The m2s best feature is the fact it has enough crewman that even of you loose your gunner, if you get away you always seem to have someone to replace him. Lol
The Japanese tanks on the list are actually fun to play. The Ha-Go is very fast and maneuverable, and the heat rounds on the other two can be lobbed from behind hills, leaving the enemy no chance at retaliation(not to mention destroying any lightly armored/un-armored vehicles with ease). Where these tanks really shine though(at least the go-ki) is in the hills. All of them have -15 degrees of depression and are light enough to climb up hills to get to firing positions. If you can use this and their speed, you can attack the enemy without them firing a single shot at you(which is a good thing ;) ).
The chi-ha is in my opinion is a very good tank because the heat at least for me was not bad I got a 15 kill game with the chi-ha with one life go Japanese tanks🇯🇵.
This is why we should get the Ke-Nu/ Ke-Ri to replacing the Ha-Go. It's a tank based on Ha-Go chassis but equipped with a turret from the Chi-Ha. So you would get the mobility of the Ha-Go and firepower of a Chi-Ha, it would be more playable for new players than the Ha-Go unless they fix the gun so the penetration is increased.
I think that this is an obvious progression, but could you do the worst rank 2 vehicles and then just continue on that pattern of going up a rank? also great vid! I can't play any vehicle as well as you played those, thanks for showing me some strategy.
Ok, as someone who has 100+ kills with all these tanks (except the premiums and Csaba which I'm working on), here's how I rank them from best to worst: 1. M2 2. Chi-Ha 3. M2A2 4. I-Go-Ko 5. Ha-Go 6. Csaba 7. AMC.34 8. FCM.36 9. H.35 I think you should've included the Alecto, Ka-Mi, GAZ-AAA DShk and Light AA Mk 1 which are far worse than some on the list. Also I'm surprised you haven't included the P.7.T AA.
@@blu5021 stop the cap! Alecto is the only piece of shit on this list that I struggle to keep a positive ratio with. It's got a nasty combination of useless HEAT round that doesn't do much damage to Panzers and an extremely long reload that will get you killed bc the Panzer you just shot replaced his dead gunner. Absolute garbage vehicle that I regret buying.
He probably didn't include AA vehicles as an intentional decision. Of course the truck with a 12.7 in the back doesn't kill tanks very well. That's not what it was designed to do. It's still a decent close-mid range AA vehicle (by 1.0 standards). It just kinda defeats the point.
It's a fun tank but a bad one. This is why I like it. You can have fun while doing effectively nothing in the team. And it's rare because new players doesn't have access to it (at least as far as I know😅)
Funny how they removed the regular Ha-Go from the game (for new players) but they still haven't replaced its starter-premium version, leaving the Ro-go the only other rank 1 premium u can buy for Japan. Also I think the Csaba's gun is bugged do to a penetrating 50'cal does more dmg to the crew than its 20mm. And u don't have the Sd.Kfz. 251/10, or u don't think its awful?
I brought the Soviet BT5 to realistic battles BR 2.7 with uptier. The bt5 is very fast with good armor pen at distance and up close. Still worked very good in those battles
independant can be goofy as hell to play since nobody knows really how to kill it efficiently. but yeah i think like many other comments said, the chi-ha isnt bad its special
It’s funny. I’ve found the independent actually quite good. It was fast enough and so long as the round penned it was a 1-shot almost every time. And it’s a rare survivable rank that.
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 they’re the water cooled WW1 looking type so they’re slower than most but they are helpful if a Russian milk truck or Italian police car shows up.
Love the csaba even though it sucks. It can be a good flanker/scout if you use it properly. And the commander in the rear can be used as a extra crewman
I actually played as Chi-Ha for quite some time. It was quite hard, but Japan in this Br is underpowered overall compared to US or Germany. It was not the best expirience. I mainly played as this tank due to some kind of armor and some kind of gun. It gets a bit better at 1.7 .
It would appear that the tanks that suffer the most are obviously infantry tanks designed for trench warfare and solely focussed on anti-infantry. Low tier US tanks are usually good because almost all of them have a .50cal and/or a 37mm with decent armor and speed. The 7.62mm on almost all of the other country's tanks are either there for historical accuracy and/or basic anti-air. Tier 1 is pretty fun for America because they have a HMG spam and a gun to penetrate as well as decent AA. Germany and Russia get some good tanks at T1 based on their main gun and sometimes armor. Almost everyone else sufferes from a lack of balance.
Machineguns often are deadlier than actual main guns in tier 1, depends on caliber ofc but harder to pinpoint location in bushy terrain when shot with mgs and they can shred bunch of important parts faster than weaker main guns
@@thepartycrasher3373 Yeah i know, but i'm talking about the first tanks ever built. like the Little Willie or Mark V and such. with only like 10 to 20mm of armor tops tier 1 wouldn't go so well with those tanks.
The go ko is very good in my opinion, but as sniper, don't go into close combat with it, it's very good for Poland map and I'm very good with it, as long as I stay at distance, because of that heat ammunition
The m2a2 when I first used it was unbelievably frustrating, I couldn't kill anyone but here he kills plenty. I need to try it out again on my new account. I don't know why though people hate the m2, I like it for the multiple machine guns.
I find the M2A2 extremely fun. If you know how to predict where lighter targets go, where to avoid heavily armoured ones and where to shoot, results will be visible
M2A2 is great for it's mobility, there's plenty of vehicles you can pen from the side/rear and you use that mobility to flank, there's only a few things you can't pen at all and you need to learn what they are and avoid them (Pz III E and F, French thicc armor).
I'm convinced that japanese engineers tested those aphe shells on their paper houses and were so impressed it could almost penetrate the walls that it had to be great against tanks.
The early Pz.IVs are only 'soft' on the front where it angles inwards because we were used to playing the thing at 4.-4.3 where T-34s and Shermans alike could spank you face first so easily, now in a downtier they are rather scary for some tanks. The Independent can go through the turret front corners and kill the whole turret crew though.
The BM 8-24 was a beast before they nerfed the rockets; it used to be able to kill almost any tank in its BR with 2 or 3 hits but then they made the rockets do as much damage as the actually should so it became mostly useless.
I think that M2A2 is one of the best rank 1 tanks bc of 72 km/h max speed, lot of crew and the 50 cal + it looks annoingly much some kindof machine from skipidi toilet series
The main reason why Japanese tanka sucked to tank to tank combat is because the Japaneses were mainly fighting the Chineses, which didn't have much tanks or armoured vehicles so they were more used as infantry support tanks
The Ha-Go isn't bad actually and I liked it in tier 1 battles better than any other tanks in the other nation tree besides the Russian BT-5 and T-26. It's small, quick, relatively good turret traverse speed and the round itself isn't bad. Sure it's not high penetration nor does it deal high explosive collateral damage but due to its speed and agility, it's a massively great brawl tank where you can afford to throw caution to the wind and take the fight to the enemy's point and just shoot them time and time again till you take them down and that's why I like the Ha-Go alot.
At minute 24:08 I love how he say he still calls it a bad tank. Yet at minute 22:38 this man shooting underneather the barrel of a pz 4. Everyone knows to shoot the gunner. It's obviously a skill issue not a tank issue.
The AMC.34 YR is one of my favourte 1.0 tanks. Very satifying killing other tanks with it. The penetration is low but at 500m it's still 20mm even at 30°. Which means some tanks are easily penetrated. It also still has the old APHE fuze sensitivity of just 6mm. Meaning you will never overpen armored cars that sometimes only have 6-8mm of armor, since the default APHE fuze sensitivity is 9mm for low calibers. Hull down the armor is also not bad.
well even if they do get APDS, how much pen is it gonna have considering the fact that the barrel is so short? most people don't understand that it's not the diameter of the round but the length of the barrel that determines the velocity and thus the pen of the round, that's why the German squeezy boy has so much pen with only 20 mm rounds and the French Lorraine 37 has so much pen with only 37 mm.
@@giovannifoulmouth7205 Barel length isn't the only determining pen factor but yes it's relevant. While the apds probably wouldn't affect the tank's atrocious status it will make french reserve a bit more bearable. The brandit 37/25 apds penetration at 100m 0° angle is 51mm which isn't much but it's miles better than what we have now. And by the way the german armored car isn't a good example of barel lenght increasing penetration because it is a squeeze bore gun that reduces the initial calibre of the shell from 28mm to 20mm. That's why it has a great penetration.
@@rayhill1 51 mm of pen would be very good indeed, Gaijin will never add it. Yeah I was wrong about the 221, it has a pretty short barrel, a better example would be the 25 mm French reserve gun that has very good pen values.
@@russman3787 Imagine if we had the M1 Combat Car, a 1917 Liberty Tank, Renault FT, and versions of that tank used by other nations added to the game along with the Holy Bob Semple Tank.
On reserve tiers, you can absolutely can get away with anything that has a decent turn radius and gun with a single strength, be it filler, penetration or fire rate. You basically play an SPA, but that can still work. I got my first top tier ace with a knocked out turret ring, but if you win the position fight, which low tier players have no idea about anyway, you got a good shot on a kill.
Call me an old fart but the BM-8 has a soft spot in my heart due to the bm-13n event where you could redeem a test drive of the bm-8 and get the bm-13n if you got enough kills in one match. Still to this day, I think the title Incinerator is my favorite title the game has given out.
In that last game you kept hitting that Italian tank on the angled and overlapping part of the driver’s hatch or the MG mount. It was painful to watch as any adjustment you made was matched by the enemy. And of course your tank was a complete bucket of trash ie. it’s _low tier French_ and that’s the same thing after all.
I’m gonna be honest, I’ve actually always done pretty well with those low tier Japanese tanks, I have a couple screenshots of me getting 10+ kills in the ha-go. Personally I like them
For the T-26 penning your AMC, you're reading the charts incorrectly. You can't look at "effective armor" AND then also use the angled column in the pen chart. That's double dipping. The "effective armor" already roughly takes into account the angle performance. So choose one OR the other: use the 0 degrees column but compare to "effective" OR use the nominal thickness and choose the angle column bigger than 0 degrees. So 60mm effective, and at about 50 meters, the russian gun pens about 65mm, so it goes through (if it doesn't ricochet, random RNG). OR choose 20mm actual thickness, then look at the 60 degree column in the chart: 30mm, again would go through.
On one hand, you're perfectly right of course. But you know, let's do like the players of this game likes to do: blame every stupid mistake and death on "russian bias", and feel yourself free of any responsibility!
@@Narcan885 I mean, there's still russian bias though at low tier. A BT-5 could easily be like a 2.3 tank, or even higher. A Chi Ha Kai is 2.3, right? And way clunkier, slower, not really meaningfully better armor, and JUST got almost the same gun for the first time... Maybe to be charitable, "they didn't want the BT-5 to get scouting" (although there's still the Bt 7 F32 which does, so...)
i mean in defence of the french tank you tested: what did you expect for infantry support? (tanks not made for tank battles). also rq to all other players that just 3 tank dont think of just bc of those 3 that the entire french tech tree suck
That independent moment was entirely skill issue as you shot the sides at an insane angle and complain it didnt pen and you shouldve shot the turret, being only 30mm
Honestly I dont think the gun matters in low tier, especially tier one. As long as the platform its attached to is good you can work around it. Whether its the mobility of a tank like the m2a2 or the gremlin sized L3, I personally think that they are some of the most enjoyable to play in the game. On the other hand tanks like the independent are just massive painfully slow targets with a pathetic gun to match. Tanks like that are just entirely unfun to play.
I mean it does have a pretty solid shell if the user knows how to aim, and the amount of crew members lets it take a beating as long as the ammo rack isn't hit. For its size and slow speed it does suck armor wise tho
Why do half of the Csaba's shots just vanish? And why is it at 1.3 while better vehicles are at 1.0? It's a fun vehicle to flank around in, but the gun just seems to be underperforming.
Ngl, its hard to rank Tier 1 and 2 vehicles in WT because most of these tier lists are made by experienced players, who end up seal clubbing new players.
USA and USSR should have good bunch of their less known 1920s and 30s tanks on the lowest BRs. Stuart and BT are just so far better than most other bottom BR things. Only Germany kind of lacks something equal thanks to the tank ban and Panzer I with 7.92mm wouldn't just cut it. I found it interesting that you didn't have Type 95 Ro-Go on the list.
So far I am at the ha go and every single one of the vehicles except for the first vehicle that he did I use them and I did excellent in them like I don't understand if it's just that you just don't know how to use them or if it's just that you were very quick to put them down I guess it's just that you just don't know how to use them.
The absolute worst tank you couldve played at low tier is actually the T-60 with its 20mm TNSH cannon, long reload, terrible penetration, and little to no survivability. frontal hull is sorta decent though. but otherwise pretty terrible
The m2s best feature is the fact it has enough crewman that even of you loose your gunner, if you get away you always seem to have someone to replace him. Lol
Its a clown car with 6 guns lol
@@giovannibonifati exactly that's what makes it so fun to use
A clown car that can rotate its turret 360 degrees in a snappy 1 minute 30
@@themedic7933 3-5 business days
@@themedic7933 3-5 business months
What's crazy is that the Ha-Go sometimes found itself facing the M4 Sherman during the war in the pacific. That would have been terrifying.
The Chi-Ha is actually pretty decent imo
Agreed. It was painful only back then when it only had APHE but now it is a decent starter tank with HEAT round.
10:55 the Pz.IV was the E variant at 2.0 it has additional armor plates on the hull front and sides.
The Japanese tanks on the list are actually fun to play. The Ha-Go is very fast and maneuverable, and the heat rounds on the other two can be lobbed from behind hills, leaving the enemy no chance at retaliation(not to mention destroying any lightly armored/un-armored vehicles with ease).
Where these tanks really shine though(at least the go-ki) is in the hills. All of them have -15 degrees of depression and are light enough to climb up hills to get to firing positions. If you can use this and their speed, you can attack the enemy without them firing a single shot at you(which is a good thing ;) ).
You get the Ha-go after reaching rank 2 do it's useless
Honestly all that gun depression makes them great killers if used correctly.
I like to play with the i go, the heat round is very decent for being in a tank of 1.0 xd
Fun for you and rest of weebs, French fanboys enjoy bad French tanks too.
The ka-mi is crap in my opinion worst rank1 japanese tank
The chi-ha is in my opinion is a very good tank because the heat at least for me was not bad I got a 15 kill game with the chi-ha with one life go Japanese tanks🇯🇵.
Check out minutes 22:38. He was literally shooting in the wrong place that's why the rounds wouldn't pierce.
Yea. I used to get like 10-12 kills in that thing and that was me playing on Xbox
This is why we should get the Ke-Nu/ Ke-Ri to replacing the Ha-Go. It's a tank based on Ha-Go chassis but equipped with a turret from the Chi-Ha.
So you would get the mobility of the Ha-Go and firepower of a Chi-Ha, it would be more playable for new players than the Ha-Go unless they fix the gun so the penetration is increased.
I think that this is an obvious progression, but could you do the worst rank 2 vehicles and then just continue on that pattern of going up a rank? also great vid! I can't play any vehicle as well as you played those, thanks for showing me some strategy.
Ok, as someone who has 100+ kills with all these tanks (except the premiums and Csaba which I'm working on), here's how I rank them from best to worst:
1. M2
2. Chi-Ha
3. M2A2
4. I-Go-Ko
5. Ha-Go
6. Csaba
7. AMC.34
8. FCM.36
9. H.35
I think you should've included the Alecto, Ka-Mi, GAZ-AAA DShk and Light AA Mk 1 which are far worse than some on the list. Also I'm surprised you haven't included the P.7.T AA.
The alecto is insanely good idk what you mean
@@blu5021 stop the cap! Alecto is the only piece of shit on this list that I struggle to keep a positive ratio with. It's got a nasty combination of useless HEAT round that doesn't do much damage to Panzers and an extremely long reload that will get you killed bc the Panzer you just shot replaced his dead gunner. Absolute garbage vehicle that I regret buying.
@@Iwbsjdbkd rarely
How can 4x 13.5mm be worst than 1x 12.5mm... the P7TAA is great. It also has great traverse and can be an AA reasonably unlike the M2A2
He probably didn't include AA vehicles as an intentional decision. Of course the truck with a 12.7 in the back doesn't kill tanks very well. That's not what it was designed to do. It's still a decent close-mid range AA vehicle (by 1.0 standards). It just kinda defeats the point.
Personally enjoy the french ones, especially H.35
H.35 was the death of me, the AMD 35 is the only thing that got me past reserve tier France
It's a fun tank but a bad one. This is why I like it. You can have fun while doing effectively nothing in the team. And it's rare because new players doesn't have access to it (at least as far as I know😅)
M2A2 is OKish for skilled players with rough idea what they can and cannot pen with 50 cal., but for a new player it's next to unplayeble.
Funny how they removed the regular Ha-Go from the game (for new players) but they still haven't replaced its starter-premium version, leaving the Ro-go the only other rank 1 premium u can buy for Japan. Also I think the Csaba's gun is bugged do to a penetrating 50'cal does more dmg to the crew than its 20mm.
And u don't have the Sd.Kfz. 251/10, or u don't think its awful?
I brought the Soviet BT5 to realistic battles BR 2.7 with uptier. The bt5 is very fast with good armor pen at distance and up close. Still worked very good in those battles
independant can be goofy as hell to play since nobody knows really how to kill it efficiently. but yeah i think like many other comments said, the chi-ha isnt bad its special
The Casaba is actually not that terrible if played to its strenghts, witch means moving constantly and shooting at short ranges
It is still terrible.
@@gavinjenkins899I have personally found succes with it
If you try really hard, you can still have a garbage time with an unfun trash vehicle that gets beat in every way by a reserve tier vehicle.
It’s funny. I’ve found the independent actually quite good. It was fast enough and so long as the round penned it was a 1-shot almost every time. And it’s a rare survivable rank that.
I’d take it over any of the Italian or Japanese rank 2 medium tanks.
question, the machine guns? what they like?
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 they’re the water cooled WW1 looking type so they’re slower than most but they are helpful if a Russian milk truck or Italian police car shows up.
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 the same sort as on the A-13s.
I don’t think this guy knows that 50 CALS are technically secondary cannons in rank one and reserve rank
Love the csaba even though it sucks. It can be a good flanker/scout if you use it properly. And the commander in the rear can be used as a extra crewman
The m2 has a severe frontal weak spot that instantly annihilates it if you use aphe
I can say that in ~2016 m2a2 was one of the best tanks. Even im as a newbie killed at least somebody on this vehicle EVERY battle.
Yep I'm agree, especially in only 1.0 br tank, although pz II C easily shred it into pieces
@@rizkidary837true, but pzII still shreads many tanks into pieces 😅
There is one thing going for the Independent tank - it's got 4 separate corpse fridges so your team doesn't have to smell enemy success as they die.
I actually played as Chi-Ha for quite some time. It was quite hard, but Japan in this Br is underpowered overall compared to US or Germany. It was not the best expirience. I mainly played as this tank due to some kind of armor and some kind of gun. It gets a bit better at 1.7 .
But the Ha-Go is what the T-26 wanted to be except for the gun.
It would appear that the tanks that suffer the most are obviously infantry tanks designed for trench warfare and solely focussed on anti-infantry. Low tier US tanks are usually good because almost all of them have a .50cal and/or a 37mm with decent armor and speed. The 7.62mm on almost all of the other country's tanks are either there for historical accuracy and/or basic anti-air. Tier 1 is pretty fun for America because they have a HMG spam and a gun to penetrate as well as decent AA.
Germany and Russia get some good tanks at T1 based on their main gun and sometimes armor. Almost everyone else sufferes from a lack of balance.
I think the 7.7s are still to serve as Anti-Infantry from surrounding the tank
they really need to add a tier 0 with just tanks that have only machine guns and such
Machineguns often are deadlier than actual main guns in tier 1, depends on caliber ofc but harder to pinpoint location in bushy terrain when shot with mgs and they can shred bunch of important parts faster than weaker main guns
@@thepartycrasher3373 Yeah i know, but i'm talking about the first tanks ever built. like the Little Willie or Mark V and such. with only like 10 to 20mm of armor tops tier 1 wouldn't go so well with those tanks.
The go ko is very good in my opinion, but as sniper, don't go into close combat with it, it's very good for Poland map and I'm very good with it, as long as I stay at distance, because of that heat ammunition
Independent is pretty decent if you play it like a literal landship
The m2a2 when I first used it was unbelievably frustrating, I couldn't kill anyone but here he kills plenty. I need to try it out again on my new account. I don't know why though people hate the m2, I like it for the multiple machine guns.
I find the M2A2 extremely fun. If you know how to predict where lighter targets go, where to avoid heavily armoured ones and where to shoot, results will be visible
@@Firestorm_2nd i did use it like over 2 years ago and yet I still suck at tanks lol
M2A2 is great for it's mobility, there's plenty of vehicles you can pen from the side/rear and you use that mobility to flank, there's only a few things you can't pen at all and you need to learn what they are and avoid them (Pz III E and F, French thicc armor).
frensh people : i thinks we all know where this is going , so lets just skip to the end
I just noticed this today but you kinda have the same tone of voice as my geometry teacher
U should now do a vid on the best rank 1 tanks or worst rank 2 tanks
Ha go is pretty good I bought hago commander and im pretty satisfied with it
I started the French tech tree back when the AMC.34 YR and the H.35 were the reserve tanks…pain.
When you fought in the Independet, that Panzer IV was the F1
It was the E but yeah, Muffin should've shot the turret, the only place where he could pen.
The I-Go-Ko and Chi-Ha are both wonderful tanks, tier 1 Japan was my favorite tier 1 so far and I've played them all except France and Britain
M2A2 is my fav rank 1
It’s a fast sneaky boi good for flanks, the 50 hits fast enough that you can pick apart the crew
I'm convinced that japanese engineers tested those aphe shells on their paper houses and were so impressed it could almost penetrate the walls that it had to be great against tanks.
The early Pz.IVs are only 'soft' on the front where it angles inwards because we were used to playing the thing at 4.-4.3 where T-34s and Shermans alike could spank you face first so easily, now in a downtier they are rather scary for some tanks. The Independent can go through the turret front corners and kill the whole turret crew though.
as a japanese main pzs are my nightmare. their ammunition can kill me with a track shot.
The BM 8-24 was a beast before they nerfed the rockets; it used to be able to kill almost any tank in its BR with 2 or 3 hits but then they made the rockets do as much damage as the actually should so it became mostly useless.
34:13 Yup, the shell would worp and twist itself 30 degress when the armour is at 60 mm. That shell shoulld be called an AW shell (armour whorping)
Video idea: panzer 3s (any variant) vs a leopard or two
The m2a4 is effectivly just a autocannon armed IFV for 1.0. Yeah you cant frontaly pen everything but you have a high ROF gun with a stab.
I think that M2A2 is one of the best rank 1 tanks bc of 72 km/h max speed, lot of crew and the 50 cal + it looks annoingly much some kindof machine from skipidi toilet series
28:33 I've actually almost gone over the edge at the exact same spot with the Csaba
If the M2 would be the best if it had good turret traverse speed.
9:02 *kills a bt-42
"Alright finnish-ed him off"
The main reason why Japanese tanka sucked to tank to tank combat is because the Japaneses were mainly fighting the Chineses, which didn't have much tanks or armoured vehicles so they were more used as infantry support tanks
Yeah they buried their tanks to serve as turrets in the pacific theatre, they just were outmatched by basic American tanks.
has anyone ever noticed the m2 has 9 30. cals on it open top nightmare
The Ha-Go isn't bad actually and I liked it in tier 1 battles better than any other tanks in the other nation tree besides the Russian BT-5 and T-26.
It's small, quick, relatively good turret traverse speed and the round itself isn't bad. Sure it's not high penetration nor does it deal high explosive collateral damage but due to its speed and agility, it's a massively great brawl tank where you can afford to throw caution to the wind and take the fight to the enemy's point and just shoot them time and time again till you take them down and that's why I like the Ha-Go alot.
At minute 24:08 I love how he say he still calls it a bad tank. Yet at minute 22:38 this man shooting underneather the barrel of a pz 4. Everyone knows to shoot the gunner. It's obviously a skill issue not a tank issue.
The AMC.34 YR is one of my favourte 1.0 tanks. Very satifying killing other tanks with it.
The penetration is low but at 500m it's still 20mm even at 30°. Which means some tanks are easily penetrated.
It also still has the old APHE fuze sensitivity of just 6mm. Meaning you will never overpen armored cars that sometimes only have 6-8mm of armor, since the default APHE fuze sensitivity is 9mm for low calibers.
Hull down the armor is also not bad.
With the independent, you should utilize the large amount of machine guns.
and the bm is spaa and m10/m8 nightmare
Your top 2 tanks are supposed to get apds. Sweden gets future tech apds on their reserve tanks, but france can't get apds they used at the time.
well even if they do get APDS, how much pen is it gonna have considering the fact that the barrel is so short? most people don't understand that it's not the diameter of the round but the length of the barrel that determines the velocity and thus the pen of the round, that's why the German squeezy boy has so much pen with only 20 mm rounds and the French Lorraine 37 has so much pen with only 37 mm.
@@giovannifoulmouth7205 Barel length isn't the only determining pen factor but yes it's relevant. While the apds probably wouldn't affect the tank's atrocious status it will make french reserve a bit more bearable. The brandit 37/25 apds penetration at 100m 0° angle is 51mm which isn't much but it's miles better than what we have now. And by the way the german armored car isn't a good example of barel lenght increasing penetration because it is a squeeze bore gun that reduces the initial calibre of the shell from 28mm to 20mm. That's why it has a great penetration.
@@rayhill1 51 mm of pen would be very good indeed, Gaijin will never add it. Yeah I was wrong about the 221, it has a pretty short barrel, a better example would be the 25 mm French reserve gun that has very good pen values.
The M2A2 is absolutely busted, BT-5 mobility with a 50. cal at 1.0
M8 is the same br though
@@russman3787 yeah but M8 has only 200 rounds of 50 cal?
@@giovannifoulmouth7205 It also has a 37mm that's quite potent for 1.0. The M8 is the most OP 1.0 tank by far.
@@russman3787 Imagine if we had the M1 Combat Car, a 1917 Liberty Tank, Renault FT, and versions of that tank used by other nations added to the game along with the Holy Bob Semple Tank.
@@russman3787 yeah it's my fav vehicle in WT
I agree with you on how slow the turret turns for the M2 Medium.
The WoT's M2 Medium is way better.
Lol great video. I hope you do all the ranks. Thank you.
Another amazing video, its great to see you seeming to have fun (teach me your ways)
16:58 Comrade commissar, why are we shooting potatoes instead of real grenades?! xD
Love all your videos especially the country vs country ones keep up the great videos
On reserve tiers, you can absolutely can get away with anything that has a decent turn radius and gun with a single strength, be it filler, penetration or fire rate.
You basically play an SPA, but that can still work. I got my first top tier ace with a knocked out turret ring, but if you win the position fight, which low tier players have no idea about anyway, you got a good shot on a kill.
Call me an old fart but the BM-8 has a soft spot in my heart due to the bm-13n event where you could redeem a test drive of the bm-8 and get the bm-13n if you got enough kills in one match. Still to this day, I think the title Incinerator is my favorite title the game has given out.
the independent is still good because its rather mobile, has natural steering, you can use the mg gunners has meat sheld and its survivable still
I feel like the Japanese forgot that they need gunpowder, and that their shells are being shot out with an air compressor
I havent touched the m2 medium since ground forces came out and i grinded past it
Rotating the m2 turret is the Definition of a Sisyphos task
The Panzer IV that you fought with the Independent was actually the Pz IV Ausf E (because of the additional armor plates) not the Ausf C
So it has 30mm+30mm of armor frontally and 20mm+20mm of armor on the sides
And it was also angled
In that last game you kept hitting that Italian tank on the angled and overlapping part of the driver’s hatch or the MG mount. It was painful to watch as any adjustment you made was matched by the enemy. And of course your tank was a complete bucket of trash ie. it’s _low tier French_ and that’s the same thing after all.
The m2a2 should be awful, but with good skill and careful maneuvering it can be absolutely great
I’m gonna be honest, I’ve actually always done pretty well with those low tier Japanese tanks, I have a couple screenshots of me getting 10+ kills in the ha-go. Personally I like them
you definitely missed some "jems" like T-26-4 (maybe even the regular one) or Pz III B
For the T-26 penning your AMC, you're reading the charts incorrectly. You can't look at "effective armor" AND then also use the angled column in the pen chart. That's double dipping. The "effective armor" already roughly takes into account the angle performance. So choose one OR the other: use the 0 degrees column but compare to "effective" OR use the nominal thickness and choose the angle column bigger than 0 degrees. So 60mm effective, and at about 50 meters, the russian gun pens about 65mm, so it goes through (if it doesn't ricochet, random RNG). OR choose 20mm actual thickness, then look at the 60 degree column in the chart: 30mm, again would go through.
On one hand, you're perfectly right of course. But you know, let's do like the players of this game likes to do: blame every stupid mistake and death on "russian bias", and feel yourself free of any responsibility!
@@Narcan885 I mean, there's still russian bias though at low tier. A BT-5 could easily be like a 2.3 tank, or even higher. A Chi Ha Kai is 2.3, right? And way clunkier, slower, not really meaningfully better armor, and JUST got almost the same gun for the first time... Maybe to be charitable, "they didn't want the BT-5 to get scouting" (although there's still the Bt 7 F32 which does, so...)
The M2A2 is an absolute riot on arcade mode..
The M2 is an incredibly good spaa for its rank
On the other hand, the 15cm SIG is a tank that can reliably kill top teir tanks
H.35 is definitely worse than the FCM.36. At least the FCM's mobility isn't completely unusable.
H.35 has faster top speed but FCM36 feels quicker in acceleration and turning.
As the only independent player its fun and i love seeing people who doesnt know how to shoot at me also rare british aphe
i mean in defence of the french tank you tested: what did you expect for infantry support? (tanks not made for tank battles). also rq to all other players that just 3 tank dont think of just bc of those 3 that the entire french tech tree suck
I don't know I kinda like the AMC.34. I can't really tell why I just find it to be a nice little tank.
Bro ur the one who killed me cause I died m2a2 lol u did good my teammate was behind u lol but u escaped lol
Timestamps would be nice in this video
That independent moment was entirely skill issue as you shot the sides at an insane angle and complain it didnt pen and you shouldve shot the turret, being only 30mm
Personally I had a good experience with the I-go-ko’s heat round but the armor is little to nothing 18:45
Now we need a worst rank 1 planes in war thunder.
Kingfisher
Honestly I dont think the gun matters in low tier, especially tier one. As long as the platform its attached to is good you can work around it. Whether its the mobility of a tank like the m2a2 or the gremlin sized L3, I personally think that they are some of the most enjoyable to play in the game. On the other hand tanks like the independent are just massive painfully slow targets with a pathetic gun to match. Tanks like that are just entirely unfun to play.
you know a tank is bad when a T-28 looks intimidating in front of you
I mean it does have a pretty solid shell if the user knows how to aim, and the amount of crew members lets it take a beating as long as the ammo rack isn't hit. For its size and slow speed it does suck armor wise tho
Why do half of the Csaba's shots just vanish? And why is it at 1.3 while better vehicles are at 1.0? It's a fun vehicle to flank around in, but the gun just seems to be underperforming.
It’s gun is literally the L3/33 cc’s with half the magazine capacity
When I need people to help me, they don't, but when I don't need help, they steal my kill 😭
Ngl, its hard to rank Tier 1 and 2 vehicles in WT because most of these tier lists are made by experienced players, who end up seal clubbing new players.
YOU TAKE THAT BACK, THE M2A2 IS A GOOD TANK AND IT'S CUTE TOO
It was pz4e
USA and USSR should have good bunch of their less known 1920s and 30s tanks on the lowest BRs. Stuart and BT are just so far better than most other bottom BR things. Only Germany kind of lacks something equal thanks to the tank ban and Panzer I with 7.92mm wouldn't just cut it.
I found it interesting that you didn't have Type 95 Ro-Go on the list.
Really cool and fun Video idea, like is out!
Putting the M2 below any french tanks seems a bit disrespectful to the M2
So far I am at the ha go and every single one of the vehicles except for the first vehicle that he did I use them and I did excellent in them like I don't understand if it's just that you just don't know how to use them or if it's just that you were very quick to put them down I guess it's just that you just don't know how to use them.
The m2a2 is one of my favourite tanks
Some cannons had better penetration than some of those rounds lol
No shit the M2A2 is the most pointless tank in the USA tech tree. I'd pick the M2 over it
Copium.
I hate when UA-camrs show the worst tanks in a compilation to make it seem that they destroyed like 10 tanks
The absolute worst tank you couldve played at low tier is actually the T-60 with its 20mm TNSH cannon, long reload, terrible penetration, and little to no survivability. frontal hull is sorta decent though. but otherwise pretty terrible
less than 40 rounds in the FCM? u are very optimistic XD
I got 3kills and 2 assist with the go-ko in one game when i was starting war thunder