@@BigRussianCatWithFloppyEars they should have agreed to the 1948 deal to have the two be separate i think it would have all worked out much better if that happened Palestinian people get to have their own nation Israelis get to live in their home land if the deal was accepted this supposed "genocide" wouldn't happen
You are INCORRECT in the statement "Every male and female must complete a mandatory term of service." This is untrue, Orthodox Jews are EXEMPT. Orthodox Jews are 19% of the Israel. Arab and Christian "citizens " of Israel are often denied entry into the IDF. Also, anyone who demands exemption is usually given it. Try to talk about what you know. Stay in your lane.
Watch me try to walk through the mine field of talking about the Israel Defense Forces without getting canceled! #cancelcappy What do you all think of the TAR-21 is it a good move by Israel to switch away from their old M4s?
@@seansoraghan3245 bulpups are like a cancer to the gun world. Every country that picks one as their main infantry rifle eventually comes to regret it.
This video reminds me of a time The Chieftain was talking about the Merkava and how he asked an Israeli tanker if he thought it was the best tank in the world. Apparently, the Israeli tanker said something along the lines of "We don't think it's the best tank in the world, we think its the best tank for Israel."
I’m in SA also. My Dad was 101st. Been shooting my whole life. My Frd used to say, “If you’re ever running from Ben shooting at You, run to the Left! Bec He pulls a little to the right! Ha. It’s your only chance, cause He WILL get You!” Bec of the weight being at the back, most all movement is simply faster. And behind knowledge, speed to action, is life or death.
The man presenting this channel is one of the most charismatic in the military topic, it's very pleasent to watch, and the information is presented in a way that results informative, accurate and chill. Thankyou!!
Israeli here: this was quit a laugh, not really used to see how we're viewed by others. Though there were some bits not so accurate or outdated, You've been kind and professional to stay on point without politics. good on you mate!
I loved mine when I was in the Colombian Military. Very compact and still packed a punch when we returned fire. Very easy transition from Galil ACE and M4.
Los están usando las unidades senafront en la frontera Panamá-Colombia. Cañón corto y el estándar , incluso los calibres adaptados creo a 9mm para unidades motorizadas.
i was a foreign soldier( lone soldier) in the idf, was issued a first gen tar21 for preamtive training (2 weeks) before switching to the second gen x95 for about a year during training then the 3rd gen x95 for another 2 years. amazing gun to shoot, within weeks i was able to get a zeroing at 25 meter with a grouping of a cm (and that was the first rifle i shot!) incredibly easy to learn this weapon and great for me cause im a lefty.
I own the civilian version of the X95. As a Marine in the’70s I shot the M16. At the time I absolutely loved the m16. I also like the ar platform. But I have to say that the Tavor just feels ergonomically perfect for me. The weapon just seems to hit your shoulder on target, and falls back on target with no effort at all. And at 26”, it’s the first weapon I would grab for if (May God forbid) I needed to protect my loved ones or myself. I read an interesting quote but can’t remember who said it, it something like this “use your pistol to fight your way to your rifle”. Better yet just keep your weapon of choice close by.
Thank you for sticking to weapons and not going into politics!! Also - Not all of the Israeli infantry units use the Tavor, our paratroopers still use the M4.
As a prior US soldier and contractor, I love the Tavor. The ability to pack an M16 barrel in something shorter or same length as the M4 is pretty great. Like any weapon, there is a learning curve, especially coming from M4/AK platforms. No C Clamp sent me for a loop, as did reloads. However, after practicing for a whole I found the Tavor to be just as easy to handle. The weight distribution for me is a real plus. Having your mass located in the rear does make the weapon easier to rotate up and easier to hold in position. It does take some getting used to, but once again that goes for any new weapon you pick up. Overall, very nice rifle.
They dropped the TAR-21 in favor of the X95 (MTAR-21) starting about a decade ago. There's still quite a few units that still use M4s, especially special forces units, but they mostly just use the MTAR now.
Special forces don't use the M4, only the Paratroopers and another brigade uses them for reasons of ego. Special forces use the AK family sometimes though...
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 Well the Russians aren't really our enemies and they are useful weapons for certain missions. Yes, Ego. They claim it's weight and so on but no. Anyone who serves know the paratroopers must always be special, hence they have special uniforms and still use the M4.
Not without isues. Remember guys safelock broke and hes like "look at this plastic, what is that?!" . Also, i was a sharpshooter(brigade champion) . M4, green iron ammo, x4 aim ... when i got practice with "short tavor", standart 300 meter , its where much worser in terms of acuracy . Maybe cuz its has shorter barell, maybe my lack of exp with Tavor...
IWI Tavor TAR-21 is a standard issue rifle for the Para-SF of Indian Armed Forces. There must be a good reason if a special forces unit like this rifle, as they operate in almost every possible terrain and believe me we have almost all the possible terrains in India.
The TAR-21 (aka SAR) was the original Tavor and was adopted by the IDF in 2003 although primarily for Special Forces. The latest version is the Tavor X95 (aka MTAR-21) and has been in use since 2009 again initially with Special Forces but is now the standard issue for all infantry units and has been since 2012.
yes I wanted to cover their switch in the mid 2000s from what I heard around 2009 is when it was adopted although it was created earlier than that. I wanted to focus on that switch to the TAR from the M16
We also had to cut them out and sew in the elastic ourselves. Any helmet modifications you see on IDF helms are custom made by that soldier.... Or your buddy that knows how to sew.
I have a Tavor SAR with Meprolight M21 red dot and FAB Defense bipod, the trigger is rubbish but taking it to gun range is super cool, like driving a Ferrari into a domestic car meet even though the rifle wasn’t that Gucci. You’ll get lots of attention. People at the range are always like: Wow, what is it? Damn, that thing looks like Alien’s gun!! Can I take a picture with that? Is it a Tavor?? I’ve never seen 1 in person.
As a Tavor fan I have been waiting for this day! (Also good to see some people trying to improve the Bullpup design instead of dismissing it out of hand because of it's teething problems)
I have been rocking the SAR-21 since spring of 2013. I was one of the earliest members of the Tavor Owners' Group and a lot of folks get that rifle and have to relearn their shooting techniques. The less experienced shooter has less to unlearn that the more experienced shooter.
@@dbmail545 Case in point: I joined the US Army in 1970; qualified with the M-16A1, then never shot an AR -style rifle again until I qualified with an M4 for a deployment in 2006. For me, who is a left-hander with no particular experience with the AR-style rifle, the advantages of the bullpup rifle outweigh the popularity of the US infantryman's favorite longarm.
Just found this channel and love it. Not only is it highly informative but has some really humorous moments in it. I think the talented young man doing the narration is excellent it his delivery and possibly the best best on all of YT. Two thumbs up 👍👍
@@spartanx9293 the tavor is not perfect, and when I served, I had an early version of it that had some issues. But the newer versions are really incredible, I must say. And I've used the M-16 and AK-47, which I'm not belittling, they're also very good and reliable, but the tavor is really awsome. Reliability, comfort, (especially while wearing body armour due to it's short stock) simplicity to strip down, range, accuracy, etc. Are all serious pluses. At least in my opinion.
@@spartanx9293 maybe the earliest version. The current one is called the micro tavor and it feels so nicely balanced. Anyway, think whatever you like. This is my opinion from personal experience. Cheers!
@@ruihenigI just don't like it aesthetically yes I know aesthetics have no basis on actual performance yes I know that a good working gun is better than a pretty one yada yada yada yada I find it ugly it's the same with a lot of Israeli weapons I also hate the desert eagle and Uzi I just do not like their look
Also the placement of the release catch is good as it naturally where the hand falls to take a mag off, guessing the Israeli’s just leave mags on the floor
Great analysis, ground forces are the backbone of the victory. The same occurred during the Falkland war where Argentina's air force was hitting hard the UK forces, but despite that ground forces composed of the army and marine components were advancing constantly against a weak land force, making the route for a fast winning.
@Task & Purpose I Carried the L85 and and L85A2 on operations for 18 1/2 years, I can assure you it has last round hold open and the bolt release is just above your thumb as you replace the magazine.
Shalom from Israel, 1. That happened / took place around 2003- 2010ish. 2. Most SF/CT/ TIER 2- 1 keep in use the M4 and Frankenstein type SBR from collectible/rebuild / part kits and so on. 3. What the IDF is using is X95. TAR 21 was the first gen (2003-+). 4. There is absolutely no question or discussion about the origin of the FALAFEL : IT IS NOT ISRAELI ORIGINAL , IT'S 100% MIDDELE EAST ARAB ORIGIN, BLESS THEM. 5. FALAFEL IS AWESOME ! 6. Can't understand you millennials! what is your issue with the proper 20 inch barrle and rifle gas length AR, have you ever tried one ? 7.Or 16 inch/mid length... Be blessed, k.i.s.s you all !
@Kultur Terror 1. The Iranians never forget flight 655... google it, educate yourself... 2. The Mossad is in 2021 and for sure in 2000 era is /was : technologicaly/resources under capable and never have / had enough tier 1 covert action manpwoer operators "in field" to conduct such a conspiracy as claimed. NOTHING BUT A DELUSIONAL FICTIONAL LEGEND favored by jews / israeli haters ;) 3. True that the relationship between USA and ISRAEL are perverted, bizzar, sado/ maso type 24/7 ;) Part of that is because we some time have contradicting interests as different independence nations. So my "biggest and #1 in the world American" - learn to suck it with self respect and less bitchin' like we here in Zion do ;) Part of it come from bad, unprofessional, ignorant, and fucken shitty karma among Generations of both ISRAELI AND US Politicians, diplomats, Leaders, public officials, CIA / MOSSAD endless high school teenage food fight battles, and some of it because WE - THE COMMON Peoples don't communicate and learn each other directly without the poisoned pool of published BS ;). 4. We are friends and allies on so many levels and cross the cultural and historical spectrum, learn to accept it, therapy for your hate and ignorance syndrome will come along with it ;). Be blessed, USA is the light house for all of the free on our planet, thank you !
Hey, I'm one of those foreign volunteers you spoke of. I joined in 08 and Lebanon was always used as a cautionary tale. Some units were adopting the tavor while I was in and mine adopted it soon after I got out. Just so you know we pronounce it taav-or with emphasis on the "or." Mitznefet is mitz-nef-et with emphasis on "mitz."
The rear weight is only uncomfortable until you get used to it. If you're accustomed to the relatively nose-heavy weight distribution of an M16 or M4, you're going to smack yourself in the jaw a few times while getting a sight picture, because the weight is the opposite of where you're expecting it to be. But once you re-learn with the new rifle, it's an improvement.
I fired the L1A1 for 10 years before I swapped to the L85A1 & subsequently the A2 which I used for another 11 years. I liked the balance of the L1A1, it felt lighter than it actually was. The L85A1 felt rather chunky and a little awkward, but I got used to it. I shot better with the L85A2.
There are only two inherent drawbacks for bullpups: switching shoulders and trigger. There are a lot more benefits. For example, having the working bits closer to body makes everything more comfortable, effecient and faster P.s. forgot to mention disadvantage in long distance shooting due to weight balance being closer to body: yes, same thing which gives advantage at cqc gives disadvantage at long ranges...
I prefer the G3A3 7.62mm for better damaged and ranges than TAR-21 and I guess M-16 is better than TAR-21 is longer ranges and more damage than TAR-21 at close range combat , I also prefer M-82A1 50CAL with a 10×scope sniper rifle lot better damaged and longer ranges than anything close range combat , yes it is quite heavy to shoot around close range combat .
@@csjrogerson2377 Yes the L85A2 is heavy than lightweight L1A1 , what about AUG 5.56 mm it does the same thing . I prefer G3A3 7.62mm better damaged and longer ranges , wait does L1A1 looks like and work like TAR-21 ?
As someone who qualified with the M16 platform, owns several AR15s and also owns a Tavor, I will tell you that there are numerous advantages to the shorter rifle. It makes CQB, stacking up on rooms in tight corridors multiple times easier. Doing so with a full length M16A4 is a major PITA. The Tavor allows speedy mag changes, unlike other bullpups. Although I don't know why the OP stated that the bolt hold open feature on the Tavor is new, as all M4s have that ability. The Tavor's replacement of the M4 by Israel is not new. It's been in service for over 10 years now. All in all, the Tavor is a rugged, bombproof dependable rifle that balances well, is fantastic for CQB or MOUT operations. The Tavor is heavier though. For longer range shooting, over 500 meters, I prefer the M4 pattern of rifle, although it's more than possible to reach out to those distances with the Tavor. The ergonomics of shooting from the prone are just "different" with the Tavor and take some getting used to. It's now being used by several nations throughout the world.
Look at the InrangeTV mud test of the X95. Two transfer bars to gum up instead of just the one on the SAR-21. But I am still a fan of the X95 because SAR's got cheap(er) after the new gun got released. Sold my hard-run SAR for nearly what I paid for a like new, low mileage one.
The benefit with bullpup is you can keep a decent barrel length. I used the steyer Aug for years and loved it. The gas debris can be mitigated with the right use of powder. I never had a problem with it.
We dropped the Steyr in favour of the LMT CQB16 which we called the MARS-L here in NZ, whilst the Aussies stuck with the configuration on their new Steyr. I spent a fair bit of time shooting both and though I liked the MARS-L for the ACOG coming as standard on it (man LMT does mean package deals), I still preferred the Steyr in virtually every other case because of the balanced bullpup configuration. It was easy to control, balanced over the master hand so it made monkey crawling in the assault, and moving on uneven ground easy and somewhat safer with the alice pack on - I could easily move bushes and tree branches out of the way slowly and in a controlled way to avoid snapping back and signposting whilst still keeping the weapon firm in my master hand, with the barrel following my facing in close country situations. Yeah the reload ergos are a bit funky on a bullpup at first, but you get used to it and find our your own little optimisations with time and use. We were never gucci enough where the second-to-second speed of a reload was really a factor in anything - only how full the mag was before shooting, and even then, there should at least be two of you alternating reloads intuitively to keep fire up after the first blat 99% of the time. I reckon that kind of thinking is what informs the decision to go for bullpups when the brass make these acquisition decisions - every other upside (short length, full barrel, good in LAV's and other vehicles etc.) overall outweighs some relatively minor negatives on the firing and reload ergonomics as I experienced them, and that's probably a big factor in why the Israelis went that way. That being said, the old Steyrs we had can get fucked with those obnoxious and near continuous stoppages, though I tend to think those ancient mags and maybe the brand of ammo we had were the main issue there.
"Disposable magazines" are a plague that comes back to affect weapons manufacturing every few years or decades. As soon as you throw the word disposable into something it automatically throws out any seriousness about it being a necessity for function. This leads to new designs for these disposables always trying to convince governments that they have made a magazine that is so cheap you don't have to worry about the marines chewing on them. Then even if it was actually a good idea in practice, it gets sold to the lowest bidder because government and they develop it EVEN cheaper because government. Suddenly you have an outstanding design that guess what, fails to feed when you need it. I can think of examples of this happening to weapons from the Lee Enfield to the M14 to the M16. Its just a vicious cycle and the easiest victim is the magazine.
Maybe u need to know that the IDF never switched the m4 completely (high tier units+ some regular units never left the m4) + today 18/8/2022 the IDF is geting rid of all X95/TAR-21 from all active service units and switching back to the m4. Happy to help :)
It was never that good anyway a lot of them just break like literally brake in half (the polymer body was not too strong) Anyway i was an idf soldier and i have been issued m4 (in that time the X95 was still issued im talking 2018) The change back to m4 is in the resents months of the tear 2022
Here in the Philippines, the Tavor and the X95 was mainly used for urban tight corners usually the slums where some of the cops and the anti drug enforcement units were issued by these
Didn't know the Philippines purchased TARs. In the camps here, they still stick to the M16s and even the occasional M15A1s. Hope to see more TARs come in though. They look comfy to handle at least.
@@ukbasedhomeland Yep, I never had an issue with it - from A2 onwards. It could have been better in some areas, but ultimately it’s an accurate, reliable rifle.
@@Yama_Apri_521 To be fair I must have fired thousands of rounds with an A1 and never had too many issues with it either, certainly no more than with it's predecessor the L1A1 SLR. Sure there were improvements needed but that's the same with any new weapon system... and those improvements did come with time and the L85 has matured very well. Oh and yes agreed that the L85 has always held open on an empty magazine... allowing for quick recharge. Has been that way since the A1
I think the Tavor is in many aspects a great rifle for its purpose. In my unit, we used the SIG 550, which was almost 40 inches long. For a unit that was supposed to infiltrate enemy territory and take out facilities, I always felt it was a horrible choice. We could not manoeuvre with this thing, which felt like holding a broomstick in a staircase.
"I hope this doesn't awaken something in me" is a sentence that has haunted me everyday for the past year until I watched all the way back through your catalog to find it again
"the answer is of course pizza" *shows Hawaiian pizza* I see the trolling and our primary source of task and purpose entertainment is still on point :D
I personally have the IWI tavor among many other rifles like the bushmaster ACR and the MK18 Daniel defense and IWI tavor is by far my favorite and I honestly didn’t like bull pups but the Tavor made that great of a performance! Love the gun!
Crash course on how to pronounce Hebrew/israeli words. If it has 2 syllables, the emphasis is almost always on the last syllable. ta-VOR, sha-LOME (hello or peace), slee-CHAH (excuse me), etc. If it has 3 syllables, the emphasis is almost always on the second to last syllable. mer-KA-vah (chariot or tank), mitz-NE-fet (helmet cover, chef hat). Hope this helps. (I'm a Jew who lived in Israel)
@@nirfz no you're actually right they did lose but they fought to the last man for their independence. They died rather than be subjects of the Mexican government.
Someone should make an F-88 conversion kit for the AUG. (Just the external improvements the Aussies made to a the AUG platform, using your AUG's guts).
The thing ia that the tar-21 isn't used anymore in the idf, this days the some infantry units use the m4 (paratroopers, Kfir) and the others use the tavor x-95 ( Givaty, Nahal and Golani)...
3:58 "In the 6 day war, they were way outgunned by 5 different countries." Germany fighting against Britain, France, Italy, Russia and the USA at two different occasions: "First time?"
I have only fired the G3A3, HK11 and the FN FALO, while serving as a conscript in the Greek Army. The training was not intensive, so I cannot say that I am a good shooter. However, I once held the Tavor in my hand during a military exposition (is that the right expression?). Well, let me tell you guys. Bullpup feels like a natural part of the body. While conventional rifles are like a broomstick with a backet full of water attached to the front. The only reason I can think of why many people prefer conventional rifles, is because they fired thousands of rounds with them so naturally something different will feel awkward. To me they are like the people who have learned to hold a pen the wrong way from childhood, but still can write.
The M1 Garand was cool, until you have to reload it and deal with the clip mechanism. The M14 was cool, because it had an easy reload mechanism/clips. The M16 was awesome until it jammed. The M4 takes care of the rate of fire. The TAR21 is great for urban combat, bullpups can smoke a thumb if you aren’t careful.
After 6 years of using a bullpup rifle (Steyr AUG in the Austrian Army) i can say that reloading is pretty easy once you are used to it, even in prone Position.
@@bigjohn697791 if it takes this long to get used to its not good design. if you do brain surgery for 20 years you will probably get the hang of it eventually.
@@HoaxManTheOne Our training is 16 weeks or it was when i did mine in 1999 Phase 1 what the yanks call boot camp week 6 is weapon handling test. you can't believe it takes that long to master a rifle lol... hahaha
They look kinda silly but they work as advertised to break up the silhouette of a head. I want one of their mesh combat coveralls of the same material.
It's not such a new trend. Austria has been using the Steyer AUG bullpup since 1977 (that's why it's called Stg77, or Sisi) It's compact, it's light, very ergonomic and pretty accurate even in the hand of conscripts with little experience (like me)
10:51 actually the tavor series of guns are designed so all of the controls can be switched from side to side depending on the shooter if he is left or right handed and that includes the ejection port
Not exactly. Falafel is so ancient it predate classical Arab civilization. Falafel, or something similar to falafel, is first attested in the diets of Christian monks in Roman-era Egypt, while hummus in the form we know it today is first recorded in the 13th century, also in Egypt, however that doesn't necessarily mean nobody cooked chickpeas that way before or elsewhere.
I served with the 82nd airborne as an infantry paratrooper, my M4 is like another appendage to me, that being said I bought a civilian X95, and absolutely love it, as a mounted troop the bullpup would have been much better to move around, it sits nice and gives a great sight picture.
1:11 - You're pretty behind on the development of this rifle. For one, the new Tavor series has the magazine release by the trigger, just like an AR. Apparently, they thought that configuration was superior. This was because that unlike other bullpup engineers, the IWI guys took the time to get it right, rather than rush an inferior mechanism into manufacture. By the time the TAR/SAR-21s had hit the American marketplace-- way back in 2013 (I remember, because I waited months to get one!)-- Israel had already phased them out, and was issuing the new generation. It's also _assembled_ in Israel. All the parts are made in America. 10:51 - The gas release issue you're referring to has long ago been fixed. Even on the old models, this was easily solved by after market parts-- a metal cover, swapped for the original plastic one. Unsurprisingly, you didn't even mention the drop-in trigger pack, or the one-step field stripping. Maybe you guys should actually handle one of these before you make a video about it. The whole idea is to have an AR configuration, with AK dependability, in a bullpup. Not only did they pull it off, but they're constantly improving. Oh, and _guns_ are on tank turrets and battleships. That there is a _rifle..._ a carbine, a weapon, a firearm, a f---in' _boomstick!_
There were a myriad of issues with the L85A1. Most have been addressed with the A2 and 3... But all variants hold open on an empty magazine. Loving your channel here in England... The weather is lousy... Keep up the good work!
"all variants hold open on an empty magazine" For those who don't know: Look on the left side of the rifle, halfway along the cheekpiece. You'll see a square plastic knob. That is the bolt release catch. If the bolt doesn't hold open on an empty mag, why is the release catch there? The magazine catch reference - On the 21, it looks like you grab the mag, then use your forefinger to squeeze the catch, releasing the mag. On the L85 it is the exact same movement except you use your thumb. I don't get it - Almost every single video I watch depicting the L85 is patent make-believe. I guess the reason is that, in general, Britsh people with experience on the L85 don't have access to other firearms and so tend not to make youtube videos about them, whilst US citizens can't acquire L85 platforms to actually shoot and fairly review.
I have used the SA80a1 and a2, the SLR FN FAL and have got to play with M4. I much prefer the SA80. And it does hold open on an empty magazine. You obviously have never held one if you don't know that
@@digitalradiohacker when you put in a new mag, you use it to send the working parts forward, its also used when operating for drills including functions check
Love your videos! Cool to see a video about my army :D Just wanted to point out that we still use the M4 and the M16 as a primary gun, it depends on the unit and the brigade. For example I, a paratrooper fighter, am using a M4 but fighters from Golani brigade are using Tavor.. Anyways, good content, love from Israel!
Funny you should mention that, I think 890 were the first brigade to test the old Tar-21 and they decided to pass. Then Givaa'ti Tzabar took their "haktzaa" and became the first to actually deploy it around 2002-2003 if I remember correctly. The 21 was a good gun but wasn't as reliable back then, they had failure to eject issues when the gun heated up a bit. I hear this isn't an issue with newer units.
Ive served in the idf, served 1.5 years with the m4 and then switch to the tavor. Hardest thing about the change was not having the non trigger hand not extended. Took a while to get used too, i like the m4 but urban and cqb scenarios the tavor take the fight hands down
I served in Handasa Kravit from 04 - 07. I was issued an M16A1 and then a few months later, the M4 Carbine. The M4 is obviously a great rifle, but I always felt like I was missing out on the Tavor.
@shroey20 i loved the fact that it is a short weapon system. For being a bullpup rifle, it's great for cqb. Most of the weight is at the back of the gun, making it easier to hold at high ready stance for longer
@@shroey20Banned since when? I've seen them on the shelf for civilian purchase the last time I was at the FFL in San Jose, CA. It literally caught my eye and I had to say something to the clerk behind the counter. I asked the price and everything. Didn't seem out of reach but, it wasn't what I was looking for at the time. I think you should keep looking. A lot of people behind the counter sometimes just don't know what they are talking about about the guns they sell. Or the laws that regulate them outside of keeping the business doors open. You may even luck out with a private p2p sale. Don't give up on your dream. If I want a shorter AR rifle for urban cqb I will just put one together based on the need.
I love both my SAR and X95. It is objectively a fantastic weapon family. The AR family makes more sense for us civilians here though since it can easily be adapted to any use and parts are plentiful and cheap.
I have a FB friend from Canada who was a "lone soldier" in the IDF. He was one of the first members of the Tavor Owners' Group. The IDF call those covers "clown hats" It works as advertised but I guess it looks too silly for everyone else.
@@Crustymarine Sun shade is kinda secondary since we do most of our moving & fighting at night, wherever possible. Israelis are so macho that not even skin cancer bothers them. And they smoke cigarettes incessantly but here too, lung cancer isn't a big problem in Israel.
The l85a2 and the la85a3 both lock the bolt open when out of ammo in the mag and have a bolt release on the left side of the body just over the magazine well
great video! for years now the idf mainly uses the "mtar21"- the micro tavor21, and not the old version of the longer tavor. I've used it in my service and I can say that in my experience i'd rather have the micro tavor over the m4 any day (shot hundreds of rounds in the m4 as well, and had one for about 10 months). ask me anything u want, ill try to answer.
Other the slight rocking sideways movement of trigger mechanism housing (TMH) between the Upper of bolt carrier assembly and barrel of the UK SA80A2, I thought quirky. I didn't have anything negative about it.
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btw the l85 definitely locks to the rear on the last round
4% of the IDF is made of foreign volunteers
I'm gonna learn Hebrew now
Israel is a ethnostate that commits an active genocide against palestine, why are you supporting the IDF?
@@BigRussianCatWithFloppyEars they should have agreed to the 1948 deal to have the two be separate
i think it would have all worked out much better if that happened
Palestinian people get to have their own nation
Israelis get to live in their home land
if the deal was accepted this supposed "genocide" wouldn't happen
@@germanwarrabbit Home Land? The Land was given by the Brits who did not belong there aswell!
the idf's never give up philosophy comes from the idea that the first war we ever lose would be our last one fought
You think the USA would let them lose a war? You must be a fantasist
you just haven't had your first vietnam or iraq yet
Yea, Israel can't afford to lose even a single war
@@nothingIsPersonal Against 3rd world countries with barely any firepower😂
@@yousufkhamis5135 Palestinian nationality was only invented in the 20th century.
“Then I’ll just stick to *less controversial* issues like war.”
-Cappy 2021
Man that was so real it hurt
Kevin from sunny Mexico loves your shows . I am a retired Merchant Marine living very close to the Mexican , California border. Thank you.
@@kevinmccarthy8746 yo what
You are INCORRECT in the statement "Every male and female must complete a mandatory term of service." This is untrue, Orthodox Jews are EXEMPT. Orthodox Jews are 19% of the Israel. Arab and Christian "citizens " of Israel are often denied entry into the IDF. Also, anyone who demands exemption is usually given it. Try to talk about what you know. Stay in your lane.
@@justiceforall4969 uh. What?
Watch me try to walk through the mine field of talking about the Israel Defense Forces without getting canceled! #cancelcappy
What do you all think of the TAR-21 is it a good move by Israel to switch away from their old M4s?
You came very close with that minefield, but you lucked out!
bullpups are yucky, 14.5 inches of barrel is enough to kill anyone
m4 any day
@@Alex-rm4wk bullpups have a longer barrel and can be shorter than a m4
@@seansoraghan3245 bulpups are like a cancer to the gun world. Every country that picks one as their main infantry rifle eventually comes to regret it.
This video reminds me of a time The Chieftain was talking about the Merkava and how he asked an Israeli tanker if he thought it was the best tank in the world. Apparently, the Israeli tanker said something along the lines of "We don't think it's the best tank in the world, we think its the best tank for Israel."
Fun fact: the Tavor’s shape and aesthetics were designed first then the working parts were made to fit that shape.
that explains why it's so ugly.
Citation needed* Source or GTFO.
@@ishitrealbad3039 I think it looks badass 🤷♂️
@@ishitrealbad3039 You just have terrible taste.
@@EliteBadFrog It does look badass, homeboy has probably never handled a rifle in his entire life, so he has no idea what a Bullpup even is.
As a native Texan, the day a company produces a unique, reliable and modular fighting rifle called "The Alamo Rifle" they can stfu and take my money
Is that all it takes lol
Already Did it, Just need to actually build the thing...
I’m in SA also. My Dad was 101st. Been shooting my whole life. My Frd used to say, “If you’re ever running from Ben shooting at You, run to the Left! Bec He pulls a little to the right! Ha. It’s your only chance, cause He WILL get You!” Bec of the weight being at the back, most all movement is simply faster. And behind knowledge, speed to action, is life or death.
damn Bushwacker I laughed so much from your comment i was worried that i was going to choke to death
And they will remember the Alamo indeed.
Your pronunciation never fails to deliver.
Lol, it is hilarious, especially when you speak hebrew.
I prefer it this way
It even sounds bad when you don’t know ANY HEBREW
Never in my life have I heard someone butcher the pronunciation so bad.
Yeah, said it the same way I did when spying it at a used gun shop.
The man presenting this channel is one of the most charismatic in the military topic, it's very pleasent to watch, and the information is presented in a way that results informative, accurate and chill. Thankyou!!
Israeli here: this was quit a laugh, not really used to see how we're viewed by others. Though there were some bits not so accurate or outdated, You've been kind and professional to stay on point without politics. good on you mate!
sup
Hey mate, I would love to hear your thoughts about TAR family of weapons system.
Bet you can’t wait to empty a magazine into some Palestinian homes.
@@captaron Bet you didn't miss the opportunity to write just because he's Israeli
They did do 9/11
I loved mine when I was in the Colombian Military. Very compact and still packed a punch when we returned fire. Very easy transition from Galil ACE and M4.
Los están usando las unidades senafront en la frontera Panamá-Colombia. Cañón corto y el estándar , incluso los calibres adaptados creo a 9mm para unidades motorizadas.
I was a bit surprised of seeing colombian soldiers with our weapons on my last trip to Bogota :)) most had the Galil tho
@@Earthelement87 Why? They are battlefield tested and have a great design for CQB and they are easy to learn.
The galil is such an awesome weapon!!! Old now but hey! Awesome anyways!
How was your expirince of the galil ? Am quirius
i was a foreign soldier( lone soldier) in the idf, was issued a first gen tar21 for preamtive training (2 weeks) before switching to the second gen x95 for about a year during training then the 3rd gen x95 for another 2 years. amazing gun to shoot, within weeks i was able to get a zeroing at 25 meter with a grouping of a cm (and that was the first rifle i shot!) incredibly easy to learn this weapon and great for me cause im a lefty.
אני יודע שזה לא קשור אבל ואו כל הכבוד על זה שבאת לשרת פה כחייל בודד!
אני לא מכיר אותך אבל אתה בן אדם מדהים
I had an X95 but preferred the M4. I owned an AR-15 and I was so familiar with it that I hated the Tavor
I had an X95 but preferred the M4. I owned an AR-15 and I was so familiar with it that I hated the Tavor
I own the civilian version of the X95. As a Marine in the’70s I shot the M16. At the time I absolutely loved the m16. I also like the ar platform. But I have to say that the Tavor just feels ergonomically perfect for me. The weapon just seems to hit your shoulder on target, and falls back on target with no effort at all. And at 26”, it’s the first weapon I would grab for if (May God forbid) I needed to protect my loved ones or myself. I read an interesting quote but can’t remember who said it, it something like this “use your pistol to fight your way to your rifle”. Better yet just keep your weapon of choice close by.
@@johnakajon3563 I love the M16 but it sucks ass in CQB. That I can say.
Thank you for sticking to weapons and not going into politics!!
Also - Not all of the Israeli infantry units use the Tavor, our paratroopers still use the M4.
Yes, the Tavor is used in a number of infantry units but by large most units use the M4 if not the M16
But they're a special bunch of bastards with actual rooms with lockers and aircon. Pampered and spoiled.
The real men serve in Givati. 424 kavod!
I have hold a X95 and fired some rounds .. the build quality is so good !
@@Frankenllama The real men serve in 51 !
@@wallingnaga6563 Gotta love the very little to no recoil as well!
As a prior US soldier and contractor, I love the Tavor. The ability to pack an M16 barrel in something shorter or same length as the M4 is pretty great.
Like any weapon, there is a learning curve, especially coming from M4/AK platforms. No C Clamp sent me for a loop, as did reloads. However, after practicing for a whole I found the Tavor to be just as easy to handle.
The weight distribution for me is a real plus. Having your mass located in the rear does make the weapon easier to rotate up and easier to hold in position. It does take some getting used to, but once again that goes for any new weapon you pick up. Overall, very nice rifle.
The only possible way of making the thumbnail better is if chris had those gleaming anime eyes lol.
dont give me ideas I'm about to add them lol
You’ve doomed us all
This is how humanity crumbles
@@ROOSTER333 come on people, everyone needs a bit of anime eyes chris in their lives. Not the hero we deserved but the hero we needed lol
@@CrusadingWalrus06 This guy gets it - Upgrades people, upgrades!
They dropped the TAR-21 in favor of the X95 (MTAR-21) starting about a decade ago. There's still quite a few units that still use M4s, especially special forces units, but they mostly just use the MTAR now.
They are however updating it to have a longer barrel
Special forces don't use the M4, only the Paratroopers and another brigade uses them for reasons of ego.
Special forces use the AK family sometimes though...
@@yairweinberg1647 "Reasons of ego"
What!?
Also is quite ironic to use the weapons of your enemies
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 its on purposes, the gunfire sounds like friendlies and its harder to identify who did the attack
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 Well the Russians aren't really our enemies and they are useful weapons for certain missions.
Yes, Ego. They claim it's weight and so on but no. Anyone who serves know the paratroopers must always be special, hence they have special uniforms and still use the M4.
I used it when I was in the Colombian army, it looks weird but feels really good when handling
Very good rifle for combat. I used it in multiple combat operations aswell as Galil ACE.
That thing looks sweet
How hard was it to breakdown and clean, comparable to the M4?
Not without isues. Remember guys safelock broke and hes like "look at this plastic, what is that?!" .
Also, i was a sharpshooter(brigade champion) . M4, green iron ammo, x4 aim ... when i got practice with "short tavor", standart 300 meter , its where much worser in terms of acuracy . Maybe cuz its has shorter barell, maybe my lack of exp with Tavor...
@@CDs_UA-cam_ Push out one pin, swing open the but plate, remove the bolt carrier. Even changing a barrel out is super easy.
IWI Tavor TAR-21 is a standard issue rifle for the Para-SF of Indian Armed Forces. There must be a good reason if a special forces unit like this rifle, as they operate in almost every possible terrain and believe me we have almost all the possible terrains in India.
Then why does the rest of Special Forces around the world still use an AR-15 Style rifle for the most part
And even the best Israeli Special Forces still use in AR-15 pattern rifle
@@Cameron_X_Davis there is no special forces unit anywhere in the world that only uses 1 platform all the time per operator.
The TAR-21 (aka SAR) was the original Tavor and was adopted by the IDF in 2003 although primarily for Special Forces. The latest version is the Tavor X95 (aka MTAR-21) and has been in use since 2009 again initially with Special Forces but is now the standard issue for all infantry units and has been since 2012.
yes I wanted to cover their switch in the mid 2000s from what I heard around 2009 is when it was adopted although it was created earlier than that. I wanted to focus on that switch to the TAR from the M16
@@Taskandpurpose Isn’t it pronounced, Tav-OR? Always thought so & always hear it as such... but maybe we’ve all been doing it wrong haha
SAR? isn´t that one from Singapore? the one that was designed a year after the Tavor?
Google works wonders huh
except the special forces actually still use the M4
it's always good to listen to the troops on the grounds
Aah, this TAR-21 is my crush. This Rifle is used in all SF units in India 🇮🇳
much love from israel !! we love india and hindu more than we love ourselves ! lol
@@Winalot always
Do they have toilets though?
@@noWatimsayin1 where
@@rudraprasad_2255 Indian special toilet forces
You are a genius! I just googled "why do they wear that funny hat" I got the answer, then you gave it a second time. Well done!
We also had to cut them out and sew in the elastic ourselves. Any helmet modifications you see on IDF helms are custom made by that soldier....
Or your buddy that knows how to sew.
I have a Tavor SAR with Meprolight M21 red dot and FAB Defense bipod, the trigger is rubbish but taking it to gun range is super cool, like driving a Ferrari into a domestic car meet even though the rifle wasn’t that Gucci.
You’ll get lots of attention. People at the range are always like:
Wow, what is it?
Damn, that thing looks like Alien’s gun!!
Can I take a picture with that?
Is it a Tavor?? I’ve never seen 1 in person.
Have you over shot aug?
I believe IWI should start transfer the improvements from Tavor7 to X95, making a 'gen2' version. Also might want to lightning the Tavor7 a bit.
@@JohnZ556 In the new Carmel rifle IWI added a lever to quickly change the barrel. Would be cool if they added that also.
@@bob-wo3ir lol that would be sweet, might as well get a MDRX for the moment.
Got the x95 and love it
As a Tavor fan I have been waiting for this day! (Also good to see some people trying to improve the Bullpup design instead of dismissing it out of hand because of it's teething problems)
I have been rocking the SAR-21 since spring of 2013. I was one of the earliest members of the Tavor Owners' Group and a lot of folks get that rifle and have to relearn their shooting techniques. The less experienced shooter has less to unlearn that the more experienced shooter.
@@dbmail545 Case in point: I joined the US Army in 1970; qualified with the M-16A1, then never shot an AR -style rifle again until I qualified with an M4 for a deployment in 2006. For me, who is a left-hander with no particular experience with the AR-style rifle, the advantages of the bullpup rifle outweigh the popularity of the US infantryman's favorite longarm.
israeli here
really happy you made this video
love your channel
Just found this channel and love it. Not only is it highly informative but has some really humorous moments in it. I think the talented young man doing the narration is excellent it his delivery and possibly the best best on all of YT. Two thumbs up 👍👍
I hope “Grand Master J” from the “NFAC” is watching this. He’s a little confused on what a bull pup is... 😂
😂😂😂
He will be very good about explaining the part about the weapon being empty when the bolt locks back.
@@jaye1967 "The bolt goes forward...the weapon has fired"
"this bitch it kicks that's why i call it a bullpup"
I wouldn't trust him with a knife they give you when you get take out
Dude, you're hilarious! Former IDF soldier here. I had the tavor. It's great.
To be fair everyone thinks their original gun is great at least most of the time we shall not speak of the OG M16
@@spartanx9293 the tavor is not perfect, and when I served, I had an early version of it that had some issues. But the newer versions are really incredible, I must say. And I've used the M-16 and AK-47, which I'm not belittling, they're also very good and reliable, but the tavor is really awsome. Reliability, comfort, (especially while wearing body armour due to it's short stock) simplicity to strip down, range, accuracy, etc. Are all serious pluses. At least in my opinion.
@@ruihenig I heard they were awful and that they were overweight in the back it was from tfb TV I'll link it to you if you want to see
@@spartanx9293 maybe the earliest version. The current one is called the micro tavor and it feels so nicely balanced. Anyway, think whatever you like. This is my opinion from personal experience. Cheers!
@@ruihenigI just don't like it aesthetically yes I know aesthetics have no basis on actual performance yes I know that a good working gun is better than a pretty one yada yada yada yada I find it ugly it's the same with a lot of Israeli weapons I also hate the desert eagle and Uzi I just do not like their look
The British L85 does lock open when you have an empty mag, I have no idea who told you it doesn’t
Probably the early models didn't, pretty sure the L85 saw a lot of changes since it was introduced.
Yeah it's based on the AR18, which locks back
Also the placement of the release catch is good as it naturally where the hand falls to take a mag off, guessing the Israeli’s just leave mags on the floor
@@kdrapertrucker You are right. The layer models adopted this.
@@michaeloldx1 Yes, we do leave it. Absolute focus on the fight. But we also have shiftsur specific for saving those, too.
Great analysis, ground forces are the backbone of the victory. The same occurred during the Falkland war where Argentina's air force was hitting hard the UK forces, but despite that ground forces composed of the army and marine components were advancing constantly against a weak land force, making the route for a fast winning.
Yep, just like the Arabs, the Argies were no match for a well trained army.
Love your channel Freddie Mercury.
Proud Tavor owner here!
My neighbor owns one and Ive shot it. Absolutely phenomenal gun.
We are Tavor brothers, homie
@@gritsandgravy2633 I'm the new kid with an X95 do I belong? 😜
@@MyWatchIsEnded Heck yeah brother! All X95 owners are welcome in the home of the Tavor!
The l85 does have an automatic bolt hold open and a catch to release it, it doesn't take hours to reload like people think
But it's bri'ish so I hate it anyway
jkjk
Yup. It relies on a magazine being in place, not sure if that’s different to the Tavor
@@nizzlenotes3892 Conceptually British but had literally every single component of it retroactively redesigned by the Germans
@Task & Purpose I Carried the L85 and and L85A2 on operations for 18 1/2 years, I can assure you it has last round hold open and the bolt release is just above your thumb as you replace the magazine.
Shalom from Israel,
1. That happened / took place around 2003- 2010ish.
2. Most SF/CT/ TIER 2- 1 keep in use the M4 and Frankenstein type SBR from collectible/rebuild / part kits and so on.
3. What the IDF is using is X95. TAR 21 was the first gen (2003-+).
4. There is absolutely no question or discussion about the origin of the FALAFEL :
IT IS NOT ISRAELI ORIGINAL , IT'S 100% MIDDELE EAST ARAB ORIGIN, BLESS THEM.
5. FALAFEL IS AWESOME !
6. Can't understand you millennials! what is your issue with the proper 20 inch barrle and rifle gas length AR, have you ever tried one ?
7.Or 16 inch/mid length...
Be blessed, k.i.s.s you all !
I cleared a buttload of high rises in Panama with a 20” m16 . It can be done ..easily .
@Kultur Terror
1. The Iranians never forget flight 655... google it, educate yourself...
2. The Mossad is in 2021 and for sure in 2000 era is /was : technologicaly/resources under capable and never have / had enough tier 1 covert action manpwoer operators "in field" to conduct such a conspiracy as claimed.
NOTHING BUT A DELUSIONAL FICTIONAL LEGEND favored by jews / israeli haters ;)
3. True that the relationship between USA and ISRAEL are perverted, bizzar, sado/ maso type 24/7 ;)
Part of that is because we some time have contradicting interests as different independence nations. So my "biggest and #1 in the world American" - learn to suck it with self respect and less bitchin' like we here in Zion do ;)
Part of it come from bad, unprofessional, ignorant, and fucken shitty karma among Generations of both ISRAELI AND US Politicians, diplomats, Leaders, public officials, CIA / MOSSAD endless high school teenage food fight battles, and some of it because WE - THE COMMON Peoples don't communicate and learn each other directly without the poisoned pool of published BS ;).
4. We are friends and allies on so many levels and cross the cultural and historical spectrum, learn to accept it, therapy for your hate and ignorance syndrome will come along with it ;).
Be blessed, USA is the light house for all of the free on our planet, thank you !
@@NCrdwlf Thank you for the comment ! Be blessed :)
Hey, I'm one of those foreign volunteers you spoke of. I joined in 08 and Lebanon was always used as a cautionary tale. Some units were adopting the tavor while I was in and mine adopted it soon after I got out. Just so you know we pronounce it taav-or with emphasis on the "or." Mitznefet is mitz-nef-et with emphasis on "mitz."
Well God bless you for your service to Israel. Also what’s your thoughts on the new Carmel rifle?
Shocked there was no open rebellion against the Mitz
The rear weight is only uncomfortable until you get used to it. If you're accustomed to the relatively nose-heavy weight distribution of an M16 or M4, you're going to smack yourself in the jaw a few times while getting a sight picture, because the weight is the opposite of where you're expecting it to be. But once you re-learn with the new rifle, it's an improvement.
I fired the L1A1 for 10 years before I swapped to the L85A1 & subsequently the A2 which I used for another 11 years. I liked the balance of the L1A1, it felt lighter than it actually was. The L85A1 felt rather chunky and a little awkward, but I got used to it. I shot better with the L85A2.
There are only two inherent drawbacks for bullpups: switching shoulders and trigger. There are a lot more benefits. For example, having the working bits closer to body makes everything more comfortable, effecient and faster
P.s. forgot to mention disadvantage in long distance shooting due to weight balance being closer to body: yes, same thing which gives advantage at cqc gives disadvantage at long ranges...
I prefer the G3A3 7.62mm for better damaged and ranges than TAR-21 and I guess M-16 is better than TAR-21 is longer ranges and more damage than TAR-21 at close range combat , I also prefer M-82A1 50CAL with a 10×scope sniper rifle lot better damaged and longer ranges than anything close range combat , yes it is quite heavy to shoot around close range combat .
@@csjrogerson2377 Yes the L85A2 is heavy than lightweight L1A1 , what about AUG 5.56 mm it does the same thing . I prefer G3A3 7.62mm better damaged and longer ranges , wait does L1A1 looks like and work like TAR-21 ?
@@richardscaggs5936 how does m16 make more damage than tar?
Your podcast is a fresh breeze of air. Will stick to this channel until further notice. Thanx also for keeping a smile on my dile.
As someone who qualified with the M16 platform, owns several AR15s and also owns a Tavor, I will tell you that there are numerous advantages to the shorter rifle. It makes CQB, stacking up on rooms in tight corridors multiple times easier. Doing so with a full length M16A4 is a major PITA. The Tavor allows speedy mag changes, unlike other bullpups. Although I don't know why the OP stated that the bolt hold open feature on the Tavor is new, as all M4s have that ability. The Tavor's replacement of the M4 by Israel is not new. It's been in service for over 10 years now. All in all, the Tavor is a rugged, bombproof dependable rifle that balances well, is fantastic for CQB or MOUT operations. The Tavor is heavier though. For longer range shooting, over 500 meters, I prefer the M4 pattern of rifle, although it's more than possible to reach out to those distances with the Tavor. The ergonomics of shooting from the prone are just "different" with the Tavor and take some getting used to. It's now being used by several nations throughout the world.
'The Alamo Gun." That one cracked me up, then the lady's funny reaction after trying it was fun/heartwarming! Thank you for your service!
1:12 On the X95, the magazine release was moved to a more AR-15-like position. This is in fact visible on screen a couple of seconds later.
Yeah the TAR-21 wasnt really liked by IDF troops. They didn't like that you could tactically accidently release your magazine.
@@nemisous83 That's why the X95 gets a mag release button over that accident prone lever. Pretty much similar to the M4 mag release.
Look at the InrangeTV mud test of the X95. Two transfer bars to gum up instead of just the one on the SAR-21. But I am still a fan of the X95 because SAR's got cheap(er) after the new gun got released. Sold my hard-run SAR for nearly what I paid for a like new, low mileage one.
@@dbmail545 my Tavor 7 has an adjustable gas cylinder. If I'm dumb enough to shove gravel inside of my weapon, that adjustment should help.
The benefit with bullpup is you can keep a decent barrel length. I used the steyer Aug for years and loved it. The gas debris can be mitigated with the right use of powder. I never had a problem with it.
I've been waiting for sometime for a video about the IDF and I loved it! also the way you said Mitsnefet, not even close at all! keep it up
I've been wanting to cover them for a while, a tough topic to do without triggering anyone but I hope I walked the line alright
Down time war games, I love it. We all did it. I was lucky enough to be on a small security team that then got to go try our ideas with MILES gear.
We dropped the Steyr in favour of the LMT CQB16 which we called the MARS-L here in NZ, whilst the Aussies stuck with the configuration on their new Steyr. I spent a fair bit of time shooting both and though I liked the MARS-L for the ACOG coming as standard on it (man LMT does mean package deals), I still preferred the Steyr in virtually every other case because of the balanced bullpup configuration. It was easy to control, balanced over the master hand so it made monkey crawling in the assault, and moving on uneven ground easy and somewhat safer with the alice pack on - I could easily move bushes and tree branches out of the way slowly and in a controlled way to avoid snapping back and signposting whilst still keeping the weapon firm in my master hand, with the barrel following my facing in close country situations.
Yeah the reload ergos are a bit funky on a bullpup at first, but you get used to it and find our your own little optimisations with time and use. We were never gucci enough where the second-to-second speed of a reload was really a factor in anything - only how full the mag was before shooting, and even then, there should at least be two of you alternating reloads intuitively to keep fire up after the first blat 99% of the time. I reckon that kind of thinking is what informs the decision to go for bullpups when the brass make these acquisition decisions - every other upside (short length, full barrel, good in LAV's and other vehicles etc.) overall outweighs some relatively minor negatives on the firing and reload ergonomics as I experienced them, and that's probably a big factor in why the Israelis went that way.
That being said, the old Steyrs we had can get fucked with those obnoxious and near continuous stoppages, though I tend to think those ancient mags and maybe the brand of ammo we had were the main issue there.
"Disposable magazines" are a plague that comes back to affect weapons manufacturing every few years or decades. As soon as you throw the word disposable into something it automatically throws out any seriousness about it being a necessity for function. This leads to new designs for these disposables always trying to convince governments that they have made a magazine that is so cheap you don't have to worry about the marines chewing on them. Then even if it was actually a good idea in practice, it gets sold to the lowest bidder because government and they develop it EVEN cheaper because government. Suddenly you have an outstanding design that guess what, fails to feed when you need it. I can think of examples of this happening to weapons from the Lee Enfield to the M14 to the M16. Its just a vicious cycle and the easiest victim is the magazine.
Same thing happened to the original French bullpup, the FAMAS F1.
STG > TAR, fact, even gun pros and quick shooters agree trust me, I know a couple of things and a whole lot of bugger all. But it is true
As much as I also love the Steyr AUG, I can definitely relate to the stoppages issue with them here in Ireland. Drove me nuts.
LMT is one of the finest firearms manufacturers on the planet right now. I'd take one of their rifles over damned near anything
Maybe u need to know that the IDF never switched the m4 completely (high tier units+ some regular units never left the m4) +
today 18/8/2022 the IDF is geting rid of all X95/TAR-21 from all active service units and switching back to the m4.
Happy to help :)
It was never that good anyway a lot of them just break
like literally brake in half (the polymer body was not too strong)
Anyway i was an idf soldier and i have been issued m4 (in that time the X95 was still issued im talking 2018)
The change back to m4 is in the resents months of the tear 2022
Hardcore History is such an amazing podcast, highly recommend it
One more day. Fighting for a video on the brazilian IA2 assault rifle
Um filho teu não foge à luta 😂😂
@@angelobartolomeu5679 nem teme quem te adora a própria morte
Here in the Philippines, the Tavor and the X95 was mainly used for urban tight corners usually the slums where some of the cops and the anti drug enforcement units were issued by these
I have seen the Philippine military/police use a lot of dated weapons too though such as the M16A1.
@@KianoUyMOOP it probably depends on the unit
@@KianoUyMOOP Hell, some use the Galil ACE with grips or PMAGs
Didn't know the Philippines purchased TARs. In the camps here, they still stick to the M16s and even the occasional M15A1s. Hope to see more TARs come in though. They look comfy to handle at least.
@@KianoUyMOOP M60 as well
Help me I am addicted to your channel and stay up too late. I can’t stop because it’s so good
6:46 FUN FACT: These are Thai soldier using TAR21 and Negev in live-fire combat training
7:28 FUN FACT: There be a penis on the pillar
The British L85 working parts remain rearward on an empty mag, and this has been the case since the A1.
Was about to say this, and with an SF issued ACOG attached it's actually a good rifle dare I say it.
@@ukbasedhomeland Yep, I never had an issue with it - from A2 onwards. It could have been better in some areas, but ultimately it’s an accurate, reliable rifle.
@@Yama_Apri_521 To be fair I must have fired thousands of rounds with an A1 and never had too many issues with it either, certainly no more than with it's predecessor the L1A1 SLR. Sure there were improvements needed but that's the same with any new weapon system... and those improvements did come with time and the L85 has matured very well.
Oh and yes agreed that the L85 has always held open on an empty magazine... allowing for quick recharge. Has been that way since the A1
@@swampeh Me too, never really had an issue with the A1, nothing particularly noticible over the SLR
I think the Tavor is in many aspects a great rifle for its purpose. In my unit, we used the SIG 550, which was almost 40 inches long. For a unit that was supposed to infiltrate enemy territory and take out facilities, I always felt it was a horrible choice. We could not manoeuvre with this thing, which felt like holding a broomstick in a staircase.
What unit were you in?
@@swoop2386Probably NOYB
"I hope this doesn't awaken something in me" is a sentence that has haunted me everyday for the past year until I watched all the way back through your catalog to find it again
I love the idea of the Tavor 7. I can’t afford one yet, but a .308 bull pup is just what every American man needs. 😉🇺🇸
"the answer is of course pizza" *shows Hawaiian pizza*
I see the trolling and our primary source of task and purpose entertainment is still on point :D
I personally have the IWI tavor among many other rifles like the bushmaster ACR and the MK18 Daniel defense and IWI tavor is by far my favorite and I honestly didn’t like bull pups but the Tavor made that great of a performance! Love the gun!
Crash course on how to pronounce Hebrew/israeli words.
If it has 2 syllables, the emphasis is almost always on the last syllable.
ta-VOR, sha-LOME (hello or peace), slee-CHAH (excuse me), etc.
If it has 3 syllables, the emphasis is almost always on the second to last syllable.
mer-KA-vah (chariot or tank), mitz-NE-fet (helmet cover, chef hat).
Hope this helps.
(I'm a Jew who lived in Israel)
This rifle reminds me of a bullpup rifle I used to own, the Steyr AUG.
Oh dang shout out to Dan Carlin he is off the chart!
easily my favorite podcast of all time without a doubt the best at making things relatable
i would say the same for his common sense podcast
Damn, now I want the Next Gen Weapons to be nicknamed "The Alamo Rifle"
I would never forget it
@@evanthefish1857 never forghetti
The george floyd-6.5 creedmoore bullpup
I might be wrong here, but didn't the mexicans win a the Alamo? Wouldn't it be better to name a US rifle after something the US were successfull at?
@@nirfz no you're actually right they did lose but they fought to the last man for their independence. They died rather than be subjects of the Mexican government.
It's a great weapon, I had the pleasure of firing these a few times. Best bullpup I've fired next to the Steyr AUG
Surely do a video about the Australian Army’s F-88 / EF-88 Austeyrs
Yes..aka the Lithgow Atrax that never came to the US
Watch AUG video. The end.
Someone should make an F-88 conversion kit for the AUG. (Just the external improvements the Aussies made to a the AUG platform, using your AUG's guts).
The thing ia that the tar-21 isn't used anymore in the idf, this days the some infantry units use the m4 (paratroopers, Kfir) and the others use the tavor x-95 ( Givaty, Nahal and Golani)...
That was mentioned at the 9:30 mark.
3:58
"In the 6 day war, they were way outgunned by 5 different countries."
Germany fighting against Britain, France, Italy, Russia and the USA at two different occasions:
"First time?"
Perfect
The difference is that Israel won
@@philippeszwarcbart6507
Yeah, that's because the USA, Russia, Britain and France play in a different league than Egypt, Syria and Jordan. 😂😂
Don't forget the first french empire
They never really fought italy and france at the same time
If you own one of these a must have is the Giessle trigger pack replacement which makes the bull pup awesome.
I have only fired the G3A3, HK11 and the FN FALO, while serving as a conscript in the Greek Army. The training was not intensive, so I cannot say that I am a good shooter. However, I once held the Tavor in my hand during a military exposition (is that the right expression?).
Well, let me tell you guys. Bullpup feels like a natural part of the body. While conventional rifles are like a broomstick with a backet full of water attached to the front. The only reason I can think of why many people prefer conventional rifles, is because they fired thousands of rounds with them so naturally something different will feel awkward. To me they are like the people who have learned to hold a pen the wrong way from childhood, but still can write.
Bullpups suck that is why so many military dumped them and went back, triggers suck
@Sakpan74Gr - I believe that "military exposition" is the right expression. Thanks for sharing your real-life experience in the Greek Army with us!
Really loving all these videos so far. Interesting topics... I always thought the Tar-21 looked really badass and futuristic
The M1 Garand was cool, until you have to reload it and deal with the clip mechanism. The M14 was cool, because it had an easy reload mechanism/clips. The M16 was awesome until it jammed. The M4 takes care of the rate of fire. The TAR21 is great for urban combat, bullpups can smoke a thumb if you aren’t careful.
Plus the tar shoots gas in your face
Israel: uzi 5.56 reload it from the back
@@Eat.It.From.The.Back74 Not anymore on revised models.
If you smoke a thumb your training is very bad.
@@BBBrasil We don't have any of those revised models in Canada thanks for the info
7.62x51 with a full battle rifle length barrel is a beast of a weapon.
"so kappy tell me what you think about th confli..."
"no... no thank's..."
lol fantastic!!!😂😂🤣
After 6 years of using a bullpup rifle (Steyr AUG in the Austrian Army) i can say that reloading is pretty easy once you are used to it, even in prone Position.
14 years British Army I agree. It's just training
@@bigjohn697791 if it takes this long to get used to its not good design. if you do brain surgery for 20 years you will probably get the hang of it eventually.
@@HoaxManTheOne Our training is 16 weeks or it was when i did mine in 1999 Phase 1 what the yanks call boot camp week 6 is weapon handling test. you can't believe it takes that long to master a rifle lol... hahaha
@@bigjohn697791 No, not years unless you eat crayons but you master an M4 in your first days of use. Or anything made by H&K
@@HoaxManTheOne the A2 version of the L85 _was_ designed by H&K...
7:27 no matter what culture and where you are in the world, you cant run away from the deek drawing
task and purpose is a leftwing organization.
taskandpurpose.com/news/tucker-carlson-women-military-fox-news/
@@boobio1 You say that as if Task and Purpose is some ant hivemind, you realize that articles are written by individuals right?
More than like this video, Cappy, I LOVE it! Pleasure to have you inject so much humor into a very serious subject. 🙃
5:16
This is why I love being a gun nerd.
We can talk about stuff like this, without actually "talking about" it.
Their little hats for their helmets are awesome
They look kinda silly but they work as advertised to break up the silhouette of a head. I want one of their mesh combat coveralls of the same material.
It's not such a new trend.
Austria has been using the Steyer AUG bullpup since 1977 (that's why it's called Stg77, or Sisi)
It's compact, it's light, very ergonomic and pretty accurate even in the hand of conscripts with little experience (like me)
Confusingly it's also used by the Australian military.
Don’t mess with the IDF Arabs you will be sorry
10:51 actually the tavor series of guns are designed so all of the controls can be switched from side to side depending on the shooter if he is left or right handed and that includes the ejection port
You can swap the Tavor 7 from right to left without any extra parts in a few minutes.
It's extremely easy.
It looks just like the austeyr we use in Australia. Falafel and hummus come from the *other* side my bruh ; )
Not exactly. Falafel is so ancient it predate classical Arab civilization. Falafel, or something similar to falafel, is first attested in the diets of Christian monks in Roman-era Egypt, while hummus in the form we know it today is first recorded in the 13th century, also in Egypt, however that doesn't necessarily mean nobody cooked chickpeas that way before or elsewhere.
@@talknight2 Hummus & phlegm aid Hebrew pronunciation.... 😂
@@talknight2 My favorite appropriation is Islamic architecture which is actually Byzantine Christian, lol.
I served with the 82nd airborne as an infantry paratrooper, my M4 is like another appendage to me, that being said I bought a civilian X95, and absolutely love it, as a mounted troop the bullpup would have been much better to move around, it sits nice and gives a great sight picture.
I second that Part about that head cover. Thats just Brilliant of the IDF , simple and Effektiv
1:11 - You're pretty behind on the development of this rifle. For one, the new Tavor series has the magazine release by the trigger, just like an AR. Apparently, they thought that configuration was superior. This was because that unlike other bullpup engineers, the IWI guys took the time to get it right, rather than rush an inferior mechanism into manufacture. By the time the TAR/SAR-21s had hit the American marketplace-- way back in 2013 (I remember, because I waited months to get one!)-- Israel had already phased them out, and was issuing the new generation.
It's also _assembled_ in Israel. All the parts are made in America.
10:51 - The gas release issue you're referring to has long ago been fixed. Even on the old models, this was easily solved by after market parts-- a metal cover, swapped for the original plastic one.
Unsurprisingly, you didn't even mention the drop-in trigger pack, or the one-step field stripping. Maybe you guys should actually handle one of these before you make a video about it.
The whole idea is to have an AR configuration, with AK dependability, in a bullpup. Not only did they pull it off, but they're constantly improving.
Oh, and _guns_ are on tank turrets and battleships. That there is a _rifle..._ a carbine, a weapon, a firearm, a f---in' _boomstick!_
Question, any idea why the Tavor is a 4MOA rifle? The weapon in question was brand new, the ammo was not to blame.
Correction. Guns are crew served. Rifles are not. That's the distinction in the US Army.
@@hansangb - Correct. A stand-alone machine gun is, of course, also a "gun."
In Israeli knockoffs of Evil Dead movies, the IDF trained version of Ash holds off Arab Deadites with his boomstick being a Tavor.
@@milesipka - That's awesome! LMFAO!
There were a myriad of issues with the L85A1. Most have been addressed with the A2 and 3... But all variants hold open on an empty magazine. Loving your channel here in England... The weather is lousy... Keep up the good work!
"all variants hold open on an empty magazine"
For those who don't know: Look on the left side of the rifle, halfway along the cheekpiece. You'll see a square plastic knob. That is the bolt release catch. If the bolt doesn't hold open on an empty mag, why is the release catch there?
The magazine catch reference - On the 21, it looks like you grab the mag, then use your forefinger to squeeze the catch, releasing the mag. On the L85 it is the exact same movement except you use your thumb.
I don't get it - Almost every single video I watch depicting the L85 is patent make-believe. I guess the reason is that, in general, Britsh people with experience on the L85 don't have access to other firearms and so tend not to make youtube videos about them, whilst US citizens can't acquire L85 platforms to actually shoot and fairly review.
I have used the SA80a1 and a2, the SLR FN FAL and have got to play with M4.
I much prefer the SA80.
And it does hold open on an empty magazine.
You obviously have never held one if you don't know that
@@digitalradiohacker when you put in a new mag, you use it to send the working parts forward, its also used when operating for drills including functions check
TAR 21 is most beautiful rifle I have ever seen. Greets from Croatia
Bulpups are the best!
For current & future conflicts
I would take 2 to go please!!!
😊
One of my favorite rifle designs.
never understood why people hate it (the design anyway), beautiful weapon!
@@AeneasGemini I agree, especially the x95 variant where they fixed a lot of issues with the earlier design. It's essentially a bullpup m4.
Love your videos!
Cool to see a video about my army :D
Just wanted to point out that we still use the M4 and the M16 as a primary gun, it depends on the unit and the brigade.
For example I, a paratrooper fighter, am using a M4 but fighters from Golani brigade are using Tavor..
Anyways, good content, love from Israel!
Funny you should mention that, I think 890 were the first brigade to test the old Tar-21 and they decided to pass. Then Givaa'ti Tzabar took their "haktzaa" and became the first to actually deploy it around 2002-2003 if I remember correctly.
The 21 was a good gun but wasn't as reliable back then, they had failure to eject issues when the gun heated up a bit. I hear this isn't an issue with newer units.
what do you hear about the m21 sight in freezing temps? Hold up?. (Joined under a chuppah)
Chris's Hebrew is so bad my Israeli ex-wife called me to let me know she wanted to divorce me again.
Ive served in the idf, served 1.5 years with the m4 and then switch to the tavor. Hardest thing about the change was not having the non trigger hand not extended. Took a while to get used too, i like the m4 but urban and cqb scenarios the tavor take the fight hands down
I served in Handasa Kravit from 04 - 07. I was issued an M16A1 and then a few months later, the M4 Carbine. The M4 is obviously a great rifle, but I always felt like I was missing out on the Tavor.
@shroey20 i loved the fact that it is a short weapon system. For being a bullpup rifle, it's great for cqb.
Most of the weight is at the back of the gun, making it easier to hold at high ready stance for longer
@@MrEricGaming I live in California now, so I can't even buy one (they are banned). I guess I'll have to settle for UA-cam videos.
@@shroey20Banned since when? I've seen them on the shelf for civilian purchase the last time I was at the FFL in San Jose, CA. It literally caught my eye and I had to say something to the clerk behind the counter. I asked the price and everything. Didn't seem out of reach but, it wasn't what I was looking for at the time. I think you should keep looking. A lot of people behind the counter sometimes just don't know what they are talking about about the guns they sell. Or the laws that regulate them outside of keeping the business doors open. You may even luck out with a private p2p sale. Don't give up on your dream. If I want a shorter AR rifle for urban cqb I will just put one together based on the need.
@@dirrrtydawg9772 You're right, I was mistaken.
I LOVE IWI! Have a Tavor X95, TS-12 Shotgun, & my Masada...I call it my “Jewish Trifecta of Beauty” 👍🏻
But Masada was created by Americans...
I almost bought a IMI licensed 1911. IMI is now IWI for those who don’t know.
I have 2/3.
I love both my SAR and X95. It is objectively a fantastic weapon family. The AR family makes more sense for us civilians here though since it can easily be adapted to any use and parts are plentiful and cheap.
I have a FB friend from Canada who was a "lone soldier" in the IDF. He was one of the first members of the Tavor Owners' Group. The IDF call those covers "clown hats" It works as advertised but I guess it looks too silly for everyone else.
Seems to be a good shade from the hot sun too. An Israeli sombrero of sorts. Practicality vs aesthetics
@@Crustymarine Sun shade is kinda secondary since we do most of our moving & fighting at night, wherever possible. Israelis are so macho that not even skin cancer bothers them. And they smoke cigarettes incessantly but here too, lung cancer isn't a big problem in Israel.
@@s.marcus3669 LOL IDF so tough they would eat the boogers out of a dead man's nose! Salute!
Can confirm it's good shade. But it's best use is to cover your face with it while resting so the flies can't bug you
I have an SAR my brother has an X95…we both love these weapons
The l85a2 and the la85a3 both lock the bolt open when out of ammo in the mag and have a bolt release on the left side of the body just over the magazine well
The AUG, F88 and EF88 have last round hold open and bolt release as well with much better ergonomics than the L85's especially for the EF88.
Came for the miltary history, subbed for the sick dan Carlin reference. Dan is life all is Dan
1:37 Yes, the almighty Pizza rules over everthing!
8:10 lol I laughed. It’s pronounced: “Meetz ne fet”
great video!
for years now the idf mainly uses the "mtar21"- the micro tavor21, and not the old version of the longer tavor.
I've used it in my service and I can say that in my experience i'd rather have the micro tavor over the m4 any day (shot hundreds of rounds in the m4 as well, and had one for about 10 months).
ask me anything u want, ill try to answer.
Could do a video about the Galil please or the G3?
Try watching forgotten weapons
Galil and South African R4 series.
G3 also features
The sa80 locks to the rear when you run out of ammo. Although it’s still an awkward reload compared to a conventional set up.
SA-80 is a symbol of British contempt against guns.
So does a ar or m4
Other the slight rocking sideways movement of trigger mechanism housing (TMH) between the Upper of bolt carrier assembly and barrel of the UK SA80A2, I thought quirky. I didn't have anything negative about it.