I LOVE my '12 Golf R 2-door, loaded, 6MT and plan on keeping it forever! Mine is a properly prepared Stage 2 and I take it to the track often and love to harass my Porsche Club friends who just can't believe a "Golf" is so fast. They get really annoyed watching my taillights disappear on the straights though they usually catch up in the corners. Can't fight physics. Too bad VW decided to abandon their purist base and discontinue 2-door cars. They lost me as a customer after 40 years. Great video!
lmao muh "purist" 2 door econobox. A purist sports car driver does not buy a hatchback, no matter how many doors it has. I say this as a Golf 7 R REVO 3 owner lol. This is not some purpose built sports car, even if you throw 20 bolt-ons onto it and make it some "sleek" two door version. It's a fucking hatchback and thus can't be "purist" in any way shape or form because the fundamental chassis type is built for space. It's a compromise by definition. You buy hothatch because you want to be fast while still moving 4 people with luggage/groceries around. If you want a "purist" 2 door car, buy a fucking sports car lol.
@@ZenzDeluxe By your use of deliberately misspelled words, misused grammar and unnecessary use of foul language to convey tone I can tell you are a Millennial or, most likely, a Snowflake. I will use small words and be direct. I never claimed the Golf R is a sports car, only that "...VW decided to abandon their purist base..." which was started with the 2-door, 3-pedal Mk1 GTI. VW made the GTI in only 2-door, 3-pedal configuration to appeal to purists through the early Mk4 cars. The GTI always had more horsepower than a golf, a more performance oriented suspension and upgraded interior. The GTI VR6 was the last purist GTI because they were exclusively 2-door, 3-pedal configurations in the US market. I've owned several GTIs starting with my first, a new 1991 8V with dual rounds and all 3 factory options that I modified with sway bars and strut trusses front and back. My last GTI was one of the very first Mk4 GTI VR6s (or GLX to be precise) to arrive on our shores and the first GTI I took to the track. I only did minor upgrades to the suspension and just enjoyed the silky smooth mighty VR6. Mk4 R32's were exclusively 2-door, 3-pedal cars and when they built Mk5 R32's with DSGs (Doppelkupplungsgetriebe auf Deutsche, dual clutch in English) only VW dealers had unsold inventory in North America as late as 2010, a full 2 years after they arrived; not a successful decision that greatly damaged the credibility of an otherwise brilliant car. That poor decision meant only the concerted efforts of many US purists writing letters and signing online petitions begging VW for the next generation R successfully caused VW to reconsider their decision to not bring the MK 6 R to our shores. A 4-door car has always been considered a "grocery getter" as they appealed to families and people in business. If you were a purist you bought a GTI; if you needed a grocery getter you bought a Jetta GLI. This made both groups happy and sales steady. 4-door cars are for people who are satisfied with compromise and mediocrity on some level, be it financial or situational. Accept that, embrace it, it will make you feel better about yourself and perhaps reduce or eliminate you being triggered by others who don't have to or won't compromise and reduce or stop your immature and nasty attacks on people you don't know. As a matter of fact I DO own a pure sports car, a vintage 911. Had you read what I wrote you would have had a good indication that I own a Porsche in the second sentence: "...track often and love to harass my Porsche Club friends... " My 1965 911 has a 2.7L RS spec engine, 901 dogleg transmission, Weltmeister fully adjustable suspension, Big Brembo Boxster S front brakes, Swayaways, a cage, Corbeau seats, TeamTech belts and much more and was professionally built by a very experienced and talented, Porsche trained mechanic who also races. It weighs 1,800#s and the biggest tires I can get under the properly rolled, original fenders are 205/50's. It's a gorilla on stilettos with homicidal tendencies that suffers no fools and will quickly separate those who can drive from those who can't in an often violent way. This is the most difficult car I've ever driven while at the same time it is the most challenging and thoroughly enjoyable car as well. Mastering throttle steer and trail braking through a corner successfully and at speed without ending up swapping ends - or worse - is simply euphoric and quite addictive. It was my track rat for many years until the value skyrocketed and I retired it from track use but still used it for occasional PCA autocross events. It was an original, numbers matching, never wrecked, rust free example with less than 92,000 miles when I bought it 35 years ago and fun to drive even back then. It wasn't worth much when I converted in 2000 and was a very solid platform to build a proper beast with an eye to racing. It's street legal but very uncomfortable so I'm planning a complete, professional restoration back to original. I suspect you are ignorant regarding very early, SWB (short wheel base) 911's so I'll give you a little education on them. They have a well deserved reputation as being very difficult to drive because, quite simply, they are. The handling is very challenging and changes as the fuel level decreases. Stock they're a little mental, modified like mine they become homicidal psychopaths bent on making even the smallest mistake painful. If you wish to see how skilled SWB racers are watch the pre '65 911 races at Goodwood ua-cam.com/video/C8OVIgZaTug/v-deo.html These racers want a challenging car and have mastered the art of the slide. Until recently I owned a Cayman S. While I enjoyed the Cayman S for over 7 years I found it to be a bit boring on the track because it was just too easy to drive fast laps. It did everything right and was quite forgiving of mistakes thanks to a mid-engine that gave it a 50/50 weight distribution, very wide tires, and great brakes. I found my R much more challenging so it became my primary track day ride. I've owned both air and water cooled Porsches and at one point had 3, which wasn't practical when the snow piled up and I had to get to work. I've also earned my competition license and raced a vintage formula vee for several years. While not particularly fast, it's challenging racing because we all have the same size engines and are equally matched; the race is up to what's between the seat and the steering wheel. I've worked hard, sacrificed and put many, many hours on the track improving what's between the seat and the steering wheel rather than buying speed and fast laps. I suspect I've owned my 911 longer than you've been alive and have forgotten more than you know. So grow up, take the time to read or listen to what other's are saying and learn to stop being triggered, it makes you look like a immature, childish and a moron. Enjoy your grocery getter, it's a great car and very tunable but recognize and accept that it's not a true purist car because of the 2 rear doors.
Forged engine with big turbo, at least that is the latest upgrade I know he did, easy 450 HP, a good setup with wider wheels and wheel arches, good suspension etc
Just watched it again and just wondering must be stage3 with something like TTE420 , with the LPFP upgrade 😉 what ever it is it looks and sounds really good . 👍
Den Golf kennen wir doch, wie ich ganze Zeit drauf gewartet hatte wie du mich im Cupra überholst. War aber leider nicht meine Runde gewesen. Zuvor ein netter Abend mit dir und Lou gewesen. Sehr schöner Fahrstil die Langzeiterfahrung spricht für sich. Vielleicht trifft man sich mal wieder :) Mfg Marcel
What do you want to know in detail? the car have 400 bhp and 500 Nm of torque. Dry car weight is 1500Kg. Suspension is a KW Clubsport with Nankang Tires.
Wow that's fast with those tires, are they as quick as Direzza? What brakes do you have, and who has done the setup for the car, Raeder? Heard you drive VLN aswell so maybe that's why you go around in warp speed =))). @@pprill1
I am trying to do a track setup for my golf 6r. Can you guide me for a setup like yours? What are the best handling mods other than coilovers, my car currently has 400ps
What you want to know, as mentioend several times, engine 400bhp, 500nm torque, kw suspension, drexler diff, recaro pole postio, rollbar... all together 1500kg. but drives very well.
@@pprill1 niemals nur 400PS. Absoluter Schwachsinn!! Tief stapeln um größer zu wirken ist Masche bei den VAG Fanboys! Und nach 2000 Runden ist Jeder der da langsam fährt, dumm und unfähig!
@@Laguna2kai Spamst du jetzt alle meine Video zu? Ich muss nicht größer wirken, keine Sorge. Ärgert mich eher das ich da einige Fehler in der Runde drin habe weil ich da schon etwas unkonzentriert war. Zu dem Zeitpunkt bin ich mit dem Wagen übrigens insgesamt keine 10 Runden Gefahren. Ich bin schon auf deine Runde gespannt, schließlich hast du ja in einem anderen Video geschrieben das du 20 Sekunden schneller fährst. Bin schon gespannt.
@@pprill1 soll ich jetzt ja sagen?? *lol* Du WILLST doch gefeiert werden, ansonsten fährste einfach, also ertrage es... wie Ich es seit Jahren ertragen muss, dass Leute wie Du meine Seite zu hetzen! Bei mir (alter Käferfahrer) ist es so... ich hasse den Golf schon immer, weil Golffahrer seit dem Ur-GTI denken sie fahren Goldstaub... das mal zu Erklärung. Was mich immer wieder ärgert, ist die Arroganz und Dummheit, die alljährlich am Wörthersee seine Krönung findet. Volkswagen bescheißt nun schon seit vielen Jahren seine Kunden... sie bauen beschissene Motoren.. die Dinger rosten, sind teuer und TROTZDEM, kaufen Typen wie Du diese Kutschen. Wenn ich dafür mal ne Erklärung finde... die mir nicht erzählt, wie geil die Dinger sind.. was sie eben NICHT sind, dann gebe ich Ruhe. Ansonsten kann ich für mich nur sagen.... Ich bin NOCH NIE von einem Golf überholt worden der mir auf nem Track begegnet ist, also kanns so geil und schnell nicht sein. Ich warte also seit ich meinen RS habe (2011) auf den Tag. Falls Du jetzt auf die Idee kommst mich in dein Wohnzimmer Nürburgring einzuladen, muss ich dich enttäuschen, da war ich schon.... Ist ne schöne Landstraße, aber keine Rennstrecke. Auf dem GrandPrixKurs schon eher. Und... kleiner Tipp, lass die Nummer, dass Du der Schnellste bist einfach weg, denn das bist du nicht. Wenn ich mal 400PS habe, was grad in Bau ist, können Wir das ja mal aufm Hockenheimring oder dem Lausitzring ausfahren... ich denke das würde interessant werden. Ich finde die neuen Volkswagen und Audi trotzdem Kacke... PS: Ich fahre täglich auch solch einen Müll. War leider ein Fehlkauf, aber was solls... ich hab ja noch meine zuverlässigen Renault hier 😃😋
@@pprill1 achso.... Stapel doch nicht so tief. 10 Runden MIT DEM WAGEN, aber locker 1000+ auf der Nordschleife!! Ich fahre 30min. mit nem Auto und dann reicht das... 10 Runden, heißt über 200km... wer dann nicht schnell ist, sollte es lassen!
Love how he is overtaking Porsches
I loved my 6R. Mine was grey too and stage 2 + ❤
I LOVE my '12 Golf R 2-door, loaded, 6MT and plan on keeping it forever! Mine is a properly prepared Stage 2 and I take it to the track often and love to harass my Porsche Club friends who just can't believe a "Golf" is so fast. They get really annoyed watching my taillights disappear on the straights though they usually catch up in the corners. Can't fight physics. Too bad VW decided to abandon their purist base and discontinue 2-door cars. They lost me as a customer after 40 years. Great video!
lmao muh "purist" 2 door econobox. A purist sports car driver does not buy a hatchback, no matter how many doors it has. I say this as a Golf 7 R REVO 3 owner lol. This is not some purpose built sports car, even if you throw 20 bolt-ons onto it and make it some "sleek" two door version. It's a fucking hatchback and thus can't be "purist" in any way shape or form because the fundamental chassis type is built for space. It's a compromise by definition. You buy hothatch because you want to be fast while still moving 4 people with luggage/groceries around. If you want a "purist" 2 door car, buy a fucking sports car lol.
@@ZenzDeluxe By your use of deliberately misspelled words, misused grammar and unnecessary use of foul language to convey tone I can tell you are a Millennial or, most likely, a Snowflake. I will use small words and be direct. I never claimed the Golf R is a sports car, only that "...VW decided to abandon their purist base..." which was started with the 2-door, 3-pedal Mk1 GTI. VW made the GTI in only 2-door, 3-pedal configuration to appeal to purists through the early Mk4 cars. The GTI always had more horsepower than a golf, a more performance oriented suspension and upgraded interior. The GTI VR6 was the last purist GTI because they were exclusively 2-door, 3-pedal configurations in the US market. I've owned several GTIs starting with my first, a new 1991 8V with dual rounds and all 3 factory options that I modified with sway bars and strut trusses front and back. My last GTI was one of the very first Mk4 GTI VR6s (or GLX to be precise) to arrive on our shores and the first GTI I took to the track. I only did minor upgrades to the suspension and just enjoyed the silky smooth mighty VR6. Mk4 R32's were exclusively 2-door, 3-pedal cars and when they built Mk5 R32's with DSGs (Doppelkupplungsgetriebe auf Deutsche, dual clutch in English) only VW dealers had unsold inventory in North America as late as 2010, a full 2 years after they arrived; not a successful decision that greatly damaged the credibility of an otherwise brilliant car. That poor decision meant only the concerted efforts of many US purists writing letters and signing online petitions begging VW for the next generation R successfully caused VW to reconsider their decision to not bring the MK 6 R to our shores. A 4-door car has always been considered a "grocery getter" as they appealed to families and people in business. If you were a purist you bought a GTI; if you needed a grocery getter you bought a Jetta GLI. This made both groups happy and sales steady. 4-door cars are for people who are satisfied with compromise and mediocrity on some level, be it financial or situational. Accept that, embrace it, it will make you feel better about yourself and perhaps reduce or eliminate you being triggered by others who don't have to or won't compromise and reduce or stop your immature and nasty attacks on people you don't know. As a matter of fact I DO own a pure sports car, a vintage 911. Had you read what I wrote you would have had a good indication that I own a Porsche in the second sentence: "...track often and love to harass my Porsche Club friends... " My 1965 911 has a 2.7L RS spec engine, 901 dogleg transmission, Weltmeister fully adjustable suspension, Big Brembo Boxster S front brakes, Swayaways, a cage, Corbeau seats, TeamTech belts and much more and was professionally built by a very experienced and talented, Porsche trained mechanic who also races. It weighs 1,800#s and the biggest tires I can get under the properly rolled, original fenders are 205/50's. It's a gorilla on stilettos with homicidal tendencies that suffers no fools and will quickly separate those who can drive from those who can't in an often violent way. This is the most difficult car I've ever driven while at the same time it is the most challenging and thoroughly enjoyable car as well. Mastering throttle steer and trail braking through a corner successfully and at speed without ending up swapping ends - or worse - is simply euphoric and quite addictive. It was my track rat for many years until the value skyrocketed and I retired it from track use but still used it for occasional PCA autocross events. It was an original, numbers matching, never wrecked, rust free example with less than 92,000 miles when I bought it 35 years ago and fun to drive even back then. It wasn't worth much when I converted in 2000 and was a very solid platform to build a proper beast with an eye to racing. It's street legal but very uncomfortable so I'm planning a complete, professional restoration back to original. I suspect you are ignorant regarding very early, SWB (short wheel base) 911's so I'll give you a little education on them. They have a well deserved reputation as being very difficult to drive because, quite simply, they are. The handling is very challenging and changes as the fuel level decreases. Stock they're a little mental, modified like mine they become homicidal psychopaths bent on making even the smallest mistake painful. If you wish to see how skilled SWB racers are watch the pre '65 911 races at Goodwood ua-cam.com/video/C8OVIgZaTug/v-deo.html These racers want a challenging car and have mastered the art of the slide. Until recently I owned a Cayman S. While I enjoyed the Cayman S for over 7 years I found it to be a bit boring on the track because it was just too easy to drive fast laps. It did everything right and was quite forgiving of mistakes thanks to a mid-engine that gave it a 50/50 weight distribution, very wide tires, and great brakes. I found my R much more challenging so it became my primary track day ride. I've owned both air and water cooled Porsches and at one point had 3, which wasn't practical when the snow piled up and I had to get to work. I've also earned my competition license and raced a vintage formula vee for several years. While not particularly fast, it's challenging racing because we all have the same size engines and are equally matched; the race is up to what's between the seat and the steering wheel. I've worked hard, sacrificed and put many, many hours on the track improving what's between the seat and the steering wheel rather than buying speed and fast laps. I suspect I've owned my 911 longer than you've been alive and have forgotten more than you know. So grow up, take the time to read or listen to what other's are saying and learn to stop being triggered, it makes you look like a immature, childish and a moron. Enjoy your grocery getter, it's a great car and very tunable but recognize and accept that it's not a true purist car because of the 2 rear doors.
Wow! He is hauling ass and overtaking Porsche’s! What the hell does he have going on under that hood? Long live VW!!!!!!!
Forged engine with big turbo, at least that is the latest upgrade I know he did, easy 450 HP, a good setup with wider wheels and wheel arches, good suspension etc
@@vitaltrina just 400 bhp and 500 NM of torque. Suspension ist just a normal KW. Track knowledge ist the key ;)
@@pprill1 different turbo on stock internals? It was a reliable car?
Dsg remapped?
@@LorenzoClara97 forged rods and some other goodies. But pistons where stock.
Just watched it again and just wondering must be stage3 with something like TTE420 , with the LPFP upgrade 😉 what ever it is it looks and sounds really good . 👍
Maybe 7:22 with closed windows hahaha awesome lap!! 🔥🔥🔥
eee no escribí eso
yo no se hablar inglés >:V
y hace dos meses no tenía móvil
Den Golf kennen wir doch, wie ich ganze Zeit drauf gewartet hatte wie du mich im Cupra überholst. War aber leider nicht meine Runde gewesen. Zuvor ein netter Abend mit dir und Lou gewesen.
Sehr schöner Fahrstil die Langzeiterfahrung spricht für sich. Vielleicht trifft man sich mal wieder :)
Mfg Marcel
Sehr sehr stramm, Patrick! **Daumen hoch** und **Hut ab**
Danke. 😁
I have Golf Mk6 2.0 TDI.I love this car.Very good video btw.
Da schließe ich mich natürlich an, sehr sauber gefahren!👌
Man sieht, dass du das schon 1-2 Mal gemacht hast...😛😂
Close the damn window mate + 5 sec haha
Hi! Would really like to know your spec of the car? Seems to handle and perform really well. Nice driving by the way 😁👍
What do you want to know in detail? the car have 400 bhp and 500 Nm of torque. Dry car weight is 1500Kg. Suspension is a KW Clubsport with Nankang Tires.
Wow that's fast with those tires, are they as quick as Direzza? What brakes do you have, and who has done the setup for the car, Raeder? Heard you drive VLN aswell so maybe that's why you go around in warp speed =))). @@pprill1
@@pelleg60 thanks for the compliments. The Direzza should be a little bit quicker. Brakes are Movít with Endless pads. Setup is done by myself.
Hello Patrick, do you remember which wheel spec where you running here? Did you have to make fenders wider to fit them?
265/35R18 yes, you need to rework the fender.
Great Lap!
what modifications are on the car please
Good to watch! How much camber front and rear?
Toe settings on front and rear?
Castor?
What brakes are you running?
Cheers
Front 3° and rear 2,5° camber. 1 mm toe out in the front and 1mm toe in at the rear.
Brakes are movit
pprill
Did you add a roll centre correction ball joint? To help control arms?
pprill Thats pretty much what i was thinking aiming for on coilovers install soon. Doing some Alcon 6 pots aswell.
@@vuss2107 no, i run the lower control arm from the Audi TT and stiffer bushings. That's it.
Porsche:Our cars are track weap-
This guy: Get the fuck out of the way
master
1:48 War das Überholen rechts nicht gegen die Regeln oder ist das keine öffentliche Touristenfahrt?
Bei 6:03 nochmal.
Das war auf einem trackday.
hi, Did you do tcu mapping as well?
Super Runde 👍🚗👍
Danke.
Is it Stock or got it some xtra Power?
Nette Runde
What are the spring rates on the car please?
how many hp?
Did you have a haldex controller?
No.
I am trying to do a track setup for my golf 6r. Can you guide me for a setup like yours?
What are the best handling mods other than coilovers, my car currently has 400ps
@@hovi5721 Track only?
@@pprill1 Will be used on Track and Street ~ 8 track days/year
Good skill man👍
Hammer Rundenzeit. Seit ich dich in thilos Video gefunden habe, habe ich mich gefragt ob du mal schneller wirst als er ;)
Kannst du mir einen Link schicken wo ich mal in Thilos Video war? Danke. :-)
Ich finde es nicht mehr. Aber du warst es 100% ein silberner Golf6R fährt in der 2. Hälfte der Nordschleife vor ihm. Gegen Ende überholt er dich.
@@Clint_Moto34 Das wird der Vorbesitzer des Golfs gewesen sein: ua-cam.com/video/e50FGLl2OzY/v-deo.html
Uff😅💣🔥🔥🔥
install front lsd?? (wavetrac or etc..)
It have an Drexler LSD...
👍👍🙆🏼♂️
Hello good, is the car in stock?
Ofc its not stock😂
pr0d1gy it wasn’t a question for you was it
@@GaffyTube and who tf are you to tell me something dumbass?
pr0d1gy I’m your dad, now only comment when you have some balls
pr0d1gy I’m your dad
Can you tell us the mods?
What you want to know, as mentioend several times, engine 400bhp, 500nm torque, kw suspension, drexler diff, recaro pole postio, rollbar... all together 1500kg. but drives very well.
FWD Lap - BTG 7:25 min - full lap 7:46 min ua-cam.com/video/yKKuT-An8z8/v-deo.html
what chassis brake shock absorber configuration do you have
Movit Brake with Endless pads and KW Suspension.
mod list ? :P
Kw suspension, bigger brakes, bigger wheels, Nankang Semi Slick tires, modified DSG etc...
@@pprill1 engine mods?
@@vasilmalchev566 bigger turbo, rods, exhaust, intake etc.. cauld have more power but it's just 400 BHP
HGP TURBO KIT？
Nein, HGR hat den Motor gemacht. www.hgr-automobiltechnik.de/
@@pprill1 Oh my god! Really the fastest 6R !
How is it to be gay on NOS with automatic gearbox? 😂😂😂
▁ ▂ ▃ ▄ ▅ ▆ █ 100 % Schwuler gehts nicht! 🍆👄 😂😂😂
Why he have open window?
hot :)
WatchThatFast - Like Ami Jonsson said, hot. LOL. Air conditioner off for faster lap times.
I like open windows to hear the track, just a little.
@@MrArniice haha...
Nette Runde aber rechts überholen? Gerade für Anfänger sehr irritierend
Das war auf einem Trackday. Bin mir nicht sicher ob die Runde als Referenz für Anfänger taugt. :)
How many hp?
400
@@pprill1 niemals nur 400PS. Absoluter Schwachsinn!! Tief stapeln um größer zu wirken ist Masche bei den VAG Fanboys!
Und nach 2000 Runden ist Jeder der da langsam fährt, dumm und unfähig!
@@Laguna2kai
Spamst du jetzt alle meine Video zu? Ich muss nicht größer wirken, keine Sorge. Ärgert mich eher das ich da einige Fehler in der Runde drin habe weil ich da schon etwas unkonzentriert war. Zu dem Zeitpunkt bin ich mit dem Wagen übrigens insgesamt keine 10 Runden Gefahren. Ich bin schon auf deine Runde gespannt, schließlich hast du ja in einem anderen Video geschrieben das du 20 Sekunden schneller fährst. Bin schon gespannt.
@@pprill1 soll ich jetzt ja sagen?? *lol* Du WILLST doch gefeiert werden, ansonsten fährste einfach, also ertrage es... wie Ich es seit Jahren ertragen muss, dass Leute wie Du meine Seite zu hetzen!
Bei mir (alter Käferfahrer) ist es so... ich hasse den Golf schon immer, weil Golffahrer seit dem Ur-GTI denken sie fahren Goldstaub... das mal zu Erklärung.
Was mich immer wieder ärgert, ist die Arroganz und Dummheit, die alljährlich am Wörthersee seine Krönung findet.
Volkswagen bescheißt nun schon seit vielen Jahren seine Kunden... sie bauen beschissene Motoren.. die Dinger rosten, sind teuer und TROTZDEM, kaufen Typen wie Du diese Kutschen.
Wenn ich dafür mal ne Erklärung finde... die mir nicht erzählt, wie geil die Dinger sind.. was sie eben NICHT sind, dann gebe ich Ruhe.
Ansonsten kann ich für mich nur sagen.... Ich bin NOCH NIE von einem Golf überholt worden der mir auf nem Track begegnet ist, also kanns so geil und schnell nicht sein.
Ich warte also seit ich meinen RS habe (2011) auf den Tag.
Falls Du jetzt auf die Idee kommst mich in dein Wohnzimmer Nürburgring einzuladen, muss ich dich enttäuschen, da war ich schon.... Ist ne schöne Landstraße, aber keine Rennstrecke.
Auf dem GrandPrixKurs schon eher.
Und... kleiner Tipp, lass die Nummer, dass Du der Schnellste bist einfach weg, denn das bist du nicht.
Wenn ich mal 400PS habe, was grad in Bau ist, können Wir das ja mal aufm Hockenheimring oder dem Lausitzring ausfahren... ich denke das würde interessant werden.
Ich finde die neuen Volkswagen und Audi trotzdem Kacke...
PS: Ich fahre täglich auch solch einen Müll.
War leider ein Fehlkauf, aber was solls... ich hab ja noch meine zuverlässigen Renault hier 😃😋
@@pprill1 achso.... Stapel doch nicht so tief.
10 Runden MIT DEM WAGEN, aber locker 1000+ auf der Nordschleife!! Ich fahre 30min. mit nem Auto und dann reicht das... 10 Runden, heißt über 200km... wer dann nicht schnell ist, sollte es lassen!