M42 Behind the Image - Pixinsight & Photoshop Workflow
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Here is a long detailed walkthrough of the post-processing steps in PixInsight and Photoshop I used to make my 2018 image of M42 Orion. Some astrophotographers keep their cards close to their chest - I’d like to share everything I do with you guys and girls so we all get better together. Subscribe for more and feel free to ask any questions about processing in the comments! #teamastrophotographer
Part 1 - Dark Frames & Stacking : • Astrophotography : How...
Dylan’s gear in this video
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Audio gear:
Beringher B1 Condensor Mic
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MOTU 828 I/O
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And the astro gear for photos:
Celestron 11" f/2.2 Rowe-Ackermann Schmidt Astrograph Telescope
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AUSTRALIA :
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Celestron CGX Mount
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QHY9 CCD
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Video Gear :
Canon 6D mkII DSLR
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Tokina 16-28mm Lens
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Dylan’s links
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PATREON : / dylanodonnell
WEB : deography.com
FACEBOOK : / dylanodonnell
TWITTER : / erfmufn
INSTAGRAM : / dylan_odonnell_
Intro & Outro Music - "Moving the Ocean (Aerologic Edit)" by Blastculture.
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That intro was amazing. Sounds like a video game advertisement or a movie trailer
Thank you Dylan. This video connected some dots for me. Spend a whole evening writing everything down. You are a big inspiration keep up the good work.
Wonderfully generous of you Dylan, showing us your tips and tricks. I'm pretty sure I can speak for everyone here and say we're very grateful
Ahh thanks for saying so .. and thanks for checking out my chan!
Excellent video Dylan. This is my problem when I see great vids like what your doing in PhotoShop - I keep seeing the new interface and trying to backtrack those steps into my old PhotoShop CS3. The old interface slows me down too much. One of these days I'm going to have to finally get that PhotoShop subscription and step up my game.
Damn that subscription !
The license servers no longer support CS3, however you can call Adobe and they can upgrade you to CS6 that’s still working without the monthly $👏
I've got about 12 pages of notes to modify my workflow. Thanks, Dylan!
Hehe I'm glad it helped! Thanks Rob!
Thanks Dylan. A newbie here... a lot to learn still in PixInsight and Photoshop... Please continue with these workflow videos!
Cheers from Quebec, Canada.
Hi mate! Glad you liked it! Welcome to the hobby.. and the channel :)
Happy New Year Dylan!
This was exactly what I was hoping for. Thank you!
Excellent :)
Thanks for sharing Dylan, I think many of us have much to learn!
My pleasure!
Great help. I like your recent closing "... everything is meaningless, and we are all going to die". One you live by however is find a job you would do for free, then find someone to pay (or give you some toy to review), to do it".
Awesome video dylan. And beautiful picture
I highly recommend Lumenzia. It gives great results in selecting dark or bright areas. You can select the stars almost perfect.
Thanks for the suggestion :)
Happy new year :D
I first saw the Orion nebula with a cheap monocular and kinda saw a grey smudge lol.
Can't wait to see what I get with a (hopefully) 150mm reflector when I buy it probably in the next month or 2.
Woohoo! Yeh visual schmisual ;)
Nice video Dylan. Question or rather a request. Have you considered putting a tutorial playlist together*? Then making a full out guide from beginning of the hobby to "end"? I'm talking telescopes, mounts, in general equipment, set up, programs, program set up, capture, processing. Obviously some things don't change so videos already made covering certain things could be inserted into the playlist rather than creating again from scratch. I've checked out quite a lot of astro channels but from memory non of them have a system (playlist) like this in place. I think it would really make your channel stand out and also help beginners get their foot through the door. Especially since you tend not to overcomplicate things like a lot of channels do, in my opinion.
Good suggestion :) I have something in the pipeline ...
@@DylanODonnell Cool. Look forward to it.
P.S, sorry for the poor spelling.
Good one Dylan! I bit the bullet and got Pixinsight late last year, still getting up to speed but impressed so far.
Oh great Terry! The UI is questionable at best (clearly designed by programmers) but the quality of the algorithms and extensibility really make it useful in the toolkit.
Excellent, Thanks Dylan and Happy New Year.
Thanks Wolf!
very helpful video thanks a lot
The bit with the spanner and the Star Mask was new to me. Always have issues with Star Masks and getting them to look good. Thanks for info....again!
Good to hear!
Thanks for this video!! i was able to earn an APOD 03/10/2023 following this advice about not over doing the saturation and sharpening 👏👍
I saw it ,, good job man and congrats !
Dylan, Happy New year to you and your family. This is a great tutorial. I will definitely look into it. To be honest, I do everything in Pixinsight generally. I need to see from this one which steps I can use Photoshop.
Everything can be done in PI except minor touch ups with the heal tool .. does it have one? It wants you to lean heavily on calibration and not touch ups to finish and image.. so it would be harder to just brighten the nebulas with a simple feathered mask which took me all of 3 seconds in PS.. so I think the programs work well when used together .. PI first then PS
@@DylanODonnell absolutely. That is the good way to put it. I have to check on that Topaz thing you mentioned too.
I have a question. In the beginning you mentioned somewhere the image flips on RASA. So every time we need to flip it back? I never noticed that on Hyperstar. Maybe didn't occur.
Stunning!!!!
Cheers Mike :)
Weird, but at 3:10 I can see a gorilla looking at a light he’s holding in his hand. Pareidolia anyone? Totally awesome image.
Indeed amazing , Dylan what computer are you using ,Mac or Windows , i have both but im more familiar with the mac ,but some of the programs i read people are using are windows based , would it be any trouble if you shared the programs you use , or maybe a video for the total beguinner who wants to start astrophoto ? i really enjoy/love your work ,thanks for all the info
I use a Mac! You should find a video on my channel where I explain this and have a list of software too :) #teamosx
Hey Dylan, best video you’ve ever done, I’ve been digesting it for months, finally started getting good results with your workflow, that colour blend mode is superb. Used some good data I got with (your girlfriend 😍) Carina, managed to get a wonderful blend of my Ha and colour data, textures and detail best I have ever had, but I ended up with ugly red haloes around most of my stars. Tried a few tricks to get rid of them, but no joy. Any suggestions?
Thanks for this one, definitely going to have a look into pixinsight now, and have to rewatch and take notes, Cheers Dylan
(and thanks to twitter for not having an edit button for typos).
No worries Chardies, thanks for the prompt .. come join the cult of pixinsight :)
Great work Dylan, keep up the good work man.. :) enjoy the channel
Hey thanks for the kind words!
Nicely done.
Thanks Brian! I can’t believe 1k ppl watched it really.
Alt Click in to the layer mask!
Dylan, can I ask what you do for a living? You don't have to be very specific. Love your channel.
I’m a computer nerd :)
Hi Dylan, thanks for the excellent idea tutorial! I'm guessing the answer to my question is because you're more comfortable with overlapping tools in Photoshop, since you use PS for work and finish the image there too, but I'm curious if the Ha/mono channel blending is basically the same thing as adding a luminance layer in PI? I've seen that referenced but haven't tried it yet. TIA
Lol check out my 4 year old photo with my 9.25. It’s ok but look at the RASA @ f2...... YOU SLAY ME EVERY TIME BRO!
Love it. and I also caught 3 subliminal messages in the first 50 Seconds of this video. :)
Hehe
Do you use bias with your CMOS cameras? Thx
Very helpful video thanks. Just starting out on my Astrophotography journey but found this very useful especially the Topaz denoise and Photoshop's smart sharpen tips that really made a difference to my image. Do you use any of the other Topazlabs products and if so which would you recommend?
Great video. There is a lot more detail to be had in the core which I reckon you have all the data for it. Meaningless though?
This video really helped:)
Also I would like to see dr zen again
Great to hear Hamsy :) Will continue to bribe Dr Zen for a reappearance.
Awesome video! My question is on the color calibration you don’t have to set preview points? Like your black point and white Before you color neutralize the image?
I never do but my targets are usually centred and the the black space is identified by the algorithm I assume. It would be different if you were shooting the heart of a nebula or something.
Why with your good CGX mount and short f.l. RASA scope, stars on basically all your photos are elongated? Is it wind? No. Is it bad guiding?
It's flexure with that particular setup. Doesn't happen on the RASA 8 and different guide scope setup.
What’s the point of notifications if you ignore them
I didn't see you behind the mic haha!
Hey Dylan, The eagle eye in me spotted that you are using a Mac! I know, check me. But I struggle to find some decent stacking software for Mac. Do you think Photoshop is OK to use for a noob like me? I only have a years experience (pretty much amounting to 15 images over a year in Scotland lol) of taking images of your favourite planet.
Macs rule! It’s expensive but pixinsight is one of the best. Nebulously does a good job too.
@@DylanODonnell Fantastic Dylan, and so sorry for later replay. I didn't get a notification. Bloody Macs!
I’m not a PI user. I do all my processing in PS. But I’m really drawn to learning PI. It looks like you only did a few operations in PI here and switched to PS. Could it all be done in PI or is it really essential, or just more effective, to use both?
I prefer both. Purists disagree :)
LOLLLLL HE USED PHOTOBOOTH! Man you know how to do it.
Dylan (or anyone else), ever tried using Darktable or any other free software over photoshop?
I have not, sorry! I'm a web dev / graphic designer by day so it's part of the paid work toolkit for me.
Yes, i used Gimp 2.xx (latest version) for ~8 month, its quiet good i think, but not as good as Photoshop. Its some kind of difficult to get used to the menus, some functions are really aggressive and others very weak... Try it and use it for a bit, gimp is a good starting point if you're new to astrophotography
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I use GIMP; be sure to get 2.10.8. It's the latest bug-fixed version of 2.10.0, which is the first high bit depth version of GIMP.
@@DylanODonnell By the way, forgot to say, love your content, keep it up !!
Hey thanks! I’ll keep making it if you keep watching it 😆
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Hey Dylan , what camera do you use for guiding and are you facing a problems on it and what do you prefer for a decent one , thanks , you’re my fav 🌹🌺🌹 I am a beginner astrophotographer and I made this channel to share my journey hope you like it and please subscribe ❤️🌹🌹
Yeah, nice. But it is the 1*10^6th image of M42 with blown out trapezium region. ;-) How about to capture the real interesting area with new born solar systems? There are a few protoplanetary discs waiting to be photographed...
Hehe I like the drama of the slightly brighter core.. so many “right” HDR versions look as flat as a pancake. Protoplanetary discs would be a challenge for backyard focal lengths !
Impressive tummy rumblings 😂
snarkyboojum hehe it’s a side effect of binge drinking before videos 🍺 clear audio tho right? :)
Dylan O'Donnell Very clear on my Sony MDR-1000x cans! 🤘
10% the actual photo, 90% post production😁.
Impressive tummy rumblings 😂
Noice
Thanks mate!
Really cool vid! But.. please learn to use the microphone ;)
I’m still learning :)
Not funny? Ok, I'm outta here..... Just Joking, great to see you take the time to mention everything that goes into making a good picture, great.. Thanks for sharing Dylan.
Andrew Wall thanks man :) won’t be a high view video but I know some people appreciate the deep dive ! Happy new year bud
Everything's allowed in art..
SIGH' Another Pixinsight! I'm trying so hard not to spend on that intimidating cumbersome software, but the results are really making DSS look like rookie mode. *stares at wallet* Don't do it!
Do it! The cult with the rest of us!