its odd because in the EU server there is alot of control warrior and control paladin. Zoo ofcourse is here and there but this hunter is extremely rare and usualy stomped by my paladin control deck
Undertaker should only get attack from the buff. Or something. Definitely not both Attack and HP. Or cost more. Or have a drawback like 'Your minions without Deathrattle cost (1) more.' No other similar card has this much value when you use its ability. Lightwarden is highly specific and doesn't gain HP, Questing Adventurer has 'meh' stats by itself and costs more, Gruul is just too costly, Flesh Eating Ghoul doesn't gain HP, etc. The low cost, the buff to both Attack and HP, the fact that a minion with Deathrattle triggers it - which is really sticky and highly valuable by itself already- just makes it way too snowbally to not be looked at. When I play a deck with Undertaker and draw them early with Deathrattles combined, it's just a massacre. When I don't I struggle a lot more. Should be at least slightly indicative of the card's power.
Undertaker is identical to the Secretkeeper, just for deathrattles - which are both a lot more common in decks and puts a minion in play, so someone forgot to tell this to the designer. There's no chance this card won't get nerfed, undertaker + coin + one-cost deathrattle minion isn't hard to pull off as an opener but can pretty much win you the game.
Andrea Decker Thats why this game is pay2win, because lets be honest, nobody who plays 4 free can spend 700 gold for each Naxx floor, so you spend some real money just to win
I built my own mage deck with the cards that I have (not that many). I was able to beat handlock 5/5 times, i beat zoo 5/6 times, and the only deck I couldn't beat at all was deathrattle priest. My deck is mostly agro, but it has elements of midrange, and even control. I put sylvanas in for a little extra juice against the big control decks like control warlock and even ramp druid
I could never get the hang of playing warlock myself. Deciding when to take damage and draw, which cards to play for zoo, It's all a bit above my level of thought process.
not related but yesterday i played a turn 2 nat pagle and turn 3 coin and blessing of kings on him, ended up with a nice 4-8 with card draw on turn 3 can't think of many better turn 3's then that personally
Tried to ignore playing zoo cause I hate how op it is. I'm no pro player, in fact I've been stuck on rank 13/14 for a while with priest control and handlock. Changed to this deck and went on a winstreak from rank 14(4 stars) to rank 9 (5) where I lost to a mage control deck. I don't wanna play zoo, but it's pretty much the only way to counter all the other zoo and huntertakers while still being good against other decks.
UTH sucks now imo. You can combo it with Knife Juggler to fling some random knives, which is okay, but nowhere near as good as Buzzard was, or you can combo it with the Scavenging Hyena, which doesn't work that well in constructed because every deck has removal for the Hyena. It's nothing like in arena where the Hyena just wins the game for you.
Sounds like a great idea! I would love a card similar to BGH/Blood Knight/Acidic Swamp Ooze that dealt with secrets. Something like a 2 mana 3/2 with battlecry 'destroy all secrets, gain +2/+1 for each secret destroyed.
blyjd91 If a class gets one/two of their more popular cards nerfed to the ground and its still one of the strongest classes around it goes to show how overpowered it was/is
I don't get the way some people play Aggro Hunter. If supposed to be an aggressive deck, why does it involve control-like properties? Shouldn't it be a "30 to 0 as fast as possible" type of gameplay?
Even if you're rushing someone's face, you need a certain momentum to be able to get there before the opponent gets too much board control and swings back. If you see a favorable trade, you should probably take it.
Why does everyone play zombie chow? that card saved me so many times when the opponent played it. I understand it works well for priest but for the other classes :/
The point of Zombie Chow is to buff the Undertaker with something that can survive for a while to secure the board. I think Trump overestimates it, but it's still good in a deck where the healing won't usually matter.
I don't understand it either, that card is too inconsistent, and probably you won't get it early to make good use of it. At least for me, it is far from being a top tier card.
NebulonBFrigateFTW Actually, the point is to shut down an opponent's early game. If even for a turn, but it can buff the Undertaker so there's that. Trump has stated, I'm pretty sure, that Zombie Chow is only good in the early game when healing doesn't matter. Or when you're a Priest to deal 5-10 damage burst. Late game, it's definitely a dead card unless you're that desperate to have a body out, or confident that your opponent can't kill it.
Epitaph of Gungnir Pretty sure the chow is great because it dominates early board when health and face damage is irrelevant. Most classes have to use decent clear or 2 cards to deal with it and securing the board on zoo is everything early
Personally Chow has won me more game than causing me to lose, but my friend have absolutely horrid experience with that card. He keep questioning me why my Chow perform so much better than his. I guess different players get different result from such controversial card, you either hate it or love it. It is a very good card in arena though, one of the best one drop in the game.
Trump questions the viability of hunters in a meta w/ zoo, but he wasn't paying attention to the donator complaining of control. Hunter has a better overall match vs many of the control decks, most notably handlock, thus it thrives.
I remember one time you said nozdormu was an awful card, and now you say it's good? what's the point? and if it is good why i never saw u use it in any decks? the point is: why do you think nozdormu effect is good?
it comes too late in the game for it's ability to do anything. time constraints don't matter when it's turn 9 and both players have two cards in their hand a good change would be to make it a 6 cost 5/5
I'm really sad. Now that I finally managed to get all cards for a proper control Warrior/Handlock deck everyone has caught on and the entire ladder has counter decks...Handlock used to be godlike, now it has subpar matchups against almost all popular decks. Warrior is average at best...
I know how you feel. I was waiting for a while for an opportunity to finally craft and play handlock. So I did, since pretty much every pro player said that after the hunter nerfs handlocks would be the new meta. And they were. For about a week...
H4mmerfall The meta is more rock-paper-scissors than ever...even Trump is basically trying to find the best deck to win against one or two classes. And slow Druid decks are suddenly completely unplayable (they get crushed by both hyper lategame and rush decks).
***** I'd even go as far as saying almost every slow deck is nearly unplayable. If your going ladder, the slowest deck you can play with some success is a mid-range shaman or priest deck.
You seem pretty burnt out Trump, you're constantly getting short with people when they ask questions. It's passive, and you think people don't notice, but they do. Take a vacation.
this meta is not fun at all, fuck undertaker, and i dont know about high ranks and legend but ranks 25-9 is full of hunters and mages with undertakers and traps, the only deck i was able to fully craft was handlock and that gets rekt by mage and hunter easily ofc i could play zoo to rank up but i find it BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING, it doesnt even feel like i am playing a class, just a bunch of low cost cards, at the start of Naxx the meta was really fun and full of control decks, the paladin vs handlock was my favorite, but then people were like "wait a minute undertaker is OP as fuck" i think that the point of Naxx was to nerf Aggro without nerfing cards, thats why they added so many mid range/control cards so if that is the case then Blizzard failed.
Luigi azevedo No, I didn't forget about those, they just don't matter. I could spend a lot of time explaining why but you made the assertion here and failed to back it up, it's your turn.
Albert Hoptrough it's bad at it's gimmick, because even when it's used neither player feels rushed. you get more than 15 seconds (despite what the description says) and it comes in the late game, so you have maybe 2 cards in your hand at that point, few options to even consider, and in that scenario "15" seconds is plenty
attackfighter Dude, you're taking the card way too seriously from a playability standpoint. It's a gimmick. The point is that it's meant to be VERY selective. It's not a bad card at all, some people do require a lot of time to think like Trump, and it DOES rush them to make a decision which can throw them off sometimes. It depends on the player. At the end of the day, it's still an 8/8 card. ANY high level card that can't be cleared effectively is such a massive threat when it's doing nearly 1/4th of your health each turn. You can have Molten Giants, but at the end of the day, it still gets cleared equally by Big Game Hunter, or other cards like Shadow Word Death. It suffers the same issue as any other high damage / HP card out there. The difference is, it comes with the most unique ability of any card that literally changes the mechanics of the game and forces you to think fast in a game that often requires a lot of strategy / time to think (for max value / effectiveness). No, Nozdormu is not a bad gimmick or even a bad card. It's very selective, but when used at the right time, it can be super effective. Instead of crapping on cards that aren't used often, try actually having an open mind about decks they can be played in. Having your outlook on the cards just makes the game shitty for everyone.
Oh man, the first game was pure gold. Two cancer decks making each other miserable with their horse shit. I wish Blizzard would make a game for those who are generally just shit in everything, including Hearthstone. All cancer decks like rush and zoo could just wrestle each other in horse shit, while the rest of us play with proper decks elsewhere.
why would they make ONE hero have a hero power that costs 1 more mana than the rest. Not to mention that will kill Warlock forever because you underestimate how much 1 mana even means. Leeroy is hardly used now because of that
fuckin sooo much aggro ladder isnt even fun anymore.... if i try anything with my control paladin i just get stomped out by the first 3 rounds. gg blizz...
hunter got too much tempo fighting for board control result to a low health minions and explosive trap destroy u if u ad on top of that a weapon, ice trap and some huges removals...well i dont see how u can win win the typical -board control- system sry for the bad english
I'm surprised this video has any views or likes the amount of people that moan at Trump all the time! And to think all the people that were backing trump when he made his cyber bullying a week or so back. Yet the comments are full of people knocking trump.....
i think im done with hearthstone until its been rebalanced properly.
Bye.
so basically never.
What does that even mean? If you mean that one class is dominating all of the others then you are simply wrong.
me too, i all i can do is watch hearthstone now
Warlock>All
14:05-14:53 That was a great bluff, for some reason you don't see much mindgames of this sort in HS.
Hunter still standing strong.
2spooky4me
Them deathrattle minions are too good! Free beasts, free secrets, free 2/2 hyenas. Plz Blizzard.
If a single class dominates the ladder like this even after the nerf, then there is a problem.
Trump is hearhstone god confirmed
just watch at 24:30 how he says: "hmmm" then the warlock hero does the same :O
its odd because in the EU server there is alot of control warrior and control paladin. Zoo ofcourse is here and there but this hunter is extremely rare and usualy stomped by my paladin control deck
What are u talking about , rank 20ish ? because rank 5 and under there is no paladin at all at lots of hunters.
Yeah, on EU every other game is hunter at rank 7?
im rank 3 was top 100 legend once
Why no ironbeak owl, it's efficient on zombie chow, or eventually power overwhelming or on big taunt like sludge belcher ?
Anyone know the decklist of all these aggro hunters?
At 11:13 can someone explain to me why the doomguard automatically resummoned?
Sorry 11:22
xero spacious when you click the card while is returning to your hand, that card it's resummon immediately
TheJeffrysama oh right thanks I just thought trump was a wizard
***** deferq dafuq
Undertaker should only get attack from the buff. Or something. Definitely not both Attack and HP. Or cost more. Or have a drawback like 'Your minions without Deathrattle cost (1) more.'
No other similar card has this much value when you use its ability. Lightwarden is highly specific and doesn't gain HP, Questing Adventurer has 'meh' stats by itself and costs more, Gruul is just too costly, Flesh Eating Ghoul doesn't gain HP, etc.
The low cost, the buff to both Attack and HP, the fact that a minion with Deathrattle triggers it - which is really sticky and highly valuable by itself already- just makes it way too snowbally to not be looked at. When I play a deck with Undertaker and draw them early with Deathrattles combined, it's just a massacre. When I don't I struggle a lot more. Should be at least slightly indicative of the card's power.
Undertaker is identical to the Secretkeeper, just for deathrattles - which are both a lot more common in decks and puts a minion in play, so someone forgot to tell this to the designer.
There's no chance this card won't get nerfed, undertaker + coin + one-cost deathrattle minion isn't hard to pull off as an opener but can pretty much win you the game.
Andrea Decker Oh yeah, forgot about her.
Making it a 1/1 or 0/1 could work aswell, that way it would need 2 deathrattle minions to make it worthwhile instead of 1.
Andrea Decker Thats why this game is pay2win, because lets be honest, nobody who plays 4 free can spend 700 gold for each Naxx floor, so you spend some real money just to win
Pentakill I did, so there goes that argument.
I built my own mage deck with the cards that I have (not that many). I was able to beat handlock 5/5 times, i beat zoo 5/6 times, and the only deck I couldn't beat at all was deathrattle priest. My deck is mostly agro, but it has elements of midrange, and even control. I put sylvanas in for a little extra juice against the big control decks like control warlock and even ramp druid
seems like the secrets definitely affect the hunter/zoo match up
What happened to the hunter being completely unplayable!?
Undertaker, the most powerful 1 drop in the game and that's buffed by already good aggro cards, happened. _Even zoo runs it now_.
NebulonBFrigateFTW Zoo was running Undertaker pretty much the day it came out.
What can I sub for undertaker and zombie chow?
I think, balance can be retribution if start HP every class will be increased.
Where to get Golden Naxx cards?
How do you get all these cards? card packs always give me copies of stuff i already have.
Let the hunt begin!
Why not replace Void Terror with Shattered Sun Cleric ?
YES more hearthstone!
Welcome to Trump.
I could never get the hang of playing warlock myself. Deciding when to take damage and draw, which cards to play for zoo, It's all a bit above my level of thought process.
not related but yesterday i played a turn 2 nat pagle and turn 3 coin and blessing of kings on him, ended up with a nice 4-8 with card draw on turn 3
can't think of many better turn 3's then that personally
Tried to ignore playing zoo cause I hate how op it is. I'm no pro player, in fact I've been stuck on rank 13/14 for a while with priest control and handlock. Changed to this deck and went on a winstreak from rank 14(4 stars) to rank 9 (5) where I lost to a mage control deck. I don't wanna play zoo, but it's pretty much the only way to counter all the other zoo and huntertakers while still being good against other decks.
trump please play town of salem, i started playing it after i saw ur vid and im addicted
Why wouldn't Ironbeak Owl work as a tech card against Undertaker?
Does Deathlock fall under the zoo category? Or is it distinguished from it? Just a question, as I've been working on my own for a bit.
It's Zoo if it runs a bunch of random shits that buff other shits, and you win the game with Doomguards.
remnant24 basically a zoolock that runs more deathrattle minons and is geared more towards face damage
***** yeh man I said that, didn't I? Last time I checked, shit is pretty sticky lol.
hi Trump
Wasn't unleash the hounds been nerfed to 5 mana?? Along with Leeroy?
No, buzzard was though. UTH is still 3 mana, buzzard now a 5 mana 3/2 (up from a 2 mana 2/1)
UTH sucks now imo. You can combo it with Knife Juggler to fling some random knives, which is okay, but nowhere near as good as Buzzard was, or you can combo it with the Scavenging Hyena, which doesn't work that well in constructed because every deck has removal for the Hyena. It's nothing like in arena where the Hyena just wins the game for you.
Is it just me, or do I only count 24 cards on the left?
my opinion add a minion with remove a secret buts can used for all classes :D
Sounds like a great idea! I would love a card similar to BGH/Blood Knight/Acidic Swamp Ooze that dealt with secrets.
Something like a 2 mana 3/2 with battlecry 'destroy all secrets, gain +2/+1 for each secret destroyed.
lkjkhfggd Thats actually a really good idea. In my opinion it should be epic.
lkjkhfggd goosh this is huge meta balance
I think hunter is actually more annoying then zoo
Agreed. I still have no idea how to conveniently kill Savannah Highmanes unless I'm a Mage or Shaman... Oh Tinkmaster, if only you weren't nerfed!
And people said hunter was dead. Hah!
blyjd91 If a class gets one/two of their more popular cards nerfed to the ground and its still one of the strongest classes around it goes to show how overpowered it was/is
Terrabreak133 the class has a hero power that doesn't affect the board, it's like all hunters are obligated to go for aggro decks, it isn't op
I don't get the way some people play Aggro Hunter. If supposed to be an aggressive deck, why does it involve control-like properties? Shouldn't it be a "30 to 0 as fast as possible" type of gameplay?
Even if you're rushing someone's face, you need a certain momentum to be able to get there before the opponent gets too much board control and swings back. If you see a favorable trade, you should probably take it.
Someone, create a deck with Nozdormu in it and face Trump. Let's see how he handles that.
Lol :)
I wonder if that was the 'real' Pooksie
Awww iiisss. Another 30 minutes goodness.
guys what is a good druid deck for free to play
Look up a ramp Druid, there are some low cost variants of it
Thank you
isn;t the removal of hell fire hurting trump here?
Why does everyone play zombie chow? that card saved me so many times when the opponent played it. I understand it works well for priest but for the other classes :/
The point of Zombie Chow is to buff the Undertaker with something that can survive for a while to secure the board. I think Trump overestimates it, but it's still good in a deck where the healing won't usually matter.
I don't understand it either, that card is too inconsistent, and probably you won't get it early to make good use of it. At least for me, it is far from being a top tier card.
NebulonBFrigateFTW Actually, the point is to shut down an opponent's early game. If even for a turn, but it can buff the Undertaker so there's that. Trump has stated, I'm pretty sure, that Zombie Chow is only good in the early game when healing doesn't matter. Or when you're a Priest to deal 5-10 damage burst. Late game, it's definitely a dead card unless you're that desperate to have a body out, or confident that your opponent can't kill it.
Epitaph of Gungnir Pretty sure the chow is great because it dominates early board when health and face damage is irrelevant. Most classes have to use decent clear or 2 cards to deal with it and securing the board on zoo is everything early
Personally Chow has won me more game than causing me to lose, but my friend have absolutely horrid experience with that card. He keep questioning me why my Chow perform so much better than his. I guess different players get different result from such controversial card, you either hate it or love it. It is a very good card in arena though, one of the best one drop in the game.
Says hunter is bad and wont be in the current meta, comes back, most played character in meta.
Buzzard unleash combo is bad not hunter itself.
Pooksie sighting @ 20:48
7:48 Enemy kept only one card, Trump said he kept all 3 O_O
Trump questions the viability of hunters in a meta w/ zoo, but he wasn't paying attention to the donator complaining of control. Hunter has a better overall match vs many of the control decks, most notably handlock, thus it thrives.
Make Soul Tap cost 3 mana? :D
No maybe make it so 3dmg but not 3mana
David Brodock 3 damege no its a very damege and will be not used very times
Arthur Ceron u can only use it like 4 times a game because 10 times kills u and u dont want to tap mor that 5 times
Make it draw at the end of the turn instead of when you instantly use it
JJ Fisher Yup, that's a good idea.
current meta : buy naxxramas
21:49 hey look is Pooksie ,our favorite "pornstar"
Trump did you know there's a reference to you in WOW now?
I think trumps should get totle biscuit and some of the yogscast and play some cardfight vangard
Yesterday I ran into 4 shaman bots in a row, it's getting really annoying
I remember one time you said nozdormu was an awful card, and now you say it's good? what's the point? and if it is good why i never saw u use it in any decks? the point is: why do you think nozdormu effect is good?
He didnt say its good.He said it was a fine card.
he said it had a fine design :D
it comes too late in the game for it's ability to do anything. time constraints don't matter when it's turn 9 and both players have two cards in their hand
a good change would be to make it a 6 cost 5/5
attackfighter Double innervate/coin anyone?
Tetsamaru 0/10 its too huge it will cost at least around 3 mana
I'm really sad. Now that I finally managed to get all cards for a proper control Warrior/Handlock deck everyone has caught on and the entire ladder has counter decks...Handlock used to be godlike, now it has subpar matchups against almost all popular decks. Warrior is average at best...
I know how you feel. I was waiting for a while for an opportunity to finally craft and play handlock. So I did, since pretty much every pro player said that after the hunter nerfs handlocks would be the new meta. And they were. For about a week...
H4mmerfall The meta is more rock-paper-scissors than ever...even Trump is basically trying to find the best deck to win against one or two classes. And slow Druid decks are suddenly completely unplayable (they get crushed by both hyper lategame and rush decks).
***** I'd even go as far as saying almost every slow deck is nearly unplayable. If your going ladder, the slowest deck you can play with some success is a mid-range shaman or priest deck.
I hate this meta with all the agros and zoos. They should make Knife Jugler 3 mana, it would tone them down abit.
You seem pretty burnt out Trump, you're constantly getting short with people when they ask questions. It's passive, and you think people don't notice, but they do. Take a vacation.
this meta is not fun at all, fuck undertaker, and i dont know about high ranks and legend but ranks 25-9 is full of hunters and mages with undertakers and traps, the only deck i was able to fully craft was handlock and that gets rekt by mage and hunter easily ofc i could play zoo to rank up but i find it BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING, it doesnt even feel like i am playing a class, just a bunch of low cost cards, at the start of Naxx the meta was really fun and full of control decks, the paladin vs handlock was my favorite, but then people were like "wait a minute undertaker is OP as fuck" i think that the point of Naxx was to nerf Aggro without nerfing cards, thats why they added so many mid range/control cards so if that is the case then Blizzard failed.
The point of Nax was to earn money, before nerfing all they have introduced. So they succeded.
You shouldn't have played the imp at the end there, you were too low, and he hadn't played any kill commands yet.
You can't fix a broken class by destroying 1 card... Oh well more cards to come later I'm sure, that should fix the problem :/
Is trump in blizzcon 😅😅😅
Aggro everywhere not just Zoo. Zoo not really even Aggro.
It's a control deck with good and cheap trading minions.. At least from what I understand
I should phrase that as "face aggro".
Mirza Ajanovic Zoo is a tempo deck
I really don't like to use Doomguard, i think Argent Command is much better.
Well Argent Commander usually dont stay alive for more than 2 turns, but Doomguard usually stays for 4-5 turns, because of the 7 health.
6 mana 4-2 vs 5 mana 5-7. Basic math disagrees with you.
Andrea Decker But you forgot two important things:
1º Doomguard discard two cards.
2º Argente Commander has Divine shield.
Luigi azevedo and you forgot that 1.Ya play him when you have empty hand or lose 1crappy card and 2.it has 7hp.
Luigi azevedo No, I didn't forget about those, they just don't matter. I could spend a lot of time explaining why but you made the assertion here and failed to back it up, it's your turn.
Trump ily but in what world is Nozdormu a fine card lol?
He isn't saying its a fine card in the sense that he will play it often, he means that it is designed well for its purpose. A gimmick card.
What he is saying is that the card was designed for a specific purpose. It isn't an extremely powerful card but it is "fine", it serves its purpose.
Noz is the trump counter
Albert Hoptrough
it's bad at it's gimmick, because even when it's used neither player feels rushed. you get more than 15 seconds (despite what the description says) and it comes in the late game, so you have maybe 2 cards in your hand at that point, few options to even consider, and in that scenario "15" seconds is plenty
attackfighter
Dude, you're taking the card way too seriously from a playability standpoint. It's a gimmick. The point is that it's meant to be VERY selective.
It's not a bad card at all, some people do require a lot of time to think like Trump, and it DOES rush them to make a decision which can throw them off sometimes. It depends on the player.
At the end of the day, it's still an 8/8 card. ANY high level card that can't be cleared effectively is such a massive threat when it's doing nearly 1/4th of your health each turn. You can have Molten Giants, but at the end of the day, it still gets cleared equally by Big Game Hunter, or other cards like Shadow Word Death.
It suffers the same issue as any other high damage / HP card out there. The difference is, it comes with the most unique ability of any card that literally changes the mechanics of the game and forces you to think fast in a game that often requires a lot of strategy / time to think (for max value / effectiveness).
No, Nozdormu is not a bad gimmick or even a bad card. It's very selective, but when used at the right time, it can be super effective. Instead of crapping on cards that aren't used often, try actually having an open mind about decks they can be played in. Having your outlook on the cards just makes the game shitty for everyone.
I can't put a like on that zoo video.
Oh man, the first game was pure gold. Two cancer decks making each other miserable with their horse shit. I wish Blizzard would make a game for those who are generally just shit in everything, including Hearthstone. All cancer decks like rush and zoo could just wrestle each other in horse shit, while the rest of us play with proper decks elsewhere.
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nice. =)
Soul tap shut be 3 mana
why would they make ONE hero have a hero power that costs 1 more mana than the rest. Not to mention that will kill Warlock forever because you underestimate how much 1 mana even means.
Leeroy is hardly used now because of that
it is the best zoo
24:32 hmmm :3
The writing of new subbers on the whiteboard seem pointless to me.
fuckin sooo much aggro ladder isnt even fun anymore.... if i try anything with my control paladin i just get stomped out by the first 3 rounds. gg blizz...
hunter got too much tempo
fighting for board control result to a low health minions and explosive trap destroy u
if u ad on top of that a weapon, ice trap and some huges removals...well
i dont see how u can win win the typical -board control- system
sry for the bad english
Exactly. Explosive trap for 2 mana is ridiculous. How the hell do I compete with that?
Ignore me; I has the dumb
Are you allowed to put trump on your friends lost? I know he doesn't want you talking while he is streaming.
Zombie Chow sucks... It almost always does more good for the opponent.
I'm surprised this video has any views or likes the amount of people that moan at Trump all the time! And to think all the people that were backing trump when he made his cyber bullying a week or so back. Yet the comments are full of people knocking trump.....
I see people knocking _Zoo_, not Trump.