✅ Peplink Pepwave Max BR1 Pro 5G Cellular Router With Verizon Home Internet & T-Mobile Internet SIM
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- I'm no longer stuck with Verizon and T-Mobile's gateways! I got both SIM's to work including 5G SA on a Peplink Pepwave BR1 5G Pro. I cover MANY things in this video; features and benefits of the Peplink router, settings to get the SIM to work, business internet options, speed tests vs home internet gateways, band locking, and more! Note optimal MTU setting for T-Mobile is 1420 and for Verizon its 1428. This is just the start of the journey so stay tuned for more learnings...keep an eye out for future videos. Verizon 5G Home Internet, T-Mobile 5G Home Internet, T-Mobile 5G Business Internet. Make sure to update the firmware to the latest to ensure n77/C-band functioning (forum.peplink.com/t/peplink's... and forum.peplink.com/t/cellular-...)
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Bro, you’re the best I search for these type of videos all the time but I couldn’t find anything. Thank you so much.
You're welcome!
Out of my price range for sure. Can't wait for the next video with another option.
As usual, you never fail to inform. Thank you so much, Tater ~Tator tot
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Great content Nate.
thanks!
Mofi 5500 5g Is my cellular router of choice. I have one running at my camper for my ring cameras and one at home and one in the car.
That’s the 5G gateway I use with T-Mobile Biz and it’s been a solid performer
Did you t-mobile Biz come with a device and you just swapped or did you specifically request BYOD? I opened up a new business account today and got a device but my sim won’t swap to this device.
@@rcw119 I specifically told t-mo I wanted to bring my own device. T-mo needs the IMEI number of the device for it to connect.
Thanks for sharing.
Also wanted to add these cubes seem to have a really good C band antenna the ASK anyways... My house... on my phone I have to drive 2 miles to get UW but if I put this cube in a open window bam 300/16 close the window and I'm back on nationwide 80/12 ish
Good thing you have that Verizon active during your T-Mobile demonstration, if not there be some concerned kids in your office, giving you the what for!!
Exactly! Never let internet stop at home.
Awesome!
Exciting news…. But holy that’s expensive gear 😵💫
A thousand bucks worth.
Hi Nate, I love your videos. I decided to go with the Peplink Pepwave Max BR1 Pro 5G for a road trip that I am planning. Do you know how carriers treat 5G routers? Are they subject to the Cellular data limits, or are they treated as hotspot usage?
You want a "bring your own device" BYOD plan. Most will have data limits and may treat it as hotspot. Hotspot is typically determined by the TTL which can be set in the 5g router (highly recommend you look into that). Sometimes they are marketed as a tablet plan. Visible plan with a TTL of 84 might work well.
Are you planning on using your out side waveform attachments? To see what speeds you get/ if you can get better Ping and latency? I was hoping to see that as I us T-Mobile home internet and want to try and get better speeds as well as ping.
Yes, that is next on my list with these!
You said the sim card used in the BR1 for the VZW service came out of the VZW Home Internet Gateway. I'd like to see how you managed that bit of skullduggery... Maybe that's why you didn't show it, but I'm curious to know how you made it work. How does VZW register devices on their network such that you can mimic the VZW gateway and obtain service with a 3rd party device? Is it only the SIM card? Do you see any difference in speed using the VZW home internet gateway versus the BR1? I expect the speeds are limited on VZW's end. I recently signed up for the VZW service and learned a lot in doing so. Other YT vids confused me as they showed two different modems received with either the "Home" or "Home Plus" internet plans and speeds up to 350 for Home and 350-1GB for home plus. The thing the guy doing the vid forgot to mention is that 5G Ultra Wide is not offered in all the same cities as 5G C-band (mid band). Only those folks in cities with UW coverage can get access to the 350-1GB speeds. You can still sign up for the Home Plus plan in a C-band area like mine, but they send you the standard gateway and the extras you get are cloud based back-up and some kind of gift card, but no 350-1GB speeds. Where I am the speeds are consistently 300 - 350 and it's been reliable. I was skeptical that they could maintain this type of speed, but I suppose it all depends on your area. A few years from now when the service is more mature & loaded it may be a different story. For now, it is a nice option to have.
See ua-cam.com/video/SWBR1Nt8kmU/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/z1jVLvDSmgk/v-deo.html You are correct Verizon gives you the gateway based on your coverage (4G/5G C-band get the cube, mmWave gets the window mount unit or new outdoor unit). 5G Home and 5G Home Plus do NOT offer different speeds, they offer price lock, streaming, sign up bonus, etc differences.
Fantastic! Thanks
Glad you liked it!
you should be able to use DNS health check that's what I use that should work fine if you want health use DNS check give it your DNS and public ones too
damn. It has 5g sa and nsa. Thats pretty much what I currently need. I need SA. Sucks I cant get a business tmobile account..
Have you tried? They would let me sign up with SSN. Do you sell things on FB?
Hello Nate thanks for the video. I have the T-mobile home with external Waveform antena (4x4) and I get 650MB/30MB on Wifi. But when I connect to the Ethernet cabe (with disable DHCP on LAN) the speed drops to 80MB/25MB. I have watched your video explaining what to do to improve the speed, but unfortunately no success. My question is, if we use the T-Mobile business with the Peplink, will I be able to connect with Ethernet to my ASUS mesh system and keep the same speeds? I appreciate your input. I also live in a rural area and your videos were so good to help me improve our Internet service. Thanks
Yes. But I am surprised to hear your issue, I go from the tmobile gateway to my Asus WAN port (and do have Asus DHCP enabled). Have you tried that?
@@NaterTater Thank you very much for your reply. Sorry for the late reply. The T-Mobile tower that I use has been having problems and I don’t have a signal for 2 days. I did connect the Ethernet cable to my ASUS to WAN with the DHCP enabled and it was having the same problem. I called T-mobile and they said since the speed is above 20 MB they have fulfilled their requirements…..so nothing to do for this issue. I will wait until the tower is repaired and will try a different router. If doesn’t work I will go the business route. I will keep you posted. Thanks for you reply to my message.
My question regarding t-mobile video streaming throttling down to 2.5mbps disappeared. Do you know why?
It's interesting that the Verizon Sim in slot A sees 3 total lte bands while the T-mobile in B only sees 1 lte band. Wonder if the Tmo in A would see more than 1 lte and could use them.
Wonder if you now someone with a Mofi5500 9191 that you could so head to head comparisons with. Granted to 9191 does not have the dual Sim for failover or bonding but is supposed to be a good unit.
One there question. With the T-mobile business account not being taxes/fees included how does it compare price wise in your area to the TMHI?
I havent gotten a bill yet. sim slot a and b provide the same service. I had the sims in both during testing.
I think Verizon home internet C-Band is capped at (appx) 300/20 I have 3 family members with them they all get 300/20 on them when I'm on the phone in the same spot I'll get like 750/80 on verizon. It won't be 300 on the dot but around that you may notice a quick jump in speeds then it goes down on your device.
Yes agreed
Nate, do you know if the t-mo business byod router plan throttles video streaming? Their business iPad plan does.
Tmobile home and business internet plans do not throttle based on usage (or anything). They do slow down during heavy congestion due to deprioritization.
So Nate, I currently have 2 - TMHI personal accounts, one trash can and one Sagecom w/ a 2X2 log periodic waveformantenna on each. Always having to reboot these things. How easy is it to get business accounts rather than personal?
Just go to a corporate tmo store and they can get you set up
Are you able to swap the straight talk home internet sims into these? Or is the straight talk sim locked to the imei like tmhi even though it’s using Verizon’s network?
if you can get a ST gateway with a physical SIM I would assume it would work.
When is NATERTATER getting a flipper zero?
Hello Nat - I have the new Verison Business Internet Gateway with an eSIM. Can I use IP pass-thru to connect the Verizon eSIM to my Peplink BR1 Pro 5G and use my Peplink as my primary wifi router on my LAN?
Thank you,
Terry McIntyre
Yes. If you have all eSIM gateways then then you either have to do "wifi as WAN" on peplink and/or have ethernet from the gateway to peplink. Verizon allows IP passthrough but I dont think any tmobile ones do.
Hi Nate.. What may be the price difference between TM Business and TM Home Internet?Can one use TM Business SIM into Peplink? Thanks.
Price can vary if you have unlimited cell phones on the plan too but the general price is $50/mo. I am using the T-Mobile business sim in the Peplink.
How much is this 5G Router ? (without the 5%)
Do a video on fw2000e how do i get a verizon sim card
depends what verizon sim card you want. I'd recommend getting it directly from verizon.
I’m thinking about the MOFI5500-5GXeLTE-EM9191
Or the teltonika rutx50 but the x50 doesn’t have n71 or band2 🤷♂️
About cudy 5G
@@migueldominguez1931 I’ll look into it
Nat - I just purchased a new TMobile Business Internet Gateway with a physical simcard. I put the Business simcard into my new Peplink BR1 Pro 5G Router but I cannot get it to connect. The peplink recognizes the simcard slot A but it only says connecting but never connects. Please help!
Did you type in the APN and set the MTU to 1420?
So unfortunately none of this applies to the vzw ARC model of the cube correct? I believe it is the newer box that uses an esim so we are sort of stuck with what we get?
Correct, i needed a physical verizon sim for this.
How do you get the connection to work? When I put in the apn nothing really happens despit strong signal. Im basicly using a chester cheetah but straight from the manufactueres. Im using verizon
That's not a Chester Cheetah then. Case is the same, inners different.
Hey nate, I just got this router along with the tmobile business internet plan. My router is struggling to get 20 down, while the KVD21 gets about 200 down. I have the attennas properly connected, health check disabled, even tried different APNs. Band 41 doesnt work at all, and 25 and 71 are getting under 20 down. Any ideas what else I can try?
Did you update the br1 router firmware and the 5g module firmware?
Nate -- hoping you can help. I installed this router in my RV and then contacted VZ to add the device to my account and get a SIM card from them. First tried to do it on their website by adding a BYOD device, but when it got to the screen to choose a plan, nothing came up. Went to a VZ store and they had the same issue. After 2 hours on the phone with customer service, the store personnel gave up. Their system recognizes the devices as compatible with their network, but can't seem to generate a plan for it. You didn't seem to have any problems connecting to VZ. Any ideas what I need to do or what I need to say to VZ for them to be able to connect the device to their network?
I have verizon home internet and just moved the sim from the verizon cube to the peplink. Contact chestertechrepairs.com to get a verizon SIM that will work, mention NaterTater.
How does it do if you just throw up that 5g SA on all bands? I know my phone is connecting on N2 and N66 randomly for 5g right now. Also, the trashcan doesn't use the normal AP... I'll pull it whne I get home and post if if you want. I know the sim cards are tied to that AP... wondering if that's your workaround? If you're in dev tools, the AP infomration is given in one of the fastmile files that loads when you switch between pages (I think it's when you load the page that gives you statistics). It also shows you the carrier aggregation that's currently going on (B2 and B66 like to synergize where I live).
I can pull the AP and send it over, maybe you can try the sim card with that AP and see if that works? I know the fast TMobile AP does not work with those SIM cards. But who knows with the other?
Sure let me know, open to try it! Fbb.home? If I leave it as auto 5G SA it will pick n71 for me but like you said it will depend on what SA is available to you.
Have you tested whether incoming ipv6 traffic is supported with T-Mobile? I know that incoming ipv4 traffic (i.e. port forwarding) is unlikely ever to be supported due to cgnat, but support for incoming ipv6 may (will) be the eventual solution...except that their gateways block that traffic.
I did not test it but the routers support IPV6 and passthrough so I dont see why it wouldnt work.
@@NaterTater It can still be blocked by the network provider even if the router supports it. But it would be a question for a home user whether they're solely lacking that capability on the gateway, or if it's also being blocked upstream by t-mobile.
T-mobile allows IPv6, in fact I get valid checks even when connected to their gateways.
@@NaterTater Hmmm, T-mobile allows INCOMING ipv6 connections? I was under the impression that this was blocked. I have a plex server I'd love to access remotely and thought an external vpn was the only solution. If I can get it to work via ipv6, then my problems would be solved!
@Marco Moreno I dont have an easy way to test it, others have said it works. I get IPv6 addresses on my devices. Try it and let me know!
I went to T-mobile today to convert my home 5G internet to business and get a new SIM to put into my personal modem. They told me that if I used my own device, the unlimited internet plan was unavailable and I would have to choose a plan with different data limits. I think the one at $50 was 80Gb. Not sure I use that but wasn't going to limit my data without checking further. Did you get unlimited data? If so, how did you do this?
You talked to someone at t-mobile that didnt know what they were doing then. Its publicly available and on tfb website.
What about home internet, give us some options if any
Verizon.
Is there a way on any of these 5G devices, especially the newer ones, to spoof/clone/enter your own IMEI number from a non-business *yes, non-business* 5G internet service since you cannot do this by default, as you said, without having a business plan? It would be akin, in the old way of doing things on routers to cloning a MAC address, but in this case an IMEI from another device instead. I know that at the time of this filming you said it was not possible. Has that changed in any of the new routers and/or firmware for the routers? Do you think it will become an option? It seems like on routers like the TP Archer MR200 (older router) this is a possibility, but that is a 4G router, and of course we are talking about 5G. Thoughts?
It's not possible on some 3rd party routers. It is on others: ua-cam.com/video/mj0b4FnJen8/v-deo.html
@@NaterTater: Ah, revisions. Got it... Yanno I had watched that video once but I think I got called out of the room while that was playing since I just left it going... Ok cool. :) I have another Q but will put it on that video since it is more relevant to that device and TMO. Thanks! :)
I'm using a pepwave br1 mk2 as of now is it possible to use the service from Verizon rather than using the service the mobilemusthave provide?
Yes. That's what I show/do in this video.
So the 5G tier of VZ's home internet is the only one that's BYOD. Not the LTE version, correct?
From my experience Verizon has always worked. It's just T-mobile home internet that is difficult.
@@NaterTater oh gotcha! That's good to hear. So to get custom hardware to work you need an approved and certified device on Verizon and the Custom APN?
I see you didn't change MTU to 1420? Doesn't seem it lets you pick the MTU per SIM?
correct, it is odd that it doesn't let you pick a MTU per SIM but I did do testing on 1420 and 1428 and neither verizon nor t-mobile seemed to care between the two.
Great vid. But how do u remove the nano sim from verizon cube?
If you have the ASK cube, its under the silicone flap by the ethernet ports. There's a little cover that comes off.
@@NaterTater i do have ask. I removed that silcone cover but only see a pin hole that seems to show the sim card color and what looks to be a usb c port???
Square cover is glued down
@@NaterTater ahh awesome! Ty sir
I need more detailed info on how I would go about getting the unlimited SIM cards from T-Mobile/ATT/Verizon. Can I do it online or do I need to go to one of their stores. What exactly do I ask them for or tell them what I want. Thanks much!
I'm using verizon's 5g home internet plan and t-mobile 5g business internet unlimited plan. Verizon's can be done online but for the business t-mobile you need to go to a corporate t-mobile store (not reseller).
@@NaterTater. The question I have what do I ask T-Mobil for when I just want to get the Sim Card only if I purchase the Peplink Router you have here! When I asked the kid at the store he wanted to sign me up for another T-Mobil Internet unit for home Wi-Fi! Do I ask for an Business unlimited Sim Card and say I have my own equipment? Maybe this guy was new working there?
@thomas sands i talk about how I got tmobile business 5g in this video ua-cam.com/video/SWBR1Nt8kmU/v-deo.html
Would this perform better than the Verizon ask-ncq1338fa?
Depends somewhat on your exact situation. If you already get 300/20Mbps then no as home internet SIM is throttled there. If you get less than that then yes it will likely improve your speeds and can easily add external antennas if needed.
If you have to use a business account to BYOD then this is a downer.
I use the home internet (non business) Verizon SIM but for T-mobile you need the business SIM (unless you use magic which isnt easy on this device).
So just to confirm in the business internet version of tmobile home, the SIM is device hot swappable and not IMEI locked? Is this something you need to request or normal by default?
Correct, default. I've swapped it to multiple modems, never tell them, always connects right away. No issues.
@@NaterTater good to hear now that you have the br1 5g and the balance 20x with the 5g module, do you plan on doing a comparison between the two?
@@JMSynthetics yes
I am not having the same luck. Went to a store…They gave me a SIM for a business internet (supposedly) but it doesn’t work. Maybe I should have just let them give me the full setup device and all and I just take the SIM out and use it elsewhere?
@@rcw119 I thought this was something you needed to order from their dedicated business group. Most T mobile locations around me at least are very unfamiliar with both the home and business versions of this product
Can you take the T-Mobile home internet anywhere if you travel alot if you're never home
It works wherever there is tmobile signal. They've flip flopped some on what the official terms of service say though.
@@NaterTater thanks
Did Verizon give you any pushback when you had the Home Internet IMSI /ICCIS (SIM) reprovisioned to the Pepwave IMEI?
No, I've swapped the SIM many times. One time I did get an email alert saying they detected a new device and I went in through the prompts online and everything was fine.
@@NaterTater I got the same email, saying I needed to confirm I had switched devices. When I clicked to confirm it said I had to change my plan/contact them. I contacted them, only to me told Verizon doesn't support BYOD. They said no plan change is available that will allow me to use my BR1. It was their support that sent me the link to your video. I'm not sure why, since they say they won't allow me to use my BR1. I tried all the changes you mentioned, but it just sits there saying connecting, but never actually connects. You mentioned changing the APN to v5ago1 or v5ga01, not sure if your o was an o or a 0, but neither allow me to connect. Any suggestions?
@dragonchase6567 since this video they appeared to lock down the IMEI and peplink doesn't have a revise/repair IMEI option. So i use a Chester Cheetah to achieve that ua-cam.com/video/mj0b4FnJen8/v-deo.html
@@NaterTater I just spent a grand on the BR1. I'm not spending more money on other devices. I'm just gonna tell Verizon to F off and move to another provider.
@dragonchase6567 you can try looking at verizon business internet. I know with tmobile they are the same with IMEI on the home plan but business is BYOD.
So no way of changing IMEI? On Peplink?
You could remove the modem chip and flash it with an adapter plugged into your computer. But I have another solution to show this Thursday
6:40 So Copy the IMEI
were you ever able to get the t-mobile home internet to work without switching to t-mobile business internet?
not on Peplink but I did on a new device...video premiere this Thursday at 4pm.
You say it won’t work with home internet. Did you try it on that device?
Also, you are way over my head. I don’t understand why a home sim won’t work. I originally turned on my T-Mobile model and ran the internet, without contacting T-Mobile. I also have a second T-Mobile sim which I got when they sent me a replacement modem. It’s never been used, so is it still “tied” to a modem? They told me to use my original sim in the new modem.
Correct
Hey Nate, thanks for the info! Which do you prefer, the Peplink Pepwave BR1 5G Pro you review in this video or the Peplink Balance 20X Router you also recently reviewed (ua-cam.com/video/SWBR1Nt8kmU/v-deo.html)?
right now I prefer the BR1 for its speed but I think the Balance just needs firmware support to get the same speeds and then would have more features and the same speed.
@@NaterTater I did notice that the Balance 20X supports Ai Mesh while the BR1 does not. However, that should be a pretty simple work around if you set up an Asus router as an access point and use it to create your mesh network. Would there be a better approach?
Looks hard to set up for a non technical person
perhaps. for most people they don't have to dive in too far to just get it to work.
Way out of my price range.
The Suncomm 02 is much cheaper and is basically the same so I'm planning on getting that instead as it's got a Qualcomm X55 modem in it. Another great perk about the Suncomm O2 is that it's completely open source as it runs the OpenWRT router firmware project!! So it supports all the same stuff like QOS, VLAN, VPN, custom routing tables, port forwarding, 3x CA, and of course band locking 🤘
more testing and devices to come 😏