As many of you have noticed, two of the APU pins are slightly bent at about 6:10. This I did notice before inserting the chip, corrected the issue, and all is well. :) Sadly, I did not notice the bent pins in the take of the shot I used until very late in the editing process, or I would have sorted it out in the video as well. Some have suggested that I “dropped” the chip at about 5:36, and that this caused the damage. This may be true, but I strongly doubt it is the case. Rather than "dropping", I gently tipped the chip onto the surface below, and it fell a very small distance (a few mm at one end, and maybe 20mm at the other). To explain what was going on, I tipped it out to avoid my fingers being in shot too much in the CU. Would I do this again? Well, given the comments here, clearly not. :) And in this video I did say to leave the chip in its packaging and not to take it out as I did to show it in a close up. :) Almost certainly I damaged the pins because I handled the APU a great deal over many hours filming multiple takes and shots for several videos (such as a forthcoming film called “Explaining CPUs”). And as we can all see here, using a microprocessor as a filming prop can cause problems! They are best left in their packaging or plugged straight into a socket. Thanks to all of you who were/are concerned. But as we shall see in Part Two, the Ryzen 3 ends up working just fine. Happy Times & Places, Chris.
AMD is full of beans. The bulldozer was not multi core as they advertised and they lied to many people. The intel chips have NO PINS on them to get bent and the pins reside safely on the motherboard. The chip you show is from 2016 that is dated because technology advances every 3 years.Intel is leaps and bounds ahead.
@@sterlingbruno5196 um... WTF. you know this is Raven Ridge right? bulldozer was from FX series... this is ryzen. and also, pins on the motherboard are as vulnerable as the pins on the AMD processors, if not they can be even more delicate. its more expensive to fix a motherboard bent or broken pin that is better just to replace the motherboard. not Environmentally friendly here. Not to mention... this is a 2018 CPU, the copyright dates back from 2016 when the Ryzen trademark and copyright was registered.
@@frankzappa3156 You need to chill out. I have no beef with this guy so stop it. I'm a subscriber and watch his content same as you do. All I'm saying is he's not some "god" like the original post suggested. He's a mortal same as you or I. Just be a fan of him, but don't put him on a pedestal. That's all I'm saying.
My son and I built this PC in late 2020, following all the series steps, and it works! It was the first time for us doing anything like this. Let me explain why it was built so late...I first saw this series in late 2019 and then bought Christopher's suggested components when most were still available (not all purchases matched ones in the video, but I bought his alternative suggestions suggested from the EC website) soon after. Then the parts sat for about a year in my closet. Covid and other diversions got in the way of me actually putting it all together. But Christmas and some father and son time finally took precedent and we built it over the period of two days. This what we used: Masterbox Q300L, B450M D33H motherboard, M.2 SSD for the boot, a 6tb HDD for storage, the Corsair power supply and a GEForce GTX 1650. We also put in a wifi card in one of the PCIe slots. My 15-year old son and I would watch each video and then do the work ourselves. I had enough knowledge of how PCIe works from Christopher's other videos that the wifi card was an easy add. Our biggest problem was that the Q300L box is a bit quirky in layout (especially with the power supply), but some side-Googling helped us figure out how to do it. Thank you for posting this easy-to-follow series. It is so well-shot (great closeups of the motherboard and its connections) and so easy to see what you are doing. You also explain things so well. This all gave us great confidence as we followed along--and the computer works great!!! This is a wonderful adult (and teenager) education channel. BTW, I realize in late 2020 I could do better than the Ryzen 3 chip that we used (same as the video series), but it should be good enough for what we need and I already had purchased the Ryzen 3 long ago. Baby steps in computer building..... We didn't want to deviate too far from Christopher's directions. This process really demystified what makes a computer go and I doubt I will ever buy an off-the-shelf computer again. Happy new year, Christopher, and thanks again for all that you do!
Thanks Chris. This video encouraged me to attempt my own build. In the end I went with the Ryzen 5 2400G, 450 chipset motherboard and 16Gb RAM. I built the OS on an Arch base install with Openbox wm. Genuinely, without your three videos on a budget build I wouldn't have had the confidence to try something like this. It's a super channel Chris and a valuable resource. Well done and thanks again.
I've built a hundred systems over the years, so why am I watching this video? Christopher is just too damned fun to watch while he narrates the whole process. Nice work sir, as always!
exactly, my good man, exactly... i believe the magic of this channel is in pure and undiluted charisma which Christopher posses... very sophisticated voice of PC scene, if you will
This channel always has something relevant to what I'm working on.After familiarizing myself with basic beginner budget Intel builds, I'm testing out and learning AMD and I recently acquired a Ryzen 5 3400G and Gigabyte AX370 board. My only other experience with AMD cpu's was with an HP pavilion that has an A12-9800 cpu that has hotspots and dangerously overheats and causes bluescreen shutdowns.
You always do an amazing job with these. Also, thank you for not clouding all the content you do with royalty free music. Sometimes it’s nice to just have someone literally explain things without all of that extra stuff. Hope all is well, thanks again.
Small point. To avoid crossing the threads on screws, it is a good idea when starting a screw, to slowly turn it the wrong way until you feel the screw drop on the threads. This allows the screw to sit on a full revolution of the thread and therefore the screw should be aligned to the nut. Any thread helix has a start point, on both the male and female thread. if you get the two start points sitting together, there is nothing to ensure the alignment of the screws. when you back-spin the screw, the start point of the male helix will drop off the start point on the female and you will then have one full revolution of the two thread helixes in contact. As both helixes must, by definition, be aligned to the direction of the screw, the male thread will be aligned to the female.
They should really use machine screws instead of self tapping, AMD cheaping out again... They still use the Athlon clamp cooler for the high end CPU, I use a 2700x system as I prefer their systems from an economic point of view but for a young builder like myself it really annoys me when they should be championing new standards instead.
Amir Pourghoureiyan i do not believe they were self tappers. The only 'improvement' the manufacturer could have made is the addition of a dog-point to ensure alignment of the screw.
@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 The mounting screws on the Wraith Spire and Stealth coolers are *not* self-tapping. They are real machine screws so no corners have been cut and nobody cheaped out. What annoys me is when people rant without checking the facts first.
For me it has been rare to look forward to a video upload as much as I have this series. You have given me that little nudge to leap into my first build....even to upgrade the RAM and CPU a bit. Am really anticipating next week's release. Thanks so much!
He goes at the same pace as I do building PC's. Been doing it for over 20 years but still stop and take in how far we have come and how beautiful they are now. Many people don't do that anymore. Thank you Chris for showing and taking you time on this!
Christopher, I really appreciate the pace of the video; gentle and understandable, nothing rushed. Of all the upcoming segments related to this build, the part I'm most looking forward to is hopefully one on the settings that have to be changed in the BIOS, for instance (to give just two examples) the settings related to RAM and the hard drives. ALL the so-called tuts in YT skip that part!!! Please, please dedicate an entire video to just that? Thank you :)
I will delve into the BIOS as needed in Part Three (well, we see it briefly at the end of Part Two as well). Though I don't think much will need to change.
This will be the most amazing and useful series for us,thankyou for covering all the minute details which are imp. and are missed by other pc builders on this platform
Thank you so much for these great videos. I look forward to them every Sunday. This morning my son and I watched you as we ate breakfast. I think I will use this latest installment to begin his CompTIA A+ certification training. What an inspiration you are.
As always a great video for anyone that's thinking about building a new PC. Slow and carefully documented with each element of the build explained in detail. Not all UA-cam presenters are as professional as you are Chris. For many years to come this build video can and will be used to instruct people on how to build a system that will "Just work" when the switch is turned on. For example you cover Electrostatic discharge (ESD) at the beginning and go over why its necessary , other presenters say very little about ESD and can care less. As a retired bench tech its a joy to see you work! Looking forward to you next video!
This might be one of the most relaxed build I’ve listened too so far. The way you talk about the computer and its components just scream the passion you have for it. I am taking computer science 10-30 starting in march and want to get a basic idea of what im looking at before the course starts. I love building anything i can get my hands on computers use some of the most delicate touch out of anything I’ve worked on, alongside the most care and thought about not blowing up the parts just by touching them. Ive worked on cars and for certain jobs you just take a crowbar to it, ive worked on houses and for the most part a crowbar is always near by but i cant find it around my computer. Or the fact that my dumbass has never given a thought about static coming off me and frying my pc when i break it open to have a look or clean it (which is due soon ) thank you for the video i subbed, hope you dont mind if i use some of your videos as a cheat sheet or reference to material.
Thanks for the sub. I think and hope you will enjoy the rest of this series -- and other videos here. No problem using them as a "cheat sheet", this channel is widely used in education. :)
Chris, I'm very impressed with the sharp focus and resolution of your video camera. The close-ups of your motherboard are fantastic. Very detailed, thank you.
2400 MHz memory will do fine but I recommend getting 2666 MHz or even 2800 MHz with the 2200G/2400G. 3000 MHz will work for most people but anything over 2933 MHz on first gen Ryzen is considered an overclock.
@TechNotesStuff APu s are 1gen behind the others 2200G is built on 14nm, 3200g is built on 12nm , but when the next APU come out? And why cant I Buy a 3400Ge at retail even 2400ge is invisible ?
This is just perfect, I was about to start buying components for a custom made PC for Linux and needed some guidance. Explaining Computers had a perfect timing, it saved me a lot of problems.
I just hate when the video ends. Such excellent content. And very helpful as I am planning to build a new computer based on the Ryzen series CPU architecture soon. I was a bit confused by the B350/B450 etc and what they were all about. Now I know! Thanks Explaining Computers!
To use a second gen Ryzen on a B350 chipset board you would have to update the BIOS. Which would require you to insert a first gen Ryzen, run the board, update the BIOS, then use your second gen chip. So it is a far better idea to get a 450 chipset board. :)
@@ExplainingComputers Why did you not hold out a few more months for the 3000 series Ryzen CPU's? They are said to have a significant CPU boost, and better graphics. More cores in all models also.
@@williambaldwin9346 At some point you just have to pull the trigger otherwise you'd be waiting for ever because there's always something better coming soon. As it is we might well see a follow-up where Chris updates the BIOS and installs a new processor.
@@ExplainingComputers Unless you are buying VERY old stock, even A320 motherboards will support a 2200G without a bios flash. Talking from experience last month. If for some reason its not updated, most local computer places will flash a newer bios for (Australian) $20. For a cheap build for someone that wont ever overclock, i would only ever suggest an A320. (think a parents PC or in my case, a VM box running pfSense (a router/firewall os), a xubuntu VM for downloads and also hosting a Unifi controller (for my Wireless access points)
Nice job on another very informative tech video. Just a couple of added notes, if you don't mind for new builders. 1) It's important to ensure that you don't touch the top of the CPU and if you do it must be cleaned with a lint-free cloth and some alcohol before attaching the CPU Cooler. You are always very careful with electronic components, but the new builder may not be as careful. 2) The DDR4 RAM modules need to be oriented correctly. An important thing to remember in building computers is - IF IT DOESN'T FIT DOEN'T FORCE IT! 3) You explained it clearly, but it would be easier if to check the CPU fan orientation, and change it if necessary, before installing it so you don't put undue pressure on the CPU socket. 4) One nice feature on the board you selected is that the Video Card socket also has some extra metal reinforcing around it, which is a very nice feature to have for new builders and enthusiasts'. Again; another nice video and I'm looking forward to video #2 in this series. P.S. In case someone does mess up the thermal compound on the CPU Cooler, it might be a good idea to touch on what to do if that happens.
This channel is the most consistent regarding its video's content, taking into account today's youtube averrage videos layout/scheme its saying a lot. Keep up the good work and don't lose your retro flare.
I just got an Acer Nitro 5 with a Ryzen 2500U 2 weeks ago and I already ran Space Quest 3 on it. It amazes me how I first played this game on my PC/XT-compatible NEC V20-based PC back in the early 90's.. in *CGA!!* And now it runs great on both my Ryzen and my FX-8350. I just love how AMD is the alternative CPU supplier of the PC world. No Intel for me. Enjoy your new rig, good Sir.
Love this series. I can count on my hand the amount of videos available that go into DETAIL building a PC. Most tend to gloss over the steps and assume the viewer is thrilled with the montage. Thanks.
I'm an IT professional (backend and UXUI) and love your videos. They're so calm, informative, and enjoyable to watch. Looking forward to seeing you experiment with RGB! As you mentioned your previous RAM video, do you have a plan for a follow-up where you explain additional timings?
I love the pace of your videos. Slower than most but not too slow. Just very calming to listen to and I don’t feel intimidated because it’s easy to keep up
Dear Chris, I watch your videos each week without fail, and find them both entertaining and reliably informative. But what practical benefit do you get from this effort. No doubt you have had some master plan in mind all along. Keep up the good work. Kind regards, Peter.
Thanks for this. :) I get the practical benefit of earning my living -- I am pretty much a full-time UA-camr now, being paid advertising revenue from Google.
Excellent Christopher..... you are like a child opening a birthday present....I know the feeling! Nothing like new computer components....I like the smell of them.... roll on part 2!
But it's always tinged with that nagging doubt.... will it run? Or might it be one of those buggy computers that never quite works right. Doesn't happen often, but does still happen.
I say, well done! Filming on the white backdrop top down at normal speed with commentary, great video! Your the first video that's given me confidence that I can build my own computer with your clear easy to follow instructions.
I love your detailed explanations. Zooming the camera to show each part makes all the difference for understanding. I always watch your videos here in Brazil.
This is a brilliant breakdown video! Reminds me of all the parts of the motherboard. After all, if you don't muck around with motherboards often, one can tend to forget the 'little' things. Thanks for putting this series together...
A few months ago I upgraded my PC with all new components including a Ryzen 5 2600 6 core and an MSI motherboard. My motherboard also has LED capability so looking forward to that video. In the meantime, this series I will be checking to see if there is anything I can improve on my recent upgrade. Some of us are just born to tinker, I do the same with my 3D Printers etc, even my router got the tinker treatment. Nothing is out of bounds in my house :-)
More RGB equals higher clocks speeds for your CPU. Don't forget to add RGB to your Ram, SSD, AIO radiator, and power supply. Adding RGB to your power supply will take a 500 watt and turn it into a 800 watt. Matter of fact everywhere you can put RGB you can expect reasonable performance increase. Your PC should be blinking and strobe lighting like the sun for optimal performance.
The quality / context / dialogue of the video, fantastic graphics, it makes building a PC from parts a doable exercise by anyone. This series could be used in schools for STEM learning / doing
I've built too many computers to remember, yet I watch this for the Zen of Chris. Very relaxing yet exciting, which is a strangely addictive state of mind. Looking forward to the next part for sure.
ExplainingComputers does a Ryzen PC build. Fantastic! I've done a Ryzen 5 and 7 build as a noob, but this series is going to be great to improve my learning, thanks ec!
HOLEY UNDERWEAR! What a smart-looking MoBo/CPU/DDR4 combination! I'll have to start putting together some pesos to replace my old AM3 based computer _very soon._
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks, Chris. It's been about thirteen years since my last barebones PC build, so I'm a little bit behind the curve with some of the newer developments. I've got a couple of new projects in mind for the near future, though, and I can already see that your channel is going to cover all the key bases to get me back on top of my hardware game.
@@ExplainingComputers And on a separate note, a quick question: I often allow UA-cam adverts to run their full course (rather than clicking on 'Skip Ads' at the earliest opportunity), on the assumption that doing so will increase ad revenue for the creator. Am I correct in thinking that? I particularly like that your content is not littered with advertising, and that is a greater incentive for me to let the full adverts play at the beginning and end of the video.
At this point in time the 2700x is the best performance cpus as the intel prices are really... Shitty... In my country the i7 9700k is 120 dollars more then the 2700x and the i9 9900k is about double that or 250 dollars more then the 2700x... It sucks for people who were thinking of a good i7 build...
@Martin Chaush i know it can be overclocked more easily and higher then the ryzen cpus but the price dosent cut it for me and probably most people... Also to get an actual good overclock you would need a good water loop or at least a top of the line aio...
Just theoretical here, I was looking in cex at pc parts; R5 1600x £130 Gtx 1060 £150 Generic gigabyte mobo £40-50, let’s say 50 Ram: Corsair vengeance 8gb £50 Storage: 1tb hdd £20 That’s £400 which is incredibly cheap for its performance
Absolutely love your videos. I reckon I've been doing the rounds building PCs as long as you have (same age probably) and you do explain things in a very easy to understand and pleasant manner. After building my PCs with intel CPUs after I moved over to the Pentium III, later Pentium IV and onwards from the AMD K6-III I was very surprised by the performance of the newer AMD Ryzen chips. A lot better price/performance ratio when it comes to your wallet. :) I chose a Ryzen7 2700x about a year ago and I have been very happy with all the threads it has. Especially in Linux it's amazing doing a compile in the back ground while still using the system. Or in Windows editing and rendering while still use it for web browsing. Or just let it rip through a video file encoding it. I love how Intel and AMD are competing for the user's attention. Actually prefer the pins on the CPU and the way the cooler mounts on AMD boards over the Intel sockets. A bent pin on the CPU is easily recovered but a bent pin in a socket isn't.
Remember the old Pentium II cpu's with their slot interface. The best thing with those was the Heatsink and fan were all on the module. Very easy to install. I remember back with the 386 DX40 boards the CPU was built onto the motherboard. Come to think of it I don't think I ever actually used that board and just went from my SX 25 straight to a 486.
I actually repaired a Gigabyte H110 board after a bent pin and only got it working after resetting the CMOS. I'm unsure what happened but it looked like some sort of debris got under the pins (without me ever taking the CPU out, go figure) and in my attempt to remove it, ben a pin. I managed to repair it with a magnifying glass and a sewing needle. I didnt get it perfect but once I installed the CPU it aligned itself, I dunno how or why. That said.... I've bent pins on the Socket 939 chips before too, or one of them anyway. WAY WAY easier to fix than that single pin on the H110.
@@toxiccan175 When you see that PC with wood grain you'll truly know what the "Turbo" button is all about. Join me and together we will rule the x86 landscape!
I still have my old beige AT (not ATX) full tower unit. Power supply at the top, motherboard at the bottom, cd drive & tape drive at the top... And 90cm ide/scsi cables stretched to a limit!
Wow, three appearings for Stanley the knife in one video. What a hero! Thanks Chris for the nice video. We hear a lot of negative talks on AMD based PCs on UA-cam. Hope your work proves it is no more than myths.
Looks like a decent build! Also fan of Gigabyte boards, but I don't mind Asus as well. Currently I have a full ATX monster but will never go that way again. Nowadays I prefer mATX or even ITX. I don't mind having 2 DIMMs instead of 4, since 16Gb of RAM is all I need right now. Maybe 32 in the future, but this will fit just nicely in 2 DIMMs with 16 Gb per DIMM. I also learned to appreciate power efficiency of newer components - it's something you get to appreciate when living on your own for a significant period of time.
When paying for your own electric... You do appreciate less energy going in heat waste, lower temps etc. Also means more reliability when running for long periods of time.
Oh man...you need to post these videos at the same time! Such a tease! I can't wait for the rest in the series!....Very awesome stuff. Reminds of of the good ol' days when the small company I worked for built all servers from scratch. I might just have to take on this build myself.
I'd like to thank you for this video series! I took a few liberties with the hardware, and built with the following specs: Ryzen 5 3600 6-core processor x 12, a Radeon Rx 570, 8gb, Gibabyte B450M DS3H, 600 W PSU, and 16 GB Ram (V-Color Prism RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200MHz). The entire build cost less than $550, took about a day to put together, and we loaded Ubuntu 18.04LTS from a thumbdrive (took less than 30 minutes to install, update, and configure). We're now getting a glmark2 Score of 11663. We are VERY happy with the build, and this series was instrumental. Thank you.
@@ExplainingComputers 3 years later, she's been upgraded with: an NZXT case, an Asus Tuf Gaming X570 Plus mobo, and a GTX 1080 founders edition. The upgrade paths you've given us are innumerable, and I thank you! The Ryzen 5, PSU and RAM are all that's original in this "PC of Theseus." Also, happy to report the b450M is enjoying life with my daughter at university, and serving her well.
I was surprised when shopping around for motherboards around 70-90 USD as there were quite a few B450M ones (mid range chipsets) which had a ton of features and seemed quite user friendly. I ended up going for a MSI B450M Gaming Plus, and it's a awesome little board!
How motherboards have changed. I am genuinely impressed by this board and the variety of connections. My first desktop was a 25MHz 486SX with 8MB RAM and 240MB IDE HDD. This has an SSD slot and 4 SATA III ports. It’s just mind boggling. Many thanks, Christopher. Should I consider building a PC in the future, I shall definitely be referring to your videos for recommended component parts.
A better comparison is the GT1030, or the RX550, both of which are for sale currently, rather than being 5 years old. Neither of which are gaming cards, but are suitable for upgrading Intel iGPU PC. These days, 1080p 'light' gaming is expected. Frankly, not all that impressed when a discrete, passively cooled, low-profile budget GPU can routinely beat Vega 8. That puts it just about where AMD integrated graphics have always been, starting with the (ATI) X300 about 15 years ago.
@Rob_Semi-Nerdly Good points. I guess I was looking at the comparison between Vega graphics and an obsolete and much unloved GPU from years past. The fact the commenter chose an NVidia card, rather than AMD (which I found a current-gen one that benches fairly closely as a comparison) seemed more than a bit specious. Yes, let's give props to AMD for creating a desirable product, but not go out of our way to find meaningless comparisons to artificially buoy up the product. But my main point is the Vega graphics is not revolutionary or break-through, merely evolutionary, keeping up with Moore's law and nothing more. The real loss is not moving beyond 1080p as *the* mainstream resolution about 4-5 years ago.
Wow. What an amazing series of videos. The best thing that you did is ACTUALLY explain stuff. It is a good guide to learn about computers and build them.
He is what i imagine my self being at his age. LOVE IT. :) Tech is Love Tech is Life. I have built my 1st pc with Ryzen dirty cheap but very good workhorse. Ryzen 1600X for 130$, Motherboard ASRock 50$, RX 570 4gb 180$, 8gb ddr4 3000 happy as pup. Ryzen CPUs are so underrated and in shadow by INTEL but people are finally noticing.
Nice motherboard but I bought this one: MB ASRock B450M Pro4. It has 4 Ram slots, 2 M.2 slots, 2 PCI-X slots - one 16 gen 3 and gen 2 16x and also has a usb c 3.1 gen 2 port. Otherwise everything is lovely. Great explanation for people that have not delved into modern buiding of PCs! Kudos to you!
Thanks for this , I have selected these parts on my Amazon list. My wife's parents are needing a new computer soon, this will be great! Keep up the cool videos
Yes, but bent back. Not bent on that drop I think, but there were multiple takes using the chip for a range of videos, so it was handled a lot. I did say not to do as I did! :)
@@ExplainingComputers It's probably worth noting that all AMD processors have the disadvantage that these pins are EXTREMELY delicate, and careful handling is imperative if ZIF is to be attained. Yes, each pin can be gently eased back into position, but careless handling can make this a daunting task if many pins, or - perish the thought - less accessible pins than those on the edge are bent.
@@trisstock9047 I like it. You have to be very careful during a build. The first thing I do in a build is put in the CPU. It is exciting, and actually really easy if you handle the CPU carefully. I have bent a pin before and was able to bend it back but this was during some later GPU swap. The mother boards are cheaper in part because of this form factor as well. I consider any AMD build a gamble with a great payoff in performance vs $$$. I've had phenomenal luck. Knock on wood.
Alas someone who doesn’t rush with the build and shows all the features and stuff! Yeah, the experienced of us know a lot of the information provided, but for younger enthusiasts it may get handy. And I love the british accent :) Oh, and there’s no music! thumbs up
Oh, I thought it's well worth mentioning that those USB 3.1 ports are in fact gen1, so 5 Gbit/s instead of 10 Gbit/s on 3.1 gen2. It is really confusing, I know. This is marketing again for you, making it seem you have faster ports, but instead it's basically the same as USB 3.0, just renamed to fool people...
Most of PGA processors i've worked with use to come with some pins like that, I don't know if is because of poor packaging or whatever, but they always fit in the socket without a problem, if they don't drop in the socket don't ever use force, and when you lock them in the socket the pin is straightened.
@@crimsun7186 actually because it fell and if it landed first on the corner pins the mass of the chip and acceleration of gravity can surprisingly create a lot of energy especially if its focused in a small spot. CPU and other IC products QC is very strict and i doubt bent pins would ever make it through missed. And if you go to before he flpped it. Its hard to tell for sure but it looks like that no pins and specifically the one by the triangle were not bent previous to flipping it.
Just ordered the B450 Pro M2 so this was an eyeopener , fried the bios in the first computer I built in 2010 , this'll be the 2nd ( and hopefully last ) Only gaming is chess & solitaire ( video editing & play around with Blender & Unreal Engine ) so hoped Ryzen 3 3200 & 16 gigs of Corsair will be enough. JUST learned about M.2 Nvme last week , 500 Gb Western for 70 usd , pinching pennies right now ! As always Chris , a joy to listen to your teaching , stay safe & many happy builds
Thanks for your most helpful series on the Ryzen Build. I am typing this on my new build which has worked perfectly from the start despite a few pitfalls. One was an accidental purchase of an ATX motherboard instead of a mini-ATX board, resulting in my having to order a second-larger case. But the larger board has extra SATA ports, a USB-c port, and most importantly, WIFI, as my home is not wired for Ethernet cabling. Now, with an extra, mini-ATX case lying about, I think that I will build another PC for my sister, this time sticking closer to your specifications. My only trial has been to get Linux Mint to run, for the USB key I created only boots to a blank screen. Thanks again!
ExplainingComputers : Yes, I have tried to make some bios changes including the boot order, boot disk type, however I haven’t tried to update the bios itself as of yet. So, I will keep trying. I have set up a dual boot on my six year old Samsung all-in-one with Linux Mint and I was so delighted that I seriously had considered making it my only operating system. Thanks to you I’ve finally got the Linux bug!
Some extra tidbits: If you have a cooler from the AM3/AM3+ socket (phoenom 2/FX), those clips he removed are there to let you reuse the old cooler. It should be more than sufficient for the cooler Ryzens. I'm using XPG Gaming D10 RAM from Adata (the 3000 speed) and it works swell for $100. The X370 and B350 motherboards are very cheap, as are the older first-gen Ryzens. (I have a 1700x and ASRock X370 Gaming X) I don't know if they still do this, but for a while AMD offered to send people loaner CPUs so they could update the BIOS to run the newer chips.
That was one thing, when they released the Ryzen 2000 series CPU's, they still only sold B350 mobos, which was fine if you already had an older AMD CPU, but if you were making a new build, a Ryzen 2000 series CPU wouldn't work in a B350 board unless you made sure the place you ordered the B350 motherboard from had already updated the BIOS for the 2000 series CPU's, You think they'll release B550 motherboards when they release the Ryzen 3000 series, or will it be the same again?
@@lmcgregoruk they'll release the chipset at the same time, but how many motherboards have it at release is not anything I can answer with certainty. I would hope so, though. It's one reason I always want to have my trusty 1700x around even if I upgrade. Never know which friend I might have to loan it to for a UEFI update
OUSTANDING!!! loved every second of this one ! and i love the colour of the ram and motherboard ! its all coming together so nicely ... off to watch some more ! thanks !
Probably an imitation of the Linus Tech Tips method, where, among other things, Linus dropped and damaged a US $10,000 Xeon Platinum 8180 Processor. Now, we'll all have to start doing it.
Dear Chris, I made my first built of desktop computer according to your explanations. It was a great experience. Everything went well. I used Gigabyte B450M DS3H board with Ryzen 3200G CPU (which according to my research replaced 2200G). I had a few small "glitches" in the parts selection and building process: 1. The board needed a BIOS update for the CPU I selected. Hopefully the company I bought the parts warned me about and performed the update (free of charge) as I didn't want to mess things (I wanted to keep with your explanations). 2. I had no idea how much to tighten the screws of the CPU fan. I didn't want to damage the motherboard or the CPU. But after some research I succeeded. At the end I had my computer with M.2 disk with Windows 10 (as I mostly get angry with the slow speed of this OS) and alongside another 2.5 SSD with Ubuntu 20.04 (my favorite OS). Unfortunately I didn't succeed to clone my previous HDDs (I think because my new drives were smaller in capacity than what I had and I don't have so much understanding about partitions, etc.) and I made clean installations. I have some difficulties to find drivers for the integrated Radeon graphics for Ubuntu (I have some graphical "glitches" when using browsers, some horizontal lines that appear randomly) but except this everything works very well, very fast. Thank you!
Amazing presentation skills. I have been building my own desktop computers for over 15 years so nothing here is new but you did a good job keeping my attention.
same.. looked at the video and see Windows and linux with b450 in it... guess I shouldnt have bought an am4 asrock motherboard... they dont support any versio of linux. so now I'm on my 2nd week putting a pc together when it shoulda taken a day :-\ had I known all the problems with amd shit I would have never tried them out.... (never touched amd before) but in the end run win10 will fix my prob :-\
Thanks for a wonderful and clearly explained guide to building Ryzen computer. As always, you do a wonderful job of explaining the "whys" along with the "hows". As I am looking forward to the next installment in the project. Keep up your awesome work!
Takes me back to the mid 80s when I built my first PC. The fun of working out the settings on the motherboard and settings in the BIOS. Last computer I built was 8yrs ago. Now I just Frankenstein laptops. Apple or windows. These days its a lot easier to build a PC than it was. And price differences from building your own or buying one isn't much. But its still fun to build your own
As many of you have noticed, two of the APU pins are slightly bent at about 6:10. This I did notice before inserting the chip, corrected the issue, and all is well. :) Sadly, I did not notice the bent pins in the take of the shot I used until very late in the editing process, or I would have sorted it out in the video as well.
Some have suggested that I “dropped” the chip at about 5:36, and that this caused the damage. This may be true, but I strongly doubt it is the case. Rather than "dropping", I gently tipped the chip onto the surface below, and it fell a very small distance (a few mm at one end, and maybe 20mm at the other). To explain what was going on, I tipped it out to avoid my fingers being in shot too much in the CU. Would I do this again? Well, given the comments here, clearly not. :) And in this video I did say to leave the chip in its packaging and not to take it out as I did to show it in a close up. :)
Almost certainly I damaged the pins because I handled the APU a great deal over many hours filming multiple takes and shots for several videos (such as a forthcoming film called “Explaining CPUs”). And as we can all see here, using a microprocessor as a filming prop can cause problems! They are best left in their packaging or plugged straight into a socket.
Thanks to all of you who were/are concerned. But as we shall see in Part Two, the Ryzen 3 ends up working just fine.
Happy Times & Places,
Chris.
glad i was not the only one that noticed... the moment i saw it. instant TRIGGERED
AMD is full of beans. The bulldozer was not multi core as they advertised and they lied to many people. The intel chips have NO PINS on them to get bent and the pins reside safely on the motherboard. The chip you show is from 2016 that is dated because technology advances every 3 years.Intel is leaps and bounds ahead.
Yo... if you pull it back out. Lapping the CPU and heatsink would be amazing.
@@sterlingbruno5196 um... WTF. you know this is Raven Ridge right? bulldozer was from FX series... this is ryzen. and also, pins on the motherboard are as vulnerable as the pins on the AMD processors, if not they can be even more delicate. its more expensive to fix a motherboard bent or broken pin that is better just to replace the motherboard. not Environmentally friendly here. Not to mention... this is a 2018 CPU, the copyright dates back from 2016 when the Ryzen trademark and copyright was registered.
@@sterlingbruno5196You couldn't be more wrong if you tried Sir.
I have repaired PC's all my life and I find this UA-cam channel so addictive, maybe it's due to the living legend presenting the videos.
"Living legend"? lol he carelessly dropped the CPU onto the table and bent some of the pins. Frankly, I'd expect a lot better from a "living legend".
@@fatherelijahcal9620 Been a technician for 20yrs and I have dropped a few, mistakes do happen, wind your neck in and chill fella..
@@frankzappa3156 You need to chill out. I have no beef with this guy so stop it. I'm a subscriber and watch his content same as you do.
All I'm saying is he's not some "god" like the original post suggested. He's a mortal same as you or I. Just be a fan of him, but don't put him on a pedestal. That's all I'm saying.
@@fatherelijahcal9620 I don't see any bent pins. Bent pins also would have prevented the CPU from going into the socket cleanly.
My son and I built this PC in late 2020, following all the series steps, and it works! It was the first time for us doing anything like this. Let me explain why it was built so late...I first saw this series in late 2019 and then bought Christopher's suggested components when most were still available (not all purchases matched ones in the video, but I bought his alternative suggestions suggested from the EC website) soon after. Then the parts sat for about a year in my closet. Covid and other diversions got in the way of me actually putting it all together. But Christmas and some father and son time finally took precedent and we built it over the period of two days. This what we used: Masterbox Q300L, B450M D33H motherboard, M.2 SSD for the boot, a 6tb HDD for storage, the Corsair power supply and a GEForce GTX 1650. We also put in a wifi card in one of the PCIe slots. My 15-year old son and I would watch each video and then do the work ourselves. I had enough knowledge of how PCIe works from Christopher's other videos that the wifi card was an easy add. Our biggest problem was that the Q300L box is a bit quirky in layout (especially with the power supply), but some side-Googling helped us figure out how to do it. Thank you for posting this easy-to-follow series. It is so well-shot (great closeups of the motherboard and its connections) and so easy to see what you are doing. You also explain things so well. This all gave us great confidence as we followed along--and the computer works great!!! This is a wonderful adult (and teenager) education channel. BTW, I realize in late 2020 I could do better than the Ryzen 3 chip that we used (same as the video series), but it should be good enough for what we need and I already had purchased the Ryzen 3 long ago. Baby steps in computer building..... We didn't want to deviate too far from Christopher's directions. This process really demystified what makes a computer go and I doubt I will ever buy an off-the-shelf computer again. Happy new year, Christopher, and thanks again for all that you do!
This is all great to hear -- enjoy your new computer! :) Now that you have built one, you will never think of a computer in quite the same way again.
Thanks Chris. This video encouraged me to attempt my own build. In the end I went with the Ryzen 5 2400G, 450 chipset motherboard and 16Gb RAM. I built the OS on an Arch base install with Openbox wm. Genuinely, without your three videos on a budget build I wouldn't have had the confidence to try something like this. It's a super channel Chris and a valuable resource. Well done and thanks again.
Thanks for this feedback, which is really great to hear. :)
This is the kind of channel YT should be recommending.......No theatrics, speaks clear and slow, very informative.
I've built a hundred systems over the years, so why am I watching this video? Christopher is just too damned fun to watch while he narrates the whole process. Nice work sir, as always!
exactly, my good man, exactly... i believe the magic of this channel is in pure and undiluted charisma which Christopher posses... very sophisticated voice of PC scene, if you will
That's a weird looking rasberry pi
Yes, I am struggling to find the GPIO connector.
notafraid06 man Sbc getting bigger and bigger these days
NBS tv
@TG Leviathan ARM can't work together with X86 at all
Lol
"Let's be really wild, and put them on the table there." Gosh, this channel is wholesome. I love it. Genuine personality. Thanks!
This channel always has something relevant to what I'm working on.After familiarizing myself with basic beginner budget Intel builds, I'm testing out and learning AMD and I recently acquired a Ryzen 5 3400G and Gigabyte AX370 board. My only other experience with AMD cpu's was with an HP pavilion that has an A12-9800 cpu that has hotspots and dangerously overheats and causes bluescreen shutdowns.
You always do an amazing job with these. Also, thank you for not clouding all the content you do with royalty free music. Sometimes it’s nice to just have someone literally explain things without all of that extra stuff. Hope all is well, thanks again.
This series will be the one to link to people too intimidated to build their own system! You make it look so easy and explain everything so well!
Thanks. And there is a lot of construction in the next video. But we see every screw, every connector inserted. :)
I want to build a Ryzen 2600 PC, but I'm too intimidated, I'll watch the rest of this series first, then I may attempt it.
Small point. To avoid crossing the threads on screws, it is a good idea when starting a screw, to slowly turn it the wrong way until you feel the screw drop on the threads. This allows the screw to sit on a full revolution of the thread and therefore the screw should be aligned to the nut.
Any thread helix has a start point, on both the male and female thread. if you get the two start points sitting together, there is nothing to ensure the alignment of the screws. when you back-spin the screw, the start point of the male helix will drop off the start point on the female and you will then have one full revolution of the two thread helixes in contact. As both helixes must, by definition, be aligned to the direction of the screw, the male thread will be aligned to the female.
They should really use machine screws instead of self tapping, AMD cheaping out again... They still use the Athlon clamp cooler for the high end CPU, I use a 2700x system as I prefer their systems from an economic point of view but for a young builder like myself it really annoys me when they should be championing new standards instead.
@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 for the price I can't complain if they cut a few corners.
Amir Pourghoureiyan i do not believe they were self tappers. The only 'improvement' the manufacturer could have made is the addition of a dog-point to ensure alignment of the screw.
@@ronch550 I miss when the brand was something to gauge quality, for a few years now price seems to separate the flawed from the flawless
@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 The mounting screws on the Wraith Spire and Stealth coolers are *not* self-tapping. They are real machine screws so no corners have been cut and nobody cheaped out. What annoys me is when people rant without checking the facts first.
I love the smell of a new PC, putting together a new rig and the first switch on is the best part of computing :-)
Agreed! :) The first switch on for this system is included in next week's video.
yep! powering on new electronics creates a smell unlike any other...
For me it has been rare to look forward to a video upload as much as I have this series. You have given me that little nudge to leap into my first build....even to upgrade the RAM and CPU a bit. Am really anticipating next week's release. Thanks so much!
Awesome vid... Not rushed like other caffeine addicts that do pc builds...
Exactly my sentiments.
Spot on.
Agree my favorite video on the subject so far
Leave it to the computer scientists to build a gaming PC.
He goes at the same pace as I do building PC's. Been doing it for over 20 years but still stop and take in how far we have come and how beautiful they are now. Many people don't do that anymore. Thank you Chris for showing and taking you time on this!
Christopher, I really appreciate the pace of the video; gentle and understandable, nothing rushed. Of all the upcoming segments related to this build, the part I'm most looking forward to is hopefully one on the settings that have to be changed in the BIOS, for instance (to give just two examples) the settings related to RAM and the hard drives. ALL the so-called tuts in YT skip that part!!! Please, please dedicate an entire video to just that? Thank you :)
I will delve into the BIOS as needed in Part Three (well, we see it briefly at the end of Part Two as well). Though I don't think much will need to change.
This will be the most amazing and useful series for us,thankyou for covering all the minute details which are imp. and are missed by other pc builders on this platform
Love it! I've been involved in IT since early 90's and in all that time I've never built my own PC. That's about to change!! Thanks for this! :)
Thank you so much for these great videos. I look forward to them every Sunday. This morning my son and I watched you as we ate breakfast. I think I will use this latest installment to begin his CompTIA A+ certification training. What an inspiration you are.
As always a great video for anyone that's thinking about building a new PC. Slow and carefully documented with each element of the build explained in detail. Not all UA-cam presenters are as professional as you are Chris. For many years to come this build video can and will be used to instruct people on how to build a system that will "Just work" when the switch is turned on. For example you cover Electrostatic discharge (ESD) at the beginning and go over why its necessary , other presenters say very little about ESD and can care less. As a retired bench tech its a joy to see you work! Looking forward to you next video!
Thanks for your kind feedback. Most appreciated.
This might be one of the most relaxed build I’ve listened too so far. The way you talk about the computer and its components just scream the passion you have for it. I am taking computer science 10-30 starting in march and want to get a basic idea of what im looking at before the course starts. I love building anything i can get my hands on computers use some of the most delicate touch out of anything I’ve worked on, alongside the most care and thought about not blowing up the parts just by touching them. Ive worked on cars and for certain jobs you just take a crowbar to it, ive worked on houses and for the most part a crowbar is always near by but i cant find it around my computer. Or the fact that my dumbass has never given a thought about static coming off me and frying my pc when i break it open to have a look or clean it (which is due soon ) thank you for the video i subbed, hope you dont mind if i use some of your videos as a cheat sheet or reference to material.
Thanks for the sub. I think and hope you will enjoy the rest of this series -- and other videos here. No problem using them as a "cheat sheet", this channel is widely used in education. :)
The clarity of your video is supreme. I could easily read the numbers on the chip. Great information supplied as well.
Crisp clear video close ups.
Very smart looking motherboard.
Chris, I'm very impressed with the sharp focus and resolution of your video camera. The close-ups of your motherboard are fantastic. Very detailed, thank you.
2400 MHz memory will do fine but I recommend getting 2666 MHz or even 2800 MHz with the 2200G/2400G. 3000 MHz will work for most people but anything over 2933 MHz on first gen Ryzen is considered an overclock.
that is absolutely correct. but in a budget build the performance gain due to higher clock speeds on the RAM are marginal.
@TechNotesStuff APu s are 1gen behind the others 2200G is built on 14nm, 3200g is built on 12nm , but when the next APU come out? And why cant I Buy a 3400Ge at retail even 2400ge is invisible ?
This is just perfect, I was about to start buying components for a custom made PC for Linux and needed some guidance. Explaining Computers had a perfect timing, it saved me a lot of problems.
I just hate when the video ends. Such excellent content. And very helpful as I am planning to build a new computer based on the Ryzen series CPU architecture soon. I was a bit confused by the B350/B450 etc and what they were all about. Now I know! Thanks Explaining Computers!
To use a second gen Ryzen on a B350 chipset board you would have to update the BIOS. Which would require you to insert a first gen Ryzen, run the board, update the BIOS, then use your second gen chip. So it is a far better idea to get a 450 chipset board. :)
@@ExplainingComputers You have just saved me from a major catastrophe, and many other I am sure. :D
@@ExplainingComputers Why did you not hold out a few more months for the 3000 series Ryzen CPU's? They are said to have a significant CPU boost, and better graphics. More cores in all models also.
@@williambaldwin9346 At some point you just have to pull the trigger otherwise you'd be waiting for ever because there's always something better coming soon. As it is we might well see a follow-up where Chris updates the BIOS and installs a new processor.
@@ExplainingComputers Unless you are buying VERY old stock, even A320 motherboards will support a 2200G without a bios flash. Talking from experience last month. If for some reason its not updated, most local computer places will flash a newer bios for (Australian) $20. For a cheap build for someone that wont ever overclock, i would only ever suggest an A320. (think a parents PC or in my case, a VM box running pfSense (a router/firewall os), a xubuntu VM for downloads and also hosting a Unifi controller (for my Wireless access points)
Nice job on another very informative tech video. Just a couple of added notes, if you don't mind for new builders. 1) It's important to ensure that you don't touch the top of the CPU and if you do it must be cleaned with a lint-free cloth and some alcohol before attaching the CPU Cooler. You are always very careful with electronic components, but the new builder may not be as careful. 2) The DDR4 RAM modules need to be oriented correctly. An important thing to remember in building computers is - IF IT DOESN'T FIT DOEN'T FORCE IT! 3) You explained it clearly, but it would be easier if to check the CPU fan orientation, and change it if necessary, before installing it so you don't put undue pressure on the CPU socket. 4) One nice feature on the board you selected is that the Video Card socket also has some extra metal reinforcing around it, which is a very nice feature to have for new builders and enthusiasts'. Again; another nice video and I'm looking forward to video #2 in this series. P.S. In case someone does mess up the thermal compound on the CPU Cooler, it might be a good idea to touch on what to do if that happens.
Very good points to make. Thanks for posting.
I've built with both the 2200g and the 2400g, they are fantastic chips for the money. I can't say how much I appreciate your content and mannerisms.
Thanks for your kind feedback. Compared to high end chips from not that many years, the 2200G and 2400G are amazing as you note.
This channel is the most consistent regarding its video's content, taking into account today's youtube averrage videos layout/scheme its saying a lot. Keep up the good work and don't lose your retro flare.
I just got an Acer Nitro 5 with a Ryzen 2500U 2 weeks ago and I already ran Space Quest 3 on it. It amazes me how I first played this game on my PC/XT-compatible NEC V20-based PC back in the early 90's.. in *CGA!!* And now it runs great on both my Ryzen and my FX-8350.
I just love how AMD is the alternative CPU supplier of the PC world. No Intel for me.
Enjoy your new rig, good Sir.
Love this series. I can count on my hand the amount of videos available that go into DETAIL building a PC. Most tend to gloss over the steps and assume the viewer is thrilled with the montage. Thanks.
I'm an IT professional (backend and UXUI) and love your videos. They're so calm, informative, and enjoyable to watch. Looking forward to seeing you experiment with RGB! As you mentioned your previous RAM video, do you have a plan for a follow-up where you explain additional timings?
I took am looking forward to the RGB stuff. I've not got there yet, although the PC is now running fine now. :)
I love the pace of your videos. Slower than most but not too slow. Just very calming to listen to and I don’t feel intimidated because it’s easy to keep up
Nice stage 1 build Chris, can't wait for stage 2. Well done 👍
Dear Chris, I watch your videos each week without fail, and find them both entertaining and reliably informative.
But what practical benefit do you get from this effort. No doubt you have had some master plan in mind all along. Keep up the good work. Kind regards, Peter.
Thanks for this. :) I get the practical benefit of earning my living -- I am pretty much a full-time UA-camr now, being paid advertising revenue from Google.
Excellent Christopher..... you are like a child opening a birthday present....I know the feeling!
Nothing like new computer components....I like the smell of them.... roll on part 2!
But it's always tinged with that nagging doubt.... will it run? Or might it be one of those buggy computers that never quite works right. Doesn't happen often, but does still happen.
I say, well done! Filming on the white backdrop top down at normal speed with commentary, great video! Your the first video that's given me confidence that I can build my own computer with your clear easy to follow instructions.
Good luck with your build.
RGB lighting on a Chris Barnatt PC? What universe am I living in?
🤣The one where Chris has learned to adapt to the trend. A little bit of excitement for everyone.
Has he adapted to the trend, or conceded to it?
the answer to his question is obviously: The correct one!
@@psycholocke4090 yep, I'm very happy and excited to share the same and correct universe. 😋
rgb makes your computer faster idiot
I love your detailed explanations. Zooming the camera to show each part makes all the difference for understanding. I always watch your videos here in Brazil.
Thanks for watching! :)
I think everyone loves a pc build tutorial
This is a brilliant breakdown video! Reminds me of all the parts of the motherboard. After all, if you don't muck around with motherboards often, one can tend to forget the 'little' things. Thanks for putting this series together...
A few months ago I upgraded my PC with all new components including a Ryzen 5 2600 6 core and an MSI motherboard. My motherboard also has LED capability so looking forward to that video. In the meantime, this series I will be checking to see if there is anything I can improve on my recent upgrade. Some of us are just born to tinker, I do the same with my 3D Printers etc, even my router got the tinker treatment. Nothing is out of bounds in my house :-)
If you want to upgrade your toaster, check out Colin Furze.
@@bigjoeangel :-) Yeah I sub to Colin too and saw that, he does some awesome stuff.
More RGB equals higher clocks speeds for your CPU.
Don't forget to add RGB to your Ram, SSD, AIO radiator, and power supply. Adding RGB to your power supply will take a 500 watt and turn it into a 800 watt. Matter of fact everywhere you can put RGB you can expect reasonable performance increase. Your PC should be blinking and strobe lighting like the sun for optimal performance.
@@bradmundies425 I'm not sure it's true that RGB LEDs increase power lol. But that don't mean I won't :-)
The quality / context / dialogue of the video, fantastic graphics, it makes building a PC from parts a doable exercise by anyone. This series could be used in schools for STEM learning / doing
Many thanks for your kind feedback.
This is great professor! Iv been looking to build a pc to help my son start a youtube channel for his birthday and this seems perfect
I've built too many computers to remember, yet I watch this for the Zen of Chris. Very relaxing yet exciting, which is a strangely addictive state of mind. Looking forward to the next part for sure.
Nice video. Everything explained clearly and nothing glossed over. Looking forward to the next installment. 😀
Was cool to watch you nerd out over the new parts. It's always nice unboxing new tech!
That CPU is really something, my first build was a Z80, 40pin DIL! Really looking forward to the next installments, hopefully very soon! Bob
Part Two uploads next Sunday, ending with a working PC.
ExplainingComputers does a Ryzen PC build. Fantastic! I've done a Ryzen 5 and 7 build as a noob, but this series is going to be great to improve my learning, thanks ec!
HOLEY UNDERWEAR! What a smart-looking MoBo/CPU/DDR4 combination! I'll have to start putting together some pesos to replace my old AM3 based computer _very soon._
The pacing is perfect, as is the presentation overall. I could listen to Chris for hours. Really top-notch stuff. Newly subbed.
Many thanks -- and welcome aboard! :)
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks, Chris. It's been about thirteen years since my last barebones PC build, so I'm a little bit behind the curve with some of the newer developments. I've got a couple of new projects in mind for the near future, though, and I can already see that your channel is going to cover all the key bases to get me back on top of my hardware game.
@@ExplainingComputers And on a separate note, a quick question: I often allow UA-cam adverts to run their full course (rather than clicking on 'Skip Ads' at the earliest opportunity), on the assumption that doing so will increase ad revenue for the creator. Am I correct in thinking that? I particularly like that your content is not littered with advertising, and that is a greater incentive for me to let the full adverts play at the beginning and end of the video.
Nice one Ryzen are doing well for the budget PC builds
Yes they are indeed, I'm using the 2200g in my build when it arrives with the rest of the parts
At this point in time the 2700x is the best performance cpus as the intel prices are really... Shitty... In my country the i7 9700k is 120 dollars more then the 2700x and the i9 9900k is about double that or 250 dollars more then the 2700x... It sucks for people who were thinking of a good i7 build...
@Martin Chaush i know it can be overclocked more easily and higher then the ryzen cpus but the price dosent cut it for me and probably most people... Also to get an actual good overclock you would need a good water loop or at least a top of the line aio...
I found a Ryzen build for 200 doollars
Martin Chaush some parts are in Newegg and amazon. Usually the Amazon parts are ram
thanks for doing a true budget build. Too many channels claim to be making budget builds but they end up costing $1000
Just theoretical here, I was looking in cex at pc parts;
R5 1600x £130
Gtx 1060 £150
Generic gigabyte mobo £40-50, let’s say 50
Ram: Corsair vengeance 8gb £50
Storage: 1tb hdd £20
That’s £400 which is incredibly cheap for its performance
This guy is in the opposite spectrum of "Linus, the drama king". Educational, to the point and informative.
Absolutely love your videos. I reckon I've been doing the rounds building PCs as long as you have (same age probably) and you do explain things in a very easy to understand and pleasant manner.
After building my PCs with intel CPUs after I moved over to the Pentium III, later Pentium IV and onwards from the AMD K6-III I was very surprised by the performance of the newer AMD Ryzen chips. A lot better price/performance ratio when it comes to your wallet. :) I chose a Ryzen7 2700x about a year ago and I have been very happy with all the threads it has. Especially in Linux it's amazing doing a compile in the back ground while still using the system. Or in Windows editing and rendering while still use it for web browsing. Or just let it rip through a video file encoding it. I love how Intel and AMD are competing for the user's attention. Actually prefer the pins on the CPU and the way the cooler mounts on AMD boards over the Intel sockets. A bent pin on the CPU is easily recovered but a bent pin in a socket isn't.
Remember the old Pentium II cpu's with their slot interface. The best thing with those was the Heatsink and fan were all on the module. Very easy to install. I remember back with the 386 DX40 boards the CPU was built onto the motherboard. Come to think of it I don't think I ever actually used that board and just went from my SX 25 straight to a 486.
I actually repaired a Gigabyte H110 board after a bent pin and only got it working after resetting the CMOS. I'm unsure what happened but it looked like some sort of debris got under the pins (without me ever taking the CPU out, go figure) and in my attempt to remove it, ben a pin. I managed to repair it with a magnifying glass and a sewing needle. I didnt get it perfect but once I installed the CPU it aligned itself, I dunno how or why.
That said.... I've bent pins on the Socket 939 chips before too, or one of them anyway. WAY WAY easier to fix than that single pin on the H110.
Dawg i love explaining computers not just because of the videos but he goes into the comets and corrects and explains even more like a real G
Thanks. I try! :)
ExplainingComputers going RGB..... It's just getting out of control. Give me Beige and wood trim.
Give us RGB, or give us death! No matter how much people hate on us, we will always have our rainbow puke!
@@toxiccan175 When you see that PC with wood grain you'll truly know what the "Turbo" button is all about. Join me and together we will rule the x86 landscape!
Clint? Is that you? #LGR #WOODGRAIN4EVA
I still have my old beige AT (not ATX) full tower unit.
Power supply at the top, motherboard at the bottom, cd drive & tape drive at the top...
And 90cm ide/scsi cables stretched to a limit!
I like to light some candles and place them inside my case to set the mood.
Wow, three appearings for Stanley the knife in one video. What a hero!
Thanks Chris for the nice video. We hear a lot of negative talks on AMD based PCs on UA-cam. Hope your work proves it is no more than myths.
Looks like a decent build! Also fan of Gigabyte boards, but I don't mind Asus as well. Currently I have a full ATX monster but will never go that way again. Nowadays I prefer mATX or even ITX. I don't mind having 2 DIMMs instead of 4, since 16Gb of RAM is all I need right now. Maybe 32 in the future, but this will fit just nicely in 2 DIMMs with 16 Gb per DIMM. I also learned to appreciate power efficiency of newer components - it's something you get to appreciate when living on your own for a significant period of time.
When paying for your own electric... You do appreciate less energy going in heat waste, lower temps etc. Also means more reliability when running for long periods of time.
Oh man...you need to post these videos at the same time! Such a tease! I can't wait for the rest in the series!....Very awesome stuff. Reminds of of the good ol' days when the small company I worked for built all servers from scratch. I might just have to take on this build myself.
I'm currently working on the edit of Part Two. An extensive video, that ends with a powered-up PC. Will upload this Sunday. :)
extremely excited for the next video in this series
I'd like to thank you for this video series! I took a few liberties with the hardware, and built with the following specs: Ryzen 5 3600 6-core processor x 12, a Radeon Rx 570, 8gb, Gibabyte B450M DS3H, 600 W PSU, and 16 GB Ram (V-Color Prism RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200MHz). The entire build cost less than $550, took about a day to put together, and we loaded Ubuntu 18.04LTS from a thumbdrive (took less than 30 minutes to install, update, and configure). We're now getting a glmark2 Score of 11663. We are VERY happy with the build, and this series was instrumental. Thank you.
This is great to hear -- a fantastic build you have done there, which I am sure will serve you well. Thanks for sharing your feedback.
@@ExplainingComputers 3 years later, she's been upgraded with: an NZXT case, an Asus Tuf Gaming X570 Plus mobo, and a GTX 1080 founders edition. The upgrade paths you've given us are innumerable, and I thank you! The Ryzen 5, PSU and RAM are all that's original in this "PC of Theseus." Also, happy to report the b450M is enjoying life with my daughter at university, and serving her well.
That is a beautifully laid out motherboard. Kudos to the engineers at Gigabyte.
I agree.
I was surprised when shopping around for motherboards around 70-90 USD as there were quite a few B450M ones (mid range chipsets) which had a ton of features and seemed quite user friendly. I ended up going for a MSI B450M Gaming Plus, and it's a awesome little board!
r5-1600 / b350 / rx480 user here, i think it's a mighty fine piece of kit
great lighting on the close up shots by the way :)
I'm quite excited for this one! So happy to see Linux!
How motherboards have changed. I am genuinely impressed by this board and the variety of connections. My first desktop was a 25MHz 486SX with 8MB RAM and 240MB IDE HDD.
This has an SSD slot and 4 SATA III ports. It’s just mind boggling.
Many thanks, Christopher. Should I consider building a PC in the future, I shall definitely be referring to your videos for recommended component parts.
AMD's Ryzen Integrated Graphics sure do have similar performance to a NVIDIA GTX 750. ;)
Quite impressive for integrated graphics, honestly.
Yes, it is amazing what can be achieved with integrated graphics these days.
A better comparison is the GT1030, or the RX550, both of which are for sale currently, rather than being 5 years old. Neither of which are gaming cards, but are suitable for upgrading Intel iGPU PC. These days, 1080p 'light' gaming is expected. Frankly, not all that impressed when a discrete, passively cooled, low-profile budget GPU can routinely beat Vega 8. That puts it just about where AMD integrated graphics have always been, starting with the (ATI) X300 about 15 years ago.
@Rob_Semi-Nerdly Good points. I guess I was looking at the comparison between Vega graphics and an obsolete and much unloved GPU from years past. The fact the commenter chose an NVidia card, rather than AMD (which I found a current-gen one that benches fairly closely as a comparison) seemed more than a bit specious. Yes, let's give props to AMD for creating a desirable product, but not go out of our way to find meaningless comparisons to artificially buoy up the product. But my main point is the Vega graphics is not revolutionary or break-through, merely evolutionary, keeping up with Moore's law and nothing more. The real loss is not moving beyond 1080p as *the* mainstream resolution about 4-5 years ago.
Wow. What an amazing series of videos. The best thing that you did is ACTUALLY explain stuff. It is a good guide to learn about computers and build them.
Thanks for your kind feedback, appreciated. :)
He is what i imagine my self being at his age. LOVE IT. :) Tech is Love Tech is Life.
I have built my 1st pc with Ryzen dirty cheap but very good workhorse.
Ryzen 1600X for 130$, Motherboard ASRock 50$, RX 570 4gb 180$, 8gb ddr4 3000 happy as pup. Ryzen CPUs are so underrated and in shadow by INTEL but people are finally noticing.
Nice motherboard but I bought this one: MB ASRock B450M Pro4. It has 4 Ram slots, 2 M.2 slots, 2 PCI-X slots - one 16 gen 3 and gen 2 16x and also has a usb c 3.1 gen 2 port. Otherwise everything is lovely. Great explanation for people that have not delved into modern buiding of PCs! Kudos to you!
Very professional presentations. I love the Gigabyte MBs. I've used several over the years
Thanks for this , I have selected these parts on my Amazon list. My wife's parents are needing a new computer soon, this will be great! Keep up the cool videos
Good luck with your build. :)
Can't wait till part 2. I personally will always get 4 DIMM slots for upgrade opportunities in the future.
maximum 512gb per dimm, don't think you need 4 slots ;)
I opt for full size ATX for this reason alone, especially when it usually is a few pounds more.
@@toysareforboys1 it's more economical to upgrade with smaller dimms as they aren't nearly as expensive as the higher capacity ram options.
All that's missing is the smell of those brand new components. You've got me hooked.
Mr Scissors AND Stanley The Knife. Great video!
Looking forward to the rest of this series. I enjoyed building a PC so much I did another one 6 months later!
@ 5:30 you bent one of the processor pins by dumping it out on the hard surface!
I was wondering if anyone else saw this!! Hehe!
It's on the bottom right of CPU you showed....
Yes, but bent back. Not bent on that drop I think, but there were multiple takes using the chip for a range of videos, so it was handled a lot. I did say not to do as I did! :)
@@ExplainingComputers It's probably worth noting that all AMD processors have the disadvantage that these pins are EXTREMELY delicate, and careful handling is imperative if ZIF is to be attained. Yes, each pin can be gently eased back into position, but careless handling can make this a daunting task if many pins, or - perish the thought - less accessible pins than those on the edge are bent.
@@trisstock9047 I like it. You have to be very careful during a build. The first thing I do in a build is put in the CPU. It is exciting, and actually really easy if you handle the CPU carefully. I have bent a pin before and was able to bend it back but this was during some later GPU swap. The mother boards are cheaper in part because of this form factor as well. I consider any AMD build a gamble with a great payoff in performance vs $$$. I've had phenomenal luck. Knock on wood.
Alas someone who doesn’t rush with the build and shows all the features and stuff! Yeah, the experienced of us know a lot of the information provided, but for younger enthusiasts it may get handy. And I love the british accent :)
Oh, and there’s no music! thumbs up
Oh, I thought it's well worth mentioning that those USB 3.1 ports are in fact gen1, so 5 Gbit/s instead of 10 Gbit/s on 3.1 gen2. It is really confusing, I know. This is marketing again for you, making it seem you have faster ports, but instead it's basically the same as USB 3.0, just renamed to fool people...
6:14 pin bend - bottom-right. As always clean and awesome video.
Yes, but fixed. :)
Is that a bent pin above the gold triangle on that APU?
i thought I saw 2 bent pins....flipping it over was not such a good idea.
@@LeighHaines The pins are not that fragile. It was probably bent before it was packaged.
D: I thought you were joking. I hope those 2 were straightened before the APU was mounted.
Most of PGA processors i've worked with use to come with some pins like that, I don't know if is because of poor packaging or whatever, but they always fit in the socket without a problem, if they don't drop in the socket don't ever use force, and when you lock them in the socket the pin is straightened.
@@crimsun7186 actually because it fell and if it landed first on the corner pins the mass of the chip and acceleration of gravity can surprisingly create a lot of energy especially if its focused in a small spot. CPU and other IC products QC is very strict and i doubt bent pins would ever make it through missed. And if you go to before he flpped it. Its hard to tell for sure but it looks like that no pins and specifically the one by the triangle were not bent previous to flipping it.
Just ordered the B450 Pro M2 so this was an eyeopener , fried the bios in the first computer I built in 2010 , this'll be the 2nd ( and hopefully last ) Only gaming is chess & solitaire ( video editing & play around with Blender & Unreal Engine ) so hoped Ryzen 3 3200 & 16 gigs of Corsair will be enough. JUST learned about M.2 Nvme last week , 500 Gb Western for 70 usd , pinching pennies right now ! As always Chris , a joy to listen to your teaching , stay safe & many happy builds
Good luck with your build. I think that you will find a 3200G and 16GB RAM very capable for what you describe. Try maybe Kdenlive for video editing.
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks Chris , that's reassuring
hopefully Stanley the knife has a Phillips head screwdriver in it
Thanks for your most helpful series on the Ryzen Build. I am typing this on my new build which has worked perfectly from the start despite a few pitfalls. One was an accidental purchase of an ATX motherboard instead of a mini-ATX board, resulting in my having to order a second-larger case. But the larger board has extra SATA ports, a USB-c port, and most importantly, WIFI, as my home is not wired for Ethernet cabling. Now, with an extra, mini-ATX case lying about, I think that I will build another PC for my sister, this time sticking closer to your specifications. My only trial has been to get Linux Mint to run, for the USB key I created only boots to a blank screen. Thanks again!
Great to hear this. Hope you got Linux Mint sorted. You may need to make some BIOS changes.
ExplainingComputers : Yes, I have tried to make some bios changes including the boot order, boot disk type, however I haven’t tried to update the bios itself as of yet. So, I will keep trying. I have set up a dual boot on my six year old Samsung all-in-one with Linux Mint and I was so delighted that I seriously had considered making it my only operating system. Thanks to you I’ve finally got the Linux bug!
Some extra tidbits:
If you have a cooler from the AM3/AM3+ socket (phoenom 2/FX), those clips he removed are there to let you reuse the old cooler. It should be more than sufficient for the cooler Ryzens.
I'm using XPG Gaming D10 RAM from Adata (the 3000 speed) and it works swell for $100.
The X370 and B350 motherboards are very cheap, as are the older first-gen Ryzens. (I have a 1700x and ASRock X370 Gaming X) I don't know if they still do this, but for a while AMD offered to send people loaner CPUs so they could update the BIOS to run the newer chips.
That was one thing, when they released the Ryzen 2000 series CPU's, they still only sold B350 mobos, which was fine if you already had an older AMD CPU, but if you were making a new build, a Ryzen 2000 series CPU wouldn't work in a B350 board unless you made sure the place you ordered the B350 motherboard from had already updated the BIOS for the 2000 series CPU's, You think they'll release B550 motherboards when they release the Ryzen 3000 series, or will it be the same again?
@@lmcgregoruk they'll release the chipset at the same time, but how many motherboards have it at release is not anything I can answer with certainty.
I would hope so, though. It's one reason I always want to have my trusty 1700x around even if I upgrade. Never know which friend I might have to loan it to for a UEFI update
OUSTANDING!!! loved every second of this one ! and i love the colour of the ram and motherboard ! its all coming together so nicely ... off to watch some more ! thanks !
When he dropped the CPU at desk my hearth just skipped a beat
Sorry about that. I did say not to do it! :) I was trying to minimise my fingers in shot.
@@ExplainingComputers You should have dropped it onto some polyester shag for extra excitement. LOL
Probably an imitation of the Linus Tech Tips method, where, among other things, Linus dropped and damaged a US $10,000 Xeon Platinum 8180 Processor. Now, we'll all have to start doing it.
I've not seen that Linux Tech Tips video. See my pinned comment. :) I am very certain that tipping the chip down a few mm did not damage the pins.
and he bent a pin as a result. luckily they're more durable than people think.
Dear Chris, I made my first built of desktop computer according to your explanations. It was a great experience. Everything went well. I used Gigabyte B450M DS3H board with Ryzen 3200G CPU (which according to my research replaced 2200G). I had a few small "glitches" in the parts selection and building process: 1. The board needed a BIOS update for the CPU I selected. Hopefully the company I bought the parts warned me about and performed the update (free of charge) as I didn't want to mess things (I wanted to keep with your explanations). 2. I had no idea how much to tighten the screws of the CPU fan. I didn't want to damage the motherboard or the CPU. But after some research I succeeded. At the end I had my computer with M.2 disk with Windows 10 (as I mostly get angry with the slow speed of this OS) and alongside another 2.5 SSD with Ubuntu 20.04 (my favorite OS). Unfortunately I didn't succeed to clone my previous HDDs (I think because my new drives were smaller in capacity than what I had and I don't have so much understanding about partitions, etc.) and I made clean installations. I have some difficulties to find drivers for the integrated Radeon graphics for Ubuntu (I have some graphical "glitches" when using browsers, some horizontal lines that appear randomly) but except this everything works very well, very fast. Thank you!
Great to hear of your experiences -- glad it all worked out! :)
You really can't beat the bang for buck you get from Ryzen, amazing chipset.
Very true.
Amazing presentation skills. I have been building my own desktop computers for over 15 years so nothing here is new but you did a good job keeping my attention.
Thanks. :)
even though i know all of this stuff. i still enjoy just listening/watching anyhow ehehe
Same here. Chris is a brilliant teacher.
yeah very good that's the main reason. some times i do learn the odd new thing which is nice.
Likewise :)!!
it's lovingly made
same.. looked at the video and see Windows and linux with b450 in it... guess I shouldnt have bought an am4 asrock motherboard... they dont support any versio of linux.
so now I'm on my 2nd week putting a pc together when it shoulda taken a day :-\ had I known all the problems with amd shit I would have never tried them out.... (never touched amd before) but in the end run win10 will fix my prob :-\
Thanks for a wonderful and clearly explained guide to building Ryzen computer. As always, you do a wonderful job of explaining the "whys" along with the "hows". As I am looking forward to the next installment in the project. Keep up your awesome work!
It's not everyday you build a PC. Exciting as frick!
The processor is happily installed, Thank you for clear instructions sir.
Thanks! I'm sure you noticed pins but always really helpful to get so many notification/posts about it LOL
This could tempt me to continue saving towards a Ryzen build. Excellent explanation.
I love how professional these videos are!
Thanks.
Takes me back to the mid 80s when I built my first PC. The fun of working out the settings on the motherboard and settings in the BIOS. Last computer I built was 8yrs ago. Now I just Frankenstein laptops. Apple or windows. These days its a lot easier to build a PC than it was. And price differences from building your own or buying one isn't much. But its still fun to build your own