I believe Axiom Space has the same problems as Boeing: #1. Top Heavy with Management, #2 Too many high dollars staff people in the wrong areas of the company, #3. Not enough Tec. doing the right engineering for the project and #4. Over engineer product, to include a Cadillac design on Chevy money! To many unqualified people want $150,000.00 starting a job fresh out of school.
I know we need a diversified fleet of rockets from different vendors. But I think NASA and the FEDS, in general need to withhold funds from Boeing and BlueOrigin until they produce results….no more hand holding or tipping the scales.
I think NASA needs new leadership. Everything they touch seems to turn to excrement. More money than brains. Maybe they should start following SpaceX form of creative leadership.
It’s pretty clear, spaceX is going to eventually completely rule space stations, rockets and multi planetary life. They basically have everyone ones attention and always will have everyone’s attention. GO SPACEX!!🔥🔥🎉🎉
For now SpaceX should continue focusing on Starship. You have to have an economical bulk transport system before any of this will be possible. Then building a much larger replacement will be feasible. Then the aged IIS space station could be retired.
I believe the Sierra's inflatable modules may be the way. Can this approach meet all requirements? I don't know. But in concept, it seems to make sense. When a company's cost over-run, that is a sign of poor planning. Once the costs ballooning symptoms become noticeable, you know you probably need to cancel it. While ballooning space modules may be the way, ballooning budgets are a manifestation of a lack of forsight.
As a reference. Avengers Endgame's budget was over £266M ($356M). £105M ($140M) of the publics money was given to a private company, with nothing to show for it, as it sounds like a large percentage went to top tier hires. Shouldn't there be mechanisms in place to stop misappropriation of public funds to safeguard citizens and their taxes?
SpaceX has a viable rocket, Super Heavy, and a Viable hull for the modules now if they use the Super Heavy as a single use platform. I am willing to bet that if tasked, SpaceX could produce a habitation and power module based on Starship within 2 years.
Possibly. The devil is in the details after all. In my opinion the next orbital station we should focus on human physiology in low gee environments. Specifically at 16% and 34% of Earth's gravity. We have data on zero gee. And one gee. What are the effects of reduced gravity. There will be effects. But placed on a graph does it track in a straight line from zero gee to one gee. Are the effects on a curve? If on a curve does the curve start shallow then trend upward rapidly as you approach one gee. Or does the curve trend upward and then flatten out. This is data that we could have had a handle on by now even building on Shuttle components. If we had wanted to.
Imagine a SpaceX Starship converted into a space station with inflatable Sierra modules sticking out of the sides of the Starship and the whole thing spinning like a football so that the inflatable modules experience centrifuge gravity
They don't need to build a new station. They just need paired tethered StarShip configuration which would be easier to maintain, service and upgrade and replace. It would also allow for the large diameter spin for stable artificial gravity. The solution is right in front of them.
Technically they can let the Russians take their hardware and we can send up a brand new power and control module to replace the Russian pieces. After that a new station can emerge while slowly ditching the old hardware.
It used to be the major aviation and aerospace companies had the founders name on the letterhead and the founder was still in charge. Lockheed, Boeing, Douglas, Grumman, etc. Now the founders are gone and these former giants are seen as nothing more than cash cows for the major shareholders. I wonder how much of Boeing, Lockheed-Martin etc are owned by Black Rock, Fidelity and other equity firms.
SpaceX has produced a successful reliable, efficient and partly reusable Falcon platform for satellites, ISS supplies and crew but as SLS are currently experiencing and we are often told... past performance is not an indicator of future performance. We need to remember that Starship is a very complex, yet promising launch system that still faces many challenges.
The Problem Is Using Third Party Companies To Build Parts For Your Space Station, Vast Builds Everything In-house That Is Why Vast In Doing Well And Axiom Space Is Going Bankrupt If Management And The Why To Do Things Isn't Changed, Axiom Space Build Things Yourself No Third Parties Getting Involved It's Simple Guys.
SpaceX should just take over the ISS and use it as a building platform for a stable large scale space station with 100s to 1000s of full-time workers. The station could use all organic waste to make methane for itself and starship.
It's rather funny that SpaceX embodies what made America a great country! I All facets of industry at that! All the others are making excuses, milking the budgets for everything and failing to deliver anything, your typical legacy thinking and actions! The problem that currently faces SpaceX is finding sufficient loads for Starship on a frequent basis. 25 launches per year planned at 100 tons per launch is a lot of equipment in space! Multiple problems arise from having a space station, the first is the core, the very first piece of the puzzle. And at present everyone is thinking small when Starship can make it so much bigger! The second one is just as important, construction personnel will need to transition to space top make it happen, for maintenance and alterations, then of course automatic manufacturing machines (3d printing machines for space parts?). The evolving of SpaceX spacesuits is in play now, no doubt modifications are already under way! Plus there's also two ways of thinking, earth thinking or space thinking? I wonder which works best in space.
YES. Vast has the best ROI for near term "occasionally" manned LEO. Full time manned LEO? There just is no commercial business case. Time for NASA to leave crewed LEO behind. But I don't see SX doing anything on its own in the next 10 years.
Typically, on contracts like these NASA will require a detailed plan from the company on how they plan to meet the contract. This includes who they are going to hire and when they are going to hire them. NASA failed to see that the plan as submitted was flawed and would not allow the company to meet the schedule.
NASA needs reinvigoration, young and innovative people in leadership positions, people that care about progress more than towing party lines, and pleasing political agendas.
This is sad News, I hope something gets resolved. SpaceX need to be careful not to diversify into some of these projects to much without guaranteed income and losing focus on their primary goals.
@@kb9gkc I watched the Apollo 11 landing on television as a child but now I'm thinking "Hang on a second, that was just 8 years after the first spaceflight, but 55 years on we can't really do much of anything in space".
@@martinsavage6838 Each generation is less capable then the last. Our technology has made up for some of it but the decline is exponential. We are witnessing the collapse of Civilization.
Question: what is the business case for a for profit space station? Why are there three different projects chasing such a slim business case? At the present time, space is an expense, not a for profit effort. SpaceX is successful because launch services does generate a profit and Starlink is a valuable service. NASA needs to focus less on trying to establish competition and focus instead on quality workmanship and technical excellence (like SpaceX).
Following are major scientific breakthroughs achieved during 20 years of human presence on the ISS. Fundamental Disease Research. ... Discovery of Steadily Burning Cool Flames. ... New Water Purification Systems. ... Drug Development. ... Combatting Muscle Atrophy and Bone Loss. ... Understanding How the Body Changes in Microgravity. Without the ISS, we apparently wouldn't have water filtration systems. Clean burning fuel. Robots building cars. And how compensate for a sedentary lifestyle. That treatment for cancer could very well be discovered in a zero gravity environment.
SpaceX must make 2 Telescoping 100m StarShip without wings and any like a fuel depot. SpaceX must start on the development of the 4 port Depot/HUM for Mars 5 ship Cluster or a 2 port for 3 ship cluster.
Seems too many individual companies involved. Elon musk said once , you can only succeed with everything in house .RnD as well. Do not remember any problems like this on the ISS construction years ago.
As Starship succeeds in bringing the cost to orbit way down, a whole new set of strong players and opportunities for Space development will emerge. The current space station has plenty of life left in it if necessary.
Yes. SpaceX should enter into discussions with Axiom and NASA with SpaceX taking a controlling interest or out right buying the company. SpaceX also needs to enter into discussions with Sierra Space on the Dream Chaser and negotiate a launch agreement to get the Dream Chaser certified for human launching. VAST should be able to connect to the Axiom space station and give us all a new, robust space station.
The international space station should not be decommissioned until they have a replacement up and running and confirmed. NASA and their desire to decommission it due to budget is stupid basically because it’s going to cost more to replace and they can’t have a break in having the station running and not. To me, it would make more sense to take the material that they have up there and cannibalize it even if it’s, beginning to fail for no other reason to use it as structural skeleton in some manner.
@@colonbina1 can you just imagine a space station variant of Starship where they don't need flaps, header tanks or heat shield and getting a push from Raptor 3's. The uppers section could be twice as long and then imagine half a dozen of them in some sort of hub arrangement. They have already proven the launch capability, they don't need to be able to land any of it apart from the booster. Nobody else has a chance to compete. BO might have a good rocket coming sooooooon, but they are just way too slow.
Axiom is a joke waste of money no results in 4 years wait for it..... No more money 😂. Make the car and we'll buy it. To many people & companies make promises they won't keep not that they can't! We did it in the old days, just lazy and greed, either you can or 😮.
Just wait until SpaceX Launches a Starship set-up as a space station with Optimus bots climbing out & unfurling solar panels. Then finding that they have purchased a inflatable hab & installed it within the top tank giving them 2x or 3x the habitable space of the ISS. 😅😊 It will probably be a modified v3. When they show that they can refuel into header tanks within the aft tank & still burn the Raptors for significant orbital changes 😅 NASA will be 😢. A refuelling depot station with a fleet of tugs operating from it could extend the service lives of satellites hugely. If you could refuel those big expensive DOD satellites & change out their old modules they would love you long time$$$$.😊
@@colonbina1 SpaceX will become obsolete when my project to cancel gravity is complete. I am almost on the brink of nullifying the curvature of space-time around an object.
NASA, as always, right on time just like they were with the shuttle retirement. They had nothing in the works to replace the shuttle until long after its retirement. Talk about being short-sighted?
This is again a typical case of every outsider looking at the plan and budget and just asking... Why? ... I mean, if you can send up an entire space station star ship version with 10X the space, and for 10X less cost soon... It seems that these projects are just a victim of progress. That would be like me planning to build, and found the largest company for human made online translations - now... :-D
Iam very disappointed with Nasa but not what you think . Here's why Nasa should be more advanced than SpaceX because they had a lot more time in developing space technology so my ? Is why don't the government hand over to SpaceX all of there missions !
As an armchair space 'fan' since Gemini, today looks like the pig and its piglets have grown fat & lazy... competing with lawfare now? DEI? I don't know, but Elon & crew making them Bad. Think I'll get another cup of coffee... hhmmmmm....
I believe Axiom Space has the same problems as Boeing: #1. Top Heavy with Management, #2 Too many high dollars staff people in the wrong areas of the company, #3. Not enough Tec. doing the right engineering for the project and #4. Over engineer product, to include a Cadillac design on Chevy money! To many unqualified people want $150,000.00 starting a job fresh out of school.
That may be so, honestly, the rocket industry has always been expensive because the cost of engineers is so high.
I know we need a diversified fleet of rockets from different vendors. But I think NASA and the FEDS, in general need to withhold funds from Boeing and BlueOrigin until they produce results….no more hand holding or tipping the scales.
I think NASA needs new leadership. Everything they touch seems to turn to excrement. More money than brains. Maybe they should start following SpaceX form of creative leadership.
NASA and even FAA should reform
Go woke go broke
@@mefobills279
If they increase employment it is usually in middle management paper pushers. Got to keep those TPS reports coming in after all.
NASA needs an overhaul of management. NOT a government pay, you don't do your job 110% then you're walking.
Get rid of the old legacy fossils in government, nasa, etc
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It’s pretty clear, spaceX is going to eventually completely rule space stations, rockets and multi planetary life. They basically have everyone ones attention and always will have everyone’s attention. GO SPACEX!!🔥🔥🎉🎉
For now SpaceX should continue focusing on Starship. You have to have an economical bulk transport system before any of this will be possible. Then building a much larger replacement will be feasible. Then the aged IIS space station could be retired.
I believe the Sierra's inflatable modules may be the way. Can this approach meet all requirements? I don't know. But in concept, it seems to make sense. When a company's cost over-run, that is a sign of poor planning. Once the costs ballooning symptoms become noticeable, you know you probably need to cancel it.
While ballooning space modules may be the way, ballooning budgets are a manifestation of a lack of forsight.
Maybe the company should examine how much they are paying out for the upper echelon management's bonus checks.
As a reference. Avengers Endgame's budget was over £266M ($356M).
£105M ($140M) of the publics money was given to a private company, with nothing to show for it, as it sounds like a large percentage went to top tier hires.
Shouldn't there be mechanisms in place to stop misappropriation of public funds to safeguard citizens and their taxes?
Let the FAA help NASA's ISS.
Great combination 🤣🤣🤣
This statement does not make much sense. The FAA is a regulatory body, not a space company.
SpaceX has a viable rocket, Super Heavy, and a Viable hull for the modules now if they use the Super Heavy as a single use platform. I am willing to bet that if tasked, SpaceX could produce a habitation and power module based on Starship within 2 years.
Possibly. The devil is in the details after all. In my opinion the next orbital station we should focus on human physiology in low gee environments. Specifically at 16% and 34% of Earth's gravity. We have data on zero gee. And one gee. What are the effects of reduced gravity. There will be effects. But placed on a graph does it track in a straight line from zero gee to one gee. Are the effects on a curve? If on a curve does the curve start shallow then trend upward rapidly as you approach one gee. Or does the curve trend upward and then flatten out.
This is data that we could have had a handle on by now even building on Shuttle components. If we had wanted to.
Over spending and too many projects going on at once is not a good formula.
Imagine a SpaceX Starship converted into a space station with inflatable Sierra modules sticking out of the sides of the Starship and the whole thing spinning like a football so that the inflatable modules experience centrifuge gravity
SpaceX Starship is the new ISS. 😂
Space X, the future for space business 👍
Aggree !!!!
They don't need to build a new station. They just need paired tethered StarShip configuration which would be easier to maintain, service and upgrade and replace. It would also allow for the large diameter spin for stable artificial gravity.
The solution is right in front of them.
Technically they can let the Russians take their hardware and we can send up a brand new power and control module to replace the Russian pieces. After that a new station can emerge while slowly ditching the old hardware.
SapceX should buy the IPs of Bigelow Aerospace and they would have a space station in no time
This is what happens when research is sacrificed on the altar of shareholder value.
It already happened to the US car industry and civil aviation.
It used to be the major aviation and aerospace companies had the founders name on the letterhead and the founder was still in charge. Lockheed, Boeing, Douglas, Grumman, etc. Now the founders are gone and these former giants are seen as nothing more than cash cows for the major shareholders. I wonder how much of Boeing, Lockheed-Martin etc are owned by Black Rock, Fidelity and other equity firms.
SpaceX has produced a successful reliable, efficient and partly reusable Falcon platform for satellites, ISS supplies and crew but as SLS are currently experiencing and we are often told... past performance is not an indicator of future performance. We need to remember that Starship is a very complex, yet promising launch system that still faces many challenges.
At minimum they will have a reusable booster with throw away upper stage. Still beats everyone else.
Does Axiom just take NASA money and pay others to do the work?
Seems like it.
Go Elon! Go Team SpaceX!
I would like to know how Bigelow's module connected to ISS is doing?
Yes! I think that SpaceX should consider cashing in the $670M that Axion already owes them to a bid for buying Axion outright.
The Problem Is Using Third Party Companies To Build Parts For Your Space Station, Vast Builds Everything In-house That Is Why Vast In Doing Well And Axiom Space Is Going Bankrupt If Management And The Why To Do Things Isn't Changed, Axiom Space Build Things Yourself No Third Parties Getting Involved It's Simple Guys.
SpaceX should just take over the ISS and use it as a building platform for a stable large scale space station with 100s to 1000s of full-time workers. The station could use all organic waste to make methane for itself and starship.
It's rather funny that SpaceX embodies what made America a great country! I All facets of industry at that! All the others are making excuses, milking the budgets for everything and failing to deliver anything, your typical legacy thinking and actions! The problem that currently faces SpaceX is finding sufficient loads for Starship on a frequent basis. 25 launches per year planned at 100 tons per launch is a lot of equipment in space! Multiple problems arise from having a space station, the first is the core, the very first piece of the puzzle. And at present everyone is thinking small when Starship can make it so much bigger! The second one is just as important, construction personnel will need to transition to space top make it happen, for maintenance and alterations, then of course automatic manufacturing machines (3d printing machines for space parts?). The evolving of SpaceX spacesuits is in play now, no doubt modifications are already under way! Plus there's also two ways of thinking, earth thinking or space thinking? I wonder which works best in space.
YES. Vast has the best ROI for near term "occasionally" manned LEO. Full time manned LEO? There just is no commercial business case. Time for NASA to leave crewed LEO behind. But I don't see SX doing anything on its own in the next 10 years.
Why not detach the Russian parts of the ISS and leave the rest up there?
the equipment and electronics are worn out!
Typically, on contracts like these NASA will require a detailed plan from the company on how they plan to meet the contract. This includes who they are going to hire and when they are going to hire them. NASA failed to see that the plan as submitted was flawed and would not allow the company to meet the schedule.
yes
NASA needs reinvigoration, young and innovative people in leadership positions, people that care about progress more than towing party lines, and pleasing political agendas.
Agree ♥️
Are U talking about ISS, or Gateway, or something else ?
Sounds like BOEING,, ,another money pit, their vanity far outpaced their compotency
Yeah
More that Administrators & MBAs got more authority than the engineers & compancies went out the door .
Government should step aside (though not be completely removed) and let these companies innovate.
This is sad News, I hope something gets resolved.
SpaceX need to be careful not to diversify into some of these projects to much without guaranteed income and losing focus on their primary goals.
👍👍👍
NASA should get a full refund
With every year that passes I become more sceptical about the Apollo Moon landings.
Never underestimate the Greatest Generation, I knew them and they were very different from who we have become.
@@kb9gkc I watched the Apollo 11 landing on television as a child but now I'm thinking "Hang on a second, that was just 8 years after the first spaceflight, but 55 years on we can't really do much of anything in space".
@@martinsavage6838 Each generation is less capable then the last. Our technology has made up for some of it but the decline is exponential. We are witnessing the collapse of Civilization.
Question: what is the business case for a for profit space station? Why are there three different projects chasing such a slim business case? At the present time, space is an expense, not a for profit effort. SpaceX is successful because launch services does generate a profit and Starlink is a valuable service. NASA needs to focus less on trying to establish competition and focus instead on quality workmanship and technical excellence (like SpaceX).
Following are major scientific breakthroughs achieved during 20 years of human presence on the ISS.
Fundamental Disease Research. ...
Discovery of Steadily Burning Cool Flames. ...
New Water Purification Systems. ...
Drug Development. ...
Combatting Muscle Atrophy and Bone Loss. ...
Understanding How the Body Changes in Microgravity.
Without the ISS, we apparently wouldn't have water filtration systems. Clean burning fuel. Robots building cars. And how compensate for a sedentary lifestyle.
That treatment for cancer could very well be discovered in a zero gravity environment.
Once Axiom gets its first module in orbit on the ISS they should have plenty of new Backing.
hired 800 staff member? 10 mil payroll per month?
All DEI hires.
You might well use question marks, I bet you get no answers though.
@@davidtuer5825 yup the question mark is for: Are they serious
SpaceX must make 2 Telescoping 100m StarShip without wings and any like a fuel depot. SpaceX must start on the development of the 4 port Depot/HUM for Mars 5 ship Cluster or a 2 port for 3 ship cluster.
Seems too many individual companies involved. Elon musk said once , you can only succeed with everything in house .RnD as well. Do not remember any problems like this on the ISS construction years ago.
No we all know Space is hard.
Module 1...ship 26
Great idea
As Starship succeeds in bringing the cost to orbit way down, a whole new set of strong players and opportunities for Space development will emerge. The current space station has plenty of life left in it if necessary.
Yes. SpaceX should enter into discussions with Axiom and NASA with SpaceX taking a controlling interest or out right buying the company. SpaceX also needs to enter into discussions with Sierra Space on the Dream Chaser and negotiate a launch agreement to get the Dream Chaser certified for human launching. VAST should be able to connect to the Axiom space station and give us all a new, robust space station.
Yes or no
YES
Yes
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Can they not see what starship can do?. If spacex removed the fins, it can deliver the space station to orbit in expendible mode.
The international space station should not be decommissioned until they have a replacement up and running and confirmed. NASA and their desire to decommission it due to budget is stupid basically because it’s going to cost more to replace and they can’t have a break in having the station running and not. To me, it would make more sense to take the material that they have up there and cannibalize it even if it’s, beginning to fail for no other reason to use it as structural skeleton in some manner.
that would be the smart option but they wont take it...
IF DEEMED INEFFECTIVE, YES…
Why don’t axium b’uild the module’s and spaceX launch them.
SpaceX will capture tomorrow !!!!
SpaceX will own it all.
Yeah
@@colonbina1 can you just imagine a space station variant of Starship where they don't need flaps, header tanks or heat shield and getting a push from Raptor 3's. The uppers section could be twice as long and then imagine half a dozen of them in some sort of hub arrangement. They have already proven the launch capability, they don't need to be able to land any of it apart from the booster. Nobody else has a chance to compete. BO might have a good rocket coming sooooooon, but they are just way too slow.
I have said it so many times space x leads the way
Axiom is having financial issues
Too many videos too quickly. Stock footage and AI voice. Terrible
Axiom is a joke waste of money no results in 4 years wait for it..... No more money 😂. Make the car and we'll buy it. To many people & companies make promises they won't keep not that they can't! We did it in the old days, just lazy and greed, either you can or 😮.
Just wait until SpaceX Launches a Starship set-up as a space station with Optimus bots climbing out & unfurling solar panels. Then finding that they have purchased a inflatable hab & installed it within the top tank giving them 2x or 3x the habitable space of the ISS. 😅😊 It will probably be a modified v3. When they show that they can refuel into header tanks within the aft tank & still burn the Raptors for significant orbital changes 😅 NASA will be 😢. A refuelling depot station with a fleet of tugs operating from it could extend the service lives of satellites hugely. If you could refuel those big expensive DOD satellites & change out their old modules they would love you long time$$$$.😊
Muck faster than Axiom space station
@@colonbina1 SpaceX will become obsolete when my project to cancel gravity is complete. I am almost on the brink of nullifying the curvature of space-time around an object.
Problems? Cutbacks? The French say, "Such is Life".
C'est la vie.
Alguém assistindo??🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
NASA, as always, right on time just like they were with the shuttle retirement. They had nothing in the works to replace the shuttle until long after its retirement. Talk about being short-sighted?
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$670 million owed to SpaceX? That's only what?, five years of salary for their engineers? 🤣🤣🤣
3:34 Ooooh!!!!! The Saudis could rename it Noem-Axiom since they've decided to NOT build the 100km-long skyscraper!
This is again a typical case of every outsider looking at the plan and budget and just asking... Why? ... I mean, if you can send up an entire space station star ship version with 10X the space, and for 10X less cost soon... It seems that these projects are just a victim of progress.
That would be like me planning to build, and found the largest company for human made online translations - now... :-D
Did you hire with DEI practices?
Lame....nasa
yes. no projects till nasa gets massive house cleaning. current staff has proven incapable.
Iam very disappointed with Nasa but not what you think . Here's why Nasa should be more advanced than SpaceX because they had a lot more time in developing space technology so my ? Is why don't the government hand over to SpaceX all of there missions !
2:31 800 PEOPLE MAKING $12,500 a MONTH?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Remember 25% inflation, $12,500 in 2021 only buys $9,375 of goods and services in 2024.
As an armchair space 'fan' since Gemini, today looks like the pig and its piglets have grown fat & lazy... competing with lawfare now? DEI? I don't know, but Elon & crew making them Bad. Think I'll get another cup of coffee... hhmmmmm....
Too many hands in the pot taking
Do you not realize that Thales is a French company and is pronounced more like ‘Ta lees’ (with a hard T)?
I note this, thanks your feedback!
D.O.G.E. ✅
Yes
Yes