Mixing JONNY CRAIG vocals w/ Erik Ron - Slaves "I'd Rather See Your Star Explode"

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  • Опубліковано 13 січ 2019
  • Erik Ron talks about working with Jonny Craig for the first time on "I'd Rather See Your Star Explode" by Slaves, and goes over his signal chain and process for mixing.
    He talks about when he does and doesn't double the vocals; compression strategy using a Manley, Shadow Hills AND a Softube 1176; the stock Pro Tools de-esser; reverb with the UAD plate reverb plugin; delay with Soundtoys Echoboy and more!
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  • @KrissyKoinis
    @KrissyKoinis 5 років тому +143

    can I just have hours of Jonny's raw vocals bc I could listen to them all day

  • @CGagnon5
    @CGagnon5 5 років тому +64

    I really wish they'd release the isolated vocals for this song

  • @anon8538
    @anon8538 5 років тому +144

    If you guys don't know this about Jonny he will come into a studio with the song already prepared in his head. He is constantly singing just hanging out around his house or doing his daily routine. His mind is virtually a music box that never stops. Just as another bit, he walked into the studio years ago with Dance Gavin Dance and recorded the intro to Times New Roman. One take. Without saying anything.

    • @xer0cool
      @xer0cool 5 років тому +11

      @Ø Most great artists were on drugs.

    • @imwindex2033
      @imwindex2033 5 років тому +9

      @Ø jonny was good even on drugs no matter what but once he got clean hes a good person and an even better singer and still hasn't lost his vocal or lyrical tallent lmao

    • @theecarking
      @theecarking 5 років тому +8

      sad boi forever Was clean. Lol. Unfortunately he just relapsed.

    • @tyken144
      @tyken144 5 років тому +1

      @@theecarking ikk it kills me

    • @theecarking
      @theecarking 5 років тому +6

      Lil Scremo He made the right choice to stay home and get better tho. The band made it seem like he'd rather go do drugs than sing.

  • @MrChucklesGaming
    @MrChucklesGaming 4 роки тому +37

    Jonny Craig is the greatest vocalist of our generation.

  • @averyb5260
    @averyb5260 5 років тому +30

    Having been a Jonny fan for 10 years, and now being an engineer, It’s been a long time since I’ve seen something I loved so much

  • @sonofskaar5729
    @sonofskaar5729 5 років тому +35

    Jonny is the definition of talented

  • @jlav9594
    @jlav9594 5 років тому +13

    It's amazing that he talks about Jonny in such a way and Johnny was just kicked out of slaves today this video was made not even 2 weeks ago

    • @eldiablo4160
      @eldiablo4160 2 роки тому +1

      Because it doesn’t take away from who he is as a vocalist. That’s what’s being show cased here.

  • @hi.nixson
    @hi.nixson 4 роки тому +16

    I'm surprised Slaves didn't release just an acapella version of their latest album, it's a no brainer

  • @shawnkurtisTV
    @shawnkurtisTV 5 років тому +22

    My favorite vocalists. You're lucky man.

  • @mitch7191
    @mitch7191 5 років тому +14

    I can listen to just his vocal non stop all day😭

  • @PaintByBlunders
    @PaintByBlunders 5 років тому +8

    Absolutely love the way you mix vocals!

  • @macrountts
    @macrountts 5 років тому +2

    This is amazing. I love it, love the song, these dudes rock! Thank you for sharing!

  • @chadtv3435
    @chadtv3435 Рік тому +2

    15 minutes for that masterpiece? Hes amazing vocalist!

  • @Khristian.J
    @Khristian.J 5 років тому +6

    jonny craig and the weeknd! perfect collab

  • @mchitti
    @mchitti 4 роки тому +6

    this video is a blessing

  • @phs2Chelsea
    @phs2Chelsea 5 років тому

    Love this song so much

  • @KerriHooper
    @KerriHooper 5 років тому +4

    Looking good Eyal!

  • @echoingmelodies
    @echoingmelodies Рік тому +1

    This song is a masterpiece

  • @andrewdevall4438
    @andrewdevall4438 5 років тому +4

    Well now I know why Jonny sounds so much better live

  • @JayPlaidBatman
    @JayPlaidBatman 5 років тому +1

    Amazing

  • @Disheartened6
    @Disheartened6 5 років тому +1

    LOL! He starts to loosen up & be himself once the music hits😂 I was waiting for it👍👍👍

  • @RelentlessOhiox
    @RelentlessOhiox 5 років тому +9

    I have been playing guitar for 12 years. I know all about guitar. But this. I might as well be listening / watching Japanese. I can play the song thats about it.

  • @paul-ts6ot
    @paul-ts6ot 5 років тому +7

    "He almost de-essed himself"
    DEAD :')

    • @djentlover
      @djentlover 5 років тому +1

      If you are a good singer, you smooth out your consonants

  • @ArTiFiCiAlInSpIrAtIoNs
    @ArTiFiCiAlInSpIrAtIoNs 5 років тому +5

    Dude said "Silibance"........ Definitely pro

  • @therdai-art
    @therdai-art 3 роки тому

    Very cool take

  • @ModFather_JDM
    @ModFather_JDM 5 років тому +4

    QUESTION?
    Did he also do the same to the Lyrics in slower acoustic version?

  • @Aron97.
    @Aron97. 5 років тому

    Very interesting!

  • @3brokenstrings2536
    @3brokenstrings2536 3 роки тому

    I Love This!

  • @simonirvine9775
    @simonirvine9775 Рік тому +1

    best vocalist of all time.no question.the end.

  • @f0kxi
    @f0kxi 8 місяців тому

    The message of this song is my favorite from Jonny Craig

  • @duzikh
    @duzikh 5 років тому +5

    Nice vocalist!

  • @AmericanMe
    @AmericanMe 5 років тому +6

    Them orange slices on the back table FTW

  • @DOUGLASaraujosoares
    @DOUGLASaraujosoares 5 років тому

    What plugin do you use in first slot on signal chain?

  • @forsidekhan5405
    @forsidekhan5405 5 років тому +1

    Good.

  • @tylersyphertt3033
    @tylersyphertt3033 5 років тому

    My boi Eyal got some drip

  • @JamesBos
    @JamesBos 5 років тому +59

    If only I had a Macbook Pro I could mix this on...

    • @jessbarrett5598
      @jessbarrett5598 5 років тому

      Lmao

    • @Yusoo8
      @Yusoo8 3 роки тому

      If only you had half the voice like jonnys

  • @AudioBoi1
    @AudioBoi1 5 років тому +4

    This guy is on high from his beloving job)

  • @GMera
    @GMera 2 роки тому

    He likes the UAD Plate so much, Good that you have 11 days left on the demo! :-) Haha

  • @Potatodrumcrow
    @Potatodrumcrow 3 роки тому

    Are you selling beats?? His r&b album is fire.

  • @PapaRainYT
    @PapaRainYT 3 роки тому +1

    I literally just want the stems to this song... I wanna buy them without having a membership mannn

  • @konijnensmaak
    @konijnensmaak 5 років тому +6

    Ooh that fade out at the end though

  • @JUNKO____
    @JUNKO____ 5 років тому +20

    The P's and G's in his vocal performance sound like he's just breathing out of his nose instead of making that P/G sound.

    • @Rygar91
      @Rygar91 5 років тому +5

      Could be from the fact that these are crazy over compressed. His tiny nose breathes are the same volume as his voice cuz of this. Like when he says "keep me on the ground" he sounds like he says "hround" but the G is still there subtly.

    • @NickThomasVocals
      @NickThomasVocals 5 років тому

      Allways thought this

    • @HaydenKink
      @HaydenKink 5 років тому +4

      That's the only thing I don't like about his vocals. He can be extremely nasaly at times and also live he can be way off key.

    • @seymourass5295
      @seymourass5295 5 років тому +3

      It's his vocal technique. Him and I sing in the same register. He uses a unique style to form words around his vibrato its definitely home grown

    • @seymourass5295
      @seymourass5295 5 років тому +4

      He gets away with mispronouncing words because he rips lol

  • @joeymusic
    @joeymusic 5 років тому +10

    Can’t wait to use some JST plugins on this!

  • @octopousmusic9296
    @octopousmusic9296 5 років тому +1

    0:14 did he say date ? or day ? shit

  • @robbie5984
    @robbie5984 2 роки тому

    Simp Ladies Out Here Strong. Leeettssss 👏 Gooooooooo 👏

  • @Kreacher97
    @Kreacher97 2 роки тому

    Can anyone tell me what program he is using?

  • @emanuelstude4912
    @emanuelstude4912 3 роки тому +1

    Well yeah chances is something Jonny needs a lot of

  • @cizlol
    @cizlol 4 роки тому

    "he almost de-essed himself" god tier diss

  • @Tatt2dmoon
    @Tatt2dmoon 5 років тому +16

    Jonny was Slaves.

    • @user-yi8uq3jb6p
      @user-yi8uq3jb6p 4 роки тому +1

      Monica Weinle was in slaves*

    • @Tatt2dmoon
      @Tatt2dmoon 4 роки тому +2

      @@user-yi8uq3jb6p no, I meant what I typed.

  • @hieih8
    @hieih8 5 років тому +55

    Can you watch the video without sing along with Jonny? I bet you don't.

  • @joshuabarfieldmusic
    @joshuabarfieldmusic 5 років тому

    Meat and Cheese spread adds more glue to the whole mix...

  • @np466
    @np466 Рік тому

    Just put a sample on it, right?

  • @Char-rr1qw
    @Char-rr1qw 4 роки тому +18

    Yall are surprised at the vocal talent thats literally everywhere in pop and R&B. But you won't admit it BeCaUse ThAt IsNt ReAl MuSic.

  • @snapascrew
    @snapascrew 5 років тому +5

    What if I told you your quarter note delay was an eighth and not a quarter haha

  • @lubbenz
    @lubbenz 5 років тому +25

    hahaha gotta love the people screaming autotune who apparently don‘t know what this dude is capable of, check out some live vids.

    • @Laihoistheman
      @Laihoistheman 5 років тому +4

      ive seen plenty of live slaves videos AND i saw them live earlier this year, he was underwhelming at best.

    • @tyken144
      @tyken144 5 років тому +4

      @@Laihoistheman ???????? Dogg hahaha well like any artist he has his nights where he's off but try some live videos of him with dgd or emerosa and u have to watch alot of the slaves performances to find the absolute gems

    • @Laihoistheman
      @Laihoistheman 5 років тому +1

      @@tyken144 fair enough, it was just the like dozen videos I saw plus seeing them live.

  • @horrortoy1625
    @horrortoy1625 2 роки тому

    👀

  • @jamesgwindham
    @jamesgwindham 5 років тому +1

    Erik Ron?? He's got two first names.....

  • @daboi9172
    @daboi9172 5 років тому +4

    Real talk in a video about mixing audio why is his voice so much louder than the singer's

  • @pattygq
    @pattygq Рік тому

    9:40 That wurble shouldn't be there. When he says, "never leave". Super pronounced on the word, "leave". It's like an auto tune wurble. It's present before he begins this video. You can here this at 3:09 - 3:10.

  • @tableauxofficial7895
    @tableauxofficial7895 4 роки тому +7

    Sadly his voice isnt stronger than his addiction. How many bands kicked him out now?

  • @vicesquadpunk
    @vicesquadpunk 5 років тому +10

    Can you please explain why the lead vocal sounds autotuned? I appreciate wanting passion and intimacy but taking away the humanity from performance destroys that intent. Steve Perry had this in spades and had so much power and feel ✌🏻 x

    • @makrogiannisantonis1602
      @makrogiannisantonis1602 5 років тому +4

      Yeah,I think autotune here is too obvious, epsecially at the end of the phrases.it sounds like a fake vibrato

    • @TheConvectuoso
      @TheConvectuoso 5 років тому +13

      It’s a classic side effect on breaths when using melodyne or auto tune.
      But bear in mind almost everything you listen to these days has some of tuning.
      People only call auto tune out when they hear the side effects. And in the full mix it will never be as noticeable as in solo like it is now.
      FWIW I don’t like those side effects on the breaths

    • @dadmonster1019
      @dadmonster1019 5 років тому +2

      Antiquated opinion. Everything gets worked on.

    • @JacobraRecords
      @JacobraRecords 5 років тому

      Because it's modern pop-ish music. That's why.

    • @solarnewborn
      @solarnewborn 5 років тому +4

      I'm amazed how people are still surprised that they pitch correct vocalists in the studio when it's been an industry standard for almost 2 decades. The dude's a great singer, pitch correction or not. Tho I'd personally go for a slower, more natural retune speed.

  • @dounia4207
    @dounia4207 5 років тому

    "i like to squash vocals"
    we stan.

  • @Frozirra
    @Frozirra 2 роки тому +2

    Daily reminder that Jonny Craig did nothing wrong

    • @spontaneousbootay
      @spontaneousbootay Рік тому

      Well, he did, but he apologized and tried to make things right with everyone that he could.

  • @DeathShark00
    @DeathShark00 5 років тому +4

    ive never listened to johnny outside of DGD and his solo stuff.. first time hearing him in slaves. i love johnny but ima have to pass on looking into slaves..that autotune kills it for me.. i know hes capable of not needing it.

    • @barelyshiftin
      @barelyshiftin 5 років тому +3

      Did you ever listen to Emarosa when he was in it? They made some amazing music when he was with them. I think my favorite of him is still DGD though, and I really like DGD now with Tilian. But you definitely should give Emarosa, his solo stuff, and Slaves a chance.

    • @ohjesusitsnathan5649
      @ohjesusitsnathan5649 5 років тому +1

      I prefer his work with emarosa, his DGD stuff comes at a close 2nd for me tho

    • @ParabolH
      @ParabolH 4 роки тому

      Emarosa Relativity album is killer

    • @willkearney5716
      @willkearney5716 3 роки тому +3

      Literally every band uses autotune- its called Melodyne and is mostly used to touch up a voice, not to change pitch in a drastic way

    • @astaroth_bm
      @astaroth_bm 2 роки тому

      i dont think thats autotune my guy. its probably the jaw movement he has when doing vocal runs which is really the only time you hear what youre probably mistaking for autotune.

  • @maxawitt
    @maxawitt 5 років тому +8

    Is it just me or is this vocal wayyy too compressed. You compressed it on the way in and then 10db in pro tools? The engineer even thought the vocal sounded like it had a blanket over it. That’s because it’s squashed and has no dynamics. Reverb is for placing something in the mix not to make words in the song more audible/understandable. That’s what the an EQ boost at 2.5k is for and saturation.

  • @zarinkai2927
    @zarinkai2927 5 років тому +2

    Stopped liking Johnny the moment he left DGD.

    • @kameron2136
      @kameron2136 5 років тому +9

      Missing out on the Emarosa Release then, and Isles and Glaciers

    • @michaelll
      @michaelll 5 років тому +2

      Doesn't Emarosa have a different singer now? Jonny isn't singing for them right?

    • @mexichicana
      @mexichicana 5 років тому +1

      Michael c yeah emarosa’s singer is now Bradley Walden!

    • @michaelll
      @michaelll 5 років тому

      @@mexichicana I haven't listened to their new stuff but I knew johnny stopped singing for them awhile ago

  • @fackya2267
    @fackya2267 5 років тому +2

    i dont like this guy mixes honestly