The Bible Does NOT Teach to Tithe 10%
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The Greek word is to give "hilariously" as in so excited just cannot wait to give with a grateful attitude. Grace giving with anticipation in giving to God's Church ministries.
To anything God leads one to give to.
Finally, someone speaking the truth.
The tithes were for the levitcal priests, as they had no inheritance.
Also, yes, we are supposed to give. Especially to the poor, the widow, the fatherless.
The poor, the widowed, fatherless, etc. now have government assistance/ welfare services, which we contribute to through taxes.
That does not count, it has to come directly from you. One is non volutary taxes, the other is from the heart.@@Arggggggggg
Also its 10 percent of gross not net.@@Arggggggggg
@stevendoty9408 Oh, I get it, but I would have money to give if it wasn't for taxes.
@@Arggggggggg they had taxes as well and were much poorer than we. I don't give to churches, only people in need.
I would love to get a breakdown on that 23%! That is totally awesome! Please share if you're able
FINALLY.
A proper teaching on tithing. Had to sit through it so much. Luckily my parents knew what they were about.
Proved it to my husband before we were married too. He then had to agree lol.
Give cheerfully and with generosity.
I think the tithe is still a good rule of thumb. Like the heart check doesn't work when you're greedy in your heart. So sometimes you need empirical evidence. Do I make good money and only give 1%? That does in fact seem low to me.
@@Andy-gq5hb
Indeed, but this should be a self-imposed check not imposed on the congregate. Also careful to avoid the tithe requirements as a discriminate to other followers of Christ. Agree, it's a good place to start but the discussion is the Tithe Required for New Testament/Covenant Christians. The NT does not infer nor specifically require a Tithe in the Christian Church. Attitude is important, being obliged to tithe may draw resentment even though very faithful. God judges the heart and actions. It's possible, after years of obliged tithing, God blesses faithfulness on earth but only to be burned as wood, hay and stubble at judgment because they gave out of duty rather than love.
Thank you. Well said. 10% is the minimum we should give as Christ followers for Kingdom work.
@@davidallison9499 there is no minimum
Got into an argument with my mum as she kept blaming me for not giving a 10%. Told her that we are told to give as much as we can and that same measure will be used by God to give back to us. But this video really helped!!! Thank you so very much!!!!
Give her this example: Do you want me to pay you a birthday present because I have to obey your command to give you one, or would it be better if I give you a present because I love you?
Tithing is a payment done out of obligation. It is God’s choice. Giving is a gift done out of love. It is our choice. The reason behind the transfer of resources makes all the difference.
@@ricksonora6656 never thought there was even a difference between those two. Obligation and gift! So good. Thanks man!!!
10% is the minimum.
FINALLY someone telling the truth. Be generous as Jesus is (and would be)!!
Dude I remember when I heard Mike winger say this on his channel and that blew me out of the water because like you said I had been told this my whole life in every church I went to. And it just took me by surprise and it was that moment I had to like rethink everything. But I still be finding myself thinking and feeling like I'm doing something wrong if I'm not giving 10% ish. But I usually try to just give 10% ish to charities that I care about. Because I obviously still believe in giving to help advance the kingdom in some way. And helping others in need.
Every time I have chosen to honor the Lord and give what He has laid on my heart to give, following the Biblical principle outlined in His word, and have put the Lord first - of the firstfruits, and not the remainder - I have never been in lack, all my remainder lasts until my next paycheck. God honors His children’s commitment to honoring Him.
He also says to not take away one jot or one tittle from His word - and that leading “one of these little ones astray” - “it would be better that a milestone be tied around his neck and be thrown into the sea.”
Also 1 Corinthians tells us tithe isn't for a church to turn over a profit but to feed and cloth members of the church.
I’m not saying we should abuse this passage to support some of the overly greedy pastors, but it is also our responsibility to support those in position that are sharing the gospel-with our tithe. “Do you not know that those who are employed in the temple service get their food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in the sacrificial offerings? In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel.”
1 Corinthians 9:13-14 ESV
@@brianweaver1503Tithing is the wrong word. A tithe is extracted from you. It is an obligation. We are to give. In tithing, the Law takes. In giving, you freely act. The perspectives are diametrically opposed.
@@ricksonora6656
Indeed, put very accurately, rightly used terms are important . Sadly, over time terms, names, verbage, and meanings change.
@@ricksonora6656 it doesn't have to be that way. A tithe can be a suggested gift that generally satisfies the conditions of generously and charitably. Some give more, some give less. Abraham freely gave a tithe to Melchizedek.
@@thadofalltrades It is, by definition, that way. Giving is good. A suggested tenth is fine. But “tithe” is the wrong word because it implies an obligation that has a penalty when unmet.
Proverbs advises to honour God with our wealth, the first fruits of our increase. 10% is a good starting point to assess that. Some may then do the heart check, and gut check, to give much more than that on top of their "first fruits."
Absolutely a Biblical fact!❤
Not only is in not mentioned in the new testament. But also, in the old testament the tithe was even money lol. It was crops, so if we wanted to apply today we should be giving food instead of money. Which honestly I could get behind. Having a pantry at the church where people in need could go and grab as needed. Sound pretty good to me.
it was money too
Right on. There's no biblical minimum or limit to what we can give. But we're free to give, not bound to pay.
As I view the scripture and listen to Sean’s comments I believe it is clear that 10% is the minimum.
@@davidallison9499 Ok, can you share the scripture that states 10% is the minimum a person has to give of their money?
There is also the ministry of needs that is often overlooked.
Unfortunately for things such as good psychotherapy! YHWH RAPHA
The church is all about money. We went to church gave what we had got called into the office because we didn't give enough. Told the preacher we didn't have money to feed our kids that week. God will provide he said while he was leaving with his family on a expensive vacation. 😢 my worship is now at home and I help people in the community giving food and clothing to the poor. Church nowadays is all about money not the people. It's very sad.
It’s so unfortunate that you had to experience a pastor like that, whoever he was, he was definitely a wolf in sheep’s clothing, no pastor should have advised you to give having the excuse that “God will provide” yes he will provide but that money needed to go to your family first and the Bible tells us that someone who doesn’t provide for their family is worse than an unbeliever. I hope that pastor repents because he sounds money hungry. It just goes to show you that people can still fail us even in the faith but always remember that God will never fail us, he will never leave us nor forsake us
Some people are leading churches because they are actually wizards working to soul win for the OTHER side in order to increase their own power and wealth given to them by the god of the world they worship instead of the true God through those means. Some churches are merely controlled opposition and you can see them by their fruits.
The tithe or tenth goes back to Abraham who gave a tenth to Melchizedek. Funny how this is ignored. It's mentioned in Genesis and Hebrews.
I love it. I am smiling. This the real truth. I love the fact that this coming from you. You have big audiance. When Jesus met me 2016, I wanted to become a good Christian, I wanted to sort out my finances to start paying Tithes, same week the LORD gave me a vision, my first vision from GOD. GALATIANS 1:5-9. This make me believe the BIBLE IS TRUE. Tthing is a false Gospel. False preachers brought in the church a long time ago to decieve for thier
own gain. Modern preacher follow suit to become rich. Those who preach a false gospel are under God's curse. Go read GALATIANS 1. Bless you my brother. GOD lives
Check Mattew 23 vs 23
“With great power there must be great responsibility.” I know what you’re doing!
He knows what he's doing, too 😠
Giving generously does not negate the reality that God reserves a 10% for himself. Indeed, it seems counterintuitive that those who are arguing against tithing claim to do so on the basis of even more generous giving. If it makes sense to be generous why wouldn’t it make sense to separate a 10% for the Lord to begin with?
I would challenge this a little bit, though I don't think we need to be dogmatic about it. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek long before the Old Covenant law was given, so anyone saying it is just Old Covenant is mistaken. The practice was done long before that. Christ is a priest after the order of Melchizedek and we are all part of the priesthood of all believers. Some even argue that Melchizedek was Jesus in a pre-incarnate form. I agree it's problematic to compel giving a tenth (which is what tithe means), but I think the practice can be defended even in the New Covenant.
Amen brother!
we're told to give generously. proceeds to take out 5 euros.
Amen and amen.
The tithe stuff was for raising funds to help the persecuted Christians in other lands
What about the Sabbath or Saturday Sabbath?
What about it?
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Romans:14:5
In the time of Jesus it was even considered sinful for gentiles to keep the sabbath. So they needed some kind of compromise.
It's the least we should give in church
It’s more than just Malachi, Sean. Our tithes go to fund the pastor and various costs of the running of the church. Offerings are anything else above and beyond. Now, you can give more love offerings to help the pastor, church costs, etc, and that’s where the generosity of your heart comes to play. But we are indeed commanded to give of our first fruits.
I thought Christians believes the Torah aka the Law was done away with? And if not, the Law does not say give 10% of your money, Jews had money, it was very specific to give the harvest for sacrifices and feasts.
@@GaserBeam-hi4ez The Law in regards to salvation, the need for sacrifice, and in regards to clothing/food (for all is made clean) has been done away with. But we are still not to murder, steal, envy, etc. We still are to honor our fathers and mothers. We are still to have no other gods. Etc, etc
Btw, love the Incredibles reference in your username!
@@NewCreationRedeemed so the sacrificial tithe is done away with because the temple is because sacrifices aren’t needed…..
@@GaserBeam-hi4ez We have churches that have similar ministerial positions: pastor, worship leader, etc. There are also various costs and upkeep needed to keep the churches running. These are handled by the tithes similar to the temple of the Old Testament.
@@NewCreationRedeemed God didn’t tell us to make those buildings and hire those staffers
Thank you, indeed, I went against the "Tithe Requirement" for the Church Age Christians since the mid '80's. This was(is) very hard to do since Christian "tithe" is so ingrained in the church polity & nearly all Denominations.. Mainly, requesting banks loans require the financial statements from Churches, the defacto accounting is the estimate tithing matrix.
Besides the Mormon church I have never heard of a Christian church that pays any attention to how much money their congregation gives. You give what you can give and that is it that's so weird that you saw it differently and I've been a Christian for 50 years and never experienced any pressure to tithe nor have I heard of anyone else experiencing pressure to tithe
@@colleencampbell172
I must say you have been fortunate but every Christian denomination will address offerings to raise finances for the ministry. I've been a Christian and a church member since 1973. Membership in five different mainline denominations and each one required or strongly encouraged thru misapplied Scripture to its membership to tithe.
@@williamalderman7990 my husband is black and I know that whenever we have gone to a black church there's always a building fund that they are trying to raise money for and I don't know why the church does this but my experience is out of four different black churches that's what happens. When you go to a mixed race nondenominational Christian church the time is something that is between you and God and it's never pushed sometimes the baskets are just set at the back of the church and you can go put your tithe in there at the end of service with nobody even mentioning it. That's I think it should be in my opinion. With no pressure.
Indeed, we are to give from what God has prospered us with a grateful hilarious attitude (often referred as from heart) The term tithe is the wrong term for New Testament giving. The thread "Tithe Requirement for Christians" and the discussion is around that. There's no question or issue whether Christians are to give offerings, we are. But are you, as a Christian "required" oblige to tithe? Among Christians this should not be a contentious subject. God will bless
Christians are according to the New Testament/Covenant "required" to tithe or give ten percent of their income to their Church.
Yes, yes, and yes!!!!!!
Thank you
💥 when I preached this you could hear a pin drop next door 😂
God loves a cheerful giver; not an obligated one.
Jesus lives! ♥️ and is Yahweh God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑
Excellent!
23 percent is given every week by everyone who works, that is where taxes came up with that number is what I heard from John MacArthur. So everyone already gave their tithe. Do I feel I need to give more? No, I don't
That’s why when I do have money I give to Open Doors charity for persecuted Christian’s. I don’t like farm factory brick building churches they never really gave practical support to me when I was married to a non believer. They had their little cliches of happy couples
In Germany we pay between 8 and 9 percent church tax. If you don't wanna pay it, you gotta leave the church officially. Otherwise the German IRS will come after you 😊.
Were all priests, so we all should be getting tithes ayy 😂😂
Barra tells us only 3% of evangelical Christians give 10% of their income. The body of Christ can do better. I view 10% as the minimum we should give to Kingdom work. Imagine if the other 97% of evangelical Christians gave 10% what a force for good we could be.
I think it can be summed up…
“Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they marveled at him.”
Mark 12:17 ESV
In other words learn to be a kind of person that yields fruit that worships God by doing God’s justice.
God will be most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in Him, and the world will then marvel at him. Eventually!
Try to give at lest 23 just to set a bar lol
Everyone I know is struggling for money. I actually hate tithing because churches do it wrong. They expect you to do it publicly and they watch you. They don't cover the bucket.
Jay's nan does have money and they treat her like she's wadded and she was ill and didn't go to church for a month, they demanded what she normally gives per week. Didn't care she was ill...
Wait, what about Matth 23:23 and Luke 11:42 where Jesus says it is RIGHT to give tithe WITHOUT neglecting the weightier matters??
The time period when Jesus was physically on earth was under the Old Covenant era. Jesus refers to John the Baptist as the last and greatest Old Testament Prophet. The New Testament/Covenant is initiated at Christ's resurrection and becomes the Church age at Pentecost.
Jesus was addressing people who were under the contract between Israel and God (the Mosaic Covenant). Those outside Israel were never under that contract.
Even today’s Jews are not under that contract. Israel defaulted on its obligations and God fulfilled His. Israel has been under the penalty clause of the contract since they rejected Messiah.
@@ricksonora6656
Praise God, and one day soon Israel will be restored, God keeps His promises...
Yes, and this was Jesus himself who said this. Please Sean, could you react to that above @mikef5365. Thanks
@@williamalderman7990 Based on your submission, it means all the instructions given by JESUS should be thrown away since JESUS talked under the Old Covenant. JESUS said it and that is all that matters to me.
What about Mattew 23 vs 23b?
The tithe is a good starting point for the Believer. However it is not required.
Anyone who just focuses on what they HAVE to do is not walking in love; just ask a wife if she wants her husband to do the minimum requirements and nothing else.
Tithes are not mandatory nor are they bad/wrong; give generously while being led by the Spirit. In the end the Lord wants ALL of us.
Money is the root of all evil
Tithing is part of the Covenant for the Redeemed of Yehovah. If you are not in the Covenant, then this conversation is irrelevant. Aviynu Elohenu Yehovah told me to Tithe.
Tithing percentage should be based on the church annual income and finance report to the congregation through elected representatives and subsequent income disclosure and means tests.
I mean if you're getting technical. Tithing existed before the law was given.
It wasn’t a command, however-it was voluntarily given by Abraham, and not instructional for all believers at all times. Also, if you read the Mosaic law on tithing, tithes weren’t money, like most give today. In fact there was specific instruction to convert your tithe from money to goods to be used in service of the Lord; so there is no direct parallel to tithing.
Indeed, "technically" but Abram paid tithe to Melcezadek in Genesis to honor for victory and this was only from those spoils of war, not from his wealth, also, was not in perpetuity. Remember, this was in the Era of "You bless me, I bless you! You curse me, I curse you!" Jacob promised a tithe as long as God blesses him and he commits into perpetuity. Again, "only as long as... " The tithe requirement is under the Torah Mosaic Law in Leviticus. This impacts the reason for the charge in Malachi. They violated the Law while thinking they were doing good when they weren't. This does not imply nor imposes the Christian in the New Testament/Covenant is under the same "tithe" obligation/requirement. Yes, we as with all things give from the attitude of love for Jesus Christ and not under/thru obligation/requirement.
Nope. Tithing is an obligation. Abraham gave freely.
@@ricksonora6656 indeed, he paid from the spoils of war and not from his total wealth and was not perpetuity.
@@gilwaa Perhaps, but paying tithes in the old testament like all offerings were not necessary converted "money". By the time the Mosaic Law was instituted, tithing under the Mosaic Law became a requirement.
Give to charities that do as much good as possible for the money.
Not to churches that, according to Sean, is lying to you about tithes.
Let god provide for the priests. Because god does stuff in the world, right?
Lying and being wrong are very different. Assuming that a man is lying, just because he’s wrong, is arrogant.
You must be Catholic or non Christian. In biblical Christianity, every believer is a priest, and Jesus is our High Priest. We have pastors, but they aren’t a ruling class like in Catholicism. At least, they aren’t supposed to be.
And, wrong: God has delegated to the flock the provision for pastors. Giving for charity and for the livelihood of pastors is not an either/or.
@@ricksonora6656 "God has delegated to the flock the provision for pastors"
Brilliant: "God told me it's your responsibility to give me your money".
This is so transparent. This is how you get fleeced by buying an invisible product for real money.
@@adamruuth5562 That makes no sense. All claims with no supporting logic.
If you're not required to tithe, that makes it easier to buy Sean's books.
@SeanMcDowell
Wow... This sounds so much like a scam, I can't believe it is not one, too bad this so-called "All-Powerful God" does not have the power to provide for its own ministers and his priests himself, right Sean?? "Not A Scam"
God has delegated to every believer the task of providing for church functions and personnel. Your argument is nonsensical.
@@ricksonora6656
But of course, personnel and functions required a lot of money, and God, certainly; is not without bankers and money lenders, that makes perfect sense
@@XDRONIN yes God could easily provide but he wants to grow our character and giving is part of that character.
@@markwarne5049
Wouldn't the church grow more "Character" if God had commanded them to care for themselves instead of depending on others?? Self-reliance builds character, no dependency
@@ricksonora6656 Very nonsensical