The 20 Greatest Commodore VIC-20 Games of All-Time

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  • In this video I countdown the 20 greatest Commodore VIC-20 games of all-time as voted for my you, the retro gaming community!
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  • @thelairdslair
    @thelairdslair  4 місяці тому +3

    Full Top 50 Games List:
    50 - Bewitched
    49 - Tank Commander
    48 - Pulse
    47 - R.I.P.
    46 - Doom
    45 - Lazer Zone
    44 - Popeye
    43 - Dodo Lair
    42 - Q*bert
    41 - Vic Nibbler
    40 - Metrodome
    39 - Quakers
    38 - Escape
    37 - Hellgate
    36 - Frogger
    35 - Myriad
    34 - Wacky Waiters
    33 - Amok!
    32 - Cosmic Cruncher
    31 - Paratroopers
    30 - Dig Dug
    29 - Hunchback
    28 - Megagalactic Llamas
    27 - Atlantis
    26 - Cheese & Onion
    25 - Perils of Willy
    24 - Matrix
    23 - Shamus
    22 - Alien Blitz
    21 - Sword of Fargoal
    20 - Choplifter
    19 - Spiders of Mars
    18 - Chariot Race
    17 - Star Trek
    16 - Space Snake
    15 - Tutankham
    14 - Donkey Kong
    13 - Voodoo Castle
    12 - Rockman
    11 - Pirate Cove
    10 - Adventureland
    9 - Jupiter Lander
    8 - Blitz
    7 - Vic Avenger
    6 - Jetpac
    5 - Radar Rat Race
    4 - Jelly Monsters
    3 - Gridrunner
    2 - Gorf
    1 - Omega Race

  • @TheStuffMade
    @TheStuffMade Рік тому +33

    My first computer was a VIC-20, it was amazing back then with the graphics, colors and sound. I didn't have that many games, but the User Manual was very good. Basically it was like 2 pages of: this is how you connect your VIC-20 to your TV and then the rest was: This is how you write programs for your new computer.

    • @MrMaxeemum
      @MrMaxeemum Рік тому +4

      That manual is brilliant, I loved typing in the long (at the time to me) programs from the manual only for them not to work, which was due to my short attention span and young age but it made me keep coming back and trying again and eventually I corrected my mistakes and it worked. I loved the "screenshots" and the representations of cursor up, down, left, and right. The C64 follows in the same vein but the Vic20 manual will always stick with me.

    • @gklinger
      @gklinger Рік тому +1

      Too right. I have never come across a better manual. Without it I doubt I would have had a career focused around computers.

    • @brucethen
      @brucethen Рік тому

      Yes I remember that manual, I used to read a chapter per night when I was supposed to be in bed asleep.

    • @gerrytemple5044
      @gerrytemple5044 Рік тому

      The VIC-20 was my first one too in 1982. Still absolutely love it. And great to see that there is devices like the Colour Maximite 2 by Geoff Graham which carry that spirit of creating your own content in Basic into the modern times 🧡

  • @SamM-oh2cx
    @SamM-oh2cx Рік тому +13

    The Vic 20 holds bitter sweet memories for me! While everyone I knew had either the spectrum 48k or Commodore 64, we had the Vic 20. Our local Video Rental store had about half a dozen Vic games and a billion Spectrum and Commodore 64 games that got constantly refreshed with the latest and greatest game releases!
    I think the only game I remember was blitz. Seeing Chariot Racer rings a bell but I can’t honestly say it’s one I had / played, seeing it here just struck a chord!
    The Vic kind of shattered my illusion of computers back in the day, it was just so unusable to be of anything useful.
    Enjoyed this video, thanks! Subscribed!

    • @thisisrob8750
      @thisisrob8750 Рік тому

      So unusable? Did you not just see a few of the great games for it. There was tons of other software too. Disk drive etc.

    • @sandal_thong
      @sandal_thong Рік тому

      I really wanted extra memory since "3583 bytes free" wasn't that much. Besides having game cartridges, I had a Commodore cassette deck; I typed in a lot of programs from books and magazines to save to tape. So I got some use out of it.

  • @urbanknish
    @urbanknish Рік тому +5

    Great list! I spent so much time with my Vic in the early 80's. Very fond memories.

  • @youngsey
    @youngsey Рік тому +5

    I really enjoyed the VIC 20.Thanks Mom And Dad.

  • @EmperorKonstantine01
    @EmperorKonstantine01 Рік тому +7

    This takes me back in Time !!! It had an Excellent choice of Vector graphics and good selection of games, some were very addictive as well. an ideally designed machine for our time, rather I see it been as one of the most colorful and expandable computers of its Era and a role model for its daughter computers in the 80's. Was cleverly designed and had less fail prone components then its other commodore counterparts. I never had a Vic fail on me, even the Roms...unless you neglect one of course or the power supply warps, above all these were all a good selection of games and those were mostly added on the penaultimate+ cartridge decades later...which became a must for the Vic-20 lovers.

  • @cleaverbrad
    @cleaverbrad Рік тому +8

    I like Cosmic Cruncher. It was loud and colorful and the pacman is replaced by the C=. My other fave was Demon Attack. The VIC-20 was my first computer (I was 11). I learned BASIC on it. Great video! Cheers!

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому

      Cosmic Cruncher is in the wider Top 40, got quite a few votes.

    • @traitoR142
      @traitoR142 11 місяців тому

      I had this game down to a science, i found a pattern that worked flawlessly , i just remember it was like cheating, you couldn't die. lol

    • @KabukiKid
      @KabukiKid 5 місяців тому

      I was 11 too! Hello, fellow Gen-Xer. ;-) I cut my teeth with BASIC on it, as well. I thought I was hot stuff knowing how to program basic games and whatnot. lol

  • @Skorpio420
    @Skorpio420 Рік тому +2

    Got my first computer chops on a hand-me-down VIC-20 when my brother got a C64. Loved my VIC-20, and just picked one up about six months ago.

    • @osheal
      @osheal Рік тому

      yeah rebought one as well mad nostalgia

  • @DocMicrowave
    @DocMicrowave 6 місяців тому +2

    I loved that little machine. It was the second computer I had gotten. The first was the Tmex Sinclair 1000. It was a nice intro into computers but got frustrating real fast with the membrane keyboard and intermittent crashes while typing in long programs. The Vic-20 was a breath of fresh air with color, sound, and a real keyboard. That and really launched me into computers. I was very much into electronics at the time and dove into interfacing my VIC into some of my breadboard digital projects for control and monitoring. Started out using the parallel port, but later learned to make use of the expansion/cartridge port after building my own "real world" interfaces.
    Ah, the days of computer discovery in my youth.
    My next and all time favorite computer was the Commodore 64. But the VIC-20 will always have a special place in my heart. I loved the games, but played mostly on the C64.
    I still have my original VIC, along with the TS 1000 and a few C64s. Also a C16 and C128. Even a couple of SX-64's I am restoring.
    I loved the games, but played mostly on the C64. Even ran a BBS for a time on the C64s.

  • @gklinger
    @gklinger Рік тому +2

    I can't complain about the list since it's totally subjecctive even if my top ten differs a fair bit. My faves in no particular order:
    - Tutankham
    - Lode Runner
    - Demon Attack
    - Sword of Fargoal
    - Galaxian
    - Sargon 2
    - Pole Position
    - Gorf
    - Pharaoh's Curse
    - Ultima: Escape from Mount Drash
    Such a brilliant computer. 40+ years and I'm still loving it.

  • @KabukiKid
    @KabukiKid 5 місяців тому +1

    My very first computer and I adored it. First game I ever played on it was a cartridge version of Adventureland. Boy, was I hooked. I was so proud of myself when I finally finished it. For fun, I played that game again only maybe five years back and I was stunned that I remembered most all of the puzzles and things to accomplish to finish the game. That game really stuck in my head! lol I got the 16K expansion cart and that really opened things up for me. I have great memories of Gorf, Choplifter... and Shamus... one that wasn't mentioned on this list. Great little game. :-)

  • @Typical.Anomaly
    @Typical.Anomaly Рік тому +3

    When I was about 7 years old in 1985, I had Gorf, Cosmic Cruncher, Raid On Fort Knox, Poker, Blackjack, Pipes, Radar Ratrace, Omega Race, Tooth Invaders, Jupiter Lander, Donkey Kong, and some others that I can't remember off the top of my head.
    The joystick I used had a rubber ball end that had toothmarks from my cat, Dusty. He liked it so I just let him chew on it and it was all good lol he was a great kitty

  • @davidwhaite3330
    @davidwhaite3330 10 місяців тому +2

    A great watch that, Think i got my Vic 20 late in 85 after having the brilliant Spekky 48k since 82 which actually ruled the 80s for home gaming for me,

    • @KabukiKid
      @KabukiKid 5 місяців тому

      Same story for me, but replace the Spekky with the C64 for me. :-) I still love my memories with that Vic-20, though.

  • @waynerowlinson6177
    @waynerowlinson6177 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the video. About 5 of these would be in my top 20 as well. I still have my original Vic-20 from about 1982 and a pretty huge collection of games. Games not on this list that I like more than some are Froggee, Vic-21 Blackjack, Artillery Duel, Galaxian, and one that my friends and I played a ton... Dodgecars. For this one, I remember three of us in the same room with three Vic-20s and 3 TVs. A great memory.

  • @MrKanjidude
    @MrKanjidude Рік тому +2

    Great video. That blue and white chess game reminds me of a very similar one I had on cartridge for my Commodore 64.

    • @KabukiKid
      @KabukiKid 5 місяців тому

      I think that was Sargon II... which makes sense, because Sargon III was on the C64. Probably the next evolution of that game! :-)

  • @MrYossarianuk
    @MrYossarianuk Рік тому +4

    Great video for a great machine

  • @ryancraig2795
    @ryancraig2795 26 днів тому +1

    The Vic was my first computer, in 1981, and Vic Avenger was the first game i had for it. Good times.

  • @drno-xc1yt
    @drno-xc1yt Рік тому +11

    I've always thought it was interesting to see the variance in quality of VIC-20 games. Some games (Vic Invaders, Omega Race) are amazingly good arcade ports considering the system's limited hardware, and then you've got Q*bert - that one is painful to see.

    • @brianpaul5667
      @brianpaul5667 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, while people were still finding their way and literally everyone was new and just starting to develop basic game mechanics the variance in quality is pronounced. That's why I laugh when people claim there's over 10k games for c64. There might be 10k unique pieces of software but the overwhelming majority are ultra rough "my first coding experience" experiments that are many times unfinished our broken with bugs. Once you filter out all the amateur shovel ware you end up at a number a lot closer to 500 than 10000.

    • @IsaacKuo
      @IsaacKuo Рік тому +1

      Bear in mind that a lot of these titles were cartridges, meaning the software code doesn't eat into the VIC's limited stock RAM at all. And the stock 5.5K of RAM is actually a lot of RAM compared to consoles of the time. For example, the Intellivision only had 1K of RAM, and even the much later NES would only have 4K of RAM.

    • @dbranconnier1977
      @dbranconnier1977 Рік тому

      Lode Runner, Shamus, Cosmic Cruncher, Raid On Fort Knox, Radar Rat Race, Vic Avengers and Omega Race are some of my favorite VIC-20 games.

    • @aytviewer2421
      @aytviewer2421 Рік тому

      @@IsaacKuo A stock VIC-20 had a mere 3,583 bytes (not K!) of available RAM once booted. I miss those days.

    • @sandal_thong
      @sandal_thong Рік тому

      I liked Omega Race on the VIC-20. People say the Atari 2600 version wasn't very good.

  • @WSS_the_OG
    @WSS_the_OG Рік тому

    What a great video. I wish I had the words to describe how desperately I wanted one of these back when I was a kid. I would see them on display (in department stores, haha), running something fascinating, but alas, it was not meant to be.
    Loved your video, and I see that it really was as amazing as I thought it was as a little kid, especially when framed in the context of when it was released. And, let's face it, as a fan of Star Trek, my sadness (at not having one) was amplified considerably.

  • @johneygd
    @johneygd Рік тому +2

    Those top arcade games are definitely a must have for it.

  • @gerrytemple5044
    @gerrytemple5044 Рік тому +1

    Happy to see some Scott Adams adventures there 🧡 But I really miss Moon Patrol 🥹 Great Video - cheers!

  • @EsmeAmelia
    @EsmeAmelia 10 місяців тому +2

    I love how the Jelly Monsters box art has zero hints that the game is a Pac-Man clone.

    • @KabukiKid
      @KabukiKid 5 місяців тому

      I noted that, as well! lol Sneaky, sneaky! ;-)

  • @cougar2013
    @cougar2013 Рік тому +2

    I’m undergoing extensive trauma therapy after taking a second look at the Jelly Monsters game cover

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому +1

      It's absolutely horrific! When I was making this video I couldn't stop starring at it, I just couldn't fathom how it came about!

    • @gunrock00
      @gunrock00 10 місяців тому

      Poor illustrator who couldn't work out what to do, probably @@thelairdslair

  • @mamayl8592
    @mamayl8592 Рік тому +2

    Mostly agree with the list. One game not mentioned was Jungle Hunt. Good port of the arcade game.

    • @marlinlee
      @marlinlee 10 місяців тому

      Absolutely agree on Jungle Hunt. Not only is it a great game but the Vic-20 port is one of the best ports.

  • @shawntucker9283
    @shawntucker9283 7 місяців тому +1

    #17 The picture on the cartridge was cool and well, we get phasers anyway we could back then.

  • @theunknownandunsolved6963
    @theunknownandunsolved6963 Рік тому +2

    Surprised not to see demon attack on this list, to this day vic 20 had the best version.

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому

      Only one person voted for Demon Attack, I really expected that and Atlantis to get more votes.

  • @Caffeine_Club
    @Caffeine_Club 4 місяці тому +1

    Radar Ratrace.... 'Three Blind Mice' will be forever burned into my brain thanks to this game.

  • @jkmac625
    @jkmac625 9 місяців тому +1

    I remember the VIC-20, it was my first computer from either Christmas 1981 or 1982. Don't remember having any games on cassette tape just on cartridges. I did have Radar Rat Race and space invaders game Star Battle and those were the two I probably played the most. The only other one I can remember is Mole Attack.

  • @serqetry
    @serqetry Рік тому +1

    Glad to see Radar Ratrace made the list, that was my favorite on the system.

  • @TFEnright5
    @TFEnright5 Рік тому +1

    The games I remember from my VIC 20 were Gorf, Omega Race, Demon Attack, Atlantis, Lunar Leepers, and The Count (and several other Scott Adams text games).

  • @qwaH
    @qwaH Рік тому +2

    Ah Gorf, best cart game I had on the old Vic, lost count of how long I spent on that one as it was always fun to go back to

    • @sandal_thong
      @sandal_thong Рік тому

      I finally got around to getting Gorf for the Atari a few years ago, but I played Gorf on the VIC-20 in the 1980s (as well as a few times at the arcade).

  • @dreamcaster4754
    @dreamcaster4754 Рік тому +1

    An older cousin of mine had a VIC-20 when I was little and I remember playing Clowns and Seawolf on it, surprised neither made this list.

    • @sandal_thong
      @sandal_thong Рік тому

      I missed getting Circus Atari on my 2600/VCS, though I played it another kids' home, so got Clowns for the VIC-20, which might not have been as good, but provided some entertainment.

  • @thebadgamer1967
    @thebadgamer1967 Рік тому +2

    Suprised my all time fave game Parker bros tutankhamun was only #15 truly top ten material also no Frogger I thought again Parker bros did an awesome conversion .great work lots of memories had no idea the Vic20 had a star trek game

  • @michaelcarrillo9297
    @michaelcarrillo9297 Рік тому +1

    Great Nostalgia
    However I would like to point out that the Better Vic20 games have appeared in the last 6-7 years.
    Cheese and Onion, Escape 2020, Pentagorat, Monaco GP. etc.

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому

      As I said in reply to a couple of other people, Cheese & Onion actually got quite a few votes, but not quite enough to make the Top 20.
      But it doesn't matter how good the homebrew games are, nostalgia always wins out in these polls.

  • @ProjectFrugal
    @ProjectFrugal 6 місяців тому

    Got a Vic-20 for my 12th birthday which cost my mum $500 NZD - not cheap. I spent 14 hours on it on the first day but had no tape player so once the power went off that was it (got one eventually). Highlight for me was learning machine code and programming a few games with a mix of basic and machine code with joystick and sound. A Space Invader clone was my peak effort. Good times back in the day.

  • @oo0Spyder0oo
    @oo0Spyder0oo Рік тому +1

    My first computer was the vic 20, a newsagent was getting rid of them for $50 AUD at the time, I think they were getting the old stock out in time for the incoming c64. I never had a tape drive for it so I kept typing in a program from the manual or a magazine or something each time I wanted to play it! Glad when I moved onto the c64 though, it was a massive upgrade.

  • @dragonchaserkev
    @dragonchaserkev Рік тому +1

    Makes me wish I had more experience with computers in the early-mid 80's. Used Apple ii'sinschool a bit mostly remembere playing Conan on it. My first PC was a Leading Edge 386, with the printer it was about $2500, must have been the early 90's.

  • @lancebbowman
    @lancebbowman Рік тому +1

    I never owned a Vic20 but I had a few games for that system due to trades and whatnot, but some of them would run on my C64 as well.

  • @CSGraves
    @CSGraves Рік тому

    I suspect some of my top games now would be quite different from my list back in the 80's... for example, I recall loving Garden Wars as a child, but seeing footage of the game now, the sheer amount of activity on the screen is brain melting!
    Gorf was definitely one that held up though!

  • @benstylus
    @benstylus Рік тому +2

    We had a vic 20 for a couple years (I think it was borrowed from someone). I remember Radar Rat Race and Omega Race fondly. Glad to see them on the list :-)
    The only other Vic 20 game I remember was tooth Invaders. I loved that one too at the time but it may not have aged so well. Would need to try it again to know for sure

    • @sandal_thong
      @sandal_thong Рік тому

      Radar Rat Race was the first cartridge my father got for me for that system. I also enjoyed Omega Race. I think I got tired of playing Atari, and got games for this system instead, like Clowns, Pole Position and Gorf.

  • @keyboard_g
    @keyboard_g Рік тому +1

    The retro groups should try some of the newer Vic20 games. For an all time list, these are all 40 years old.
    Example: Cheese and Onion is a smooth scrolling platformer.

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому +1

      I said in reply to another comment, Cheese & Onion actually got a lot of votes and only just missed out on the top 20. But with polls like this nostalgia ALWAYS wins out.

  • @doomie77
    @doomie77 Рік тому +1

    Played a TON of Omega Race! My faves were that, GORF, Cosmic Cruncher, Tooth Invaders, Gortek and the Microchips (an educational game) and weirdly enough, Hangman.

  • @ctchich4469
    @ctchich4469 Рік тому +1

    Demon Attack and Abductor were/are my favourite

    • @brianharrington5353
      @brianharrington5353 Рік тому +1

      Demon Attack was great, actually nice graphics and variety. I had Lunar Leaper, kind of repetitive, but the graphics were pretty good.

  • @SoftNFuzzy
    @SoftNFuzzy Рік тому +2

    As a UK VIC owner, my list would look quite different. I'd have Gorf, Jetpac and Blitz, but also titles like The Perils of Willy, Skyhawk, Bonzo, Star Battle, Raid on Fort Knox, Arcadia, Metagalatic Llamas Battle at the Edge of Time and Psycho Shopper.

    • @gunrock00
      @gunrock00 10 місяців тому

      Yeah, surprised that Perils of Willy wasn't in there

  • @samusvikerness661
    @samusvikerness661 Рік тому +2

    Is it practical to actually buy a Vic-20 these days to play it? I looked some up online but tested and working ones seem few and far between. I’d love to own one. The spider and snake games looked so neat for the time period.

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому

      Old Commodore hardware does seem more prone to faults than rival machines, I never managed to find a VIC at a good price.

  • @MrMaxeemum
    @MrMaxeemum Рік тому +1

    I loved my Vic 20. You had to use your imagination and I certainly did. As a kid, I played the games Wacky Waiters, Scramble, Jackpot and Radar Rat Race. When we eventually upgraded to the C64 and played the games Scramble and Jackpot I remember being disappointed as the graphics on the C64 were jerky and not as smooth as I thought they were on the Vic20. I then went back and played them on the Vic 20 only to find they were jerky, I was sure the versions I had were not the same as when I was younger so I searched high and low for the games that I thought I remembered, but they were the games I remembered, it's just my imagination filled in the details for me and as I grew older that magical imagination stopped working. Initially, I was also disappointed with the sound of the C64 because I could make music on the Vic20 much more easily (Even though it was out of tune, Radar Rat Race for example) it was easy to program music in basic. It was only later when my brain expanded that I came to appreciate the C64 with its ADSR and filters which were too complicated for the younger me. Anyway, the Vic20 is still an amazing machine that deserves more recognition than it does, it's just overshadowed by the mighty C64.

    • @sandal_thong
      @sandal_thong Рік тому

      I think I had Scramble, but it was on tape, not cassette and took awhile to load. It was fairly boring, so after a couple plays I'd move on to another game or project.

  • @sotheresthat7882
    @sotheresthat7882 10 місяців тому +1

    The iOS version of Gridrunner is unbelievable. I wish they would reissue it.

  • @piratesephiroth
    @piratesephiroth Рік тому +3

    8:52
    ahhh not the Popcorn Song again nooooooo

  • @tarstarkusz
    @tarstarkusz Рік тому +1

    The Vic was my first computer. It is hard to imagine a worse business computer than the VIC. The ONLY thing the vic had going for it, even for a gaming computer was it was cheap. I literally saved my allowance and lawn mowing to buy it because it was under 100 Dollars.
    The VIC was just one long series of compromises that leads to a whole that is not very good. No hardware scrolling. No hardware sprites. 5k of RAM. Extremely low resolution screen. I think even the atari 2600 has a higher horizontal resolution. The 22 character text mode is only 176 pixels wide. Using multicolor characters cuts that in 1/2.

  • @desiv1170
    @desiv1170 Рік тому

    I want to change my votes after watching this...
    Can't believe I forgot to include any of the Scott Adams adventures!!! I loved those!!! ;-)
    Of course, my top 5 changes weekly anyways depending on what I've seen/played recently... ;-)

    • @sandal_thong
      @sandal_thong Рік тому

      I had three of those, but probably should have gotten another couple.

  • @wetleyrocks3092
    @wetleyrocks3092 Рік тому +1

    7:15 All I can hear is the ZX Spectrum Knightlore tune, I wonder which came first?

  • @randysmith7094
    @randysmith7094 4 місяці тому +1

    I was 11 years old when I got my first computer in early 1982. Played lots of games and still play some old and new VIC20 games on emulation... #19 - Never heard of. # 18 - Never Heard of. #17 - Never heard of. #16 - Never heard of. #15 - Never heard of... WTF? I am in an alternate universe? #14 - Finally, I game I actually played! #13 nope, Text adventure? Who made this list?

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  4 місяці тому

      As the video says, it was voted for by people in the retro gaming community, over 300 of them to be exact.

  • @brucethen
    @brucethen Рік тому +1

    I dont remember jelly monsters, but i do remember a commodore game called cosmic cruncher. That was also a pacman clone

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому +1

      That got a few votes too and made the longer top 40 video.

  • @keithstevenson6892
    @keithstevenson6892 8 місяців тому +1

    There was a sking one that I spent hours on as well

  • @techkev140
    @techkev140 Рік тому +1

    Interesting video. Not sure I've learned anything vital but interesting.
    I read the title. Then you said top VIC-20 games of all time, i engaged thought... and then really thought... followed by tumbleweed. Realised i know very little about the VIC-20's games. I remember using one a few times in computer studies at school, used mainly PETS, the sole C64 was hogged. BBC Micro replaced them all eventually.
    Interesting words used in the Shatner advert. Did he say best or most exciting computer of the 80's, words to that effect? Start of the wrong couple of decades to claim that. Understandable as the 70's were a bit slow, slow and brown, with beige for computers.
    Interesting the term games console had not yet reared it's head, back then they were apparently just called games. They were pretty much locked in with what they had, no internet, no patches nor updates. Each machine a veritable Pong multiverse.

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому +1

      His claim is nonsense, the Texas Instruments TI-99 and Atari 8-bit both came out in 1979 and were much more capable, especially the Atari which wasn't bettered for years.

  • @chrislewis7
    @chrislewis7 Рік тому

    VIC-20 was my first ever computer and the step to my career in computing. When friends had Spectrums I wanted something with a real keyboard as I wanted to program. My favorite games were Gorf, Cosmic Cruncher, Perils of Willy, Sargon II and of course Blitz.
    Surprised Perils of Willy didn't make the Top 20.

    • @sandal_thong
      @sandal_thong Рік тому

      I liked Gorf at the arcade, so got it for my VIC-20.

  • @daved1818
    @daved1818 Рік тому +1

    Both the official Galaxians port and Star Battle rip off are great games that deserve to be on the list.

  • @themadmoderator8465
    @themadmoderator8465 Рік тому +1

    great video all best for 2024

  • @stephenpalmer9375
    @stephenpalmer9375 Рік тому +4

    UNderstand the methodology.. but surprised.. a) Jetpac isn't in the Top3 - it's the best looking game on the platform by miles b) Matrix didn't make it. 100% approve of Omega Race tho :)
    And Blitz... helped that it was a pack-in game.. but I played it for hours and hours :)

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому +1

      Matrix only just missed out on the top 20 by like 2 points.

  • @kins749
    @kins749 Рік тому +1

    I remember playing Blitz on my mate's VIC 20 but it was not an original, it was a copy of the 1977 Atari arcade game Canyon Bomber

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому

      It has similarities, but I wouldn't call it a clone as they play quite different. For a start Blitz is a single player game and you can't crash in Canyon Bomber.

    • @kins749
      @kins749 Рік тому

      True, but definitely heavily influenced by Canyon Bomber. @@thelairdslair

  • @Seventizz
    @Seventizz 7 місяців тому

    Number one and two are correct - but I'd switch them around. Gorf was a blast on the system. I'm surprised with your PacMan clone pick when Cosmic Cruncher was such a solid title.

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  7 місяців тому

      I didn't pick them, as outlined in the video, these rankings are based on the votes of over 300 people in the retro gaming community.

    • @Seventizz
      @Seventizz 7 місяців тому

      @@thelairdslair Ugh, you warned us of that at the start of the clip too.

  • @aytviewer2421
    @aytviewer2421 Рік тому

    So glad you did not put Ms. Pacman on that list. Though it looked better than any PacMac game on home consoles, the playability was horrendous. It was super slow too. Everything moved a fraction of the speed of the game in the arcade. I felt so ripped off when i purchased the game for my VIC-20 back in '83 (or '84?). Gorf was my favorite but I was a bit disappointed to discover upon the first play that it did not have the Galaxian screen. Big bummer. I still remember going back to the box and reading front and back to notice that indeed Galaxian were not mentioned anywhere. Bummer. Later and thanks!

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому

      Nobody voted for Ms. Pac-Man at all, I didn't choose what went in, it was purely based on voting.
      None of the home versions of Gorf had the Galaxian level due to copyright reasons.

    • @aytviewer2421
      @aytviewer2421 Рік тому

      @@thelairdslair Yep about Galaxians --but my teenage self back then sure didn't know that and felt ripped off at the time. Still, Gorf would have been my personal favorite vote.

  • @ribenasquash
    @ribenasquash Рік тому +2

    I had a VIC20 with Radar Rat Race and like 10 text adventures, all on cartridge. No idea where I might find games. So it was disappointing for that reason.

  • @MNNMMNNMMNNM
    @MNNMMNNMMNNM Рік тому

    Many games wount run, you get syntax error, in one format its prg can they be played on emulator? Thanks

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому

      You need to download a program called PRG Starter, you can link it with VICE and it automatically sets up the ROM/RAM requirements for you, it's brilliant!

    • @MNNMMNNMMNNM
      @MNNMMNNMMNNM Рік тому

      @@thelairdslair Thank you recommendation, i have had the HYPERPSIN set of VIC-20 there are some games in PRG and always ends with SYNTAX ERROR
      I wil try PRG Starter, thanks helping me out!

  • @jasejj
    @jasejj Рік тому +3

    Very US-biased list here. Not your fault, most of the people on the forums will be Yanks, but I have to say as a British VIC owner back in the day I don't recognise the majority of these...

    • @IsaacKuo
      @IsaacKuo Рік тому +2

      I think the VIC-20 was more popular in the USA than anywhere else, though. It's not like the C64 where the center of gravity of the C64 enthusiast community is basically the UK. (So much so that people tend to not realize how big the C64 was in the USA.)

    • @urbanknish
      @urbanknish Рік тому +1

      Curious to know what your top 20 picks are Jason.

    • @savajeff
      @savajeff Рік тому +1

      That's funny. I'm from the US and looking at this list I thought it was UK-biased. LOL.

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому +2

      It was mostly Americans that voted, but there were some Brits and Italians too. Actually there are probably more British VIC games in the back half of the Top 40.

    • @urbanknish
      @urbanknish Рік тому

      Most Americans that I know that still concern themselves with retro-related things are not interested in any way with the Vic - which is sad. That said, the list of games was great IMO. All very impressive tittles that are fun to play today. I would be curious if there are strong British favourites that are hidden gems to Americans and the rest of the world.@@thelairdslair

  • @PhilippeSocias
    @PhilippeSocias Рік тому

    No vicross 😢.
    A nice port of crossroads on the vic.

  • @Bethos1247-Arne
    @Bethos1247-Arne 3 місяці тому +1

    it should have come with 8 KB RAM, meaning it would have 6.5K free, almost double of the 3.5K.

  • @dr.ignacioglez.9677
    @dr.ignacioglez.9677 Рік тому +1

    I REALY LOVE MY C64 ❤❤❤ FOREVER ❤❤❤

  • @JGreen-le8xx
    @JGreen-le8xx Рік тому +1

    I agree with the list except for Blitz.. That game was crap! All you did was time when to hit the fire button. I would swap it out for Bomber which was an amazing Scramble clone (which I thought actually looked better than Scramble)

  • @workonesabs
    @workonesabs 4 місяці тому

    Bonzo . loved that

  • @bigguy4871
    @bigguy4871 5 місяців тому +1

    Some of the games on your list were good but a few were stinkers (no offense). Actually the best games were created in the last few years. They pushed the hardware to the max and will blow you away. Check out "Chuckie and Egg", "Prince of Persia", "Get more Diamonds", "Cheese & Onion", etc.

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  5 місяців тому

      No offense taken because I didn't choose these games! As the intro states, these games were voted for by around 500 people in the retro gaming community.
      Prince of Persia was released after this video was made, but Cheese & Onion did make the top 40 and only just missed out on the top 20.

  • @NNokia-jz6jb
    @NNokia-jz6jb Рік тому +1

    Never seen a c16 or vic20 in my life. Only 128 and 64.

  • @markdillon5494
    @markdillon5494 Рік тому

    My first computer was the Vic20 but it was a terrible machine with rubbish games. My parents bought me one from a pile of on sale VICS sold from 'What Every Woman Wants' store in early eighties for £70. Even back then it was terrible. Computing began for me once I sold my Vic20 and I got a Commodore 64 - a real computer.

  • @brianpaul5667
    @brianpaul5667 Рік тому +2

    I think the text games should have been left out and some modern games like pentogorat, cheese & onion, and planet X1 should have been included.
    I can't even imagine the level of disappointment if someone invited me over to use their new vic20 computer that I'd seen advertised has having cool arcade games, only to have them plop on a humdrum text adventures.
    "Wtf is this? I thought you said you had video games but this is just a digital version of one of those dumb choose your own adventure books. I can have this experience without a computer, where's the video games you promised!?!?!

    • @thelairdslair
      @thelairdslair  Рік тому +3

      I don't get to decide what games should and shouldn't be left out, it's what the community voted for.
      You'll be pleased to hear Cheese & Onion only just missed out on the Top 20 and is in the wider Top 40 video.

    • @brianpaul5667
      @brianpaul5667 Рік тому +1

      @@thelairdslair looking forward to it. Thanks for the content I never get tired of hearing different takes and discussions on all these systems and games.

    • @GandaMelgao
      @GandaMelgao Рік тому

      I actually liked that the text adventures were included. To me (and this is only my personal taste), they are the only games I would play on this machine. On the Amiga I played all sorts of games, including text adventures, but on the Amiga those were the minority. Not meaning the criticize or disrespect nobody, it just my personal taste 😊

    • @sandal_thong
      @sandal_thong Рік тому

      I don't think a list of best games for the VIC-20 would be complete without Scott Adams text adventure games. I got three: Adventureland was first, then Pirate Cove which was an easy win, then Voodoo Castle which took a little time. I heard Adventure for Atari was based on a text adventure game, Colossal Cave, but why didn't they convert some more to video action-adventure if it was successful?
      I don't think I ever invited anyone over to play games on the VIC-20. It had only one joystick port so it was just one-player. I did play Atari 2600 games at other kids' homes, but only a few were two-player games as the one-player game became the thing in the 1980s.

  • @skywarp727
    @skywarp727 Рік тому +4

    Nice video. I'm not familiar with his system, but some of those games look great. Excellent port of not space invaders.

  • @AndrakarVideo
    @AndrakarVideo Рік тому +1

    Thanks!
    Winter Games/Events. Kingsoft.