Since I made this video, I have read a report of a theoretical security risk in the firmware updater included in many Gigabyte motherboards, including the one in this build: eclypsium.com/blog/supply-chain-risk-from-gigabyte-app-center-backdoor/ However, no exploitation of this risk has been reported, and Gigabyte have issued an advisory with a BIOS update fix: www.gigabyte.com/Press/News/2091 I have personally also disabled “APP Center Download” in the BIOS, which stops the updater running. See the video description for instructions on how to do this (scroll down to “IMPORTANT”).
Hm wouldn't the cpu cooler from the old system fit onto the plastic bracket that the motherboard has mounted ? Also if you are going too remove the stock cooler too try it out, twist after unscrewing it fully & removing the backplate from the motherboard. The stock thermalpaste easily has enough tackyness too lift the whole weight of the motherboard even without it being screwed into place. So it will rip out the processor with it if you just pull upwards. Lifted my full atx size motherboard here myself with ram installed & ssd dangling by the sata cable no problem, only too look down & see the cpu backplate laying on top of the motherboard box & me realising it was held in place by thermalpaste & the processor socket in the air.
Thank you for addressing this potential security issue if left unattended. I really love your suggestions for budget builds where appropriate (90% of home computer needs). That OS looks good. I am going to try it with my x370, and a rx 480. I still have 32GB of EVGA 3200 DDR4 on the motherboard. I still have my 3600X which I may use that Gigabyte MB for some type of automated home controller.
Oh boy. One shouldn't have to worry about stuff like that. I had to update my motherboard's bios because Windows 11 wasn't detecting the TPM properly which I don't understand it was a fairly recent manufacture. Once I did the bios update, everything was fine. And luckily I didn't come across any issues with backdoors and such when I was researching the issue I was having with the TMP. I don't get how a company can mess up the bios TPM when it's been around for a while now. It's an MSI motherboard though not a Gigabyte.
Old people are slow, that is what you meant by Golden Standards, most people only care for Bottlenecking issues, old people do APU crap, more then enough, muhahahaha. Why not use the iPhone for that ?
Christopher's video was the first I learnt that "you can put PC's together?!" cool, all the way back when I was 9. Still fun to watch it, same quality, same pace, same clarity.
It's so refreshing to watch a PC build where the focus is assembling a reasonable & reliable system rather than extreme overclocking, water cooling, and RGB lighting madness. I don't need another system right now, but your video tempts me to build one anyway just for fun!
For the majority of people who do not have hardware/software certificates this clip is very good value for money. Building a new computer to me is akin to building something out of LEGO. This is what i always tell people. It is not complicated. This clip shows that it is not. Snap the pieces in like lego and go. Even the OS is now a simple matter of booting up with it in the drive . As long as the system passes POST and the disk is in the drive the rest is easy.
am building a system right now just for fun but it's a 2007 motherboard - so I do my parts shopping mostly on ebay instead of Amazon. My 3GHz single core CPU cost me $10 :-) But now I need to locate a PCI express video card suitable to that vintage era...
@@TheSulross I have a system named "Cash" because I got it just like Johnny Cash's car ... "I got it one piece at a time, and it didn't cost me a dime..."
Yes! I love your build videos, Chris. I've learned you're pragmatic, your build videos are a rare treat because you don''t build for the sake of it. They are always excellent, some of my favorite content you do. It's refreshing to watch someone experienced build from a practical mindset, as opposed to most of the over-the-top builds on UA-cam that get disassembled after the video is made.
Long time listener, first time caller. This channel is a gem, and I'm so glad it exists. It's always hard to know exactly how powerful of a computer to buy, because if you go for the top then you really gotta shell $$$ out, but then if you go for the previous gen you worry about being able to play whatever games.
Brilliant video Chris! It had everything! Mr. Scissors, Stanley the Knife, Mr. Screwdriver and even explosions! PC build videos are always interesting, and your presentation is excellent. Keep it up!
Yes, these are tops. I have a old used pc (2013).USB 2.0 only. Thanks to Explaining Computers I have bought a USB adapter that plugs into a PCI slot that thought it does not give me USB 3.0 speeds is much faster than USB 2.0. Thanks
One little bit of advice. When installing a component which has a connector, wiggle the component (or connector, if it is separate) a little bit. Use a reasonable bit of force, but of course, not so much as to bend or risk damaging the component. Occasionally, you'll hear a little 'snap', indicating that something wasn't quite seated properly before the wiggle. But even if that doesn't happen, the wiggle just helps to ensure that all the joints in the connector are making good electrical contact. (Also, I'm quite glad Chris didn't become a pilot :-)
While I think it's great that prices have come down for components, I can't help but shed a tear when I think of how much I paid for a lot of the same components when I built my PC back at the end of 2021; most notably with GPUs. My final build ended up over $1,000, and half of that came from the GPU alone; I paid over $500 for an RX 590 at the time. I couldn't afford the card I originally wanted at the time, an RX 6600, because it was more than what I could pay. Ironically, that same card is now in my PC, and I bought it last October for less than $250!
I paid $30 above MSRP for my 6600 in March 2022. It now has problems where the fans run constantly, and keep up a racket. I’m going to have to use my warranty. The real kick in the crotch is that I found another 6600 a couple of weeks ago for $179.99.
When you build or test a PC, it would be very useful to know the idle power consumption of the system. Why? Because computers spend most of their time at idle, so idle power is what mostly determines the overall running cost and so circulating this information is financially and environmentally useful. Excellent video, as usual, by the way.
Your PC build videos have been an absolute delight to watch, and I've learned so much from them. The way you explain each component and guide us through the assembly process is both informative and engaging. It's clear that you have a deep knowledge of PC hardware, and your expertise shines through in every video. Moreover, I wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your mini PC videos as well. It's fascinating to see how much power and functionality can be packed into such a compact form factor. Given my enthusiasm for both PC builds and mini PCs, I kindly request you to consider creating more content on these topics. Whether it's showcasing the latest and greatest components for PC builds or exploring new mini PC models, I'm certain that your expertise and presentation style would continue to captivate the audience. Perhaps you could even delve into comparisons between different mini PC models, highlighting their unique features and use cases. Thank you once again for the incredible content you provide.
It's been a long time since I've built a computer and I'm finding out from this video how many things have changed. I think the last one I built was about 15 years ago or more. I like watching your videos because you do it slowly and explain a lot of things, Thumbs up for you.
Yes, we are back to the trend of this modern era -after the parts shortage hiccup- in which we can say we're having the best of times in our computing lives value-wise.
I build and fix PCs for a living, So I don't really need to watch channels like this, for education purposes. But I enjoy watching particularly when I have no build jobs on you could say I'm addicted to the new build aspect of PCs. For instance, it helps me stop buying PC parts and building PCs I have no home for just to satisfy my need to build. What I like about this channel its building without all the fluff and childish nonsense you find on most other channels. I would and have recommended Explaining Computers to some of my customers because although I can build and rehear PCs, I don't have the patience or the required delivery skills to explain all the ins and outs. Top job keep up the good work.
I could watch you explain things all day. Wish you were my teacher at school so many years ago. I might have done better than I did at that time. Check the prices we have to pay for pc parts in Australia I think you would be shocked at what it would cost us to use the same parts here. What you quoted seems remarkably cheap to me. Keep up the great work with your videos they are very much appreciated by everyone that sees them.
Wow, 16 Gb for 30 quid. When I was still at school the price of RAM was around £100 per Mb! At that time, my nerdy friends and I were agog that they were going to make memory with a whole Mb on a SINGLE CHIP! How times change.
I built my PC with all those parts but I had to do a lot of research. If only I had seen this video before, the construction would have been easier for me. Either way, this PC is great and works perfectly for me. It is very good and the cost is excellent for someone who does not have much of a budget.
If you don't need sata ports or pcie slots, the genmachine 7730u mini pc offers virtually equivalent cpu and graphics performance, lower tdp and same price.
Thanks for such an educational video. I love the close-up shots, very good lighting and detail, I learn a lot with your videos and the computer is very good.
Good basic assembly video, it doesn't have to be complex. 5600G makes a great 'office box' PC with a bit of graphics clout. For the difference I would now use a 1Tb SSD as it is only a few £££s more , using Solidigm P41+ drives atm, they update the firmware to optimise performance from their management tool.
That 16GB of memory went in smoothly, but the last time I built a PC a couple of years ago I really had to jam it in. I hate how you have to stress the motherboard to do that. I wish it was as easy to put in as the CPU -- so simple, drop in and pull the lever!
I recently build two new PC with AMD 4600G, a bit cheaper but for my goals enough power. Both mobo where Gigabyte, one A520 and one A550. The 520 is mini ITX and has 64GB 3200. The 550 has 32GB 3000. Same brand and specs as your build. The reason for the 3000 is that I already had two sticks of 8GB each so I bought two more coming to 32GB. Each PC runs Linux Mint 21 Mate and the 64GB one is for virtual box. Both will be my main computers, connected to my cloud. This gives me enough for the next years, put more than enough of 1TB drives in there as well and have drive bay's to be able to do some testing with other distro of GNU-Linux.
I like your approach of going for the 'reasonable' rather than 'high end' side of the performance spectrum... If gaming is not a priority, this system should do its job nicely for the next couple of years, for a manageable budget. One question though: would that system meet Windows 11 requirements? Thanks a lot for your time and efforts, and have a relaxing Sunday! :)
@@ExplainingComputers Interesting I was going to bet given the age of the processor that this was not going to be the case, but it makes a build like this more interesting! some of us are still firmly in windows 10 land i have 3 daily driver PCs that will not run windows 11 because their cpus are not on the list. They are all capable machines. I think i would probably see if i could find a motherboard with more memory slots given that i have ddr4 memory that i can recyle and my main work machine has 32gb which isnt enough! Having 3 machine to upgrade if i can recycle the ssds and some of the memory then thats good. Given that everyone will be doing the same old motherboards, cpus and ddr3 memory with are all non windows 11 stuff will be worth very little! and i have to use windows for work!
@@stevewhitcher6719 As time has moved on, processors not able to support Windows 11 are now typically about 5 years old. And the 5600G is less than two. :)
@@ExplainingComputers Good point! I did buy the Ryzen 5 CPU that you suggested but paired it with the 4 memory slot version of the motherboard! Havent bought an AMD cpu since they did socket 7 ones! Will be interesting to see what its like!
I always use a CPU with onboard graphics even if I am adding in a graphics card. They are extremely useful when trying to debug problems. Additionally, people don't realize just how powerful these new chips are, especially if they aren't doing graphic intensive applications.
Excellent point on using onboard/integrated graphics. Last time I built a PC was... The Pentium 4 days... (Wow, has it been that long?) I'd build the entire machine except for upgraded graphics card, and use the onboard to check for a good boot sequence before adding "one more thing to go wrong." To be fair, this might be a holdover from Ye Olden Days of setting IRQs and DMA channels with jumpers...
@@dashcamandy2242 yeah, I remember the IRQ days. I started building computers in the late seventies when I had to wire wrap components to be able to run scrounged peripherals. Good times.
Let's see, we have... ✅ Mr. Scissors, Stanley the Knife, and even Mr. Screwdriver ✅ The word "swine" getting uttered during the I/O shield installation ✅ Ducks And finally, ✅ An explosive plane crash Yup, this build video truly has everything. Anyway, thank you so much for this one! It certainly looks like this provides a lot of bang for one's buck. Well done. 👏😁
I watched this with admiration. It was dreamlike in that all the plugs fitted into the appropriate sockets with no adaptors required. In my personal experience I seem to encounter problems with fan connectors (lol). 3 pin or 4 pin, or trying to run more fans than sockets allow for!! keepup the good work!!
I seems "budget build" is all about timing. If you were patient and actively watching online stores, you could get B560 motherboards for the same price for the month before the release of the 7000 series CPUs, and heavily discounted (50%-80%) 5000 series CPUs for about a month after said release. The bonus being some of the B560/B550 motherboards have enough RAM slots to support a 128GB configuration, while still being micro-ATX form factor.
This is excellent - an easy answer for the many people who ask every day what to get on a budget. 5600G is pretty decent for many games too - and I still consider building in a cheap metal box to be so much simpler than going with a laptop... obviously it also means you don't have to consider your Monitor, mouse or keyboard an integral part of the system... but then also there's a chance that you have to remember the built in camera/microphone/bluetooth too.
Chris another great video. Nice to see Mr Scissors ,Stanley the Knife and even Mr Screwdriver working! It is a very promising build as your luck seems the opposite of mine....:)! Nice to know that I am not the only gifted gamer. Have a nice day/Week.
CHRIS: The technical precision and the practical granularity of this, most instructive, "DIY Build", is remarkably impressive! (hence, these remarks) .. Really .. Top-notch and world-class! .. Your thoughtful efforts (in every respect) are , very much, appreciated. Thank You, Chris!
Please make sure you never find yourself piloting a real plane! I'm an experienced PC builder, but I really enjoyed your take on the process. Great job.
I got "spoiled" by AMD Athlon, FX series, opertorn and phenom processors over the years. The ones I had always worked with "onboard" video or with a graphics card. I thought that meant the motherboard had "onboard" video. When I bought a Ryzen processor and motherboard and the "onboard" video didn't work I thought it was defective so I ended up getting something else. This entire video explains the difference from the "old school" days where onboard video really MEANT there was an S3 virge or some such chipset on the motherboard, and NOW we have graphics IN the main CPU's. Wow I feel old!
I love your upgrade! Great video, I especially liked your system testing; "I'm not a gamer, oh no Mr. Bill pull up! That was not ideal. Love your sense of humor. Thank you for including the budget build with comparisons.
While I disagree with some components of this build, I cant help but appreciate the simplicity and comprehensable fashion that this video is arranged in. awesome!
If you're building something similar for yourself, keep in mind that the 5600G uses PCIE 3.0 instead of PCIE 4.0 compared to the 5600 so you may get some minor performance loss on your GPU depending on your CPU/motherboard selection
the a520 has limits, one of it is that same pci express 3.0, and in practice the only real problem it might offer is not handling well the new pci express 4.0 x4 gpus like the rx6400 or 6500
@@arch1107 from PCIE 3.0 to 4.0 only have a difference of 5~10 fps in almost all games ~ 🗿 please check the 5600x video that uses PCIE 3.0 and 4.0 slots on UA-cam
I just did a Ryzen budget(ish) build: Ryzen 5 5600G 16GB DDR4 @ 3200Mhz ASUS Tuf A520M Plus II XFX Qick RX 6750 XT 700W CIT FX Power Pro 80+ Bronze Already had SSD's, got 2 SATA 2.5 inch SSD's and one Gen 3 NVMe Total = £650...Which is crazy, coz I upgraded from a 3050 Ti Lenovo gaming laptop which cost the same price.
The red heatsinks for the corsair ram is so beautiful. I forgot about color choice when these were on sale a month ago. If you are going to do gaming with an nvme. You really want at least 2-4TB. For 500GB these days are usually just to run the OS. That's usually dedicated for sata ssd over an nvme. Nvme's are better off as gaming drives, or something that requires fast read and write. Also make sure the motherboard has more than one nvme port. Comes in handy when you need more space. When first doing an nvme drive. I could not believe how small the screw is. Going to use a thumbscrew next time.
I have that same APU but mounted on an a320m s2h v2 card, I also have 16 GB of ram, and a 120 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD. And everything working perfectly with Linux Mint.
Great video, clearly explained and demonstrated! I just picked up a secondhand mini PC based around a ryzen 3200g. It happily keeps up with day to day computing tasks and only cost 100 pounds! I certainly recommend looking out for second hand deals as other people are upgrading!
Built quite a few similar builds using the 5600g's for "family & friends" builds.A great little "all round chip".Be intresting to see the next gen apus perform. AM5 is still a non starter atm.
Thank you, Chris, for this great build video. I had been thinking of updating my 15 year old desktop, and this was the inspiration I needed. Very helpful in all details--and especially as I was connecting the mobo headers. I was grateful for the magic of your filmmaking as your magnification of the led polarities was so much better than my reading glasses! All components sourced from your Amazon storefront--happy to do that small bit for all the great content you provide. Kind regards.
It was a delicious computer assembly/build video with a simple explanation. I watched it with great pleasure, I was so immersed in myself that I felt as if I had assembled this computer. Thank you for this educational video.
11:30 I might have suggested that CB hold the APU on its side so we can clearly see the pins in profile - but quick viewers can get this view by pausing at exactly the right fraction of a second at 11:18 . I upgraded the PGA CPU on my first PC (an HP desktop with a 633 MHz Celeron -> 850 MHz P-III) over 20 years ago, then built a couple of homebrew desktops with PGA CPUs (late 32bit and very early 64bit AMD CPUs), so those are familiar. Looking forward to seeing one of those new LGA CPUs in an upcoming video, if CB hasn't done one yet.
Very good mid-level machine. Back in 2020 I built almost the same system, except with a Gigabyte A510I AC mini-ITX board and a Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G APU in a book-sized Inwin Chopin case. I used it for teleconferencing and professional software development at home during the COVID lockdown and liked it so much that I built a second, only changing the APU to a 5600G. Both are highly capable, responsive, silent, and rock-solid reliable, and they're still my main workstations for daily use today.
By coincidence I just built a Ryzen 9 7900 system, for about 4x the price. Much quicker but not 4x quicker. There is a strong economic argument for trailing edge. But, £200 of that was the case and PSU, so in reality, probably only 3x as much. I used a Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX which has a lot of IO capability and 32 Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 RAM. The SSD was a 1Tb Samsung 990 Pro. It is getting hard to find decent cases these days with 5.25 inch drive bays for an optical drive and without glass sides and multiple LEDs. I can see why you re-used the case and PSU.
I picked up a Ryzen 5600G 8 months ago on sale for $100 USD ($139 CAD here in Canada) to upgrade my HTPC's Ryzen 3 2200G. I didn't even really need the upgrade to be honest the 2200G still did the job but for $100 USD I figured why not it drops right into my B450 board and I said 8 months ago they'll probably never be this cheap again and it looks like I might be right. They're still crazy cheap but they've never been as cheap as they were when I bought mine. Once they start to dry up they'll rise in price just as the 3400G did. Now's the time to jump on AM4 if you're looking for this kind of a budget friendly platform.
i took the 5600g for my graphix rig but with a gigabytre 550m ds3h for the minitower. price for the ryzen was around 20eu more tho. my main music rig will get the 5700x after havin the 3400g used for 4 years now as a transition cpu before gettin a dedicated gfx card after 2years. saved me a lot money with that transition built concept. unfortunately the new amd socket system stopped it brutally^^
Recently ,MAY 2023, i upgade my rig: I had: An asus P8z77M with Z77chipset, Intel 3770 (NoN K), DDR3 32GB(4X8GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX@1600MHz, Samsung Evo SATA3 500GB, Seasonic S12G-650W, MSI Mech 2X RX 6700 XT I Upgrate my Mobo, CPU and RAM and i kept the rest of components: Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite V2 (125euros), AMD 5600(NoN X) (123euros), DDR4 32GB(2X16GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX@ 3200MHz(68Euros) of a total cost 316 euros. Prices are in Greece.
It's unfortunate that finding good quality cases with 5.25" bays is quite difficult nowadays. I much prefer having extra I/O potential than aesthetics.
One small correction at 2:36 - The newer Rzyen 7000 Series CPUs are APUs as well since all CPUs have an integrated graphics solution. None of the new CPUs have the "G" attached to it, which marked earlier Ryzen CPUs as integrated graphics. So what you said is true for Ryzen 1000 to 5000 series, it's not true for Ryzen 7000 series.
Sorry, but you are misrepresenting the content in the video. I pondered this issue greatly and worded things very accurately. What I stated on this matter is correct in all instances. For start, AMD does not label any released 7000 chips as APUs. Now certainly it could be argued (as you do) that they are APUs, as they include an iGPU and a CPU. But this is a dubious argument, as "APU" is a marketing rather than a technical term (Intel chips with a CPU and an iGPU are not APUs!). So if AMD are not applying the APU marketing label, there is no technical reason to apply it. But even more fundamentally, I chose to avoid even this argument. If you listen to what I actually said and wrote, in audio I stated that "Currently there are no G-suffix Ryzen 7000 APUs". And this is 100 per cent factually correct. And in the graphic, I wrote "Currently, there are no Ryzen "G" APUs". And again this is correct. What you seem to be stating is that I said that there were no Ryzen 7000 APUs -- and I never said or wrote this. I've been drafting technical and sometimes legal documents professionally for over 30 years, and know how to keep things accurate, even in linguistic quagmires like the one that AMD has created for us here. :)
Nice new computer build, your storage is too low (Even though this is a linux build). 500 gb today is considered nothing, you'll probably have that drive filled by the end of the week, files are so big today😮. Excellent video as usual. 😊 As Always, Be Smart and Stay Safe.
Since I made this video, I have read a report of a theoretical security risk in the firmware updater included in many Gigabyte motherboards, including the one in this build:
eclypsium.com/blog/supply-chain-risk-from-gigabyte-app-center-backdoor/ However, no exploitation of this risk has been reported, and Gigabyte have issued an advisory with a BIOS update fix: www.gigabyte.com/Press/News/2091
I have personally also disabled “APP Center Download” in the BIOS, which stops the updater running. See the video description for instructions on how to do this (scroll down to “IMPORTANT”).
Hm wouldn't the cpu cooler from the old system fit onto the plastic bracket that the motherboard has mounted ?
Also if you are going too remove the stock cooler too try it out, twist after unscrewing it fully & removing the backplate from the motherboard.
The stock thermalpaste easily has enough tackyness too lift the whole weight of the motherboard even without it being screwed into place.
So it will rip out the processor with it if you just pull upwards.
Lifted my full atx size motherboard here myself with ram installed & ssd dangling by the sata cable no problem, only too look down & see the cpu backplate laying on top of the motherboard box & me realising it was held in place by thermalpaste & the processor socket in the air.
Thank you for addressing this potential security issue if left unattended. I really love your suggestions for budget builds where appropriate (90% of home computer needs). That OS looks good. I am going to try it with my x370, and a rx 480. I still have 32GB of EVGA 3200 DDR4 on the motherboard. I still have my 3600X which I may use that Gigabyte MB for some type of automated home controller.
This was reported by Gamer's Nexus maybe a month ago
Oh boy. One shouldn't have to worry about stuff like that. I had to update my motherboard's bios because Windows 11 wasn't detecting the TPM properly which I don't understand it was a fairly recent manufacture. Once I did the bios update, everything was fine. And luckily I didn't come across any issues with backdoors and such when I was researching the issue I was having with the TMP. I don't get how a company can mess up the bios TPM when it's been around for a while now. It's an MSI motherboard though not a Gigabyte.
23:44 "I'm not a gamer"
Yes, you adequately demonstrated that fact with your aeronautical skills there. ;)
This is probably the gold standard for a PC build video. Everything was so patiently explained unlike other hardware channels. Well done Christopher!
Straight to the point without stupidly loud background music, long intro and an idiotic face in the thumbnail. What a breath of fresh air.
Well done 👍
Literally Explaining Computers. 😂
Old people are slow, that is what you meant by Golden Standards, most people only care for Bottlenecking issues, old people do APU crap, more then enough, muhahahaha. Why not use the iPhone for that ?
Christopher's video was the first I learnt that "you can put PC's together?!" cool, all the way back when I was 9.
Still fun to watch it, same quality, same pace, same clarity.
Totally agree. He is the best
It's so refreshing to watch a PC build where the focus is assembling a reasonable & reliable system rather than extreme overclocking, water cooling, and RGB lighting madness. I don't need another system right now, but your video tempts me to build one anyway just for fun!
Ha, I felt the same temptation, but I too shall resist... I haven't worn out the 'old' system yet. ;)
For the majority of people who do not have hardware/software certificates this clip is very good value for money. Building a new computer to me is akin to building something out of LEGO. This is what i always tell people. It is not complicated. This clip shows that it is not. Snap the pieces in like lego and go. Even the OS is now a simple matter of booting up with it in the drive . As long as the system passes POST and the disk is in the drive the rest is easy.
am building a system right now just for fun but it's a 2007 motherboard - so I do my parts shopping mostly on ebay instead of Amazon. My 3GHz single core CPU cost me $10 :-)
But now I need to locate a PCI express video card suitable to that vintage era...
@@TheSulross I have a system named "Cash" because I got it just like Johnny Cash's car ... "I got it one piece at a time, and it didn't cost me a dime..."
Yeah, we don't need the "lunisy" [sic] of a certain other (and more frenetic) PC building/modding channel here.
Yes! I love your build videos, Chris. I've learned you're pragmatic, your build videos are a rare treat because you don''t build for the sake of it. They are always excellent, some of my favorite content you do. It's refreshing to watch someone experienced build from a practical mindset, as opposed to most of the over-the-top builds on UA-cam that get disassembled after the video is made.
Long time listener, first time caller. This channel is a gem, and I'm so glad it exists.
It's always hard to know exactly how powerful of a computer to buy, because if you go for the top then you really gotta shell $$$ out, but then if you go for the previous gen you worry about being able to play whatever games.
Brilliant video Chris! It had everything! Mr. Scissors, Stanley the Knife, Mr. Screwdriver and even explosions! PC build videos are always interesting, and your presentation is excellent. Keep it up!
Yes, when I bring my car across the pond, I think I'll tour around with Chris in the BACK seat! :)
@@lesliedeana5142 I think you'll be fine as long as you're not flying with him! :)
Think the dad jokes need a bit of work personally....
Yes, these are tops. I have a old used pc (2013).USB 2.0 only. Thanks to Explaining Computers I have bought a USB adapter that plugs into a PCI slot that thought it does not give me USB 3.0 speeds is much faster than USB 2.0. Thanks
One little bit of advice. When installing a component which has a connector, wiggle the component (or connector, if it is separate) a little bit. Use a reasonable bit of force, but of course, not so much as to bend or risk damaging the component. Occasionally, you'll hear a little 'snap', indicating that something wasn't quite seated properly before the wiggle. But even if that doesn't happen, the wiggle just helps to ensure that all the joints in the connector are making good electrical contact.
(Also, I'm quite glad Chris didn't become a pilot :-)
Nice attention to detail. I particularly like the closeups of those fiddly little connectors at the bottom of the motherboard.
Thanks. :)
While I think it's great that prices have come down for components, I can't help but shed a tear when I think of how much I paid for a lot of the same components when I built my PC back at the end of 2021; most notably with GPUs. My final build ended up over $1,000, and half of that came from the GPU alone; I paid over $500 for an RX 590 at the time. I couldn't afford the card I originally wanted at the time, an RX 6600, because it was more than what I could pay. Ironically, that same card is now in my PC, and I bought it last October for less than $250!
Price changes in computing have been mad, and infuriating as you note.
PC GamePlayers must suffer 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Well, sarcasm of course.
I paid $30 above MSRP for my 6600 in March 2022. It now has problems where the fans run constantly, and keep up a racket. I’m going to have to use my warranty. The real kick in the crotch is that I found another 6600 a couple of weeks ago for $179.99.
When you build or test a PC, it would be very useful to know the idle power consumption of the system. Why? Because computers spend most of their time at idle, so idle power is what mostly determines the overall running cost and so circulating this information is financially and environmentally useful.
Excellent video, as usual, by the way.
Your PC build videos have been an absolute delight to watch, and I've learned so much from them. The way you explain each component and guide us through the assembly process is both informative and engaging. It's clear that you have a deep knowledge of PC hardware, and your expertise shines through in every video.
Moreover, I wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your mini PC videos as well. It's fascinating to see how much power and functionality can be packed into such a compact form factor.
Given my enthusiasm for both PC builds and mini PCs, I kindly request you to consider creating more content on these topics. Whether it's showcasing the latest and greatest components for PC builds or exploring new mini PC models, I'm certain that your expertise and presentation style would continue to captivate the audience. Perhaps you could even delve into comparisons between different mini PC models, highlighting their unique features and use cases.
Thank you once again for the incredible content you provide.
It's been a long time since I've built a computer and I'm finding out from this video how many things have changed. I think the last one I built was about 15 years ago or more. I like watching your videos because you do it slowly and explain a lot of things, Thumbs up for you.
Very straightforward and economical build. Apparently there's been a dive in prices lately too!
Yes, we are back to the trend of this modern era -after the parts shortage hiccup- in which we can say we're having the best of times in our computing lives value-wise.
I build and fix PCs for a living, So I don't really need to watch channels like this, for education purposes. But I enjoy watching particularly when I have no build jobs on you could say I'm addicted to the new build aspect of PCs. For instance, it helps me stop buying PC parts and building PCs I have no home for just to satisfy my need to build. What I like about this channel its building without all the fluff and childish nonsense you find on most other channels. I would and have recommended Explaining Computers to some of my customers because although I can build and rehear PCs, I don't have the patience or the required delivery skills to explain all the ins and outs. Top job keep up the good work.
Thanks for your kind feedback.
I could watch you explain things all day. Wish you were my teacher at school so many years ago. I might have done better than I did at that time. Check the prices we have to pay for pc parts in Australia I think you would be shocked at what it would cost us to use the same parts here. What you quoted seems remarkably cheap to me. Keep up the great work with your videos they are very much appreciated by everyone that sees them.
Thank you. The plane crashing and your description of it crashing was halarious.
Blessed Sunday greetings everyone! Ready for another fine EC video?
Greetings!
In November 2021 , build this exact system ... and on November 2023 have added a RTX 3060 . Very happy with a good machine to work or play ...
Wow, 16 Gb for 30 quid. When I was still at school the price of RAM was around £100 per Mb! At that time, my nerdy friends and I were agog that they were going to make memory with a whole Mb on a SINGLE CHIP! How times change.
I find it staggering.
the miracles of china.lol.
I picked up that same SSD on Amazing for $30.
SSD prices have dropped drastically.
good video sir, thank you.
I find these SSD prices extraordinary.
1 dislike comes from nvidia & Intel team
As always very quality videos in detail ty for making content for us
With Flight Skills like that you would qualify head Pilot of Airforce 1 under the current administration
:O
I built my PC with all those parts but I had to do a lot of research. If only I had seen this video before, the construction would have been easier for me. Either way, this PC is great and works perfectly for me. It is very good and the cost is excellent for someone who does not have much of a budget.
Glory to Mister Scissors and his friends
A value based DIY NAS would be an interesting topic to cover
If you don't need sata ports or pcie slots, the genmachine 7730u mini pc offers virtually equivalent cpu and graphics performance, lower tdp and same price.
24:00 Now I want an ExplainingVideogames channel :)
That would be a banger.
Thanks for such an educational video. I love the close-up shots, very good lighting and detail, I learn a lot with your videos and the computer is very good.
Good basic assembly video, it doesn't have to be complex. 5600G makes a great 'office box' PC with a bit of graphics clout. For the difference I would now use a 1Tb SSD as it is only a few £££s more , using Solidigm P41+ drives atm, they update the firmware to optimise performance from their management tool.
I was also thinking along 1Tb lines.
That 16GB of memory went in smoothly, but the last time I built a PC a couple of years ago I really had to jam it in. I hate how you have to stress the motherboard to do that. I wish it was as easy to put in as the CPU -- so simple, drop in and pull the lever!
I want to build a new PC using the Phanteks Shift XT case, this video helped!
"I'm not a gamer, but..."
*immediately crashes the plane*
You know what, I believe you :D
:D
I recently build two new PC with AMD 4600G, a bit cheaper but for my goals enough power. Both mobo where Gigabyte, one A520 and one A550. The 520 is mini ITX and has 64GB 3200. The 550 has 32GB 3000. Same brand and specs as your build. The reason for the 3000 is that I already had two sticks of 8GB each so I bought two more coming to 32GB. Each PC runs Linux Mint 21 Mate and the 64GB one is for virtual box. Both will be my main computers, connected to my cloud. This gives me enough for the next years, put more than enough of 1TB drives in there as well and have drive bay's to be able to do some testing with other distro of GNU-Linux.
I like your approach of going for the 'reasonable' rather than 'high end' side of the performance spectrum... If gaming is not a priority, this system should do its job nicely for the next couple of years, for a manageable budget.
One question though: would that system meet Windows 11 requirements?
Thanks a lot for your time and efforts, and have a relaxing Sunday! :)
Thanks for this. The system meets Windows 11 requirements -- and indeed runs Windows 11 well.
@@ExplainingComputers Interesting I was going to bet given the age of the processor that this was not going to be the case, but it makes a build like this more interesting! some of us are still firmly in windows 10 land i have 3 daily driver PCs that will not run windows 11 because their cpus are not on the list. They are all capable machines. I think i would probably see if i could find a motherboard with more memory slots given that i have ddr4 memory that i can recyle and my main work machine has 32gb which isnt enough! Having 3 machine to upgrade if i can recycle the ssds and some of the memory then thats good. Given that everyone will be doing the same old motherboards, cpus and ddr3 memory with are all non windows 11 stuff will be worth very little! and i have to use windows for work!
@@stevewhitcher6719 As time has moved on, processors not able to support Windows 11 are now typically about 5 years old. And the 5600G is less than two. :)
@@ExplainingComputers Good point! I did buy the Ryzen 5 CPU that you suggested but paired it with the 4 memory slot version of the motherboard! Havent bought an AMD cpu since they did socket 7 ones! Will be interesting to see what its like!
I enjoyed this video. Thank you, for making it!
Love the idea of a cheap PC build! Also very clean with integrated graphics and an NVME so no sata cables
I always use a CPU with onboard graphics even if I am adding in a graphics card. They are extremely useful when trying to debug problems. Additionally, people don't realize just how powerful these new chips are, especially if they aren't doing graphic intensive applications.
The not needing a Display port, TV on it, old VGA giant monitor...muhahahahaha, why old people need this ??????
@@lucasrem My new machine has an HDME port on the main board. That seems to be sufficient. My graphics card has multiple display ports.
Excellent point on using onboard/integrated graphics. Last time I built a PC was... The Pentium 4 days... (Wow, has it been that long?) I'd build the entire machine except for upgraded graphics card, and use the onboard to check for a good boot sequence before adding "one more thing to go wrong."
To be fair, this might be a holdover from Ye Olden Days of setting IRQs and DMA channels with jumpers...
@@dashcamandy2242 yeah, I remember the IRQ days. I started building computers in the late seventies when I had to wire wrap components to be able to run scrounged peripherals. Good times.
Ive been a Tech since the late 80's and your explanations are th best ive seen. Great videos
Let's see, we have...
✅ Mr. Scissors, Stanley the Knife, and even Mr. Screwdriver
✅ The word "swine" getting uttered during the I/O shield installation
✅ Ducks
And finally,
✅ An explosive plane crash
Yup, this build video truly has everything. Anyway, thank you so much for this one! It certainly looks like this provides a lot of bang for one's buck. Well done. 👏😁
Thanks for all the green ticks! :)
@@ExplainingComputers You're welcome! ❤
I watched this with admiration. It was dreamlike in that all the plugs fitted into the appropriate sockets with no adaptors required. In my personal experience I seem to encounter problems with fan connectors (lol). 3 pin or 4 pin, or trying to run more fans than sockets allow for!! keepup the good work!!
To use the bios flashback port the USB stick should be in the FAT32 format otherwise it won't work.
True.
I seems "budget build" is all about timing. If you were patient and actively watching online stores, you could get B560 motherboards for the same price for the month before the release of the 7000 series CPUs, and heavily discounted (50%-80%) 5000 series CPUs for about a month after said release. The bonus being some of the B560/B550 motherboards have enough RAM slots to support a 128GB configuration, while still being micro-ATX form factor.
Greetings from Texas! I do appreciate your Sunday morning messages!! This one is fantastic as ever Mr. Barnatt!
Greetings from Nottingham, UK. :)
I am not ever seen such best^2 PC build video since 2013....
Sir your explanation is fantabulous
This is excellent - an easy answer for the many people who ask every day what to get on a budget.
5600G is pretty decent for many games too - and I still consider building in a cheap metal box to be so much simpler than going with a laptop... obviously it also means you don't have to consider your Monitor, mouse or keyboard an integral part of the system... but then also there's a chance that you have to remember the built in camera/microphone/bluetooth too.
Chris another great video.
Nice to see Mr Scissors ,Stanley the Knife and even Mr Screwdriver working! It is a very promising build as your luck seems the opposite of mine....:)!
Nice to know that I am not the only gifted gamer.
Have a nice day/Week.
CHRIS: The technical precision and the practical granularity of this, most instructive, "DIY Build", is remarkably impressive! (hence, these remarks) .. Really .. Top-notch and world-class!
.. Your thoughtful efforts (in every respect) are , very much, appreciated.
Thank You, Chris!
Thanks for your kind feedback. :)
Please make sure you never find yourself piloting a real plane! I'm an experienced PC builder, but I really enjoyed your take on the process. Great job.
I got "spoiled" by AMD Athlon, FX series, opertorn and phenom processors over the years. The ones I had always worked with "onboard" video or with a graphics card. I thought that meant the motherboard had "onboard" video. When I bought a Ryzen processor and motherboard and the "onboard" video didn't work I thought it was defective so I ended up getting something else. This entire video explains the difference from the "old school" days where onboard video really MEANT there was an S3 virge or some such chipset on the motherboard, and NOW we have graphics IN the main CPU's. Wow I feel old!
You are right, onboard video used to be motherboard based, now CPU based.
I love your upgrade! Great video, I especially liked your system testing; "I'm not a gamer, oh no Mr. Bill pull up! That was not ideal.
Love your sense of humor.
Thank you for including the budget build with comparisons.
While I disagree with some components of this build, I cant help but appreciate the simplicity and comprehensable fashion that this video is arranged in. awesome!
If you're building something similar for yourself, keep in mind that the 5600G uses PCIE 3.0 instead of PCIE 4.0 compared to the 5600 so you may get some minor performance loss on your GPU depending on your CPU/motherboard selection
Only on the xx50 Nvidia ones. Others would be unoticed
the a520 has limits, one of it is that same pci express 3.0, and in practice the only real problem it might offer is not handling well the new pci express 4.0 x4 gpus like the rx6400 or 6500
Agreed -- and this was noted in the video! :)
It's an integrated GPU, so PCIe 4.0 isn't relevant nor will it affect performance. Memory speed will have a larger impact
@@arch1107 from PCIE 3.0 to 4.0
only have a difference of 5~10 fps in almost all games ~ 🗿
please check the 5600x video that uses PCIE 3.0 and 4.0 slots on UA-cam
I just did a Ryzen budget(ish) build:
Ryzen 5 5600G
16GB DDR4 @ 3200Mhz
ASUS Tuf A520M Plus II
XFX Qick RX 6750 XT
700W CIT FX Power Pro 80+ Bronze
Already had SSD's, got 2 SATA 2.5 inch SSD's and one Gen 3 NVMe
Total = £650...Which is crazy, coz I upgraded from a 3050 Ti Lenovo gaming laptop which cost the same price.
Nicely made PC Build 🙂
I laughed so hard at your sense of humor! The Plane "Crash & Burn" test! Quite a giggle indeed! 🤣🤣
The red heatsinks for the corsair ram is so beautiful. I forgot about color choice when these were on sale a month ago. If you are going to do gaming with an nvme. You really want at least 2-4TB. For 500GB these days are usually just to run the OS. That's usually dedicated for sata ssd over an nvme. Nvme's are better off as gaming drives, or something that requires fast read and write. Also make sure the motherboard has more than one nvme port. Comes in handy when you need more space. When first doing an nvme drive. I could not believe how small the screw is. Going to use a thumbscrew next time.
Stanley always has trouble sliding in!
I love lower end builds! There is something comfy about them.
Mr. Scissors is still very "sharp" and doesn't need upgrades. :) thank you for the video. Interesting budget build.
I have that same APU but mounted on an a320m s2h v2 card, I also have 16 GB of ram, and a 120 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD.
And everything working perfectly with Linux Mint.
greetings Mr Barnatt :)
Greetings!
@@ExplainingComputers this video is awesome, thank you Mr Barnatt
Great video, clearly explained and demonstrated!
I just picked up a secondhand mini PC based around a ryzen 3200g. It happily keeps up with day to day computing tasks and only cost 100 pounds! I certainly recommend looking out for second hand deals as other people are upgrading!
Wise advice.
A big thanks i have though about doing an upgrade to my 10 year old system and you have convenienced me this looks like a wonderful Idea thank you
That's the same case as mine lol. Going strong still after a 2013 build with a i7-4770k!
Great to hear. :)
Thank You for another great video as ever Kenny
Thanks Kenny, most appreciated. :)
This is something I plan on doing next year. That came out really nice, Chris.
Thank you for your excellent tutorial!
Built quite a few similar builds using the 5600g's for "family & friends" builds.A great little "all round chip".Be intresting to see the next gen apus perform. AM5 is still a non starter atm.
I suspect that the 5600G will be remembered as a classic.
@@ExplainingComputers Excellent video btw! ;)
Thank you, Chris, for this great build video. I had been thinking of updating my 15 year old desktop, and this was the inspiration I needed. Very helpful in all details--and especially as I was connecting the mobo headers. I was grateful for the magic of your filmmaking as your magnification of the led polarities was so much better than my reading glasses! All components sourced from your Amazon storefront--happy to do that small bit for all the great content you provide. Kind regards.
It was a delicious computer assembly/build video with a simple explanation. I watched it with great pleasure, I was so immersed in myself that I felt as if I had assembled this computer. Thank you for this educational video.
Thanks for your kind feedback. :)
Now Stanley The Knife is an internet celebrity I feel he deserves a new flash paint job.
He is indeed looking a little bare.
11:30 I might have suggested that CB hold the APU on its side so we can clearly see the pins in profile - but quick viewers can get this view by pausing at exactly the right fraction of a second at 11:18 .
I upgraded the PGA CPU on my first PC (an HP desktop with a 633 MHz Celeron -> 850 MHz P-III) over 20 years ago, then built a couple of homebrew desktops with PGA CPUs (late 32bit and very early 64bit AMD CPUs), so those are familiar. Looking forward to seeing one of those new LGA CPUs in an upcoming video, if CB hasn't done one yet.
great video sir, i love the way you explain like our school teacher .. ^_^
Thank you! 😃
Very good mid-level machine. Back in 2020 I built almost the same system, except with a Gigabyte A510I AC mini-ITX board and a Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G APU in a book-sized Inwin Chopin case. I used it for teleconferencing and professional software development at home during the COVID lockdown and liked it so much that I built a second, only changing the APU to a 5600G. Both are highly capable, responsive, silent, and rock-solid reliable, and they're still my main workstations for daily use today.
By coincidence I just built a Ryzen 9 7900 system, for about 4x the price. Much quicker but not 4x quicker. There is a strong economic argument for trailing edge. But, £200 of that was the case and PSU, so in reality, probably only 3x as much. I used a Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX which has a lot of IO capability and 32 Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 RAM. The SSD was a 1Tb Samsung 990 Pro. It is getting hard to find decent cases these days with 5.25 inch drive bays for an optical drive and without glass sides and multiple LEDs. I can see why you re-used the case and PSU.
you should give the price minus the extras in ram and disk and case for a good comparison for us. 🙂
I picked up a Ryzen 5600G 8 months ago on sale for $100 USD ($139 CAD here in Canada) to upgrade my HTPC's Ryzen 3 2200G. I didn't even really need the upgrade to be honest the 2200G still did the job but for $100 USD I figured why not it drops right into my B450 board and I said 8 months ago they'll probably never be this cheap again and it looks like I might be right. They're still crazy cheap but they've never been as cheap as they were when I bought mine. Once they start to dry up they'll rise in price just as the 3400G did. Now's the time to jump on AM4 if you're looking for this kind of a budget friendly platform.
That short socket that you would use for on board storage can also be used for a WIFI/Bluetooth Adapter.
Ooooo, Stanley the Knife will now need to file a Safety Report noting that cutting towards your fingers was beyond his control (16:20).
Ah, I wondered how long it would take for somebody to comment on this! :) I never thought about it at the time, but did so in editing.
An exceptional tutorial for building on the cheap. Thank you for this and all you do to educate we the unknowing. ^~^
I really like the idea of a PC build at a sensible price point. It's very easy to want more and more and end up over twice rhe cost.
Exactly. What you can spend never ends.
Did a very similar build for my niece that cost me just under $300USD. I got the Gigabyte A520 with Wi-Fi ITX motherboard instead.
i took the 5600g for my graphix rig but with a gigabytre 550m ds3h for the minitower. price for the ryzen was around 20eu more tho. my main music rig will get the 5700x after havin the 3400g used for 4 years now as a transition cpu before gettin a dedicated gfx card after 2years. saved me a lot money with that transition built concept. unfortunately the new amd socket system stopped it brutally^^
OMG, OMG, OMG that is the 'mouse' that was ricently mentioned/questioned on r/mousereview.
I love your builds. Did it myself over 20 years ago.
I'd love to see a mini computer build. Purely selfish reason. I need to power my telescope and I'm using my NUC as the desktop
Recently ,MAY 2023, i upgade my rig:
I had: An asus P8z77M with Z77chipset, Intel 3770 (NoN K), DDR3 32GB(4X8GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX@1600MHz, Samsung Evo SATA3 500GB, Seasonic S12G-650W, MSI Mech 2X RX 6700 XT
I Upgrate my Mobo, CPU and RAM and i kept the rest of components: Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite V2 (125euros), AMD 5600(NoN X) (123euros), DDR4 32GB(2X16GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX@ 3200MHz(68Euros) of a total cost 316 euros. Prices are in Greece.
Call me out dated but ANY build should have a DVD play recorder. Nice job and a easy add on any time.
Near perfect explained, very impressive. i have just one caviat, optimal ram speed for ryzen series explained.
It's unfortunate that finding good quality cases with 5.25" bays is quite difficult nowadays. I much prefer having extra I/O potential than aesthetics.
I like the way you explain, very clear
Excellent build video - really well explained , well paced and well chosen parts.
And a tribute to you... from the likes of Monty Python.. oh dear the airplane (radio) has exploded! Love it. Great Video.
:)
OH MY GOD WE FALLING! - Oh, look at the trails :D
The gaming demo is a shocker!😂
Awesome !...cheers.
Very useful video about system building, its been a while since I built a PC so good to see how it fits together with modern parts.
One small correction at 2:36 - The newer Rzyen 7000 Series CPUs are APUs as well since all CPUs have an integrated graphics solution.
None of the new CPUs have the "G" attached to it, which marked earlier Ryzen CPUs as integrated graphics.
So what you said is true for Ryzen 1000 to 5000 series, it's not true for Ryzen 7000 series.
Sorry, but you are misrepresenting the content in the video. I pondered this issue greatly and worded things very accurately. What I stated on this matter is correct in all instances.
For start, AMD does not label any released 7000 chips as APUs. Now certainly it could be argued (as you do) that they are APUs, as they include an iGPU and a CPU. But this is a dubious argument, as "APU" is a marketing rather than a technical term (Intel chips with a CPU and an iGPU are not APUs!). So if AMD are not applying the APU marketing label, there is no technical reason to apply it.
But even more fundamentally, I chose to avoid even this argument. If you listen to what I actually said and wrote, in audio I stated that "Currently there are no G-suffix Ryzen 7000 APUs". And this is 100 per cent factually correct. And in the graphic, I wrote "Currently, there are no Ryzen "G" APUs". And again this is correct.
What you seem to be stating is that I said that there were no Ryzen 7000 APUs -- and I never said or wrote this. I've been drafting technical and sometimes legal documents professionally for over 30 years, and know how to keep things accurate, even in linguistic quagmires like the one that AMD has created for us here. :)
This is a great video. You appreciated sir!
It has been a clear and enjoyable video. Thanks for the job.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@ExplainingComputersI built my first computer three years ago, with an MSI B350M, a Ryzen 1200AF and 8 GB of RAM, graphics card a GTX 750.
Nice new computer build, your storage is too low (Even though this is a linux build). 500 gb today is considered nothing, you'll probably have that drive filled by the end of the week, files are so big today😮. Excellent video as usual. 😊 As Always, Be Smart and Stay Safe.
The 500GB drive is massively over-specified for this test system. :) And I know many people who live and work quite happily with a 500GB machine.