Whatever the second user’s quirk is, is also supposed to be some kind of trump card. Haven’t seen it yet but it looks like it’s some kind of burst or blast since Deku was going to use it to enhance his speed but was stopped. Not to mention that the longer the fight goes, the more dangerous Deku is with Fa Jin allowing him to store up power for potential bursts of Faux 100%
@@bgill6623 Are we talking about the guy Deku is fighting because predating means nothing and I don’t know how strong the other guy is so please tell me where he scales to
This vid was made a year ago, current Che stomps deku with his new war state that his ability granted him. I mean the man is now a mortal turned god by sheer effort alone.
Not even kidding, hasn’t even been 5 seconds. I just finished reading a chapter of Ordeal, clicked onto UA-cam, immediately this. Feels kinda scary not gonna lie.
It's annoying that Che technically only has access to 95% of his power at full capacity, but that's neither here nor there. Deku definitely annihilates.
The problem isn't even the firepower, i think deku could still win if they both had 100% of their power considering that dekus is just too fucking versitile.
in my opinion, che wins tbh because he has more exp with fighting people with abilities before he was kimyo and deku doesn't have a healing factor so che can easily burn off his skin but he was right about how deku matched the intensity of flash fire first but I don't think flash fire fist is as strong as prominence burn because it hasn't been shown to burn todoroki skin( and ik you might say because it's his quirk he has a higher resistance to it but it can still burn him, plus todoroki just started to use his fire back then)I'll admit deku has better feats but che has better exp and knowledge and also I don't think it's fair to compare current che to current deku because che hasn't unlocked his full potential but same goes for deku tbh, also not to mention he single handle killed a kimyo that gets stronger the more blood he's exposed to at the opponents apex of power and this is when he just awakened his powers
@@Asura2030 deku was shown taking down villains like no ones business in his dark deku arc he was moving so fast that the hero's had trouble keeping up with him, when they found out where he is he already gone.
Probs because most of its characters don't have the same absurdity as other popular anime/manga as they progress. For example Naruto, where things went from the legendary tile shuriken jutsu in the early show to weapons of mass destruction in the war arc.
@@tnuoccaekafsi9808 That kinda happened in mha cuz Deku vs nine. He was able to vaporize a country sized storm in one attack and got many many times stronger from there
Sadly that was cut short by simply his classmates begging him to come back- after they more or less ignored the amount of pain he had been going through.
@@Argento_Wolf I wouldn't go that far. They acknowledged that he was going through some tough shit. They just recognized that he was on an unsustainable path of self destruction. Talking hadn't really worked.
@@MandatoryFruit but he was clearing out the bad guys faster than the heroes had actually done so. A war was happening and the heroes continued to hold to the “we can’t bring harm or kill these villains” ideals- which would put pressure on Deku to save the populace. Cause he was the only “hero” that was actively fighting against the villains with clear effects.
@@Argento_Wolf True but Deku was getting weaker and weaker by the day. If he kept on fighting, afo and his forces would’ve swooped in and take ofa and the entire world would be doomed
@@zemzem1238 weaker yes but even then when he went up against 1-a in his weakens state they couldn’t win, they even said that he was too strong for them.Personally I feel like it ended to quickly.
The fact is that Che didn’t have have powers before and was still a beast in the MMA ring was wild and the fact that he got his powers from his master after his is just bizarre
Che heart is like fighting Endeavor with stronger flames and someone who can use martial arts. Even before Che got his power from his teacher he can win fights against some of the kimyo
Hulk wins pretty easily We're talking about a monster that pulled 2 tectonic plates together vs a man who's at best destroying a few mountains in one attack. The scale here is so far in Hulk's favor he's sending Escanor flying literally
Idk if that’s true but we haven’t seen current Deku bloodlusted. When we did during the first war, he was causing one of the strongest characters in the verse to think of nothing but finding someway to survive
Season 2 Ordeal was a whole different beast, Che getting 100% of his power and the ability to still get stronger, plus some of the feats we’ve seen from comparable characters, may get him the dub over deku. But as of right now it’s prolly still Deku, Ronin Che however, well let’s just say Ima bet on him
People really underestimate deku it’s crazy. Dude has 6 different powers, 1 of which is a trump card we haven’t even seen yet. Smoke screen, danger sense (which is like spidey senses), flight, black whip, fa-jin (a power steroid which he can stack on top of OFA), OFA, and he is one of the smartest characters in the MHA verse. AND all of these powers are ENHANCED way above their initial state because First user Yoichi had the power to stockpile any power within his body. The longer they stay, the stronger they become. This is why 2nd users quirk is hinted to be extremely dangerous/situational, and why when each past quirk was unlocked, Deku had a harder and harder time controlling them. All this, and he is ONLY 16. He’s like gon, he has potential to be stupid OP in his prime adult years (shown in the anime), but he is held back by his age. And kid deku bodies adult gon, so just imagine him as an adult.
Ima gonna be honest as someone who read canvas before it became an original I feel like it will be much better fight when we get to where the canvas version was, and then past that as well.
@@zemzem1238 the problem is his fluctuating power, he can either scale to All Might and AFO for brief periods or goes down to relatively street to city block level. Current Izuku probably scales just under All Might near the end of his power, but compensates by having more abilities. At his 100% state, he could go against AFO Shigaraki who's physical power along was comparable to All Might and Gigantomachia who wrecked a mountain, whether that's Prime Might or not is dubious since even past his prime, he's easily city level still and was probably island level during his prime
@@saltyfishface4618 Ngl, Prime All Might being Island lvl is a extreme low ball. Other than the bad scaling(no offense), Shiggy is definitely Prime All Might lvl since Jeanist compared him to it and there’s no way he stayed the same lvl but they are somehow getting bodied worse. Tbh, with the current situation, Deku without Fa jin should be relative to Prime All Might and should be able to beat Prime All Might in a 1v1.
@@zemzem1238 you are most definitely high balling Izuku by even comparing him currently to prime All Might. Mind you even All Might past his prime could generate F5 tornadoes, change the weather, and tear up whole city blocks and Izuku has shown no feats comparable to that in his current manageable state. 100% maybe, but he hasn't even reached a point he can do that without strain outside Fa Jin, which are one off instances. All Might in his his prime is 60 times more powerful than he was after giving his power to Izuku and Izuku hasn't come close to that. Also fair enough in your assessment my scalings a bit wonky, because that effectively puts prime Might in country level in terms of destructiveness which Izuku has again, yet to even remotely come close to
@@saltyfishface4618 Did you read the second half of my comment? Like, their only chance against a character stronger than Prime All Might is Deku and the rest of them keep on saying that they need to wait for Deku and buy time for him to get there. They keep on exemplifying that Shigarakiis above Prime All Might and that Deku is the only way to beat this Shigaraki. If he could only barely damage him with Fa jin, then they’d definitely be dead since his strongest attack is barely gonna be damaging Shigaraki. The only way for it to make sense is that Deku is relative to Prime All Might and Fa Jin is a great amount above Prime All Might, otherwise, they all would’ve been dead in two seconds
Even tho I would have loved for che to win , I'm just happy ordeal even got here and it makes sense that deku wins . But I am really excited to see how strong che actually gets. He's supposed to surpass Leo and we saw a glimpse of the future where he seems to destroying the whole word or something
I have an oc just like this except he even has wings and can create and take over any existing fire and fire sub types such as lightning and lava or anything that even uses fire or plasma but I ramble on for too long button line is great video and great argument
Hey I love all of your videos I have a question to ask I can't ask in your best Opinion who do you think would win win in a fight Anubis King of the Underworld and the most powerful God in Egypt's mythology mythology versus Lord Barris the most powerful God of destruction destruction in dragon ball
I think this matchup would be more interesting if Che had more experience with his abilities. I’m sure as the series goes on, we’ll see more of how he incorporates ilios state into his combat and tactics, as well as his ruthlessness as a future villain. Maybe even blue flames?👀
Whatever the second user’s quirk is, is also supposed to be some kind of trump card. Haven’t seen it yet but it looks like it’s some kind of burst or blast since Deku was going to use it to enhance his speed but was stopped. Not to mention that the longer the fight goes, the more dangerous Deku is with Fa Jin allowing him to store up power for potential bursts of Faux 100%
I'm dying to know what it is. I'm hoping it's as op as it's being led up to be.
@@JohnDoe_Gaming It’s severely more op than the Base ofa which we know is one of the strongest powers in the series
@@zemzem1238 not only is ilios more powerful but it predates ofa.
@@bgill6623 Are we talking about the guy Deku is fighting because predating means nothing and I don’t know how strong the other guy is so please tell me where he scales to
The longer the Deku is on the battle field the stronger he will become.
Glad to see people talking about Ordeal, needs more love
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I agree
This vid was made a year ago, current Che stomps deku with his new war state that his ability granted him. I mean the man is now a mortal turned god by sheer effort alone.
Not even kidding, hasn’t even been 5 seconds. I just finished reading a chapter of Ordeal, clicked onto UA-cam, immediately this. Feels kinda scary not gonna lie.
I rather just pretend to be oblivious and blame it on Ordeal's growing popularity.
Bro the government watches everything we do. It’s not a Coincidence they knew u been reading that manga so they blessed you with a great short video
You ain't seen nothing yet, coincidentally talked about something out loud and when i came online there's an ad about it or video about it before
Also we still don't know Deku's final quirk. Which can be even more enhanced thanks to OFA
@@viewtifulcarl6717 it do be a big boom tho
@@viewtifulcarl6717 its basically like super saiyan. its gonna enhance his whole power. making him dozens of times stronger than 100% of OFA.
@@ImNeoFr Yeah, all we know is that it’ll be his strongest quirk by far
@@ImNeoFr i dont think so dince he already has fa jin which os kinda like a booster i think might be something about time manipulation
That’s why I stopped reading nah after starting at chapter 7. And reading every week. Zeku is dumb op. Just so boring man
It's annoying that Che technically only has access to 95% of his power at full capacity, but that's neither here nor there. Deku definitely annihilates.
The problem isn't even the firepower, i think deku could still win if they both had 100% of their power considering that dekus is just too fucking versitile.
in my opinion, che wins tbh because he has more exp with fighting people with abilities before he was kimyo and deku doesn't have a healing factor so che can easily burn off his skin but he was right about how deku matched the intensity of flash fire first but I don't think flash fire fist is as strong as prominence burn because it hasn't been shown to burn todoroki skin( and ik you might say because it's his quirk he has a higher resistance to it but it can still burn him, plus todoroki just started to use his fire back then)I'll admit deku has better feats but che has better exp and knowledge and also I don't think it's fair to compare current che to current deku because che hasn't unlocked his full potential but same goes for deku tbh, also not to mention he single handle killed a kimyo that gets stronger the more blood he's exposed to at the opponents apex of power and this is when he just awakened his powers
@@Asura2030 yet what about Dabi? Blue fire is obviously hotter than Chen's own flames
@@Asura2030 deku was shown taking down villains like no ones business in his dark deku arc he was moving so fast that the hero's had trouble keeping up with him, when they found out where he is he already gone.
@@fafnirthedragon2992 So that proves the point more.
Thank lord someone is talking about ordeal, it’s just so good the art style, the world, the abilities, god I love it all
NIce to see Ordeal get recgonised honestly should get an anime like GOH and TOG
You sure you want that!!!??
@@siyasithole7995 yea why not
But not by crunchyroll by an actual good studio
Both animes sucks bro wdym they are terrible adaptations.
@@samuel2727 dude do you want 110 chapters crammed into 13 episodes?
He needs to revisit this topic because Che is a LOT more powerful than before
Fr, that man is a whole different breed now😂😂
@@reJoYce1430 especially after the most recent chapters
Rare MHA w, love to see it🔥
Probs because most of its characters don't have the same absurdity as other popular anime/manga as they progress. For example Naruto, where things went from the legendary tile shuriken jutsu in the early show to weapons of mass destruction in the war arc.
@@tnuoccaekafsi9808 That kinda happened in mha cuz Deku vs nine. He was able to vaporize a country sized storm in one attack and got many many times stronger from there
@@zemzem1238 wasn't that in one of the movies?
@@tnuoccaekafsi9808 I still say deku can beat a good chunk of the akatsuki
@@junoperberry that's cannon to the show that horokoshi admitted
Yo but che with the buzz cut though whoo my nigga looking fire can't wait to see him turn evil
I'm pretty sure he's not gonna turn evil
@@deangelopaul6997 I mean it says he was the doom of earth and the flash backs bro not lookin good for him
@@randyking2057 no a evil kimyo said that
@@deangelopaul6997 no his best friend himself said that he will be the biggest danger for humanity
@@chadoffy8048 when exactly did he say that, I don't remember
Can’t wait for the Dark Deku arc to be animated. My favorite arc in mha
Sadly that was cut short by simply his classmates begging him to come back- after they more or less ignored the amount of pain he had been going through.
@@Argento_Wolf I wouldn't go that far. They acknowledged that he was going through some tough shit. They just recognized that he was on an unsustainable path of self destruction. Talking hadn't really worked.
@@MandatoryFruit but he was clearing out the bad guys faster than the heroes had actually done so. A war was happening and the heroes continued to hold to the “we can’t bring harm or kill these villains” ideals- which would put pressure on Deku to save the populace. Cause he was the only “hero” that was actively fighting against the villains with clear effects.
@@Argento_Wolf True but Deku was getting weaker and weaker by the day. If he kept on fighting, afo and his forces would’ve swooped in and take ofa and the entire world would be doomed
@@zemzem1238 weaker yes but even then when he went up against 1-a in his weakens state they couldn’t win, they even said that he was too strong for them.Personally I feel like it ended to quickly.
Ordeal needs more love honestly, I binged it way too fast as well honestly
Do you know where I can read it?
@@kingboyce646 Webtoon
@@pronoobie5780 thanks
Same energy as, “APPARENTLY”.
Bro honestly?
Never heard of Ordeal till now and I'm enjoying it. Thanks for the recommendation 😆
The fact is that Che didn’t have have powers before and was still a beast in the MMA ring was wild and the fact that he got his powers from his master after his is just bizarre
I agree, also check out the webtoon ordeal, it has amazing art and story.
We need to come back to this after ordeal gets more chapters/episodes
Che heart is like fighting Endeavor with stronger flames and someone who can use martial arts. Even before Che got his power from his teacher he can win fights against some of the kimyo
Ordeals art is insane. Be reading since the first chapter released. The author interacts with the readers and is super chill too.
Dayum, Deku's form looks good. I know its old, but still cool
It’s still new as Hell to the people who mainly watch the anime fr
Ordeal getting love is dope
Broooo who can't wait for season 2!!!! Of the Ordeal
My boy Izuku getting respect, I'm All(For One) here for it
Why did that corny ass pun make me laugh
@@SidTheShid I don't even know man, I'm not funny
@@allforone3427 it caught me off guard I wont even lie
@@SidTheShid this is like, the second time I ever used this joke, it's nice to know someone enjoyed it
@@allforone3427 Ngl, pretty funny
Bro, I can't WAIT for Ordeal to return. That's shit gonna 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love these just because it let's me see new characters I would have never known but gain insight into their respective worlds
Ima need an updated version of this fight in a few more weeks 🙏🏽
Pretty sure Che wins with how strong he currently is
lmao so true...che it at the point he can solo deku and all might without even thinking
I love ordeal. My favorite Kimyo is the guy with an explosive art talent
Finally one of these where Deku wins😂
He deserves it fr he a real one. This really got me thinking about Mob Vs Deku now though.
I remember the days when people used to talk shit about deku but now adays if you do it people will look at you like this 😑😑😑
Can you talk about Ordeal more? It's a great web-comic
Ngl we need more manhwa vs manga characters cuz it sound more interesting
First guy: glorified arsonist
Second guy: Op emo pickle
Good matchup! What about Escanor Vs The Hulk, that would be a pretty good fight
Hulk wins pretty easily
We're talking about a monster that pulled 2 tectonic plates together vs a man who's at best destroying a few mountains in one attack. The scale here is so far in Hulk's favor he's sending Escanor flying literally
I'm proud of my country, ordeal is prolly Trinidad's best manga
Ordeal is always a W.
But he just took a L
Let me remind everyone that Che heart is a God level threat in his world as shown in fast forwards
Ordeal is one of my favorite webcomics ever
Che also knows he hasn’t even scratched the surface of his power he says it in the series that he doesn’t use much of it in fear of hurting someone
Idk if that’s true but we haven’t seen current Deku bloodlusted. When we did during the first war, he was causing one of the strongest characters in the verse to think of nothing but finding someway to survive
Thanks now I got a new man what to check out
Season 2 Ordeal was a whole different beast, Che getting 100% of his power and the ability to still get stronger, plus some of the feats we’ve seen from comparable characters, may get him the dub over deku. But as of right now it’s prolly still Deku, Ronin Che however, well let’s just say Ima bet on him
Finally dekus considered badass
Yup Ordeal is a fire WEBTOON! Just binged reading it and I’m amazed by the art!
Ordeal needs an anime 😩
Bruh, this video sent me on a journey with webtoons. Thank you dude
YOOO SOMEBODY IS TALKING ABOUT ORDEAL, FINNALY.
Woah, wild to see ordeal in this
I need to see one of Winston from overwatch vs Valkyrie from Apex Legends
I doubt winston could even get a single hit jn
Thank you. I love ordeal one if the best webtoons out.
Rogue Deku is such a cold design, I miss it every day.
This is a really interesting match up was not expecting this
Current Che would be another story.
IM SO HAPPY THIS WEBTOON IS GETTING THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES!!!
When I saw the first guy I was like, "Joker as a firebender?"
"I heard that steve jobs died of ligma"
"Who's steve jobs"
"Ligma balls"
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wow! how original.. 10/10
Can't wait for ordeal to come back
Thanks for giving me something new to read. Never heard of ordeal before
Loving the webtoon Ordeal it's nice to people talking about it on their platform's.
Need a run back with this because DAYUM Che has gotten stronger
Bruh you on fire for this one
Ordeal is amazing. You should most certainly read it. Also, The creator kinda intends che to become a straight up god down the line of the story.
So kinda like Shinra from Fire Force then, fairly strong in the beginning, becomes a god near the end
@@saltyfishface4618 more so becomes a very huge threat to pretty much humanity in general kind of way. Like he’s on shigaraki’s level of dangerous
no way current Che would win..... BUT, I'm cooking, give it time! Time skip Che hits different.
Instead of Che should be Leo’s Daughter, Andrea!!! She is a menace!!!!and a mommy too!
And I love how people downgrade deli like he can’t beat an ant
I too absolutely hate it when my favorite deli gets insulted.
@@MandatoryFruit it was auto correct, I apologize
@@sheenahill4618 Don't feel bad my guy, I just thought it was funny.
People really underestimate deku it’s crazy. Dude has 6 different powers, 1 of which is a trump card we haven’t even seen yet. Smoke screen, danger sense (which is like spidey senses), flight, black whip, fa-jin (a power steroid which he can stack on top of OFA), OFA, and he is one of the smartest characters in the MHA verse. AND all of these powers are ENHANCED way above their initial state because First user Yoichi had the power to stockpile any power within his body. The longer they stay, the stronger they become. This is why 2nd users quirk is hinted to be extremely dangerous/situational, and why when each past quirk was unlocked, Deku had a harder and harder time controlling them. All this, and he is ONLY 16. He’s like gon, he has potential to be stupid OP in his prime adult years (shown in the anime), but he is held back by his age. And kid deku bodies adult gon, so just imagine him as an adult.
Current Deku solos hxh verse so yeah
Yo!! I just found Ordeal a few weeks ago and it is so damn fire
More ordeal content please
Finally found someone who talks abt Ordeal🔥
Ima gonna be honest as someone who read canvas before it became an original I feel like it will be much better fight when we get to where the canvas version was, and then past that as well.
Thank you for bringing attention of ordeal
Ordeal is GOATED!!!! Give my boy some more time he may possibly be able to compete!
Update Che is flicking tiny suns at people casually
I need that link for the webtoon and that's hard
Can you please Do sitama vs Goku. I would like to hear your opinion
Facts, but don’t compare early-series todoroki to endeavor. The power difference is huge
Please read Ordeal my guys
Okay do you know where I can read it?
@@kingboyce646Webtoon app
@@kingboyce646webtoon
ORDEAL IS SO UNDERRATED
Thx for the amazing content
Never heard of this Webtoon but I’m definitely gonna read it now
Dude please do more webtoon characters ❤
Big ups for letting me know about ordeal. It looks cool af, gonna give it a read
I would like to see a video about kratos vs doom slayer
I love ordeal matter of fact I need to finish it I’m almost done with the comic and I really hope they animate it into a show
Finally my boy manga Deku out here taking dubs 😭
He takes a lot more dubs than people think, they just don’t know where he really scales to
@@zemzem1238 the problem is his fluctuating power, he can either scale to All Might and AFO for brief periods or goes down to relatively street to city block level. Current Izuku probably scales just under All Might near the end of his power, but compensates by having more abilities. At his 100% state, he could go against AFO Shigaraki who's physical power along was comparable to All Might and Gigantomachia who wrecked a mountain, whether that's Prime Might or not is dubious since even past his prime, he's easily city level still and was probably island level during his prime
@@saltyfishface4618 Ngl, Prime All Might being Island lvl is a extreme low ball. Other than the bad scaling(no offense), Shiggy is definitely Prime All Might lvl since Jeanist compared him to it and there’s no way he stayed the same lvl but they are somehow getting bodied worse. Tbh, with the current situation, Deku without Fa jin should be relative to Prime All Might and should be able to beat Prime All Might in a 1v1.
@@zemzem1238 you are most definitely high balling Izuku by even comparing him currently to prime All Might. Mind you even All Might past his prime could generate F5 tornadoes, change the weather, and tear up whole city blocks and Izuku has shown no feats comparable to that in his current manageable state. 100% maybe, but he hasn't even reached a point he can do that without strain outside Fa Jin, which are one off instances. All Might in his his prime is 60 times more powerful than he was after giving his power to Izuku and Izuku hasn't come close to that. Also fair enough in your assessment my scalings a bit wonky, because that effectively puts prime Might in country level in terms of destructiveness which Izuku has again, yet to even remotely come close to
@@saltyfishface4618 Did you read the second half of my comment? Like, their only chance against a character stronger than Prime All Might is Deku and the rest of them keep on saying that they need to wait for Deku and buy time for him to get there. They keep on exemplifying that Shigarakiis above Prime All Might and that Deku is the only way to beat this Shigaraki. If he could only barely damage him with Fa jin, then they’d definitely be dead since his strongest attack is barely gonna be damaging Shigaraki. The only way for it to make sense is that Deku is relative to Prime All Might and Fa Jin is a great amount above Prime All Might, otherwise, they all would’ve been dead in two seconds
LETS GO jr speaking of webtoon charecters
Even tho I would have loved for che to win , I'm just happy ordeal even got here and it makes sense that deku wins . But I am really excited to see how strong che actually gets. He's supposed to surpass Leo and we saw a glimpse of the future where he seems to destroying the whole word or something
Never thought I'd see Mr Heart on here
I have an oc just like this except he even has wings and can create and take over any existing fire and fire sub types such as lightning and lava or anything that even uses fire or plasma but I ramble on for too long button line is great video and great argument
Can u do a (Tao tie from the great wall) vs white spikes
Ordeal is sick yo i love it so much
I Just had to say that
Do Game Sonic vs Flash. So many people sleep on his speed and strength.
Can u do. Mob from mob psycho vs terrible tornado from one punch man
Hey my boy Che heart still got room to grow
Bout time someone mentioned ordeal. What an awesome story
Hey I love all of your videos I have a question to ask I can't ask in your best Opinion who do you think would win win in a fight Anubis King of the Underworld and the most powerful God in Egypt's mythology mythology versus Lord Barris the most powerful God of destruction destruction in dragon ball
Che just got done with a training arc I want to see what he can do now. He's achieved blue flames
God tier webtoon let go
Ordeal getting love finally
I think this matchup would be more interesting if Che had more experience with his abilities. I’m sure as the series goes on, we’ll see more of how he incorporates ilios state into his combat and tactics, as well as his ruthlessness as a future villain. Maybe even blue flames?👀
Day one of asking :Who is stronger suiryu or deku
Do Jin mori vs Goku now.