You mention V3 is easy integration. It seems that V3 is not so easy to implement as V2. To perform well you need to define "actions" that humans should do on your site. And then you need to evaluate on your own the form submission as the score is returned by V3. Simply installing V3 does not seem to stop ANY spam in fact. They should not have called it Recaptcha as it is a completely separate universe.
@@Victor-Duse but then you need to define user ACTIONS for your website etc. And then set the acceptance on your forms. Will you do a video on that? Thanks. :)
@@thierry.lavallee I've abandoned Google reCAPTCHA (for the reasons stated in the video) so I'll probably not do any new tutorials about it before they fix these issues. But I've heard lots of good things about Cloudflare Turnstile as an alternative to CAPTCHA. Have you tried it? From my understanding, it's completely free. blog.cloudflare.com/turnstile-private-captcha-alternative/
My experience of rC v3 is 90% of the time I still get a bunch of "click on all the boxes with X" which IMHO is culture insensitive... "crosswalk?" I don't have those but thankfully I know they mean "pedestrian crossing"... "fire hydrant?" same deal... Also a lot of the pictures are so grainy it is hard to process... It flat out fails in one browser I use thus blocking my access totally.... I have been known to abort purchases on sites because part way through suddenly rC pops up... I applaud anyone that removes rC from anything...
Google reCaptcha is not added by WordPress by default, but some themes and plugins (for example contact form plugins and security plugins) might add it when you install them. So the process of removing it is a bit different, depending on the source. Complianz is a cookie consent plugin. If you have visitors from the EU, you need to have some kind of solution that tells the visitors about how you use cookies and gives them the option to opt out (there are similar laws in other countries too). I use this plugin: www.cookieyes.com/welcome/?ref=victorduse
I came across this video because of the title. It was a good insight of captcha's world. I thought, maybe you mention also hCaptcha, but no. Do you know hCaptcha? Maybe make a video of that antispam-tool? I find it hard to install
Hi Jeff! CleanTalk works with a long list of platforms and supports custom integrations. It's not free but you can find some discounts here: divimundo.com/en/cleantalk-spam-protection-discounts/ A free option is Cloudflare Turnstile. I haven't tried it out myself yet but it looks promising; www.cloudflare.com/products/turnstile/
Your browser will normally cache all that stuff so you need to 1) test that on the second request to a site and 2) do it yourself with the chrome debugger tools. That site you mentioned is likely only measuring uncached performance.
Hello There, I'm struggling with the spam I'm getting through my Divi contact forms on a couple of my sites. I've set up the basic recaptcha but people are getting around that. They are actually in and 'choosing a service' and I am guessing filling out the calculations from the basic. They are sending full-blown messages. So, I was tryng to add V3 and I tried V2 and neither seem to be working on my Divi sites. The honey one you mentioned first, that is free... do you think it's good enough? Will it at least do better than the basic (addition) question? Thank you... trying not to pull out all my hair. Jen
Hi Jen! The free version of WP Armour (honeypot) will rescue at least 95% of your hair. 🙂 Try it out for a few weeks and evaluate. If you want two-step protection (more or less 100% bullet proof), you can try the pro version.
@@nikkizeober9875 Sutre you can but that’s wearing two helmets. I would recommend that you choose one. Here’s a comparison: cleantalk.org/help/cleantalk-vs-recaptcha
@@Victor-Duse Here is the email I got from them, it's all versions, it seems. Starting April 1, 2024, we will be expanding existing features and providing additional pricing options for Google reCAPTCHA product tiers. What do you need to know? Starting April 1, 2024, the following price changes will be available with Google reCAPTCHA: Inclusion of transaction protection in reCAPTCHA Enterprise and a price reduction from $40 to $1 per 1,000 assessments. reCAPTCHA Enterprise will also include 10,000 no-cost assessments per month instead of 1 million. Addition of reCAPTCHA Standard for bot protection at $8/month for up to 100,000 assessments per month. Renaming of the reCAPTCHA no-cost product to reCAPTCHA Lite, providing protection for up to 10,000 instead of 1 million assessments per month.
@@king0vdarkness Ich zitiere einmal die Überschrift: "Warum ich Google reCAPTCHA v3 entfernt habe (+ 3 alternative Spamschutzdienste für WordPress)" Die ist in Deutsch! Entweder oder !!!
@@Victor-Duse Ein echter Oberschlauer !!!!!! Zum Glück kaufe ich meine Software und Plugins ohne Affiliate und muss solche Typen wie dich nicht mitfinanzieren!
You mention V3 is easy integration. It seems that V3 is not so easy to implement as V2. To perform well you need to define "actions" that humans should do on your site. And then you need to evaluate on your own the form submission as the score is returned by V3. Simply installing V3 does not seem to stop ANY spam in fact. They should not have called it Recaptcha as it is a completely separate universe.
I've seen pretty remarkable drops in spam on a dozen sites after activating V3 and setting a score of 0.7-0.8, but I guess every site is different.
@@Victor-Duse but then you need to define user ACTIONS for your website etc. And then set the acceptance on your forms. Will you do a video on that? Thanks. :)
@@thierry.lavallee I've abandoned Google reCAPTCHA (for the reasons stated in the video) so I'll probably not do any new tutorials about it before they fix these issues. But I've heard lots of good things about Cloudflare Turnstile as an alternative to CAPTCHA. Have you tried it? From my understanding, it's completely free.
blog.cloudflare.com/turnstile-private-captcha-alternative/
My experience of rC v3 is 90% of the time I still get a bunch of "click on all the boxes with X" which IMHO is culture insensitive... "crosswalk?" I don't have those but thankfully I know they mean "pedestrian crossing"... "fire hydrant?" same deal... Also a lot of the pictures are so grainy it is hard to process... It flat out fails in one browser I use thus blocking my access totally.... I have been known to abort purchases on sites because part way through suddenly rC pops up... I applaud anyone that removes rC from anything...
Thanks for the good info. I am guessing removal is easy? Also..is that new plugin mandatory...complianz? I am in the US.
Google reCaptcha is not added by WordPress by default, but some themes and plugins (for example contact form plugins and security plugins) might add it when you install them. So the process of removing it is a bit different, depending on the source.
Complianz is a cookie consent plugin. If you have visitors from the EU, you need to have some kind of solution that tells the visitors about how you use cookies and gives them the option to opt out (there are similar laws in other countries too). I use this plugin: www.cookieyes.com/welcome/?ref=victorduse
I came across this video because of the title. It was a good insight of captcha's world. I thought, maybe you mention also hCaptcha, but no. Do you know hCaptcha? Maybe make a video of that antispam-tool? I find it hard to install
I swapped to hCaptcha and my spam rocketed so, not a good alternative, it seems. Obviously crackers can hack it.
Thanks for the info. I wasn’t aware of the GDPR issue.
Are you aware of any decent non-Wordpress captcha alternatives?
Hi Jeff! CleanTalk works with a long list of platforms and supports custom integrations. It's not free but you can find some discounts here: divimundo.com/en/cleantalk-spam-protection-discounts/
A free option is Cloudflare Turnstile. I haven't tried it out myself yet but it looks promising; www.cloudflare.com/products/turnstile/
@@Victor-Duse - Awesome. Thank you!
Your browser will normally cache all that stuff so you need to 1) test that on the second request to a site and 2) do it yourself with the chrome debugger tools. That site you mentioned is likely only measuring uncached performance.
Thanks for the heads up! I'll check it out.
Hello There,
I'm struggling with the spam I'm getting through my Divi contact forms on a couple of my sites. I've set up the basic recaptcha but people are getting around that.
They are actually in and 'choosing a service' and I am guessing filling out the calculations from the basic. They are sending full-blown messages. So, I was tryng to add V3 and I tried V2 and neither seem to be working on my Divi sites.
The honey one you mentioned first, that is free... do you think it's good enough? Will it at least do better than the basic (addition) question?
Thank you... trying not to pull out all my hair.
Jen
Hi Jen! The free version of WP Armour (honeypot) will rescue at least 95% of your hair. 🙂 Try it out for a few weeks and evaluate. If you want two-step protection (more or less 100% bullet proof), you can try the pro version.
@@Victor-Duse Hey there! I was curious if you know whether I could use both CleanTalk fire wall and reCAPTCHA
@@nikkizeober9875 Sutre you can but that’s wearing two helmets. I would recommend that you choose one. Here’s a comparison: cleantalk.org/help/cleantalk-vs-recaptcha
From April, 2024 they inform me that I will have to start paying for this. Can you decypher the fees for us?
Do you mean paying for Google reCAPTCHA v3?
@@Victor-Duse Here is the email I got from them, it's all versions, it seems. Starting April 1, 2024, we will be expanding existing features and providing additional pricing options for Google reCAPTCHA product tiers.
What do you need to know?
Starting April 1, 2024, the following price changes will be available with Google reCAPTCHA:
Inclusion of transaction protection in reCAPTCHA Enterprise and a price reduction from $40 to $1 per 1,000 assessments. reCAPTCHA Enterprise will also include 10,000 no-cost assessments per month instead of 1 million.
Addition of reCAPTCHA Standard for bot protection at $8/month for up to 100,000 assessments per month.
Renaming of the reCAPTCHA no-cost product to reCAPTCHA Lite, providing protection for up to 10,000 instead of 1 million assessments per month.
You can also add a Simple Math Captcha field for your forms =D
Yes, I’m showing that in the end of the video
@@Victor-Duse I meant doing it by code - if you use CF7 for example.
I am happy to leave Google Recapture. Because I don't trust any Google products.
What type of spam protection would be your choice?
in Deutsch bitte!
Warum? Sprechen sie nicht Englisch?
Entschuldigung, mein Highschool-Deutsch ist zu schlecht. 🙂
@@Victor-Duse danke, ich lerne deutsch. Mein Deutsch ist nicht gut! Dein Englisch ist super!
@@king0vdarkness Ich zitiere einmal die Überschrift:
"Warum ich Google reCAPTCHA v3 entfernt habe (+ 3 alternative Spamschutzdienste für WordPress)"
Die ist in Deutsch!
Entweder oder !!!
@@Victor-Duse Ein echter Oberschlauer !!!!!! Zum Glück kaufe ich meine Software und Plugins ohne Affiliate und muss solche Typen wie dich nicht mitfinanzieren!