KOREKIYO SHINGUJI: Character Analysis
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Finally another analysis video! Sorry for the delay on these recently. If any of you guys are curious, Monika from DDLC, was the character I started a video for but ended up scrapping after a bit. Just wasn’t sure I could bring anything new about the character that hasn’t already been said. I do eventually want to try doing a character outside of DR, but for the next few ones I think I’ll stay DR focused. Let me know who you’d like a video of next!
Also just a disclaimer, I don’t personally see anything wrong with creating tulpas as long as it helps the person that made it. Tbh it’s a pretty interesting concept. Just because Korekiyo’s tulpa was an unhealthy influence on him, doesn’t necessarily mean I think all of them are bad. Wanted to mention that in the video, but there was no good place I felt to bring it up without disrupting the flow of the analysis. Anyways, hope you guys enjoy!
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They really did him dirty. They could have had a character arc of him coming to terms with the fact that he was abused, that his sister took advantage of him. Theres no way what they did was consensual, he would have had to have been very young.
Anyway, they did my boy dirty.
I agree SO MUCH like... How young was he ? The ( Triggering ) art showing him and his sister naked must be wrong, he couldnt be that "Adult" do we know their ages in reality ? ( Before his sister dies and he travels the world and start killing )
Élise Belleville I think they are all teens or young adults and it seems he was traveling for years and was in this type of relationship with his sister for awhile before she died so it’s likely it could have started around the age of ten or younger
@@Elisebelleville i've read that the v3 characters are all 15-16. we def would've been too young.
they could have just made it that he only killed tenko and someone else killed angie,, i feel like that would have been a better sorta ending
@@yingyingzz I agree ! And it would have been soooo interessting like : Would a murderer be a survivor ? How would the other react to having a certified killer among them, that just happens to be still alive ? How would they treat him ? How would Kork feel ? Would he realize his sister thing is wrong ? Would someone kill him out of anger/disgust ? It could have been SO INTERESSTING
so many people hate him and think he’s disgusting but personally, i feel bad for him. he’s such an interesting and charming character, and honestly the incest relationship he had with his sister didn’t so much sound as just a weird relationship as it did an abusive/manipulative one that really messed him up. i wish he would’ve been a survivor somehow and ended up traveling with shuichi like he talked about in the free time events, even though the world kinda went to shit pfft.
a year late but i agree. also if ppl think he's disgusting because of the insest thing which was very obviously abuse, then they're victim blaming. period
I love you....i love you so much finally someone who feels like me! I am crying tears of happiness!
I agree. I hate incest, but I can't help but think korekiyo has stockholm syndrome. "Stockholm syndrome is a psychological condition that occurs when a victim of abuse identifies and attaches, or bonds, positively with their abuser. This syndrome was originally observed when hostages who were kidnapped not only bonded with their kidnappers, but also fell in love with them." As said by Google. His obsession with his sister and that she was very manipulative, it matches with why he loves her so much. I'd like to see where he realizes what his sister did to him was wrong, but I like him even when he wanna commits Alabama with her. It actually makes people feel bad for him despite his love for her
When I first saw him I was like “stick bug man”
I'm not that big on him, but it's not because of the incest, or anything to do with Chapter 3, really. He just never really "clicked" for me, which is weird, because he seems like, in theory, a character I would like a lot. Cool design, tragic backstory, interesting talent, etc. But no, I just never really warmed up to him. Looking back, it probably has to do with how I experienced the game; I watched it through Lucahjin's LP, and her simping for him got old in a hurry.
Y'know, for the "Ultimate" Anthropologist, he seems to have forgotten the greatest history lesson: those who don't know their history *are doomed to repeat it.*
Grandark Zephyrum now this is a good comment 👌
You need more likes dude that's nice
But he doesn't *know* that he doesn't know his own history, because his history was made-up and brainwashed into him. Which means he can't know his *real* history because it's been wiped and replaced with the fake history, which means...I don't even know anymore. My brain hurts.
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i;m disappointed with kodaka's decision to put shinguuji as the one who responsible for both murders despite making it the first application of the intriguing new rules where the second killer can't be voted guilty. shinguuji could be an interesting survivor and influences other characters heavily; i mean, they live with their friend's killer.
hoshi i know right. it's a bit disappointing. at least the story would've been more interesting.
I also wanted him to be Tenko's killer but also a survivor. It would have been really interesting to have a "confirmed" killer surviving until the end. -Instead of Maki-
Actually, if a killer whose motive is strongly based on their false memories like Toujou and Shinguuji survive till chapter 6, they would went crazy after learning that they murder their friends for nothing. I want to see Toujou crying and redeem herself for murdering my innocent baby.
I don’t know how to react to Ryoma’s dead body wanting Korekiyo to be a survivor.
Tbh, it would've been great if tenko actually killed Angie, and then korekiyo killed her, but then after the class trial monokuma, instead of taking back the book, uses it to bring back Tenko, (who gets executed) which leaves Korekiyo speechless and heartbroken as he realizes that he could've brought back his sister instead of bringing people to her. That would've been a very interesting character arc! And if he did survive I felt like he would have a breakdown, but then come to terms with it, seeing as how he didn't murder anybody (other than Tenko).
On the note of what you were saying about his uniform not "suiting" him, and her controlling nature... I think those go hand-in-hand. Notice that his uniform looks much like a soldier's would under a totalitarian regime - and she designed it personally to look that way, because she thought that *that* would suit him. I'm pretty sure that that implies she had complete and utter authoritarian control over him and his actions, and knew it.
@@vee-h9g6h yeah please
@@vee-h9g6h The flaw in your logic is that Korekiyo still looks good in it. But fr though, if what WeeblyNewz said was true then there's a chance that she personally wanted to wear something like that as an anthropologist but couldn't because of her ilness. But I think your theory does have a possibility of being true as well
But wasn't that uniform was given to him by the Monokubs ? I mean , all 16 students were given the Ultimate's uniform by them
Honestly, part of me always felt Korekiyo repeatedly saying “apologize” was him more or less imitating his sister? Like, consider how controlling and manipulative she was, it seems likely that if he ever did something wrong in her eyes, she’d yell at him to apologize until he eventually did. I’d definitely go into more detail regarding all my ideas regarding Korekiyo’s backstory BUT I don’t want to clog things up more than I already did. Thank you for making this video though! He’s like my all time danganronpa fav, so I appreciate this a lot!
I’m crying how do I unread this
Well, when he says the Apologize lines he's in his "sister" personality after all.
Tom This makes a lot of sense
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Ohmagawd. He is like the kind of opposite but the exact same as Mikan. Let me give you a diagram.
Similarities: Long and dark choppy hair, committed double murder, freaked out during the class trial and was repeating the same word over and over, had a passion related to their tragic past and family influence
Differences: Kiyo kept saying "Apologize" but Mikan kept saying "Forgive me", Mikan was shy and timid but I don't think threatening to tear out someone's nerves just because they touched some artifact would be considered shy and timid, Mikan nursed people to health but Kiyo killed them.
There's more but im lazy
My boy Korekiyo had great potential, too bad they did him dirty.
Yeah, I can agree tbh
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Tbh I want a Danganronpa V3 where korekiyo survives (killing Tenko but not Angie) and how the other survivors deal with that. And how he comes to terms that he was indeed manipulated by his sister and that he didn’t want to kill Tenko but thought that his sister would get mad if he didn’t send her 100 friends. It would be more interesting for him to survive then miki
@@mcdonalds437 I kinda agree, I would just like him to make it pass chapter 3. Maybe Miu killed Angie and Kiyo was the chapter 4 victim. Maybe he survives along with Himiko and learns the truth about their situation, That would break him. Anyways I really just wished after the reveal he made it a little further into the story so we could learn a bit more about him and his sister’s relationship. But Danganronpa is shitty at writing abuse victims so he’s only seen as the creepy seesaw man
@@itzrainy_outside4450 I 100% agree! Honestly they wrote him so wrong, but he luckily he dose have some redeeming qualities
I feel that kiyo' s relationship with his sister was heavily abusive. She knew she didn't have much time left and tried to use him to keep on living. He mistook their relationship as loving, as he had never experienced anything else. I bet he feels that he must continue to appease her, even after her death in order to keep her happy, as a personal safety precaution. He could never quite free himself from her, and never realized he wanted to.
i know it’s two years late but i agree with that. i gathered that from his free time events when he talks about his sister and the third trial in general. he had no chance to think about if the relationship was okay. anyways, the tulpa that he created was probably based on his sister, and she seemed controlling and passive aggressive. kiyo followed all of her demands in the trial with no hesitation, and it only made me feel even more bad. and when he’s arguing about whether he killed angie or not, she basically just tells him to give up and admit it. and he hesitates one time, but continues to follow her directions.
also, the entire apologize thing in general. if i recall correctly, the tulpa of his sister said to apologize first, and then kiyo himself started to do the same thing. it may be because kiyo was imitating his sister in the first place for a reason. but yeah, i don’t know but you can admit there is a possibility.
idkkk if you remember, but when he kept saying apologize, apologize is likely to be his trigger word that his sister said to him for not loving her enough
@@totaIIymortal That’s an interesting theory! I believe (myself) that korekiyo believed that he had to have a relationship with his sister , just like he ‘had’ to become an anthropologist for his sister, because she was ill. I believe she used to complain how much she suffered making younger korekiyo believe he needed to whatever she said to make her happy
culture husband would have been better but dr was like "hey incest"
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If he wasn’t given that trait, then he would’ve been perfect.
They couldn’t have a perfect character, now could they?
@@decipherthecipher3065 exactly man, he's highly rated in Alabama standards
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¿ d y s p h o r i i ? Or in Tsumugi standards
A lot of people find Korekiyo creepy but I found him interesting from the beginning
when I first played V3 I spent my entire chapter 3 doing his free time events because I found his stories interesting, and also loved his theme
many people are put off because of the incest thing but to me it wasn't really surprising and I think it fits his folklore theme
in Japanese folklore you can find a lot of incest and a lot of...weird sexual stuff, so giving him that didn't seem odd to me at all
Also I agree with you, I think his sister was very controlling of him and just used him
My favorite character is korekiyo so I agree with you.
@201 BK You should read up on the shinto creation myth. Japan is honestly pretty liberal about talking about sex.
While his case left me kind of disgusted by him honestly,(I just think he never regained any sanity after his sister died so much as he was able to adapt and channel it,) I did the exact same thing as you with the free time events. It was so interesting! And I had always found him weird, but he was also kind of fascinating to me.
I’m also in the crowd where I found interesting because based on what happens during the third trial he reminds a lot of Norman Bates from Psycho and much like Norman Korekiyo was a character that kept me guessing and guessing.
Laura Edogawa KOREKIYO IS A SMOL ANTHROPOLOGY BOI AND I LOVE HIM
It's unfortunate, I really like Korekiyo as he's my favorite character in DR but they really did him dirty with his incest subplot.
Dani Doodlez what’s worse is that it feels like he was killed only to have Himiko get character development, they brought up the two killer rule and didn’t even use it. It would’ve been interesting to see a killer survive a trial and see how the others react to this, but no all we get is a double homicide like usual >:(
He was abused. It helped add to his character. When his sister began abusing him he had to be within the 11-12 range. His sister ABUSED him using manipulation.
Why? The incest thing makes his character more interesting. It's not as if we had any other characters like that before, IIRC.
what’s wrong with incest?
@@magentamappinganimation9532 It's Nasty bro wym, I hope you're kidding
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Don't forget about straw rope
What about salty
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MC Neko-chan welp. *Leaves*
Omg he needs a spinoff simply to justify making that intro xD
MC Neko-chan That pretty much sum up Korekiyo pretty well.
SISTER!
Aside from sweet, which one is supposed to be Kork
Honestly, I believe firmly that his sister instigated the relationship. He may be creepy, but I don't think Korekiyo would even *have* the mental capacity to put his sister on a romantic pedestal.
Which then unfortunately makes his execution all the more heart wrenching since the person who abused and stripped away his being gets their way and remains peaceful as a spirit.
It's entirely like an abuser to do that.
I want to mention that Korekiyo has the mask even before the implanted memories so it makes you wonder how much of the Korekiyo we know is the same as the original.
AnonEars maybe he was just sick that day? 😂
It's not the same mask, though. It's just a plain black medical-type mask. Wonder why Tsumugi/Team DR changed it to the bondage gimp mask ...besides, you know..."let's make him kinky."
Wobby 1 maybe he was still kinky pregame 😏😏
The way he’s described, pregame wise, in one of the official character descriptor thingies, he’s described as “the type of person who seems popular.” And honestly, seeing as tsumugi probably wrote at least the base character and plot of DRV3, it’s likely he got into dangan to get away from his sister, or his sister’s influence. Seeing as tsumugi’s love hotel was about Incest, she might have projected that onto him. He might’ve worn the mask to make himself distinctive. From his sister, I mean, considering how they look alike. It’s also possible he had a minor version of the illness sister shinguuji had, seeing as it’s very possible to be hereditary.
I personally felt like they missed an opportunity to do more with Korekiyo. Him being batshit was pretty damn predictable, and I had a feeling he had something going on with his sister under his mask a bit after he even mentioned her existence. He's one of my favorite character designs from V3, and WAS one of my top characters until his big plot twist. Idk, it just felt like they could have done something a bit more unique with him.
I think it would've been great if he got away with murdering Tenko because of Monokuma's extra rule because seeing how the group would react would've been great. Himiko is one of my favorite characters in the game but I think she would've been a great 3rd case culprit, like she murdered Angie for whatever reason and Kiyo did everything afterwards in an attempt to get everyone executed
I thought the same thing! Except I would have had Angie's death be a suicide. They'd all say that since there was no blackened for Angie, that Kiyo should be killed for Tenko's murder. However, Monokuma considers suicide murder, since you're taking the most important life- your own. So two of their friends would be dead, one of their classmates a murderer, and nobody gets punished for any of it. It would have made the dynamics so much more interesting
My only problem with that is that it’s unlikely that they’d all demand he be killed. They’d hate him forever but there hasn’t been a time where anybody was actually wanting the execution that I can think of
Chapter 3 had too much missed potential (Bringing back a dead classmate, a killer getting away with the second murder, the student council...)
smh they used korekiyo for himiko's development. meh even if himiko's developed i do still hate her. korekiyo is one of my favorite characters so i was so sad that he was used just for himiko's development that i don't really care.
i agree, i feel like korekiyos sister manipulated him more than he was "in love" with her. he looked up to her, and when she started incestuous relationship, korekiyo mistook his admiration for romantic love before her death. it can happen often, although usually in homosexual people who get into relationships with the opposite gender and believe they are in love because they've suppressed their sexuality and mistake it for love
when he talks about his sister to rantaro in utdp, he seems to refer to her in the way you'd love a sibling, not the way you'd love a lover.
@@dingdongdropdead interesting....
Oh so he’s extremely confused-
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people see the word incest and forget that most cases are cases of pedophilia and/or sexual abuse. Obviously there are cases where it is consensual from both parties (shudder). There is a reason why there is an incest hotline one can call.
Ok, so I legit read a story similar to this on Reddit. The person who told the story used to work in a psych ward and had a patient who dressed up as his sister and lived his life through her after witnessing her being brutally murdered. He wore these pictures of little girls around his neck, which were his sister's "friends". Not the same circumstances, but thinking back on it, I was all "whoa, this is like Korekiyo's story". Anyway, your theory on why Korekiyo's sister did what she did seems plausible, though I would also add there had to have been some family history of severe mental illness and/or abuse for these things to happen. I'm pretty sure Korekiyo was abused by his sister in more than one way, and it's even stated on the wiki.
I REALLY appreciate this analysis. I hate how Kodaka decided to kill him off like that, and now people just dismiss him as some creepy sisterfucker who kills girls. Yes, he is indeed that, but he's not the only creepy murderous fiend in the series. I find him to be a very intriguing, well-written, unique character. They could have done so much better with him. :(
Sauce?
@@thymebutter2556 source * xd
Sorry I had to ' Sauce' was making me crack up lol
@@scarlett8048 lol a lot of people actually use "sauce" these days as a joke xd
@@jessmadnessreturns oh, oops I didn't know haha xd
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I still don't know why the seesaw thing even became a meme especially since it's only mentioned at ONE point in the trial. Kiyo's main kink are bondage and rope yet somehow that never became his associated meme.
Seesaw became a meme, because Kiyo had almost perfect murder after Angie death (Only reason to suspect him was katana from his lab. Rest of the evidence could point to many people, and the main suspects in this case still probably would be Tenko, who had a grudge against Angie, and Himiko, who was guarding Angie's lab) By killing Tenko with his trick, he literally made his crime solvable, because now it wa possible to connect blood under the floorboard to him.
Also, the fact that Kiyo's only reason for killing Tenko was "because I wanted to use seesaw" definetly had some influence on creation of this meme.
I like this was supposed to be a super serious video but all of the comments are "SEESAW"
*It shows 100% damage on tenko!*
1) The Wiki is wrong. She's not a tulpa; she's an alter. A tulpa is something you choose to create, an "imaginary friend," so to speak, while an alter is the result of a break with reality, usually in response to trauma. Kiyo's backstory is that he was bound and whipped nearly to death in a village he visited, and that NDE resulted in a psychotic break. (Obviously, he doesn't call it that - he calls it someone "taken from me by death" being returned to him.)
2) Considering that the Sister we see when Kiyo's alter comes out is colored by his obsessive adoration of her (as mother figure/best friend/love of his life) and she *still* comes across as a cold, manipulative bitch even in Kiyovision, I can't quite imagine what a high-stepping, dyed-in-the-wool c-word she must have been (or was supposed to have been) in "real life." The mind, it boggles.
The way the two interact with each other would suggest she's a tulpa, though. Alters often times don't share memories with one another, but a tulpa does typically have all of the memories and knowledge their host does, and the lack of confusion Sister has when speaking to Korekiyo about what's happening around them implies that she has access to his memories.
Korekiyo can’t have an alter bc it would have to form when he was super young before he developed his own personality so it has to be a tulpa
If I may put in my two cents into the whole incest thing... I remember Kiyo's Love Hotel scene showed him not wanting a romantic relationship with anyone other than his sister, but is perfectly okay with sleeping around with other people he feels comfortable with. This might say something about exactly how sexual the relationship with his sister was. Also, I felt that Kiyo might have been projecting the loneliness he was feeling after his sister's death onto his tulpa, among other small things. Could explain why the ghost girl in his execution wanted revenge.
Anyway, if you are still taking requests, I would like to see an analysis of Rantaro Amami please.
Yeah, the Love Hotel scene is pretty interesting to analyse his personal feelings and desires! He says he won't be able to love Saihara, but he's fine with having sex with him. It makes sense, as his mind is obsessed with his dead sister more than anything else, but he doesn't seem to fantasise about her sexually, as the hotel scenes are representations of a character's "ideal". I thought it's important that she's not present there in any way. Other characters are clearly dreaming of someone who is not Saihara, so I feel like I can say he does consider her his true love, but his physical attraction is reserved for other people. In other moments, Korekiyo clearly makes a difference between love and lust, so...
I shall break this seriousness.
*man, tho what if he loves his seesaw more..,,.... and WaiT- WHAT IF HIS SISTER IS A SEESAW... O_O*
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They made it: ua-cam.com/video/k7tU6clCUXA/v-deo.html
Korekiyo was hands down my favorite character from danganronpa as a whole, 30% because his english voice was todd haberkorn but the other 70% was because his character was so intriguing to me, albeit i have had a soft spot for anthropology for most of my life, cultures are amazing, jeez, i think korekiyo may have influenced me a bit.
The father of the greatest meme of the franchise.
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his thirst for the S E E S A W was too much to just stop after Angie. (Serious answer: he said himself he didn't want to waste the trick he prepared so carefully. Yet, ironically, the locked room by itself wouldn't have incriminated him directly... he's a smart guy but this time he fucked up immensely)
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I live kiyo so much and people treat him like hes some "InSectT alAmBama mAn" and completely ignore his trauma! The apologize scene really shows how controlling she was same with the new outfit
The way these opinions seesaw back and forth... IT IS TRULY BEAUTIFUL.
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Korekiyo is one of my favorite characters in v3. His motives for killing was, well, disturbing, and I really thought his sister really possesed him until you mentioned something called a tulpa. I have never known about such a thing, and made me understand how the hell his sister is like, inside of his body. His free time events were my favorites, which led me to like him, since I always had an interest in anthropology. As much as I hate that inscest thing, I found him as one of the interesting characters in v3.
And also his sister is hot.
I love Korekiyo. He's definitely one of my favourite charactersand probably has my favourite design in all of Danganronpa.
Seesaw Shingucci gets an analysis! Yesss! I am so disturbed and intrigued by Kiyo, but I always loved his character. I also really like his talent; it's very cool and interesting! Though he is a pretty bad person, I feel a little sympathy for him because his loss of his sister is pretty sad. It's easy to overlook Kiyo's feelings on the matter. Of course, this does not justify his woman-killings, but it does shine some light on his character. Thank you for another great analysis!
I agree tbh. I originally loved Kiyo because of his talent, and I found the way he spoke cool. At first, I found Kiyo to be a creepy character that I wanted to stay away from but come the beginning of chapter 3, I started liking him a lot more. I was sad in the 3rd trial, but I became indifferent towards him. I still like him regardless, and I can sympathize with him somewhat.
I don’t forgive his actions, but I see his whole “incest” thing as something Team Danganronpa did. Think about it.
Their personalities are fake, right? Of course, someone must have thought to place every single unlikeable trait onto Korekiyo to purposefully make him one of the “worst” characters in the game.
SweetDreamTreat Big agree! I don't really forgive what he did, however, we do have to remember a lot of him, and everyone else, was fabricated by Team Danganronpa during their development of interesting characters. :)
Claire Bennett - Sylvie-chan I love Korekiyo too
so are we not going to talk about 'seesaw shingucci' as his name at all? no?
I like Korekiyo. There's no way of changing my mind
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маленький шингуджик I am nobody’s.
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U know if he was real he would kill u and sucrfice u to reserect his sister .. fuck him
@@stellamidnight7331 I'm a dude he wouldn't do shit
This video represents my love/hatred of DRV3:
Interesting amount of depth for characters which they don't amount to anything, in game. It's cool and neat when you realise that a character has extra depth to them but alot of the time it doesn't change what you know or how you would treat them. You can create a character with a specialised references in their: name, birthday, hair style, poses, language, dialect, music taste, backstory and whether they squeeze toothpaste from the middle or the end, and it will still be all for nought if you have it on wasted chapters - mainly something like chapters 3 and 4.
Hmmmm you look like a certain attorney.....
@@LadyVerbenaceae Athena Cykes!
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@@LadyVerbenaceae Never thought I'd see Ace Attorney fans here. Glad the fandom is still alive.
@@hellothere-dv5me I must agree
The memelord himself
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This comment section is full of kiyos and that gives me a despair????
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When you see all the characters for the first time in the gym, the image showing everyone in the past 2 games their reactions and body position reflect how they usually act, so compare it to v3's before the ultimate wardrobe their reactions and body positions could represent their true selves before they became the ultimate students, like kirumi could be a introvert and shy, possibly clumsy causing her to want to be a maid who is skilled at many things in the first place, and gonta not actually a gentleman and possibly wanted to be a entomologist to be smart, implying he's not good at school and the reason his character speaks in third person and doesn't speak at all before the wardrobe could mean he doesn't speak out much, possibly cause he sounds dumb and didn't want that to show it.
I think those who win the killing game get to keep their knowledge of their ultimate title when they go back to the real world, why they chose titles like a astronaut (fame), a entomologist (knowledge), and being a maid (skills) is so when they win they'll keep that title, which explains why kaito said that he'll have fame and fortune when he wins, which supports that idea, also when they said in the 6th trial that they can't go back to who they originally we're also supports that, showing that they keep their memories about their title when they go back to the real world
There's an important thing to note.
Before Kaede gets dressed up in her Ultimate outfit, she mentions that she has a skill she devotes time to (but she wouldn't call it a Talent).
I infer from this that this skill was playing piano.
Tsumugi even states that the talents they got suited them to a certain extent.
So to me it seems like the V3 kids got the talents they did because they already had some degree of interest in those talents in the first place.
Which means that TeamDR must've done some research into these kids' lives in order to decide what talents would best fit them.
K4GZL I would see that, with they did it to a certain extent like kaede, but for some they must be went into the game to learn the talent since it looks like they keep the talent when they win the game, with kaito saying he'll get fame and fortune after winning, like what astronauts get, and when they said in trial 6 saying that they can't go back to their natural self, implying they keep their talent and memories so they'll be able to do that talent, since we don't see the others reactions we can only assume, I myself think only kaede did it cause she wanted to make her hobby of piano a skill but wanted the easy way out, which I can see many do by entering the game so they can just get the talent so they can be successful and deal problems in the real world like learn how to protect themselves from bully's (akido), be able to talented and be important (maid), and hopefully get a spine and lead others (supreme leader) etc...
Assuming that the kids did indeed willingly sign up to be part of the killing game and the audition videos aren't fake, then yeah.
But yeah, I do kinda believe that the winners of the killing games basically get to go back into the outside world as their new selves.
K4GZL yeah, many probably signed up for the talent, or just be in a killing game and let loose, or just be famous by being in a world wide loved series, so it can be many reasons but summed down too they'll get their talent and be famous for being a talented person who was able to win a killing game while being their favorite character who survived and be their hope that anyone could be a ultimate
I would sign up to do it myself if possible
Austin Duffy I like your interpretation!! :D
i hate how people just boil kiyo down to “sweet home alabama” when he was literally groomed and manipulated by his sister- the trauma jokes aren’t funny, guys. 😁
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK QUEEN
@@3879-x4g OH SHIT
"boil kiyo down" you did not just 💀
like the mfs that do it don’t make fun of people like kotoko’s trauma do they istg
*KEKEKEKEKEKEKE*
TeacupOfWisdom do you love me?
kek
Nice
*KEHEHEHEHEHEHE**
Kekekekeke
The main reason Kiyo really intrigued me after I first saw him was his character design.
During my early to late teens I was a huge sucker for everything Visual Kei. I still love the aesthetic of it. I might also have a old-school military uniform kink lmao. Those are or at least used to be a somewhat common style element of VK as well.
HUMANITY IS BEAUTIFUL!~ *INTENSIFIES*
As a Danganronpa fan and Tulpa Enthusiast, I am really glad you gave more exposure to Tulpas by even just mentioning the name. It's amazing to see how deep you went into analyzing the character and how you managed to find a semi-niche internet practice that does deserve more scientific attention. From my experience, Tulpas do exhibit sentient behaviors so I am inclined to believe that is so, but of course, more research needs to be done.
Tulpa creators make tulpas voluntarily, not something akin to DID. Loneliness is the main reason why someone would make one, but again it's a choice any person experiencing that or not can make. The closest thing I can compare to something that actually happens in Tulpa creation is the switches from the Sister personality to Koreyiko. "Switching" is what the community calls it. While it is rare that a Tulpa can control the body without the host's permission, something of that nature in the trial scenes I haven't seen or heard of.
I personally think Koreyiko has DID instead, though from his story he doesn't seem to have any trauma which makes it less likely from a medical standpoint. Though, I don't think the creators knew what tulpas were in the creation, and done something similar to Toko's DID situation.
Again, thank you for being so rational and kind towards the phenomenon, it really does need more research done. It's very nice to see someone, not bashing or shedding doubt on something that could actually benefit neurology, psychology, and mental health. You're an amazing youtube, thank you!
*Thank. You.* The Sister personality is an alter, not a tulpa. I, too, "personally think Korekiyo has DID instead," and he does actually have trauma in his backstory to explain it: he tells Shuichi in his last FTE that he was "welcomed" into one particular village by being tied up so tightly he nearly passed out and whipped so hard he nearly died. This NDE resulted in a psychotic break and the personality split (which Kiyo, being Kiyo, called being reunited with "someone taken from me by death.")
Agreed! Just as Wobby 1 said, there definitely was some trauma that very much could have led to the personality split. I personally believe the trauma occurred when he was in the relationship with his sister, because his sister definitely seemed abusive to me. My theory is basically what Weeby News said, which definitely implies abuse. She used him, took advantage of him, because he was pretty vulnerable. I feel like the emergence of the alter took place once he had that near death experience, but the split happened much earlier.
It just seems more plausible to me that this is DID because of the traumas he experienced. I also saw an interview where someone with DID believed they were possessed at first until they discovered the term. Kiyo believes he's possessed, as well. There's just so much that makes me thinks it's more DID rather than an actual tulpa. Nice to hear some input from a researcher though!
I personally don’t think it was DID as he was able to talk to his sister back and forth, vice versa. Kiyo was also completely conscious and aware of what was happening every time his sister came out.
@@sugarysweet6695 Going off of what I know of how tulpa systems work, I agree with this. It's really odd because his backstory would imply that it's DID, but the way he and Sister interact with each other is functionally more like how a tulpa interacts with their host.
@@wobby1268 ohg my god this is SO late but
if Kiyo "talks to" his sister and even has a recollection of what she says during the trial he may not have dissociative amnesia, which is what DID victims have. Instead, he'd have OSDD1b; a variant of DID without dissociative amnesia
this is just speculation. assuming he also has a headspace, he could also be hearing the voice from there, but based off of his interactions alone its safe to assume.. yeah
His sister lived through him so hard when she was alive that he didn't know how to live by himself when she died and took that idea to a whole new level in his grief.
First off, amazing job as always. Second, as a human development major, I believe that after that civilization he ran into tortured him (as he mentions they tied him up and kept him there for three months) he developed a need for comfort, and that's where his sisters 'ghost', came in. In a sense, it was a manifestation to keep himself going and sane.
@Peko With a bat
Why the quotes?
*Sister Intensifies*
Joseph Joestar then gets startled by the intense sistering and uses the Joestar secret technique: running away!
Even Speedwagon is afraid!
Come on, apologize. Apologize, apologize!
Korekiyo, I’m not feeling good (fades away)
Joseph Joestar wrong franchise old man, go back to being senile
Great analysis~
Even though the Sister personality was pretty pushy, i didn't give her that much thought during the game but now looking back on it, that definitely makes sense. Especially because he was pretty much trying to replicate his Sister's attitude in the trial, we can assume she was like that when she was still alive.
I don't think their relationship was sexual though. I feel like Korekiyo was obsessed with her maybe to the point of convincing himself they were in a relationship. The scene where he talked about her in the trial gave me the impression that this 'closeness' wasn't meant to be physical. And i could see her sister using this obsession to manipulate him just like Weeby said in the video.
I really liked the focus on the Sister's influence in the analysis as well as the comparison between Korekiyo, Angie and Tenko in terms of dealing with grief. Keep it up!
MeowYouToo I completely agree with you, it's rare to see another person who doesn't think these two were actually in a sexual relationship! He's my favorite character and I feel like people forget he's extremely mentally unstable, which explains a lot of the shit he does and believes. In general, no matter if you see Sister as someone who abused him or not, I think we should all agree he's not reliable enough to use his statements as absolute truth 😂 this is also the main theme of V3, what is truth and what is a lie? How do lies affect our perception of facts?
I feel so sorry for Korekiyo. :( He is my favourite character in v3, one of my highest kins and I relate to some of his trauma. :(
Same :((
I feel bad for him,he is my favourite character. They should of gave him more of an arc.
I've seen a lot of people be very skeptical of the "Korekiyo's Sister is abusive" theory. However, I definitely agree with what is said in this video. It's obvious that she pushed the Anthropology talent onto Kiyo, and was extremely controlling, especially her forcing him to apologize. His heavy dependence on her doesn't speak of a healthy relationship. I definitely agree with the theory that his sister was using him to experience things that she couldn't from her sickbed.
I love Kiyo so much omg, I’m really glad to see you taking a fairly neutral stance on him! A lot of people get really upset with him over his past with his sister, but I see the signs that she abused him and groomed him EVERYWHERE. He’s so awkward and creepy, it’s adorable. I just love him, I want to help him through his really unfair and tough past.
Yeah I really agree with and i like korekiyo it make feel sad that people don't realize that he was gr**med and se*ually abuse him when korekiyo is a MINOR and alot people don't like him because he is a fucking guy and really like korekiyo he's creepy, adorable, intersting to wierd things which make me sometimes adore him, Also unpopular opinion If rantaro was alive he would be a good influence on him with 12 sisters and help him with trauma. Thank you for my ted talk - Swirly twix
Apologize.
Come on... (vibrating in the background)
APOLOGIZE APOLOGIZE APOLOGIZE APOLOGIZE APOLOGIZE APOLOGIZE
APOLOGIZE !!!!!!
Korekiyo deserves more love, he's one of my favorites. By far my favorite design in the series, but also great lines and a fairly intriguing backstory that leaves much to the imagination. Not the deepest character out there, and he was basically killed as a plot device for Himiko's developpement, but I love what he brings to chapter 3 with the themes of death and the afterlife. That's a great analysis that encapsulates much of what I love about him!
Yay!!! Best boy!
Hannah Cooks yes he can
Kokichi best boy actually
Death Eater you’re technically correct
yeeehh!
Yes!
i've always thought, since he was the younger sibling, that his sister was very manipulative and that he was made to believe their closeness was an actual romantic relationship, bc he was also a very lonely kid and didn't know any better.
I WISH THEY GAVE MY BOI A REHABILITATION/OVERCOMING ARC 😭😭😭
Please do a Ryoma Hoshi or Miu Iruma Analysis or do another DR1 or SDR2 Analysis to spread the love out there. Maybe Mahiru Koizumi or Peko Pekoyama from SDR2, and Sakura Oogami or Kiyotaka Ishimaru from DR1. Please?!?
Alto and Mario Main Channel especially mahiru!
Mike Val Mahiru is great. Why do all my top tier choices for favorites die as victims in Chapter 2??? 😢😢
praise the underrated babies.
GIMME DAH ISHIBOY ANALYSIS!!!!!
Also Mahiru would be cool she deserves acknowledgement
if you guys keep showering all characters mentioned above some serious acknowledgement and love that they deserve i think i'm gonna cry
I just noticed the Ouma on Weeby's shirt in the end card.
Cuuuute
dropped everything to watch this! i really relate to his character (besides the...things revealed in chapter 3...) on many levels, and he really interests me. thank you for this video!
korekiyo is my favorite character from the entire series and when i stopped to study him, i got so angry at his sister for everything she had done to him. she abused him and it's implicit, you can see when doing the hangout events. the clothes he's wearing, his tastes, his personality, it's all because of his sister. he's a victim, and most of the fandom don't see that?? since the beginning, he didn't had time to heal himself, all his life and dedication is toward his sister. i love korekiyo so much and i wish he did had time to understand what happened to him
Korekiyo is my life
I still think that Tsumugi is his sister. It's the only other person whose fantasy is an incestuous relationship. Furthermore, she called Shuichi Sweetchi, just like Korekiyo/Sweet Korekiyo. Isn't that odd?
Oh, wow! That's *brilliant.* And he says his sister made his uniform for him, but who *really* made it? Tsumugi, of course!
Damn. This is my new official headcanon now. It makes so much sense.
It also makes sense because of her entire incest fantasy and fascination with meta/fiction based things.
It's more likely that Tsumugi simply wrote him that way because she likes incest stories
@@ItalianMappingBestMapper Well, considering how untrustworthy her words are (she told many things that can be proven to be false like to to just quote one example, how can they all be big fans of the game when nobody recognized Rantaro at the beginning?), my point still stands.
@@wobby1268 that's another great clue! I'll keep in mind when I'll share this theory mine.
I really love reading Danganronpa V3 pre-game theories~
Even though i feel like Tsumugi probably didn't lie about writing their backstories. I think so because it would make sense why some backstories are so bizarre. Like Rantarou losing his 12 sisters, Kirumi being the Prime minister and Gonta living with lizard people or smth xD
But then again there are inconsistencies in what she told them - she said they chose to be there yet before the flashback lights they remembered being kidnapped.
Also the part where Saihara's name was bleeped out even though before the flashback lights he said his name was Saihara was pretty odd.
This might be Kodaka's way to make the ending truly ambiguous or maybe i'm missing smth.
So even though there are problems with both theories, i think it's still valid to make theories about the pre-game characters even though there isn't all that much to work with 😅
It would be pretty cool to see what Weeby would come up with too~
I think it's possible that Shuichi was a fan of Team Danganronpa's Killing Game TV show. At the very end of Salmon Mode, after Monokuma tells all the students that they're free to go, Shuichi starts talking about returning to his boring life and the boring outside world (I don't remember EXACTLY what he said, but he kept using the word "boring"). We already know that the people who like Team Danganronpa's Killing Game TV show like it because they think their lives are dull and boring; so, I don't think it's that farfetched to conclude that Shuichi was one of those people.
As Weeby Newz mentioned in a previous video (unless I'm mistaken), we can't really create a theory with no holes because a lot of the information provided throughout V3 doesn't go together.
Heather Valenzano i thought that too, i've read some theories that are based on this idea and i think it's pretty interesting to look at the other characters in the same light as well. I'd like to see what could have lead all those different people to want to participate in the killing game. Since we have only kind of seen Shuichi's perspective.
Yeah, i agree, i'm just leaning towards it being more truth than lies just because of the weird backstories they gave some of them.
I just mentioned those inconsistencies to make the point that it's still valid to make theories about the pre-game characters. Because i've seen people trying to dismiss those theories entirely because they thought that Tsumugi was lying all along.
Even if Suichi and the others DID volunteer to be on Team Danganronpa's Killing Game TV show, that doesn't mean EVERYTHING Tsumugi said was true. V3's weird and confusing; let's leave it at that.
That still doesn't make it any more worth talking,especially since we only have actual information about a select few of them. It's better if those details are left for a more expansive theory video rather than a character analysis.
#ROPEDADDY
Sayori -
*yes*
Sayori no
Cursed Royal Studios yes
Not again q-q
No no no no no no no
Bruh his sister ruined his life-
yeah some people suck
Yeah and even her ghost got to rest. That’s fucking despicable and disgusting of her to do that to kiyo. He was such a lovely and unique character. His actions showed how loyal he was to a person even if they didn’t care about him. I truly loved korekiyo’s character and he could’ve developed instead of being thrown away. Great job, kodaka.😐😐
every danganronpa characters have SO SO MUCH depth to them, i wish they would do a casual anime about them with redemption arcs and everything. that'd be sick
This is sooo incredibly interesting :). I never thought of Korekiyo as someone who is naïve, because he seemed to know himself well and what he likes or doesn't like. The theory that his sister was extremely manipulative makes me feel so much pity for him.
I had a theory that his sister actually felt jealous over how others could Leave the hospital and make friends and have fun so she brainwashed him so he can become a slave then try to use him to get revenge that also explains her control over him and a lot of points you made explain this then after she died she took him over and completely destroyed the previous korekyo
It explains why he’s so skinny, too. If he couldn’t do anything she couldn’t, according to her rules, he probably wasn’t allowed to eat solid food for a period of time
@@tarrymoo2010 oh god your right
@@tarrymoo2010
I think she probably physically abused him a lot. As you can see there are bandages wrapped around Kiyo’s arms, likely using it to hide his scars.
Damn, never realized how bad the sister was. On the whole I really like Korekiyo as a villain, great execution, too.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! !!
This was great! I love Korekiyo and I agree with a lot of this tbh.
I'd love to see one for Gonta or Ryoma
An analysis for Angie would be really interesting.
it's so disappointing that his character is reduced to "psycho incest guy" when he has such an interesting complex like ????? he was obviously in a rocky situation with his sister and it literally wasn't consensual at all-?? like i love him sm but god the game creators did him so dirty
During my play, I agree to every single word coming out of Korekiyo's mouth
I actually really like him as a character, it’s clear his sister had affected him and made him feel like he can be his own person and has to live her wants instead of what he wants, she was manipulative to a person who cared for her a lot. It did add depth to his character and did make his kinda twisted as well which is one of the things that draws me to him instead of just being plain and having a boring background with a simple arc that so many characters fall into, honestly I would have liked some more disturbing stories behind him, so you get a better understanding of how he came to be.
*Obligatory seesaw/sister joke*
Fantastic analysis video!
I wish I had anything to add but you know it better than I do.
I wish people stop doubting Tsumugi and her Team Danganronpa theory of them having different lives. The fact that Rantaro made that video and mentioned previous game as well as we see the audience commentinc, pretty much confirm that Tsumugi dind't made this up and Korekiyo had been inserted with ficitonal life.
Yes best male character
It always makes me angry when people excuse Korekiyo’s trauma, it’s not his fault. It’s his sister’s for doing all of those terrible things to him
This was really thoughtful and very well done! I am a big Shinguji fan, but even I was given some new things to think about with this video. Thank you very much for the hard work!
I noticed that cool references that Korekiyo's execution made. First one: He was tied up and spun, just like he did with kaede's effigy. Second: He fell through a hole in the floor, referencing the loose floorboard used to kill tenko. Third: the salt that was thrown on his ghost could reference the salt he used to build the magic circle.
Another thing I noticed that implies Kiyo's sister more using him and manipulating him instead of actually being invested in their relationship and reciprocating the same feelings is that at the end of Kiyo's execution, his sister's ghost is actually helping throwing the salt at him, with quite the shit-eating grin I might add! like HAHA FOOL YOU FELL FOR IT!! Basically, in life, coercing him to fall in love with her and pushing him to do her bidding, just to give him one last roundhouse kick to the face with finally revealing her true intentions to him, not giving him a break even iN THE AFTERLIFE. His last moments with any last dribbles of consciousness were realizing his life and the lives he sacrificed was all because of a f a r c e and all for n o t h i n g. Which I think is QUITE the nail put into his fucked up of a life's coffin.
A lot of korekiyos character reminds me of Norman bates from psycho with this alongside his design and interesting personality leads him to be one of my favorite characters in the series
Wow. I imagined that the the sister personality was a way to cope with her death, and since this video is shorter than others of yours, I thought you would just say that and be done with it. But no, you went above and beyond my expectations. Good job Weeby. Good job.
They did him dirty I tell you. They did him dirty!
I KNOOWAS
Absolutely amazing character analysis!!! I already love Korekiyo as a character but this analysis really helped opening my eyes to what his past was really like and making him more of an empathetic character, I seriously loved this video!
I really liked your video. Before watching it I just thought Korekiyo was crazy, but what you said made me reconsider him as a good character.
Also: my hope will never die, please, do a Makoto Naegi character analysis.
Yes! Give Makoto the love and attention he deserves! :) :D
Tenko's naivety with her master, and Korekiyo's naivety with his sister. Hmm... Anyone else with a naivety?
Mmmm am i the only one whose fav character is this guy
nope
“His design seems to strongly draw inspiration from a character from Japanese musician hide’s music video for his song _Dice_ “
*_DICE!?!?_*
_Mh. I'm the only who love's his character design? He's so handsome._
IKR!
His design is amazing.
I just want to be a fly on the wall for the conversations that led to his final storyline. Because wow.
I CAME THE SECOND I HEARD MY SEXY MAN’S NAME
LMAO RAY
He is sexy
yes
Smokin hot
Smegsy
He would have made a great toko/syo character if he survived
Can you do a Chihiro Fujisaki or Chiaki Nanami analysis? They are both cinnamon rolls.
Here is what I think about him.
*he's hot*
Kιяυмι Tσʝσ is it bad that I thought you’re gonna put SEESAW? 😂
I mean he’s attractive compared to most characters
I thought the samurai in the background of his execution was a reference to sepukku. While the samurai slashes their stomach open, a second one stands behind them, ready to lob off their head before they feel any real suffering. Fittingly, just when he starts to suffer in the first torture, his hanging rope is cut and sent to his real death.
I actually really love this idea of the sister trying to experience life as much as possible. Literally turning to incest just to experience sex/love. I can certainly see her being controlling the way you're stating it.
This comment section is just a gathering for people who like Kiyo and I love it
he's so freaking insane and that's why i love him so much lol
Best character in entire series
thank you for this. korekiyo was my fav character (& one of the only ones i even liked tbh) & i was disappointed when his true self was revealed. i never looked past the surface level, & even though this doesn't justify his actions, it helps me come to terms with his character (for lack of a better saying)
i really really really loved korekiyo before they mentioned the incest bit. i think i was only so taken aback bc in each danganronpa there is one character that i always cling to (i guess?? i'm awful at explaining holy shit!) & i felt like i lost that after the trial
stupid, i know, but it's how i felt lol
His punishment is totally rad and one of my favorites now!
Dat Girl Neat contrast with Gundham who's always saying he'll go to hell but ends up in furry heaven.
Gundham is such an adorable cinnamon roll
This comment made me salty
PFFFFFFFFFFFFT
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY DARLING KIYO~!
I really liked him when I watched a UA-camr played V3. His design was a bit dark, but I think it suits his Ultimate. I also think he was very helpful at class trials. If he didn't murder either Angie or Tenko, I think he wouldn't have a Rebuttal.
And I think I agree that his sister kind of manipulated him. I don't know why, but it sounds very convincing to me