Why Hitler Hated Christiantiy | Tom Holland
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2023
- In this Clip, John and Tom Holland discuss Hitler's fundamental reasons for hating Christianity. The idea that "there is no Jew or Greek" - that all are In this clip, John and Tom Holland Hitler's fundamental reasons for hating Christianity. The idea that "there is no Jew or Greek" - that all people are created with inherent dignity - conflicted and destroyed Hitler's ideal of strength and classical civilisation.
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Tom Holland is an award-winning historian, author and broadcaster. He is the author of many award-winning books on topics ranging from Ancient Rome and the Persian Empire to the origins of the Islamic faith. Despite his non-belief, Holland’s most recent book, Dominion, is a sweeping account of the impact of Christianity on foundational Western institutions, constitutional norms, morality and social outlooks. It is one of the most compelling histories of Christendom yet written.
Tom Holland served two years as the Chair of the Society of Authors and is Chair of the British Library’s PLR Advisory Committee. Holland is the presenter of BBC Radio 4’s Making History. He has written and presented a number of TV documentaries, for the BBC and Channel 4, on subjects ranging from ISIS to dinosaurs. He is also the host of a widely popular history podcast called The Rest Is History.
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The Nazis essentially espoused a crude version of Nietzsche’s critique of Christianity.
More like its logical outworking
Nazi Germany was 95% Christian.
It kind of is true that Christianity's compassion is destroying the societies that Christianity built, by people who now reject Christianity, and those who embrace it. How's that for a paradox?
Christianity is not an ethical system. It is the way of life for those who follow Christ. Taking the divine out of Christianity is in some sense the project of Adam and Eve at the Fall.
@@richardhead-sw2qc They're not entirely wrong. Nor are you, for the sake of argument. More to the point, the "breakdown of morality" you're referencing could be considered a result or byproduct of the church leaders corruption for political gain(edit: e.g.- reformation), by pushing or promoting Christian compassion in the form of "tolerance".
yes the compassion has also morphed into political correctness as not to offend anyone however thats not true christianity.
@@closertothetruth9209did Christ ever call his disciples "christians"?
@@shtfck6006 ofcourse not , disciples, israelites etc He even used quite harsh words describing the faithless and perverse,
Amen. David Satter makes this same point about communism in his book "Never Speak to Strangers". Human rights are based in the transcendent, not the immanent.
This guy doesn’t look like Spider-Man at all….
You do some interesting stuff, Mr. Anderson. Keep it up. Mr. Holland your insight grows and deepens. Look forward to hearing more from you both.
And yet what I call the Golden Age of the West, i.e., the British Victorian Era, had an odd but functional balance between secular and Christianity. Yes, the church was powerful and influential, but It was definitely not a Christian theocracy. Which is why any dictator, Left or Right, inevitably just makes a mess with their meat cleaver methods. No, the Victorian Era was a very special confluence, a perfect storm of myriad factors. And so I'm far more interested in, e.g., the delicate balance of Christianity put forth in CB's _Jane Eyre_ than any meat-cleaver-wielders from the Left or Right today.
Where is the full video please?
He looks different without his Spideperson suit.
2:44 Tom Holland please explain the freedom to roam "everyman's right" which predates Christianity in northern Europe.
Interesting. I just figured the Left can't have any large group of people acting cohesively and happily against their ridiculous notions.
Strange. I've read MK three times. Perhaps the journalists and presenters might like to take some time and check their assertions. AH was very specific about the role and importance of Xianity within the German realm. It bears little resemblance to what is stated in this interview.
Nor any of the other assertions. There were no statements made in MK on the future fate of any group.
Still. It all makes good fodder for the narrative and provides income for the peddlers of misinformation innit.
Trebles all 'round.
Like me, you've no doubt watched the brilliant documentaries: 'Europa the last battle' and 'The Greatest Story Never Told' - both of which have been banned for no other reason than they go against the narrative of those who have their hands on the levers of power - the head of the snake being the financial system.
The "winners" write the history books.
Right, the SS even had "Got Mit Uns" on their belt buckles? I think AH was more pragmatic in the religion department than what Holland thinks. He was Volk first.
@@davidegral7152 It's a bloody movie, not a documentary! A Neo-Nazi propaganda film released in 2017. Don't give me that sh*t.
MK's 'assertions?' Provide some links.
Yeah, I think that is tangential at best. I think he disliked any other ideological rivals competing for people's loyalties.
Maybe not so tangential, it looks like Holland is almost verbatim (especially the bit about St Paul) quoting Hitler's table talks. That source is of course itself a matter of controversy but it's not so illegitimate.
Agreed. Socialism of all types is a competing secular gnostic religion. Tik did a great deep dive.
It was a deliberate policy of the nazi regime to have their youth meetings and events on a Sunday to force parents and children to choose between Christ or their leader. He also made the established church leaders swear allegiance to him, and they deliberately propagated insane theologians wanting to throw out the old testament and Paul for being Jewish. To say the Nazis "disliked" Christianity is to understate their intentions. Read Boenhoffers life. He accounts for it all, and it's part of why he repudiated the state church and formed the confessing church.
"Might is right" was quite fundamental for the race-socialists
"Might is right" is just an observation, like "the winners write the history books" is.
All socialists need to employ might is right to enable the redistribution of wealth. Since when do Marxist or intersectional woke ask nicely. What class of people are responsible for killing the majority of socialists?
@@alanconway94I'd argue it is fundamental to any society, this is why our police are armed 😁
Ethics is product of culture nature interaction. In the case of Christianity, sexuality is a weakness, but it is way better than Nietzsche.
wow !
Thank you for connecting the dots Sr.
Yes, it’s crazy who thinks there’s Christianity in hate any Ethnic group , it’s just what he chose and made in his mind ,it’s a lie.
Only the Truth set us free ✝️🙏
If you are going to quote the Bible, don’t take it out of context. Paul saying there is no Jew or Gentile is in the context of the New Covenant kingdom. There is truth in the dignity of all people but you are using this passage wrongly.
No he isn't. That may not be the point of the passage, but his point is a logical and correct inference from the passage. If there is neither Jew nor Greek in Christ, then the idea that some people have human dignity and others do not, that some people are made in the image of God amd others are not, is false.
@@Tyler_W Totally agree with your inference but that is not the point of the passage.
@@davidcole1475 right, but he's using that passage to conclude that accurate inference. Just because that wasn't the point the passage was making does not mean he was abusing the passage when the logical conclusions he drew from that passage were also in accordance with scriptural truth. You're straining at gnats here.
So people don't follow Christianity if they don't want to, and yet somehow Christianity is important?
So instead you believe a society that forces its followers to follow a belief system is superior?
Were you born yesterday?
Peoples beliefs can’t be forced. All that forcing either gets rebelled against, or people fake their beliefs out of fear of repercussion
Like Kim Jun Un
Fixated on the sole idea that christ has risen, however true, was not the idea that the bible has pushed, it fixated on ideas and teachings, through him, not the “most hideous and parody paradox”
It'd be interesting to hear his views on religion at the centre of political power let alone the far right.
Isn't that where Poland is heading today, a right wing Catholic theocracy?
As opposed to the left wing catholic theocracy like the American liberation theology. Or are you on the side of the progressive socialism revolution Austrian painter from ww2.
Just asking. What's your problem?
Thanks for the info... Poland, here we come.
God mit uns - some nazi soldier
God doesn't mean Christianity 🤷♂️
which god? the gods of evil exist too
@@ensenqui probably the pagan gods or something
He might have referred to Odin and Valhalla not to a Christian god😅
Yes, he just hated it. Gott Mit Uns.
So because he used the word Gott he loved Christianity? What did he mean by Gott?
@@jamesrodgers3132 I am not a mind reader but one assumes the Catholic Church. Fascism has always been the militant arm of the Catholic Church. Christians just want to pretend it had nothing to do with it but Catholics calling a certain group Christ killers for centuries probably didn't help.
@@jamesrodgers3132 I didn't claim he or they loved Christianity. I am however quite sure it wasn't hated. Even so, it is Tom Holland making the claim, it is for him to demonstrate that they did hate what was the majority religion of the people involved.
@@jamesrodgers3132 Quote of the guy with the Charlie Chaplin moustache: "I say: My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these [people with big noses] for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter."
Why Putin loves orthodox Christianity?
He doesn't. It's just that the Orthodox hierarchy is full of his cronies from his KGB/FSB days. The real Orthodox church is struggling because we have a heretic leading the Russian church, protected by the president.
It seems to me that Putin uses his religious traditions as an instrument but does not practice, I doubt very much that he reads the word of God or understands what Jesus really is, recently I saw that he defended Muslims.
Oy Vey. 🙄
Notice how they scramble to find something, ANYTHING, to steer people away from actually finding the truth? They can't risk their biggest cash cow, the Hololo cost
Man was created in the image of God. Women where created from Man.
Misogyny at its finest
Ah, the triggering in the comment section is real. Just Go read the book.
His actions may have betrayed Christian values but Adolf frequently cited God and/or Jesus in his writings.
Meaning what? He may have used the words, but his actions showed he didn't believe the Biblical meaning of them.
@jamesrodgers3132 So he was a Christian who hated Christianity?
He said Christianity made Europeans weak
@@DaboooogAHe was a politician, and a leftist one at that. In short, a liar and manipulator.
Why are there rich people? Because there are poor people.
Because there are people who produce goods of value.
When you pay $5 for a latte at Starbucks you are indicating that latte has greater value to you than the $5. Nobody forced you or enslaved you into that transaction.
@@AndreComtois What is value? What does value mean?
That's not how wealth works. Are there wealthy people who acquired their wealth at the expense of others? Sure, absolutely, but claiming that everybody who has wealth must have gotten it at the expense of others to make them poor is both economically illiterate and a failure to understand human nature.
Blah blah.
Blah blah.
@@elizabetamedvedeva 👍💪
Comparing two equally horrible things
So much of Christianity's downfall can be blamed on Paul
It was literally Paul and company who brought Jesus to the nations. So the opposite is true.
But we follow Jesus in Paul. God just used Paul to speak and write the Lords word. We follow Jesus, Paul was just a willing body for God to use for his will.