3G Stick AWS D1.1 Structural Welding with Michael Tomek
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- On this weeks episode of WeldTube we have Michael Tomek showing you guys how to do a AWS D1.1 Test. Mike Teaches the evening classes here at South Coast Welding Academy and is eager to show you what he's got!
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Just passed my AWS d1.1 yesterday waiting for my card to come in the mail now. This video solely helped me to pass above all the others on here.
Congratulations
Congratulations . About how long took it to recive the card
Congrats!
Doing my test next week
It's great to see this type of teaching available. I'm a fan of Bob Moffat and Jody of welding tricks ... until you guys they were the only welding channels I had full confidence in. I've been a welder for over 42 years with the largest majority fabrication and repair of Heavy Earth Moving Equipment and then the past 20 yr. I've been the sole Maintenance Specialist/ Welder at a large school district making repairs and Fabricating everything metal.
Even with my experience I need welders like you all to give me lessons, hints, and tricks. Hell, Bob Moffat called me personally and talked me through an issue I was having with some Stainless Steel.
Glad your channel is here, I'm a subsriber!
Hello mr. Brady im a newly grad in a welding school funded by Phillipine Govt. And im glad that there is a channel like this because it will enhance our hidden skill inside us.
Give Mr. Tomek a round of applause guys👏.
Aguillo your the man.
This is the first I've seen taking d1.1 test using 3/32. And a half inch steel.
We always use 1/8 1inch steel.
This really has helped me not be so anxious about going and taking a weld test
Great video. Thnx. Pls. do more. Your "6" restarts are a great technique. I've never heard it said that way. It's so simple. That will surely improve my lumpy restarts.
That’s my brother getting it done 🤟🏻💯
Thanks for the vid. And effort shooting it. Appreciate each instructor's unique techniques and methods
Really like watching your channel it’s helped me a lot in my college welding class. i really like the way y’all teach it’s helped me a lot. Keep up the good work y’all!
Love you WT. Y'all have the best audio levels for your stick welding vids too. 🤩 the sizzle!!!!
When I took that test we had to use 1/8th. for everything. My instructor let me do a test plate with 5/32" root to cap and that also passed.
Do they bend the straps ?
@@sepulvedaoutdoors yes
I have a 3g and 4g test soon for a nuclear plant and this video has some great benefits thanks man
Whatever.. passing a 4G is known as all position... it overrides and certifies you for 3-g and 2G.. as long as the welding procedures and parameters. Are the same
@@user-mt9tn1ni4g nope 4g wont certify you to weld vertical, need 3g
It's so cool how I found this video. I'm actually taking this test tomorrow!!
Alex Dillman good luck bro!
Did u pass?
Alex Dillman did u pass
SadisticGem007 yes I did. 3g 4g certified now!!
@@xbettervibes congrats now you just have to certify again when you get a job and do it the way they want. AWS Certs are BS bro have been welding 12 years and even tho I have my AWS certs structural and GTAW PIPE never has one company asked to see them and thats because they do there own test witch is harder anyways.
Hell yea brotha, def helped me a lot, gettin ready for my test next week 🤝
Depending on the CWI administrating the test and the WPS you're given would determine wether you use the 3/32 or 1/8 7018 or a combination there of for the test. Most CWI will check your fit up and your root pass before just letting you continue with the test. Good test plate though.
There is only one procedure for a 3g 1.1 just one. According to the AWS specifications.. certain jobs and applications may change.. the specifications and procedures but they have to be approved... so a certified welding instructor giving a AWS certification cannot make up his own rules... and as far as 1/8 or 3/32 7018.. that does not make a difference at all as far as the AWS certification specifications... as long as you stay within the specific parameters that the different diameter wires have... 7018 is 7018 no matter what size diameter... but each size diameter has a different specification for Heat input.. bead width and interpass temperature!!
this is good...the other guy is like god level welder and sets the bar very very high...this guy shows a more realistic welding that will PASS...remember it aint always gotta be pretty shit needs to pass
That’s the truth my quarry work is never pretty.🤮Just make it hold a little while.
Learned so much from Weld Tube......Thanks
I missed seeing how you clean out each pass. Good advice.. Well done
Would like to see the beads before be does each pass but good work bro
Great video! Thank you for taking the time to put this out there for us to watch. Wish your welding academy was closer to Ohio I would love to attend. Have a great day. Cheers
What about slag inclusions from weaving? And not cleaning the slag off from the start and stop?
I passed my 2g3g4g today
If you pass your 4G that certifies you for all positions there's no need to take a 2G and 3-g
congrats!
I'm taking my 3G D1.1 which like the other guy says qualifies u for all SMAW welding in any position on any material.
@@user-mt9tn1ni4g not at school you take each test so they can see the results. Not certified just tests.
Carl is incorrect, 3g is separate from 4g, however 6g would cover both overhead and vertical
I have a question I hope you will answer, please.
Pipe doesn't use a backing strip for the root so I wonder,
out in the "real world" will there always be a backing strip on every joint or does the backing strip in the test represent something else that would be found out on the job?
Could you go a bit further into the "why's and where for's" of the test procedures besides just how to lay the bead and settings, etc.?
Thank you!
Very well explained Thank You
Another great learning video from WeldTube 🙌🏾! Michael Tomek where can I get a hood like that? 😉👌🏾
Make sure to keep your rod 10° angle.. over and over again at 10° angle.. but I watch these guys videos multiple times and.. when the welding rod reaches about 6 inches.. he's at 0°.. when the welding rod is brought down to about 4 in. His rod angle is pointing down the Stinger is above the ark!! At 3 to 2 in Rod length his rod angle is 15 to 20 degrees down.. so yeah so much for that
Carl Boucher when I was in school one of the instructors would hold a serious drag angle of 15-20 when he would do 3g7018 vertical and it was one of the slickest welds you’d ever seen! Moral of story is, do what works for you. (I could never get a hang of draging 7018 vertical)
Badass welds and modest. Looking good brotha.
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL BRO KEEP ON BURNING RODS !!!!!
Good welding tips i learned new technique today thanks buddy.
Good morning Mr Michael... Bro...
If it was me I would have done a stringer cap. You can run very hot on stringers and they will blend together very well and be slick as snot. My advice to this welder is get a hood you can see good enough that you don’t need to grind your edges. If you have problems finding the edge of weld that is were your inconsistency is coming from.
good weld and nice teaching me
Good teaching skills. 👌🏾
Great vid! Good info, and easily understandable. Thanks! Serious question..... why do most of you guys wear pipeliners? Is there any advantage to that good that I am missing? I still use my grandfather's Bandit with a #10 gold.....
Super videos, you guys are first class! If I lived close by, I'd be right there with you for "Tune-ups".
Several things I am interested in.
I would like to see 7018 stringers all the way out.
Sometimes the guy giving the test (... if you are going for a job) wants stringers.
I would like to see a coupon bend; I always hold my breath on that one.
Lastly, (...yeah, I know it's tough) what rod do you prefer? I've used them all.
The company you work for supplies the consumables; they might use your requests.
I have had both horrible results with some brands, and stellar looking welds with others (all fresh out of the can, or, rod oven).
With the crew leader looking over your shoulder, I hate using inferior (in my opinion) brand rod. Especially when you are the new guy on the crew.
All comments appreciated; Thanks.
yeah i was just gonna say i thought weaving was a no go for structural
Weaving is not allowed in D1.1 but it needs to be defined by D1.1.
Also the wps may state that you can't weave but have to run stringers only or vice versa.
Antoneo Alston the videos are good but they need to give out all the information on testing not just a one sided view. Also, it would be nice if the videos did incorporate a CWI there while they do these test examples to give a real live feel of what will happen at a test site.
That is true. I have had them say I cant weave past the second pass
Lmaoo don’t think I didn’t see that undercut on the root 😂
Noooo doubt... lead instructor? Gives me the shits to not clean off the slag too
excellent tutorial ,i like thanks for you class.
He looks like Sid from Ice Age.. 😂
Question, If U get undercut, in the root or fill passes, when u do your next pass run hot and fill it In, and as long as your caps have no undercut isn't that ok ?
new to welding. taking some college classes. Do you not have to clean the slag off before restarting your weld?
I did this today for NOCTI and boogered it all up. For some reason every tome i got about 1/3(1/2) to 2/3 the way up 6 inch long and half inch thick plate i think it was my bead went from a bead to crap dripping every where. Couldt get it to stop no matter how fast i went or whoch weave i tried it went to crap in the same 2 inch space. 1/8 inch 7018 rod with what i think was supposed to be a 3/32 gap ay 115 to start and 120 for the hot pass, but my rod fit with room to spare and i didnt feel like complaining, plus i figured a wider gap might help me, so i didnt say anything lile a dummy. HELP!
Mick Chuknit it’s called arc blow. If you’re running 1/8” or smaller diameter put your ground clamp at the top of the plate. If you’re running 5/32 or larger put the clamp at the bottom. It helps out tremendously.
you have good skill
Yo bro, could you do a video about the best machines to weld for mig, tig and stick am trying to buy one but I don't know so much about machines, am sure other people would be interested on a video like that too, and thanks for your videos they help a lot ✌
Millers are great for shop welding, so pretty much mig and fluxcore and tig. For stick & tig welding in my opinion, the lincoln takes the win. A machine thats DC only gives out a smoother arc, than a machine thats AC/DC like the millers and some lincolns, and it works both ways too.
Great job tomek
They say that weave beads put high heat input into the joint,resulting in grain growth, which could lead to catastrophic failure of a joint
It also increases the chance of inclusions. I've never taken a test or seen a WPS that allows beads larger than 5/16 on structural.
@@jca66 right on....
@@jca66 so a plate test will have a quarter inch gap for the root opening, and using 1/8 diameter rod,you pretty much HAVE to run a 5/16 stringer for your root pass to tie in your bevels....
@@geraldfahey2681 what's your point? 5/16 is the maximum single weld size. You will fail if you go wider
@@jca66 i just wanted your input....
Lets see this with 1/8 " rod next time maybe
You dont have to knock the slag off on your restarts?
What’s your machine settings for Root, Hot Pass, Fill, & Cap??? Can you do this video over because it’s not in depth like the others
"Stringer beads with a weave"
Weld tube love calling stringers, weaves 😂
@@jacksondanielson4323 r4th7
Olá
He’s hitting toe to crown with weaves
How come he’s not showing himself cleaning the weld at his stop before welding the tie-in/restart? That’s important to make sure that you don’t get any slag inclusion at the tie-in.
Tie in don’t matter the rod burns any from the crater when there isn’t much to begin with
What is the application of this particular well joint in the field? Technically I've never seen a joint like this when erecting structural steel
Pipe
@@ohshucks7156 this test doesn’t qualify you for pipe welding. It’s strictly a structural test.
As you were running the bead, i noticed that you were starting a new rod over the flux shielding of the previous bead. Is that correct? But when you do your second pass, I guess you have to clean of the protective flux first. Just want to understand this better. Thanks for the vide.
Danylo66 always have to clean slag off. Never weld over slag. But in this case, the slag will run out of the crater since he is running vertical up. Gravity pulls the slag down. 👍🏻
Sammy Dubose thanks, I was never sure about that.
No problem. Happy to help.
The slag on the stop is very minimal so yes you CAN run one PASS without chipping so the slag will protect the previous rod you burned from buckshot and trash but YES when you finish a complete pass from the bottom to top of plate you will clean ALL slag before starting your next full pass.
Why were the fit up parameters not mentioned? ( min/max gap on the bevels and prep work)
Different companies certify different ways
Bevel is always 37.5 degrees
That's not true. 3g for 3/8 is 22.5
When y'all go to test do they have everything already beveled or do you have to do that?
Serious question I want to register to get certified soon
@@roscojenkins9067 Its already beveled 37.5 degrees always 37.5, 37.5, 37.5 degrees don't let anyone tell you different it's always 37.5 degrees you got it. you just have to clean of the lime scale and fit it up yourself.
Are u knocking the slag off in between each rod? If so it looks like ur just leaving it till the next bead...
Only chipping slag after he completes a full pass.
Full pass. When the rod finishes there isn’t much slag on the crater
Do all places that test for the D1.1 exam allow 3/32 rod for the root? I think the school I sign up to all welds are with 1/8 rod
my only question is why did you not clean the slag for your tie-ins ? i was always taught to clean clean clean
You should clean off the slag and take a hacksaw blade to any slag left at the toes of the weld.
Slag runs out of the crater in vertical
Corey Dixon Sr.
I see your work here Michael Tomek. Very nice welding on the 3G. My question is on the CAP where you mention the amps being set to around 95 amps while using 3/32" 7018 Rod. "Is that the same amps if I am using 1/8" 7018 Rod?
when you're running a 7018 1/8 inch rod the lowest you want to run it is about 115 or 120amps.... the only reason why he's running at 92-95 amps is because it's a smaller rod it's at 3/32 7018.
@@MRSTEEL-fd7eg You sir are correct
3x electrode dia should be layer
Aguillo id be interested to see a foodgrade/ sanitary tubing weld from you
Buen video
My boy Mikey !!
thx bro about to impress my instructor
Why not use 1/8? No starts and stops in the middle of the joint
Do AWS 4g aswell please?????
Great Camera you got. We're those weaves or we're you tying beads?
Grasias
Can you make a Vedio in running different rods like 6011 and 7018 or you have one?
Can you guys please do the cwb weld tests. Smaw and fcaw. I love the videos
Aiden Hepburn CWB test are strict asf! Just so you know. Those Canadians don't play. Personally I think it their welding schools are better than the US. If you can pass their stuff then AWS test are easy.
Ahmad Ali thanks for the response. I have passed the flat and horizontal smaw so far. The shop im at now is all flux and metal core. Im stuck on the vertical stick. I do agree they are very strict having 2 stop starts on the roots is a pain.Being in Alberta everything has strict limits
Aiden Hepburn I've been thinking about getting into one of the welding schools in Canada just so I can get all that CWB info under my belt. But it's hard asf just to get in the schools if you are from the US. It would be nice. I hold certs in all smaw, gmaw, fcaw structural steel and GTAW stainless, aluminum structural, all position sheet metal cert and a auto body (GMA) welding cert. But I don't have and CWB certs. They are next on my list someday
So he is weaving instead of stringing that's crazy
Theone Paradox right! I've been stressing the fuck out thinking I had to. I'm trying this tmr ! I can just run stringers for the cap .
Just depends on test specs. You can weave or run stringers....but you gotta remember how far are you whipping to weave? Some places say 3x the diameter is a weave I've been somewhere where they consider 5x the diameter is a weave. Gotta ask questions....but I prefer weaves compared to stringers. Haha
Weaving is the easier way for me. I had a harder time runnin stringers
Does the weld fuse to the backing strip??
It’s kinda weird to me hearing backing strip I’ve always heard it as a backer bar
Edit: I do 7018 open root with a 1/4 in. gap how long should I pause? I’ve tried 2 seconds on each wall but still get undercut.
an open root with a 1/4” ?
Quenton Parsons with a backer bar
Try using stringers for the root instead of a weave, just to make it easier on ya, imo.
What a wide root
Need a bit more viewing of the finished weld please but great video.
Let's get it!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
Justin Hughes up
Question: does someone who has their d17.1 have the skill level to do structural steel even though they are not la city certified?
good job bro ❤
Going to school for this as well. Just a short term class, I am now doing 3G aws d1.1 but it's to prep us for the test next class. They have me doing a 2 cap pass. Is it just preference or is it state by state code
It all depends on the company and client your working for. I have my aws certs, well they have been expired for about 9 years now only because I found out quick that companies don't care if you show them a peace of paper that shows your certified because they give there own certification test that is harder If your going to work for a bigger company like Bechdel, CB&I or Fluor just to name a few. You will always have to certify for every company you work for and the tests will all be different. The last test I took was for CB&I and it was 1 inch plate 5/32 gap 1/8 rod root to flush 3/32 5 stringer cap xray.
Hi brother. Your first name,Hjalmar, is a Norwegian name! Are you from Norwegian descent?
Love your videos and your passion!
Dope🤘🏻💯
Love the videos but would love to see more fcaw plate tests
Grayson Smyly no money in fcaw welding.
So 27.61 a hour for fcaw is bad
U have to work shut downs. I’ve seen pipe jobs only paying $20
Well we make 27.61 hour for fcaw lol
In A shop
Why do you use a backing strip and do you leave it when done? I guess I don't understand the purpose of the backing strip.
10:4 littleal I’ve never done this test for structural but when I took the guide bend test in college you blow it off with the torch and smooth it out before you cut the plate and bend it. I think they allow it because unlike pipe almost all structural is a joint and usually always has some sort of backing
Allows for more burn it to ensure penetration and a good weld
Cheers
I never got to use a backing strap I wanted to at first
At my testing facility it doesn’t allow weaves instead of stringers 😞
Hi long do u wait in between beads
Do you let your plate cool down?
Good job bro
I’m doing my v groove practice right now and I’m getting under cut in my root pass and hot pass any tips?
Jackross7_11 slow down , don’t long arc. Watch the sides of your puddle . Ocelate or drag
My bff Mikey in the house
Need tips for structural plate test 3g using mig process 1in thick plate 1/4 in thick gap please theres no videos or anything on this .
With a backing strap? If so then I may have a idea of you being able to accommodate that position with mig. It would be the "Triangle" method or my personal preference a side to side motion, or even: well it's not common in the field from what I heard but there is an old method that I was taught called the "Squirting" method sounds funny I know. But it'll save your ass if it's the only thing or last thing to think of imo, honestly.
Do you grind in between your welds?
It’s better to
Why not do stringers ???
His personal preference
test im getting ready to take insists on stringers...no weaving allowed...
@@shanejenson5246
U taking it with AWS?
@@roscojenkins9067 yes i did and I passed 3g and 4g
Last time I took my was 10 years ago
weaving every pass doesn't that leave a chance for trapping slag?
YEA Unless your good and know what your doing you be ok
What shade u using ?
Good lord this test is way easier then the cwb 47.1 you should have to stop in the middle of both cupons
It's 3/32 he probably stopped 30 times. Judging by some of the comments AWS D1.1 seems to have a lot of allowable variables. At least CSA is constant.
Gap size?
Does anyone use a cordless angle grinder on the row?