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Its crazy to imagine that the C-17 only transports two Abrams tanks at A time. According to wikipedia, the Abrams is also about 60 tons. Imagine what those 20 hour flights must feel like. I am inclined to think america is going to produce such vehicles domestically for strategic considerations, and to protect as many jobs as possible. But shouldn't you pressure them to introduce that option? In europe it would save lives, same with iran, maybe Taiwan not as much, certainly there would be A better smaller option for within cities, but leave that to the generals on the ground, and hopefully they match the right kit to the right job. In G-d I trust.
To be fair the M113 is a rear line shuttlebus with just enough armor to protect against fragmentation from nearby mortar/artillery strikes. It was never designed to be on the front lines. That however didn't stop people who knew better from using it that way anyways, usually to disastrous effect for those inside.
Yup, you go to war with what you got. Not what you want/wish you had. And at war you have missions that need to be complete with what's at hand. Thus.... you know.
Cappy hates the 113 lol... But for many of these conflicts around the world; it's either you use the free M113 that we gave you or use the Toyota... Choice is yours!
Former US Army Tanker here. Big props to Israel for designing and building weapons systems that put crew safety and survivability first, in a SERIOUS way. The US does this too, but nowhere near as well as Israel. You can see they value their smaller population and want to protect them. They innovate and invest in that tech.
In Israel, every soldier who is killed in battle, everyone in the country takes the pain personally. In the Torah of the Jews it is written that each person is a whole world
@@bocaciega3027 Our B-52 planes have no toilets. No big deal for taking a pee but if you go #2, you go in a bag. Yes, there are a lot less people on board. It is recommended not to go #2 on the plane and you will get really ragged on if you do.
@@hodadani3400 so do yall also feel great pain for the over 100 children killed during Isreali air strikes? (Btw the IDF refuses to admit they've killed this many children, the official IDF number is less than 10 children have been killed in their air strikes) so it seems that the jews only consider other jews to be people And do you feel great pain for the Palestinians killed by IDF forces so jews can illegally settle and occupy Palestinian land? (Because the UN considers the Isreali occupation to be wholly illegal)
Yeah, a lot of that comes down to everybody knowing that their kids are going to be part of the military. In the US, most of the military comes from the lower and middle class, and so the elites know that their kids aren't typically going to be a tanker. Conversely, in Israel, every political leader and billionaire knows that their kid might be in one of those tanks, and so they have a strong incentive to make sure that the troops are as protected as possible.
When the M113 was designed, around the time of the second temple, it could withstand the bronze swords and iron shuttles from sling-whips of the day. It wasn’t until armor piercing Romans came along that we had issues.
Driver here, this vehicle absolutely amazing, has onboard generator,biological and chemical air filters (entire interior is airtight and pressurized) water cooler, and a lot more… For those who wonder, theres no “secrets” in this comment, you can blatantly go to wikipedia and read about it;
Bro i am in golani a'd I just want to know where the toilets are supposed to be, because I heard that in war I'm supposed yo bring an empty bottle to pee in it
Im Givati :) luckily I managed to both drive and command the Namer and the previous Achzarit, such a huge different and makes you appriciate the little things.
IDF reserve combat officer here: the greatest advantage of the M113 is that you *absolutely know* how vulnerable you are and you operate with utmost caution at all times. This attitude doesn't always work, though...
@@lordskrothus Big talk from someone who lives comfy over seas eh? Come live in the Middle east with ur cross or whatever bullcrap u believe in on you're neck and walk in hot zones like Lebanon/Iraq/Gaza/Syria/Sinai (Basically half of our neighbors). Let alone that the Arab-Israeli conflict is a dwarf compared to all other on going conflicts around.
@@lordskrothus Expressly targeting Civilians while building missile launching platforms to attack said Civilians, amongst your own, "People", IS a, "War crime". But Jews fighting back is a, "War crime", only to a nazi. BTW there is no, "P", in arabic. The name Provincia Syria Palaestina was proclaimed by Rome to forever be the name of the Nation, Judah, after the Second Jewish/Roman war in 135 AD. The arabs wouldn't invade for another 500 years. Not to mention that 90+% of the fakenstinians are under the rule of the pa or hamas.
Having heavy APC/IFVs is essential for armored units. In tanks they go from 3 to 4 crew members in the APC/IFV they can go from 10 to 14 people, it is essential to give them maximum protection.
@@MrBurns0922 Greetings from Spain . I understand that in Iraq what was done were patrols or actions against insurgency. In the case of these vehicles, they were thought more in the face of conventional warfare. bye
@@arbelico2 In a conventional sense I would use it as a battle field taxi and support by fire position. Get out and maneuver on the enemy. It’s awesome that it’s built like a tank and can take a beating. It only has a .50 but it’s still a .50. The limited experience I have is in a Marine AFV. Both times for about 6 hours and they are not fun to ride in with full gear and 13 other people jammed in like sardines. Point I’m trying to make is it’s not super fun in the back and missiles exist. Just my thoughts as a dumb grunt. Semper Fi
One thing to note, due to the Namer's mobility issue, the IDF is also planning on introducing a wheeled APC/IFV (the Eitan). It has the same active protection as the Namer and the first production unit is undergoing field testing right now. As you mentioned, the main hurdle is money. These babies don't come cheap sadly. Edit: fixed some grammar and as Ron Maximillian mentioned, it's the Iron Fist APS and not the Trophy.
Namer is upgraded to IFV role from APC by upgunning with unmanned 30mm turret while its previous role of APC is to be filled with a medium weight wheeled APC Eitian which is mrap rated.
It's easier to develop heavy APCs and IFVs when you don't have to worry about making them lighter for transport by aircraft or ship. At most, the Israelis mike make use of tank carriers to get the Namer close to a chosen battle zone, but it could just as easily be driven to the front and used immediately. Commonality of parts with the Israeli main battle tanks also simplifies logistics and training. Very good to see how they've always valued the lives of their troops and build for survivability in their weapons systems.
It is also important to notice that's beside the budget and price considerations, the Israeli society is extremely susceptible to casualties (not only because of cold population concerns but mainly because of cultural reasons) - which puts the safety of its fighters at top priority for the IDF, what affects heavily on designs and purchasing decisions.
To iterate on that, since most of the army is mandatory drafting the soldiers don't have a choice, they have to. unlike the us army which is a payed job or the russian army which is mandatory but shit, its consider the army's foremost important to make sure they come home in one piece. Every cost or complexity it brings is worth it. The army is also highly skilled. Instead of drafting you can go study and join the army as a professional soliders later on, this staffs the army with lost of educated engineers and thinkers.
@@tomroyca More elective based on your physical condition, if your only son or not (If you are then paperwork and asking your parents to sign a permission) and then assignment based on your education.
The IDF have always lacked the means to get hold of or create their machines but they’ve always managed to create amazing machines…..look what they did with Sherman’s !
At Yad La Shiryon in central Israel , there are LOADS of examples of what creative minds can do with Sherman and Centurion tanks ( as well as captured Russian tanks )
Slight error on the Achzarit - it's actually based on the T-54 and not T-45 (which historically and with the image used is actually just a prototype for the T-70 light tank) Just thought I'd get that out there (I'm sure a lot of others noticed the error as well)
Not only that, but it wasn't the first heavy APC in the IDF The first one was the Nagmashot which came in response to the use of IEDs by the Hisbala and others in Libanon during the 80. It was basically a centurion hall with an armor plate welded to the top, and 4 machine gun operators hatch drilled . The centurion was called in IDF service "shut" chance the name "Nagmashut" When the IEDs became more potent and sophisticated, the Nagmashut were given additional belly protection, and the configuration was doubt "Nagmahon" An abbreviation for belly-protected APC in hebrew. The last iteration of the shout family was the "NACPADON" with sow a complete overhaul stronger engene where fitted, and the tot arrmor was completely changed to heavy copola stayle with 360 deg observation and fire support. Those came to be in the late 90s, early 2000s in congaction with the "Ahzarit" .
They have top engineering and when you are a small country surrounded on all sides by potential enemies then you figure shit out that works in reality -not what just benefits corporate industry.
Yup, being faced with actual extermination seems to keenly focus their Military HQ. No wonder the Russians are all over the place with their looney ideas about saving their country.
i was in israeli army, and the real reason why they invest sooo heavily (and not enough IMO) into armored personnel carriers is becouse IDF values human lives only second to mission accomplishment on the battlefield (and sometimes above it)
"Financial sense" in the same sentence as with "MBT" should never happen. Wheeled APC work and cost a fraction of the cost of anything referring to maintenance
I suggested this years ago, but issue is that its rather rare for military to swap their MBT's other than upgrading same platform until it simply cannot be upgraded so there isint many chassis around to convert. Other thing is the engine and gearbox placement that makes it difficult for other MBT's. Also there is plenty of IFV and troop transport option already out there that are cheaper and more cost effective. As mentioned Israel has its specific needs but more relay on heavy vehicles against infantry in ambush etc, while other militaries relay on infantry being outside supporting the vehicles and vise versa. Its so different fighting method that it makes no sense anyone but Israelis to do. Also other countries dont have USA as sugardaddy drowning them in US taxpayers money, with small hats having infiltrated US government to make sure they shill for Israel...
Dude: We need an ifv Toronto: We have an ifv at home The ifv at home: Armored ttc bus with chlorine gas stored in soda cans and molotovs that are picked up by $50 drones and mounted mp5 and scoped hunting rifles on the windows
@GreeezeedPiig- No, the IDF does its utmost to avoid killing women and children. However, the Palestinian terrorists do their utmost to deliberately murder unarmed Israeli women and children. Whenever Arab women or children get killed in Israeli retaliatory attacks, it is due to the Palestinian terrorists using their own civilian population as human shields.
Excellent review of the IDF's armored weapons. You hit the nail on the head with your statement that each soldiers life is precious... Good program. Well presented.
When things are tough adaption and Improvising is what makes or breaks a military especially if you’re a underdog or outnumbered vs numerous rivals armed with anti tank weapons or rockets and mortars that trophy system is quite cool
@00 00 ehh that’s true but for clear open places and fields it’s quite different I’d say it’s like Ukraine with towns cities being fought in and GPS and Drones being used a semi gurrila warfare war is ever changing that’s forsure and homefield advantage helps a lot
@@Victor-g he just said he served in the armor corps and that the tank is awesome, not that he drove one. The Merkava tanks were converted into armored ambulances and were used by medics so its possible and plausible he was a medic in a Merkava. Israel is one of the few countries to used armed ambulances and tank ambulances due to the fact their enemies almost universally dont respect the laws of war and target medical vehicles regardless of red cross or red crescent markings.
Awesome to see this video, just had my first week of training with the NAMER. It's a amazing feeling to get back into this machine after running around in the heat of the desert and go into the air-conditioned NAMER. GOD IS GREAT.
in addition to the Namer (Leopard) in 2020 the IDF started the integration of the 8x8 Eitan (Steadfast) APC capable of mounting a 30mm autocannon turret as an IFV or just a RWS .50/mk19. as for the video, some mistakes: the first tank chassis apcs were retired centurions (Sho'ts in IDF service) converted to Nagmashot/nagmachon (combat engineer version)/nakpadon (uparmored)/puma (uparmored engineering) heavy APCs. in addition some T-55s captured during 1967 and '73 were converted to Achzarit (cruel girl) heavy APCs. the engine was already different due to them being upgraded to tiran 4/5s before being turned to achzarit APCs. so it wasnt during 1948 war and it wasnt a T-45 soviet prototype.
@@dl6860 No grounds yet your the one who belives every word that shitfest Israel say. they claim to be "a jewish state" yet one of the first amendments in the Torah is "do not kill". Maybe you should set your grounds first before assuming I'm just some biased Palestinian boy who has nothing to lose.
THE best IFV for sure! And the Merkava in my opinion is THE best looking MBT ever! This angled turret looks so futuristic , I know looks don’t matter but man it’s cool looking and this IFV also the best looking IFV I’ve seen but amazing in its duty , wish we could employ it but understand the weight issue.
Yeah, 60 tons is like two Bradleys. Very hard to transport that anywhere quickly. C-5s and C-17s can only carry one MBT each and it really cuts their flight range with that much weight, they can usually fit 2-3 Bradleys for the same range. And transport by ship takes ages. Then ground transport outside of deployment zone a 60t IFV would require a tank transporter, while a Bradley can be transported by a regular semi truck, and a tank transporter can haul 2-3 bradleys but only one MBT (and 60t IFV is basically an MBT).
Reinforces lol. The eitan is huge. Its actually night than a boxer. We have strykers because they are the perfect size to deliver by transport aircraft.
Correct but there's another major difference. Namer and Merkava cannot ride on roads because their treads will ruin them and shut down the traffic and economy. Tanks and APCs need carriers, in Israel, to travel long distances. But Eitan can quickly be transported to front lines using wheels. The Nakhal brigade will get the Eitan and that fits their designation as medium weight infantry which is highly mobile (The Tzankhanim paratroopers are considered light weight infantry and they use lighter vehicles, not APCs) I would not be surprised to see the Kfir brigade getting the Eitan as well, for the same reasons. Golani and Givaati on the other hands were always considered heavy mech infantry (both had Akhzarit before the Namer)
The merkava is an awesome tank and scary looking from the front, I always thought the merkava was so futuristic looking and with those chains hanging down on the back of the turret made it look like something out of road warrior 🤔
This is the world's BEST IFV hands down no question. I am continually astounded that other militaries take so long to understand the innovative edge that Israel has on the regular. The Israelis asked an extremely fundamental question, "Why not have an IFV with the armor of an MBT?" The answer = the Namer. The logic of streamlining production into only one chassis is also very apparent. Why have a vehicle (IFV) full of your soldiers, and not armor it as much as your tanks? The intuitive nature of this solution is still not being adopted by any other major powers and is a massive industry-wide oversight. Additionally, the morale boost of having your military put the soldiers' lives first above all else cannot be overstated. As armored as a tank + the trophy active defense system makes the Namer #1 in the world for IFV's without a doubt. As an American, I hope our military realizes this and it doesn't take thousands of our men and women dead to make them wake up to this fact. Lastly, I believe the American strategic thinking revolved around copying what the Russians did with the first iteration of the BMP. When the BMP first arrived on the scene we had no counterpart similar to it. In the rush to balance this gap, the US rushed to copy the Russians. The flaw here has always been copying the Russians without realizing the BMP was developed alongside their fighting doctrine, that is, soldiers' lives aren't important. The Russians don't need to armor their IFVs for additional cost and manufacturing time, they need to pressure the enemy with as many soldiers as possible as fast as they can. The Russians don't really care how many of their troops die as long as they win. This critical strategic flaw has continued to all other IFVs that came after until the Namer. The goal of any IFVs in ANY western country should be to get your troops to the battlefield "as safely as possible." That is (or should be) our fighting doctrine. Israel is the only country exemplifying it.
Exactly, Israel's doctrine is basically this - it's better to have 4 very well protected and more expensive APCs/IFVs, than 8 cheaper, blown up IFVs/APCs. Any military going solely for numbers is led by idiots. The war in Ukraine has shown us that APS are a must, even if it means costing one million dollars more per frontline vehicle. It's way better to have smaller armored formations equipped with APS than bigger armored formations without.
It doesn’t really make manufacturing that much more efficient, as a matter of fact it actually gets in the way somewhat of the production of both the Namer and the Merkavah. Israel doesn’t have the infrastructure or space to just build more factories, so the production of the Namer has essentially made the production of both of them slower, because they have to share limited resources and labor. As such, while the Golani and Givati brigades have more or less received their full complements of IFVs, the support and engineering versions of the Namer that are intended to go into wider use have been very, very slow to come into service.
I am from Israel, and a few Years ago I closed the door of an APC on my head during a showcase of Military Equipment in Independence Day, love from Israel
Interesting design. It might not be able to be sent to other nations but it serves its purpose protecting what it needs to protect. That pop up missile launcher system is honestly something that would be interesting to see on a version of the Stryker with Javelin missiles being used.
@@itzikashemtov6045 literally stated I was just comparing standard non ER versions. And thought it was clear man/ground launched. They both have a bunch of different variants.
Designs that go internally do limit future concepts, because youve introduced a wall by fixed dimentions, a rotary system might be better but obviously that creates a vulnerability to airborne toxins, i guess as long as you can get your shot out fast enough its all ok😊
And that is the entire operating philosophy of the IDF. Everything they use is optimized for their situation. They don't fight wars 10,000mi from home so don't need something light enough to fit in a plane. They don't have a large pool to recruit from and that pool is shrinking (ultra-orthodox settlement dwellers are exempt from mandatory service, which is a major political issue in Israel) so protection for troops is paramount
hi, IDF tanker here, small correction. the namer is a Mark 3 chassis not a mark 4 chassis, you could tell by the more wavy tank treads instead of discarding the mark 3 the idf turned the leftovers into an APC , also little cool fact, it has a stretcher attachment that you could treat wounded inside the APC during combat
Servered I’m these for 2 years, the ac and water cooler were great but there’s definitely no toilet inside, one cool thing about these is they have a “trunk” for your bags/equipment so you don’t have to sit on it
Back in 4th edition 40K had a friend that ran Orks. He had a Looted Land Raider that he liked to show to Space Maine players. He would open up the front ramp to point out the gretchin on a toilet shitting on the machine spirit to keep it in line.
The Namer is what an APC should be: hard to kill yet but lightly armed, making it a non-priority target for the enemy's heavy weapons. The inherent flaw of the IFV concept is that you have a vehicle with the offensive threat of a tank and thus it warrants the same amount of effort to destroy, yet it's much easier to kill and is also carrying troops. You want a dedicated heavily armored but lightly armed APC, so the enemy won't waste their limited supply of heavy weapons on it.
As a former Australian tank soldier, I was always of the opinion that we could and probably should have gone for the Merkva tank, instead of the Abrams, because of its intriguing design and ability to carry a half section of troops, which could provide area security, freeing up the crew to perform maintenance. This is because, during my time, 1st Armoured Regiment and tanks weren't well integrated with the rest of the Army, and we rarely worked alongside infantry and when we did, they were too scared of the vehicle to be effective. I love the look of the Namer, because of the simple fact that infantry need to accompany tanks and man portable systems, are, as you say, becoming increasingly deadly to even the heaviest armour. Mind you, as the Russians have discovered, in war, Logistics is King and without fuel, even the mightiest armour is just begging to be farmer fodder. So, given that the US does logistics very well, I would say that this vehicle, or something similar is a perfect option for the United States. Australia, with our vast empty spaces? Probably less so. It will be very interesting to see how this vehicle develops and where the future of armour goes after the lessons of the war in Ukraine are digested.
@@CorePathway I agree. It was actually the medivac tank that originally grabbed my attention, as I recall seeing one on the news and thought it a damned good idea, given that during my service we used the M113 for this purpose and it really isn't suited, both in terms of protection and comfort for the injured troops.
The Merkava tanks and the Namer would serve the Australians and Americans well, Bec the tank was designed for desert. And your country and mine have loads of desert. I have to say, good observation Herr Rose. :D
Hi, fellow tanker here - from US 2nd Armored Division. Do you think the weight of the Namer would be a hindrance in operations in your country? Not sure what the likely battle terrain is like in Australia. About carrying infantry in the tank, I'm not so sure that would be a great idea. For long deployments, it's already a PITA to have just 4 guys in the vehicle. I can't imagine having twice as many. Also, having to be the chauffer for a bunch of crunchies means you can't just move out when needed - leaving them behind. At some point you'll need to pick them up. I've been in a few deployments and most of the time, you need infantry to do infantry stuff and tanks to do tank stuff, working together in coordination is optimal, but combining the two organically seems like a recipe for degraded performance in the key role of both. What do you think?
@@firelock9080 I think it’s a mute point because the Merkava tank carrying troops is a misconception. A Merkava with its ammunition stripped (except for the ready rack) could carry maybe half a squad of soldiers. A Merkava with its ammunition can still can a wounded soldier in the back, but not much else. However Merkava tanks integrate well with infantry units, so they operate really well in conjunction with namer APCs.
NAMER is pronounced: "Nah-mare" Israelis write names in english without considering the rules of pronunciation of English. so Namer is just the letters נמר with the minimal amount of vowels (that doesn't exist in hebrew) or just read it as if it was Spanish... that will mostly work... (so Achzarit would be "Ajzarit")
And my ears! I just heard him saying "Az-chree-at"...😆 He seriously needs a coach for foreign language words when making these videos. And "Nag-mesh"... His Hebrew pronunciation is making me sad... 😢
@@ronmaximilian6953 thing is...not only did he not pronounce the 'כ' ('chaf', not 'ח' 'chet') of 'אכזרית' correctly, which is much more forgivable, he somehow moved the 'z' in front of it. If he'd said "Ak-za-reet", one wouldn't blink an eye. Instead he managed to butcher the word, lol.
@@ronmaximilian6953 s'okay...most people don't make any distinction between the letters anyway (even though there is one), so it's easy enough to get them mixed up.
Hey, I’m impressed that he was in the ballpark. Maybe I’m just jaded by overseas colleagues butchering Israeli coworker first names NO MATTER HOW MANY YEARS we repeat the names correctly constantly on Zoom meetings each week.
You just gave me goosebumps when i wasnt expecting. A childhood friend of mine died in the first m113 explosion at may 11th 2004. RIP, and will always remember you.
Namer commander here Have to say ,we are absolutely in love with that APC . Amazing specs and strength Higley comfortable for the soldiers and awesome tech inside.
To be fair to the M113, it was never designed for combat operations. It was/is a battle taxi to get troops to the front line, then hightail it back to the rear echelon.
Beggers can't be choosers. The US gave them to us, and we had nothing else then. The sad thing is that the US was only willing to give the M113 to us, nothing else, which forced us to come up with our solutions. In the long run, this is better, though, because when you make things in-house, you are less reliant on others, and the money stays in your economy. If you pay $2 million for an American unit, you pay 2 million dollars; if you pay 3 million dollars for an Israeli unit, you have dozens of companies and contractors and tens of thousands of Israelis paying back taxes.
As a soilder in the idf in the golani brigade (who use the namer) 1. I've never seen or heard about toilet in the namer, I dont know what your scorcese but... 2. The Achzarit was built from arabs t55 which we captured in 1967 six day war. (not t45 from 1948 war) The fact is the Achzarit get to service only in the 70's
@@rigelbound6749 compare that to the 90-95% religious affiliation we see in most Arab countries, it's easy to see why the core concepts of freedom of beliefs don't sink in quite as well as we would hope for those who think Israel's ultra religious or something lol
3 corrections: 1. It's pronounced na-mer, no na-mir... 2. The Namer is actually based on Merkava 4. 3. There's another APC in production, the Eitan (steadfast). It's wheeled and less protected, but still more protected and heavier than the Stryker.
I drove on that prototype back in the army with the electric torret. This thing is a beast without speed limiter it can go 90 Km/h offroad !! And this vehicle protection ability is unbelievable
The APC that you see at 5:05 is specifically fitted for combat engineers and is called Namera, where the "A" at the end stands for "Handasa", which means engineering
Idea for Cappy: Could you do a video on the Armed forces of Moldova, their equipment, history, and stuff like that, and if they are capable in a war against Russia since a couple months back there was plans of invading Moldova. Basically, and analysis on Moldova's combat readiness similar to the Lebanese army video. Apparently, the unrecognized breakaway state Transnistria has a somewhat better army then Moldova but it's mostly Soviet equipment.
From what I understand, Romania and Ukraine won't let anything happen to Moldova. Transnistria is done, finished, and they know it. From the news Moldova is getting some training and maybe equipment from Romania, so things might be changing.
@@tech477 Hear hear... Romania is in NATO and the transnistrian troops afaik are regular Russian army troops. I'd be surprised if those around 1500 were to use the major arsenal to attack Ukraine at this point, but Romania getting involved? I don't really see that... but that's just my hunch, you might have much better sources.
Simply judging on looks, I absolutely love the look of the Merkavas and the Namer. They look futuristic and quite sleek, but sort of gritty at the same time.
Merkava is exactly what I imagine when i think "tank" I mean even a kid's drawing of a sillhouete of a tank would look like it. It's definetly a tank haha
@@commanderhurst3283 Namer would be very difficult to transport. Mobility is a huge concern for the US military because we mostly fight on the other side of the planet. Israel doesn't have to transport the Namer 10,000mi to the front line, and they don't have to transport the logistics train the Namer needs that same distance.
In WWII, Canada took a series of tanks such as Sherman and their own Rams, and converted them into Armored Personnel Carriers by removing the turrets, ammunition racks and putting seats for troops. They called them Kangaroos
1:40 I very much doubt that they removed an 8.5 ton turret from a T-45 (which is also pictured there), which only weights 7 tons total. The Achzarit is based on the much bigger T-55, which is around 35-40 tons.
T-45 is prototype of T-70 light tank from ww2, but there is no data about Arabic countries getting Soviet equipment in that period. In six day war yes, Israeli made APCs from T54 tanks
I’ve come to like Israeli armor. Combined arms gets the job done. Having rows of APC’s in a perpetual traffic jam is insane (*cough* Russia) and columns of tanks are big, heavy and can’t sweep and hold territory.
Sure but they don't use there equipment in multi theatre. It's designed well for its local environment. But not designed to be airlifted into every continent of the globe.
Their heavy equipment and especially merkava is useless in any other situation than fighting low tech troops with its 105mm gun and so-so armoring. My ex-gf was IDF
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti The Merkava has a 120mm gun from MK3 onward, basically on all models in current use, you "expert". I also personally served in the IDF btw, so what?
We've always admired how Israelis keep their equipment up to date. Our active protection system was first tested circa 1983, but never saw combat. Even today we don't have much if Arenas on our armor.
Thanks for this comprehensive look. Here's some info on how to properly pronounce all those Hebrew names and acronyms... Namer AFV - Nah•Mehr Nagmash - (acronym for APC) Nahg•Mahsh Merkavah MBT - ("chariot") Mehr•Kah•Vah Achzarit APC - ("cruel," wish we had had them in '82) Ahx•Zah•Reet
9:30 If you continue reading on that; it mentions the IFV soldiers didn't even realize trophy system had activated and defended them. It was that effective. They didn't even realize it was deployed until back to base and saw the entire side of that tank black from soot hahah.
Makes no sense, Trophy warns the crew when activated and informs of their direction, in later versions (might be even true for 2014) it automatically moves the turret towards the location of fire
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Last sentence with a tears 😅 Thanks for serving btw, Im in Israel only for a few month, so I don't dare to write in Hebrew, but hopefully, going to the army in the next year will help me learning this language
Very interesting and informative video on the best protection for soldiers, regardless of cost! Israel values the lives of its military personnel and goes to unequalled lengths to protect them. A military doing anything less is doing a disservice to its personnel.
Namer is upgraded to IFV role from APC by upgunning with unmanned 30mm turret while its previous role of APC is to be filled with a medium weight wheeled APC Eitian which is mrap rated.
The Merkava and therefore the Namer is wider than 3.5 meter so you can not transport it by rail and 3.5 meter is also the max width for wide road loads. Notice how tanks and self propelled guns, the falcon 9 rocket the shuttle SRB all is 3.5 meter wide. The paperwork and pain transporting something 3.7 meter wide is lots more.
Abrams: 3.66m / 12ft width Bradley: 3.6m / 12ft Leopard 2: 3.76m width Puma IFV: 4m width (full armor) Merkava: 3.72 m or 12.2 ft (excl. skirts) Are you just talking about U.S regulations?
Infantry warfare is becoming more technical and information technology intensive every day. Requiring more and more technical knowledge/input from every squad member. All while force personnel numbers have been savagely reduced through cutbacks and mechanisation. In all armies, the value of and investment is each soldier has increased steadily along with their difficulty of replacing from an equally well trained reserve. Therefore crew and passenger protection is of paramount importance, for everyone!
While being true, LCS already demonstrated fallacy of extreme undermanning. Remember that 90% or so of time is NOT fighting but doing BAU work to keep unit in fighting trim. Fail at that and battle is lost before shooting starts. With too low numbers and too many duties, troops will get too fatigued.
Not sure about the wisdom of cramming 11 people up in 1 vehicle. That makes it a priority target, and any enemy will quickly learn to defeat the armor.
Thank you for your post. I really enjoy them. I don’t know how you got this job. But I’m glad you did. You really fit this program. That you are so knowledgeable is very cool. I am really into UA-cam. As I scroll through the videos I find that I get a lot of knowledge dropped on me. You are so good at this, thank you for what you do.
@@residentidiocracy7342 No it isn't, imagine taking a tank, removing the turret and reinvesting all of that saved weight into a more armored hull. That's what the Namer is.
Before watching this video I thought this veichle was a victional veichle from the game Arma 3... It looks too much futuristic... I'm happy That is real!!! Because it looks awesome!!!!
As usual, your analysis beats anything put out by the Pentagon drones and media pencil necks. In addition, your sarcastic humor makes videos very entertaining. Semper Fi doggie grunt.
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I really appreciate your support! stay hooah out there.
Is Xi Jinping actually under house arrest?
Syria also made their own trophy system. during the syria civil war
@@sallavander Ya, for stealing all the honey...
@@valorz6064 dear god lol
Its crazy to imagine that the C-17 only transports two Abrams tanks at A time. According to wikipedia, the Abrams is also about 60 tons. Imagine what those 20 hour flights must feel like. I am inclined to think america is going to produce such vehicles domestically for strategic considerations, and to protect as many jobs as possible.
But shouldn't you pressure them to introduce that option? In europe it would save lives, same with iran, maybe Taiwan not as much, certainly there would be A better smaller option for within cities, but leave that to the generals on the ground, and hopefully they match the right kit to the right job. In G-d I trust.
To be fair the M113 is a rear line shuttlebus with just enough armor to protect against fragmentation from nearby mortar/artillery strikes. It was never designed to be on the front lines. That however didn't stop people who knew better from using it that way anyways, usually to disastrous effect for those inside.
Yup, you go to war with what you got. Not what you want/wish you had. And at war you have missions that need to be complete with what's at hand. Thus.... you know.
Yeah, a lot of people seem to forget that.
Cappy hates the 113 lol... But for many of these conflicts around the world; it's either you use the free M113 that we gave you or use the Toyota... Choice is yours!
@@valorz6064 at least the Toyota is fast, fast enough to not activate land mines.
@@natebox4550 Toyota, tough enough for any job. 😤
Former US Army Tanker here. Big props to Israel for designing and building weapons systems that put crew safety and survivability first, in a SERIOUS way. The US does this too, but nowhere near as well as Israel. You can see they value their smaller population and want to protect them. They innovate and invest in that tech.
Thoughts on the toilet?
In Israel, every soldier who is killed in battle, everyone in the country takes the pain personally. In the Torah of the Jews it is written that each person is a whole world
@@bocaciega3027 Our B-52 planes have no toilets. No big deal for taking a pee but if you go #2, you go in a bag. Yes, there are a lot less people on board. It is recommended not to go #2 on the plane and you will get really ragged on if you do.
@@hodadani3400 so do yall also feel great pain for the over 100 children killed during Isreali air strikes? (Btw the IDF refuses to admit they've killed this many children, the official IDF number is less than 10 children have been killed in their air strikes) so it seems that the jews only consider other jews to be people
And do you feel great pain for the Palestinians killed by IDF forces so jews can illegally settle and occupy Palestinian land? (Because the UN considers the Isreali occupation to be wholly illegal)
Yeah, a lot of that comes down to everybody knowing that their kids are going to be part of the military. In the US, most of the military comes from the lower and middle class, and so the elites know that their kids aren't typically going to be a tanker. Conversely, in Israel, every political leader and billionaire knows that their kid might be in one of those tanks, and so they have a strong incentive to make sure that the troops are as protected as possible.
When the M113 was designed, around the time of the second temple, it could withstand the bronze swords and iron shuttles from sling-whips of the day. It wasn’t until armor piercing Romans came along that we had issues.
I believe the Hittite iron chariots actually were famed for leaving hulks of burned out M113's scattered across the Moabite plains, as well...
I remember clearly the Assyrian front-line units being rather able to neutralize scores of Babylonian M113 with their archer volleys!
Then the sea peoples came
Lmao! The M113 should've been completely scrapped a long time ago. It's appalling that soldiers are still dying in it on the modern battlefield...
Anyone who thinks the M113 can withstand iron shuttles is drinking the coolaid. Not a chance.
Driver here, this vehicle absolutely amazing, has onboard generator,biological and chemical air filters (entire interior is airtight and pressurized) water cooler, and a lot more…
For those who wonder, theres no “secrets” in this comment, you can blatantly go to wikipedia and read about it;
i remember the water cooler, was amazing. are you also in golani?
Bro i am in golani a'd I just want to know where the toilets are supposed to be, because I heard that in war I'm supposed yo bring an empty bottle to pee in it
@@alexandrekatz4968 I dont remember honestly, its been a long time. 2011. good luck!
How’s the ride quality?
Im Givati :) luckily I managed to both drive and command the Namer and the previous Achzarit,
such a huge different and makes you appriciate the little things.
IDF reserve combat officer here: the greatest advantage of the M113 is that you *absolutely know* how vulnerable you are and you operate with utmost caution at all times. This attitude doesn't always work, though...
Merkava gunner here.
I've been inside a Namer couple of times and probably my favourite thing about it is the "floating" seats with shock absorbers.
Gee, such luxury :o
May G-d bless and protect you and all Israeli soldiers.
@@lordskrothus Big talk from someone who lives comfy over seas eh? Come live in the Middle east with ur cross or whatever bullcrap u believe in on you're neck and walk in hot zones like Lebanon/Iraq/Gaza/Syria/Sinai (Basically half of our neighbors).
Let alone that the Arab-Israeli conflict is a dwarf compared to all other on going conflicts around.
@@lordskrothus Expressly targeting Civilians while building missile launching platforms to attack said Civilians, amongst your own, "People", IS a, "War crime". But Jews fighting back is a, "War crime", only to a nazi. BTW there is no, "P", in arabic. The name Provincia Syria Palaestina was proclaimed by Rome to forever be the name of the Nation, Judah, after the Second Jewish/Roman war in 135 AD. The arabs wouldn't invade for another 500 years. Not to mention that 90+% of the fakenstinians are under the rule of the pa or hamas.
@@itzikashemtov6045 I respect Israel 🇮🇱 I know it’s not perfect of course but I wouldn’t want to fight it lol they are tough people ❤ from 🇪🇹
@@kfekadu55 You know, we have many Ethiopian Jews serving in the IDF :)
Having heavy APC/IFVs is essential for armored units. In tanks they go from 3 to 4 crew members in the APC/IFV they can go from 10 to 14 people, it is essential to give them maximum protection.
They were better off on foot in the combat zone.
I’d rather walk and I did 75% of the time in Iraq.
Which is why this APC is the best
@@MrBurns0922 Greetings from Spain . I understand that in Iraq what was done were patrols or actions against insurgency. In the case of these vehicles, they were thought more in the face of conventional warfare. bye
@@arbelico2 In a conventional sense I would use it as a battle field taxi and support by fire position. Get out and maneuver on the enemy. It’s awesome that it’s built like a tank and can take a beating. It only has a .50 but it’s still a .50. The limited experience I have is in a Marine AFV. Both times for about 6 hours and they are not fun to ride in with full gear and 13 other people jammed in like sardines. Point I’m trying to make is it’s not super fun in the back and missiles exist. Just my thoughts as a dumb grunt. Semper Fi
One thing to note, due to the Namer's mobility issue, the IDF is also planning on introducing a wheeled APC/IFV (the Eitan). It has the same active protection as the Namer and the first production unit is undergoing field testing right now. As you mentioned, the main hurdle is money. These babies don't come cheap sadly.
Edit: fixed some grammar and as Ron Maximillian mentioned, it's the Iron Fist APS and not the Trophy.
Good thing they can rely on Congress sending them more American tax dollars for it.
Namer is upgraded to IFV role from APC by upgunning with unmanned 30mm turret while its previous role of APC is to be filled with a medium weight wheeled APC Eitian which is mrap rated.
@@tartrazine5 it helps some , but most of the prudction is in-house
@@annatarthelightbringer1363 and the house is paid by American tax payers
@@tartrazine5 85% of US aid is spent in US.
It's easier to develop heavy APCs and IFVs when you don't have to worry about making them lighter for transport by aircraft or ship. At most, the Israelis mike make use of tank carriers to get the Namer close to a chosen battle zone, but it could just as easily be driven to the front and used immediately. Commonality of parts with the Israeli main battle tanks also simplifies logistics and training. Very good to see how they've always valued the lives of their troops and build for survivability in their weapons systems.
It is also important to notice that's beside the budget and price considerations, the Israeli society is extremely susceptible to casualties (not only because of cold population concerns but mainly because of cultural reasons) - which puts the safety of its fighters at top priority for the IDF, what affects heavily on designs and purchasing decisions.
To iterate on that, since most of the army is mandatory drafting the soldiers don't have a choice, they have to. unlike the us army which is a payed job or the russian army which is mandatory but shit, its consider the army's foremost important to make sure they come home in one piece. Every cost or complexity it brings is worth it.
The army is also highly skilled. Instead of drafting you can go study and join the army as a professional soliders later on, this staffs the army with lost of educated engineers and thinkers.
@@avicohen2k on top of what you've said, the combat units ARE elective or voluntary.
@@tomroyca More elective based on your physical condition, if your only son or not (If you are then paperwork and asking your parents to sign a permission) and then assignment based on your education.
@@Alik_Odess indeed. Must be physically fit to serve in combat units.
That is also why they put the engine in the front of their MBT to improve troop survivability - one of the only countries to do so.
The IDF have always lacked the means to get hold of or create their machines but they’ve always managed to create amazing machines…..look what they did with Sherman’s !
At Yad La Shiryon in central Israel , there are LOADS of examples of what creative minds can do with Sherman and Centurion tanks ( as well as captured Russian tanks )
Slight error on the Achzarit - it's actually based on the T-54 and not T-45 (which historically and with the image used is actually just a prototype for the T-70 light tank)
Just thought I'd get that out there (I'm sure a lot of others noticed the error as well)
also that was a conversion done after the six day war not in 1948
Captured hundreds of Egyptian T54s right?
@@neiljasonvillanueva1864 also Syrians
@@militarynerdsnek7639 I thought all Syrians were blown ones in Golan Heights.
Not only that, but it wasn't the first heavy APC in the IDF
The first one was the Nagmashot which came in response to the use of IEDs by the Hisbala and others in Libanon during the 80.
It was basically a centurion hall with an armor plate welded to the top, and 4 machine gun operators hatch drilled .
The centurion was called in IDF service "shut" chance the name "Nagmashut"
When the IEDs became more potent and sophisticated, the Nagmashut were given additional belly protection, and the configuration was doubt "Nagmahon"
An abbreviation for belly-protected APC in hebrew.
The last iteration of the shout family was the "NACPADON" with sow a complete overhaul stronger engene where fitted, and the tot arrmor was completely changed to heavy copola stayle with 360 deg observation and fire support.
Those came to be in the late 90s, early 2000s in congaction with the "Ahzarit" .
They have top engineering and when you are a small country surrounded on all sides by potential enemies then you figure shit out that works in reality -not what just benefits corporate industry.
Yup, being faced with actual extermination seems to keenly focus their Military HQ. No wonder the Russians are all over the place with their looney ideas about saving their country.
This is spot on, and is very true for many things outside of our military
They also have the US bankrolling em. Take that money away why don't we?
As a combat soldier in the Israeli Armored Corps I gotta say - I enjoyed watching the video! Thank you for creating great content, keep it up! =]
Yaaa.
Love breaking old ladies arms and legs shoot children who throw stones like colonials slaughtered 90 million + who threw spears with a gun
😂 you will enjoy more once we stop the aid but it’s unlikely cause our politicians are all Israeli
Murderer.
Hows it feel to be an indoctrinated, paid, baby killer for an apartheid state?
i was in israeli army, and the real reason why they invest sooo heavily (and not enough IMO) into armored personnel carriers is becouse IDF values human lives only second to mission accomplishment on the battlefield (and sometimes above it)
Murderer.
@@podiceps Cry more
How many civilians did you kill and destroy their home?
@@hixc2069 Not enough
Mission should be above human lives
Using existing MBT chassis is actually a pretty good idea. It makes financial sense, and makes maintenance and field repair easier.
"Financial sense" in the same sentence as with "MBT" should never happen. Wheeled APC work and cost a fraction of the cost of anything referring to maintenance
Most mbts have the engine in the back. Converting them would be a too expensive total makeover...
@@factsnotfeelings4901 Israel IS working on wheeled options
I suggested this years ago, but issue is that its rather rare for military to swap their MBT's other than upgrading same platform until it simply cannot be upgraded so there isint many chassis around to convert. Other thing is the engine and gearbox placement that makes it difficult for other MBT's. Also there is plenty of IFV and troop transport option already out there that are cheaper and more cost effective. As mentioned Israel has its specific needs but more relay on heavy vehicles against infantry in ambush etc, while other militaries relay on infantry being outside supporting the vehicles and vise versa. Its so different fighting method that it makes no sense anyone but Israelis to do. Also other countries dont have USA as sugardaddy drowning them in US taxpayers money, with small hats having infiltrated US government to make sure they shill for Israel...
@@factsnotfeelings4901lol you're so delusional
Infantryman: we need a new IFV
IDF: we have an IFV at home
IFV at home: *a tank*
Dude: We need an ifv
Toronto: We have an ifv at home
The ifv at home: Armored ttc bus with chlorine gas stored in soda cans and molotovs that are picked up by $50 drones and mounted mp5 and scoped hunting rifles on the windows
The Merkava IV is one of my favorite tanks ever fielded. It's main gun is a beast.
Same gun as on the M1A1 and Leo 2(up to 2A5, 2A6 onwards is upgunned). There are more powerful tank guns out there
The IDF are very practical and innovative.
@GreeezeedPiig- No, the IDF does its utmost to avoid killing women and children. However, the Palestinian terrorists do their utmost to deliberately murder unarmed Israeli women and children. Whenever Arab women or children get killed in Israeli retaliatory attacks, it is due to the Palestinian terrorists using their own civilian population as human shields.
Excellent review of the IDF's armored weapons. You hit the nail on the head with your statement that each soldiers life is precious... Good program. Well presented.
Say what you want about Israel, but they always come up with some interesting things for their armed forces. 💯😀
Gotta have new equipment to murder women and children with...
but still get owned by lebanese snipers
Without mortgaging the farm to do it.
Like Epsteins Island.
Because at the end of the day, the only ones that Israel can count on is Israel.
When things are tough adaption and Improvising is what makes or breaks a military especially if you’re a underdog or outnumbered vs numerous rivals armed with anti tank weapons or rockets and mortars that trophy system is quite cool
Israel isn't an underdog lol
@@alexdunphy3716 that's debatable, against Iran, and everyone else together? What certainly isn't debatable is that for a very long time, we were.
only an underdog when the US funding ceases...
@@__prometheus__ US Funding didn't start until the 80s, and even today it is still very much over estimated.
@00 00 ehh that’s true but for clear open places and fields it’s quite different I’d say it’s like Ukraine with towns cities being fought in and GPS and Drones being used a semi gurrila warfare war is ever changing that’s forsure and homefield advantage helps a lot
I love these videos on foreign military equipment. Often I don't know much about them and your presentation is really detailed.
I served in the Israeli Armored Corps in the Merkava III - one of the best tanks ever made!
thank you for your service
Many people cry that the tank became obsolete, but boy are they scary when they are looking for you (even in training exercises).
i thought you were a medic
@@Victor-g he just said he served in the armor corps and that the tank is awesome, not that he drove one. The Merkava tanks were converted into armored ambulances and were used by medics so its possible and plausible he was a medic in a Merkava. Israel is one of the few countries to used armed ambulances and tank ambulances due to the fact their enemies almost universally dont respect the laws of war and target medical vehicles regardless of red cross or red crescent markings.
עם ישראל חי. I like your channel
Awesome to see this video, just had my first week of training with the NAMER. It's a amazing feeling to get back into this machine after running around in the heat of the desert and go into the air-conditioned NAMER. GOD IS GREAT.
🤐
in addition to the Namer (Leopard) in 2020 the IDF started the integration of the 8x8 Eitan (Steadfast) APC capable of mounting a 30mm autocannon turret as an IFV or just a RWS .50/mk19. as for the video, some mistakes: the first tank chassis apcs were retired centurions (Sho'ts in IDF service) converted to Nagmashot/nagmachon (combat engineer version)/nakpadon (uparmored)/puma (uparmored engineering) heavy APCs. in addition some T-55s captured during 1967 and '73 were converted to Achzarit (cruel girl) heavy APCs. the engine was already different due to them being upgraded to tiran 4/5s before being turned to achzarit APCs. so it wasnt during 1948 war and it wasnt a T-45 soviet prototype.
'Cruel girl'?? 😂 Badass!
@@thespalek1 its just "cruel"(feminine)
@@AnimalMother207 so Cruella
@@AnimalMother207 ..Stil badass! 😀
@@gabrielandradeferraz386 😂👍
You have some of the best insights into the IDF and Israeli tech - you even get the naming of things correct, great job!!
He failed to mention the crimes of IDF
His pronunciations were terrible. Especially with the "Achzarit". Though I don't hold it against him.
@@mohahdgdg Only a criminal himself would make a statement like that with no grounds.
@@dl6860 No grounds yet your the one who belives every word that shitfest Israel say. they claim to be "a jewish state" yet one of the first amendments in the Torah is "do not kill". Maybe you should set your grounds first before assuming I'm just some biased Palestinian boy who has nothing to lose.
USS Cole
😂😂 I just love that guys enthusiasm when the tank climbs out of the ditch where he punches the air 😂
THE best IFV for sure! And the Merkava in my opinion is THE best looking MBT ever! This angled turret looks so futuristic , I know looks don’t matter but man it’s cool looking and this IFV also the best looking IFV I’ve seen but amazing in its duty , wish we could employ it but understand the weight issue.
Yeah, 60 tons is like two Bradleys. Very hard to transport that anywhere quickly. C-5s and C-17s can only carry one MBT each and it really cuts their flight range with that much weight, they can usually fit 2-3 Bradleys for the same range. And transport by ship takes ages. Then ground transport outside of deployment zone a 60t IFV would require a tank transporter, while a Bradley can be transported by a regular semi truck, and a tank transporter can haul 2-3 bradleys but only one MBT (and 60t IFV is basically an MBT).
From an old former infantryman and a tanker, good 👍 job Cappy!
They've also developed the Eitan IFV, a Stryker-like vehicle. Much lighter than the Namer.
I think those are supposed to enter service pretty soon.
It's still similar to the boxer which is a comparably heavy ifv
Much lighter than a tank heavier than a standard boxer apc,boxer 32 tons eitan 36 to 38 tons
Reinforces lol. The eitan is huge. Its actually night than a boxer. We have strykers because they are the perfect size to deliver by transport aircraft.
Correct but there's another major difference. Namer and Merkava cannot ride on roads because their treads will ruin them and shut down the traffic and economy. Tanks and APCs need carriers, in Israel, to travel long distances.
But Eitan can quickly be transported to front lines using wheels.
The Nakhal brigade will get the Eitan and that fits their designation as medium weight infantry which is highly mobile (The Tzankhanim paratroopers are considered light weight infantry and they use lighter vehicles, not APCs)
I would not be surprised to see the Kfir brigade getting the Eitan as well, for the same reasons.
Golani and Givaati on the other hands were always considered heavy mech infantry (both had Akhzarit before the Namer)
TANK you for uploading today :)
I speak for all Task & Purpose viewers when I say that I'm glad Cappy didn't kick the wrong IED.
The merkava is an awesome tank and scary looking from the front, I always thought the merkava was so futuristic looking and with those chains hanging down on the back of the turret made it look like something out of road warrior 🤔
The chains look so ornamental but it serves to stop RPGs
@Greeszed Pig laughable!
This is the world's BEST IFV hands down no question. I am continually astounded that other militaries take so long to understand the innovative edge that Israel has on the regular. The Israelis asked an extremely fundamental question, "Why not have an IFV with the armor of an MBT?" The answer = the Namer. The logic of streamlining production into only one chassis is also very apparent. Why have a vehicle (IFV) full of your soldiers, and not armor it as much as your tanks? The intuitive nature of this solution is still not being adopted by any other major powers and is a massive industry-wide oversight. Additionally, the morale boost of having your military put the soldiers' lives first above all else cannot be overstated. As armored as a tank + the trophy active defense system makes the Namer #1 in the world for IFV's without a doubt. As an American, I hope our military realizes this and it doesn't take thousands of our men and women dead to make them wake up to this fact. Lastly, I believe the American strategic thinking revolved around copying what the Russians did with the first iteration of the BMP. When the BMP first arrived on the scene we had no counterpart similar to it. In the rush to balance this gap, the US rushed to copy the Russians. The flaw here has always been copying the Russians without realizing the BMP was developed alongside their fighting doctrine, that is, soldiers' lives aren't important. The Russians don't need to armor their IFVs for additional cost and manufacturing time, they need to pressure the enemy with as many soldiers as possible as fast as they can. The Russians don't really care how many of their troops die as long as they win. This critical strategic flaw has continued to all other IFVs that came after until the Namer. The goal of any IFVs in ANY western country should be to get your troops to the battlefield "as safely as possible." That is (or should be) our fighting doctrine. Israel is the only country exemplifying it.
Exactly, Israel's doctrine is basically this - it's better to have 4 very well protected and more expensive APCs/IFVs, than 8 cheaper, blown up IFVs/APCs.
Any military going solely for numbers is led by idiots. The war in Ukraine has shown us that APS are a must, even if it means costing one million dollars more per frontline vehicle. It's way better to have smaller armored formations equipped with APS than bigger armored formations without.
The issue is Israel doesn’t do overseas deployments, the US has to consider how it’s going to move thousands of heavy vehicles all over the globe
It doesn’t really make manufacturing that much more efficient, as a matter of fact it actually gets in the way somewhat of the production of both the Namer and the Merkavah. Israel doesn’t have the infrastructure or space to just build more factories, so the production of the Namer has essentially made the production of both of them slower, because they have to share limited resources and labor. As such, while the Golani and Givati brigades have more or less received their full complements of IFVs, the support and engineering versions of the Namer that are intended to go into wider use have been very, very slow to come into service.
@@BenyKarachunmy contention is that Israels doctrine should be what all the west uses as well. We care about our soldiers.
Well said
Big fan from Israel! Saw one of these beauties being transported on a truck at night very cool
I am from Israel, and a few Years ago I closed the door of an APC on my head during a showcase of Military Equipment in Independence Day, love from Israel
hahaha good on you for admiting it!
@@rnchill3536 this happened when I was 9 year old, and I tend to tell people about it
@@PotatoBoy44 lol how old are you now?
@@rnchill3536 that was about 6 years ago
Interesting design. It might not be able to be sent to other nations but it serves its purpose protecting what it needs to protect. That pop up missile launcher system is honestly something that would be interesting to see on a version of the Stryker with Javelin missiles being used.
Spike is basically improved Javelin.
Javelin penetrates a bit less but travels further (both standard versions not accounting for ER versions)
@@MrDJAK777 Spike has many versions from low range/high pen to extremely high range (over 30km) usually carried by tanks or heli.
@@itzikashemtov6045 literally stated I was just comparing standard non ER versions. And thought it was clear man/ground launched. They both have a bunch of different variants.
Designs that go internally do limit future concepts, because youve introduced a wall by fixed dimentions, a rotary system might be better but obviously that creates a vulnerability to airborne toxins, i guess as long as you can get your shot out fast enough its all ok😊
It's a common thing: don't ask if the tool is good, ask if it is adapted to the task at hand.
And that is the entire operating philosophy of the IDF. Everything they use is optimized for their situation. They don't fight wars 10,000mi from home so don't need something light enough to fit in a plane. They don't have a large pool to recruit from and that pool is shrinking (ultra-orthodox settlement dwellers are exempt from mandatory service, which is a major political issue in Israel) so protection for troops is paramount
hi, IDF tanker here, small correction. the namer is a Mark 3 chassis not a mark 4 chassis, you could tell by the more wavy tank treads instead of discarding the mark 3 the idf turned the leftovers into an APC
, also little cool fact, it has a stretcher attachment that you could treat wounded inside the APC during combat
Correct, you could also tell by the 1200HP engine. Merkava Mk4 have 1500HP engines.
Murderer.
Servered I’m these for 2 years, the ac and water cooler were great but there’s definitely no toilet inside, one cool thing about these is they have a “trunk” for your bags/equipment so you don’t have to sit on it
I think exactly the same thing - the shots from inside show that you actually Cannot move inside what happens to using the toilet! ;)
Dang bro. You've been pumping out the content lately! Great work as always, sir!
Back in 4th edition 40K had a friend that ran Orks. He had a Looted Land Raider that he liked to show to Space Maine players. He would open up the front ramp to point out the gretchin on a toilet shitting on the machine spirit to keep it in line.
WAAAAAAAAGH
The Namer is what an APC should be: hard to kill yet but lightly armed, making it a non-priority target for the enemy's heavy weapons. The inherent flaw of the IFV concept is that you have a vehicle with the offensive threat of a tank and thus it warrants the same amount of effort to destroy, yet it's much easier to kill and is also carrying troops. You want a dedicated heavily armored but lightly armed APC, so the enemy won't waste their limited supply of heavy weapons on it.
@7:18 I really like the CBO analysis here. no sarcasm! The table was very insightful
As a former Australian tank soldier, I was always of the opinion that we could and probably should have gone for the Merkva tank, instead of the Abrams, because of its intriguing design and ability to carry a half section of troops, which could provide area security, freeing up the crew to perform maintenance.
This is because, during my time, 1st Armoured Regiment and tanks weren't well integrated with the rest of the Army, and we rarely worked alongside infantry and when we did, they were too scared of the vehicle to be effective.
I love the look of the Namer, because of the simple fact that infantry need to accompany tanks and man portable systems, are, as you say, becoming increasingly deadly to even the heaviest armour.
Mind you, as the Russians have discovered, in war, Logistics is King and without fuel, even the mightiest armour is just begging to be farmer fodder. So, given that the US does logistics very well, I would say that this vehicle, or something similar is a perfect option for the United States. Australia, with our vast empty spaces? Probably less so.
It will be very interesting to see how this vehicle develops and where the future of armour goes after the lessons of the war in Ukraine are digested.
Merkava is the ultimate evac unit.
@@CorePathway I agree. It was actually the medivac tank that originally grabbed my attention, as I recall seeing one on the news and thought it a damned good idea, given that during my service we used the M113 for this purpose and it really isn't suited, both in terms of protection and comfort for the injured troops.
The Merkava tanks and the Namer would serve the Australians and Americans well, Bec the tank was designed for desert. And your country and mine have loads of desert. I have to say, good observation Herr Rose. :D
Hi, fellow tanker here - from US 2nd Armored Division. Do you think the weight of the Namer would be a hindrance in operations in your country? Not sure what the likely battle terrain is like in Australia.
About carrying infantry in the tank, I'm not so sure that would be a great idea. For long deployments, it's already a PITA to have just 4 guys in the vehicle. I can't imagine having twice as many. Also, having to be the chauffer for a bunch of crunchies means you can't just move out when needed - leaving them behind. At some point you'll need to pick them up. I've been in a few deployments and most of the time, you need infantry to do infantry stuff and tanks to do tank stuff, working together in coordination is optimal, but combining the two organically seems like a recipe for degraded performance in the key role of both. What do you think?
@@firelock9080 I think it’s a mute point because the Merkava tank carrying troops is a misconception. A Merkava with its ammunition stripped (except for the ready rack) could carry maybe half a squad of soldiers. A Merkava with its ammunition can still can a wounded soldier in the back, but not much else.
However Merkava tanks integrate well with infantry units, so they operate really well in conjunction with namer APCs.
NAMER is pronounced: "Nah-mare"
Israelis write names in english without considering the rules of pronunciation of English.
so Namer is just the letters נמר with the minimal amount of vowels (that doesn't exist in hebrew)
or just read it as if it was Spanish... that will mostly work... (so Achzarit would be "Ajzarit")
Still not sure how he got "Na-meer", though.
And my ears! I just heard him saying "Az-chree-at"...😆
He seriously needs a coach for foreign language words when making these videos.
And "Nag-mesh"...
His Hebrew pronunciation is making me sad... 😢
@@ronmaximilian6953 thing is...not only did he not pronounce the 'כ' ('chaf', not 'ח' 'chet') of 'אכזרית' correctly, which is much more forgivable, he somehow moved the 'z' in front of it.
If he'd said "Ak-za-reet", one wouldn't blink an eye. Instead he managed to butcher the word, lol.
@@ronmaximilian6953 s'okay...most people don't make any distinction between the letters anyway (even though there is one), so it's easy enough to get them mixed up.
Hey, I’m impressed that he was in the ballpark. Maybe I’m just jaded by overseas colleagues butchering Israeli coworker first names NO MATTER HOW MANY YEARS we repeat the names correctly constantly on Zoom meetings each week.
They are not weird, simply they are really good.
You just gave me goosebumps when i wasnt expecting. A childhood friend of mine died in the first m113 explosion at may 11th 2004. RIP, and will always remember you.
Namer commander here
Have to say ,we are absolutely in love with that APC . Amazing specs and strength Higley comfortable for the soldiers and awesome tech inside.
I’d feel pretty safe in it knowing that it could survive an NLAW and javelin hit.
To be fair to the M113, it was never designed for combat operations. It was/is a battle taxi to get troops to the front line, then hightail it back to the rear echelon.
Which is still a suicidal concept in the era of attack helicopters. Most of it's underpinnings were WW2 era.
@@harveywallbanger3123 Nothing is proof against a Hellfire or Ataka lol. Not even tanks.
Beggers can't be choosers. The US gave them to us, and we had nothing else then. The sad thing is that the US was only willing to give the M113 to us, nothing else, which forced us to come up with our solutions. In the long run, this is better, though, because when you make things in-house, you are less reliant on others, and the money stays in your economy. If you pay $2 million for an American unit, you pay 2 million dollars; if you pay 3 million dollars for an Israeli unit, you have dozens of companies and contractors and tens of thousands of Israelis paying back taxes.
In what war was that a good tactic?
@@brahmdorst5154 Amen. As if aircraft didn't exist. Even a single 20mm shell would make mincemeat of an M113 from above.
As a soilder in the idf in the golani brigade (who use the namer)
1. I've never seen or heard about toilet in the namer, I dont know what your scorcese but...
2. The Achzarit was built from arabs t55 which we captured in 1967 six day war. (not t45 from 1948 war) The fact is the Achzarit get to service only in the 70's
@@thotslayer9914 no
@@thotslayer9914 Why would anyone leave Israel? It's an amazing country.
@@thotslayer9914 That's your assumption? 😂Maybe you shouldn't be so narrow-minded.
@@thotslayer9914 Israel is not as religious as you think. I am Israeli and I'm agnostic, and Tel Aviv is pretty much an anti-religious city.
@@rigelbound6749 compare that to the 90-95% religious affiliation we see in most Arab countries, it's easy to see why the core concepts of freedom of beliefs don't sink in quite as well as we would hope for those who think Israel's ultra religious or something lol
3 corrections:
1. It's pronounced na-mer, no na-mir...
2. The Namer is actually based on Merkava 4.
3. There's another APC in production, the Eitan (steadfast). It's wheeled and less protected, but still more protected and heavier than the Stryker.
I drove on that prototype back in the army with the electric torret.
This thing is a beast without speed limiter it can go 90 Km/h offroad !!
And this vehicle protection ability is unbelievable
Murderer.
The APC that you see at 5:05 is specifically fitted for combat engineers and is called Namera, where the "A" at the end stands for "Handasa", which means engineering
Namera (נמר"ה) is just CEV version of Namer
oops, they did not capture a T-45 and converted it. They captured many T-54 and converted some to the Achzarit
"Most survivable, best protected" i seem to hear those often about Israeli armor
Idea for Cappy: Could you do a video on the Armed forces of Moldova, their equipment, history, and stuff like that, and if they are capable in a war against Russia since a couple months back there was plans of invading Moldova. Basically, and analysis on Moldova's combat readiness similar to the Lebanese army video. Apparently, the unrecognized breakaway state Transnistria has a somewhat better army then Moldova but it's mostly Soviet equipment.
That would be very interesting I second this
agree
From what I understand, Romania and Ukraine won't let anything happen to Moldova. Transnistria is done, finished, and they know it. From the news Moldova is getting some training and maybe equipment from Romania, so things might be changing.
@@tech477 Hear hear... Romania is in NATO and the transnistrian troops afaik are regular Russian army troops. I'd be surprised if those around 1500 were to use the major arsenal to attack Ukraine at this point, but Romania getting involved? I don't really see that... but that's just my hunch, you might have much better sources.
It would be a very short video: is Moldova ready for war? No, thank you for watching, and thank you to our sponsors." lmao
Simply judging on looks, I absolutely love the look of the Merkavas and the Namer. They look futuristic and quite sleek, but sort of gritty at the same time.
Looks like something I can see in Halo. Kinda wish America would buy these IFVs/APCs...
Merkava is exactly what I imagine when i think "tank" I mean even a kid's drawing of a sillhouete of a tank would look like it. It's definetly a tank haha
@@commanderhurst3283 Namer would be very difficult to transport. Mobility is a huge concern for the US military because we mostly fight on the other side of the planet. Israel doesn't have to transport the Namer 10,000mi to the front line, and they don't have to transport the logistics train the Namer needs that same distance.
In WWII, Canada took a series of tanks such as Sherman and their own Rams, and converted them into Armored Personnel Carriers by removing the turrets, ammunition racks and putting seats for troops. They called them Kangaroos
1:40 I very much doubt that they removed an 8.5 ton turret from a T-45 (which is also pictured there), which only weights 7 tons total. The Achzarit is based on the much bigger T-55, which is around 35-40 tons.
T-45 is prototype of T-70 light tank from ww2, but there is no data about Arabic countries getting Soviet equipment in that period. In six day war yes, Israeli made APCs from T54 tanks
I’ve come to like Israeli armor. Combined arms gets the job done. Having rows of APC’s in a perpetual traffic jam is insane (*cough* Russia) and columns of tanks are big, heavy and can’t sweep and hold territory.
Sure but they don't use there equipment in multi theatre. It's designed well for its local environment. But not designed to be airlifted into every continent of the globe.
Their heavy equipment and especially merkava is useless in any other situation than fighting low tech troops with its 105mm gun and so-so armoring. My ex-gf was IDF
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti just because someone served in the idf it does't automatically make them an expert in armored combat
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti The Merkava has a 120mm gun from MK3 onward, basically on all models in current use, you "expert". I also personally served in the IDF btw, so what?
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti looked at your picture how did you even get a gf
We've always admired how Israelis keep their equipment up to date. Our active protection system was first tested circa 1983, but never saw combat. Even today we don't have much if Arenas on our armor.
Which country?
@@RK-cj4oc he's from Russ obviously...
You don't have arenas. It was and is a prototype.
Thanks for this comprehensive look. Here's some info on how to properly pronounce all those Hebrew names and acronyms...
Namer AFV - Nah•Mehr
Nagmash - (acronym for APC) Nahg•Mahsh
Merkavah MBT - ("chariot") Mehr•Kah•Vah
Achzarit APC - ("cruel," wish we had had them in '82) Ahx•Zah•Reet
Thank you for this video, sending my love from Israel, God bless America.
In assymetrical warfare, conventional forces are vulnerable to attacks from all directions. Hence the need for a well armored APC.
You really should do a video about the idf armored d9 and how they use it
Who needs CQB when you can make a parking lot lol
9:30 If you continue reading on that; it mentions the IFV soldiers didn't even realize trophy system had activated and defended them. It was that effective. They didn't even realize it was deployed until back to base and saw the entire side of that tank black from soot hahah.
Wow that is impressive
If the testimony is real.
Makes no sense, Trophy warns the crew when activated and informs of their direction, in later versions (might be even true for 2014) it automatically moves the turret towards the location of fire
@@BenyKarachun Maybe early versions that were hull mounted? Who knows
Dude, you are on top of the game. I love your videos because you know your content and facts. Thanks for being here.
6:35 “kicked the wrong I.E.D..”, hahah I love this version of,”kicking the bucket.”
Nice analysis! That's from an Israeli tank platoon commander ;)
איך מקבלים מיון למסלול בז
Incredible Merkavá Tank, Very Elegant Military Carriage From Spectacular State Of Israel, Wonderful Modern Tank From Fantastic Tsazal, Traditional Army Of State Of Israel.
I really like the emphasis of israeli tank design on survivability.
I was RWS gunner in Afghanistan back in 2009, it definitely feels like a video game when you're using it
Local Israeli Here, To be honest, I didn't even know this facts. Thank you.
Israel surrounded by enemy Arab countries has to be very innovative with its inventions and technologies to safe itself from being annihilated! Super TECH from 🇮🇱
Hi
Last sentence with a tears 😅
Thanks for serving btw, Im in Israel only for a few month, so I don't dare to write in Hebrew, but hopefully, going to the army in the next year will help me learning this language
נראה לי הוצאת כאן סודות מדינה
@@tFighterPilot ואללה יש מצב 😂
@@СтаниславКлери good luck , it will surely help with the language
Lucky you. I had the achzarit. It was good for it's time.
Very interesting and informative video on the best protection for soldiers, regardless of cost!
Israel values the lives of its military personnel and goes to unequalled lengths to protect them.
A military doing anything less is doing a disservice to its personnel.
Well said!
In 94-99 I Used to work on the Merkava Mk3 that was Fun! The Best Part was Figuring Out What Works Best!
"Kicked the wrong IED" implies there's a right IED you went around kicking...I can believe it.
I like the look of IDFs Tanks and this IFV.
Namer is upgraded to IFV role from APC by upgunning with unmanned 30mm turret while its previous role of APC is to be filled with a medium weight wheeled APC Eitian which is mrap rated.
Above MRAP its more like a bradly when it comes to protection
Edit: it can survive 30mm APDS (same one the BMP-2 is using) all around besides the back
The Merkava and therefore the Namer is wider than 3.5 meter so you can not transport it by rail and 3.5 meter is also the max width for wide road loads.
Notice how tanks and self propelled guns, the falcon 9 rocket the shuttle SRB all is 3.5 meter wide.
The paperwork and pain transporting something 3.7 meter wide is lots more.
Abrams: 3.66m / 12ft width
Bradley: 3.6m / 12ft
Leopard 2: 3.76m width
Puma IFV: 4m width (full armor)
Merkava: 3.72 m or 12.2 ft (excl. skirts)
Are you just talking about U.S regulations?
Gotta love when Arma 3 footage appears in the news because it is always funny.
I’m always fascinated by your knowledge and research. I’m a huge fan
Infantry warfare is becoming more technical and information technology intensive every day. Requiring more and more technical knowledge/input from every squad member. All while force personnel numbers have been savagely reduced through cutbacks and mechanisation. In all armies, the value of and investment is each soldier has increased steadily along with their difficulty of replacing from an equally well trained reserve. Therefore crew and passenger protection is of paramount importance, for everyone!
Excellent points!
While being true, LCS already demonstrated fallacy of extreme undermanning. Remember that 90% or so of time is NOT fighting but doing BAU work to keep unit in fighting trim. Fail at that and battle is lost before shooting starts. With too low numbers and too many duties, troops will get too fatigued.
@@piotrd.4850 What is BAU???
Not sure about the wisdom of cramming 11 people up in 1 vehicle. That makes it a priority target, and any enemy will quickly learn to defeat the armor.
@@Bob_Adkins Simply venturing into a combat zone can have severe health consequence.
Oof... That certainly didn't age well, lmfao 🤭🤣
That Namer missile system looks like something Ironman would use -
That's what the Predator had on his shoulder, but he missed the Governator!
Thanks for this video and all your content. I'll be happy to help with Hebrew words in the future... 😊
Thank you for your post. I really enjoy them. I don’t know how you got this job. But I’m glad you did. You really fit this program. That you are so knowledgeable is very cool. I am really into UA-cam. As I scroll through the videos I find that I get a lot of knowledge dropped on me. You are so good at this, thank you for what you do.
Nothing 'strikes fear' into those
who have nothing to lose
The only IFV that is better armored than most tanks. Insane.
Than all tanks*
@@BenyKarachun That statement is so so wrong
@@residentidiocracy7342 No it isn't, imagine taking a tank, removing the turret and reinvesting all of that saved weight into a more armored hull. That's what the Namer is.
The Merkava was already kind of a weird tank APC hybrid. There aren’t really any other tanks out there with a passenger compartment and rear hatch.
Hahahaha i love the Pronunciation of the hebrew words its just comady gold i love u man, thanks for the vod on my army
I like the use of the term “ghetto rig” when referring to high end heavy military equipment😂
Huge fan of Israeli defense industry
Merkava tank is already a troop transport 😎
Before watching this video I thought this veichle was a victional veichle from the game Arma 3... It looks too much futuristic... I'm happy That is real!!! Because it looks awesome!!!!
You know it being in US service in Arma isn't that far fetched considering the US was looking at it as a potential replacement
@@skulldozer1462 i hope my coutry buy it too...
@@kingsman4628 if it fits your country's doctrine 'cause this thing is an actual tank
@@skulldozer1462 i think my country will be more worried by the cost...😂
@@kingsman4628 probably
As usual, your analysis beats anything put out by the Pentagon drones and media pencil necks. In addition, your sarcastic humor makes videos very entertaining.
Semper Fi doggie grunt.