NASA's New Space Station Has A Big Problem! (Axiom)

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  • @TheSpaceRaceYT
    @TheSpaceRaceYT  3 місяці тому +13

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    • @lagrangewei
      @lagrangewei 3 місяці тому

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      @i-love-space390 3 місяці тому +1

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      @thrackl3 3 місяці тому +1

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  • @Project2013B
    @Project2013B 3 місяці тому +304

    Axiom meet Boeing. Boeing meet Axiom.
    Axiom: H...h...Hi.
    Boeing: Pfffffftttt.... you amateurs haven't even killed anyone or stranded anyone in space. Amateurs!

    • @Alien_Bones
      @Alien_Bones 3 місяці тому +6

      @@tim2024-df5fu Russians do not lose ''Cosmonauts''!!!...She was simply misplaced in space...

    • @Dyas777
      @Dyas777 3 місяці тому

      ⁠@@tim2024-df5fuI never heard about that. Can you give details please?

    • @kathrynck
      @kathrynck 3 місяці тому +3

      the way Axiom says "H...h...Hi" makes me think there's going to be a comment including "senpai" next.

    • @Alien_Bones
      @Alien_Bones 3 місяці тому

      @@kathrynck So, a hentai enthusiast, i see...thank for letting us all know, i guess...

    • @trevors6379
      @trevors6379 3 місяці тому

      Boeing? Give me a break, you're going to fly every flight of your life in a Boeing plane, you know?

  • @richardpapp1340
    @richardpapp1340 3 місяці тому +238

    I will say that often your videos have a bit of a negative tone, but I have to appreciate the honesty. It’s crazy just how poorly all these aerospace companies are run. They are SO used to siphoning off government funding.

    • @Alien_Bones
      @Alien_Bones 3 місяці тому +17

      Ain't that the true ''american way'' of do things?!

    • @billweberx
      @billweberx 3 місяці тому +15

      With the exception of SpaceX.

    • @HenochVelazquez
      @HenochVelazquez 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Alien_Boneshe’s Canadian 😐

    • @Alien_Bones
      @Alien_Bones 3 місяці тому +1

      @@HenochVelazquez No one cares, really...

    • @waspsandwich6548
      @waspsandwich6548 3 місяці тому

      ​​@@billweberxno...spacex takes way too much government money. That's just how the industry is. At least they're doing good work with taxpayer dollars though

  • @christhescienceguy6285
    @christhescienceguy6285 3 місяці тому +30

    It's upsetting that China can do 4 launches and build a whole new space station in a year, but we in the U.S can barely even build one module. I think private space companies are steering us in the wrong direction and failing on their promises.

    • @dijikstra8
      @dijikstra8 3 місяці тому

      Of course, they were always designed to channel money into deep pockets.

    • @georgedang449
      @georgedang449 2 місяці тому

      It's led and manned by the same people that failed NASA - Americans. Swap out these incompetents for Chinese, and you'll get Chinese results.

    • @saaddudin7163
      @saaddudin7163 Місяць тому

      What more upseting, us preventing them to join in.

    • @lucamarsiglia7284
      @lucamarsiglia7284 29 днів тому

      bro there they have no safety lol ofc they do 1000 lunch and dont have safty plan lol the otyher do thing well and take time lol like building a good home or a shitty hoome then then fall lol idiot

    • @JeremyHorn80
      @JeremyHorn80 23 дні тому

      Because of good ol Red Tape federal bureaucracy

  • @johnconner8218
    @johnconner8218 3 місяці тому +86

    A program manager familiar with government funding (everything way overpriced) trying to run a new company as a CEO SMH

  • @bruceperkins2921
    @bruceperkins2921 3 місяці тому +326

    a government official that is terrible in the private sector? no way! surely you jest....

    • @THX..1138
      @THX..1138 3 місяці тому +28

      🤔...Yeah I'm shocked spending taxpayer money all those years didn't prepare him better for the private sector.

    • @Com3outNDripB4itsUR2Late
      @Com3outNDripB4itsUR2Late 3 місяці тому

      Oh u didn't hear they are cartel traffickers and money launderers

    • @brianboye8025
      @brianboye8025 3 місяці тому +6

      And don't call me Shirly.

    • @visions91
      @visions91 3 місяці тому +7

      Spending? Wasting, you mean. 😅​@@THX..1138

    • @theNicholas1117
      @theNicholas1117 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@visions91 😂😂

  • @daniels7907
    @daniels7907 3 місяці тому +44

    Given his background he probably just assumed that the government would give Axiom a bailout as they do whenever the private sector fails to live up to its promises.

    • @AWriterWandering
      @AWriterWandering 3 місяці тому +10

      Government contractors lowball their estimates to get the contract, knowing full well that it’s not anywhere close to what they actually need

    • @daniels7907
      @daniels7907 3 місяці тому +4

      @@AWriterWandering - True. Again, it's that issue where going over budget and having to ask for forgiveness (and more money) is a valid business model because the government so reliably falls for it. Same deal with missing target dates for delivery of product. Boeing is currently losing money on Starliner because NASA has broken tradition and not been giving them more money. Of course, that's because NASA doesn't want to stick their necks out to Congress when SpaceX has a working capsule. How much it will be worth if we end up with no space station will be a matter of debate though. While *our* target is to de-orbit the ISS in 2030, the Russians could force it to happen sooner if they decide to pull out of the ISS in favor of their partnership with China. Some of the most important modules on the ISS belong to them after all.

    • @meatsaucez1516
      @meatsaucez1516 3 місяці тому +5

      I can’t help but roll my eyes when you mentioned axiom was going to keep continued human habitation of orbital space as if the Chinese space station didn’t exist.

    • @daniels7907
      @daniels7907 3 місяці тому

      @@meatsaucez1516 - Whose comment are you replying to? Because I explicitly said that Russia was going to switch to working with China (because Russia's not really our ally and China has their own space station)

  • @WETDOGBR
    @WETDOGBR 3 місяці тому +116

    If that guy was able to run a government administration position for 30 years and now he broke a private company in one year it only expose how inefficient government is.

    • @calc1657
      @calc1657 3 місяці тому +15

      It's just an example of skillset mismatch. The issue is more to do with the company being a startup, rather than simply private sector. The same thing happened with the NSA director-founded IronNet cybersecurity company. These govt/military veterans would be better off running mature companies, like Lockheed Martin.

    • @ijarbis187
      @ijarbis187 3 місяці тому

      @@calc1657NASA is extremely inefficient. Talented engineers with nothing to do is the NASA standard

    • @holocene2164
      @holocene2164 3 місяці тому +12

      Not really. He could have been great at his job but running a private company is a different ball game. Using one example and applying it to all cases is a logical fallacy buddy.

    • @SoulRocketMan
      @SoulRocketMan 3 місяці тому

      Political correctness and DEI is the main cause

    • @WETDOGBR
      @WETDOGBR 3 місяці тому +12

      @@holocene2164 running a private company requires competence because your are dealing with your own money.

  • @WebberAerialImaging
    @WebberAerialImaging 3 місяці тому +170

    There's a reason SLS is $9billion/launch. People like him are accustomed to spending without accountability to the financiers. NASA doesn't have that direct line to contend with.

    • @UghIHateTheseThings
      @UghIHateTheseThings 3 місяці тому

      Yup

    • @josephparrish8773
      @josephparrish8773 3 місяці тому +4

      Good lord, is it really 9’billion?!

    • @WebberAerialImaging
      @WebberAerialImaging 3 місяці тому +6

      @@josephparrish8773 probably more now than the launch tower needs repairs following the single launch.
      Following the launch, the only thing they "may" reuse is the capsule. Consequently, the launches will only get more expensive as inflation eats at the budget.

    • @anonymes2884
      @anonymes2884 3 місяці тому +10

      @@josephparrish8773 What they mean is, it's cost a _total_ of $9 billion to achieve one launch (i.e. the SLS program has cost that much so far). It obviously doesn't actually cost that _per_ launch though (it's like saying each voyage on the Titanic cost $7.5 million - technically true because that was the build cost and it only ever had one voyage).

    • @ivant5054
      @ivant5054 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@anonymes2884duh, it's 4 launches from a program that costs around 40 billion, you do the math per launch genius

  • @MadJustin7
    @MadJustin7 3 місяці тому +120

    Are we "surprised" that a man who's used to open ended government funding doesn't know how to run a for profit business?

    • @WETDOGBR
      @WETDOGBR 3 місяці тому +3

      @@MadJustin7 no

    • @Jasontrower-rundle
      @Jasontrower-rundle 3 місяці тому

      you should'nt fucking run government contracts like that either! guy's an arsehole, aerospace companies all seem to be run by homer fucking simpson

    • @trevors6379
      @trevors6379 3 місяці тому

      The only money there is to be made in space is through government projects. What else are you gonna do? Time shares in outer fucking space? Gold membership, only $10 million a year!

    • @WETDOGBR
      @WETDOGBR 3 місяці тому

      @@AdmiralSpaceballs tell us a few names

    • @ronfullerton3162
      @ronfullerton3162 28 днів тому

      ​@@AdmiralSpaceballsHaving a job in the private sector, and actually running the show is two completely different things. Private sector businesses do not have Uncle Sam's bottomless pockets to operate with. Instead they must plan and operate within their fiscal abilities. Hiring a bunch of engineers with no apparent job ready for them sounds just like a bureaucrats way of making their department look grand to remain funded. Unfortunately private sector business funders look at the bottom line to decide who they fund. Makes me worry about much of our space industry. If they do not run themselves as a self contained business, they may not survive a Trump Administration.

  • @barnmaddo
    @barnmaddo 3 місяці тому +137

    Sounds like this is a NASA problem. If getting one person to space on a falcon 9 costs $40 million, then there's no way anyone is producing an entire space station for just $150 million.

    • @BartJBols
      @BartJBols 3 місяці тому +16

      Its not intended to pay for the entire station, they are supposed to run the station commerially and pay for it that way, the 150 mil is a grant they got to help them because nasa would love someone they can rent station space from.

    • @JustJayGaming
      @JustJayGaming 3 місяці тому +5

      NASA paid 2.7 Billion on the second SLS launch tower, they can surely get some more money to fund a new space Station.

    • @hectorpascale1013
      @hectorpascale1013 3 місяці тому +6

      @@JustJayGaming That´s nearly 2x Burj Khalifa.
      But hey! The skyscraper is lacking a sewers connection and needs pump trucks.

    • @Com3outNDripB4itsUR2Late
      @Com3outNDripB4itsUR2Late 3 місяці тому +1

      These cartels can't figure out our white dollars

    • @danielkerber8667
      @danielkerber8667 3 місяці тому +3

      The goal is to rent the station. They give money to develop it, but even if nothing is produced the IP is still there and can be sold to another company eventually. It is inefficient though. Plus Spacex pretty much makes there development pointless now given they are so close to getting Starship so close to being ready. And it wouldn't be hard to just develop a space station using that platform instead. Basically Axiom is a decade late.

  • @Chuck8541
    @Chuck8541 3 місяці тому +18

    "Blue Origin is doing, what they...do. Talking a lot, delivering...not very much." lol Burrrrn

  • @MyKharli
    @MyKharli 3 місяці тому +12

    space hype is bigger than space itself

    • @RyujJan
      @RyujJan 2 місяці тому

      @@MyKharli nothing hype about space. China has long-term plans to begin the human settlement of the solar system, starting with an outpost on the moon.
      Usa can't afford to be surpassed by China in human spaceflight.

  • @Nemophilist850
    @Nemophilist850 3 місяці тому +15

    It feels like if your space company is not built off the back off some other massive business empire, you have almost no chance. You have to have money coming in from somewhere else for the things that inevitably go wrong.

    • @notgreg123
      @notgreg123 3 місяці тому +5

      I mean Rocket Lab is doing pretty well. They did what they should've done and started small rather than trying to build a space station right off the bat. They also make a lot of their money from satellite parts

    • @michaelh8890
      @michaelh8890 3 місяці тому +3

      As they say, space is hard

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 3 місяці тому +1

      @@michaelh8890 right, and there is a reason they also say: "It's not rocket science"! ;D

  • @adrianlivingstone8520
    @adrianlivingstone8520 3 місяці тому +11

    Thales is a French/Australian Defence contractor, the Australian section is responsible for munitions, while the French side is responsible for pretty much everything else. ADFI or Australian Defence Force Industries was merged with Thales, just some background info for the fans!

    • @MollyGermek
      @MollyGermek 3 місяці тому +1

      The Australian section also builds the Hawkei and Bushmaster

    • @NiklasHolsti
      @NiklasHolsti 3 місяці тому +2

      Alenia Spazio was an Italian aerospace company. Thales Alenia Space is a joint multi-national venture with headquarters in Cannes, France.

  • @ChrisMarshallUS
    @ChrisMarshallUS 3 місяці тому +16

    Sadly, unless they can address the issues urgently I suspect Axiom will abandon the station before it is ever launched. However, VAST has recently made some significant announcements include Haven-1 and Haven-2 and it seems they have better funding in place.

    • @ClayinSWVA
      @ClayinSWVA 3 місяці тому +1

      I'm sure Thales and SpaceX will play lets make a deal at some point in 2025 with Trump's NASA providing some funding for ongoing support. Those modules look almost ready ready and a lot of the engineering is done, so get them built and flying after a quick safety review.

    • @stainlesssteelfox1
      @stainlesssteelfox1 3 місяці тому +2

      @@ClayinSWVA You think a Trump administration will buy space station modules from Italy?

    • @AWriterWandering
      @AWriterWandering 3 місяці тому

      @@stainlesssteelfox1 more likely money will just get pumped into SpaceX to build a whole new space station. One which will never actually be delivered, but nevertheless will make Musk the trillionaire he always wanted to be.

    • @AWriterWandering
      @AWriterWandering 3 місяці тому

      @@stainlesssteelfox1 especially when SpaceX can just start from scratch and never deliver anything while making Elon a trillionaire.

    • @AWriterWandering
      @AWriterWandering 3 місяці тому

      @@ClayinSWVA some funding? There’s a reason Musk is bankrolling his campaign. He will get all the funding.

  • @meatsaucez1516
    @meatsaucez1516 3 місяці тому +20

    China having the last laugh as they watch NASA and USA scramble to keep anything resembling a space station in orbit while floating in their own space station. 😂
    Idk guys maybe banning them from joining the ISS wasn’t the brightest move💀

    • @georgedang449
      @georgedang449 2 місяці тому +7

      It's right for them - imagine the Chinese being forced to drag all this dead weight around. Now they're running lean.

  • @momofmanda
    @momofmanda 3 місяці тому +5

    I appreciate The Space Race & Tesla Space. Current information that’s not filled with repetitive stuff, nice subtle sense of humor, and under 30 minutes.

  • @thetreekeeper143
    @thetreekeeper143 3 місяці тому +8

    Just get the Chinese to do it. They will do it at half the price and twice as quick.

  • @s4098429
    @s4098429 3 місяці тому +59

    That window idea for the sleep pods designed by that architect are dumb as fuck.
    Sunrise and sunset happen every 90mins orbiting the earth.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 3 місяці тому +4

      yeah, and I wonder if venetian blinds work in zero G!! LOL ;D

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 3 місяці тому +10

      ​@@ronschlorff7089
      Sure if they are positioned permanently ”lowered” inside a frame and you just open and close them. And they aren't built by Boeing.

    • @ham_the_spam4423
      @ham_the_spam4423 3 місяці тому +5

      It sounds like they were tacking on every luxury and feature they can think of to justify getting more money.

    • @kokomo9764
      @kokomo9764 3 місяці тому +1

      Curtains

    • @Gurumeierhans
      @Gurumeierhans 3 місяці тому +10

      Right, there is no technology to block sunlight on a window, right?

  • @aowen2471
    @aowen2471 3 місяці тому +17

    8:57 "Powe And Handle Climet Control." 🤔

    • @joakimastro
      @joakimastro 3 місяці тому +6

      you cant handle the climet, its very powefull

    • @Alien_Bones
      @Alien_Bones 3 місяці тому +1

      @@joakimastro I saw what you did there...sooo mean, dude... 🤣🤣

    • @Alien_Bones
      @Alien_Bones 3 місяці тому

      Power* Climate* ... But what he meant was ''atmospheric control''

    • @jacoblf
      @jacoblf 3 місяці тому +1

      I can't believe those are typos. They must be some sort of unexplained cutsey acronyms. Like Climet instead of ECLSS.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 3 місяці тому

      @@jacoblfRyte, I can't belive tha tipos ether! LOL

  • @genius1a
    @genius1a 3 місяці тому +6

    Okay, Ihave to admit, I was wondering for years, where Axiom had gotten the funds to do those nice Space missions, that were great to watch und groundbreaking. You finally gave the answer in this video: they simply wrote it down to pay later. Hopefully the new honest and more cost conscious way will work out. The've already done waaay more than most other aerospace companies had down in the last decades. This is real stuff, made to make humans interplanetary on the long run.
    PS: I edited out centuries, as I wanted to say decades of course.

    • @horridohobbies
      @horridohobbies 3 місяці тому +1

      In the last centuries? What aerospace company is more than 50 years old?

    • @ham_the_spam4423
      @ham_the_spam4423 3 місяці тому

      Plural centuries? The first space missions were less than 80 years ago.

    • @genius1a
      @genius1a 3 місяці тому

      @@horridohobbies PS: Uuuups ... now I got it! Decades, not centuries! I'm sorry, english isn't my native language. I edit it out, makes no sense, that's true.
      There have been well known Aerospace companies around for dacades: Rockwell International (built the Space Shuttles), Boeing, Sierra Nevada Corporation (now Sierra Space), Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grummin. Of course they all needed (or would have needed) money from Nasa and the US Space Force. That is not fundamentally different from our day and age. Even Space X wouldn't be where its today without that fundings.
      The fact that these decades old companies didn't launch anything themselves (as there were no private rockets back then) does not directly refer to my comment, as I tried to aim it at companies that built space hardware like space stations and human transport vehicles, not lifting hardware. But of course most of them also built parts for lifting hardware and the ISS.

  • @johnstewart579
    @johnstewart579 3 місяці тому +4

    Thank you for this rather disturbing update on Axiom Space. It would seem that VAST is the only competitor currently in the running to place the worlds first fully commercial space station in orbit.

  • @CMVBrielman
    @CMVBrielman 3 місяці тому +4

    Well, that is disappointing. If Axiom can’t do it, I would love to see SpaceX partner with Sierra to build a space station based on their 9 meter faring LIFE module. One launch on a starship, inflate it, and you have 5x the pressurized volume as the ISS.
    It could even be a test flight of Starship - they’ve already proven they can get it to orbit, in principle.

  • @Wrangler-fp4ei
    @Wrangler-fp4ei 3 місяці тому +4

    Hopefully Vast who's posed launch next year their prototype Haven-1 station will work out in the end. Axion was such unsupervised disaster...

  • @neuos.t5858
    @neuos.t5858 3 місяці тому +5

    Turning a Spacex Starship into a space station would be cool af!

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 3 місяці тому

      yup, it was done before in the 1970's with Sky Lab, and it worked for a while, so why not now?

    • @blackknight4996
      @blackknight4996 3 місяці тому

      LoL 😂
      No wonder United Snakes has no STEM graduates

  • @neuos.t5858
    @neuos.t5858 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey man, at 8:58 in the graphic you forgot an R. Great video no matter what though! thank you for keeping us informed

  • @shreyanshshah4188
    @shreyanshshah4188 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm not sure if you'll read my comment, but I want to say that your channel was very realistic three years ago. For three years, I eagerly awaited Mechazilla's success and your discussion about it, but surprisingly, you never mentioned it at all.

  • @MikeGiovenco
    @MikeGiovenco 3 місяці тому +7

    Bigelow would have been a much better space station than any of these.

    • @metriczeppelin
      @metriczeppelin 3 місяці тому +2

      Come on, Mike, you know NASA can always do it better....tee tee tee.

    • @xergiok2322
      @xergiok2322 3 місяці тому +1

      Sierra is doing that now.

  • @gospelaccordingtojohn8959
    @gospelaccordingtojohn8959 3 місяці тому +14

    If you want to run a successful company, the first thing to do is hire a government bureaucrat

  • @KevinWebb
    @KevinWebb 3 місяці тому +2

    How does any company on that scale not have analysts crunching the numbers around costing, efficiency improvements, and long term forecasting? Government agencies and nonprofits are incredibly wasteful.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 3 місяці тому +1

      Musk will soon fix that, if given a chance!! ;D

    • @xergiok2322
      @xergiok2322 3 місяці тому +1

      Government agencies perhaps, but as someone who works for a nonprofit, I can tell you we are forced to be extremely frugal.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 3 місяці тому

      @@xergiok2322 right, I imagine when make nothing you can't afford to lose nothing to waste!! LOL ;D

    • @xergiok2322
      @xergiok2322 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ronschlorff7089 That's quite right. We don't make profits... it's kind of in the name.

  • @christopherosborn7081
    @christopherosborn7081 3 місяці тому +20

    I'd love to see an inflatable space station in space.

    • @DrMackSplackem
      @DrMackSplackem 3 місяці тому +4

      For sure. You know what else would be nice and is long overdue? A reduced gravity (or pseudogravity) medical research station in LEO. It could be as simple as a tethered pair.

    • @Wrangler-fp4ei
      @Wrangler-fp4ei 3 місяці тому +2

      Hopefully Sierra Space can pull it together, but they're too dependent on Blue Origin for their partnership. They may pull it off, but it depends on BO sorting themselves out. We'll have see how New Glenn pans out.

    • @cardboard9124
      @cardboard9124 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Wrangler-fp4ei sierra space is doing awesome, i have no doubt they will succeed

    • @ionsilver557
      @ionsilver557 3 місяці тому +2

      We regret to inform you, sir, that we got space station inflation before inflatable space stations.

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade 3 місяці тому +2

      they tested an inflatable module on the ISS already.

  • @Dragonych1976
    @Dragonych1976 3 місяці тому

    There is a proverb: do not trust when is softly made. The bigger and more beautifully the picture is drawn in the presentation, the greater the failure of the planned program.

  • @erfquake1
    @erfquake1 3 місяці тому +4

    Great video, thank you! Question: why are we letting the ISS burn up in the atmosphere again? It's inherently modular, parts of it CAN be saved if they're still useful, like the solar panels and cupola and other stuff. So if we're planning to build a new one, whoever that ends up being, and put it in the same LEO location, then for christmas sakes why not save some of the parts? What's it gonna take, a space garage to store extra modules just in case? I think ditching the entire ISS is going to be viewed as having been a terrible move after it's over. (PS: it's spelled "climate.")

    • @brianboye8025
      @brianboye8025 3 місяці тому

      Why can't we sell the ISS in whole or in part?

    • @ClayinSWVA
      @ClayinSWVA 3 місяці тому +1

      Wear and tear. It was not designed to last forever up in Space and there is some nasty mold that tends to grow up there.

    • @bobcousins4810
      @bobcousins4810 3 місяці тому +2

      Stuff in space actually degrades quite quickly, leading to relatively short lifespans. Space might seem "empty" but it is a really harsh environment. Unlike terrestrial infrastructure, it is pretty impossible to do structural repairs in orbit.

    • @Sour_Patch_Kid_
      @Sour_Patch_Kid_ 3 місяці тому +1

      To give you an analogy, it's like trying to take a 1980 Toyota Corolla and outfit it with Bluetooth, GPS, backup camera, lane assist, etc. It is not worth trying to keep it up and doesn't have the capability to expand with new technology. i.e. some of the data connections are serial versus digital.

    • @Aaron-x1x5f
      @Aaron-x1x5f 3 місяці тому

      Part of the problem is we worry so much about the cost to benefit ratio that things in these areas of production rarely make it passed cool CGI investment ads. The industry is full of unpaid development teams, fabricators, and yet the guys wearing the suits are living a king's life, while producing nothing but ideas.

  • @johnnymac6178
    @johnnymac6178 3 місяці тому +24

    NASA didn't "give out" all that money...the US taxpayers did. Where is the accountability?? Who is getting punished for failing? How do we get a return on our investment? I am all for space travel and exploration but at what cost? People can't afford groceries or rent but these companies can waste hundreds of millions of dollars on absolutely nothing.

    • @CountryLifestyle2023
      @CountryLifestyle2023 3 місяці тому

      The taxpayers don't give out the money lol 😂😂
      Government job is not to tell you how to manage your money

    • @paulmichaelfreedman8334
      @paulmichaelfreedman8334 3 місяці тому +4

      DoD budget is over 900 billion. NASA gets around 20

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 3 місяці тому +1

      Pork barrel politics.

    • @BeingFireRetardant
      @BeingFireRetardant 3 місяці тому

      ​@@paulmichaelfreedman8334
      There is also another 200B black budget, never mentioned, of which NASA gets another 40B.

  • @McClarinJ
    @McClarinJ 3 місяці тому +21

    The Starship is slightly larger in volume than the ISS so could be outfitted on the ground, complete with windows and docking ports, and sent to orbit as a very low-cost replacement.

    • @jameswilson5165
      @jameswilson5165 3 місяці тому +9

      Wrong. Starship is large, but it's mostly fuel tanks and engines. Now, having said that: it has plenty of room for inflatable habs. Stay-Puff Marshmellow Station could be assembled very quickly.

    • @Lucas12v
      @Lucas12v 3 місяці тому +1

      I've wondered about using empty starships as temporary habititats on the moon or mars. Not just the cargo compartment but the fuel tanks as well. It's a large empty airtight space. Seems like there's probably some way to repurpose it. Obviously using a starship that won't fly again.
      The idea of using them as spacestations/modules seems plausible using a modified design. Or maybe not, I'm a welder not a aerospace engineer.

    • @ham_the_spam4423
      @ham_the_spam4423 3 місяці тому

      @@Lucas12vsame problem as container homes. Sounds good at first because it’s reusing old stuff, but there’s many problems when you look closer.
      If a spacecraft gets reused into a station, a replacement will need to be built which would probably cost more than using that rocket to send up a station part then using that rocket for more missions elsewhere.

    • @unpaintedleadsyndrome
      @unpaintedleadsyndrome 3 місяці тому +4

      @@jameswilson5165 go look at the footage from flight 3 when they showed the inside of the payload bay... It's massive. Yes, the tanks are even larger but who cares?

    • @unpaintedleadsyndrome
      @unpaintedleadsyndrome 3 місяці тому

      @@ham_the_spam4423 it's not reusing a Starship, it's using one designed as one.

  • @michaelreid2329
    @michaelreid2329 3 місяці тому +5

    So what was Axiom's revenue stream whilst the station modules were being designed and built?

    • @Jasontrower-rundle
      @Jasontrower-rundle 3 місяці тому +5

      hope into one hand, shit into the other. see which one fills up first

    • @michaelreid2329
      @michaelreid2329 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Jasontrower-rundle then they should not have been awarded any contract.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 3 місяці тому

      @@Jasontrower-rundle right, not so long ago we were offered "hope and change" but got a bunch of shit instead. Soon to be possibly repeated, I predict!! Take your choice! ;D

  • @tsukasa1608
    @tsukasa1608 3 місяці тому +4

    Does that mean Tiangong Space Station will be the only working space station in orbit after ISS retired?

    • @SpaceAdvocate
      @SpaceAdvocate 3 місяці тому +1

      No, it's likely that some of the commercial options like Starlab, Haven or Axiom will be ready. And the Lunar Gateway should also be operational at that point.
      But there is a real possibility that the Tiangong station will be the biggest space station for a while.

  • @yanis905
    @yanis905 3 місяці тому +6

    This is very disappointing. Up to now, I was a fan of Axiom and was looking forward to seeing their space station up and running.
    Well, there's still Vast And Voyager Space, I guess.
    Not sure about Orbital Reef.

    • @metriczeppelin
      @metriczeppelin 3 місяці тому +1

      Orbital reef is another CGI fantasy.

  • @Sugar3Glider
    @Sugar3Glider 3 місяці тому

    I dont understand why they would connect to the existing space station... One of the main issues is that the station is so dirty from being a floating pitri dish.
    They should keep those things separate just so we reduce the chances of something learning how to survive well in space without us wanting it to...

  • @SoilFiction
    @SoilFiction 3 місяці тому +1

    When I saw a video, where they showed, they build wooden prototypes, I already thought, they never achieve the delivery date.

    • @metriczeppelin
      @metriczeppelin 3 місяці тому +1

      Spot on, sir. at least they could hire the CGI guys who make those great video's for Blue Origin.

  • @bobcousins4810
    @bobcousins4810 3 місяці тому +1

    There are lots of people searching for a business model in order to exploit the space sector, but not finding one. The problem with space projects that need to start big to be viable is that doing a big project is expensive and risky.
    So far only only a few like Elon seems to understand how to run a business model; start with something small that can be scaled and turn it into a cash cow, then you can use the revenue to invest in the "big project".

  • @soothsayer2406
    @soothsayer2406 3 місяці тому +2

    The space station will be built by 2080 at the earliest.

  • @King-zr2vh
    @King-zr2vh 3 місяці тому +3

    Elon should buy Axiom!

    • @denysvlasenko1865
      @denysvlasenko1865 3 місяці тому +2

      Why buy losers when he has better engineers already?

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 3 місяці тому

      @@denysvlasenko1865 purchase of a company's infrastructure does not always include the "meat"!! LOL

    • @xergiok2322
      @xergiok2322 3 місяці тому +1

      Why would he do that?

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 3 місяці тому

      @@xergiok2322 I imagine when can do something you might do it just to upset or put your competition off guard, foreign and domestic! Sort of like making an "unorthodox" move in chess! ;D

    • @Dicloxacillin_dexmedetomidine
      @Dicloxacillin_dexmedetomidine Місяць тому

      Americans are trusting elon musk way too much

  • @RealBenAnderson
    @RealBenAnderson 3 місяці тому

    Short version: a government bureaucrat used to wasting taxpayer money from an infinite supply can’t do anything once constrained by a realistic budget.

  • @soothsayer2406
    @soothsayer2406 3 місяці тому +1

    Honesty is the best policy.. they should have followed this from the very beginning....I guess better late then never.

  • @leenonolee4629
    @leenonolee4629 3 місяці тому +1

    Remember 911? The building put out so much dust and toxic dust that people got sick for years after. What is an object the size of the space station going to put into the atmosphere? They should attach a booster that will gradually move it into a higher orbit, then leave orbit and make its way to the sun.

    • @golem_videomaking
      @golem_videomaking 2 місяці тому

      it will do nothing, mostly will burn and only small metal pieces will hit the the water, without putting out no dust. that's arleady happened a lot of times with all the soviet stations, including mir which wasn't big as the iss but still pretty big, and skylab

  • @isbestlizard
    @isbestlizard 3 місяці тому +2

    'Powe and Climet control fills me with confidence as to their professionalism and attention to detail...

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 3 місяці тому

      hey, enough knocking our kids today and their "pubic screw-well" educations!! ;D LOL

  • @swapshots4427
    @swapshots4427 2 місяці тому +1

    Will the Dragon detach and reenter and splash down? If the target is the pacific garbage patch, once it got ISS on the right trajectory it could continue on to the American coast. Why waste the capsule.

  • @daleeasternbrat816
    @daleeasternbrat816 3 місяці тому +1

    Sometimes Engineers make Bad Businessmen. Beancounters wreck engineering companies like Boeing but an engineering company has to have Business Sense!

  • @Sugar3Glider
    @Sugar3Glider 3 місяці тому +1

    Oh god... Now theres another 'unbiased' news source.

  • @robsycko
    @robsycko 2 місяці тому +1

    With starship you dont need a space station,

  • @ratvomit874
    @ratvomit874 3 місяці тому

    _A is for Axiom, your home sweet home_
    _B is for B&L, your very best friend_

  • @lightlegion_
    @lightlegion_ 3 місяці тому

    Your content is exceptionally unique!

  • @40MileDesertRat
    @40MileDesertRat 3 місяці тому

    Now, NASA has adopted their business model from committees in Congress. That would be to waste a great deal of money, talk a lot about oneself, and then do nothing.

  • @brokenbones78629
    @brokenbones78629 3 місяці тому

    Fun fact: the guy in black at 3:27 is literally just there to tickle the astronauts before launch. Weird job but hey someone's gotta do it 🤷

  • @tonyug113
    @tonyug113 3 місяці тому +2

    Ok -- not that surpised as their focus seemed to be taking their managers for jollies upto the iss, for very weak reasons..

  • @SG-js2qn
    @SG-js2qn 3 місяці тому +1

    The pursuit of -excellence- cents.

  • @unpaintedleadsyndrome
    @unpaintedleadsyndrome 3 місяці тому +1

    We all know how this will end... Wingless Starship flitted as a station.

  • @chippysteve4524
    @chippysteve4524 3 місяці тому

    Perhaps the idea for the inflatable space module came from someone watching a tick on a dog whilst talking about corporate strategy at Boeing.

  • @henrycarlson7514
    @henrycarlson7514 3 місяці тому

    Interesting , Thank You. To me the sad part is there are already at least 2 operating space stations , to use as a base design and improve on

  • @moisttowlette123
    @moisttowlette123 3 місяці тому +1

    Heads up at 3:03 there remains a bit of a placeholder slide that just says "animation"

  • @thatguyoverthere8355
    @thatguyoverthere8355 3 місяці тому

    Not paying contractors, city arenas, lawyers, business and personal taxes worked well for Convict45 for decades😂

  • @mucro849
    @mucro849 3 місяці тому +1

    Elon Musk should build a space station.

  • @arthurlau98
    @arthurlau98 3 місяці тому +9

    At this point, Elon with SpaceX will be the only one pulling the entire world forward due to incomeptence in the whole industry.

    • @jasjordan1
      @jasjordan1 3 місяці тому

      Starship should be landing Mars any day now.😂😂

    • @metriczeppelin
      @metriczeppelin 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jasjordan1 Is your laughter from sarcasm or ignorance? Laugh if you want, but absolutely no one is even close to Starship in technology and pace.

    • @jasjordan1
      @jasjordan1 3 місяці тому

      ​​@@metriczeppelinMy laughter comes from people who are so lacking in critical thinking skills that they compare Elon launching exploding tin cans into the air to the actual achievement of the past 50 years. SLS literally completed a moon mission on its first launch, yet you say that no one can match SpaceX?? It's statements like that that make me laugh.

  • @LG-qz8om
    @LG-qz8om 3 місяці тому +1

    Lets start with Logics -- or rather Illogics.
    A company hires other companies to build things. Why does he need 1000 empoyees? That could be done by a handful who just handle paperwork (legal & bills).
    I had a friend who wemt on a hiring spree to 180 employees only to have to fire half of them.
    Unless someone is absolutely vital, Payroll is the primary cost of an Administrative Company.
    You do everything with as few people as necessary and employ a lot of automation (MS word, Excel, etc)

    • @LG-qz8om
      @LG-qz8om 3 місяці тому

      My 1st company i employed just 4 people to generate $1.36 m per year starting 2 months after the company started.
      I think you can do more with just a few good people. And anyone working should be generating more money than they cost.

  • @kastenolsen9577
    @kastenolsen9577 3 місяці тому +1

    Leave it to a government lump to F things up.

  • @derekturner3272
    @derekturner3272 3 місяці тому +1

    Look at the rate of failures for the moon shot, all the plans for the new space station, bridges and planes falling.... Line it up with the increase in DEI. Correlation... and causation...

    • @michaelh8890
      @michaelh8890 3 місяці тому

      Any proof of your premise?

    • @derekturner3272
      @derekturner3272 3 місяці тому

      @@michaelh8890 How about you prove DEI isn't responsible for the increases in failures over the past 8 years. SMH....

  • @triplebog
    @triplebog 3 місяці тому

    Government employees can't hold up with any real consequences or competition? Say it isnt so! THE SHOCK!

  • @Hiddensecret9
    @Hiddensecret9 3 місяці тому

    Axiom Space Station started with big promises, aiming to usher in a new era of commercial space stations. However, ambitious projects often face significant challenges in execution.

  • @horridohobbies
    @horridohobbies 3 місяці тому +4

    This story is so typical of American tech development. Weak government oversight. Poor corporate management. Wasteful spending. Inferior engineering talent.
    Boeing is the prime example of this. Now, we have Axiom. If I were a betting man, I'd say we won't see a completed space station until well into the 2030s, if ever.
    Thank heavens we have Tiangong.

  • @kathrynck
    @kathrynck 3 місяці тому +1

    $140 Million contract? To replace a $150 Billion (2010 dollars) ISS?
    suuuure, that was realistic.

    • @SpaceAdvocate
      @SpaceAdvocate 3 місяці тому

      NASA paid for a single habitable module that could be attached to the ISS, not a full space station. I don't think it was meant to cover the full cost of the module, either.

  • @sashrikgupta9708
    @sashrikgupta9708 3 місяці тому +1

    just give the damm contract to spacex they will do it in 1-2 years

  • @AngeloXification
    @AngeloXification 3 місяці тому +14

    These contracts are a fraction of payments toward defense contractors 😢

  • @BnORailFan
    @BnORailFan 3 місяці тому +1

    Gross mismanagement? How did it continue for so long???

    • @paulmichaelfreedman8334
      @paulmichaelfreedman8334 3 місяці тому

      did not surprise me one bit, I thought the whole axiom thing was hot air from the start. I don't see orbital reef being built anytime soon either.

  • @peterjackson2666
    @peterjackson2666 3 місяці тому +1

    Simple solution is to extend the deadline to 2125.

  • @TiberiusMaximus
    @TiberiusMaximus 3 місяці тому +6

    at this point just give it all to SpaceX, at least you know it'll get done

    • @nightlightabcd
      @nightlightabcd 3 місяці тому +1

      Actually, we really don't know that! Starship has a long, long way to go and have they even started on their moon lander?

    • @bluesteel8376
      @bluesteel8376 3 місяці тому +3

      @@nightlightabcd Yes, they have started on their moon lander. Last I heard they had already hit over 30 milestones on the moon lander.

    • @MagicToenail
      @MagicToenail 3 місяці тому

      @@bluesteel8376but that's not an ISS

    • @ythegamerita
      @ythegamerita 3 місяці тому +4

      Elon gonna make the inernaXional spaXe Xtation

    • @rantalbott6963
      @rantalbott6963 3 місяці тому

      I'm skeptical. In 2016, Musk said he planned to put humans on Mars by 2022. Now he's talking about *uncrewed* missions in 2026. So far, he hasn't even managed to get a Starship to orbit the *Earth*.

  • @RobbyHouseIV
    @RobbyHouseIV 3 місяці тому

    How much is Axiom in the tank? The situation is wholly fixable. I've always felt we should launch these capsules up into orbit until we have enough capsules to construct a large station which would be a simple matter of gathering all the capsules and assembling them.

  • @DrDavidThor
    @DrDavidThor 3 місяці тому +1

    __
    Payroll problems? Move your company to Tennessee, the volunteer state.

  • @Never-mind1960
    @Never-mind1960 Місяць тому

    The whole world needs to collaborate on building the first O'Neil cylinder as a giant hanger for long term building and habitation. The initial cost would be very high but would be made up for in less cost in constantly going back and forth from our giant gravity well.

    • @ChickensAndGardening
      @ChickensAndGardening 9 днів тому

      It will take 100 years from now before it's practical to build an O'Neill cylinder; we need robotic asteroid mining and construction systems in space, and imagine building a one-kilometer length cylinder that's a couple of meters thick to block radiation & micrometeorites. I certainly think we can and should do it! But it's not going to happen within our lifetimes, unfortunately.

    • @Never-mind1960
      @Never-mind1960 4 дні тому

      @@ChickensAndGardening - It does not have to be built all at once; we can start with a regular space station built to eventually be the hub, then bring up a module each trip that would be the eventual spokes of each end.
      Once the desired diameter is reached, then a living space module can be added to each end. At this point tests could be run on spin speeds and their effect on humans. After that, we may have mining bases on the moon and better steel manufacturing capabilities to create material that could be launched off the moon to waiting shuttles to bring materials to the station that would orbit farther out than the current space station.
      Perhaps even micrometeorites could be captured and used for building material. Once a tube starts to extend a mile or so, the hull can be expanded to store water for radiation shielding. Maybe the micrometeorites could be glued together to form a shield? There are so many possibilities, but we should start now or we will never learn.

    • @ChickensAndGardening
      @ChickensAndGardening 4 дні тому +1

      @ I think you're describing a wheel with spokes, not a cylinder, but yes we can start with some kind of simple ring that has just enough for human habitation, then keep adding to the length indefinitely.

    • @Never-mind1960
      @Never-mind1960 3 дні тому

      @ Yes, the ring would be the start. After the ring is finished, construction could begin in the other direction. Perhaps 2 rings could be started and then expanded and filled in-between. This would be a fun task for the engineers.

    • @ChickensAndGardening
      @ChickensAndGardening 3 дні тому +1

      @ Once the robotic mining and assembly systems are up and running, these types of construction projects can just go on indefinitely. Given enough time, and access to metal-rich asteroids like Phoebe, we can build habitats in deep space to house millions of people, perhaps billions eventually.

  • @visions91
    @visions91 3 місяці тому +1

    Maybe.... Make SpaceX do it?

  • @darploin5071
    @darploin5071 3 місяці тому

    What's going to have to happen is NASA's just gonna have to pay the subcontractor to finish the space station and NASA's gonna have to put it up there

  • @brentonbish
    @brentonbish 3 місяці тому

    Philip Stark is AUSTRALIAN

  • @YanmingNing
    @YanmingNing 3 місяці тому

    You know you are in hopeless sh*t when your problems no longer surprise people.

  • @awesomeink
    @awesomeink 3 місяці тому

    Really good job making a 6 minute video into 13 minutes and then put in a minute and a half of advertisement in the middle of it that's when I checked out

  • @viarnay
    @viarnay 3 місяці тому +1

    Sad news... a space station could be a solution for refuelling in space 😢

  • @1joshjosh1
    @1joshjosh1 2 місяці тому

    I am binge watching this guy's videos today

  • @bananacabbage7402
    @bananacabbage7402 3 місяці тому

    NASA should limit itself to genuine scientific missions such as space telescopes and planetary probes. Leave human space exploration to private enterprise who will do it better without huge amounts of taxpayer money being used inefficiently.

    • @lars-erikstrid2278
      @lars-erikstrid2278 3 місяці тому

      ESA can do that stuff, We do need NASA for manned exploration. They better shape up.

  • @DeadDancers
    @DeadDancers 3 місяці тому

    I would not want a window in my space coffin room.

  • @joechan3388
    @joechan3388 3 місяці тому

    NASA and Axiom are Hollywood studios,.

  • @businessmonez7230
    @businessmonez7230 3 місяці тому

    Keep Tesla alive

  • @esphilee
    @esphilee 3 місяці тому

    Judging on how long it took to get the Starliner into first flight, the mounting national debt, the pathetic state of leadership in NASA, the warmongering imperialist politician in and out of the office, and from the number of ongoing wars, it would probably take another 40 years.

  • @williamburroughs9686
    @williamburroughs9686 3 місяці тому

    If Axiom wants to save this program. Then it has some hard choices to make.
    The CEO is going to have to lay off most of the staff right a way.
    They will need to brainstorm on ideas to save money were ever they can.
    They need more money and pay people what they are due. Plus keep the budget up.
    Finally they are going to need new management. Someone who has experience in the private sector and knows how to get the most out of his investment.
    But these are things that any good businessmen would know.
    Why the hell are these things not happening?
    Important note. Never hire a government manager to run a private business.

  • @chaosopher23
    @chaosopher23 3 місяці тому

    What would it take to put ISS into a much higher orbit, so it can be turned into a place where robots can collect defunct satellites or space junk? That much aluminum coming down all at once is some nasty pollution.

  • @philochristos
    @philochristos 3 місяці тому

    I'd be mad if I had nothing to do, and they wouldn't even pay me for it.

  • @philipking8497
    @philipking8497 3 місяці тому

    We must keep Axiom alive. We must.

  • @ThouSirKingsly
    @ThouSirKingsly 3 місяці тому +2

    Haven will replace the iss probably. Pls make a vid on them

  • @jormungandrtheworldserpent8382
    @jormungandrtheworldserpent8382 3 місяці тому

    this video was tough to watch i was really looking forward to the new wave of private stations but if this is anything to go by im going to have to drastically reduce my expectations

  • @BestHakase
    @BestHakase 3 місяці тому

    I'm sad that the next generation of space stations will be fragmented, instead of several countries working on one big project.

    • @denysvlasenko1865
      @denysvlasenko1865 3 місяці тому

      Yes, lets consolidate everything into one big project so that if *that* fails, we are 100% screwed!

  • @JeanGunnhildr88
    @JeanGunnhildr88 3 місяці тому

    NASA better be quick building their own space station while US still can printing money. Do not wait...