Pastor Xolani Nkosi thank you for the Explanations of Liberal Theology (suspicion of the scripture) of vs Evangelical theology (sola scriptura)….Thank God for Evangelical Approach unto the scripture...the bible is the infallible word of God-Apostle Rathebe 18:00'-25:45' Dangers of liberal theology No second coming - Ps Gobhozi No Hell - Ps Gobhozi No Tithe Ps Gobhozi No woman Pastors- Ps Gobhozi 1 Timothy 6:20 Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge. This finale Choose for yourself which school of thought to follow and choose right.
Both pastors are good, I also appreciate their academic accolades, and thanks to pastor Siba. He is doing a great job. However the panelists are not going deep enough to explain the terms. Now they are preachng to us rather. We need to know when was the hell created, what is abbys, hades, Lucifer etc.. they need to expain these terms categorically. We dont hear them getting into different bible versions which are a concern which comes to this subject.
As 21 century generation we applaud for such candidates: Jiyane, Gobhozi, Nkosi and Reathabela, We Thank you Siba. Unesibindi mfoka Dlamini, I still stand and say schools of thoughts is good because we get lots of information as the Word of God says "people are perishing because they lack of information"
Siba this is an interesting topic, for fairness i think bringing the previous guests together with these ones will really be appreciated because all these speakers are good in how they express their views but if they are not in one room together its easy to misquote others and have one sided view. Siyabonga for such topics✨
I hear you however it is my humble opinion that doing that will defeat the purpose of these presentations because it will turn out to be a debate between ubani o interpreter correctly than other rather than presentation of different approach n thoughts into this discussion It will be an argument of school of thoughts which in my view, will not profit none I think the way it was conducted was to present both aspects separately so that "us" can decide which one we go with Regards
Thanks for today's discussion it does bring sense and tranquility I love these 2 men of God or rather their evangelical approach . Ngiyayibonga eka Dr Jiyane no Mr Given hay uvele uzizwe uba more confused as you try to follow their approach . Mr Dlamini SIYABONGA KAKHULU kuyasho ukuthi you are a NEW GENERATION you are trying to help everyone emibuzweni eminingi evame ukufaka ukuphikisana kubantu .Your PROGRAMME is surely GOD SENT kuningi ekumbulayo ikucacise iyaluqinisa ukholo lwethu . Siyabonga kakhulu sesifile i INTELLECT efaka ukudideka . BIG UPS MEN OF GOD THERE PROUD OF YOU ALL . ANIBUSISE UBABA WETHU AQHUBEKE NOKUNEZELA ULWAZI NEBANDLA LIKA KRESTU LANDE UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP . Besiyowezwa kuphi lamadoda ahlukene kaNkulunkulu osilethela wona MAHHALA WOW WE REALLY APPLAUD YOUR INITIATIVE .
Wow wow wow! We thank GOD for you, befundisi. You have both redeemed this topic. Cishe salahleka siyibandla likaKhrestu! GOD bless you both! Nawe Siba…lol
Now I know why Apostle Rathebe didn't come last week. It wasn't logistical, but he didn't want to be together with Jiyane and Gobhozi because their views are different, he didn't want to debate.
Yeah Debating will pose alot of confusion hence allowing two different presentations to take place I think the way it was separately is good because the intention is not to debate but to present views to the viewers
Great show Ps Dlamini. Thanks for bringing back Apostle Rathebe. Ps Nkosi was appreciated as well. The topic was not finished yet we have not dealt with existence of heaven. Please bring back these man of God as you did. Ps Gobhozi and Dr Jiyana and Apostle Rathebe and Ps Nkosi they must follow don't put them in a same setting
Ubaba u Rathebe spent two weeks with people he disagrees with but could not state his position 4 two programs. Interestingly, the third time transportation issues 🤔🤔🤔, boom he comes conveniently when they are not invited and disagrees... Jiyane and Gobozi should have been invited as well. It would have been good if Rathebe was honest in the first place but he decided to hide in two programs. Very disappointing!!!
Greetings My Brother, You know Sometimes you don't have to make noise in arguing or raise the negative but rather the positive, sometimes the HOLY SPIRIT will make you to be silent, meaning when HE instructs You to Speak, you do not talk Your mind but what the SPIRIT says, not raising the false teachings but rather the TRUTH. JESUS says...."And If I be lifted up from the earth, will draw All Men unto ME" not that "If you do not raise the enemy,,,,,,,,,,,,,," It is all about JESUS and HIM alone.
@@SOG_COG013 ngokujwayelekile hlezi kuba khona abantu abanemibono ehlukile kuloluhlelo selokhu lwaqala, yingakho uSiba eze ethi kuze kubukeke engathi kuyaxatshanwa sometimes kodwa kusuke kungenjalo, manje if befika ngokuhlukana sekubukeka engathi abanye they here to prove ukuthi abanye bebebheda, and they also misinterpret what Jiyane said and akekho ukuziphendulela, its not about ukuthi ubani obusayo or ozwakala kangcono kunomunye but kuhlaziywa izwi then olalele ekhaya alalele okuhambisana naye
Thank GOD it was a final episode, I have a feeling, operation cleansing took place la izolo lol, let Me watch and hear what The LORD says, to GOD be the Glory!!!!
Apostle Rathebe syabonga today you have more stance, I know you don't like this thing of arguing with other people's views. This one was the powerful session on this topic and I think you did justice to the topic.
Oh yessssssssss, this is very good, oh yes Apostle waze wafika I'm grateful eii noPrincipal naye was turning the stones Evangelical Approach ne I think this topic was covered sufficiently and today's presentation I think is the one that most of us subscribe to as Bazalwane Thank you Power Hour, keep the good work up and may God keep on using you We love you kakhulu
Powerful Siba. What if guests do not disclose their belonging in terms of school of thoughts. Let them be mentioned only for the purpose of knowledge to class.One may judge the speaker subjectively because of a particular school not about fundamental points of writings. I so wish topics like these be done repeatedly for saints capacitance. God bless you all, in Jesus name
dankie Nyanda, nami ngamuzwa as usho, waze wathi they were locked because laba ababavalela babengafuni igazi labavalelwe libuzwe ezandleni zabo, ngixakekile usiba esethi Jiyane said they were hiding
The Bible doesn't say that those people or saints were alive but were dead not locked in or hiding but dead. Read it again Matthew 27:52-53 Read verse 52 and 53
Lamadoda madala and aqatha, I don't believe kwi-theology but their reasoning is Powerful. Bashoda ngeSeventh Seal ukuthi bavale ngehlahla kumbuso kasatane.
Thanks for another school of thought, however both panelists (previous and current) haven't done justice on the origin of Satan, angikhulumi ke on the topic of Heaven.
Cha uRathebe be kufanele aqale ahlambuluke ukuthi usephendukile, he can't come nje nge last episode as if he was not there during the previous episode, he failed to clarify iposition yakhe regarding hell
Evangelism theology overinterpret scriptures, as born again Christian I have exposed in that theology I understand it well, interpret beyond interpretation which end up out of context.
How can we get explanations about God by Hebrew language? Abe eyazi uThixo ukuba singamaxhosa naMazulu, do you think God can be so selfish when it comes understand him by our language?
The panelists are mistaken.. Abezizwe abekho ku Act 2. The different Bible versions are contradicting.. Check different version on Act 2:5.. If they were included, the Peter's vision to consume unclean animals was not necessary.
Siba on Gobhozi and Jiyani : "Ababukeli want to know if.../These are the questions viewers have" Siba on Rathebe and Nkosi : "What do you say about what Jiyani and Gobhozi said last week about..." Now Gobhozi and Jiyani will not get their chance to respond to the two gentlemen as well for fairness.
Siyabonga Nceku Rathebe ne nceku Nkosi bayekeni abangakholelwa ku Jesu ne Zulu nesihogo yiqiniso asinikwanga I msg nokutshumayela nge hell sinikwe I msg yokuphakamisa bafowethu azini lokhu I doctrine ayiphenduki kuphenduka umuntu
I am not happy with how it began, yes the word Hell is there, but I think people need to understand the word Hell and in relation to what people have been taught, the eternal burning, suffering.... does that place exist literally.
Siba angibuze maan la _ngiphume nje kancane kwi topic la _ama doctrine abuyaphi!? Ngu nkulunkulu lo esimkhonzayo obeka umuntu athi lo ungu mphrofethi lo ungumvangeli!! Kanjani mase kunaba phrofethi ababhadalwayo ?asiyi beka la ngoba kuningi maan okudidayo.
Greetings Gerald, kuningi ukuhlangahlangana okwenzekile eBandleni/eMzimbeni, IBandla uMzimba ka KRESTU JESU kusho iZWI, but isikhathi sesifikile la kuzohlukaniswa khona. Angithi uMzimba nje normally uhlukene ngokwemisebenzi, ikhanda to ezinyaweni but kunezinto okuthi ngokuhamba kwesikhathi zikhishwe ziphuma kuwona umzimba ngoba zisuke zingasadingakali ngoba zingukungcola and ukuhlala kwazo zingakhishwa zingenza umonakalo khona emzimbeni, can I preach this one....lol
@@SOG_COG013 awuchubeke nayo ngizwe _I have a friend ongumfundisi AKA "prophet" ngamuzwa akhuluma over the phone athi bamfunele umuntu ozobiza umnikelo kuzwakale ku revival yakhe!!!😑😑konakele maan konakele.
@@geraldsambo5727 Yes my Brother...nami Ngezwa omunye uMfundisi ngibuya eNtshukumweni encoma ethi "Uyazi lo Mprofethi uyakwazi ukuqoqa imali" The HOLY SPIRIT in Me was grieved even more because kwathi nje esashumayela yena the so called "prophet of god" I began to write things uMOYA oNGCWELE ayezisho one line I remember wathi " BANGAPHINDE BAMBUYISE LO MFUNDISI LA UNLESS UMA INTSHUKUMO SEYASHINTSHA YANGABIZWA NGE GAMA LAMI!!!!, FUTHI LO MNIKELO NOMA UNGAMNINGI KANGAKANANI ANGEKE UBASEBENZELE, BANGANIKELA BONKE BUT WENA AWUYI KO NIKELA LAPHANA!!!!!!" Sengithethiswa ke , but as uMzalwane okholelwayo nofundisekile nge Principle of Giving, so ngathi ukuphoxeka uma kuthiwa ngingayi konikela, fast forward as the Journey of the LORD continues, nganikezwa i understanding why kwakungamele ngiyonikela, it's because owayenconywa ngokunikelisa kahle was a cult and a deep false prophet who is highly anointed esuka leeeee waza laaa ezoganga, but hey Our GOD has come babanjiwe boooooooonke ogalakajana looool.......
I once heard Bishop T. E Twala ethi if ungamazi ukuthi ungubani, don't bother him with your problems, meaning if you don't give him money, don't bother him, he said abo brother give him their bank cards to swipe for anything but when they get married they stop giving to the church, so yena he is tired of praying for sisters who want umshado but they don't want their husbands banikele like before. He also said he is so disappointed by abo sister who he prayed for to get jobs but in return they buy Picanto cars and Brazilian hair besebenikela nge R300 yokweshumi. I guess there's nothing for free these days.
Ps Dlamini we thank you for our guests.but they don't answer the question,Sikhona yini isihogo? For me pastor Rathebe is trying to be relevant, firstly he agreed with Dr jiyane and Ps gobhozi,but today Ps Nkosi believes that the is hell,he agrees with him, for me he is wavering in his beliefs.i wish Ps Siba,u can get people who will answer the question of the existence of hell and heaven.your guest did little about explaining the existence of hell.
Amen sir; I think Mr Rathebe answered this by the book of Revelation 20 vs 12-15 by this book he was trying to answer the question of the existance of hell: please listen him again🤝
Siba is not doing justice to the show jiba didn't say they went to hide they were taken there by force you should have asked them to come so to answer for themselves because they are being misqouted
Pastor Siba please try and hide your Biaseness,it is so evident that you support what these panelists are saying and against what Bab Gobhozi and Jiyane were saying
Bring the previous speakers together with these speakers, that can be the finale. If the intention is to have a balanced dialog.
I agree with you, because Ps Rathebe he agreed with them but today,he agrees with Ps Nkosi
Pastor Xolani Nkosi thank you for the Explanations of Liberal Theology (suspicion of the scripture) of vs Evangelical theology (sola scriptura)….Thank God for Evangelical Approach unto the scripture...the bible is the infallible word of God-Apostle Rathebe 18:00'-25:45'
Dangers of liberal theology
No second coming - Ps Gobhozi
No Hell - Ps Gobhozi
No Tithe Ps Gobhozi
No woman Pastors- Ps Gobhozi
1 Timothy 6:20
Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge. This finale
Choose for yourself which school of thought to follow and choose right.
Both pastors are good, I also appreciate their academic accolades, and thanks to pastor Siba. He is doing a great job. However the panelists are not going deep enough to explain the terms. Now they are preachng to us rather. We need to know when was the hell created, what is abbys, hades, Lucifer etc.. they need to expain these terms categorically. We dont hear them getting into different bible versions which are a concern which comes to this subject.
As 21 century generation we applaud for such candidates: Jiyane, Gobhozi, Nkosi and Reathabela, We Thank you Siba. Unesibindi mfoka Dlamini, I still stand and say schools of thoughts is good because we get lots of information as the Word of God says "people are perishing because they lack of information"
Ngiyabezwa kakhulu baphethe into yasekhaya 🙌🙌🙌🙌thankyou Zweli
Syabonga kakhulu Babu Dlamini ngaze ngabusiseka namhlanje yazi angideli uklalela ngendlela abenze ngayo ublungiswa abafundisi isandla sdlula ikhanda Ameeen
Thank you Siba for bringing ps Dlamini and ps Rathebe, we needed this clarity, now I understand
Ukuthula Babu mfundisi uDlamini ngiyabonga kakhulu nge final episode besengimangele ukuthi why manje salahlwa ubaba wethu uRathebe but usenelise sonke uqale ngalaba abathi isihogo asikho waphinde wanelisa nathi esithi isihogo sikhona siyabonga kakhulu nokusilethele ubaba othobekile kangaka nogcwele ukuhlakanipha okungaka besengika sengikhalela laba abasabambe ukuthi kwathiwa asikho isihogo kodwa sibonga kakhulu ukubakhona kukamfundisi uNkosi kwenze ubaba uRathebe waba umuntu esimaziyo thanks God ubesengidida thanks again baba God bless you
Siba this is an interesting topic, for fairness i think bringing the previous guests together with these ones will really be appreciated because all these speakers are good in how they express their views but if they are not in one room together its easy to misquote others and have one sided view. Siyabonga for such topics✨
I totally agree with you 🙏😔
I agree brother because these guest are starting to use emotions to explain the scriptures
I hear you however it is my humble opinion that doing that will defeat the purpose of these presentations because it will turn out to be a debate between ubani o interpreter correctly than other rather than presentation of different approach n thoughts into this discussion
It will be an argument of school of thoughts which in my view, will not profit none
I think the way it was conducted was to present both aspects separately so that "us" can decide which one we go with
Regards
I totally agree, kungakuhle mabengaba ndawonye
Nam ndiyavumelana nani bafobethu
Apostle Rathebe, Pastor Nkosi thank you...
Thanks for today's discussion it does bring sense and tranquility I love these 2 men of God or rather their evangelical approach . Ngiyayibonga eka Dr Jiyane no Mr Given hay uvele uzizwe uba more confused as you try to follow their approach . Mr Dlamini SIYABONGA KAKHULU kuyasho ukuthi you are a NEW GENERATION you are trying to help everyone emibuzweni eminingi evame ukufaka ukuphikisana kubantu .Your PROGRAMME is surely GOD SENT kuningi ekumbulayo ikucacise iyaluqinisa ukholo lwethu . Siyabonga kakhulu sesifile i INTELLECT efaka ukudideka . BIG UPS MEN OF GOD THERE PROUD OF YOU ALL . ANIBUSISE UBABA WETHU AQHUBEKE NOKUNEZELA ULWAZI NEBANDLA LIKA KRESTU LANDE UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP . Besiyowezwa kuphi lamadoda ahlukene kaNkulunkulu osilethela wona MAHHALA WOW WE REALLY APPLAUD YOUR INITIATIVE .
Siyabonga bafundisi Sicelo this is power hour
Wow wow wow! We thank GOD for you, befundisi. You have both redeemed this topic. Cishe salahleka siyibandla likaKhrestu! GOD bless you both! Nawe Siba…lol
I concur with you Agnes!!!!
Now I know why Apostle Rathebe didn't come last week. It wasn't logistical, but he didn't want to be together with Jiyane and Gobhozi because their views are different, he didn't want to debate.
Yeah
Debating will pose alot of confusion hence allowing two different presentations to take place
I think the way it was separately is good because the intention is not to debate but to present views to the viewers
Coward
This shouldn't have been our last episode
Great show Ps Dlamini. Thanks for bringing back Apostle Rathebe. Ps Nkosi was appreciated as well. The topic was not finished yet we have not dealt with existence of heaven. Please bring back these man of God as you did. Ps Gobhozi and Dr Jiyana and Apostle Rathebe and Ps Nkosi they must follow don't put them in a same setting
Greetings Muzi, uMOYA oGCWELE is Our Final final episode now and going forward....
Correct Madam. His our counselor and teacher
I personally think the previous guest don’t disagree about the existence of hell, they just want to recognize it as death
Ubaba u Rathebe spent two weeks with people he disagrees with but could not state his position 4 two programs.
Interestingly, the third time transportation issues 🤔🤔🤔, boom he comes conveniently when they are not invited and disagrees...
Jiyane and Gobozi should have been invited as well.
It would have been good if Rathebe was honest in the first place but he decided to hide in two programs. Very disappointing!!!
nami ngithi ababizwe babekhona bonke qhawe lami silalele bechaza behlaziya izwi kanyekanye
Greetings My Brother, You know Sometimes you don't have to make noise in arguing or raise the negative but rather the positive, sometimes the HOLY SPIRIT will make you to be silent, meaning when HE instructs You to Speak, you do not talk Your mind but what the SPIRIT says, not raising the false teachings but rather the TRUTH.
JESUS says...."And If I be lifted up from the earth, will draw All Men unto ME"
not that "If you do not raise the enemy,,,,,,,,,,,,,," It is all about JESUS and HIM alone.
@@musawenkosicele9621 Bhuti....Kunento ethi.....Amakhosi amabili awabusi esibayeni esisodwa.....
@@SOG_COG013 ngokujwayelekile hlezi kuba khona abantu abanemibono ehlukile kuloluhlelo selokhu lwaqala, yingakho uSiba eze ethi kuze kubukeke engathi kuyaxatshanwa sometimes kodwa kusuke kungenjalo, manje if befika ngokuhlukana sekubukeka engathi abanye they here to prove ukuthi abanye bebebheda, and they also misinterpret what Jiyane said and akekho ukuziphendulela, its not about ukuthi ubani obusayo or ozwakala kangcono kunomunye but kuhlaziywa izwi then olalele ekhaya alalele okuhambisana naye
AGREEING AS WELL ON THAT THEY MUST NOT BE PUT IN THE SAME SETTING
Great discussion, still disagree with the issue of lucifer, Satan is not lucifer, I believe justice was not done in disputing that part
Thank GOD it was a final episode, I have a feeling, operation cleansing took place la izolo lol, let Me watch and hear what The LORD says, to GOD be the Glory!!!!
Now am healed: thank you lord🤝
Apostle Rathebe syabonga today you have more stance, I know you don't like this thing of arguing with other people's views.
This one was the powerful session on this topic and I think you did justice to the topic.
We share the same sentiments on this one, and thank GOD a second chance to Boldness was given.
Baba Rathebe yu so powerful ukuthi ungabaza amandla'kho
Thanks you guys weldone keep it up doing good work.
Oh yessssssssss, this is very good, oh yes Apostle waze wafika I'm grateful eii noPrincipal naye was turning the stones
Evangelical Approach ne
I think this topic was covered sufficiently and today's presentation I think is the one that most of us subscribe to as Bazalwane
Thank you Power Hour, keep the good work up and may God keep on using you
We love you kakhulu
Powerful Siba. What if guests do not disclose their belonging in terms of school of thoughts. Let them be mentioned only for the purpose of knowledge to class.One may judge the speaker subjectively because of a particular school not about fundamental points of writings. I so wish topics like these be done repeatedly for saints capacitance. God bless you all, in Jesus name
BIG UPS FOR I POWER HOUR
Can we have another finale that has Gobhozi, and Dr Jiyane also present
I agree with Bab Rathebe concerning Gentile's presence I think the apostle James Acts 15 confirms it.
Previous speakers especially Jiyane on the issue of graves is highly misquoted. He didn't say they were hiding, He said they were locked there
dankie Nyanda, nami ngamuzwa as usho, waze wathi they were locked because laba ababavalela babengafuni igazi labavalelwe libuzwe ezandleni zabo, ngixakekile usiba esethi Jiyane said they were hiding
The Bible doesn't say that those people or saints were alive but were dead not locked in or hiding but dead. Read it again Matthew 27:52-53
Read verse 52 and 53
Isihogo sikhona. Case closed thank you bafundisi
So interesting Siba Thank you so much ❤🙌
A 2-faced God.
Malachi 3:6 “For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed."
These pastors are playing with us, there's no shadow of turning with God, He doesnt have 2 sides
Ey kodwa Ps Dlamini ungibuzela kamnandi kuleziziNceku uma usuthi "So niyaychitha le...."😀
ngasho ngathi lawamadoda ashoda ngabantu azobabuza imbuzo. they tried dribbling us with formulated arguments
Lamadoda madala and aqatha, I don't believe kwi-theology but their reasoning is Powerful. Bashoda ngeSeventh Seal ukuthi bavale ngehlahla kumbuso kasatane.
Thanks for another school of thought, however both panelists (previous and current) haven't done justice on the origin of Satan, angikhulumi ke on the topic of Heaven.
Cha uRathebe be kufanele aqale ahlambuluke ukuthi usephendukile, he can't come nje nge last episode as if he was not there during the previous episode, he failed to clarify iposition yakhe regarding hell
uBaba uRathebe is assertive.
Evangelism theology overinterpret scriptures, as born again Christian I have exposed in that theology I understand it well, interpret beyond interpretation which end up out of context.
How can we get explanations about God by Hebrew language? Abe eyazi uThixo ukuba singamaxhosa naMazulu, do you think God can be so selfish when it comes understand him by our language?
Sicela ubizo ubaba ugobhozi nikhulume indaba yezilimi ngiyacela
This can't be the Final Episode 😔‼️
The panelists are mistaken.. Abezizwe abekho ku Act 2.
The different Bible versions are contradicting.. Check different version on Act 2:5..
If they were included, the Peter's vision to consume unclean animals was not necessary.
Zippoah was not the Cushite woman in Number 12
U Rathebe uyigwala first episode wavumelana nabathi isihogo asikho ku following episode wabaleka wangeza, usefika ngoba u Gobhozi no Jiyane bengekho and akaxolisi ukuthi wavuma ukuth isihogo asikho, ngibona impakamo lapho. Abantu abayeke ukusonta bakhuleke uNkulunkulu abagcwalise ngomoya ongcwele uyena ozobafundisa ibhayibheli. Okubalulekile watch The Narrow Gate channel with Sister Musandiwa uzofunda mayelana nokugcina imiyalo ka Nkulunkulu.
True, but you should be concerned with your choice of words.
This is NOT complete. We need additional episodes about 3 hours of discussion left.
Siyabonga bafundisi ukuyicacisa kungadukiswa abazalwane ngenxa yama-school of thoughts.Siyacela oPst Gobhozi bangashumayeli amagsch.of thoughts but Ivangeli ngoba akithi sonke esifundela ukuhlaziya but ukuphila impilo yombuso KANKULUNKULU bangadlulisi amatheories more than Ivangeli.
Siba on Gobhozi and Jiyani : "Ababukeli want to know if.../These are the questions viewers have"
Siba on Rathebe and Nkosi : "What do you say about what Jiyani and Gobhozi said last week about..."
Now Gobhozi and Jiyani will not get their chance to respond to the two gentlemen as well for fairness.
Invite 4 of them for 2 episodes, the final of this manner is conjucive
Izono zabo uyozithalalisa likhona izwi elisho njalo kwizenzo?
Ps Given should have been here, at least to put context to their statements.
This guys were using context.
Hi Gentlemen, if Nebuchadnezzar was redeemed, then you guys you are saying Satan is redeemed, are you sure , are you not confused?.
I am not satisfied with this episode. There is no Justice.
ah Rathebe mfwethu syabonga
Siyabonga Nceku Rathebe ne nceku Nkosi bayekeni abangakholelwa ku Jesu ne Zulu nesihogo yiqiniso asinikwanga I msg nokutshumayela nge hell sinikwe I msg yokuphakamisa bafowethu azini lokhu I doctrine ayiphenduki kuphenduka umuntu
@@luckychonco5762 ubani qhawe osephike izulu noJesu?
I am not happy with how it began, yes the word Hell is there, but I think people need to understand the word Hell and in relation to what people have been taught, the eternal burning, suffering.... does that place exist literally.
Siba angibuze maan la _ngiphume nje kancane kwi topic la _ama doctrine abuyaphi!? Ngu nkulunkulu lo esimkhonzayo obeka umuntu athi lo ungu mphrofethi lo ungumvangeli!! Kanjani mase kunaba phrofethi ababhadalwayo ?asiyi beka la ngoba kuningi maan okudidayo.
Greetings Gerald, kuningi ukuhlangahlangana okwenzekile eBandleni/eMzimbeni, IBandla uMzimba ka KRESTU JESU kusho iZWI, but isikhathi sesifikile la kuzohlukaniswa khona. Angithi uMzimba nje normally uhlukene ngokwemisebenzi, ikhanda to ezinyaweni but kunezinto okuthi ngokuhamba kwesikhathi zikhishwe ziphuma kuwona umzimba ngoba zisuke zingasadingakali ngoba zingukungcola and ukuhlala kwazo zingakhishwa zingenza umonakalo khona emzimbeni, can I preach this one....lol
@@SOG_COG013 awuchubeke nayo ngizwe _I have a friend ongumfundisi AKA "prophet" ngamuzwa akhuluma over the phone athi bamfunele umuntu ozobiza umnikelo kuzwakale ku revival yakhe!!!😑😑konakele maan konakele.
@@geraldsambo5727 Yes my Brother...nami Ngezwa omunye uMfundisi ngibuya eNtshukumweni encoma ethi "Uyazi lo Mprofethi uyakwazi ukuqoqa imali" The HOLY SPIRIT in Me was grieved even more because kwathi nje esashumayela yena the so called "prophet of god" I began to write things uMOYA oNGCWELE ayezisho one line I remember wathi " BANGAPHINDE BAMBUYISE LO MFUNDISI LA UNLESS UMA INTSHUKUMO SEYASHINTSHA YANGABIZWA NGE GAMA LAMI!!!!, FUTHI LO MNIKELO NOMA UNGAMNINGI KANGAKANANI ANGEKE UBASEBENZELE, BANGANIKELA BONKE BUT WENA AWUYI KO NIKELA LAPHANA!!!!!!"
Sengithethiswa ke , but as uMzalwane okholelwayo nofundisekile nge Principle of Giving, so ngathi ukuphoxeka uma kuthiwa ngingayi konikela, fast forward as the Journey of the LORD continues, nganikezwa i understanding why kwakungamele ngiyonikela, it's because owayenconywa ngokunikelisa kahle was a cult and a deep false prophet who is highly anointed esuka leeeee waza laaa ezoganga, but hey Our GOD has come babanjiwe boooooooonke ogalakajana looool.......
@@SOG_COG013 haikhona basashoda our own brothers abezi ukuzoshumayela Uma ingekho imvelopho eceleni ungilungise Uma sengibheda my sister!! ? Lento Yama "doctrine" ubani lo oyidisay'dako ukuthi umfundisi onje uyilokhu onje uyilokhu!! Ngumoya?njengoba nezwi nalo laphefumulelwa?!
I once heard Bishop T. E Twala ethi if ungamazi ukuthi ungubani, don't bother him with your problems, meaning if you don't give him money, don't bother him, he said abo brother give him their bank cards to swipe for anything but when they get married they stop giving to the church, so yena he is tired of praying for sisters who want umshado but they don't want their husbands banikele like before.
He also said he is so disappointed by abo sister who he prayed for to get jobs but in return they buy Picanto cars and Brazilian hair besebenikela nge R300 yokweshumi.
I guess there's nothing for free these days.
haha.. why you want to bring the previous guests? anifuni kthiwa bayi missile lol
cha ababizwe bonke sizwe bechaza kanyekanye, lento ifana nangeskhathi sobandlululo makunecala lomuntu onsundu against omhlophe ekuthiwa babengena ngokuhlukana enkantolo kodwa kube kuthethwa icala elilodwa, nalana cz udaba lunye abebekhona kanyekanye silalele
Ps Dlamini we thank you for our guests.but they don't answer the question,Sikhona yini isihogo? For me pastor Rathebe is trying to be relevant, firstly he agreed with Dr jiyane and Ps gobhozi,but today Ps Nkosi believes that the is hell,he agrees with him, for me he is wavering in his beliefs.i wish Ps Siba,u can get people who will answer the question of the existence of hell and heaven.your guest did little about explaining the existence of hell.
Amen sir; I think Mr Rathebe answered this by the book of Revelation 20 vs 12-15 by this book he was trying to answer the question of the existance of hell: please listen him again🤝
Siba is not doing justice to the show jiba didn't say they went to hide they were taken there by force you should have asked them to come so to answer for themselves because they are being misqouted
true sir
Mfundisi Dlamini you made an error in this episode coz the no clarity in all this dialogue
I hope to see 5th episode with JIYENE OR GOBHOZI
dankie Mapholoba impela ukhuluma iphutha manje uSiba ngokwashiwo uJiyane, ababizwe bonke silalele bekhona bonke kanyekanye
Ayibongwe ngyazi ngilate kakhulu but izinceku lah ziba misqoutee zaze zayophuma o jiyane no gobhozi lokho kwenza intoyabo ingazwakali kahle...ngyabonga sibalukhulu
Is hell real? This question can be answered only in 15 minutes. So much unnecessary arguments are made here and the question is not attended at all……
Let's have Apostle Rathebe and pastor Skhakhane vs Gobozi and doctor Jiyane .. final final episode
Pastor Siba please try and hide your Biaseness,it is so evident that you support what these panelists are saying and against what Bab Gobhozi and Jiyane were saying
You can't hide a truth so Mr Dlamini is right
@@senzongiba4942 Amen, to some point, he is a Pastor too.
Siba ayezwakala ama panelist akho kodwa anyanyalatile ekuchazeni isihogo (Hell) Kanye nezulu (Heven), bezwakele bona kuphela bebenfafundisi kodwa bathathe bangena emoyeni
They were responding based on questions that were probed by Ps Siba.
Vele ujesu kungamanga ukuthi wazalwa ngale kokuthi kulalwe. Yena uthi uyisperm sikadavide kichaza ukuthini loko? 2 isprofetho sithini ngokuzalwa kwakhe cz if ezozalwe ngalendlela enisho ngayo kusho ukuthi isiprofetho asifezekanga...watch virgin birth deception uzobona