Summary: All-Mountain Showdown
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- The grand finale, conclusion, wrap-up, summary of the All-Mountain Showdown is here - finally. In this episode, we take a deep dive into the Santa Cruz Hightower, Ibis Ripmo, Yeti SB130, and Transition Sentinel. All in the hopes of helping you decide which one is best for you and your riding style. We don't just tip-toe around the answers either - There's some good, clear buying advice in here. Oh, and we bought a second camera. Talk about all the angles! Let's get into it.
0:00 Intro
0:45 What is an all-mountain bike?
2:39 Climbing Rankings
3:49 Descending Rankings
5:30 Which one should you buy?
7:06 Awards - Спорт
Thanks for a much needed review of this category of bike. I believe it's still the only one of its kind on UA-cam.
Great wrap-up to a great series. Keep 'em coming!
Thanks! glad you liked it.
Thanks for this review. Makes me more confident in the transition as a choice! Great breakdown of pros/cons and why.
Have really enjoyed this series; been absolutely AWESOME!
Really well put together reviews and summaries
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
Love the series. Super helpful on categorizing riding style to bikes. Thx!
Thanks for the kind words. Glad you liked it.
Thanks for the great content and the trail to bike comparison was a good way to lay out each if the bikes!
Glad you liked it! I’m going to try to do those difficulty ratings more.
Really enjoyed the series. Especially liked the end figuring out who which bike is best for. Very cool. Keep up the good work.
Glad you like them!
Well done on this series Conner! Helped me make up my mind. Picking up a new Hightower tomorrow.
Nice! You’re going to love it!
Your series and reviews are really well done and thought out. I've been leaning heavily towards a Sentinel but these videos have cemented my choice. Thanks!
Hey thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate it. The Sentinel is so good. I’m going to be buried with mine.
Live in New England area, went with the SB130, it's perfect for the terrain here. Could not be happier with my purchase.
Well done. Thoroughly enjoyed the series.
Stoked you liked it!
This whole series has been fantastic. Kinda depressed its all over. But looking forward to what's next. Thanks again for taking the time to put all this together. It was very enjoyable, informative, and beautifully done.
In St, George right now looking at homes. Whish us luck.
Do it! You won’t regret Utah!
Great series! I think the rating system is very insightful, clever and better to understand than other ratings systems I've seen from other reviewers.
Glad you enjoy it! I'm going to try to use the trail difficulty scale more often.
Great information! Stocking up on research now so when the bike market slows down I can upgrade my 2016 lapierre 327 AM zesty. The Zesty is a Great bike, but ready for the next step! Thanks again for the reviews.
Loved this series. The Sentinel is my dream bike - thanks for all the info on it. Would love for you to do a video on the Bold Unplugged v2 - not much content on it out there and would love to get some riding impressions on it.
We don't carry Bold. Wont be able to make it happen unfortunately.
Have had my 2021 Santa Cruz Hightower R for a few months now and it is a dream bike. Couldn't recommend it enough. Loved the Showdown!
Stoked!
Very interesting reviews. Would have been great to include the Specialized Stumpjumper Evo in this comparison.
Thanks! We don't carry specialized. Won't be able to make it happen.
Great series. Even though I already made my choice (Ripmo AF) it was cool to get an honest breakdown of this lineup.
Thanks! Glad you liked it. The AF is a solid choice!
I hit you guys up on the DM and got an incredible quick response! can't wait to pick up one of these bikes in the near future, leaning towards the transition sentinel due to its all mountain capableness.
Great series. Much appreciated.
Thanks for watching!
Great series, I ride the Hightower v2 and my son rides the Sentinel, was interested to see your opinion. Spot on, sentinel is right on the edge of this category and the Hightower is just in it, especially with the cascade link (game changer)
C link, why ?
Great series. Thanks :)
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
With demos being hard to grab and a lot of fluff out there, thank you for producing this review. It comes off as candid and honest. You don't slander any of the bikes and really try to navigate riders to which one they'd be happiest with.
Thanks for the awesome feedback. I really appreciate it.
I loved the breakdown of characteristics and comparisons. Describing the trail type that is the “sweet spot” for each bike was also a brilliant idea.
A super enduro comparison would be fantastic. Bring the spire, range, enduro, dreadnought, meta sx and any other modern heavy hitter and see how they fare against each other!
Solid Chanel, very impressed with your content.
The enduro showdown is in the works. Getting all the bikes together has been a little tricky.
@@bikersedge that sounds like a bit of an understatement these days haha. Thanks for the update!!
Excellent review!
Really utilizing that black and white, hilarious
Hey thanks! Glad you liked it.
That was great and informative, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sweet. Nice and easy!! Thanks!! 🤩😎
Glad you liked it!
great reviewד ..... your reviewד is a major reason why i bought the SB130..... thanks a lot !!!!!!!
i own a SB130 (regular) for a month and a half now, sooooo good !
never had a bike that fit me. i am 6'4 and 238.1lb (but who's counting:).
cornering is awesome ! :))) for me is not so demanding , but i do charge or maybe have enough weight for the front and back :).
I am so centered on the SB130 so on drops (not doing BIG ones) i do not need to make a huge effort to get the front level... it is just so amazing.
The funny thing is when i timed 38km rout (230m climbing, fast rout) it was exactly the same speed and the same average HR as my Ripley V3(same outside temperatures) .
on the technical stuff the SB130 just wants to help you instead of "stuck" on the rocks like i felt on my Ripley V3.
Do not get me wrong, loved the Ripley but when started to advance and ride harder/gnarly the bike just is not enough and hung up on stuff (best for down country).
it is so important to try the bike and see that it is OK for you and your current style of riding.
Great showdown! I would love to see one like this for trail bikes like the ibis Ripley, transition spur and the like.
Well you're in luck. We already did one with the Spur, Tallboy and Ripley. Go check it out!
Thanks. Watched that also. Thanks for all the videos and reviews, very helpful and informative. I have owned the Yeti SB5, SB4.5 and SB5.5 and loved them all - particularly the way they have confidence through being planted, stable at speed and being very balanced in the air. They had you even if you fell asleep and did something a bit stupid. Now I have an Ibis Ripley v4 and a Yeti SB130 LR. I like the pedal efficiency of both, like to climb but also like to go down. Trails I ride are blue to back diamond with the occasional easy double black diamond. I’m not confident with a lot of air but getting there. I find I ride the Ripley 90% of the time and only reach for the 130 when I’m doing something more gravity orientated, steep, technical and especially if I’m doing shuttles. I’m not sure if there is a one bike but am intrigued by the Spur and the Ripmo. Thanks and keep up the great work.
This was a great series. I have a ripmo v2 and love it. The one thing that can really change how this bike feels on the climbs and downhill is tires. So cal is all about climbing steep fire roads and hitting the downhills, and this bike works well for that purpose.
Behind geo and suspension design, tires make the next biggest difference for sure.
The Ripmo is also a beast up tech climbs, front end stays down well and there is no real need to lay on the bars like some smaller trail bikes. Also stays composed when standing up to climb, doesn't blow through the travel like the Stumpy Evo does when standing.
You guys make the best videos.
Thanks for the kind words! It's been a process but I'm getting better... I hope.
Great series! I just sold my 2017 Tallboy to get a sb130. Can’t wait till yeti releases next monthish.
I would really appreciate a series like this comparing 130-150 mm HT trail bikes.
I'd probably destroy myself up on a hardtail!
Great series and reviews, thanks! I have an SB130 that I loved and couldn’t agree with you more on. I did the Lunch Ride upgrade to 160/137 but with the Fox Float X2 instead of the standard DP X2 after riding it for almost a year and wanting a little more plushness. It’s literally my dream “quiver killer” bike now: I don’t have to think about the terrain I’m facing ever…definition of All Mountain for me. HIGHLY recommend!
Great review! 😊🙌
Hey thanks!
Thumbs up for correcting which for what. Details matter.
My wife is a copy editor. She’d kill me for that one.
I came to testify that the ripmo is indeed happiest between east blues and tough blacks. The assegai tires make green trails a bit sluggish and the bike gladly can handle some double black diamond trails but you can tell it’s just happier on that flowy or chunky terrain. I think the new fox 38 up front and fox x2 in the rear do keep it descending a bit better nowadays. I can kind of see what you mean that the back end isn’t as stable on fast, chunky terrain but I think the new suspension keeps it more true.
Great Video series. I ride the Santa Cruz Megatower and have done a review on that on my channel. Wish i could test the Hightower as well though.
Very good review indeed! I wish I would own all 4 bikes!!!😀😀
Same here!
Thanks for the reviews. I've been riding a new SB130 for about a month and am amazed how capable it feels for only 130 out back. Fastest bike I've ever owned.
Rad! Glad you’re loving it!
Super helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Ripmo is the best playful, best climber, really good downhiller and again is really fun to drive !! It’s doesn’t kill you to go uphill and you just have fun all the time so I think is the best
Fun series! I like the breakdown too. Of these, I've only ridden the Ripmo V1 and was surprised how well it climbed compared to my hardtail. I am going to have a hard decision choosing between the Ripmo and the Hightower.
Get the Ripmo,no question it is way better than the Hightower,handling and overall feeling is way better when riding the Ibis,I personally tested both and I wouldn’t have any doubt..
Hey thanks! Both bikes are really good. It's going to come down to your riding style and priorities.
Good analysis.
Hey thanks!
Very nice review!
I'm biased toward Ibis!...LOL. Also, really like the SB130. I'd love to demo the Sentinel!
Careful. You demo it, you buy it.
Great content great video.
My 2021 Sentinel V2 is on the way.👍
Good choice! Enjoy!
Great video.
Hey thanks!
I know you guys don't carry Pivot, but I would LOVE to see the Switchblade thrown in with these bikes. Thanks for the awesome content as always!
Glad you liked it! Good thing we all know these four are way better than the Switchblade 😉
@@bikersedge I’ve ridden or owned all of these. I disagree. All rippers though.
@mathew Look it up. It’s in the Geneva Convention!
@Jeff Giles, I own the new switchblade and have taken both the ripmo and Hightower on multiple demos. I don’t think one is better than the others. Just comes down to preference. Climbing, the switchblade is on par with the ripmo - thanks DW. That switchblade is amazing how it is active when needed on technical climbs but firms up on the smooth track. Descending, I give the nod to the Hightower, but it’s a close race. The rest of the differences come down to nit picky stuff like do you mind super boost or not, press fit BB or not, etc.
Fantastic review series! Thanks and well done, it really helped to define the characters and pros/cons of each bike which is no mean feat. Where would you see the Yeti SB130 Lunch Ride fitting in the pack and what's your best guess where it would shine and perhaps not - thank you!
I think the lunch ride sits pretty much in the same place on the climbs and descents as the standard SB130. They’re really not all that different.
Love this series, I keep coming back to rewatch it over and over. I am wondering if high-pivot bikes are on the future review list. Would love to see a comparison to bikes here.
Hey thanks! We don’t have access to a ton of high pivot stuff at the shop. Don’t know if we could even do a showdown.
Currently in the rabbit hole on your channel. Phenomenal presentation. I watch a TON of MTB content on UA-cam. I'd put your channel against any of em.
Hey thanks for the kind words! Stoked you liked the videos.
Awesome review! Excellent organization and clear & concise content. Maybe do a similar review/format for the trail bikes and include the Trance X Advanced Pro 1, Ripley, Occam, and Spur/Tallboy?
Hey thanks! We've actually done all of those before. look for our Spur vs Ripley vs Tallboy video as well as our Occam vs Trance X video!
@@bikersedge I was thinking of having a shootout between all those models together but I understand what you’re saying. Keep up the great work of these videos!
I'd include them all, but I don't think the Occam and Trance X fit with the trail bikes. They fall in a weird spot between the trail bikes and the all mountain bikes. I'll start calling it all-trail!
@@bikersedge I like that, all-trail! I’ve owned both the Trance X Advanced Pro 1 and currently own the Ripley V4 and I think the Trance X climbs just as well as the Ripley and is a bit more stable on the descent. The difference between the two is the handling. I think the Ripley corners better.
I’d agree with everything there. Although I think the Trance X allows for riding quite a bit more aggressively on the DH than the Ripley.
I love my Ripmo AF, even if it weighs 36lbs haha. Still has the playful and poppy feel of a lot of trail bikes, and isn't a barge around switchbacks like a couple of its competitors (Sentinel and Stumpy Evo), corners extremely well and is a very stable jumper. Best pedaling bike with this much travel by a huge margin.
Weight doesn't matter as much as people think! The AF is an awesome bike.
@@bikersedge Yup, it's only noticeable on longer climbs
Even then it's not that big of a deal. I just did a 7k vertical day on my Sentinel. Sure it sucked, but it would have sucked on any bike.
Very nice series, enjoyed it a lot. I own a Norco Sight in size M and the geometry figures are nearly identical with the Sentinel and I would bet they ride very similar too. However, the Sentinel XL is somewhere in between the Sight L and XL size, if you would have compared them, you may have experienced a way different feel on the Sight depending on which size to ride.
Wonder if that same logic applies to the other bikes as well..
Size will always affect how a bike rides. I had a tough time picking my size when I reviewed the sight. Wish I could have gotten one to include in this showdown.
All right, after so many damn videos, wanting an enduro, I think I've decided on the Transition Sentinel
Rad. It's plenty aggressive for just about everyone.
This was a great series. I am in the market and have zeroed in on 2 of these 4. Wish the Niner Rip 9 RDO was included…maybe in the next one?
Thanks for the kind words. We don’t carry Niner at the shop. Won’t be able to make it happen unfortunately.
Great reviews. I’m thinking the Sentinel should be my next bike. Would be cool if they made it mullet compatible, like a lot of bikes in this category are doing. Wonder if the Sentinel V3 will have a flip chip of some kind to allow that.
Possibly. It’s tough to make bike mullet compatible without making too many compromises. Simply putting a flip chip in there doesn’t work too well because they chain stays are still long enough for 29. You don’t get all the mullet benefit.
I added an extra 10mm of travel to my Hightower, so it's 145 rear 160 front. It probably feels closer to the Sentinel now.
Great showdown! Love your channel and thoughts. I seem more Ripmos around Northern Utah than the other three combined. Around your shop where are the black diamond trails? It seems as of late we are removing the chunk and smoothing out the trails. (besides the bike parks)
Hey thanks. Glad you liked it. I do most of my riding in SLC and PC where theres plenty of rough trails, especially if you know where to look.
@@bikersedge thx!
Best test
Dope
Great review with lots of useful info. How do you think the Marin Alpine Trail does in this all mountain category? This might be my only option at this time.
Haven't ridden it. We don't carry Marin at the shop. Won't be able to get one for review.
Awesome quality, as always 👌🏼👌🏼
Is there anything in the more enduro category coming up?
I have a Spire on the way. Hopefully we can get a few more of the new enduro bikes so we can do a showdown.
Hopefully there will be a nomad in there 👻💪🏼🤓
I’ll do my best to get one in!
Awesome summary of an awesome series.... as a born and raised SoCal guy, can I ask what that machine on the right is at 5:05?
Anti-aircraft artillery /s
Ha! It’s a snow making machine.
@@bikersedge Ahh, I should've known that!
I’m a terrible climber and need all the help I can get. I can descend any bike fast and comfortable on double black, Ripmo V2 all day fun and doesn’t drain me on the climb.
It's for sure the best climber in the bunch!
I gotta think the new Rocky Mountain Instinct is a killer all-mtn bike. Maybe pick up RM ;)
Probably a good one. Haven’t ridden one.
Great series and reviews Conner. Thanks. I currently have an Ibis Ripley and have discovered chunkier downhills are fun now I have more confidence. Would the Ripmo or one of the others be a noticeable step up for me? After your summary I was leaning towards the Yeti?
Hey thanks! All of the bikes from this showdown would be a big move towards more stability and confidence on the descents.
I'd love to see a couple alloy bikes like the RipmoAF and Pyga Slakline thrown into this mix
We did a $3000 bike showdown lat year that included the Ripmo AF. Go check that out!
2021 all mountain of the year. Stumpjumper evo 💪🤩
I’ll fight you on that one.
@@bikersedge 🤣🤣🤣. I understand any one bike is gonna have its haters, what don't you like about the stumpy evo? Or is it a brand thing...I know there's a story behind that comment, spill it 😆
We don’t carry specialized at the shop so I’m contractually obligated to make fun of every stumpy fan!
@@bikersedge fair enough 😆
Hi thanks for explaining i appreciate it . I live in Michigan n ride mostly east Michigan mountain bike trails . Hardly any drops or jumps what do u think will be best bike for me ?
Not familiar with Michigan trails. Watch this series, and our trail bike series and that should help you find one that suits you best!
Thanks for the great content ! We need more of these :)
Even though I'm the happy owner of a Giant Trance X, I'm looking for more descending capabilities without looking for an enduro bike.
Would a Ripmo be enough of an upgrade compared to the Trance X, or do I need to make the jump towards the Hightower right away ?
The Hightower is really good climbing techy stuff because it has a lot of traction, also pedals happily everywhere and it descends very very well.
Any one of these would fall somewhere between what you have and a full-blown enduro bike.
I have the same thoughts as @pierrecarrière. I also own a Giant Trance x adv pro and I'm wondering if it's worth the thousands of dollars of investment to upgrade to a SC or a Yeti? I really love those MTB !! I do not have the chance to try them before buying, it complicates my choice. Any thoughts if it worth the price to go with a better all around mountain bike? I'm looking for a bike that climb as good as it goes down for blue/black trail.
Assurément, j'aimerais pouvoir me payer une de ces belles machines un jour!
Jo
@@TheJo159 So my Opinion on this is as follows:
Its the advanced Pro, so minimum 4000€. For that money you can get a used SB130 or an Hightower aswell.
In terms of climbing I think the Giant can't really be besten by the other two. but descending Id day the Hightower and the SB130 don't differ too much. Both a bit more capable then the Trance X.
But since it's 4 months ago that you wrote here. With what did you end up with? :)
Excellent series. Have you had a chance to review/demo the Pivot Switchblade? I feel like it's in this category and probably going to be the most similar to the Ibis Ripmo since they both have the DW link. I'm riding one now since Aug. and absolutely loving it
Hey thanks! We don’t carry pivot. I haven’t ridden one.
@@bikersedge Welcome! Oh ok thanks, I see. Would be interesting to see your feedback if you ever ride one. Loving your channel! 👍
Great Videos Brother, I had to Subscribe to the Channel........🤝🏾🇺🇸💪🏾
Hey thanks!
@@bikersedge You're very welcome, stay safe out there My Friend. And I'll be sure to keep Watching. The Videos are very interesting and informative as well........🤝🏾🇺🇸💪🏾👍🏾
One bike i have not seen reviewed or compared is the Stumpjumper EVO LTD to say the new Bronson V4... i sm curious to start seeing comparisons of the mullet bikes.
There still aren't a ton of them that come stock as mullets. As we get more in, I'll start making more videos.
I tested a few of these bikes and bought a Ripmo V2. I swear every Ripmo on YT is grey. We are lucky bikers, there are so many good bikes out there. To me there are like tools, you just have to find the right one for the job or own 2 bikes. Hah.
Thanks for producing quality content! Would the LR version of the SB130 (160 mm fork) move it up on the DH rating?
Thanks for the kind words! I think the LR is slightly more capable, but it's maybe not as big of a difference as most people think. Still very similar.
@@bikersedge I think a 160 fork is a big differentiator between “trail” and “all mountain”. I’m suggesting the LR is the actual AM bike and the SB130 decaf is the least AM of the bunch. Still, agree with you that it’s actually very fast and as long as you can deal with the less plushness, very capable anywhere. The 160 fork just makes it a bit more controlled on the burly DH side of All Mountain. Great work on these reviews and your others.
Would like to see the stumpjumper evo vs these and the sb130lr. It’s between those two for me right now.
We don’t carry specialized. Won’t be able to make it happen.
Great video series. I'm a few rides into my Ripmo V2. Was looking for a good all-rounder that could handle some gnarly descents. Did I blow it on my selection of a solid descender?
Thanks! Not at all. The Ripmo can handle gnarly stuff just fine. It's not quite as adept as the Sentinel, but it is a more well rounded bike. It climbs better and is more fun and playful on the trail. You made a good call!
@@bikersedge Thanks! (after dropping that kind of scratch second guessing with all of those great bikes out there can become an easy habit to pick up!). Additionally, I'm 5'7" with Michael Phelps length arms and the extra reach on the Ripmo V2 Medium over some of its peers felt really nice when test-riding.
Worth repeating, these videos are amongst the most professional and informative out there and always enjoy/look forward to them. Keep them coming!
I've ridden the Ripmo V2 on some proper technical, double black DH lines and it responded and handled really well. If you ride a lot of steep, techy stuff it may be worth adding a volume spacer or two to help with support at the bottom of the stroke.
One thing that really stands out is how well the bike handles itself with jumps (both natural and man made). Once you dial the suspension, the bike is eager to get into the air but also maintains stability really well.
I covered over 100 miles in 3 days at Trestle and there wasn't a single time that the bike felt like overkill or underkill - including most parts of the US Nat's DH line. I'm not saying you can hold pace with a proper DH bike when things get REALLY gnarly, but the Ripmo handled everything I could throw at it with confidence.
On top of that, its a lot of fun to ride on more mellow trails, and since the pedaling platform is SO good, typical trail riding can be approached a bit more aggressively or playfully than you would on some other bikes in my opinion. The Ripmo V2 is just SUPER fun to ride just about anywhere.
@@ijb2105 Hey thanks for the additional help!! Took her for another ride yesterday and with some time logged suspension tuning, the handling got better and better. I'm a very strong climber so it's the downs I always need the extra nudge on. I also have a coil for it for extra gnarly days, and for fun am going to bump up to a Fox 38 just because. Agree completely, VERY easy to get in the air and very predictable landings. Thanks again!
Content to have gone with an Ibis Ripmo AF for a fun $ saver!
Good choice. that bike is awesome.
Great job, what's the trail systems are you riding ?
Hey thanks. This is all from the SLC area.
Hello, those trails look amazing! What trail is that at 3:05 mark?
It’s at Alta
Curious where the Yeti SB130LR would fall into this shootout. Does the slight increase in travel and half degree slacker ha change its dh capabilities significantly?
I owned a LR and I've ridden the standard quite a it. I don't think there's a huge difference between them, honestly. If I was blindfolded I probably couldn't tell them apart. But yes, the LR feels a tiny bit burlier without really losing anything on the climbs. If I were to buy one again I'd still get the LR.
thank you much for all the info. i want/need the sentinel. wait… i cant afford it, nevermind.
Need is the correct usage here.
What bag/tool kit is mounted on the bosses on the underside of the top tube on the Sentinel?
Wolf tooth B Rad bracket with a Blackburn saddle bag.
@@bikersedge thanks!
What's the current wait time on a Sentinel build up? It would be the best compliment to the Spur. :)
We have a few Sentinels trickling in over the next few months. If you're local we can help you out!
great, have not even ridden my hightower yet, got it a few days ago, and I am already regretting not getting a ripmo....😥
@mikecito Damn dude. No need for that here.
@ontheotherside you’re not going to regret the Hightower. It’s an amazing bike!
Like video, then Watch video. Consistently among the best.
Thanks! Really appreciate the kind words!
Love this showdown , thank
you! Is it fair to say the Ripmo is the best at jumping out of the group ?
Glad you liked it. Yeah I'd say the Ripmo is the best for getting off the ground.
@@bikersedge cheers !
@@bikersedge local shop have an x01 and Xt build in stock ( bloody miracle ). Plan to demo the XT , not sure x01 is worth the extra 1k
Personally I don’t think components make a huge difference in how a bike rides. Buy the build that best fits your budget. I almost always buy GX or lower bikes myself.
@@bikersedge Yeah, I tend to agree and stuff is pretty easy to replace later anyhow if it becomes a problem.
Where would you place the Evil Offering V2 in this series?
Haven’t ridden that one. Wouldn’t be able to say.
I wondered where the limits of my sb130 lr were, and they were at windrock mtb park 😂 .
I think most bikes can find their limits there. Ha.
Good video series, but is there any reason why u don’t have the privateer 141 in there?
Yes. We don’t carry Privateer at the shop.
@@bikersedge that makes sense
Looks like a cool bike though!
Would you say that your findings are the same for the Ripmo AF? Thank you so much in advance for your opinion
Same as the Ripmo.
What about the AF with the Jade X Coil?
Same as Ripmo 👆🏼
Same as carbon Ripmo just a LOT heavier. My RAF is 36lbs
@@bikersedge really??? slacker had angle, more weight, more complaint frame material. I would say it has to take at least one notch away from climbing and throw two into descending part of equation.
Where would you slot the Rallon? I know you think she's an AM rig ;)
Somewhere near the sentinel. It’s a bit interesting because it has quite a bit more travel but its suspension feels more firm and pedally.
I got the sentinel cause this video
Stoked you found it helpful!
Me too!
How does Giant Reign pro advance compare to these bikes
Haven’t ridden that one for a long time. I wanted to include it in the mix but couldn’t get my hands on one. I think it slots in above the 130, ripmo and hightower but below the sentinel on the DH. Again it’s been too long to really say though.
I was wondering what's between the all mountain and enduro bike. Is call the Alduro bike. But Why? because it has 2.25mm more rear travel.....😅😅😅
It’s actually called the down-up-left-right-country bike…
ibis is win
Bro that shirt is fire..where get?
It's a brand called BYLT!
Why nobody test pivots?
Everything else > Pivot
In all reality we don’t carry Pivot at the shop so we can’t test or review them. They’re probably great bikes though.
Here's how I would define an All-Mountain bike. 150-160mm front travel, 137-150 rear travel, 76-77* STA, 65-63.5* HTA. I would put the Yeti SB 130 in the Trailbike category. However, the Yeti SB 130 Lunch Ride which has 137mm of rear travel I would put in the All-Mountain category. The Yeti SB 130 Lunch Ride should be called the Yeti SB 137. The "Lunch Ride" designation is just confusing.
It’s tough putting bikes into neat little boxes. I don’t think the SB130 lives with the Tallboy, Spur, Ripley and Optic. It’s much closer to the Ripmo, Hightower and Sentinel based on actual ride quality. Geo and travel numbers be damned.
@@bikersedge I would put the most of the bikes you just named more into the Downcountry category. I would put the SB130 solidly in the Trailbike category just like the Trek Fuel EX, Specialized Stumpjumper, and Giant Trance X. For a word like All-Mountain to be useful, it has to have a relatively specific definition. Yes, there might be some minor exceptions but in general the rule must hold. It's not helpful to be overly "loosy goosy" when defining what category a bike fits into. Otherwise, mountain bike categories become meaningless.
In my mind, downcountry doesn't exist - those are trail bikes. Unfortunately we kind of have to be "loosy goosy." Bikes usually are more than the sum of their parts. Thats why you can always say 150mm of rear travel = all mountain or 120mm always = trail. I mean look at the SB150 - It kicks ass in the EWS with less travel than most of the other bikes. If you think about it, categories are a bit meaningless anyway. What Richie Rude could do on an XC bike would destroy what I could do on an enduro bike. How do you account for rider ability, preference and style when talking about categories? They're all just bikes!
@@bikersedge In my mind, Trailbikes don't exist. It's Downcountry or All-Mountain with Trailbikes left out. Either get a 120/120 travel, light, lively, efficient pedaling, Downcountry like the Spur or get a 150/160 travel, stout, good descending, All-Mountain like the Ripmo. I recently rode the 130/140 travel, $4700 Stumpjumper Comp; which was truly a wonderful bike. However, it weighed 32 pounds. For that much weight, I might as well get more travel and buy an All-mountain bike like the $5300 Ripmo Deore or even the $3400 Ripmo AF(~34 pounds). The $4500 and $5300 Spur weigh 29 and 27 pounds, respectively. If you're going to ride a bike that weighs 32+ pounds you might as well get 150/160 travel.
Why accept 130/140 travel and still ride a heavy bike. Until the 130-140r/140-150f travel Trailbikes go on a diet, they're not worth it. The only way to get one that comes in a reasonable weight is to drop $9000+; which is way above my pay grade.
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Wish we could. That’s not a brand we carry at the shop.