DON'T OVERTUNE YOUR VOCALS!! w/ Erik Ron - URM Enhanced Fast Track preview
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- Опубліковано 14 бер 2019
- In this clip from his Vocal Production Fast Track, Erik Ron shows how he tunes vocals with Auto-tune using Jonny Craig's vocal tracks from "I'd Rather See Your Star Explode" by Slaves.
The core tenant of Erik's approach is to never, ever overtune the vocal-- to smooth out the imperfections while preserving the natural character and emotion that's key to drawing in the listener.
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Damn, this dude can sing
This is True Colors, not rather see your star explode
This guy's level of mastery and care involved with elevating a unique and amazing voice like Jonny is insane. Incredible job with the final album.
This is awesome. Hopefully this helps more people realize how in depth URM Enhanced is
:3
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dope! after this video I went & tuned some vocals in graph mode, life changing!!!!
Great video! So glad that people can now finally see how much effort is put into each part of a great song. There is no set it and forget it. Quick question for you - is autotune 8 the choice of most producers? Anyone have input on the Autotune Pro algorithm? Thanks again Erik and URM!
These videos also make me feel much better about my own singing, that the pros also need some help. Not knocking his singing at all, but it helps me not feel so disqualified
phenomenal singer
Erik: 100% straight-faced.
*Chipmunk sound stroms in*
Erik: still 100% straight-faced: "It's hilarious."
Is there a printing within the DAW function like that in Cubase?
Wow😍
Jonny Craig's vocals though. Rad.
@@pevy_sue Gives me faith for the vocals I usually work with lmao. If even someone who is regarded as one of the best in the genre can't 100% hit all notes even with multiple takes.
“Oh hi” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think that there is a key command required to do the pulldown edit that he did at 10:44. At least I can't figure out how to do it. Does anyone know what it is?
Bury the evidence 🤣
Why'd you choose AutoTune on top of other tuning software ?
It's super janky to use but I guess the algorithms are the most advanced. So I've heard at least
Listening to the chorus here and then listening to the actual track makes it seems that you got rid of all the grit. I think that is one of the things that makes his voice more unique.
1. The vocalist has a great voice
2. Erik is a master at vocal tuning
3. Love the sense of humour of producers “antares is being a little bitch” 😆
Interesting. I noticed that whenever this singer does vibrato, he does it like a guitar vibrato, going back and forth between slightly sharp and dead on, never being flat. And Eric makes it violin-like, going between slightly sharp and slightly flat, around the correct pitch. I guess both styles are equally acceptable, he just replaced one with another? Is second type of vibrato considered more desirable?
My guess is that the human ear tries to find the average between the extremes, and defines that as the perceived note. The average of dead on and sharp is slightly sharp, whereas the average of equally flat and sharp is dead on. So that one will sit in the mix slightly better. But sometimes he purposefully makes a note sharp, so that it will stand out more. The best way is the one that fits to the part.
@@djentlover makes perfect sense. But guitar vibratos don't sound sharp to my ear, neither do singer's untuned vibratos. So... it's subjective and blah blah blah, I guess
@@daleonov Yeah, we are talking very minute differences here. Something like few cents of pitch difference. This kind of modern production is super precise.
Best tuning video I've seen! Man's got skills!
Not a fan of the mic the singer used. Sounds like an SM7B.
It's Manley Reference if I remember correctly
Is there any alternative to autotune? Its really expensive ...
logic pro x has a built in option that allows you to pitch correct your vocals
Melodyne is much easier to use imo
I can also recommend Melodyne :) It's what I've used with all my singers for years now. (It is much easier. I'm pulling my hair out trying to understand how graphic mode in Autotune is used even though this video shows it haha) And if that doesn't cut it and you want more of an autotune sound, you can always grab the free plugin G-Snap and add that afterwards
Alae Cohen Logic Pro X’s tuning is definitely a good starting place, and can have good results, but it’s even more finicky than melodyne as you can’t get away with quite as much without hearing artifacts
Practise
This would have been really helpful if I knew how to use autotune lol. I have no idea what he was doing.
The problem is that this guy instantly hears what is wrong and how it should be. But we don't. And he doesn't tell us how we could.
It’s easy. Get accustomed to pitches that are sharp and flat.
Omg it totally gives you some more confidence when you realize such an amazing singer like Johnny still needs some tuning to get that perfect sound. I always feel like such a shit singer when I listen to my untuned vocals.
Britney Spears watched this video very carefully.
8:52 “u wanna make sure u don’t fuck that up” *fucks it up*
How did u miss that wobbly tail?
I got 1min in, Couldn't watch it. Am I the only one that gets irritated by people who slap the shit out of the mouse buttons? haha
This was a cool, informative video and all...but I think we all could have done without the disgustingly loud sounds of you swallowing your own mucus every 2 seconds. Your production tips are inspiring but the noises that were coming from your mouth were vomit-inducing.
I'd rather have my singer do it over again, practice before hitting the vocal booth, and get it RIGHT. Like damn man. Haha Edit, comp, time align, tune. Or.. or.. get an actual singer instead of just some guy who "can" sing lol.
*Johnny Craig is a good singer.. Definitely capable of laying down some great tracks which don't need help.
cuz that's realistic lmao ur dumb
Or you could optimize for delivery and style and fix the technicalities like tuning later.
You know what happens when you record the same part over and over again, to the point that every little pitch and timing is perfect? The singer loses perspective and his / her voice. So when you get a take that 95% there like Johnny did here, just use the available techonolgy to do the final polishing.