I never thought Nic Nak was upset Scaramanga was killed. Only that Bond (Actually Goodnight) blew up the island and all the wealth Nic Nak was hoping to get.
Ive always had a fan theory in my head that Max Zorin somehow survived his fall off the Golden Gate bridge, moved to Gotham City and created a new identity for himself as another ruthless billionaire: Max Schrek :-)
I always assumed the “diplomatic bag” was surely a phrase for sending Kosovo back in a body bag, so pretty sure he certainly did not get away ! Anyway Calvin “bless your heart” for looking on the positive side for him.
Diplomatic bags are sent between embassies and the home country (and vice versa) and usually contain documents and secret material. To inspect them is a violation of international law. I understood the order to send him in the diplomatic bag to involve dismemberment to get him to fit. Note:technically large duffel bags and even crates can be designated as diplomatic bags, but because Pushkin did not specify a larger container I understand his order to refer to the regular bag for documents.
Maybe - just maybe - the German version can clarify that, since General Pushkin's order at the end of "Living Daylights" in the German version translates to: "Send him with the next plane to Moscow - as diplomat's ashes." So: No, Koskov did not get away in my opinion. I always had the feeling that they would take him out in the back yard of Whitaker's house and just shoot him there.
It's ambigous at best. There is nothing explicitly stating his fate. If anything, after so many people witnessing his arrest in a foreign country, I always thought that it would've been the most logical to bring him arrested. I mean, 1989 Soviet Union wasn't equally openly homicidal as 1949 Soviet Union, no? In any case, I wouldn't call it ''getting away'', as his most likely fate is a life in prison. Irma Bunt, on the other hand...
@@AlirioAguero2 I agree - it is very ambiguous. I just took the "diplomatic bag" as meaning that Koskov is no longer a VIP, and will be treated to a journey in the hold - before getting whatever punishment is due back home. Otherwise why not just shoot him on the spot?
Calvin, you missed a brilliant opportunity for a double entendre that Roger Moore would have been proud of. When talking about Nick Nack and his arrest, surely you could have said "Nick Nack would be handed over to the authorities in whichever port Bond decides to dock his junk in."
I never thought the photographer from Dr No was particularly evil or nasty, she was just desperate and terrified of what Dr No would do to her if she failed her mission or betrayed his plans.
I get your reasoning, and that would certainly been a great way to play it (and perhaps how the screenplay intended) - but all I see on the actors face is anger and aggression, no fear or remorse.
Professor Butcher was one of my favorites, and the way he called out "bless your heart" was such amazing characterization given the character had, like, a minute or two of screen time.
Trevelyan survived the fall off the cradle, who's to say he didn't survive it falling on him and exploding? Guess we'll have to wait for 007 Racing 2 :) He does show up in TWINE64 battle mode though...hmmm
@@b.chaline4394 I always thought that was Vesper screaming because she was startled by the gun shots after all we don't know what le chiffre's goons did to her before that
Valenka is implied to be killed, along with the rest, as there were multiple gunshots, and M stated that they killed La Chiffre and his people. However, if she had reappeared alive later on, it wouldn't have been an actual plot-hole, since we never see her die.
I actually thought it was quite ridiculous how 006 moved even a little bit after he hit the ground from falling from way up in the sky. This one scene has me questioning how GoldenEye is revered so highly
@@crazypomp927 I agree. I love the movie. I just wonder why they chose to have him move at all instead of just laying there dead. After a fall from such the height that he fell from...... I wonder how any director would have made the decision or thought that it was normal for him not to be instantly dead lol.
I read an interesting review of 'Tomorrow Never Dies' that suggested the best comeuppance for Elliot Carver would have been for him to be taken into custody and be the center of worldwide media attention during his trial and imprisonment. I guess that would take too much screen time, or be difficult to get across if handled indirectly, but it would be a really ironic end for his plans.
Hmm I dunno- that humiliation would have come only from the schadenfreude of his fellow exploitative media moguls. I'd find it hard to laugh along with people like that.
Head canon: after L&LD, Bond runs into a man named Rourke, who agrees to take Nick Nack in custody, keeping him forever on an island which is later converted into a fantastic resort destination …
Hey Calvin, I am a 12 year Bond Fan, it is amazing to watch someone whom I agree with. I’ve read all the books and watched all the movies, and I’ve read all of the adaptations of Ian Fleming’s magical novels.
You remind me of a younger version of myself. I watched and read everything Bond when I was your age. I even got my hands on verry old copies of the Ian Fleming books. It is great to know there are young fans out there. All the best.
I always see it that Baron Samedi is dead and it's his ghost on the front of the train, otherwise how would he get there? I always love that appearance by him though. A chilling way to end an entry that flirts with the supernatural.
You people take these things too seriously/literally. I don't think it was meant to be taken literally. Imo, it's just a meta/4th wall break wink to the audience to end the picture.
Nope. Sorry, I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but the fact that Jaws never died on screen in The Spy Who Loved Me was the reason he haunted my nightmares as a kid. He was cruel, malicious, and disturbingly sadistic with his killing methods. In my head cannon, he was stuck to the magnet, and was eaten by the shark at the end of the film, as indeed was his original fate. Again, I know people love the guy, but he scared me shitless. Richard on the other hand was an absolute gent, and I’m really glad to have a personalised autograph from him.
Baron Samedi also returned as a boss in the second bonus level of Goldeneye on N64. He also didn't die there - unless you use the 2.1 controller setup to glitch kill him in the closing cutscene.
I kind of like it when Bond films don’t always follow the formula, but whenever the villain survives, I kind of hope they’ll come back. And almost always, with the exception of Blofeld and Jaws they don’t comeback
I'm surprised you missed general chang from tomorrow never dies. Considering he only pops up in one shot he's a big part of carvers plan and his fate is never addressed.
More is made of him in Raymond Benson’s novelisation, where his role is expanded and he gets his comeuppance - he’s arrested in the Ho Chi Minh City CMGN building, trying to hide in a toilet.
Am I the only one who thinks that the opening scene of For Your Eyes Only would work perfectly if instead of Stravo it had been Irma? So, since Blofeld does not reappear, one would believe that he died in Diamonds Are Forever at the hands of Conery.
@@pekenoval8658 It's a neat idea, but I think the issue with having Bond dispatching Irma Bunt in the opening of FYEO is watchers KNOWING who she is and her significance. Only strong Bond fans would know her character and if the producers had needed to be as similarly vague about her identity as they did Blofeld, due to Kevin McClory's then-control over Blofeld and SPECTRE IP, then I think it would have been some random older lady getting offed.
@@pekenoval8658 Irma Bunt could be in pre-titles sequence on ''Diamonds Are Forever'', in the role of one of the two Blofeld's men - the one who Bond kills with scalpel - played by Rachel Roberts
I love your video. I have another idea of a character who definitely deserved punishment. The black man who kills the agent at his own funeral in live and let die and who kills strutter.
I think the line at the end is a reference to him being executed and sent home in a body bag that can't be inspected because it's "diplomatic" and protected.
"The Bond series is known for recasting roles; Thunderball through Diamonds Are Forever have a different actor playing Blofeld in each one." I feel like there's a more obvious example than Blofeld... 🤔
what i like is that they recast some roles but keep another even more than bond himself like moneypenny m and q, but if i remember well in the 80s was a russian general that was in moore bond and then appeared in daltons too
I always saw Baron Samedi surviving at the end of Live as a nod to the actual VooDoo spirit of the dead and resurrection Baron Samedi but leaving it up to the viewer whether to believe that or simply that the character faked his snake bite death and was still out perhaps plotting revenge. Jaw was always the big redemption arc villain and I think just a fan favorite- he definitely deserved a second reformed chance, despite all the grisly murders and such.
From the Bond Wiki [which backs you up]: 'In the novel Live and Let Die, Baron Samedi is described as the voodoo spirit of darkness and death. Many people in Harlem and elsewhere believe the novel's main villain, Mr. Big, to be a manifestation of Samedi himself or perhaps his zombie'.
Surprised you didn’t mention Jaws’ return in the Everything or Nothing video game: After the events of ‘Moonraker’, Jaws realised that, despite what he thought he saw, Dolly didn’t actually have braces. He swore he saw braces on her teeth in Rio, but she insisted she never had any dental work done. They tried to settle down and start a normal life, but Jaws couldn’t let it go: he remained convinced about the braces and was determined to prove it, much to Dolly’s displeasure. Jaws was insistent - after all, it was their common ground, it was what brought them together. Dolly was somewhat offended: she thought he loved her for who she was and her personality, not just for her teeth. Sadly, Jaws became so ensnared in the conspiracy theory that his girlfriend had always worn braces and their removal was some sort of sinister plot that he didn’t notice Dolly had left him until she was already gone. He realised too late that it wasn’t whether her smile had braces or not that was the important thing, it was that she was smiling at him. Alone, despondent, depressed, and with only himself to blame, Jaws went back to his life of crime. He returned to the Villainous Henchman Talent Agency and was subsequently booked for a job by Nikolai Diavolo. Does he survive to the end of EON? Is there a little coda of him getting up and dusting himself off? It’s been a while since I played it, I can’t remember.
Indeed! His fate is inconclusive if I remember correctly, no reason to think he died but they don't 100% confirm it in the game... I rather enjoyed your breakdown of how their relationship worked out!!! I'd buy it!!
The fact that Solitaire lost her vodou psychic powers makes it an actual part of Live & Let Die. In vodou Baron Samedi is the loa (spirit) of resurrection. So he is definitely alive at the end.
Great video as always Calvin but I have to say - your Q briefing of the Ekster wallet was phenomenal. It got me to actually make a purchase. Thank you sir!
Especially after his career best performance in Chernobyl I could easily have imagined EON going "Oh yeah, remember that Guy Haines character we did nothing with in QoS? Lets bring Paul Ritter back for the next film after NTTD!". It was sad seeing his state of health in the Friday Night Dinner special.
@@SergioMach7 Yeah it was tough to watch the interview in that special. He looked like he'd aged 10 years since series 6 [which was just a year previously]. Very sad...
I always took the line to imply Koskov was executed. And it is nice to see Bond's colloboration with Pushkin get a pay-off like that, I like the ending. I agree the photographer in Dr. No gets let off too easily.
In my headcanon, Bond did indeed disposed of Irma Bunt - probably in a gruesome fashion, off-screen - before he went after "Blofeld" in the pre-title sequence in *"Diamonds Are Forever".*
Nick Nack deserves credit solely for being practically the only Bond baddie who bests Bond in a fight (by smacking him round the head with a spade) and then wanting to simply kill him there and then with no stupid extravagance. It's only Hai Fat who inexplicably prevents Nick Nack from making a Bond kebab and decides to have 007 sent to a martial arts school to recover and then be killed (?)
What happened to Guy Haines? Well, as someone working for the PM, when the 2010 general election brought in a new PM, Haines lost his job. Thus, he was no longer of any use to Quantum and they planned to have him killed because he knew too much to live. Knowing they were out to get him, Haines decided to take the Quantum top brass down with him: he planted a bomb in the same theatre that Quantum were using to have a meeting in during a performance of ‘The Pirates of Penzance’. The explosion killed most of the senior members of Quantum and, in the resulting power vacuum, a low-ranking member called Ernst Stavro Blofeld managed to seize power and began the corporate rebranding into Spectre. Or maybe not, just a guess.
@@calvindyson Glad to hear! Currently working on my Magnum Opus _Kutze’s Long Swim Home_ - detailing what happened to the nuclear physicist at the end of Thunderball, left behind in the ocean with nothing but a life-ring while Bond & Domino get flown away - with a cameo appearance in the post-credits scene where Kutze gets back to his University lecturing job and it’s revealed one of his students in his Nuclear Physics 101 class is a bright young woman called Christmas Jones. Hopefully I can sell the script to Amazon if they start making Bond Expanded Universe stuff.
Now that I think of it, if Spectre is indeed being taken out in NTTD as Calvin speculates that it will be, maybe there will be something about Guy Haines being present and killed.
Maybe, but not conclusive. Quantum was obviously supposed to be a stand-in for Spectre in the Craig universe before EON regained the rights to use Spectre only a few years ago. It is never clearly stated whether Quantum was just a smoke and mirrors name for Spectre, or was it an entirely different organization manipulated by them from the shadows. If the latter, Haines could have easily been the unknowing accomplice of Spectre through his own interests in Quantum. It's not elaborated detailed enough.
I think that scene with Baron Samadie was a metaphor for how death follows bond everywhere he goes or atleast that’s what someone on another post thought.
Jaws' little arc of redemption always worked for me. Like as scary and murderous as he was even in TSWLM, I always got the vibe that he was just doing his job and by Moonraker just got sick of being a rich man's bitch for hire.
7:50 They should have just cut Whittaker out and have Koskov be the sole mastermind. An ending confrontation like Thunderball [Koskov fights Bond and Karla finishes him off] probably was too obvious but would have fit better.
Though it would be similar to Thunderball, given Koskov betrayed her twice in the film-having Karla pose as the assassin [in a move that would have lead to her death if Bond hadn't gone against orders] and then double cross her in Afghanistan, it feels like a missed opportunity not to have Karla finish off Koskov or have her involved in his capture.
In ''Diamonds Are Forever'' at pre-titles sequence, one of Blofeld's two men, the one who Bond kills with scalpel, should be Irma Bunt (played by Rachel Roberts).
I’ve always thought that Baron Samedi easily survived the snakes and faked his death, after all all he did was jump up and down in the casket and make fake death sounds. Plus the snakes wouldnt have been able to kill him in a few seconds, he probably climbed out of the casket after bond left, and easily survived the ordeal to appear at the end of the film.
I'd be interested to see you discuss the alternative, Characters (not necessarily just villains) who you think should have lived, such as Electra and Plenty.
A lot of the sacrificial lambs fall into that category for me as most mere just innocent pawns [Corrine in Moonraker for example or Vijay in Octopussy].
For Baron Samedi, I personally saw it as since it's implied that he can't actually die, you have to kind of give him a deserved by default. That, or do what you did with Blofeld and omit him from the list entirely.
Always annoyed me when people said that Jaws "turned good", he was quite happy to assist Drax with his plan to genocide the human race, he only "turned good" when he realised Drax ultimately had no place for him in his utopia.
@@andrewklang809 In Kim Possible, there is a HENCHCO. What if that's where Drax hired Jaws? Somehow a shared universe of James Bond and Kim Possible is more plausible than the cursed codename theory.
Quite incredible Calvin! It’s quite strange that absolutely nasty villains get away with it. I however don’t think this takes away form the integrity of the series. Why? That is life, sometimes the bad ones get away.
The largest number of Bond villains surviving was in the seventies...Bambi and Thumper, Mr. Mortimer, nameless I-got-a-bruhduh goon, Tee Hee (Everyone survives being thrown from a train...you really think Hinx is dead?)...perhaps Whisper, certainly Mr. "Hey for $20 I'll take you to a KKK cookout!", Lazar, Knick Knack, Jaws and perhaps Dolly if you count her as a baddie...there are others. I think EON missed a major bet when they did not join them together for a heist film ala the whole Ocean's franchise with maybe Rog with a cameo...seeing what is going on...raising an eyebrow...shaking his head, deciding life is too short, and walking away. Sherrif JW Pepper perhaps could be the foil. And PS...at the end of LALD...that is the real Baron Samedi on the train! Fleming did allow supernatural elements in his works...not many but a few...Solitaire for one and the Gypsy in FRWL who tells Bond's and Kerim's futures both of which come true.
Hinx is totally still alive. If the train was on a bridge or something, or if he'd fallen UNDER the train, then I'd disagree, but Hinx is totally alive.
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer The intention is that he broke his neck when yanked out of the train, killing him. Of course if Bautista was free for the later parts of Spectre or NTTD it might have been ambiguous but given he wasn't [and the Craig films are now over] it's his demise.
I can agree with all the henchmen you said deserve to be let off to be honest. Jaws redeemed himself, Butcher and Whisper were ultimately harmless, Miss Taro had no choice, Nick Nack was overwhelmed and Samedi could’ve easily survived.
Something I find rather amusing about Prof Joe Butcher is that apparently the phrase "Bless your heart" is Southern slang for go fuck yourself. If this is true, when he's doing his televangelist work, he's telling Sanchez's buyers to go fuck themselves.
Did Blofeld ever officially die? Diamonds are Forever does not show him dead and I'm unsure if you can count the For your Eyes Only unofficial (no Kevin McClorly we swear it's not really Blofeld, wink-wink) cameo .
I would argue that now that they have full rights it is confirmed that it was him in the original canon. Then again, knowing it's freaking Blofeld he could've managed to survive that fall, as well.
John Glenn declared the pre-title sequence of For Your Eyes only as a mini sequel to OHMSS on the DVD commentary and it was Blofeld who died in that sequence.
There were plans to bring Jaws back for For Your Eyes Only in which he would marry Dolly, his girlfriend from Moonraker. However due to a change in production personnel and the desire to make the films more down-to-earth, the producers chose not to bring back Jaws altogether
There's potential for an episode of top ten 'wait what?' Moments in 007 movies. How did Jaws and girlfriend survive space station plummet in Moonraker? Also at 10:57, who is telling Nick Nack to "Shut up?" Because it ain't Roger's voice! Why does Tracy's father in OHMSS switch from an Italian accent to American periodically? There you go, you can have thst idea for free! ;)
Oh and the "I had a hat when I came in" line from Thunderball. A funny line to weasel out of an awkward moment for Bond, except, his hat really did go missing! And there's only Moneypenny working in the reception!
On a different note let me recommend two films. First, one of the finest espionage films, 1965's "The Spy Who Came in from the Cold." Based on John le Carré's 1963 novel it stars Richard Burton and Claire Bloom. It was nominated for six BAFTAs winning four, including Burton for Best British Actor. (I make a distinction between espionage films, which are realistic depictions, and super-spy movies, like the Bond films. FWIW, my favorite Bond film is From Russia with Love.) Second, you should have a look at the original, 1968 Thomas Crown Affair. It is more important in cinema history, because of its innovative editing, has a great score by Michel LeGrand, is not as gimmicky, and Faye Dunaway > Rene Russo.
I like to think Irma Bunt died between OHMSS and DAF. Bond was in hot pursuit and Blofeld was just so much more difficult to find. Koskov was probably executed offscreen the question is was it right away or after being sent to Moscow? Whisper I thought was just arrested but...that depends if someone's willing to go there and let him out. Surely he has enough air to survive until someone lets him out. Right? Samedi tbh I always considered deceased with the last shot being nothing more than a joke especially with him looking straight at the camera but it's clearly meant to be taken with good humor regardless it's not like he's ever going to be menacing Bond again.
Something that puzzles me about Knick-Knack is that he seeks revenge on Bond at all. He tells Bond during the duel that if Scaramanga dies, he stands to inherit his fortune. So why not just enjoy his inheritance? Sure Scaramanga's island is ruined, but his bank account should still be enormous. A million dollars a hit over 20 years; the little guy should be set.
It really feels forced because the previous two films [directed by Guy Hamilton and at least partly written by Tom Mankiewicz] ended with the surviving hench people attacking Bond. Going through the same motions with Nick Nack is half hearted to say the least.
He sadly passed away in April from a brain tumor at the too early age of 54. Skyfall actress Helen McCrory also passed away in April from Cancer at only 52-such a sad month.
Er... Koskov was executed, the diplomatic bag is enough of a clue. As for Joe Butcher, yeah he got away... mind you it would have been advisable for him to leave the continent... I wonder if he found a gig in Butlins? I agree the photographer deserves a harsher punishment... mind you this is a woman who IMO would welcome punishment since she seems like a woman who dishes out and welcomes what she receives. If she ever got married, her partner was on one hell of a nightmarish ride.
Well, it’s a clue of course but we don’t see him killed so does it count as a death if it’s just implied off screen? Schrödinger's Koskov? ;) Not that I consider 007 Racing canon but it’s still an official product and someone somewhere approved the idea that he could still be alive after TLD. I think it’s inconclusive even though yes, Pushkin’s comments imply he’d be executed.
I also understood the diplomatic bag as a clear order for execution, as to fit in a bag for documents he would have to be in pieces. Technically a diplomatic bag can also be a crate or larger container, but how big would the bag from the Soviet embassy to Tunisia usually be?
In the 1980's there were several cases of LIVING people being smuggled out in diplomatic bags so the implication is that he'll have a rough journey but not necessarily a lethal one.
@@calvindyson As someone who's hobby (or rather one of mutlitudes of hobbies) is accounting very oddly inclusive bodycounts of movies (taxidermy, anyone?), I'd say there's enough implication to put him on the bodycount... But usually such cases are accounted as "debatable". I've encountered that problem a lot with my bodycount of The Terminator (so far crown achievement of that hobby given that yes, I've accounted all the skeletal remains; Film Bodycounts Wiki if you're interested): a lot of people just assume that Terminator kills all three of the punks and some point out that in the original script and novelization that is indeed the case. However, there were last minute reshoots on a different location which made the fate of both punks really ambiguous with a hint of surviving.
Calvin, you do know that General Koskov is dead, right? At the end of The Living Daylights Pushkin says "Put him on the next plane to Moscow... In the diplomatic bag!" as in take him outside and execute him for treason. 007 Racing isn't canon, that game is in an alternate continuity.
Irma Bunt could be in pre-titles sequence on ''Diamonds Are Forever'', in the role of one of the two Blofeld's men - the one who Bond kills with scalpel - played by Rachel Roberts.
My head canon for Bond involves four continuities; 1. The Connery Eon films or, if you jettison Thunderball, all the other Connery Eon films, plus NSNA later in his career. That way Bond being in Japan at the start of DAF, and Blofeld having plastic surgery to impersonate Henderson (to presumably have safe passage out of Japan) makes a (kind-of) sense. We know Spectre have, by this point in time, perfected voice-replication technology- so Blofeld having Henderson’s voice as well makes a kind-of in-universe sense. Especially when he retains Pleasance-Blofeld’s fashion sense (beige Nehru jacket, anyone?). 2. Lazenby and Moore as one Bond, played by two actors. By TSWLM it’s clear that Moore’s Bond has been married, and by the pre-titles of FYEO we get confirmation that these mentions relate to the OHMSS timeline, with Tracy’s headstone. Then “Blofeld” appears, with the same neck brace as in the final scene of OHMSS. Starting off with a different continuity also explains how Bond and Blofeld haven’t met before the events of OHMSS - at the start of the film Bond’s only stated as having been tracking Blofeld, with no specific mention of any previous face to face encounters. 3. Dalton and Brosnan. Again, one Bond, played by two actors. Place the pre-titles of Goldeneye before TLD (it’s even stated to take place in ‘86), and the timeline makes sense. Bond’s jaded attitude to the job in ‘87 in TLD could be put down to having supposedly seen Trevelyan killed the year before. After going rogue in LTK he’s eventually brought back into the fold, but had to undergo evaluations, as well as to try and impress the incoming new M. 4. The Craig era. The issue of M appearing in this and the previous continuity isn’t an issue for me. Many of the MI6 regulars, and Felix, have re-appereared/ been recast before. In the second (Moore/Lazenby) continuity it’s entirely possible for Irma Bunt to have either gone to ground completely, or been killed by Bond between OHMSS and LALD. Or maybe even, like the actress herself, just died of natural causes. Whatever happened, she didn’t survive long enough to plead with Bond for her life with the promise of a stainless steel delicatessen.
It actually makes you wonder what happened to these villains. Hell, if you watch Inspector Gadget 1999 film, you actually see Jaws at a meeting at the end of the film.😀
Guy Haines - Likely arrested or at least relieved from his duty, as we don't see him among the Prime Minister's posey in Skyfall. General Koskov - Arrested. Either sentenced to a life in gulag, or (as some are suggesting), executed off-screen. But he doesn't get away with it either way. Irma Bunt - Yeah, she technically gets away with it, as she is never seen again. I wish if she had been a part of Diamonds are forever. Miss Taro - Arrested Nick Nack - Arrested Whisper - Arrested The Photographer - Gets away with it. Baron Samedi - I don't know what happens to him, actually. He might have faked his own death, might have been resurrected, might have been only a fourth wall nod to the audiences. I'm going with voodoo magic resurrection. If alive (or undead), I'm sure he'll continue to be a local problem, but very contained. Without Kananga, he doesn't have the resourced to go global. Jaws - Gets away with it, but finds love and stops being a threat. Although it's never actually said, I always assumed that he was somewhat mentally disabled, and heavily manipulated by his employers. Out of all these, I only assume that Irma Bunt might present an actual challenge later on.
I am wondering if Mr Hinx will return in a future Bond film as his end in Spectre was fairly ambiguous and the train fight was just before the third act, resulting in a really unsatisfying outcome. You would swear he was going to return for a stinger fight at the end of the film. Maybe that will be in a future film, and Batista is now a big name draw for upcoming films now.
Agreed. Being yanked from a speeding train by your neck SHOULD be fatal, but henchpeople survive worse all the time. I was completely expecting him to show reappear in SPECTRE to go another round with Bond (which theoretically could still happen, I suppose).
Given the film's 3rd act was being re-worked during filming, I guess Dave Bautista wasn't available when they shot that part-hence his apparent demise being a bit abrupt. Given the sequel to No time to die will almost certainly be some kind of reboot I doubt he'll be seen again though Daniel Craig obviously liked working with him as there re-teaming for Knives Out 2.
OHMSS was definitely written out of the continuity. At least for Connery Bond. (Specifically canon for Moore Bond.). Notice how mean M is to Bond in DAF for going after Blofeld. Also notice moneypenny’s joke about wanting a “diamond in a ring.” Moneypenny was at the wedding and would never have made that joke. Also Bond in DAF doesn’t show any hate or intense feeling towards blofeld in this film. QED. Connery Bond never married. But Moore Bond and Dalton Bond did.
My head canon is that the films go 'you only live twice' [Bond meets Blofeld for the first time], 'Diamonds are forever' [Bond catches up with Blofeld and he's presumed dead in the oil rig], OHMSS [Blofeld escaped and Bond has been on the hunt for him for two years], 'For Your Eyes Only' [Bond finally kills Blofeld]. It fits better with the issues you've described even if it probably doesn't fit perfectly.
@@jamesatkinsonja Yes, and there you can also read it as referring to Prince Charming in Cinderella if you don't want to believe Lazenby Bond means Connery Bond (or is talking to us). I do notice that M's reaction, about now Bond is back he can hopefully get some work out of him, would be an insensitive thing to say to Bond after he's been on Compassionate Leave.
That was based on John Pearson's book where he sets up Bunt for a novel he was intending to write as a follow up. I guess Benson thought he'd wrap that up and Bond's son in a short story to get it out of the way [she's definitely dead in Fleming's books].
I know you said about Wister .. in Live and Let die but what about Baron Samedi,? he comes back to live and you see him laughing on the train at the end of the film
I never thought Nic Nak was upset Scaramanga was killed. Only that Bond (Actually Goodnight) blew up the island and all the wealth Nic Nak was hoping to get.
I always loved seeing Baron Samedi survive. It totally added to his legend. Made it look like he really was more of a being than a person.
Baron Samedi is the name of a real deity (?) in voodoo, so I think the implication is that the film character is the **real** Baron Samedi.
I thought it was awesome too and creepy.
Ive always had a fan theory in my head that Max Zorin somehow survived his fall off the Golden Gate bridge, moved to Gotham City and created a new identity for himself as another ruthless billionaire: Max Schrek :-)
I like that theory.
Or that Drax was picked up by an intergalactic ambulance ship and nursed back to health.
@@bindgagger Moonraker was petty out there but not to that extent!
@@jamesatkinsonja no no I'm pretty sure Drax being saved by intergalactic beings was Fleming's intension all along.
And Max Schreck speaks with no German accent and is too serious yeah I don't buy that
I always assumed the “diplomatic bag” was surely a phrase for sending Kosovo back in a body bag, so pretty sure he certainly did not get away ! Anyway Calvin “bless your heart” for looking on the positive side for him.
Diplomatic bags are sent between embassies and the home country (and vice versa) and usually contain documents and secret material. To inspect them is a violation of international law. I understood the order to send him in the diplomatic bag to involve dismemberment to get him to fit. Note:technically large duffel bags and even crates can be designated as diplomatic bags, but because Pushkin did not specify a larger container I understand his order to refer to the regular bag for documents.
Maybe - just maybe - the German version can clarify that, since General Pushkin's order at the end of "Living Daylights" in the German version translates to: "Send him with the next plane to Moscow - as diplomat's ashes."
So: No, Koskov did not get away in my opinion. I always had the feeling that they would take him out in the back yard of Whitaker's house and just shoot him there.
Dismembered or not, Koskov died in all likelihood 🤔😑
It's ambigous at best. There is nothing explicitly stating his fate. If anything, after so many people witnessing his arrest in a foreign country, I always thought that it would've been the most logical to bring him arrested. I mean, 1989 Soviet Union wasn't equally openly homicidal as 1949 Soviet Union, no? In any case, I wouldn't call it ''getting away'', as his most likely fate is a life in prison.
Irma Bunt, on the other hand...
@@AlirioAguero2 I agree - it is very ambiguous. I just took the "diplomatic bag" as meaning that Koskov is no longer a VIP, and will be treated to a journey in the hold - before getting whatever punishment is due back home. Otherwise why not just shoot him on the spot?
Calvin, you missed a brilliant opportunity for a double entendre that Roger Moore would have been proud of. When talking about Nick Nack and his arrest, surely you could have said "Nick Nack would be handed over to the authorities in whichever port Bond decides to dock his junk in."
I never thought the photographer from Dr No was particularly evil or nasty, she was just desperate and terrified of what Dr No would do to her if she failed her mission or betrayed his plans.
I get your reasoning, and that would certainly been a great way to play it (and perhaps how the screenplay intended) - but all I see on the actors face is anger and aggression, no fear or remorse.
Professor Butcher was one of my favorites, and the way he called out "bless your heart" was such amazing characterization given the character had, like, a minute or two of screen time.
Trevelyan survived the fall off the cradle, who's to say he didn't survive it falling on him and exploding? Guess we'll have to wait for 007 Racing 2 :) He does show up in TWINE64 battle mode though...hmmm
I am sorry, but Sean Bean is only allowed to survivr Silent Hill the Movie One and Sharpe's Rifles.
@@DIEGhostfish He survived The Martian and Ronin
@@CraigSteelyard I totally forgot that they don't shoot him after he gets the Boat House question wrong.
@@CraigSteelyardand National Treasure
Le Chiffre's girlfriend who poisonned Bond has no onscreen death and it's unclear if Mr White killed her or not.
He totally did kill her, we hear a female scream along with the gunshots
@@b.chaline4394 I always thought that was Vesper screaming because she was startled by the gun shots after all we don't know what le chiffre's goons did to her before that
@@GrosvnerMcaffrey I'm pretty sure the scream was Le Chiffre's girl. She should have taken that one guys' advice "Get a new boyfriend."
@@shanewilliams9122 what makes you think that?
Valenka is implied to be killed, along with the rest, as there were multiple gunshots, and M stated that they killed La Chiffre and his people. However, if she had reappeared alive later on, it wouldn't have been an actual plot-hole, since we never see her die.
The glasses make you look like Boris Grishenko from Goldeneye. "I am invincible!" 👍 (he definitely dies).
Definitely the best villain who ALMOST survived but didn't.
I'm still holding out for a Captain America-style thawing out for him in a future instalment.
I actually thought it was quite ridiculous how 006 moved even a little bit after he hit the ground from falling from way up in the sky. This one scene has me questioning how GoldenEye is revered so highly
@@randallrutherford1384 because everything else about it is close to perfect. A bit of unrealism in Trevelyan's death is incredibly minor.
@@crazypomp927 I agree. I love the movie. I just wonder why they chose to have him move at all instead of just laying there dead. After a fall from such the height that he fell from...... I wonder how any director would have made the decision or thought that it was normal for him not to be instantly dead lol.
I read an interesting review of 'Tomorrow Never Dies' that suggested the best comeuppance for Elliot Carver would have been for him to be taken into custody and be the center of worldwide media attention during his trial and imprisonment. I guess that would take too much screen time, or be difficult to get across if handled indirectly, but it would be a really ironic end for his plans.
I would have loved this. This is such good and big Karma.
Yeah, "Killed by a big drill" seems like a random death they pulled out of a hat.
Yeah!!!!!!
Hmm I dunno- that humiliation would have come only from the schadenfreude of his fellow exploitative media moguls. I'd find it hard to laugh along with people like that.
Yeah!!!!!
11:46. Oh God, him again! Will someone please help that man? Someone? Anyone?
I wish I had but a tiny fraction of that guys energy!!
Yeah, poor bloke is just crying for help
Head canon: after L&LD, Bond runs into a man named Rourke, who agrees to take Nick Nack in custody, keeping him forever on an island which is later converted into a fantastic resort destination …
There're some really good theories in this thread.
You mean after MWTGG
Hey Calvin, I am a 12 year Bond Fan, it is amazing to watch someone whom I agree with. I’ve read all the books and watched all the movies, and I’ve read all of the adaptations of Ian Fleming’s magical novels.
You remind me of a younger version of myself. I watched and read everything Bond when I was your age. I even got my hands on verry old copies of the Ian Fleming books. It is great to know there are young fans out there. All the best.
@@DCDPM I think he meant he'd been a Bond fan for 12 years
I always see it that Baron Samedi is dead and it's his ghost on the front of the train, otherwise how would he get there? I always love that appearance by him though. A chilling way to end an entry that flirts with the supernatural.
I think that is an apparition as well.
Or was it????
You people take these things too seriously/literally.
I don't think it was meant to be taken literally.
Imo, it's just a meta/4th wall break wink to the audience to end the picture.
What’s the assumption that he was ever alive to begin with?
Nope. Sorry, I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but the fact that Jaws never died on screen in The Spy Who Loved Me was the reason he haunted my nightmares as a kid. He was cruel, malicious, and disturbingly sadistic with his killing methods. In my head cannon, he was stuck to the magnet, and was eaten by the shark at the end of the film, as indeed was his original fate. Again, I know people love the guy, but he scared me shitless. Richard on the other hand was an absolute gent, and I’m really glad to have a personalised autograph from him.
Baron Samedi also returned as a boss in the second bonus level of Goldeneye on N64. He also didn't die there - unless you use the 2.1 controller setup to glitch kill him in the closing cutscene.
I kind of like it when Bond films don’t always follow the formula, but whenever the villain survives, I kind of hope they’ll come back. And almost always, with the exception of Blofeld and Jaws they don’t comeback
I understand, I hope to see Mr Hinx come back in the next Bond movie (though I doubt that it will happen).
@@cosmedelustrac5842 He's definitely not [unless in a secret cameo like Judi Dench].
Hinx should have been in NTTD in the place of the bionic eyed henchman; he was good, but Dave Batista is better.
@@danjonmills I'm guessing Bautista wasn't free [he later did 'Knives Out 2' with Craig].
Jaws lived to complete the Cannonball Run
I'm surprised you missed general chang from tomorrow never dies. Considering he only pops up in one shot he's a big part of carvers plan and his fate is never addressed.
Ahhh! You’re quite right! He is another more significant one. Particularly as he’s a big part of Wai Lin’s motivations
He had been Chinese secret service from the start...first assignment spy on Dr. No which he miraculously survived...
More is made of him in Raymond Benson’s novelisation, where his role is expanded and he gets his comeuppance - he’s arrested in the Ho Chi Minh City CMGN building, trying to hide in a toilet.
Very good point. For a character with such a bearing on the plot it's amazing to think that he is barely present.
His plan is the one that makes sense, not carvers
I can't stand the fact that Irma Blunt survived in the EON canon, it's just unfair.
Even a line of dialogue noting she was first on Bond's hit list and was pushing up daisies would have been something!
Am I the only one who thinks that the opening scene of For Your Eyes Only would work perfectly if instead of Stravo it had been Irma? So, since Blofeld does not reappear, one would believe that he died in Diamonds Are Forever at the hands of Conery.
@@pekenoval8658 makes sense
@@pekenoval8658 It's a neat idea, but I think the issue with having Bond dispatching Irma Bunt in the opening of FYEO is watchers KNOWING who she is and her significance. Only strong Bond fans would know her character and if the producers had needed to be as similarly vague about her identity as they did Blofeld, due to Kevin McClory's then-control over Blofeld and SPECTRE IP, then I think it would have been some random older lady getting offed.
@@pekenoval8658 Irma Bunt could be in pre-titles sequence on ''Diamonds Are Forever'', in the role of one of the two Blofeld's men - the one who Bond kills with scalpel - played by Rachel Roberts
I love your video. I have another idea of a character who definitely deserved punishment. The black man who kills the agent at his own funeral in live and let die and who kills strutter.
Always wondered what happened to him
Koskoff surely got executed after the dealings he pulled in Afghanistan. Can’t imagine the Soviet Union would’ve been forgiving.
I think the line at the end is a reference to him being executed and sent home in a body bag that can't be inspected because it's "diplomatic" and protected.
"The Bond series is known for recasting roles; Thunderball through Diamonds Are Forever have a different actor playing Blofeld in each one." I feel like there's a more obvious example than Blofeld... 🤔
How about Felix Leiter?
what i like is that they recast some roles but keep another even more than bond himself like moneypenny m and q, but if i remember well in the 80s was a russian general that was in moore bond and then appeared in daltons too
I always saw Baron Samedi surviving at the end of Live as a nod to the actual VooDoo spirit of the dead and resurrection Baron Samedi but leaving it up to the viewer whether to believe that or simply that the character faked his snake bite death and was still out perhaps plotting revenge. Jaw was always the big redemption arc villain and I think just a fan favorite- he definitely deserved a second reformed chance, despite all the grisly murders and such.
"Do you wanna read my thesis?" - LMAO!!! Brilliant, sir!
I always thought it was implied that Baron Samedi died centuries ago and was resurrected by Kananga, thus making him immortal.
From the Bond Wiki [which backs you up]: 'In the novel Live and Let Die, Baron Samedi is described as the voodoo spirit of darkness and death. Many people in Harlem and elsewhere believe the novel's main villain, Mr. Big, to be a manifestation of Samedi himself or perhaps his zombie'.
I've always thought that was meant to be the real Baron Samedi at the end of Live and Let Die because, of course, Death always travels with Bond.
The reflection of the lights (2:28) in Calvins glasses are hilarious. Should have got some of Peirce Brosnans X-ray specs from TWINE
2:45 is where it's at, you are feeling veerrryy sleeepy haha.
Surprised you didn’t mention Jaws’ return in the Everything or Nothing video game: After the events of ‘Moonraker’, Jaws realised that, despite what he thought he saw, Dolly didn’t actually have braces. He swore he saw braces on her teeth in Rio, but she insisted she never had any dental work done. They tried to settle down and start a normal life, but Jaws couldn’t let it go: he remained convinced about the braces and was determined to prove it, much to Dolly’s displeasure. Jaws was insistent - after all, it was their common ground, it was what brought them together. Dolly was somewhat offended: she thought he loved her for who she was and her personality, not just for her teeth. Sadly, Jaws became so ensnared in the conspiracy theory that his girlfriend had always worn braces and their removal was some sort of sinister plot that he didn’t notice Dolly had left him until she was already gone. He realised too late that it wasn’t whether her smile had braces or not that was the important thing, it was that she was smiling at him. Alone, despondent, depressed, and with only himself to blame, Jaws went back to his life of crime. He returned to the Villainous Henchman Talent Agency and was subsequently booked for a job by Nikolai Diavolo.
Does he survive to the end of EON? Is there a little coda of him getting up and dusting himself off? It’s been a while since I played it, I can’t remember.
Hell of a relationship breakdown 😆
Indeed! His fate is inconclusive if I remember correctly, no reason to think he died but they don't 100% confirm it in the game... I rather enjoyed your breakdown of how their relationship worked out!!! I'd buy it!!
A friend of mine joked that Jaws and Dolly retired to Blackpool to run a fish and chip shop as there conclusion!
@@calvindyson I liked the joke in your review that Dr Nadanova (Heidi Klum) was actually Dolly all along!
Sounds like the only plausible character arc for such a ridiculous plotline in Moonraker
Alive or at least undead...great closing phrase. I liked Irma Bunt, she was the same type of unimpressable woman as Rosa Klebb.
The fact that Solitaire lost her vodou psychic powers makes it an actual part of Live & Let Die. In vodou Baron Samedi is the loa (spirit) of resurrection. So he is definitely alive at the end.
Baron Samedi was dealt with by the conductor for riding the train without a ticket.
Great video as always Calvin but I have to say - your Q briefing of the Ekster wallet was phenomenal. It got me to actually make a purchase. Thank you sir!
the nightfire music playing in the background is too good :') love the videos man
R.I.P to Paul Ritter.
Especially after his career best performance in Chernobyl I could easily have imagined EON going "Oh yeah, remember that Guy Haines character we did nothing with in QoS? Lets bring Paul Ritter back for the next film after NTTD!". It was sad seeing his state of health in the Friday Night Dinner special.
I never knew that was him til now
@@SergioMach7 Yeah it was tough to watch the interview in that special. He looked like he'd aged 10 years since series 6 [which was just a year previously]. Very sad...
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Neither did I. I was focusing on Bond taking pictures and the opera music.
I always took the line to imply Koskov was executed. And it is nice to see Bond's colloboration with Pushkin get a pay-off like that, I like the ending. I agree the photographer in Dr. No gets let off too easily.
I agree, the way Pushkin gives the order to his men and the look of terror on Koskov's face pretty much says that he is not going home alive.
In my headcanon, Bond did indeed
disposed of Irma Bunt - probably
in a gruesome fashion, off-screen -
before he went after "Blofeld" in the
pre-title sequence in *"Diamonds Are Forever".*
Nick Nack deserves credit solely for being practically the only Bond baddie who bests Bond in a fight (by smacking him round the head with a spade) and then wanting to simply kill him there and then with no stupid extravagance. It's only Hai Fat who inexplicably prevents Nick Nack from making a Bond kebab and decides to have 007 sent to a martial arts school to recover and then be killed (?)
These are always so wholesome. Remember when you had less than 10k subscribers!
What happened to Guy Haines? Well, as someone working for the PM, when the 2010 general election brought in a new PM, Haines lost his job. Thus, he was no longer of any use to Quantum and they planned to have him killed because he knew too much to live. Knowing they were out to get him, Haines decided to take the Quantum top brass down with him: he planted a bomb in the same theatre that Quantum were using to have a meeting in during a performance of ‘The Pirates of Penzance’. The explosion killed most of the senior members of Quantum and, in the resulting power vacuum, a low-ranking member called Ernst Stavro Blofeld managed to seize power and began the corporate rebranding into Spectre.
Or maybe not, just a guess.
I must say, I've quite enjoyed this BenCol fanfiction!!
@@calvindyson Glad to hear! Currently working on my Magnum Opus _Kutze’s Long Swim Home_ - detailing what happened to the nuclear physicist at the end of Thunderball, left behind in the ocean with nothing but a life-ring while Bond & Domino get flown away - with a cameo appearance in the post-credits scene where Kutze gets back to his University lecturing job and it’s revealed one of his students in his Nuclear Physics 101 class is a bright young woman called Christmas Jones. Hopefully I can sell the script to Amazon if they start making Bond Expanded Universe stuff.
In the german dubbing Koskov's upcoming fate is described a little more specific, as Gogol orders him to be sent home as 'diplomatic ashes'.
Great use of the suspense music from Nightfire. Def my favorite Bond game soundtrack
Thanks! And very much same here! 😁
Hey Calvin, NICE LOOK IN THE PURPLE SHIRT AND GLASSES!
If Guy Haines is a member of Quantum, he's a member of SPECTRE. Right?
Now that I think of it, if Spectre is indeed being taken out in NTTD as Calvin speculates that it will be, maybe there will be something about Guy Haines being present and killed.
Maybe, but not conclusive. Quantum was obviously supposed to be a stand-in for Spectre in the Craig universe before EON regained the rights to use Spectre only a few years ago. It is never clearly stated whether Quantum was just a smoke and mirrors name for Spectre, or was it an entirely different organization manipulated by them from the shadows. If the latter, Haines could have easily been the unknowing accomplice of Spectre through his own interests in Quantum. It's not elaborated detailed enough.
Quantum, thus Haines, was an arm (or tentacle) of Spectre, like Dominic Greene was.
@@danjonmills Good one, sir.
Absolutely I want to read your thesis!
I think that scene with Baron Samadie was a metaphor for how death follows bond everywhere he goes or atleast that’s what someone on another post thought.
Baron Samedi is literally the Voodoo Reaper. I would rather think he's just an apparition
Jaws' little arc of redemption always worked for me. Like as scary and murderous as he was even in TSWLM, I always got the vibe that he was just doing his job and by Moonraker just got sick of being a rich man's bitch for hire.
7:50 They should have just cut Whittaker out and have Koskov be the sole mastermind. An ending confrontation like Thunderball [Koskov fights Bond and Karla finishes him off] probably was too obvious but would have fit better.
Decent idea, except the Kara thing wouldn't have really worked. She is more of a Stacy Sutton then a Natalya from Goldeneye.
@@DarthUmbra Little harsh but I get the point!
The ending for Thunderball is itself a callback from FRWL (Klebb is shot to death by Tatiana Romanova). The ending for TLD is fine as it is!
Though it would be similar to Thunderball, given Koskov betrayed her twice in the film-having Karla pose as the assassin [in a move that would have lead to her death if Bond hadn't gone against orders] and then double cross her in Afghanistan, it feels like a missed opportunity not to have Karla finish off Koskov or have her involved in his capture.
@@DarthUmbra We never saw Domino even hold a weapon before she gets Largo, and it fits. If they had Kara kill Koskov, I could definitely believe it
In ''Diamonds Are Forever'' at pre-titles sequence, one of Blofeld's two men, the one who Bond kills with scalpel, should be Irma Bunt (played by Rachel Roberts).
I would love to read your thesis. When do you release them?
In today's episode, Calvin determines of fictional characters deserve to DIE.
I always think it's a little funny that Nick Nack puts the knife blade in his mouth the wrong way! 10:36 OUCH!
I’ve always thought that Baron Samedi easily survived the snakes and faked his death, after all all he did was jump up and down in the casket and make fake death sounds. Plus the snakes wouldnt have been able to kill him in a few seconds, he probably climbed out of the casket after bond left, and easily survived the ordeal to appear at the end of the film.
I'd be interested to see you discuss the alternative, Characters (not necessarily just villains) who you think should have lived, such as Electra and Plenty.
A lot of the sacrificial lambs fall into that category for me as most mere just innocent pawns [Corrine in Moonraker for example or Vijay in Octopussy].
You're assuming the photographer didn't get an offscreen death for her failure. Dr. No doesn't seem like a guy to tolerate failure.
For Baron Samedi, I personally saw it as since it's implied that he can't actually die, you have to kind of give him a deserved by default. That, or do what you did with Blofeld and omit him from the list entirely.
Always annoyed me when people said that Jaws "turned good", he was quite happy to assist Drax with his plan to genocide the human race, he only "turned good" when he realised Drax ultimately had no place for him in his utopia.
Jaws was just doing his job. A professional from HENCHMEN-R-US.
Love changed him.
@@andrewklang809 In Kim Possible, there is a HENCHCO. What if that's where Drax hired Jaws? Somehow a shared universe of James Bond and Kim Possible is more plausible than the cursed codename theory.
It's good that "Miss Taro" from Dr. No is mentioned, partly because she's the first femme fatale in any of the movies.
Quite incredible Calvin! It’s quite strange that absolutely nasty villains get away with it. I however don’t think this takes away form the integrity of the series. Why? That is life, sometimes the bad ones get away.
The largest number of Bond villains surviving was in the seventies...Bambi and Thumper, Mr. Mortimer, nameless I-got-a-bruhduh goon, Tee Hee (Everyone survives being thrown from a train...you really think Hinx is dead?)...perhaps Whisper, certainly Mr. "Hey for $20 I'll take you to a KKK cookout!", Lazar, Knick Knack, Jaws and perhaps Dolly if you count her as a baddie...there are others. I think EON missed a major bet when they did not join them together for a heist film ala the whole Ocean's franchise with maybe Rog with a cameo...seeing what is going on...raising an eyebrow...shaking his head, deciding life is too short, and walking away. Sherrif JW Pepper perhaps could be the foil. And PS...at the end of LALD...that is the real Baron Samedi on the train! Fleming did allow supernatural elements in his works...not many but a few...Solitaire for one and the Gypsy in FRWL who tells Bond's and Kerim's futures both of which come true.
Hinx is totally still alive. If the train was on a bridge or something, or if he'd fallen UNDER the train, then I'd disagree, but Hinx is totally alive.
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer The intention is that he broke his neck when yanked out of the train, killing him. Of course if Bautista was free for the later parts of Spectre or NTTD it might have been ambiguous but given he wasn't [and the Craig films are now over] it's his demise.
Another solid video for you.
I can agree with all the henchmen you said deserve to be let off to be honest. Jaws redeemed himself, Butcher and Whisper were ultimately harmless, Miss Taro had no choice, Nick Nack was overwhelmed and Samedi could’ve easily survived.
Who knew Martin had been part of some evil organization?
(Paul Ritter apparently seemed more well known as Martin from Friday Night Dinner.)
Something I find rather amusing about Prof Joe Butcher is that apparently the phrase "Bless your heart" is Southern slang for go fuck yourself. If this is true, when he's doing his televangelist work, he's telling Sanchez's buyers to go fuck themselves.
Did Blofeld ever officially die? Diamonds are Forever does not show him dead and I'm unsure if you can count the For your Eyes Only unofficial (no Kevin McClorly we swear it's not really Blofeld, wink-wink) cameo .
I would argue that now that they have full rights it is confirmed that it was him in the original canon.
Then again, knowing it's freaking Blofeld he could've managed to survive that fall, as well.
@@PictureProductStudio LOL, also might have been a clone. Blofeld does also have an annoying habit of changing accents, appearances and growing hair.
John Glenn declared the pre-title sequence of For Your Eyes only as a mini sequel to OHMSS on the DVD commentary and it was Blofeld who died in that sequence.
I loved this list!
Whisper represent! 🗣️
Whisper - always loved him, although I couldn't quite say why! :)
The old lady in Goldfinger with the machine gun and Mrs. Bell from LALD. I think she knew the bad guys were coming during her pilot training lesson.
Jaws is like my favorite villain in the bond movies and glad he gets a happy ending instead of dying like everyone else
6:40 'SHIT ON IT!'
There were plans to bring Jaws back for For Your Eyes Only in which he would marry Dolly, his girlfriend from Moonraker. However due to a change in production personnel and the desire to make the films more down-to-earth, the producers chose not to bring back Jaws altogether
11:26 A few years ago i thoght the woman in the blue dress would be the photographer. Crazy.
What about taxi driver in Live and Let Die.
You know where you heading?
Uptown I believe.
Uptown! Your heading to Harlem
There's potential for an episode of top ten 'wait what?' Moments in 007 movies.
How did Jaws and girlfriend survive space station plummet in Moonraker?
Also at 10:57, who is telling Nick Nack to "Shut up?"
Because it ain't Roger's voice!
Why does Tracy's father in OHMSS switch from an Italian accent to American periodically?
There you go, you can have thst idea for free! ;)
Oh and the "I had a hat when I came in" line from Thunderball.
A funny line to weasel out of an awkward moment for Bond, except, his hat really did go missing!
And there's only Moneypenny working in the reception!
Great Video calvin. Love the Glasses btw. Where did you get that Purple shirt, I've been after one like that for ages..!
On a different note let me recommend two films.
First, one of the finest espionage films, 1965's "The Spy Who Came in from the Cold." Based on John le Carré's 1963 novel it stars Richard Burton and Claire Bloom. It was nominated for six BAFTAs winning four, including Burton for Best British Actor. (I make a distinction between espionage films, which are realistic depictions, and super-spy movies, like the Bond films. FWIW, my favorite Bond film is From Russia with Love.)
Second, you should have a look at the original, 1968 Thomas Crown Affair. It is more important in cinema history, because of its innovative editing, has a great score by Michel LeGrand, is not as gimmicky, and Faye Dunaway > Rene Russo.
I like to think Irma Bunt died between OHMSS and DAF. Bond was in hot pursuit and Blofeld was just so much more difficult to find. Koskov was probably executed offscreen the question is was it right away or after being sent to Moscow? Whisper I thought was just arrested but...that depends if someone's willing to go there and let him out. Surely he has enough air to survive until someone lets him out. Right?
Samedi tbh I always considered deceased with the last shot being nothing more than a joke especially with him looking straight at the camera but it's clearly meant to be taken with good humor regardless it's not like he's ever going to be menacing Bond again.
I was worried there; I thought you were going to overlook the Baron. He literally gets the last laugh in Live and Let Die.
Something that puzzles me about Knick-Knack is that he seeks revenge on Bond at all. He tells Bond during the duel that if Scaramanga dies, he stands to inherit his fortune. So why not just enjoy his inheritance? Sure Scaramanga's island is ruined, but his bank account should still be enormous. A million dollars a hit over 20 years; the little guy should be set.
It really feels forced because the previous two films [directed by Guy Hamilton and at least partly written by Tom Mankiewicz] ended with the surviving hench people attacking Bond. Going through the same motions with Nick Nack is half hearted to say the least.
Maybe Tee-Hee survived being thrown out of a window ?
Tee hee was a great villain! Super charismatic, almost charming. You got the sense he actually liked and respected bond.
Shit, I didn't even knew Paul Ritter died. RIP :(
I mostly know him from playing Dyatlov in _Chernobyl_
He sadly passed away in April from a brain tumor at the too early age of 54. Skyfall actress Helen McCrory also passed away in April from Cancer at only 52-such a sad month.
Er... Koskov was executed, the diplomatic bag is enough of a clue. As for Joe Butcher, yeah he got away... mind you it would have been advisable for him to leave the continent... I wonder if he found a gig in Butlins? I agree the photographer deserves a harsher punishment... mind you this is a woman who IMO would welcome punishment since she seems like a woman who dishes out and welcomes what she receives. If she ever got married, her partner was on one hell of a nightmarish ride.
Well, it’s a clue of course but we don’t see him killed so does it count as a death if it’s just implied off screen? Schrödinger's Koskov? ;) Not that I consider 007 Racing canon but it’s still an official product and someone somewhere approved the idea that he could still be alive after TLD. I think it’s inconclusive even though yes, Pushkin’s comments imply he’d be executed.
I also understood the diplomatic bag as a clear order for execution, as to fit in a bag for documents he would have to be in pieces. Technically a diplomatic bag can also be a crate or larger container, but how big would the bag from the Soviet embassy to Tunisia usually be?
In the 1980's there were several cases of LIVING people being smuggled out in diplomatic bags so the implication is that he'll have a rough journey but not necessarily a lethal one.
@@calvindyson As someone who's hobby (or rather one of mutlitudes of hobbies) is accounting very oddly inclusive bodycounts of movies (taxidermy, anyone?), I'd say there's enough implication to put him on the bodycount... But usually such cases are accounted as "debatable". I've encountered that problem a lot with my bodycount of The Terminator (so far crown achievement of that hobby given that yes, I've accounted all the skeletal remains; Film Bodycounts Wiki if you're interested): a lot of people just assume that Terminator kills all three of the punks and some point out that in the original script and novelization that is indeed the case. However, there were last minute reshoots on a different location which made the fate of both punks really ambiguous with a hint of surviving.
Good list Calvin!
The Nintendo DS version has the original deleted ending as the final mission.
"Non braces wearing lady friend" hahahaha
Samedi's on a night train/ And he loves that stuff/ He's on a night train/ And he can never get enough...
Calvin, you do know that General Koskov is dead, right? At the end of The Living Daylights Pushkin says "Put him on the next plane to Moscow... In the diplomatic bag!" as in take him outside and execute him for treason. 007 Racing isn't canon, that game is in an alternate continuity.
In my James Bond headcanon I like to think that in his hunt for blofeld James Bond found Irma bunt sometime in 1970 and killed her
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Irma Bunt could be in pre-titles sequence on ''Diamonds Are Forever'', in the role of one of the two Blofeld's men - the one who Bond kills with scalpel - played by Rachel Roberts.
My head canon for Bond involves four continuities;
1. The Connery Eon films or, if you jettison Thunderball, all the other Connery Eon films, plus NSNA later in his career. That way Bond being in Japan at the start of DAF, and Blofeld having plastic surgery to impersonate Henderson (to presumably have safe passage out of Japan) makes a (kind-of) sense. We know Spectre have, by this point in time, perfected voice-replication technology- so Blofeld having Henderson’s voice as well makes a kind-of in-universe sense. Especially when he retains Pleasance-Blofeld’s fashion sense (beige Nehru jacket, anyone?).
2. Lazenby and Moore as one Bond, played by two actors. By TSWLM it’s clear that Moore’s Bond has been married, and by the pre-titles of FYEO we get confirmation that these mentions relate to the OHMSS timeline, with Tracy’s headstone. Then “Blofeld” appears, with the same neck brace as in the final scene of OHMSS. Starting off with a different continuity also explains how Bond and Blofeld haven’t met before the events of OHMSS - at the start of the film Bond’s only stated as having been tracking Blofeld, with no specific mention of any previous face to face encounters.
3. Dalton and Brosnan. Again, one Bond, played by two actors. Place the pre-titles of Goldeneye before TLD (it’s even stated to take place in ‘86), and the timeline makes sense. Bond’s jaded attitude to the job in ‘87 in TLD could be put down to having supposedly seen Trevelyan killed the year before. After going rogue in LTK he’s eventually brought back into the fold, but had to undergo evaluations, as well as to try and impress the incoming new M.
4. The Craig era. The issue of M appearing in this and the previous continuity isn’t an issue for me. Many of the MI6 regulars, and Felix, have re-appereared/ been recast before.
In the second (Moore/Lazenby) continuity it’s entirely possible for Irma Bunt to have either gone to ground completely, or been killed by Bond between OHMSS and LALD. Or maybe even, like the actress herself, just died of natural causes. Whatever happened, she didn’t survive long enough to plead with Bond for her life with the promise of a stainless steel delicatessen.
@@BungleBare I really like this! It makes some things make so much more sense
It actually makes you wonder what happened to these villains. Hell, if you watch Inspector Gadget 1999 film, you actually see Jaws at a meeting at the end of the film.😀
At a Villains Anonymous meeting! So I guess he's still on the side of good, just taking some adjustment.
Guy Haines - Likely arrested or at least relieved from his duty, as we don't see him among the Prime Minister's posey in Skyfall.
General Koskov - Arrested. Either sentenced to a life in gulag, or (as some are suggesting), executed off-screen. But he doesn't get away with it either way.
Irma Bunt - Yeah, she technically gets away with it, as she is never seen again. I wish if she had been a part of Diamonds are forever.
Miss Taro - Arrested
Nick Nack - Arrested
Whisper - Arrested
The Photographer - Gets away with it.
Baron Samedi - I don't know what happens to him, actually. He might have faked his own death, might have been resurrected, might have been only a fourth wall nod to the audiences. I'm going with voodoo magic resurrection. If alive (or undead), I'm sure he'll continue to be a local problem, but very contained. Without Kananga, he doesn't have the resourced to go global.
Jaws - Gets away with it, but finds love and stops being a threat. Although it's never actually said, I always assumed that he was somewhat mentally disabled, and heavily manipulated by his employers.
Out of all these, I only assume that Irma Bunt might present an actual challenge later on.
A very interesting video, thanks.
I am wondering if Mr Hinx will return in a future Bond film as his end in Spectre was fairly ambiguous and the train fight was just before the third act, resulting in a really unsatisfying outcome. You would swear he was going to return for a stinger fight at the end of the film. Maybe that will be in a future film, and Batista is now a big name draw for upcoming films now.
Agreed. Being yanked from a speeding train by your neck SHOULD be fatal, but henchpeople survive worse all the time. I was completely expecting him to show reappear in SPECTRE to go another round with Bond (which theoretically could still happen, I suppose).
Given the film's 3rd act was being re-worked during filming, I guess Dave Bautista wasn't available when they shot that part-hence his apparent demise being a bit abrupt. Given the sequel to No time to die will almost certainly be some kind of reboot I doubt he'll be seen again though Daniel Craig obviously liked working with him as there re-teaming for Knives Out 2.
OHMSS was definitely written out of the continuity. At least for Connery Bond. (Specifically canon for Moore Bond.). Notice how mean M is to Bond in DAF for going after Blofeld.
Also notice moneypenny’s joke about wanting a “diamond in a ring.” Moneypenny was at the wedding and would never have made that joke.
Also Bond in DAF doesn’t show any hate or intense feeling towards blofeld in this film.
QED. Connery Bond never married. But Moore Bond and Dalton Bond did.
My head canon is that the films go 'you only live twice' [Bond meets Blofeld for the first time], 'Diamonds are forever' [Bond catches up with Blofeld and he's presumed dead in the oil rig], OHMSS [Blofeld escaped and Bond has been on the hunt for him for two years], 'For Your Eyes Only' [Bond finally kills Blofeld]. It fits better with the issues you've described even if it probably doesn't fit perfectly.
Sir Donald saying "I believe you've been on holiday" is a reference to Connery having been away for one film.
@@davidjames579 Similar to 'this never happened to the other feller' another funny in-joke
@@jamesatkinsonja Yes, and there you can also read it as referring to Prince Charming in Cinderella if you don't want to believe Lazenby Bond means Connery Bond (or is talking to us).
I do notice that M's reaction, about now Bond is back he can hopefully get some work out of him, would be an insensitive thing to say to Bond after he's been on Compassionate Leave.
If D.A.F. was a revenge film, it's possible that Moneypenny say "a diamond in a ring" and also "life goes on, James".
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Would love to see a video of villains who mayyyy have survived... Eg Tee Hee, Mr Hinx
I see the NTTD OST is listed in the Apple Music store with full track list but unavailable in the Uk. Anyone know what region it’s downloadable from?
Irma Bunt appears in one of Raymond Benson’s short stories
That was based on John Pearson's book where he sets up Bunt for a novel he was intending to write as a follow up. I guess Benson thought he'd wrap that up and Bond's son in a short story to get it out of the way [she's definitely dead in Fleming's books].
I know you said about Wister .. in Live and Let die but what about Baron Samedi,? he comes back to live and you see him laughing on the train at the end of the film
9:41 as an aside, Pam spends so much of that film in that plain grey dress-were they cutting back on costumes or something?