I have always been curious about the Rytm and its workflow. You clearly demonstrate this machine is a gem! As always, it's not necessarily the device but the mind and hands behind it!!
I came from MPC to Elektron. And I have to admit, the workflow on Elektron is just so damn easy compared to MPC's. Thats just my view, there may be other people feeling it the exact opposite. But thats the nice thing, we have alot of choices and there is something for everybody.
Feel like MPC is a flawed workflow for creativity. I dreed sitting at MPC ONE. It's not inspiring and still feels like a vst/plug in daw host than an actual instrument. Lacks the tactile controls. Four knobs and buttons I can hardly read the labels on. (they are printed, not back lit or anything). It just isn't FUN. I wanted to get away from daw. Instead, all I ended up with was an 800.00 laptop shaped like a drum midi pad controller. LOL. I'm going to pick up The Analog Rytm I guess. It's as close to a machinedrum I can get and is much newer are far more options.
@@Curious_Skeptic Lately I had the "great" idea of using the MPC as a synth or drum machine to be controlled by my Digitakt. But no matter how I try, the thing just isn't up to it. It ignores the midi settings and listens to all midi channels. So if you want to control more than just the MPC via midi, it reacts to everything. The MPC is the only device with this problem. It has also been known for years that these problems exist. However, the average user does not notice this because he only uses it "standalone".
@ickebins6948 Hopefully, some other fool will be foolish to buy this thing so i can get some money back. Seems to be plenty of youtube gear brainwashing to go around on how great mpc gear is. Ipad pro and a nice audio interface would put this outdated backarse workstation to shame. Akai and their fan boys sure kept this box of promises going though.
@@Curious_Skeptic Well yeah it's "the old school mpc workflow" ... It has to be this bad because "we" want to make music like in the early 90s. And this is why it's only used to "make beats". Good luck to you, finding gear that makes you happy.
Try the octotrack sampler if you love the elektron workflow. I Love the analog RYTM mk2 but a downside in comparison to the octotrack is the lack of time stretching.
@@mpchead it's actually slightly cheaper than the MPC X brand new. £1,399 for the Rytm and £1480 for the MPC X. I've already spent the money upgrading from my old car that was badly needed for the "in the car," test so I'll have to wait for another windfall lol. Which would you advise me on getting between the two when I do? Are you going to surprise me? lol
I've got a Digitakt and I definitely prefer this way of working. It just feels like there's just less distance between getting an idea and actually putting that idea into the sequence than in other kinds of samplers. Any step can be anything. That said, not having defined slices can make it harder to get those ideas going in the first place. But that's one of the things that I use my Zoom Sampletrak for. It's really easy to get a bunch of slices going on that. I usually sequence them from the Digitakt and then either sample that sequence directly or sample the original source into the Digitakt and recreate the chops there. I like it a lot. I've been very happy with my music since I set things up this way.
Haha my 2 favorite hiphop heads on elektron gear in the house! Did you get the AR mk2 after all @marlow? Or did you borrow it again? It’s my favorite machine of all time for sure!
Could you make an overhead camera video? I have no idea how you are doing this track. I just got an Analog RYTM mkii. Are you setting Trig Locks for different Start End params?
@@mpchead Thanks Marlow. I primarily use the Toraiz SP-16 and it is surprisingly great, even though it shares the polyphony problem with the Rytm and does not have plug-ins or VSTs. But then it also shares the step sequencer and programmable per-step trig function much like the Rytm. Sometimes limitation fade in light of other gained positives of these machines. I appreciate the tip though.
Ok, so are you using that same flute sample on different steps, but changing the start and end points for each step? Is that how it works? By the way, I like all its separate outs. More gear should have lots of outs for going straight into a mixer.
You gotta learn how to use the sound manager so you can change synthesis models and samples per step. The 3 dual vco voices can use ALL of the synthesis machines....while the other voices are simpler but can even hold different sample sets.
Yeah it's easy to change the samples per step, I would still prefer to have more voices and pads, it's just a preference. But I still love this sampler.
Marlow….. did you ever tried the Pioneer Toraiz SP-16? Sadly I sold it 2 years ago… but I loved the easy workflow, the sequenzer, and the sampling possibilities ✌🏻🕊🙏🏻🌈
I have a Elektron Model Samples and I use it for polyrhythms and extra fx with my MPC. I haven't thought of chopping samples that way on it. It definitely isn't a sampler in that regard.
i dont think its the sequencer i think you are operating more immediately and responsively with the physical abbility and that`s the interest. when i use my keystep pro with mpc sampled stuff emergent magic happens too its like a peripheral access thing more than what was designed for....what certain sections of us need from Akai is the keyboard based MPC with step sequencer functionality at out finger tipss. its coming i`m sure, i see it as an arranger too like the force. but one we do want to keep and use live. lol i feel like all my future band members will all be individual MPC`s in their own right. hahaha
@@koalemos1679 MPC slicing has gotten crazy easier with each generation, most everything else can feel slow or clunky in comparison. The Octatrack grid slicing isn't hard at all, but it's nowhere near current MPC level easy.
Wow dude, 1699...thats crazy cash. Its actually cool but im good with my mpc. If someone gave it to me for a good price it would sit nice next to the mpc.
Yeah you can see it that way, you create a step and automate the start and end point for that stop out of the whole sample. All or almost all Elektron products work this way. For sampling it creates an interesting workflow like this one.
Hello, I just got a cheap MK1 needing repair and I thought I'd say that the MK1 does *not* have direct sampling in, but it has sample playback the same as the MK2. This music would have to be sampled on a different machine and then imported to the Rytm MK1 via Transfer app. Once imported you can fiddle with it like in this great video. Hope this helps 🙂
Elektron doesn’t care about hip hop. Chopping sucks and no time stretching on analog . Octatrak has the best time stretching but the chopping sucks again. Combination of the analog and octatrak is crazy. But the chopping thing will still be lacking. If Elektron wanted to they could fix these issues easily.
You can time stretch on this using an LFO, lookup time stretching on Digitakt which has the same sampling engine. It's not as quick or flexible as a sampler with it thought out but it works surprisingly well.
I have always been curious about the Rytm and its workflow. You clearly demonstrate this machine is a gem! As always, it's not necessarily the device but the mind and hands behind it!!
If only they could make a new rytm with extra voices and better slicing options.
You need an octatrack now. Random LFO to slice grid slices. So much fun
I came from MPC to Elektron.
And I have to admit, the workflow on Elektron is just so damn easy compared to MPC's.
Thats just my view, there may be other people feeling it the exact opposite.
But thats the nice thing, we have alot of choices and there is something for everybody.
Feel like MPC is a flawed workflow for creativity. I dreed sitting at MPC ONE. It's not inspiring and still feels like a vst/plug in daw host than an actual instrument. Lacks the tactile controls. Four knobs and buttons I can hardly read the labels on. (they are printed, not back lit or anything). It just isn't FUN. I wanted to get away from daw. Instead, all I ended up with was an 800.00 laptop shaped like a drum midi pad controller. LOL. I'm going to pick up The Analog Rytm I guess. It's as close to a machinedrum I can get and is much newer are far more options.
@@Curious_Skeptic Lately I had the "great" idea of using the MPC as a synth or drum machine to be controlled by my Digitakt.
But no matter how I try, the thing just isn't up to it.
It ignores the midi settings and listens to all midi channels.
So if you want to control more than just the MPC via midi, it reacts to everything.
The MPC is the only device with this problem.
It has also been known for years that these problems exist.
However, the average user does not notice this because he only uses it "standalone".
@ickebins6948 Hopefully, some other fool will be foolish to buy this thing so i can get some money back. Seems to be plenty of youtube gear brainwashing to go around on how great mpc gear is. Ipad pro and a nice audio interface would put this outdated backarse workstation to shame. Akai and their fan boys sure kept this box of promises going though.
@@Curious_Skeptic Well yeah it's "the old school mpc workflow" ...
It has to be this bad because "we" want to make music like in the early 90s.
And this is why it's only used to "make beats".
Good luck to you, finding gear that makes you happy.
Top tip with the rytm the samples smack harder if you load them in via usb 👍 not as quick and fun way to do it but hayho
Yo, I'm glad you revisited the rytm... It's a great piece.
Try the octotrack sampler if you love the elektron workflow. I Love the analog RYTM mk2 but a downside in comparison to the octotrack is the lack of time stretching.
There exists a handy trick combining retrigs and the lfo if you absolutely need TS on the AR.
Can you create some videos using this machine again please. I really like this video.
I don't have it anymore, miss it though
Arrrhhhh!!! Why did I click on this? Your workflow on the Rytm looks and sounds so cool and easy that I now want one. Damn lol. Great video MPC Head
Not responsible 😂 I love it too but I still haven't had the courage to spend that much on a Drum machine.
@@mpchead it's actually slightly cheaper than the MPC X brand new. £1,399 for the Rytm and £1480 for the MPC X. I've already spent the money upgrading from my old car that was badly needed for the "in the car," test so I'll have to wait for another windfall lol.
Which would you advise me on getting between the two when I do? Are you going to surprise me? lol
best way to start my day
🙏🏼
Oh snap workin with the rytm...I think you got analog filters and some other stuff on there for the warmth
yeah definitely all the warmth you need
I've got a Digitakt and I definitely prefer this way of working. It just feels like there's just less distance between getting an idea and actually putting that idea into the sequence than in other kinds of samplers. Any step can be anything. That said, not having defined slices can make it harder to get those ideas going in the first place. But that's one of the things that I use my Zoom Sampletrak for. It's really easy to get a bunch of slices going on that. I usually sequence them from the Digitakt and then either sample that sequence directly or sample the original source into the Digitakt and recreate the chops there. I like it a lot. I've been very happy with my music since I set things up this way.
"any step can be anything" I think that's it.
Haha my 2 favorite hiphop heads on elektron gear in the house! Did you get the AR mk2 after all @marlow? Or did you borrow it again? It’s my favorite machine of all time for sure!
Yeah! My hip-hop mentors 😀
Could you make an overhead camera video? I have no idea how you are doing this track. I just got an Analog RYTM mkii. Are you setting Trig Locks for different Start End params?
Yes that's it, just changing start and end points on the step.
have you seen the octotrack ? it does all of that but still only 8 voices. the chopping looks dope on the octotrack.
Yeah I know about it but never tried it, these machines are so expensive though, wish someone could lend me one for a week.
@@mpchead I am sure someone on the Elektronauts forum will let you try one :-) I don’t have mine anymore unfortunately.
That’s a dope machine and I have held back for a good while due to the price. You making it sound good.
Rethink it well, I has a few achilles heels.
@@mpchead Thanks Marlow. I primarily use the Toraiz SP-16 and it is surprisingly great, even though it shares the polyphony problem with the Rytm and does not have plug-ins or VSTs.
But then it also shares the step sequencer and programmable per-step trig function much like the Rytm. Sometimes limitation fade in light of other gained positives of these machines. I appreciate the tip though.
Have you looked at the s2400? I'm an MPC head too (60, 2000xl and One). I got my s2400 today and it's a game changer!
Yeah I thought about getting it a few times, it can happen one day, I wouldn't be surprised.
When did you order your?1
The S2400 is we’re it’s at …MY GOD !
Ok, so are you using that same flute sample on different steps, but changing the start and end points for each step? Is that how it works?
By the way, I like all its separate outs. More gear should have lots of outs for going straight into a mixer.
Dope technique
Damn, I really miss the overhead camera in this video :((
1:44 See how that’s rocking sheesh!!!!!!
You gotta learn how to use the sound manager so you can change synthesis models and samples per step. The 3 dual vco voices can use ALL of the synthesis machines....while the other voices are simpler but can even hold different sample sets.
Yeah it's easy to change the samples per step, I would still prefer to have more voices and pads, it's just a preference. But I still love this sampler.
Been waiting on this
Is this a step sequencer drum Machine only?
@@ulyssesbenton9921 samples as well
Marlow it would be cool to get your thoughts on the Toraiz sp-16 since it's got the slicing and the P.Locks
Dope beat!
this is what I think Iam looking for I love stepsequencers. are the drums you using your own samples or are the sample sounds from the electron
My samples, the step sequencer is great, I just wish they could make a sampler with more polyphony.
nice workflow
Bruh. SMH. Your beats are like healthy chocolate cake.
Loving the vids dude! Super slick info!!! Are you using pre amp between the turntable and the rytm or the mpc?
That turntable has a line out
would be better if you'd show the RYTM screen for this 'tutorial'
if your into sampling Digitak is a more powerful sampler.
Specially now with the mk2 stereo and more tracks.
Marlow….. did you ever tried the Pioneer Toraiz SP-16? Sadly I sold it 2 years ago… but I loved the easy workflow, the sequenzer, and the sampling possibilities ✌🏻🕊🙏🏻🌈
Never tried it, it costs a bit that's why I never got one.
I have a Elektron Model Samples and I use it for polyrhythms and extra fx with my MPC. I haven't thought of chopping samples that way on it. It definitely isn't a sampler in that regard.
mpcs workflow is def. better…dope video as always
Sounds more like an Ensoniq. I like it!
Blasphemy!
@@cvltzilla I said "like". Not as good as. Not better. Like. Is it as good as an EPS M? No. It sounds better than an Akai, using Ensoniq math.
Bro I’ve been watching your mpc videos since I started making music again.
I bought a digitone now I want to sell my mpc for a analog rytm I think
Give it a week, think about it. The mpc is an all terrain and you can do everything with it. The Rytm is pretty cool and a great sampler but....
i dont think its the sequencer i think you are operating more immediately and responsively with the physical abbility and that`s the interest. when i use my keystep pro with mpc sampled stuff emergent magic happens too its like a peripheral access thing more than what was designed for....what certain sections of us need from Akai is the keyboard based MPC with step sequencer functionality at out finger tipss. its coming i`m sure, i see it as an arranger too like the force. but one we do want to keep and use live. lol i feel like all my future band members will all be individual MPC`s in their own right. hahaha
the Force had it almost but I think it missed the target.
Arturia’s sequencers are fun too. Sequencer workflow is nothin to sleep on
"I wish they would put out a sampler" The Octatrack wants to know your location.
I would say naahh. It great at mangling samples but so can’t stand the slice feature on that machine.
@@Dewane1511 It's way faster if you use the slice grid function. That being said, I've never had an MPC so I don't really know how they compare 🤷
@@koalemos1679 MPC slicing has gotten crazy easier with each generation, most everything else can feel slow or clunky in comparison. The Octatrack grid slicing isn't hard at all, but it's nowhere near current MPC level easy.
This machine is under rated bc I've underrated it. As i listen it's a sonic adventure
super video quality in recent movies!
You noticed 👍🏼 got some new lights
@@mpchead it looks great. Definitely liked your old ones
Are you running all your beats through the analog heat?
Wow dude, 1699...thats crazy cash. Its actually cool but im good with my mpc. If someone gave it to me for a good price it would sit nice next to the mpc.
Yeah it's too expensive I agree. It's an all analog sampler, compressor and filters. There's nothing like this out there. But yeah it's too much.
Nice👍🙏
Do you clear all the samples before uploading on UA-cam etc?
Oooh Marlow you're cheating on us with Electron EH :P I still work on getting my head around the MPC, thanks to your videos that this is possible!
definitely a cheat what this workflow does
You want a hiphop Melodie?
I got cha 🎹
What’s ur top 5 sampler
maybe a video on that.
@@mpchead Definitely
Defo.
Do you still have the rytm?
I never owned it, it's my friend's rytm
Wanna know this sample, boss
Violation
Digitakt has the same workflow if you don't care about the analog drum engine.
Yeah I know but also you lose the pads and the performance mode and mute mode, but yeah the analog is really where the money is for sure.
@@mpchead of course there is mute mode with the digitakt. the only thing the digitakt lacks is it only samples mono.
So hold on. This thing basically creates patterns out of a sample? Essentially automates chops?
Yeah you can see it that way, you create a step and automate the start and end point for that stop out of the whole sample. All or almost all Elektron products work this way. For sampling it creates an interesting workflow like this one.
Elektron doesn’t care about hip hop. No time stretching and the chopping sucks on the analog.
Fkn dope 😙
If I had money I would buy this and A4 for the user experience it brings to the table. Too bad I'm broke :-p
Man you should be payed by the company for this type of video! Fodes
can you do this on the mk1?
yeah I think it's the same machine with just a different shell
Hello, I just got a cheap MK1 needing repair and I thought I'd say that the MK1 does *not* have direct sampling in, but it has sample playback the same as the MK2. This music would have to be sampled on a different machine and then imported to the Rytm MK1 via Transfer app. Once imported you can fiddle with it like in this great video. Hope this helps 🙂
Octatrack man :)
Elektron doesn’t care about hip hop. Chopping sucks and no time stretching on analog . Octatrak has the best time stretching but the chopping sucks again. Combination of the analog and octatrak is crazy. But the chopping thing will still be lacking. If Elektron wanted to they could fix these issues easily.
that's true it's a shame companies don't battle it out
You can time stretch on this using an LFO, lookup time stretching on Digitakt which has the same sampling engine. It's not as quick or flexible as a sampler with it thought out but it works surprisingly well.
All the drum tutorials move to fast especially when comes down to showing which buttons to press.
Is good has one problem is this is so expensive. MPC x or MPC one is more better.
Yeah it is def expensive. But nothing really works like it.
Buy it off your friend haha
early :)