Sounds like you need the Ox Stomp. Check out our video on the Lion paired with the Ox Stomp: ua-cam.com/video/df193B-RaQ8/v-deo.htmlsi=NuBIemoZLNJ1eD0N&t=1341
The MXR 5150 is an overdrive pedal, whereas this is a 5150 amp simulator pedal with different channel, cabinet, speaker and microphone combinations. You can't save a preset on the MXR or switch between two tones like on the ANTI, and the MXR doesn't have 3 channels and 6 cabinets to choose from and don't have control over the original 5150 amp controls like this does.
You could get EVH tones from the UA Lion. Admittedly, we were misguided and we missed the mark on this demo, as it's actually intended for more modern high-gain tones from bands like Slipknot, Arch Enemy, The Black Dahlia Murder etc. That's the tone this pedal is designed to do, which you wouldn't get out of the UA Lion.
Jack of all trades, master of none. Great product but it's very much a case of "close but not quite" if you want very specific and accurate digital representation of analog circuits.
@@Pulse2AM That was very much my experience with the Kemper. I bought mine way back right when it was first released (11 or 12 years ago?? OOF time flies) and for the longest time, EVERYONE'S profiles were absolute trash, even most of the factory ones. It forced me to really up my recording game and I ended up enlisting the help of Andy Jackson of Hot Rod Circuit who ran a recording studio at the time and we dialed in a few things and I ended up with some really good (in my opinion) kemper profiles of my Splawn. Now that the Kemper is a really mature product, there are a lot of really great sounding profiles. The tone x benefited from all the bedroom rockers having over a decades worth of recording tech and DAW's coming down in price and being easier to use 😅
@@FastRedPonyCar I'm using ToneX inside Amplitube 5, I can mix and match plus use all of Amplitubes effects so I made some really good patches. I wish the ToneX pedal supported Amplitube rigs, that would be sweet. Kemper is too expensive for me but their new pedal is not out of reach.
It can be used with an actual amp, but the primary design of this product is to replace your amp. If you want to run it into an amp, you can use the 4-cable method (run it into your FX loop to avoid doubling up on the preamp) and turn off any cab simulation. ANY modern product with DSP could be scoffed at as a "computer toy" if one was cynical enough.
@@mikemorrisonmusic I sold a 1992 combo 5150 round about 15/20 hours to be on the safetest saying Just like brand new $350.00 bucks but I only paid round about $900.00 maybe a little more new.
Yeah, either I don't have an ear for high gain stuff, or it might be more obvious in person how different the settings and cab selections make the sound
Thanks, what a great job of covering all of the details of this product.
Thanks James, thanks for watching!
SOUNDS AWESOME THANK YOU JOHN! I AM GETTING THIS!
Hell Ya! Go John! Fantastic job and sounds great! Good work on UA to address the high gain need from them!
Great video!
I like andrè, watched his enigmatic review too. Give the man a raise
Definitely has some great tones. The price however puts it in the range of used Peavey tube amps.
Yeeees!!!
Wow MORE GEAR TO SELL ? Thanks for showing me shrill !
😮 nice
Uau 😮👏🏻
I would love to step on it, but I’m afraid this pedal will end up on the shelf with my other distortion pedals.
Doesn't sound like this pedal is for you then, and that's ok!
I wanted these cabinets in Lion 🔥😁
Sounds like you need the Ox Stomp. Check out our video on the Lion paired with the Ox Stomp: ua-cam.com/video/df193B-RaQ8/v-deo.htmlsi=NuBIemoZLNJ1eD0N&t=1341
So would this just blow the socks off the EVH overdrive pedal or ?
I think my HX stomp can do all that with some tweaking.
How is this different from the 5150 overdrive pedal?
The MXR 5150 is an overdrive pedal, whereas this is a 5150 amp simulator pedal with different channel, cabinet, speaker and microphone combinations. You can't save a preset on the MXR or switch between two tones like on the ANTI, and the MXR doesn't have 3 channels and 6 cabinets to choose from and don't have control over the original 5150 amp controls like this does.
Uhh you should be using the UA lion with the brown sound setting for EVH sounds
You could get EVH tones from the UA Lion. Admittedly, we were misguided and we missed the mark on this demo, as it's actually intended for more modern high-gain tones from bands like Slipknot, Arch Enemy, The Black Dahlia Murder etc. That's the tone this pedal is designed to do, which you wouldn't get out of the UA Lion.
Tonex all the way!
Jack of all trades, master of none. Great product but it's very much a case of "close but not quite" if you want very specific and accurate digital representation of analog circuits.
@@FastRedPonyCar With ToneX it depends a lot on the person that did the capture of the amp, there are some great ones and many not so great.
@@Pulse2AM That was very much my experience with the Kemper. I bought mine way back right when it was first released (11 or 12 years ago?? OOF time flies) and for the longest time, EVERYONE'S profiles were absolute trash, even most of the factory ones. It forced me to really up my recording game and I ended up enlisting the help of Andy Jackson of Hot Rod Circuit who ran a recording studio at the time and we dialed in a few things and I ended up with some really good (in my opinion) kemper profiles of my Splawn.
Now that the Kemper is a really mature product, there are a lot of really great sounding profiles.
The tone x benefited from all the bedroom rockers having over a decades worth of recording tech and DAW's coming down in price and being easier to use 😅
@@FastRedPonyCar I'm using ToneX inside Amplitube 5, I can mix and match plus use all of Amplitubes effects so I made some really good patches. I wish the ToneX pedal supported Amplitube rigs, that would be sweet. Kemper is too expensive for me but their new pedal is not out of reach.
$399? You can get the real thing in the 5150 or the 6505 mini head for around that price
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So this can't be used with an actual amp?
Why would I pay $400 dollars for a computer toy
It can be used with an actual amp, but the primary design of this product is to replace your amp. If you want to run it into an amp, you can use the 4-cable method (run it into your FX loop to avoid doubling up on the preamp) and turn off any cab simulation. ANY modern product with DSP could be scoffed at as a "computer toy" if one was cynical enough.
a pedal with the price of an amp ... no thank you, you can keep it
currency and resource mismanagement has consequences
If you can get a 5150 for $399, go for it.
@@mikemorrisonmusic
I sold a 1992 combo 5150 round about 15/20 hours to be on the safetest saying
Just like brand new
$350.00 bucks but I only paid round about $900.00 maybe a little more new.
Everything sound same
Yeah, either I don't have an ear for high gain stuff, or it might be more obvious in person how different the settings and cab selections make the sound
Just like a real 5150. Accuracy with warts and all is very much the UAFX ethos when designing these amp in a box pedals.
They sound pretty close to one another but there is a slight difference
These kinds of settings often change the feeling of playing. Guitar response and the vibe in the room. Not big differences it seems though
No offence but what sells all these units .are good players. Not 5 year old basic power chords. I mean really think about it.