Chinese diesel heater which fuel is best? diesel vs kerosene test with fuel consumption 1l per ??

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  • chinese diesel heater what is the best fuel to use?
    how many hours will it run on 1L of fuel ?
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  • @goonluv
    @goonluv Рік тому +15

    Bought a heater £1.30 a litre. Greedy government. But they need extra taxes to keep the illegals nice and warm in our hotels

  • @PJvaleting
    @PJvaleting Рік тому +15

    Watching 2022 and wishing the those fuel prices 🤣. Nice upload

    • @guidelineuk4876
      @guidelineuk4876 Рік тому +1

      Watching in 2023 you ain't seen nothing yet...stay warm

  • @General_Confusion
    @General_Confusion Рік тому +34

    Hi. The explanation for it using more kerosene than diesel is the core temperature. The core temperature on these heaters is about 210 Degrees C. What i mean by that, is whatever heat setting you set the heater to, the core temp will always be about 210 Degrees. This is regulated by the fan speed and the pump pulse rate. The heater core does not run cooler if you turn it down, all that happens is the air flow is less. It needs about 210 degrees for combustion. Therefore, Kerosene was burning slightly cooler than Diesel so it needed to burn slightly more of it to maintain the core at 210 Degrees. You should be able to set your controls to show the core temp by pressing the settings button a few times, you will then see that even if you turn the heater right down the core temp should stay the same at 210 degrees. Only the pump rate and fan speed will change.

    • @APatchworkCanvas
      @APatchworkCanvas Рік тому +5

      I have two of these and they both change the core temp for h1-h6 settings and also if you put it on alpine mode it will burn 30 degrees cooler.

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner Рік тому

      @@APatchworkCanvas Not really surprising? You are chasing through the same volume of air but firing with (20%?) less fuel. So a lot more hot gases going out of the exhaust - not a particularly efficient way to burn a fuel.🙂

    • @APatchworkCanvas
      @APatchworkCanvas Рік тому

      @@oliver90owner I run mine wide open. I was just saying the op is wrong that the core temp does not change on these units.

    • @markpennella
      @markpennella Рік тому

      Excellent explanation. So what fuel do you use?

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner Рік тому

      @@markpennella These heaters are basically ‘parking heaters’ for automobile installation (for cab heating). The are (or should be) set up to burn diesel at peak efficiency (minimum CO with minimum excess combustion air). Most vehicles where the driver sleeps overnight in the cab, or where the vehicle is for other commercial use, are diesel fuelled. These heaters can be plumbed into the vehicle fuel line or diesel tank - hence why/how they are set up to burn diesel.
      The earlier/better/more expensive controllers are able to be re-programmed to burn kerosene more efficiently (left for burning diesel efficiently, there will be too much excess combustion air - thus losing efficiency by losing more heat via the exhaust for instance - but the newer, cheaper(?) controllers are not (easily) reprogrammed, if at all. Burning kerosene in these examples will mean running with more excess combustion air, which cools the flame temperature (resulting in a lower ‘core’ temperature and exhausting more heat through the exhaust. So a cleaner burn but with lower efficiency (less useful heat produced). A few degrees change in ‘core’ temperature is neither here nor there for the ‘ occasional’ user but would/could be more important to the serious operators that demand maximum efficiency. This is obvious from the reports, from many of the users, who simply say it is a cleaner burn. They are uninformed users.

  • @SaltGrains_Fready
    @SaltGrains_Fready Рік тому +4

    This is exactly what we are trying to find out.
    Non of the other vids on this talk about running it on kerosene.
    Kerosene will make more heat and the unit and glow plug and combustion chamber will run cleaner.
    Large space heaters run on kero and work yr after yr with no trouble.

    • @oojimmyflip
      @oojimmyflip Рік тому

      watch this guy hes having sucess on kerosene: ua-cam.com/video/QMnBq_DDpWY/v-deo.html

  • @clivehaynes2183
    @clivehaynes2183 3 роки тому +6

    The pump works on back pressure not timed pulses this allows for turning the heat down from 6 to 1 setting which would burn less fuel for the run time. Heating oil is slightly thinner than diesel fuel and has a lower calorific value than that of diesel. I purchased 1500 litres of heating oil last summer at 23 pence per litre, current price is about 30 pence. Good info.

  • @alphainfinitum3445
    @alphainfinitum3445 3 роки тому +11

    The energy density of diesel is greater than that of kerosene. So in a system that regulates the fuel intake, based on say a constant energy output, you should burn more kerosene to get the same amount of energy.

    • @BS-ql5nl
      @BS-ql5nl 2 роки тому

      Yes that's why my home central heating boiler is a kerosene boiler and it doesn't burn diesel 🛢 it would cost me four times the price we use the cheapest form of fuel ⛽

    • @markpennella
      @markpennella Рік тому

      I'm guess the corporations already have the caloric values figured and all are priced based on their caloric value??

    • @oojimmyflip
      @oojimmyflip Рік тому +1

      @@BS-ql5nl how does this work if the pump is set up to pump the same amount of fuel no matter what fuel you put in it? doesnt it depend upon pump size and pump flow?

    • @BS-ql5nl
      @BS-ql5nl Рік тому

      If any oil such as waste engine oil or brake fluid is burned how do we know which burns hoter the answer is the one that is cheapest because it is free or cheaper to burn than diesel and having tried these fuels diesel is the most expensive and kero at half or lower burns clean and hot.

  • @wesleyscott2169
    @wesleyscott2169 2 роки тому +2

    from Kentucky USA nice video

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  2 роки тому

      Would love to visit America one day 🇺🇸

  • @bravo20ghost27
    @bravo20ghost27 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the video.
    I would recommend using Class 2 kerosene as the higher sulfur contents acts as a lubricant or class1 in a 50/50 mix with diesel as recommend by wobasto for winter uses

    • @1miltond
      @1miltond 3 роки тому +1

      Kerosene is to expensive in the us I don't know were you live but for me diesel work great I only keep the heater temperature to about 65 degree frequency of 2

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  3 роки тому +1

      We are in the uk and diesel isn't cheap unfortunately 😕

    • @mannyfragoza9652
      @mannyfragoza9652 2 роки тому +1

      makes sense the 50/50

    • @oojimmyflip
      @oojimmyflip Рік тому

      @@CARTALKUK Kero is cheaper though £1.00 per litre currently

  • @gbkiller007
    @gbkiller007 8 місяців тому

    Remember if you use Kerosene over diesel to add a little oil (or do an 80/20 kerosene/diesel mix. It lubricates the pump and caps your burner temp as kerosene has a hotter core heat. The thinner the viscosity, the easier it passes through the nozzle so runs hotter. Mixing it with oil or diesel will keep that in check. Heater will run fine on Kerosene. I have household heating oil (kerosene)for my boiler and I just rob it from the big tank and add a little 2 stroke lawnmower oil (90/10). If mixing with diesel do 80/20. Still works out a lot cheaper and you will prolong the life of your burner and nozzle/pump

  • @Marks-Garage
    @Marks-Garage 3 роки тому +3

    I put 10 litres of tesco diesel through my heater and it ran very very rough towards the end of the 10 litres. Very smokey on start up and would go out as fan ramped up. Just got 40 litres of kerosene and it burns so much better than the diesel. No smoke and smell has reduced

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  3 роки тому +8

      It's a much clearer fuel ... I drove from Chesterfield to St Ives Cornwall on BP I filled up in St Ives with tesco and I was in limp mode all the way home tesco is sh!t fuel

    • @raykeogh1972
      @raykeogh1972 2 роки тому

      @@CARTALKUK so true. I use shell for when I go to Scotland if I used Tesco I would be flat out at Max 14mph. This is not a guess. I actually did this 4 years ago never would I buy any big food store fuel I have been use shell since that happened to me in my 6 berth MotorHome.

  • @morganthomas1550
    @morganthomas1550 2 роки тому +2

    Great experiment and video, thanks 👌

  • @1miltond
    @1miltond 3 роки тому +1

    Here in the US off rd diesel is the red one have no tax is cheaper kerosene will burn faster because flame rate is higher and the price here is also hig and yes 3 hr liter is all you get but is about the same is propane and is safer I get 67 hr constantly running with 5 gallons of Diesel I have the 5 kw heater we like it

  • @JackButlerVideos
    @JackButlerVideos 3 роки тому +4

    The fuel use will be the same as each injection of that fuel pump is 0.022ml. The heat out might be different though

    • @ericdee6802
      @ericdee6802 3 роки тому +1

      Kerosene doesn't burn as hot as diesel, your right, there is a difference in BTU's

    • @ericdee6802
      @ericdee6802 3 роки тому

      Kerosene doesn't burn as hot as diesel, your right, there is a difference in BTU's

  • @checker3694
    @checker3694 Рік тому +2

    Diesel is 15% more expensive, consumption of Kerosene is 5% greater overall saving on Kerosene is 10%, not taking in account it runs 5c hotter, so you could run Kerosene on a lower settings, I think that makes sense or am I wrong

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  Рік тому

      It's definitely a cleaner fuel aswell

  • @robertedwards87
    @robertedwards87 Рік тому +2

    ive just being looking for some kerosene and the cheapest i could find was £38. for 20L or £35.60 for 20L diesel from the pump :(

  • @RGD-Audio-Repairs
    @RGD-Audio-Repairs 11 місяців тому +1

    Where does everyone find Kerosene so cheap?!?!!
    I live in the fens, In cambridgeshire... and its basically £2 per litre!!!!
    Its literally cheaper to buy diesel at the pump. 😂

  • @wishfix
    @wishfix 2 роки тому +2

    Set the heater to the lowest setting 0.8mg.
    I run my heater all night when it's cold, loads of heat and costs around £1 per night 😁

  • @itsallfabrication
    @itsallfabrication 2 роки тому +1

    Very informative, thanks for sharing.

  • @jeffwatts4264
    @jeffwatts4264 3 роки тому +3

    Because the kerosene is a thinner oil it moves through the pump and burner nozzle more easily and so you will use more in the time, probably why you have more heat too as there's more volume of oil being burned at any one time , just my opinion

    • @brumarly
      @brumarly 2 роки тому

      Kero has a longer burn time, it's measured in seconds, off the top of head diesel is 28s and kero is 34s

    • @jostouw4366
      @jostouw4366 Рік тому +1

      The oil gets dribbled over the heater mesh not sprayed.

    • @yodab.at1746
      @yodab.at1746 Рік тому

      @@jostouw4366you're right..... so much misinformation around the comments section!

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner Рік тому

      @@brumarly Wrong. Kerosene (central heating oil in the UK) has a viscosity of 28s Redwood.

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner Рік тому +1

      Sorry, but your opinion is misleading to others similarly not ‘in the know’ about these heaters. The pump passes a fixed volume per stroke, so approx the same amount of either, pumped in over a period of time like this. Actually there is less heat available from kero than diesel. The ‘nozzle‘ is basically an open ended pipe. Jos Touw and Yoda B do know about these heaters, so follow their comments.😊

  • @jasonhale4639
    @jasonhale4639 3 роки тому +1

    I use untaxed red diesel for farm vehicles here in the US. I buy in town at the local AGO gas station and it is going for about $2.20 to $2.50 a gallon as of January 19 2020. It's what I have been using in my chinese diesel heater. It has been running flawlessly this winter so far. I cleaned the heater last summer after running it all last winter also. In the US diesel is cheaper than K1 Kerosene. I think kerosene is going for I believe about $4 a gallon or so definitely not cheaper than untaxed diesel.

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  3 роки тому +3

      In the uk where I am its cheaper than red diesel

    • @charlesbernard3042
      @charlesbernard3042 9 місяців тому

      Just bought one and wanted to know if there are any long-term problems with colored dyed red diesel fuel, especially running dirtier for the glow plug? Any problems? Thanks

  • @JustBadMeAndI
    @JustBadMeAndI 3 дні тому

    A bit unscientific it seems.
    Putting the thing on a scale would be better than marking it with a fat line.
    Kerosine runs cleaner, less dangerous than diesel, so, I am going to use kerosine.

  • @guidelineuk4876
    @guidelineuk4876 Рік тому

    You should mix them together:-) thanks for the upload

  • @theghost1920
    @theghost1920 3 роки тому +2

    Diesel round my way is £1.40 😭 anyway brilliant video 👍

    • @evelbsstudio
      @evelbsstudio 2 роки тому

      Ueah it's bloody expensive, even with crude oil been at a very low price for the past couple of years.
      Personally I think that they are milking it while they can, until the country goes all electric, then watch the prices climb

    • @Pablosplace
      @Pablosplace Рік тому

      A year later and we're at £1.76 at my local garage.

  • @martinpanks992
    @martinpanks992 9 місяців тому

    Which ever is cheaper will be the better choice as there isn't much difference in BTU/litre (Energy per litre) and you won't notice the small difference, you will need a more accurate testing method to notice it altho kerosene is supposed to burn hotter..
    The difference will be so small you won't even notice the difference..

  • @wideboatbluebell3021
    @wideboatbluebell3021 2 роки тому +1

    Why did you connect the two hoses on the kerosene part off the test?

  • @nkgudih
    @nkgudih 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting. How about using both the exhaust and ht air to warm water instead of an electric geyser or alt least use as a pre-heater for water going into an electric geyser. This will be about 1 hour running(500ml), which can amount to 15 litres a month which can be offset against running the geyser full (i.e. warming water from as low as 3 degrees to 65 degrees max. Just thinking and would like your thinking on this

  • @Irideonandon
    @Irideonandon 3 роки тому +4

    I watched another video testing the two fuels. His experience was you have to use lower grade kerosene or your heater fuel pump dies in a few days. The diesel and low grade kerosene lubricates the fuel piston. High grade Kerosene like you use in a lantern will destroy the fuel pump after a few days because of no lube. These are not diesel heaters, they are more oil heaters.

    • @3dmixer552
      @3dmixer552 3 роки тому +3

      i've been using my diesel heater on kerosene for years and never had any problem with the pump. kerosene also burns cleaner and you don't have to clean the heater very often.

    • @Irideonandon
      @Irideonandon 3 роки тому

      @@3dmixer552 what grade kerosene do you use? I personally haven't used it. Dont know much except there are two grades. I have only used diesel. Do you use it because it is cleaner? I am just trying to learn. Most people don't know you can burn both. I didn't until recently.

    • @3dmixer552
      @3dmixer552 3 роки тому +2

      @@Irideonandon it's also called 28 sec oil. The red diesel is 35 sec

    • @3dmixer552
      @3dmixer552 3 роки тому +3

      @@Irideonandon I uset because it's cleaner and nearly third price of the normal diesel

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  2 роки тому +6

      I saw this comment and left it a year ... and after a year it still works perfectly fine

  • @neilfoster814
    @neilfoster814 Рік тому

    I wish you could still get Red Diesel here in the UK.

  • @PainterD54
    @PainterD54 8 місяців тому

    Kerosene will not lubricate the pump so you're pump may burn out prematuely is all. If kerosene is cheaper and works for you than by all means go ahead and burn it or maybe mix it half and half with diesel so your pump will be lubed a bit?

    • @MHLivestreams
      @MHLivestreams 6 місяців тому

      I would use kero for startup and shutdown, and filtered, used veg oil as main fuel.

  • @gordonmitchell729
    @gordonmitchell729 Рік тому +1

    That was worth doing and answers my question about fuel usage. I was wondering about the viscosity of each fuel? Still, I would be happy to use either one now thank you. There is one question if you don’t mind. If I buy one of those units and use it during the winter months, should I service or strip it down each summer? 6 months use and 6 months switched off? Good video for sure!

    • @natebell5026
      @natebell5026 Рік тому +2

      You really don’t need to do much for summer storage. My Webasto unit does say to run once a month for 10 minutes or so during the summers months, but I think that’s more to keep fresh fuel in the lines and blow out any dust or dirt buildup on the fan. If you drain all the fuel out, I’d imagine it would be fine to store it for the summer

    • @gordonmitchell729
      @gordonmitchell729 Рік тому +1

      @@natebell5026 That's great thank you Nate. I was talking to my wife about these heaters and she asked me if we could use Linseed oil in the heater as I had quite a lot of it in the shed. I did ask another UA-camr if it was worth trying and he said that he thought it might be similar to vegie oil. I wonder if you have seen this at all? Thank you for responding Nate.

    • @avenger2.099
      @avenger2.099 Рік тому +1

      @@gordonmitchell729 look up a UA-cam video on how to make biodiesel you may be able to use that seed well as the vegetable oil ingredient you never know

    • @gordonmitchell729
      @gordonmitchell729 Рік тому

      @@avenger2.099 will do thank you. There are some scary outcomes with some of the heaters that the guys are burning different oils on. I'm learning a lot and enjoying it lol.

    • @oojimmyflip
      @oojimmyflip Рік тому +1

      @@gordonmitchell729 I wouldnt put linseed oil in a diesel heater, Ive seen the damage it did to a motorbike once it gummed everything up. that stuff is for treating knots in wood not for fuel.

  • @blackIce504
    @blackIce504 3 місяці тому

    meanwhile in australia kerosene is expensive actually everything is expensive especially if its against the soymilk greens.

  • @watahyahknow
    @watahyahknow Рік тому

    at current prices at this moment in the netherlands
    petroleum is € 2.159 per liter so would be 0.71 euro cent per hour
    diesel is € 1.978 per liter so would be 0.65 euro cent per hour
    natural gas is € 3,140 per m3 average use 3,39 m3 gas per day is 0.48 euro cent per hour average (for heating the whole house)
    this includes the price for having gas delivered to the house (the hookup) €275 per year 0.04 cents per hour
    running the clean type petroleum meant for the radiating heat stoves with one litre every 3 hours with the current price for a 20 litre yerrycan at the local diy store would come down to 1.10 euro an hour
    depending on how often you need to heat up the house a year and if youre cooking and using a gasboiler to heat water gas is still the cheapest fuel to heat

  • @Langrigg
    @Langrigg 3 роки тому +1

    If you can buy 500lt (I put mine in 3 45gallon drums) you get it delivered via tanker.
    "Boiler Juice" can deliver that at 33p/lt plus VAT, vat is at 5%.
    Cheap as chips.

    • @Langrigg
      @Langrigg 3 роки тому

      PS.....
      You can put kerosene in with deisel in tractors during the winter to stop it freezing, but always at much smaller percentages. Otherwise they can get too hot, also kerosene doesn't have the same lubrication qualities and can seize pumps.
      Much safer to use deisel in the long run.

    • @BS-ql5nl
      @BS-ql5nl 3 роки тому

      The pump in my heater has never give any trouble burning kerosene in the last lot of years so always thought if it did pack in I'd get one for a tenner on ebay so far so good and if you get your bulk kero delivered get a cube caged 1000 ltr tank they're cheap second hand.But kerosene is the way to go with these heaters at home or workshop just overhaul the carbon brushes and the crappy Chinese bearings in fan motor thats another story

    • @BS-ql5nl
      @BS-ql5nl 3 роки тому +1

      Can anyone actually say their pump has packed in using kerosene my oil fired central heating boiler burns same oil and the pump in it lubricates runs ok so all this scare mongers tell me they're wong kero is oil parifin oil

    • @Langrigg
      @Langrigg 3 роки тому

      Fair point with regard to the magnetic pump, but its definitely true with fuel pumps on tractors with roller pumps.
      My main concern was the hotter burn and heater lifespan, if red deisel is cheap and the heater was built for it, that's all I meant.

    • @BS-ql5nl
      @BS-ql5nl 3 роки тому

      Yes again if you look at the make up of these heaters you'll see a heat sensor on the hottest part of the casting that tells if overheating is happening so puts a fault code up and shuts down heater and can happen if fan is faulty not spinning at correct speed to fuel input so they really can't burn hot on kero or diesel think about that.

  • @georgeh5031
    @georgeh5031 Рік тому

    Hi,
    Where did you buy your heater?
    My heater it looks absolutely the same,but spend much more diesel...
    Thank you

  • @fradaja
    @fradaja 2 роки тому +1

    The viscosity is different , maybe that affected the pump frequency?

    • @theartofwanderlust
      @theartofwanderlust 2 роки тому

      I live in northern Canada, I uses a 1:1 ratio of kerosene and diesel in the winter, as the diesel will start to gel at -40. Propane does the same thing.

  • @3dmixer552
    @3dmixer552 3 роки тому +3

    It can't use more Kerosene than diesel. every pulse is 0.022ml/s so if it was runnig at the same pulse rate it should be the same

    • @anoldun8694
      @anoldun8694 3 роки тому +3

      if he ran it for another 15 mins you wouldn't even see the difference in height level The only way to do it that way is a pint of fuel until it runs out ...period

    • @JohnSmith-fe7nf
      @JohnSmith-fe7nf 3 роки тому +1

      I agree with you. Marking the tank is not very accurate.

    • @jostouw4366
      @jostouw4366 Рік тому

      @@JohnSmith-fe7nf He's not a scientist!

  • @kenh3344
    @kenh3344 Рік тому

    Just my opinion kerosene is lighter fuel burns faster and hotter.? As it thinner than diesel. Hence burns more quickly.?

  • @crazycrab8578
    @crazycrab8578 2 роки тому

    have a go with jet fuel, it is cheaper, used it in a kerro 8 wick stove, it gets a bit hot , but works

  • @thetrispyone7812
    @thetrispyone7812 Рік тому

    As of right now kerosene at my Walmart for 1 quart is 6$ so basically 24$ a gallon and diesel is 5.50 a gallon

  • @lodwill4007
    @lodwill4007 Рік тому +1

    It runs best. On diesel. And 1 gallon a day. And you want to save 33 more cents by working harder. Just use the thing and be happy. Lol. My cousin would drive across town to save 13 cents a gallon. But only get. 13 gallons. Lol. Time money . Energy. It’s the economy stupid. Lolz

  • @mplewp
    @mplewp Місяць тому +1

    Love the test , but dont use this to heat your house . Wood is much safer . :P

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  Місяць тому

      It's just for the garage ... we use gas and electricity for the house 🏠

  • @Kmac-hd6vp
    @Kmac-hd6vp 3 роки тому +1

    Currently using kerosene in a 5kw Chinese diesel heater for about 20 hours and no problems. Going to go back to red diesel just in case. When you take into account the usage and the actual savings it's worth changing back for peace of mind not having the hassle of it dying in the cold and having to replace the fuel pump. Imho.

    • @snapdragogon69
      @snapdragogon69 3 роки тому +2

      User kero with a little 2 stroke oil to grease the pump.

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  3 роки тому +1

      All the time I have used it and I working fine with no oil

    • @evelbsstudio
      @evelbsstudio 2 роки тому

      Some people have used kero for years in a chineese diesel heater with no problems, it all comes down to the cost ppl for me as it can get bloody expensive..

    • @Kmac-hd6vp
      @Kmac-hd6vp 2 роки тому

      @@evelbsstudio good to know thanks 😊

    • @SaltGrains_Fready
      @SaltGrains_Fready Рік тому

      right now in US kero is 4.50/gal lowest and diesl is 5.80/gal in most places.

  • @travismoore7849
    @travismoore7849 Рік тому

    Kerosene is a thinner fuel so maybe it was able to pump more fuel because of that. And you need a smaller nozzle or a lower cc rate for the same time and heat?

    • @MHLivestreams
      @MHLivestreams 6 місяців тому +1

      I believe viscosity of fuel is definitely responsible alone. Add engine oil, less burn, add petrol, more burn.

  • @madguernseyboy
    @madguernseyboy 11 місяців тому

    Where do you buy Kerosene from?

  • @jjcale1976
    @jjcale1976 Рік тому

    Where can I buy red diesel to power my diesel heater?

  • @RollingThunder85
    @RollingThunder85 2 роки тому

    Kerosene is thinner I think so the pump could pump it faster the amp use rate would be good info to know

  • @HostileHST
    @HostileHST 2 роки тому

    You guys are lucky, I"m in the US and just got 2 gallons of 1-K and cost us $24, not sure what that translates to, but sure seems the US is tearing holes into our wallets for Kerosene since 2 gallons of Diesel here is about $7-8 US. Reason I got the kerosene is for a cleaning agent, heater been fluttering alot lately and experimenting to see if the Kerosene will help fix the problem.

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  2 роки тому

      I don't want to bring politics in to this channel but I have been seeing you guys have higher fuel bills

    • @PUBHEAD1
      @PUBHEAD1 Рік тому

      Same in Canada, Kerosene is approximately twice the price of diesel. Kero is about $3.50/ltr compared to $1.60/ltr for diesel.

    • @oojimmyflip
      @oojimmyflip Рік тому

      @@CARTALKUK yep but they still get cheaper diesel than we do and still complain about it.😂 we pay £6.93 for a gallon our gallons are 4.5 litres they would be paying $8.81 dollars a gallon but they get less because they dont use imperial gallons, I think its about 3.785 litres a gallon in the US.

  • @johnhoward563
    @johnhoward563 2 роки тому

    Where would you buy kerosene ?

  • @zetamale
    @zetamale Рік тому

    down south, red diesel near me is currently £1.60 :(

  • @supremeautomotive6749
    @supremeautomotive6749 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah in America we have red diesel they make it off road use only

    • @petecoventry6858
      @petecoventry6858 3 роки тому

      Same for the UK which is why if you put it in your car it gets crushed if caught

  • @Giantcatcher
    @Giantcatcher Рік тому

    If you use kero should you use a lube additive? 200ml treats 5000 litres at £15 for the 200ml. Peanuts cost.

    • @MHLivestreams
      @MHLivestreams 6 місяців тому

      The fuel pump is metal on metal which relies on diesel oil as lubricant, so prolonged use could possibly cause wear.

  • @jacobburns9343
    @jacobburns9343 3 роки тому +1

    Currently in the USA midwest, at the fuel station pump, red diesel is about $1.30/gallon (£0.26/litre). Road diesel is about $2/gallon (£0.40/litre). Kerosene is about $3.50/gallon (£0.70/litre).
    Obviously, red diesel is fuel of choice here. Is kerosene still common for heating in the UK?

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  3 роки тому +2

      Its a mix some people find it easy to get diesel some find kerosene easy to get

  • @richardd9867
    @richardd9867 Рік тому

    Hi. Im in Durham and been to a few garages but they will not sell me either red diesel or kerosene for my heater :( Just wondering where you get yours please

    • @Itssteve90
      @Itssteve90 Рік тому

      Go to simspons fuels Copley you can buy it off the pump, red and Kero.

  • @belfasta
    @belfasta 11 місяців тому +1

    Use kerosene with dipetane and it lasts far longer

  • @petecoventry6858
    @petecoventry6858 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah around 500ML per hour :)

  • @BarefootBeekeeper
    @BarefootBeekeeper 2 роки тому

    Kerosene is called paraffin in the UK. It used to be cheap when I had a Saturday job in a garage half a century ago, but I haven't seen it on sale for many years. Where do you buy it?

    • @simonburt3871
      @simonburt3871 Рік тому

      In the UK you Oder it online either eBay or Amazon “ not as cheep as it used to be”

    • @jostouw4366
      @jostouw4366 Рік тому +1

      Paraffin is not Kerosine it burns cleaner!

    • @BarefootBeekeeper
      @BarefootBeekeeper Рік тому

      @@jostouw4366 paraffin is more refined and has a less offensive smell when burned, but otherwise they are very similar.

    • @ChristianBHough
      @ChristianBHough Рік тому +1

      I'm a oil boiler technician, kerosene in the UK is still kerosene. Not the same as paraffin.

  • @Hobby_Electric
    @Hobby_Electric 3 роки тому

    In Germany also cheap "Red" Diesel availabile, but it would be very... VERY expensive if you put it in a Vehicle and get cached from The Police... They also have Chemical test for fuelk, so they can detect fre drops of the cheap stuff in your tank.
    For a Heater it would work fine, but i stiol use Expensive Diesel, Becaus it Is Much cleaner and Better quality, in Winter time is is Prepared to burn even at - 15°C or Lower

    • @oojimmyflip
      @oojimmyflip Рік тому

      if the Rozzers catch you here in the UK you can get your car crushed. have you never filterted it through dryed peat to get the red colour out? one of my neighbours used to years ago. saved him a packet on his campervan hols.

  • @Tomcat71
    @Tomcat71 Рік тому +1

    Straight Kero will kill the pumps that come with these.

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  Рік тому +1

      Mines still working fine 🙂 over a year running

  • @SNAKEPIT359
    @SNAKEPIT359 3 роки тому

    Can you use in these paraffin heaters ?

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  3 роки тому

      Use kerosene in a paraffin heater?

  • @shed.projects5150
    @shed.projects5150 Рік тому

    80p per litre, those were the days. Now £1.40 and rising, happy days.

    • @RGD-Audio-Repairs
      @RGD-Audio-Repairs 11 місяців тому

      Where i live, In the fens.... Kerosene Is £2 per litre!!!!
      Literally cheaper just to get diesel from garage, at £1.56 a litre.. 😂

  • @ericdee6802
    @ericdee6802 3 роки тому

    Here is my question. Would the injector or atomizer in the combustion chamber have anything to do with how these two different fuels burn?. Diesel is Oil as for kerosene is more of a solvent. I've seen these heaters torn apart many times but I havn't seen anyone talk about the fuel atomizers, or if there are different ones that can be installed in these heaters for using different fuels.

    • @SaltGrains_Fready
      @SaltGrains_Fready Рік тому

      That sounds like you can mix the diesel and the kero half and half.

    • @125brat
      @125brat Рік тому

      You might find the heater would work more efficient if it was adjusted to run on kerosene. As supplied, it's set up to use diesel, so the jet and feed pressure will be optimised for the viscosity and calorific value of diesel. It might need a change of jet and adjustment of pump pressure to get it to work optimally on kerosene. Usually, an oil heating engineer will adjust the pressure whilst monitoring the CO in the flue gas to get best efficiency and cleanest burn.

    • @jostouw4366
      @jostouw4366 Рік тому +1

      @@125brat The oil gets dribbled over the heater mesh not sprayed.

    • @125brat
      @125brat Рік тому

      @@jostouw4366 Ok, I didn't think diesel would burn unless it was atomised? That seems a curious way of burning it.

    • @jostouw4366
      @jostouw4366 Рік тому +1

      @@125brat it burns around the glowing mesh preheated by the glow plug fuel is fed to the mesh and mixed with air blown through it the resulting flame keeps the mesh glowing hot and the flame burning a temp sensor regulates the pump rate to prevent flame out.And diesel burns with heat or wick.

  • @ahmelmahay
    @ahmelmahay Рік тому

    karosene is supposed to burn hotter than white diesel according to my mechanic

  • @williamroberts4758
    @williamroberts4758 3 роки тому +1

    Kerosene is a dry burning fuel, that is why they use it in jet engines with additives. Did I say additives.

    • @BS-ql5nl
      @BS-ql5nl 3 роки тому

      It does run my central heating boiler at home and has a pressure pump attached to the fan although it's 25 years old now but parafin oil lubricate s it the same way as my parking heater with no bother for the last 3 years it's the middle of the winter now and runs 24/7.

  • @MrWrecker92
    @MrWrecker92 3 роки тому +1

    Where do you buy kerosene?

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  3 роки тому

      Aztec oil in bolsover as it just down the road from me where are you located as I may be able to point you in the right direction if you need to buy some

    • @AboveGroundLevel.
      @AboveGroundLevel. 2 роки тому

      @@CARTALKUK North London area? Great video. Very informative with the statistics. Diesel now at £1.80 down the road 🤣

  • @ThomasOrdon
    @ThomasOrdon Рік тому

    Viscosity is your reason for more consumption with the kerosene the kerosene the lighter fuel therefore the pump actually pumps more volume per pulse of kerosene than the diesel however this does say something that if you're going to be running it pretty much unload to medium more than high you're better off running kerosene that way you don't have as much filled up in the burn chamber but also if you're going to be running it at the high setting more often I would say run the diesel because at the high sending it might be too high of a temperature for the burn chamber overall long life blah blah blah blah I'm telling you this from experience

  • @elektroni-k2104
    @elektroni-k2104 2 роки тому +1

    Not valid, you must use combustion analyzer to adjust fuel air.

  • @danielkorczakowski9668
    @danielkorczakowski9668 2 роки тому

    Where do you buy red Diesel for it buddy kind regards

    • @wishfix
      @wishfix 2 роки тому +1

      You can buy red online and have it delivered to your house, or plant hire shops.
      Some petrol stations sell it on the pumps up north.

    • @danielkorczakowski9668
      @danielkorczakowski9668 2 роки тому

      @@wishfix can you send me a link for online ones and for pick up I cannot find any please kind regards derby

  • @Diyman43
    @Diyman43 11 місяців тому

    Where is the best place to get kerosene for my diesel heater? Anyone? U.K.

    • @RGD-Audio-Repairs
      @RGD-Audio-Repairs 11 місяців тому

      Im wondering the same thing mate.... Im in cambridgeshire fens.. and its currently £2 per litre for Kerosene!!!!
      Literally cheaper by 50p per litre, to just get normal diesel 😂

  • @garyreed354
    @garyreed354 3 роки тому +1

    So I got to tell you is that an kerosene is a less of a lubricant and eventually the pump will and go

    • @petecoventry6858
      @petecoventry6858 3 роки тому +2

      Yet i've been running mine for 3 years straight on kerosene with no problems.. ?

  • @YorkyPudinz
    @YorkyPudinz 2 роки тому

    Where are getting your kerosene from? I cannot for no love no money find it for less than £1 per litre

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  2 роки тому

      Aztec oil in bolsover or peak oil in Chesterfield also they do run on heating oil aswell

  • @RollingThunder85
    @RollingThunder85 2 роки тому

    Diesel it weighs more per gallon means more stored energy

  • @lookuptv6755
    @lookuptv6755 Рік тому

    So the UK government has just today imposed a minimum buy on kerosene for home heating.
    You now must buy 300 liters minimum on a single purchase.
    So kerosene is now out of the picture for most people.😭

    • @janetjacks3406
      @janetjacks3406 Рік тому

      Wow, that has blown my mind, thanks for the info, that government are bastards.

    • @harvestertwo
      @harvestertwo Рік тому +1

      It’s available by the litre at some farm stores
      Especially around Birmingham

    • @peter7582
      @peter7582 11 місяців тому +1

      There's a texaco by me where there's a pump for kerosene. And it was like £1 a litre last I checked

  • @doyleryehaaa6669
    @doyleryehaaa6669 2 роки тому

    I'm hearing 20ltrs kero +2ltrs veg oil mixed for lube works great, anyone done this????

    • @nigarnold5463
      @nigarnold5463 Рік тому

      I think a lot of people would add engine oil to kerosene although I'm not sure of the rare. Maybe Google it .

  • @johnhoward563
    @johnhoward563 2 роки тому

    I think kerosene should burn hotter

  • @craigr306
    @craigr306 2 роки тому

    1.54 now :( thank god for cherry

  • @BS-ql5nl
    @BS-ql5nl 3 роки тому

    I don't know why your kerosene is so expenive I pay 40 pence at the pump or 300ltr delivered for £90.00 and kerosene is jet fuel and because jets aren't flying at the moment it is very cheap.I have never burned diesel in my heater but I would guess its just the same without the additives and my heater is a few years old and have no soot problems.

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  3 роки тому +1

      Where in the country are you? I'm in bolsover area as the cheapest I have found is 70p

    • @BS-ql5nl
      @BS-ql5nl 3 роки тому

      @@CARTALKUK
      Just look at oil prices in Ireland and I live in north it was as low 25 pence a ltr but gone up slightly and a 1200 ltr tank in the back garden for oil fired central heating and my diesel heater so 20ltrs drum run this for a week £6.00 beat that?

    • @Langrigg
      @Langrigg 3 роки тому

      That's fine then, it's not a competition. Just trying to help and get cheap heat?

    • @Langrigg
      @Langrigg 3 роки тому

      My reply would say that that in the last 12 months is that C2 is super cheap. Just not constant.
      Overall, would you let a first timer bray away using fuel that's not advised?
      I know c1 & c2 are different in refined. One can be used in an oil lamp (in the house), not the other.

    • @Langrigg
      @Langrigg 3 роки тому

      @@CARTALKUK
      Boiler Juice operates nationwide. Minimum 500lt quotes.
      They use local operatives working via them. 205lt drums at the ready and you'll buy very cheap. Heating oil classified as deisel oil is currently 33p + vat (5%). Red deisel.
      Send a private so I can tell you properly

  • @grow4fun654
    @grow4fun654 2 роки тому

    you shoud change the pump if you use kerosine tis is a non lubricaated fuel that makes your normal pump live span not that great

    • @CARTALKUK
      @CARTALKUK  2 роки тому +2

      After a year and it still runs fine I'll take my chances for the sake of £12 on a new pump

    • @grow4fun654
      @grow4fun654 2 роки тому

      @@CARTALKUK alright you do you if it stil runs great

    • @s.a.t419
      @s.a.t419 Рік тому

      Its bullshit people are running straight kerosene for over 2 years no problems

  • @kings656565
    @kings656565 Рік тому

    I find my pump runs faster when using kerosene.