Apparently his level 1 charge shot spam is his best aggravate playstyle. That's so lame that I believe it xD make sure as I said to go check out dedicated sethos clears for people that are min maxing him! Check out my Clorinde Ultimate Review here! ua-cam.com/video/Y2cVlS0hVoQ/v-deo.htmlsi=1xVExE3X2FxA4dkX
jello,have you tried building him for EM instead of attack and perfect crit? People recommend ~600 em for hyperbloom or even going for over 1000 sacrificing crit. Have you tested those?
It's actually far more impressive than you'd think. Electro Traveler is also one of his best supports. A Sethos, Beidou, EMC and Nahida team can take down Triple Kenki in under a minute with the level 1 charge shot playstyle.
he’s a typical “this is a 4* dps” case. i think he’s on the higher end of 4* dps though (but that can also be attributed to furina and dendro). his biggest benefit is the changing playstyles. he’s definitely a step in the right direction as far as fun and variety goes
I wonder if it's fair to say he's currently the best 4star DPS to lead a hyperbloom team. Actually in terms of mid-comparisons, I think Tighnari and Keqing are probably the ones close by in strength and relative rarity being 5 stars on standard. (Most limited 5star units are a tier above of course.)
One thing I found about Sethos is that, while his burst na spam playstyle is generally best, if you're missing only a bit of health on the last few enemies to finish the fight you can just do a couple of quick charged attacks. His charged attack playstyle has very good dps while it lasts, it's just that it doesn't last long enough and has a way too long cooldown. If, for whatever reason, you find yourself with Sethos in a situation where you need a bunch of front loaded damage you can ignore his burst and just go to town with his charged attacks. I've tested it against the ruin snake and the notoriously short dps windows it allows you, and I found that in those situations his charged attacks are way more effective than burst and na. And, with both playstyles, he's actually an above average Fischl driver in aggravate teams. I think he may genuinely be better than Keqing, if properly used. Better than Yae? His personal damage is, of course, lower than Yae, but he triggers aggravate more often, which means that, with a well built Fischl, he may actually be competitive with her, though I need to test this further. I believe with a C6 Fischl he might even get a big power boost, though I can't test it because I don't have Fischl C6 sadly (I'm a 1.0 player and my Fischl is still C2 to this day, sadge). My point is that, if used smartly, his kit may actually put him on a power level that is somewhere around some 5* characters, though nowhere near the stronger 5* of course. In that, I think he's quite similar to Gaming and Noelle, both fellow 4* characters who, in the right situations, can actually compete with some of the 5* carries (assuming those 5* carries are C0, of course). Also, that his kit makes him adaptable in a way that most other characters aren't: the only other carry who has a degree of control over the length of his rotations is Alhaitham, and that rotation flexibility is part of what makes him so good.
Amazing. Amazing getting him c6 from 140 pulls for alheithem. Still no alheithem. No c4 thoma,no c5 benett. But c6 sethos. Im close to deleting genshin for good.
Hay, if you ever felt like on Fielding fischl for some reason but realised that doesn't add any value Now, if you just close your eyes, it'll feel like you're on Fielding fischl while also driving fischl from off field. What a lovely and universally felt experience
he might not be a great 4 star, but hes certainly fun and interesting with two different playstyles, seems like sometimes 4 star kits are more interesting than some 5 stars lol
He is in the category of "4 star on-field DPS", like Yanfei, Heizou and Gaming. He won't make it to a meta team where people care about beating the most challenging content in the most efficient way. More like for people who want an extra challenge or new players who still need an on-field dps, personally I like the 4 star teams more for world exploration, makes the game more engaging for me since it requires a decent rotation to get the enemies down. Meanwhile in the open world, a single 5 star character usually beats the enemies in 1 skill o 1 burst barely using the in-game mechanics.
@@GIJoeMeerkat He is the only exception for 4 star on-field DPS, specially paired with Xianyun he is unstopable. It's a great option if you need a pyro dps and don't have Arlecchino or Hu Tao. Devs definetely wanted to make Liyue (aka China) characters relevant again in recent patches.
@lyricjam39 tbf he also had a really long development time with the devs having to add new things they have never done before so he would at least have to be good. And the reason we don't get many on field 4 star dps that are strong is because support 4 stars sell way more, and people rather have niche 4 star buffers than niche 5 star buffers
@@haydenz0 Considering his best weapen is Slingshot, even outperforming all, but one 5* I don't think he need a "budget" option, he is already increadible cheap to build if you play the game for some time. Wanderer+Slingshot.
That’s what it appears on the surface. Attack is still good actually in his secret “third playstyle” that only few know about… Just in case you are curious, it’s called spamming level 1 charged shots. It consumes much less energy than shadow piercing shot and has no icd and can proc aggravate non stop sadly it only directly scale with attack but still it’s pretty insane.
„We really need an electro shielder“ Beidou: Am I a joke to you? Jk but yea you’re kinda right. It would be nice to get a broader palette of electro charas that aren’t DPS. But that counts for almost every element *looks at Pyro and Hydro*
I can't help but feel like he's one of those "stepping stone" units for newer accounts that are limited by their character options. If a new account manages to pull a Fischl and a Sethos, all they really need is Dendro MC to have the core of a solid team in the works. Hell, you can even get by with using Barbara in the last slot for the rare Hyperbloom reaction from time to time. I just think that it's a tragedy that he's on THIS particular banner because Clorinde does Aggravate better and Alhaitham does Hyperbloom better so there's going to be a lot of people pulling for either of those units that will pick up Sethos who does a less than ideal job at either team archetype than those two 5 star units. If he had come out sooner during Fontaine or late through Sumeru, I'm sure he'd have more fans than he has now.
You are not wrong about that. As someone who pulled Clorinde from this banner I am going to put her in Aggravate, leaving no place on that team for Sethos. I am thinking of building an electrocharged team with Sethos instead, let's see how it pans out
What I like most about the charge shot is that it's visually obvious when it's ready. Diona, even Ganyu, it's so hard to tell sometimes between their burst and especially all the commotion during co-op.
I have a very honest question about your thoughts on him. Are you taking into account we're getting the new gamemode in less than a month that will focus on widening the character pool for various needs? Like, encouraging the player that it's okay to have multiple electro dps? Because to me, aside from regular 4* dps damage balancing, the only true issue with him is "he's not needed when we have others". But what if we need all of them? Even with using a character across 2 stages, we might need hodgepodge teams with multiple dps units because the supports have to be spread across more carefully. Even without that, he's perfect for a lot of early game players and exploration focus. So I'm gonna use him while catching up on some forgotten side quests.
What I saw he is good in aggravate as well. In reality as a on-field electro the only thing you need to do to clear abyss is to be a good Fischl driver and he absoltuly is. It is interesting thet you used quickbloom team, his attacks have AoE then?
@reactiondavant-garde3391 his aoe isn't that great if youre using his burst enhanced na's, but if you are using his enhanced charged attacks, it's a lot easier to hit the bloom cores
Only through constellations. Same with Hydro-mode Traveler. That means that talent scaling cannot be applied to improve the shielding. We don’t have a C0 shielder for Anemo, Electro, and Hydro.
there is a very interesting 3rd play-style of sethos that uses electro mc + kirara to aggravate with charge lvl 1 shots. the charge lvl 1 shots have no icd but dont pierce. they consume half as much energy and also get reduced charge time it is very fun and i think may be his best single-target playstyle
Ooh your take on Sethos is interesting I've had a lot of fun playing him these past couple days. I actually think he's pretty good in the overworld, and his charge shot mechanic opens a way to use energy in overworld combat without feeling like it's overkill. Just make sure to run someone like Fischl on top of building a dendro comp around him, with that setup he recharges so much energy with just one tap on his skill
sethos is suprising like he's stronger than i thought. like i tend to be worried with 4 star dpses or onfielders in general because we all know how 4 stars are in genshin these days. if even we have some characters like gaming who are very solid units. but we also had some duds as well like freminet and Kaveh.
He doesn’t even scale that big with attack meaning he really has no drawbacks compared to 5 stars base stat wise. Obv he doesn’t ascend with crit like 5 star dps-es but EM ascension stat helps him close the gap.
Have not built Sethos but can confirm that quickbloom team is a great electro carry flex team, i use it for Fischl but instead of the NAs being direct damage its about Ozs positioning as he can hit seeds well he just has to be inline, as such she can self drive her A4 pretty well as long as she is C6. I know a few buddies who use it for Keqing just because they like it too. Its cool team because if you build 250 to 350 EM then Nahida+Baizhu on instructors can get you up to 650-750 EM which is apparently the point of diminishing returns for Hyperbloom if you still want to build Crit damage, a rare thing to seek but its very nice. Meanwhile the aggravated aggravate very intensely too! May consider building him now he looks like a fun character
Honestly, he seems to be the most synergistic with Yae as he has short field times (with CA) and works around her clunky burst rotation, generates electro particles and brings in electro resonance to help Yae's burst cost AND allows you to double down on the benefits of anemo (specifically sucrose) as both him and yae are electro. The anemo res shred was wasted on Tighnari. The only other unit to use is Kirara for the shield and small dendro application so you won't have trouble swirling elkectro liek you would with Nahida. I'm actually hype about Sethos. Furthermore, his ele skill is 8 seconds and allows more energy generation and enables you to quick swap around him twice before committing to CAs. Yae really likes and prefers this over Tighnari's more forced 12 second CA rotation.
What clunkiness are you referring to? Yae and Tighnari are perfect for one another because they both work with 15 sec rotations. Her turrets line up perfectly with that. Most Yae's burst every other rotation or even forgo it depending on the chamber. Please tell me you're not trying to turret and immediately burst into more turrets.
I think Sethos is good 4* on-fielder. Considering thet I used him at L1 in my Fischl, Kirara, Kazuha team and I was able to one rotate (aggravtae 24 second rotation) the Geo Wishap. I think the problem really is thet I destryoed it by Clorinde much faster. It is more about the competation, but frankly judgeing 4* on-fielders only for being redundant is really un-fair. Yanfei my favorite pyro dps and she is one of the most redundant character ever, still strong enough to easily clear the Abyss and she have a fun playstyle. This game allow you to use most characters and have a good experience with them, it is very rare when a character really feels bad to use, like Hydro Traveler. On top of thet I think Sethos is just generally in the higher end of the 4* damage dealers, being EM scaler electro who can cheet out damage from hyperbloom and being good Fischl driver already make him pretty good.
1 thing i want to see is the damage diference of the furina team in a normal abyss , i knew furina is pretty powerful but the current abyss blessing give you 48% more damage for only use furina.
I picker up Clorinde in 21 pulls (78 pity) on a guarantee but Sethos failed to show, so I risked another 10 pull later in the day & there he was. Job done, banner complete. Shame ol' Seth will join Kaveh in the eternal 20/40 club, I'd rather finish building Dori than those 2 😅
bruh. 140 pulls for alheithem no alheithem got c6 sethos.... mediocre dps with one of the worst constellations in the game.......... benett and thoma aren't c6,the two characters I already had and built and wanted to
Had my wife do my pulls on Clorinde since I wanted some higher cons for Bennett and Thoma and wanted to get Sethos just to have him. She does my first 20 pulls after I pulled Arlecchino, she gets 2 Clorinde, 2 Thoma, and 3 Bennett. No Sethos. Just wanted to have him in my team even if he stays c0
In my experience on playing (Cyno+Nahida+Furina+Baizhu), comps like this one scale best with EM Goblet then with Elemental ones, since Furina's buff acts the same way element buffs act in a character build, so you can get more buffs from the weapon and Hyperbloom as well this way.
Its like a magnet lol, I always like the characters everyone is burning alive lol. I love the flexibility of either using yoimiya or tighnari depending on the situation. Specially with the piercing attacks. Position yourself well and dude can melt down mobs well. Good for venti too. Overall, a plesant surprise for me
i think people focus way too much on getting 1 team to do 1 thing, i have been using him as a sub on field dps and having a really good time with it. does he do as much damage in a set up where you focus on buffing him as much as possible? no! is it fun? yes!
How about a full hyperbloom build with the new event bow and EM/EM/EM artifacts? I recently built C6 Dori like that to devastating effect. Hyperbloom is just sooo OP.....
They should really stop with 4* DPS for a while. The only 4* support we had got are Lynnette and Chevreuse. All the rest of were DPS. But maybe they did it to have more affordable options for the incoming Imaginarium Theater. And that every other 4* support gets dominated by the power 5. Edit: I forgot about Charlotte. Maybe because Cryo has skipped my mind for almost two years now.
He's good as a hyperlooom team who's weak link is the hydro character I feel like. Like while the best hydro character is on the other abyss team or you just don't have kokomi you can do a quick aggrevate while your hydro applicator is on cd or something (like a burgeon team who goes vaporize when the dendro character is on CD. I think him being versitile will make him a lot better in stuff like the theater whenever that comes out (he can sub in for several characters i mean)
I like your videos, and I was following you most of the time, but when you began talking comparison to other electro DPS, other than Lisa your comparisons were to 5 star characters so of course his damage won't keep up with them. You basically said "he's good but not as good as a 5 star" which is why hes a 4 star, but you made it sound like a bad thing instead of expected for a 4*. It's your opinion, so I'm not mad, you can have your own opinion. And I believe that you like to have the audience opinion and I think you were accurate but a little harsh, which is understandable for someone who has played every character.
“we do need an electro shie-“ beidou?? exists?? at c2 she shields. I mean idk how well the uptime is even with good energy but c2 beidou is pretty easy to get, esp since she’s in the starglitter store lmao and she IS an electro shielder so
im currently building him with amos and using him with yae nahida baizhu. it’s just fun having 2 characters with evasive abilities and they ensure i get the max buff on amos😊
I think he's getting messed up with the low atk scaling and Chev buffs atk. But I feel like this would just mean Gilded is his best set overall, or Wanderer with atk sands, and in overload Crimson can be flexed into as well.
I've been focusing less on his personal dps and running him as a ranged hyperbloom driver putting him on 4p instructors and fav bow with Nahida/Xingqiu/Raiden. I have Nahida on prototype amber and Xingqiu there to provide int res and some healing with his damage but I also feel like people forget Raiden can trigger hyperblooms even from a distance so with this team I can just play Sethos from a safe distance. His personal numbers aren't amazing or anything but it's still a pretty solid team though I'm only at C3 and I feel like his C4 would boost his driving capabilities. Also, an absolutely cursed build is phys C3 Sethos on thundering pulse (which looks pretty good on him) is actually kinda fun to play
Sethos really got the short end of the stick on my account. I have all Electro units, minus Keqing, and I have all of them build, aside from Dori. If the stars align correctly, maybe I'll give him a chance, the fact that he doesn't use aim-shot exclusively is a big W for me.
Make sure you are fine with cancel combos, his best DPS output is using his burst infused normal attacks in a X2 normal attacks into walk cancel, rinse and repeat. Regardless he's quite mediocre.
desert pavilion being good on sethos? I never thought of that, but now I’m curious. my wanderers set isn’t great (well, unless it’s a pyro chr. I have a cracked pyro goblet but all my criclets suck lmao) but I have a really good pavilion set for scara, so I might try it out lmao.
Have you considered a team comp with Electro Traveler, Sethos, Nahida and Beidou? (EMC allows sethos to gain energy while EMC is off field.) It allows Sethos to spam Charge level 1 shots 10 to 11 times. n1tr0n0m showcased it in his channel. I think its pretty well performing, though it needs weakspots to work (Charge level 2 cannot get weakspots. Level 1 can.).
The thing is every electro is great with furina, nahida, baizhu/yaoyao. However not all of them work in pure aggrevate (mainly raiden i guess), quickbloom is just better in general look at cyno.
Maybe sethos could be used with tighnari, the thing I find problematic while I'm using tighnari is that I have free time in the rotation, a second carry could fill this gap.
I like his hair and how his clothes look when we're running with him in the overworld. That's really important to me. Sadly, I don't have him built. But amazing thing about zhongli furina is that they allow me to run a crappy on fielder ans i don't die, plus the salon members kill everything and i just pretend its my unbuilt onfielder sethos/freminet/yanfei etc doing the damage. Lmao😂😂😂
My Sethos has stopped at C5...which is just frustrating. I've left him at level 60/70 for now, I'll get around to finish building him at some point, but my focus is Clorinde at the moment.
@@usmanya5110 kuki is 18+ so we can say she's subjectively good-looking And look, fischl is a minor. So well say raiden chose her for her future potential ok
Didn't finish watching the video yet, but i wanted to say that his a4 talent doesn't apply to his burst, so if you only use his normal attacks you're missing out on 700% EM dmg bonus on your charged attacks When i was testing him yesterday i came to a conclusion that his best artifact set is TF because you can do more E's, which equals more energy, which allows you to use his burst and after it ends i can do 2-3 charged attacks and still get enough energy for my burst next rotation
sethos normal attacks while under the effects of his burst count as charge attack for the sake of mke the A4 work, you're not losing his pasive, the pasive exist for that, is a type dmg conversion just like how raiden burst make her normals do burst dmg, sethos burst make his normals do charge attack dmg, dont difame the goat
@@WildspeakerYTif you look at the talent description the 700% em scaling only applies to shadow piercing shots which is only accessed by aiming down but his burst shoot dusk bolt shots and scale lower most likely becuz he attacks faster in that state
I'm confused how his Burst NA playstyle is better. All of his talents and constellations mention his "Shadowpiercer Shots" (his charged attack). None of them interact with his Burst NAs ("Dusk Bolts") besides C4. Did they really push his charged attacks so much only for normal attack to be the best?
Baizhu stands correct, his best DPS output is achieved with burst infused normal attack X2 walk cancel combos, you can use an occasional charged shot to finish up low HP enemies if you are outside of burst but basically even his C6 is pretty mediocre on the damage contribution department.
@@JelloImpact It IS definitively Not a dedicated shield nor a comfortable shield unlike Zhongli or baizhu. But Personally speaking along With Her parry and a decent offfield healer i can Facetank With Her. So i would Label Her as a quick Swap shielder.
I Still Don't Think Sethos Is That Big If A Deal... He Is Not In The Level Of GaMing. And Is Kinda Close To Heizou. But 4 Star DPSs Can't Go That Far Anyways... So He Is Not As Bad Either.
Guys Jello is such a simp for hoyo, he only says positive things about characters because they pay him. Even worse, he stole my credit card and made me swipe for C6 sethos. I'm homeless now, thanks Jello Impact
having skill issue with his CA as a mobile player so it's great that he can be played either CA or burst DPS if spamming his burst, does anyone know how big the dmg loss is if sac bow is used? kinda enjoy getting a heckton of energy immediately with 2 skills
I really appreciate your honesty! You’re always very helpful and not in a mean way. You keep it real, but it always feels lighthearted, fun, and like it’s coming from someone who really enjoys the game overall. I decided to pull on alhaitham’s banner right now because I need another dendro AND electro unit (I literally still only have Lisa for electro💀 love her tho! That’s my girl!). So this banner allowed me to get both. Hopefully I’ll be able to get better electro units in the future, but I’m just grateful to have anyone as a second option right now 🤣 this guide was awesome! Thank you! Fingers crossed I get his C2 while pulling for more alhaitham cons. Maybe one day I’ll get fischl, but at this rate idk 🫠 … definitely getting Yae and Raiden whenever they come back cause they are babes 🔥
Ι dont care if he is bad or not he a normal attack spammer and i love that playstyle. Also i have only Keqing as an electro dps and i dont like her i was just using her because she was my first five star on my account.
I have no idea why they think him as an aggrevate cary. Like... wtf? His electro, scales off of EM and does alot of aoe. What more do you want for an aggrevate cary xD
Apparently his level 1 charge shot spam is his best aggravate playstyle. That's so lame that I believe it xD make sure as I said to go check out dedicated sethos clears for people that are min maxing him!
Check out my Clorinde Ultimate Review here! ua-cam.com/video/Y2cVlS0hVoQ/v-deo.htmlsi=1xVExE3X2FxA4dkX
jello,have you tried building him for EM instead of attack and perfect crit? People recommend ~600 em for hyperbloom or even going for over 1000 sacrificing crit. Have you tested those?
It's actually far more impressive than you'd think. Electro Traveler is also one of his best supports. A Sethos, Beidou, EMC and Nahida team can take down Triple Kenki in under a minute with the level 1 charge shot playstyle.
were you able to test him with the new event bow? It seems like it was made for him to me
he’s a typical “this is a 4* dps” case. i think he’s on the higher end of 4* dps though (but that can also be attributed to furina and dendro). his biggest benefit is the changing playstyles. he’s definitely a step in the right direction as far as fun and variety goes
I wonder if it's fair to say he's currently the best 4star DPS to lead a hyperbloom team. Actually in terms of mid-comparisons, I think Tighnari and Keqing are probably the ones close by in strength and relative rarity being 5 stars on standard. (Most limited 5star units are a tier above of course.)
Tighnari and Keqing hyperbloom with furina are definitely far stronger than sethos' one lol@@Archflip
Sadly don't think they'd make someone better than Gaming
As a 4 star DPSser he sucks Gaming's balls, especially if both get constellations, compare a C6 Sethos to a C6 Gaming.
One thing I found about Sethos is that, while his burst na spam playstyle is generally best, if you're missing only a bit of health on the last few enemies to finish the fight you can just do a couple of quick charged attacks.
His charged attack playstyle has very good dps while it lasts, it's just that it doesn't last long enough and has a way too long cooldown. If, for whatever reason, you find yourself with Sethos in a situation where you need a bunch of front loaded damage you can ignore his burst and just go to town with his charged attacks.
I've tested it against the ruin snake and the notoriously short dps windows it allows you, and I found that in those situations his charged attacks are way more effective than burst and na.
And, with both playstyles, he's actually an above average Fischl driver in aggravate teams. I think he may genuinely be better than Keqing, if properly used. Better than Yae? His personal damage is, of course, lower than Yae, but he triggers aggravate more often, which means that, with a well built Fischl, he may actually be competitive with her, though I need to test this further. I believe with a C6 Fischl he might even get a big power boost, though I can't test it because I don't have Fischl C6 sadly (I'm a 1.0 player and my Fischl is still C2 to this day, sadge).
My point is that, if used smartly, his kit may actually put him on a power level that is somewhere around some 5* characters, though nowhere near the stronger 5* of course. In that, I think he's quite similar to Gaming and Noelle, both fellow 4* characters who, in the right situations, can actually compete with some of the 5* carries (assuming those 5* carries are C0, of course). Also, that his kit makes him adaptable in a way that most other characters aren't: the only other carry who has a degree of control over the length of his rotations is Alhaitham, and that rotation flexibility is part of what makes him so good.
We can confidently say that Sethos is one of the DPS of all time.
Amazing. Amazing getting him c6 from 140 pulls for alheithem. Still no alheithem. No c4 thoma,no c5 benett. But c6 sethos. Im close to deleting genshin for good.
Hay, if you ever felt like on Fielding fischl for some reason but realised that doesn't add any value
Now, if you just close your eyes, it'll feel like you're on Fielding fischl while also driving fischl from off field. What a lovely and universally felt experience
@@user-jc1kq1qb5jmight be time to hop on WUWA. Got yinlin on my first 10 pull on her banner. I was 50 or 60 pity in though, but still, won the 50/50
@@user-jc1kq1qb5jI did 130 pulls for Bennett and got 6 Sethos and 0 Bennetts😭
@@user-jc1kq1qb5j So you'll get Alhaitham within 40 more wishes guaranteed, good luck
he might not be a great 4 star, but hes certainly fun and interesting with two different playstyles, seems like sometimes 4 star kits are more interesting than some 5 stars lol
He is in the category of "4 star on-field DPS", like Yanfei, Heizou and Gaming.
He won't make it to a meta team where people care about beating the most challenging content in the most efficient way.
More like for people who want an extra challenge or new players who still need an on-field dps, personally I like the 4 star teams more for world exploration, makes the game more engaging for me since it requires a decent rotation to get the enemies down. Meanwhile in the open world, a single 5 star character usually beats the enemies in 1 skill o 1 burst barely using the in-game mechanics.
@lyricjam39 the fact that people are still sleeping on Ga Ming is crazy to me because he does more damage than a lot of 5 star dps
Ga Ming speedruns the abyss with the same Arlecchino and Hu Tao times LMAO@@lyricjam39
@@GIJoeMeerkat He is the only exception for 4 star on-field DPS, specially paired with Xianyun he is unstopable. It's a great option if you need a pyro dps and don't have Arlecchino or Hu Tao. Devs definetely wanted to make Liyue (aka China) characters relevant again in recent patches.
@lyricjam39 tbf he also had a really long development time with the devs having to add new things they have never done before so he would at least have to be good. And the reason we don't get many on field 4 star dps that are strong is because support 4 stars sell way more, and people rather have niche 4 star buffers than niche 5 star buffers
I love Sethos as a character. I like that there's flexibility in his kit.
Always appreciate your honest reviews!
EM is his most important stat. Better to max that out than attack. Even in the trial he has 650 EM.
good thing the event is giving us an EM boosting 4 star bow as a budget option
@@haydenz0 Considering his best weapen is Slingshot, even outperforming all, but one 5* I don't think he need a "budget" option, he is already increadible cheap to build if you play the game for some time. Wanderer+Slingshot.
That’s what it appears on the surface. Attack is still good actually in his secret “third playstyle” that only few know about…
Just in case you are curious, it’s called spamming level 1 charged shots. It consumes much less energy than shadow piercing shot and has no icd and can proc aggravate non stop sadly it only directly scale with attack but still it’s pretty insane.
@@FacialFischl Thats actually great to know because I got him just to try out his playstyles and that one seems kinda intresting.
„We really need an electro shielder“
Beidou: Am I a joke to you?
Jk but yea you’re kinda right. It would be nice to get a broader palette of electro charas that aren’t DPS. But that counts for almost every element *looks at Pyro and Hydro*
I can't help but feel like he's one of those "stepping stone" units for newer accounts that are limited by their character options. If a new account manages to pull a Fischl and a Sethos, all they really need is Dendro MC to have the core of a solid team in the works. Hell, you can even get by with using Barbara in the last slot for the rare Hyperbloom reaction from time to time.
I just think that it's a tragedy that he's on THIS particular banner because Clorinde does Aggravate better and Alhaitham does Hyperbloom better so there's going to be a lot of people pulling for either of those units that will pick up Sethos who does a less than ideal job at either team archetype than those two 5 star units.
If he had come out sooner during Fontaine or late through Sumeru, I'm sure he'd have more fans than he has now.
You are not wrong about that. As someone who pulled Clorinde from this banner I am going to put her in Aggravate, leaving no place on that team for Sethos.
I am thinking of building an electrocharged team with Sethos instead, let's see how it pans out
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What I like most about the charge shot is that it's visually obvious when it's ready. Diona, even Ganyu, it's so hard to tell sometimes between their burst and especially all the commotion during co-op.
The recent 4 stars have honestly had really fun and interesting kits but it just blows that it gets forgotten bc they have 4 star numbers
I'm all in for those unique playstyle characters. I'm a freminet main ffs lol.
Thanks for the guide and honesty!
I have a very honest question about your thoughts on him. Are you taking into account we're getting the new gamemode in less than a month that will focus on widening the character pool for various needs? Like, encouraging the player that it's okay to have multiple electro dps?
Because to me, aside from regular 4* dps damage balancing, the only true issue with him is "he's not needed when we have others". But what if we need all of them? Even with using a character across 2 stages, we might need hodgepodge teams with multiple dps units because the supports have to be spread across more carefully.
Even without that, he's perfect for a lot of early game players and exploration focus. So I'm gonna use him while catching up on some forgotten side quests.
Your videos really might bring good luck fr got Sethos c6 and won the 50/50 for Alhaitham
I cleared Abyss 12 with him via Quickbloom, he's performing better than what this comment section is making me believe
What I saw he is good in aggravate as well. In reality as a on-field electro the only thing you need to do to clear abyss is to be a good Fischl driver and he absoltuly is. It is interesting thet you used quickbloom team, his attacks have AoE then?
@reactiondavant-garde3391 his aoe isn't that great if youre using his burst enhanced na's, but if you are using his enhanced charged attacks, it's a lot easier to hit the bloom cores
Wow! No suit for Sethos?? For shame, Jello!
Beidou is crying, lost and forgotten to time with her electro shield
I was literally debating building her as a battery for him. I have Raiden but I use her as my Electro/battery for my Arlecchino overload team, sooo
@@novalynn3562 when in doubt, giving the team fav always works
Only through constellations. Same with Hydro-mode Traveler. That means that talent scaling cannot be applied to improve the shielding.
We don’t have a C0 shielder for Anemo, Electro, and Hydro.
there is a very interesting 3rd play-style of sethos that uses electro mc + kirara to aggravate with charge lvl 1 shots. the charge lvl 1 shots have no icd but dont pierce. they consume half as much energy and also get reduced charge time it is very fun and i think may be his best single-target playstyle
He cleared triple kenki with more than 9minutes at level60 with lvl1 talents with the premium hyperbloom team.
Ooh your take on Sethos is interesting
I've had a lot of fun playing him these past couple days. I actually think he's pretty good in the overworld, and his charge shot mechanic opens a way to use energy in overworld combat without feeling like it's overkill. Just make sure to run someone like Fischl on top of building a dendro comp around him, with that setup he recharges so much energy with just one tap on his skill
sethos is suprising like he's stronger than i thought. like i tend to be worried with 4 star dpses or onfielders in general because we all know how 4 stars are in genshin these days. if even we have some characters like gaming who are very solid units. but we also had some duds as well like freminet and Kaveh.
He doesn’t even scale that big with attack meaning he really has no drawbacks compared to 5 stars base stat wise. Obv he doesn’t ascend with crit like 5 star dps-es but EM ascension stat helps him close the gap.
Have not built Sethos but can confirm that quickbloom team is a great electro carry flex team, i use it for Fischl but instead of the NAs being direct damage its about Ozs positioning as he can hit seeds well he just has to be inline, as such she can self drive her A4 pretty well as long as she is C6. I know a few buddies who use it for Keqing just because they like it too. Its cool team because if you build 250 to 350 EM then Nahida+Baizhu on instructors can get you up to 650-750 EM which is apparently the point of diminishing returns for Hyperbloom if you still want to build Crit damage, a rare thing to seek but its very nice. Meanwhile the aggravated aggravate very intensely too!
May consider building him now he looks like a fun character
I love his design so much that I’m going to run him in every team even if it’s anti synergistic lol (the same thing happened to me with Furina)
Honestly, he seems to be the most synergistic with Yae as he has short field times (with CA) and works around her clunky burst rotation, generates electro particles and brings in electro resonance to help Yae's burst cost AND allows you to double down on the benefits of anemo (specifically sucrose) as both him and yae are electro. The anemo res shred was wasted on Tighnari. The only other unit to use is Kirara for the shield and small dendro application so you won't have trouble swirling elkectro liek you would with Nahida. I'm actually hype about Sethos.
Furthermore, his ele skill is 8 seconds and allows more energy generation and enables you to quick swap around him twice before committing to CAs. Yae really likes and prefers this over Tighnari's more forced 12 second CA rotation.
What clunkiness are you referring to? Yae and Tighnari are perfect for one another because they both work with 15 sec rotations. Her turrets line up perfectly with that. Most Yae's burst every other rotation or even forgo it depending on the chamber.
Please tell me you're not trying to turret and immediately burst into more turrets.
I think Sethos is good 4* on-fielder. Considering thet I used him at L1 in my Fischl, Kirara, Kazuha team and I was able to one rotate (aggravtae 24 second rotation) the Geo Wishap. I think the problem really is thet I destryoed it by Clorinde much faster. It is more about the competation, but frankly judgeing 4* on-fielders only for being redundant is really un-fair. Yanfei my favorite pyro dps and she is one of the most redundant character ever, still strong enough to easily clear the Abyss and she have a fun playstyle. This game allow you to use most characters and have a good experience with them, it is very rare when a character really feels bad to use, like Hydro Traveler. On top of thet I think Sethos is just generally in the higher end of the 4* damage dealers, being EM scaler electro who can cheet out damage from hyperbloom and being good Fischl driver already make him pretty good.
1 thing i want to see is the damage diference of the furina team in a normal abyss , i knew furina is pretty powerful but the current abyss blessing give you 48% more damage for only use furina.
I picker up Clorinde in 21 pulls (78 pity) on a guarantee but Sethos failed to show, so I risked another 10 pull later in the day & there he was. Job done, banner complete. Shame ol' Seth will join Kaveh in the eternal 20/40 club, I'd rather finish building Dori than those 2 😅
bruh.
140 pulls for alheithem
no alheithem
got c6 sethos....
mediocre dps with one of the worst constellations in the game..........
benett and thoma aren't c6,the two characters I already had and built and wanted to
Had my wife do my pulls on Clorinde since I wanted some higher cons for Bennett and Thoma and wanted to get Sethos just to have him. She does my first 20 pulls after I pulled Arlecchino, she gets 2 Clorinde, 2 Thoma, and 3 Bennett. No Sethos. Just wanted to have him in my team even if he stays c0
Just lost a 50/50, but I did get c4 Bennett and C2 Sethos out of it.
I tried him with Kirara and she feels better than Baizhu when doing charged shots, good luck to anyone pulling him and his cons!
i love sethos! thanks for the guide!
Sethos is truly a character.
In my experience on playing (Cyno+Nahida+Furina+Baizhu), comps like this one scale best with EM Goblet then with Elemental ones, since Furina's buff acts the same way element buffs act in a character build, so you can get more buffs from the weapon and Hyperbloom as well this way.
Its like a magnet lol, I always like the characters everyone is burning alive lol.
I love the flexibility of either using yoimiya or tighnari depending on the situation. Specially with the piercing attacks. Position yourself well and dude can melt down mobs well. Good for venti too. Overall, a plesant surprise for me
i think people focus way too much on getting 1 team to do 1 thing, i have been using him as a sub on field dps and having a really good time with it. does he do as much damage in a set up where you focus on buffing him as much as possible? no! is it fun? yes!
If anyones wondering, i have +0% bonus er (lol) and i burst every rot using the nahida baizhu furina team
How about a full hyperbloom build with the new event bow and EM/EM/EM artifacts? I recently built C6 Dori like that to devastating effect. Hyperbloom is just sooo OP.....
overworld, play him mono electro. beidou c1 gives shield i think
They should really stop with 4* DPS for a while. The only 4* support we had got are Lynnette and Chevreuse. All the rest of were DPS.
But maybe they did it to have more affordable options for the incoming Imaginarium Theater. And that every other 4* support gets dominated by the power 5.
Edit: I forgot about Charlotte. Maybe because Cryo has skipped my mind for almost two years now.
Charlotte being chopped liver.
He's good as a hyperlooom team who's weak link is the hydro character I feel like. Like while the best hydro character is on the other abyss team or you just don't have kokomi you can do a quick aggrevate while your hydro applicator is on cd or something (like a burgeon team who goes vaporize when the dendro character is on CD. I think him being versitile will make him a lot better in stuff like the theater whenever that comes out (he can sub in for several characters i mean)
I'm also predicting that Natlan will have more characters who use their energy as a resource but idk if im wrong then L ig
I say this as like "maybe there will be a character who can help with that kind of thing or a marechuse hunter type artifact set thing for it"
I like your videos, and I was following you most of the time, but when you began talking comparison to other electro DPS, other than Lisa your comparisons were to 5 star characters so of course his damage won't keep up with them. You basically said "he's good but not as good as a 5 star" which is why hes a 4 star, but you made it sound like a bad thing instead of expected for a 4*.
It's your opinion, so I'm not mad, you can have your own opinion. And I believe that you like to have the audience opinion and I think you were accurate but a little harsh, which is understandable for someone who has played every character.
“we do need an electro shie-“
beidou?? exists?? at c2 she shields. I mean idk how well the uptime is even with good energy but c2 beidou is pretty easy to get, esp since she’s in the starglitter store lmao
and she IS an electro shielder so
Jello, could you do a tierlist on 4* DPS? It would help newer players and I want to see your controversial takes 🥰
honestly i wish i had him when i first started. more 4* dps are really nice for people who are just starting out
How doe sthe new event bow Cloudforged hold up against the rest of the weopn options? especially slingshot.
im currently building him with amos and using him with yae nahida baizhu. it’s just fun having 2 characters with evasive abilities and they ensure i get the max buff on amos😊
He looks so fun! Sadly I only got him at c0 and my Gaming is stuck at c5 😭 The new 4 stars have been evading me 😢
Wouldn't be be better to use a constant Pyro applicator for Sethos in Chevreuse teams, since Overload damage scales on em?
I think he's getting messed up with the low atk scaling and Chev buffs atk.
But I feel like this would just mean Gilded is his best set overall, or Wanderer with atk sands, and in overload Crimson can be flexed into as well.
I've been focusing less on his personal dps and running him as a ranged hyperbloom driver putting him on 4p instructors and fav bow with Nahida/Xingqiu/Raiden. I have Nahida on prototype amber and Xingqiu there to provide int res and some healing with his damage but I also feel like people forget Raiden can trigger hyperblooms even from a distance so with this team I can just play Sethos from a safe distance. His personal numbers aren't amazing or anything but it's still a pretty solid team though I'm only at C3 and I feel like his C4 would boost his driving capabilities.
Also, an absolutely cursed build is phys C3 Sethos on thundering pulse (which looks pretty good on him) is actually kinda fun to play
Figures they'd put out an event weapon tailor-made for him *after* you get this out, lol. So does Cloudforged change your opinion at all?
Sethos really got the short end of the stick on my account. I have all Electro units, minus Keqing, and I have all of them build, aside from Dori. If the stars align correctly, maybe I'll give him a chance, the fact that he doesn't use aim-shot exclusively is a big W for me.
Make sure you are fine with cancel combos, his best DPS output is using his burst infused normal attacks in a X2 normal attacks into walk cancel, rinse and repeat. Regardless he's quite mediocre.
if they're dendro electro or hydro new characters... guaranteed hyperbloom. no questions asked
desert pavilion being good on sethos? I never thought of that, but now I’m curious. my wanderers set isn’t great (well, unless it’s a pyro chr. I have a cracked pyro goblet but all my criclets suck lmao) but I have a really good pavilion set for scara, so I might try it out lmao.
Have you considered a team comp with Electro Traveler, Sethos, Nahida and Beidou? (EMC allows sethos to gain energy while EMC is off field.)
It allows Sethos to spam Charge level 1 shots 10 to 11 times. n1tr0n0m showcased it in his channel. I think its pretty well performing, though it needs weakspots to work (Charge level 2 cannot get weakspots. Level 1 can.).
Love your content Jello. How do you always lvl 90 your characters on day 1? Do you just grind like crazy or are there CC perks?
cc perks. there’s a specific server for content creators that lets you test all the characters
The new EM bow event weapon looks good for Sethos.
Goro gattling gun strat
The thing is every electro is great with furina, nahida, baizhu/yaoyao.
However not all of them work in pure aggrevate (mainly raiden i guess), quickbloom is just better in general look at cyno.
Sethos is like the most unique dps out there, sadly the curse of being a 4 star hes basically "use if you like" kind of character
Missed opportunity by the devs to make him a 4 star Yoimiya or Childe
Maybe sethos could be used with tighnari, the thing I find problematic while I'm using tighnari is that I have free time in the rotation, a second carry could fill this gap.
THE TITLE XD
I like his hair and how his clothes look when we're running with him in the overworld. That's really important to me. Sadly, I don't have him built. But amazing thing about zhongli furina is that they allow me to run a crappy on fielder ans i don't die, plus the salon members kill everything and i just pretend its my unbuilt onfielder sethos/freminet/yanfei etc doing the damage. Lmao😂😂😂
Anyone else notice they casually gave Cyno (King of TCG Games) his own Twink Kaiba?
What about the new cloud forged bow? Is it better than slingshot?
My Sethos has stopped at C5...which is just frustrating.
I've left him at level 60/70 for now, I'll get around to finish building him at some point, but my focus is Clorinde at the moment.
They really did make electro hot women, three wolf boys and Dori huh?
but but dori is a hot woman too... XD
@@user-pf1kk7zc2n Policmen, this one.
where do fischl and kuki stand?
@@usmanya5110 kuki is 18+ so we can say she's subjectively good-looking
And look, fischl is a minor. So well say raiden chose her for her future potential ok
@@user-pf1kk7zc2n TRUEE
Did you try him with his promo weapon, the 2nd BP bow?
I wanna try him with Dori to buff er and tighnari because I have tighnari unused idk
And remember if you don't have kiraram just wait until 4.8 and get her for free :D
Did you try, or even provided the new event bow?
Would you advise using Ibis Piercer for a Hyperbloom team?
C6 Sethos vs C0 Clorinde in Aggravate/Hyperbloom/quickbloom ?
Do n2 walk
So he's got like a built-in Shimenawa, interesting…
He’s really fun in open world not really abyss
Didn't finish watching the video yet, but i wanted to say that his a4 talent doesn't apply to his burst, so if you only use his normal attacks you're missing out on 700% EM dmg bonus on your charged attacks
When i was testing him yesterday i came to a conclusion that his best artifact set is TF because you can do more E's, which equals more energy, which allows you to use his burst and after it ends i can do 2-3 charged attacks and still get enough energy for my burst next rotation
yeah he's pretty good. but that's not something anyone will say it's either broken or trash xD
@@JelloImpactthe issue isn’t that he isn’t good the issue is we barely got any 4 star off fielders
sethos normal attacks while under the effects of his burst count as charge attack for the sake of mke the A4 work, you're not losing his pasive, the pasive exist for that, is a type dmg conversion just like how raiden burst make her normals do burst dmg, sethos burst make his normals do charge attack dmg, dont difame the goat
@@WildspeakerYTif you look at the talent description the 700% em scaling only applies to shadow piercing shots which is only accessed by aiming down but his burst shoot dusk bolt shots and scale lower most likely becuz he attacks faster in that state
I'm confused how his Burst NA playstyle is better. All of his talents and constellations mention his "Shadowpiercer Shots" (his charged attack). None of them interact with his Burst NAs ("Dusk Bolts") besides C4. Did they really push his charged attacks so much only for normal attack to be the best?
his NAs are significantly better. it is genuinely unfortunate because of the con situation. even at c6, NA playstyle is better
Baizhu stands correct, his best DPS output is achieved with burst infused normal attack X2 walk cancel combos, you can use an occasional charged shot to finish up low HP enemies if you are outside of burst but basically even his C6 is pretty mediocre on the damage contribution department.
Where are you getting slingshot being next best after HP. Every calc I've seen has both TFGM and Amos significantly ahead, hell even 4 star Scion.
Zajef mused that those are his only 2 viable options.
Genshin scientist, Zajeff, and Jstern
you need watch better TCs tbh
DPC BiS artifact set? I'd like too see some math on that cause I think you are being delulu again.
You said we need an electro shielder but isn't Beidou's burst an electro shield?
It’s nice but not a full shield for these purposes
@@JelloImpact It IS definitively Not a dedicated shield nor a comfortable shield unlike Zhongli or baizhu. But Personally speaking along With Her parry and a decent offfield healer i can Facetank With Her. So i would Label Her as a quick Swap shielder.
At C1
I enjoy playing him more than Arlecchino TBH
Is sac bow any good?
I Still Don't Think Sethos Is That Big If A Deal...
He Is Not In The Level Of GaMing. And Is Kinda Close To Heizou.
But 4 Star DPSs Can't Go That Far Anyways... So He Is Not As Bad Either.
I use him w lyneys weapon
Guys Jello is such a simp for hoyo, he only says positive things about characters because they pay him. Even worse, he stole my credit card and made me swipe for C6 sethos. I'm homeless now, thanks Jello Impact
having skill issue with his CA as a mobile player so it's great that he can be played either CA or burst DPS
if spamming his burst, does anyone know how big the dmg loss is if sac bow is used? kinda enjoy getting a heckton of energy immediately with 2 skills
For imaginarium he might be useful for a f2p since he is a pretty low investment unit
1. Yout forgot Beidou. She's an electro shielder (kinda)
2. You didn't mention if hes good with Chevruse.
She’s mot a shielder for these purposes
I did mention- he’s not good haha
@@JelloImpact I see what you saying now. How about Dori? She provides extra energy
For he ,ig he feel better than cloro💀
Keqing guide when?
I have one!
I really appreciate your honesty! You’re always very helpful and not in a mean way. You keep it real, but it always feels lighthearted, fun, and like it’s coming from someone who really enjoys the game overall. I decided to pull on alhaitham’s banner right now because I need another dendro AND electro unit (I literally still only have Lisa for electro💀 love her tho! That’s my girl!). So this banner allowed me to get both. Hopefully I’ll be able to get better electro units in the future, but I’m just grateful to have anyone as a second option right now 🤣 this guide was awesome! Thank you! Fingers crossed I get his C2 while pulling for more alhaitham cons. Maybe one day I’ll get fischl, but at this rate idk 🫠 … definitely getting Yae and Raiden whenever they come back cause they are babes 🔥
I wish he hadn't released at the same time as Clorinde T_T
Most Cyno fans would probably pull for Sethos to complete the family 😂
i sure did lol
Ι dont care if he is bad or not he a normal attack spammer and i love that playstyle. Also i have only Keqing as an electro dps and i dont like her i was just using her because she was my first five star on my account.
Electro yoimiya!
Yoimiya can't pierce enemies tho
I have no idea why they think him as an aggrevate cary. Like... wtf?
His electro, scales off of EM and does alot of aoe. What more do you want for an aggrevate cary xD
*me waiting for Cyno*
Hoyo: We have Cyno at home
*Cyno at home 👆🏻😢*
I got Clorinde while watching your streaming warning me not to gamble 😂. Thanks for the indirect luck, building sethos too
Confirmed sethos is infact a genshin character, and he offers genshin character things
Guess i'll build up sethos cause i got a mona on the clorinde banner 😢🤡🤡☠️
4* should have been sub dps or support tbf