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  • @thatsfootball
    @thatsfootball  9 місяців тому +61

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    • @chicken-curry
      @chicken-curry 9 місяців тому +6

      no

    • @Samtheman91
      @Samtheman91 9 місяців тому +1

      yeah

    • @howyoudoing4383
      @howyoudoing4383 9 місяців тому +4

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    • @jc6087
      @jc6087 9 місяців тому +1

      That wasn't a Red Card, you don't know anything about football.

    • @jc6087
      @jc6087 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@justmatt7931he doesn't know anything, ignore him.

  • @Darwinisgod27
    @Darwinisgod27 9 місяців тому +1399

    Paul Tierney is not incompetent he is corrupt

    • @LN_997
      @LN_997 9 місяців тому +129

      Exactly, one or two mistakes would be incompetence but consistent mistakes against certain teams is corruption

    • @adamjc7558
      @adamjc7558 9 місяців тому +6

      Stop crying

    • @leesheetho4139
      @leesheetho4139 9 місяців тому +29

      @@LN_997like Anthony Taylor against Chelsea 😂

    • @jamesbishop4635
      @jamesbishop4635 9 місяців тому

      @@adamjc7558 Stop making moronic comments

    • @DB-07
      @DB-07 9 місяців тому +13

      He’s not the only one.

  • @jayturner90
    @jayturner90 9 місяців тому +717

    For Liverpool, there's a real real issue with Tierney. He's given way more games for Liverpool than should be and has a big clanger every single game. At best he's incompetent, at worst he Is biased against Liverpool because of all of the history.

    • @kwl189
      @kwl189 9 місяців тому +54

      If there's anything that should unite all football fans it's this bullshit with PGMOL, the refs and VAR. All of it needs to be scrapped.

    • @Gadeberg90
      @Gadeberg90 9 місяців тому +50

      He and his family are City fans

    • @TR4zest
      @TR4zest 9 місяців тому +46

      Bias isn't the worse. I am starting to believe it is corruption.

    • @Bellabooooooo
      @Bellabooooooo 9 місяців тому +10

      Let's be honest their is a few refs who target certain teams like Michael Oliver and man utd

    • @davyprendergast82
      @davyprendergast82 9 місяців тому

      No, at worst he's biased against Liverpool because him and several other refs have been paid or threatened by City representatives to give more decisions against Liverpool and Arsenal and more for City.

  • @ravendark2422
    @ravendark2422 9 місяців тому +439

    When Tierney is involved in a Liverpool game they’ll always get shafted and he was on VAR.

    • @dombrown-tz3zu
      @dombrown-tz3zu 9 місяців тому +46

      And now he’s the ref for the chelsea game. They’re having a laugh.

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 9 місяців тому +20

      ​@@dombrown-tz3zuhead of refs is putting him against us every game because they want to help city

    • @kamenrob8500
      @kamenrob8500 9 місяців тому +2

      Investigate family ties and betting with calls he's made that directly affects the outcome of a match ie a goal allowed disallowed goal past x minute.

    • @jakes658
      @jakes658 9 місяців тому

      Every fan makes the same stupid claim about their team...

    • @ElainaMaruyama
      @ElainaMaruyama 9 місяців тому +1

      @@jakes658 So I guess Klopp is wrong too then

  • @GIBBO4182
    @GIBBO4182 9 місяців тому +177

    The foul on Luis Dias was ridiculous the weekend. Couldn’t believe it wasn’t a red card, especially with what Curtis Jones got sent off for! And I’m not even a Liverpool fan

    • @garywoollett189
      @garywoollett189 9 місяців тому +3

      The joke was that the ref and var agreed it wasn't even a yellow

    • @NoFrictionZone
      @NoFrictionZone 9 місяців тому +1

      It wasn't even a foul!

    • @usanumba1916
      @usanumba1916 9 місяців тому +1

      He didn’t even touch him mate

    • @ComradeOgilvy1984
      @ComradeOgilvy1984 9 місяців тому +8

      @@usanumba1916 In the replay, we literally can see Diaz's leg bend under the force of the studs applied on his upper shin.
      What this goes to show is that when Liverpool is involved there are plenty of people ​ like yourself and @NoFrictionZone who will lie through their teeth. Facts do not matter. What anyone who has eyes who has watched the replay would say does not matter.

    • @kaushikdookan2185
      @kaushikdookan2185 9 місяців тому

      ​​@@usanumba1916Indeed he did touch mate

  • @footyflamez7455
    @footyflamez7455 9 місяців тому +947

    VAR isn’t the problem, it’s the people who use it
    -everyone 23/24 😂

    • @PalaWootje
      @PalaWootje 9 місяців тому

      Exactly, nothing wrong VAR. Its the incompetent morons running it.

    • @mountain342
      @mountain342 9 місяців тому +30

      VAR stands for Video Assistant REFEREE.

    • @ph8077
      @ph8077 9 місяців тому

      The Prem has the worst, most arrogant, incompetent, & low IQ officials in the top leagues

    • @juiced9432
      @juiced9432 9 місяців тому +52

      It's clear they can't use it. Get some young uni students in who know how to use a computer

    • @xXMABSHREDXx
      @xXMABSHREDXx 9 місяців тому

      @@mountain342 VAR stands for Videos Are Retarded

  • @mrchickflick4444
    @mrchickflick4444 9 місяців тому +444

    Liverpool’s final 17 games will be played against the pgmol 😅

    • @seongthongchuah8356
      @seongthongchuah8356 9 місяців тому +63

      We have been playing against them since the start of the season, from penalty shout against Chelsea first game of the season, an offside goal against Spurs and a penalty shout against Arsenal to now this (which actually doesn't affect the result), PGMOL costed us at least 7 points, a few bad red card or not given the other club (when play against us) red card and just so many more. I have been saying it's Liverpool vs PGMOL since Tottenham game, and you know what, Man City on the other hand never get bad decisions, remember PGMOL said they won't allow players to surround the ref, only 2 players max if not a yellow card, they done it so many times, almost every game but they never got a yellow.

    • @mrchickflick4444
      @mrchickflick4444 9 місяців тому +39

      @@seongthongchuah8356it’s becoming increasingly like there is an agenda against Liverpool and them not wanting us to win the league for some reason and don’t get my started on that Paul tierny🤬 but the lads have such a great mentality and quality the pgmol won’t beat us.

    • @ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh
      @ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh 9 місяців тому +19

      @@mrchickflick4444THEY ARE IN THE SHEIKHS POCKET

    • @jeffbezos2570
      @jeffbezos2570 9 місяців тому +25

      ​@@Swan94y you are a bad troll

    • @bb5979
      @bb5979 9 місяців тому +2

      Its hilarious that liverpool pretend that no decisions went their way in that spurs game or that they were guaranteed to win if that goal counted. Idiot crybabies.

  • @JSWGardenServices
    @JSWGardenServices 9 місяців тому +251

    Respect for always speaking the truth Mark. PGMOL incompetent lately, spoiling it for the fans.

    • @markcrosby7773
      @markcrosby7773 9 місяців тому

      "spoining it for the fans" yes; "incompetent" no.

  • @mchlbeckett
    @mchlbeckett 9 місяців тому +160

    Clubs should start filing lawsuits against pgmol.

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 9 місяців тому +15

      Can't wait for liverpool to sue Paul Tierney

    • @Rain188
      @Rain188 9 місяців тому +2

      I said that after Liverpool vs spurs game

    • @Discordisnotagoodthing
      @Discordisnotagoodthing 9 місяців тому

      Football is just a game. A bad decision doesn’t mean you have to sue the ref

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 9 місяців тому

      @Discordisnotagoodthing when it clear it the same refs doing every single game against you every year then you know it cheating

    • @ryanlocke3537
      @ryanlocke3537 9 місяців тому +17

      @@Discordisnotagoodthingmultiple millions are on the line, but sure it’s just a game 😅

  • @arjay3580
    @arjay3580 9 місяців тому +39

    PGMOL tag teamed with Paul Tierney against Liverpool
    PGMOL tag teamed with Michael Oliver against Man United
    PGMOL tag teamed with Simon Hooper against Arsenal
    PGMOL vs other teams… and then we have PGMOL favouring Man City 🤝

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 9 місяців тому +4

      Every game

    • @VensystemsUk
      @VensystemsUk 9 місяців тому +7

      Michael Oliver has done his bit against arsenal too. Liverpool and Arsenal would've have been well ahead of City if it wasn't for PGMOL errors.

    • @TheMercWithMouth
      @TheMercWithMouth 9 місяців тому +9

      Careful you're gonna trigger the city gloryhunters..as they also believe the earth is flat.

    • @DavidRegaL-lw5xz
      @DavidRegaL-lw5xz 9 місяців тому

      ​@@TheMercWithMouththat's more bin dippers that think Fergie rolex watches and City in bed with the CIA & British Crown denied them success. Everybody else's fault..victims fc

    • @liverbot4854
      @liverbot4854 8 місяців тому

      Don't forget Anthony Taylor against Chelsea.

  • @lowdz68
    @lowdz68 9 місяців тому +162

    Who hasn't it happened to? Man City.

    • @SadikBabu-sf6uq
      @SadikBabu-sf6uq 9 місяців тому +8

      Spurs?

    • @anshumansahu1087
      @anshumansahu1087 9 місяців тому +5

      Man City have just got the most atrocious decision of the last 5 years in the game vs Spurs. What are you taking about?

    • @numberbloodysix2478
      @numberbloodysix2478 9 місяців тому +46

      @@anshumansahu1087that’s a lie

    • @kianhardiman3883
      @kianhardiman3883 9 місяців тому +18

      @@anshumansahu1087 First of all, no goal was disallowed. Second, would he have scored from the chance anyway? Most likely yes but he still would have had work to do. City haven’t had any major goals disallowed or red cards given etc that’s affected them during a game, and then cost them points (not that I can remember anyway)

    • @christophersteyn3861
      @christophersteyn3861 9 місяців тому +38

      @@anshumansahu1087 Only city fans would call an advantage not being given "the most atrocious decision of the last 5 years"

  • @ashlfc4eva
    @ashlfc4eva 9 місяців тому +36

    The tackle on Diaz should have been a red! Similar challenge to Jones. Everyone saying Jones challenge shouldn’t have been a red, but var deemed it to be a red from a yellow. The suspension was upheld! Therefore deemed a red! Which kluiverts should have been as well 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @Thespacecadet187
    @Thespacecadet187 9 місяців тому +72

    I've turned off football, can't watch it anymore.
    The refs and VAR has killed it

    • @zocco15az
      @zocco15az 9 місяців тому

      That's sad no one can ruin our beautiful game 😢I understand why you've give up.

    • @oufc90
      @oufc90 9 місяців тому

      Watch the EFL. No VAR here, just as football always was when it was great 👍

    • @drakesnake
      @drakesnake 9 місяців тому

      They killed it when Liverpool was going to win the prem

  • @inderghandial
    @inderghandial 9 місяців тому +61

    I’m just waiting for Liverpool to get a 39th fixture against PGMOL at the end of the season. 😅

    • @redknight07_
      @redknight07_ 9 місяців тому +17

      We already played them like 6 times this season

    • @themog4911
      @themog4911 9 місяців тому +3

      @@redknight07_ 🤣

    • @lfcyeezus
      @lfcyeezus 9 місяців тому +2

      Okay but imagine an actual match of Liverpool vs a bunch of referees. Would be hilarious, and someone's getting injured

  • @TahirIqbal1978
    @TahirIqbal1978 9 місяців тому +102

    It's not just the bottom sides. LFC didn't get a stone wall red card because we have Paul Tierney who thinks Kluivert isn't a red but thought Jones soft shins was a red.

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 9 місяців тому +31

      ​@@Swan94yJones slipped over the ball the bournemouth guy didn't touch the ball

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 9 місяців тому +5

      @@Swan94y head of refs really trying help city huh Paul Tierney In every game against liverpool 🙄 I can't wait for liverpool to sue him at the end of the season

    • @johncobourne361
      @johncobourne361 9 місяців тому

      He's a troll kid. Mummy didn't hug him enough ​@@andrewwright4195

    • @DeanWarwick-1993
      @DeanWarwick-1993 9 місяців тому

      Go and watch golf you melt ​@Swan94y

    • @TheMercWithMouth
      @TheMercWithMouth 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Swan94yfalse .. surprise a united fan thinks otherwise.
      It's a red.

  • @averagebeastt3606
    @averagebeastt3606 9 місяців тому +57

    How often do we see the same pairing of officials? Simon Hooper/Anthony Taylor, Paul Tierney/John Brooks - the list goes on... The officials are gate keeping their roles in the Prem. You rarely ever see younger and new officials.

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 9 місяців тому +12

      They do this against liverpool every game because they want to help city

    • @jlockers52
      @jlockers52 9 місяців тому +1

      @@andrewwright4195i disagree. As a West Ham fan, I’ve experienced some very very bad decisions, but I don’t think there is any bias involved i just think the referees are so poor

    • @averagebeastt3606
      @averagebeastt3606 9 місяців тому +1

      @@andrewwright4195 Yep and guess who we have officiating for the Chelsea game? Paul Tierney/John Brooks.. You genuinely can't make this sh*t up. 🤣

    • @averagebeastt3606
      @averagebeastt3606 9 місяців тому +1

      @@jlockers52 Deffo bias involved. These refs mentioned have been spotted as fans at multiple clubs in the Prem. The agenda stinks if it's not their club.

  • @pbharish
    @pbharish 9 місяців тому +103

    It is unfortunate that games are being decided by incompetent match officials who apply the ‘law’ only when it is convenient to them. The EPL Title should NOT and Can NOT be decided by Match officials. There are specific officials who have a certain agenda against specific teams. Good on you, Mark for talking about this. Paul Tierney has a specific agenda against Liverpool and it is not just obvious but blatant.

  • @kloppsippingvarsenaltears2789
    @kloppsippingvarsenaltears2789 9 місяців тому +136

    Curtis Jones was banned for 3 games for a similar tackle against spurs.

    • @CharlieFisherMusic
      @CharlieFisherMusic 9 місяців тому +35

      If anythinng I'd argue Jones was less of a red card offence. He got more of the ball and slipped over it...

    • @ukchinese
      @ukchinese 9 місяців тому +24

      Not quite, Curtis Jones actually got the ball. His foot then rolled off the ball and landed on another player's s ankle. That was totally incidental and should not even be a yellow.

    • @sammypie5501
      @sammypie5501 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@ukchineseif its endangering the player than it should be a red.

    • @jefepeeps4308
      @jefepeeps4308 9 місяців тому +9

      @@sammypie5501 and yet Kluiverts wasn't. Did you see his tackle? That's what we are talking about

    • @sammypie5501
      @sammypie5501 9 місяців тому

      @@jefepeeps4308 both are reds

  • @syngibbs
    @syngibbs 9 місяців тому +21

    The thing that nobody seems to be talking about is accountability. Who does the PGMOL answer to? The Diaz goal that was ruled out, who’s pressuring them to do something about it? What’s to stop the ref next weekend sending off a player just because he doesn’t like them? Who is to stop the PGMOL treating Liverpool differently because Klopp said something bad about them?

  • @brazenborgs7975
    @brazenborgs7975 9 місяців тому +11

    I'm glad atleast there are people who are pointing this robbery boldly, much appreciated!

  • @traviszajac1160
    @traviszajac1160 9 місяців тому +83

    Thank you for speaking publicly about this big issue

    • @Pete61
      @Pete61 9 місяців тому +1

      Lol

  • @PeterChelmsford
    @PeterChelmsford 9 місяців тому +41

    That wrestling move on Bowen at the end of the Sheffield Utd/West Ham game was a clear penalty. Both players and fans would vote to scrap VAR if given the choice.

    • @mickfoskett6629
      @mickfoskett6629 9 місяців тому +2

      Clubs should have a vote as to not having var for a season..to see how it goes!🤔👹

  • @user-venom450
    @user-venom450 9 місяців тому +39

    Mark vs VAR ,, Good tech in football but the referee’s especially in England…

  • @Thespacecadet187
    @Thespacecadet187 9 місяців тому +68

    I can't get over how so many ppl think it's incompetent, and this is why they get away with the blatant and obvious corruption...
    They are laughing at all us football fans..
    Till we all come together as a football community and call out this corruption for what it is, it will never change....

    • @jeffbezos2570
      @jeffbezos2570 9 місяців тому

      It's just like politics in this country. Plain and obvious corruption and they are laughing in our faces. They think we are to stupid to do anything about it/ notice it.

    • @davyprendergast82
      @davyprendergast82 9 місяців тому +2

      Exactly. So sick of seeing the word incompetent. And the worst is that they think getting rid of VAR (exactly what the match fixers want!) will fix it! It will make it even worse. They need to deal with City and replace all the refs in the PGMOL

    • @DM-rc4yu
      @DM-rc4yu 9 місяців тому +3

      Sure, "corruption" against every single club at different points of the season.

    • @johnbennett9630
      @johnbennett9630 9 місяців тому

      Corruption against whatever team happens to be the threat to Man City at that moment. Mostly that's Liverpool but also Arsenal at times. If you were the City owner just how much would that draw between the two clubs ahead of you in the league be worth? Of course there are the other inconsistent calls that are down to plain spite or fandom so it looks more random but when a club threatens to top MCFC they are always nobbled. And when City look like failing they are always helped by the officials.@@DM-rc4yu

    • @JasonWilliams89
      @JasonWilliams89 9 місяців тому +2

      Do you need me to buy you a tinfoil hat or have you got one already?

  • @neilldn74
    @neilldn74 9 місяців тому +29

    We need open mics so everyone hears their conversation.

  • @Greenghost3k
    @Greenghost3k 9 місяців тому +20

    VAR proves it does not require referees. It just requires competent people who apply the rules consistently to the actual incident. Mark is right about having reference material which is why at some point AI will need to intervene because it seems the officials making the decisions is getting worst. Just remember the VAR operator who is not a referee seemed to be the only person who knew Diaz goal was not offside.

  • @AlastairBlunt-oj3yl
    @AlastairBlunt-oj3yl 9 місяців тому +12

    Nice to hear someone who talks football sense ...keep it going bud ....from Liverpool fan

  • @PipJim80
    @PipJim80 9 місяців тому +61

    Liverpool are currently unbeaten this season. The one ‘loss’ they’ve had against spurs there were 2 injustices - 1. The Diaz goal incorrectly disallowed and 2. Curtis jones sent off for a foul that is no longer a red card anymore (a change to the rules midway through the season)

    • @negritoojosclaros
      @negritoojosclaros 9 місяців тому +1

      Even if the rule was created now, the criteria of the referee had to see that that was a slip. Was clearly

    • @GavMystro
      @GavMystro 9 місяців тому +5

      Love how fans only remember things that have gone against their team hahah. What about all the decisions that have gone liverpool's way, if you fixed those they wouldn't be unbeaten at all

    • @negritoojosclaros
      @negritoojosclaros 9 місяців тому +8

      @@GavMystro name matches

    • @ssjtalla23
      @ssjtalla23 9 місяців тому +4

      @@GavMystro LITERALLY NONE DID! Yes we get sometimes small decisions like mid-game fouls, goal-kicks and similar. But all teams do, that's refereeing. But VAR was introduced to see the BIG stuff that decides a game, and we get that against us.

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 9 місяців тому +3

      What matches?​@@GavMystro

  • @dmagil01us
    @dmagil01us 9 місяців тому +14

    VAR did notice that Toney moved the ball and the spray but they're saying they can't interfere in yellow card offenses and it was the sideline or 4th referee's job to catch that, it's pitiful really.

  • @kyleg2238
    @kyleg2238 9 місяців тому +14

    1 week after being on VAR and screwing up the Kluivert challenge against Liverpool, Tierney has been given the match as main official for Liverpool v Chelsea. It’s just unbelievable

    • @KopJustin
      @KopJustin 9 місяців тому +1

      He has been in charge of LFC games or VAR every 3 games ..someone needs to pin an excel of games Tierney is in charge of comparing LFC games v others ..

  • @ScousehouseRoulette4979
    @ScousehouseRoulette4979 9 місяців тому +29

    The Spurs game should have been declared void then replayed because of the awful decisions in that game. But we talk about a title race that involves Liverpool, City, Arsenal, Villa & possibly Spurs but there’s another team involved in the race and that’s the PGMOL who are robbing most of the teams except for City.

    • @HaydenTaylor-qs1si
      @HaydenTaylor-qs1si 9 місяців тому +1

      So you start off complaining about a bad decision against spurs, then go on to conclude city apparently getting no bad calls when they literally had one against spurs, try to be unbiased

    • @TheJrr71
      @TheJrr71 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@HaydenTaylor-qs1si It wasn't a bad decision in the Spurs v LFC match... it was a failure of the entire refereeing team to perform their jobs.
      The Curtis Jones red, was a bad decision, but bad decisions happen. The total and complete failure to officiate the match according to the rules of the game, was a systemic error.

  • @harrydwinduono5520
    @harrydwinduono5520 9 місяців тому +23

    Liverpool main problem ( enemy) is Var , Ref & PGMOL !!!

    • @Chr15Payne
      @Chr15Payne 9 місяців тому +2

      Because they don't benefit from it right?

    • @TheMercWithMouth
      @TheMercWithMouth 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@Chr15Paynethe problem is the blatant inconsistencies from pgmol.
      You believe kluivert tackle was ok?

    • @Chr15Payne
      @Chr15Payne 9 місяців тому

      @@TheMercWithMouth I haven't seen the kluivert tackle I don't think, I may need a refresher. But I do agree, it is blatantly inconsistent. Far too blatant for the most watched league in the world

  • @jonho7
    @jonho7 9 місяців тому +14

    Spot on Mark, I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. The refs have made it about them, protecting their own best interests and helping their mate on the pitch.
    VAR is there for the ref to use it, to make sure the decision was made. Not for the VAR to re-ref the game. It’s infuriating what they are doing, big decisions being influenced by the current mood of the VAR.

  • @theo11111
    @theo11111 9 місяців тому +146

    We have the best league but arguably the worst officials

    • @leemartin3429
      @leemartin3429 9 місяців тому +11

      Its not evan arguably though is it we definitely do have the worse officials

    • @loveisdevine11
      @loveisdevine11 9 місяців тому +17

      @@leemartin3429la liga wins

    • @Yourfuckinslow
      @Yourfuckinslow 9 місяців тому

      @@loveisdevine11nah theirs are just corrupt😂

    • @reecetanner8096
      @reecetanner8096 9 місяців тому +2

      In a world where African football dosent exist I’m sure we do have the worst officials in the world🤣

    • @leemartin3429
      @leemartin3429 9 місяців тому

      @@loveisdevine11 Does it really? I wouldn't know don't watch it

  • @SmithyD86
    @SmithyD86 9 місяців тому +8

    The Diaz one is actually worse than it looks because the ball is on Diaz left leg, legs spread wide apart, and Kluivert goes studs up onto his right leg high, it's an obvious red for me.

  • @RichardGardiner
    @RichardGardiner 9 місяців тому +4

    Mark your description about PGMOL taking our (the fan's) power from the equation is absolutely bang on. Well put.

  • @jacoblloyd3768
    @jacoblloyd3768 9 місяців тому +27

    They read the rule book out on sky sports concerning the Bowen incident. And how VAR hasn’t told the referee that he’s made a mistake is a joke. An absolute joke! referees and VAR need to give explanations for their decisions after games. Because it’s getting ridiculous

    • @jlockers52
      @jlockers52 9 місяців тому +2

      The worst thing about that one is that it didn’t even get checked . Really really pissed me off

    • @MeMyselfOhare
      @MeMyselfOhare 9 місяців тому

      Bowen fouled the defender though, clear as day. That's why it wasn't checked. You have to look at the full phase of play and Bowen grabs the defender first, the foul already happens before they go to ground

    • @jlockers52
      @jlockers52 9 місяців тому

      @@MeMyselfOhare he didn’t give a foul, he gave handball. It wasn’t a foul

    • @MeMyselfOhare
      @MeMyselfOhare 9 місяців тому

      @@jlockers52 potentially, but if there was a foul it was committed by Bowen before Anel

    • @ryans588
      @ryans588 9 місяців тому

      @@MeMyselfOhare It was given for a handball, as he was being rugby tackled to the ground, whilst the defender has his back to the ball... so don't try to justify it.

  • @drjay0744
    @drjay0744 9 місяців тому +20

    Everyone running VAR hasn't 'played the game'

  • @gostepsenglish4431
    @gostepsenglish4431 9 місяців тому +8

    It's amazing that, after Curtis Jones having been sent off (after a VAR check), the Kluivert tackle wasn't treated the same.

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 9 місяців тому +1

      Paul Tierney that why

    • @gostepsenglish4431
      @gostepsenglish4431 9 місяців тому +1

      @@andrewwright4195 Yeah, amazing isn't it.

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 9 місяців тому +1

      @@gostepsenglish4431 he in Chelsea next tomorrow we got Simon they doing everything they can to stop us

  • @jamesmcdevitt5327
    @jamesmcdevitt5327 9 місяців тому +37

    Love this more than sky sports news 👍

  • @tobberknudsen1
    @tobberknudsen1 9 місяців тому +6

    THANK YOU MARK! I WISH THIS WOULD BE SPOKEN ABOUT OFFICIALLY

  • @geraldmoodley5615
    @geraldmoodley5615 9 місяців тому +3

    Im a Liverpool fan and the thing that frustrated me the most this past weekend was when that westham player got wrestled to the ground in the box and no penalty given..now that was absolutely madness..

  • @Reflex261
    @Reflex261 9 місяців тому +44

    Just a shame that a brilliant competitive season is being overshadowed by VAR. It needs to go if the people running it are incompetent. Football viewers are more competent than these officials!!

    • @tomtalley2192
      @tomtalley2192 9 місяців тому +2

      League table:
      1. PGMOL
      2. Man City
      3. Liverpool
      4. Arsenal
      5. Villa

    • @davidhenderson9707
      @davidhenderson9707 9 місяців тому

      FA swallowed the money, now they need to readdress the problem.’VAR out now, it wouldn’t be allowed in any normal workplace after so much incompetence! Joke

    • @redknight07_
      @redknight07_ 9 місяців тому

      ​@@tomtalley2192PGMOL on fire this season(starring Simon Hooper and Paul Tierney)

    • @bentosschan973
      @bentosschan973 9 місяців тому +3

      not VAR but the corrupt officials

    • @josephstover4736
      @josephstover4736 9 місяців тому +1

      If you can bet on it, it's fixed. All entertainment

  • @fens33
    @fens33 9 місяців тому +3

    yep. fully agree with this one. As a LFC fan we called this out after spurs and everyone told us to stop moaning. but we told you its gonna happen to your team. we dont want special treatment we want the refs to be better and we were rediculed and mocked by almost everyone after 2 days. The only way to improve it and change it is to beat it like a drum and not go away. Make the noise so intense they can't ignore it. All fans must unite against the inadequacy of the pgmol

  • @DarkAwakeningPMC
    @DarkAwakeningPMC 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for speaking up for the clubs who aren’t in the top 6 dealing with this issue

  • @aarongomez4759
    @aarongomez4759 9 місяців тому +10

    wasn’t given for the foul on kulusevski by lewis dunk a few weeks back as well

  • @matmauala4807
    @matmauala4807 9 місяців тому +2

    Let's all go all out supporting this channel! This guy is one of the most passionate die hard fan of FOOTBALL, who genuinely loves the sport and wants these changes to happen for the betterment of our beautiful sport ❤

  • @Danny4sure
    @Danny4sure 9 місяців тому +4

    I listen to every podcast episode during my breaks at college, they are the highlight of Tuesdays and Fridays for me. Love all your work mark

  • @CARBONVIPER7
    @CARBONVIPER7 9 місяців тому +3

    I think they have done something very clever here because we don’t sit and complain about referees anymore. We complain about the VAR it actually deflecting away from referees and protecting the referees here because all we’re complaining these days about VAR are not about referees. I remember go down to the pub and complaining about a referee made a terrible decision and people were horrible to refs I remember decision being made and referees want to be attacked.

  • @neilfitzsimmons1800
    @neilfitzsimmons1800 9 місяців тому +7

    VAR was designed to give Man City the opportunity to win trophies with retrospective decisions and change the course of the game. It is now obvious that City are beneficiaries to all VAR decisions, whether in their games or their rivals games. Luxury watches abundant from Sheikh Mansour.

    • @Godismighty34
      @Godismighty34 9 місяців тому +1

      Really the same league that want city relegated. Which one is it😅

    • @neilfitzsimmons1800
      @neilfitzsimmons1800 9 місяців тому +2

      @Kojo558 they won't get punished. City are too powerful and have a thousand times more resources to throw expensive lawyers to avoid any consequences of cheating.

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 9 місяців тому

      ​@@neilfitzsimmons1800100% we have Paul Tierney every single game

    • @sduduzogcaba5086
      @sduduzogcaba5086 9 місяців тому +1

      I thought the league wants city out as well 😂 why give them more titles

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 9 місяців тому +1

      @@sduduzogcaba5086 rivals want punishment not Manchester refs they support city

  • @mathisgobin618
    @mathisgobin618 9 місяців тому +2

    The problem with VAR, is that the officials in England have their “unique” way of officiating, but when you introduce VAR and technology, they have to mix it up or come with a new way of officiating, and, because they’re either inconsistent or incompetent, it creates what we have today in the Premier League

  • @laydownlays
    @laydownlays 9 місяців тому +4

    I know people don't like City but they have lost two players injured, because they won't put the offside flag up....

  • @ilovevegimite
    @ilovevegimite 9 місяців тому +2

    Maybe managers could get away with saying "Ask Mark Goldbridge" when questioned about decisions that might get them into trouble during a press conference.

  • @AlduinDragonLord
    @AlduinDragonLord 9 місяців тому +3

    Sadly, the people who have the most influence in changing this - the players and managers - will get fined heavily when they speak up against it. The PGMOL is a corrupt mafia of ineptitude.

  • @29memyselfandi
    @29memyselfandi 9 місяців тому +2

    For anyone who might have missed it check out Forest’s Willy Boly getting sent off against Bournemouth. It kind of went under the radar but it’s one of the most bizarre and almost hilariously bad decisions you’ll ever see if you watch football forever. I don’t believe it’s corruption - it’s just incompetence from people who’ve never played football and don’t really know how it works.

  • @LeeTAZ-sl7de
    @LeeTAZ-sl7de 9 місяців тому +4

    Still waiting for Artetas rant at VAR allowing Arsenals second goal to stand, Ben White is clearly backing into the keeper stopping him moving forward but VAR the same people who dissalowed a United goal when a player is standing next to the keeper but allows a goal when a player is touching the keeper.

  • @michellebaartman8681
    @michellebaartman8681 9 місяців тому +4

    I think every decision should be the referee's. VAR should refer the ref to the screen to analyze incidents and it should be he's decision alone.

  • @KannonballKiller
    @KannonballKiller 9 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for discussing the Forest incident. It is a disgrace that so many in mainstream media are blaming Forest. It's NOT their job to referee the game. Shocker incoming, it's the referee's job to referee the game. Victim blaming in football terms

  • @robzombie5928
    @robzombie5928 9 місяців тому +3

    We looked into ourselves and determined we didnt do anything wrong. Also our people are great and your own eyes are wrong.

  • @morphus6536
    @morphus6536 9 місяців тому +1

    Liverpool fan just signed up for the podcast. Good work

  • @marcusdillon-iz6el
    @marcusdillon-iz6el 9 місяців тому +1

    I love your goldbridge saves football podcast! Absolutely class keep it up!

  • @makumbakatete2163
    @makumbakatete2163 9 місяців тому +1

    The product they give us is football, the consumers are the fans. If the product is not okay us as consumers need a say to take things back to standard.

  • @Danny-zw7sw
    @Danny-zw7sw 9 місяців тому +3

    'Who doesn't it happen to?'
    Laughing in Man City.

    • @HaydenTaylor-qs1si
      @HaydenTaylor-qs1si 9 місяців тому +2

      Even though it happens to city

    • @TheMercWithMouth
      @TheMercWithMouth 9 місяців тому

      ​@@HaydenTaylor-qs1siname some..

    • @PUBGh4di
      @PUBGh4di 9 місяців тому +3

      It happens to every team bro. When it's man city, everyone celebrates and when it's another top 6 team it's the end of football because of the corruption. 😂
      Sad fans, sad reality. Jealousy of man city 😂

    • @HaydenTaylor-qs1si
      @HaydenTaylor-qs1si 9 місяців тому +1

      @@PUBGh4di exactly

  • @Jamie16611
    @Jamie16611 9 місяців тому +2

    If Liverpool lose the league by a point again the PGMOL will be catching a lawsuit I imagine.

  • @ph8077
    @ph8077 9 місяців тому +3

    'Can't believe that you didn't mention the Luis Diaz wrongfully disallowed goal when discussing teams directly affected by VAR idiocy...Liverpool might have won that game instead of losing it - If they lose the title by 2 or 3 points, it will be down to that one decision.

    • @kloppsippingvarsenaltears2789
      @kloppsippingvarsenaltears2789 9 місяців тому +1

      No one will remember this or care about circumstances unfortunately. They'll only remember the winner.

    • @ssssssss1643
      @ssssssss1643 9 місяців тому +4

      Don’t forget VAR cost Liverpool title before but nobody remembers that…
      City escaped a penalty against Everton …. I did not forget but nobody talks about it … Liverpool lost the title by a point

    • @kloppsippingvarsenaltears2789
      @kloppsippingvarsenaltears2789 9 місяців тому +4

      @@ssssssss1643 kompany should've had a red in 2018-19 against Liverpool. There are plenty of examples

    • @HaydenTaylor-qs1si
      @HaydenTaylor-qs1si 9 місяців тому

      ​@@kloppsippingvarsenaltears2789what for the Salah dive?? Yeah right

    • @TheMercWithMouth
      @TheMercWithMouth 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@HaydenTaylor-qs1sicity fan deflection incoming 😂..
      It was a red....Salah was through and taken out by kompany.

  • @jaycurtis6087
    @jaycurtis6087 8 місяців тому +1

    Great stuff as usual Mark. Im a Liverpool fan. Paul Tierney is a real issue. If that tackle was a Liverpool player on Kluivert it would have been red. No question. Have a look at the Tomkins report on Paul Tierneys history with LFC, it is astonishing 😱

  • @mrchickflick4444
    @mrchickflick4444 9 місяців тому +5

    If Alan partridge joined the police got married, had a few kids, quit the police force and started a UA-cam channel😅
    ~Mark goldbridge~

  • @SETXkemosabee
    @SETXkemosabee 9 місяців тому +2

    Arsenal v Liverpool, Odegaard was absolutely raving at the official the whole game, no card, MacAllister throws his hands up once, carded. Officials are a fkn joke in the league atm.

  • @AviC-t4h
    @AviC-t4h 9 місяців тому +3

    var must go

    • @myownlilbubble
      @myownlilbubble 9 місяців тому +2

      The refs have to go....

    • @redknight07_
      @redknight07_ 9 місяців тому

      Var going will not improve anything, it will even make things worse. But we need the refs to actually do their job

  • @afro18en
    @afro18en 9 місяців тому +2

    We have to hear the conversation

  • @Ryzeex.
    @Ryzeex. 9 місяців тому +6

    "How is that a red? It's so unfair."
    "They've stopped giving that as a red? That's so unfair."
    Honestly, have a word with yourself. I'd agree that Premier League refs aren't good enough, but you just want to be a contrarian for some reason...

    • @dylanwyatt-brown3624
      @dylanwyatt-brown3624 9 місяців тому

      How about the refs just do their jobs properly? In any other job you if you do it poorly, you get the sack pretty obvious.

    • @liamjocelyn04
      @liamjocelyn04 9 місяців тому +2

      All we want is consistency with the refereeing

    • @trapeziumm
      @trapeziumm 9 місяців тому

      ​@@dylanwyatt-brown3624nah it's brits doing VAR poorly, they should replace the premier league referee to another league, they're doing fine.

    • @elijahtan-whyusehandle
      @elijahtan-whyusehandle 9 місяців тому

      Do you trust PGMOL or VAR?.. I guarantee someone gets red again for this kind of tackle, most probably Liverpool again.. It's the inconsistency.. They have to put a standard..
      They cannot keep apologizing..

    • @dylanwyatt-brown3624
      @dylanwyatt-brown3624 9 місяців тому

      @trapeziumm yh for some reason we have a fetish for only having British refs for some reason... we have the best players and coaches from around the world no idea why we can't do the same with refs.

  • @sageofsixpaths8392
    @sageofsixpaths8392 9 місяців тому +1

    Again mark i agree with you on everything except for switching VAR off, that solvess nothing and just regresses the progress we've made. Thats like banning all cars because of reckless driving, do you punish the driver or punish the car. The PGMOL and referees should face consequences not the technology thats being misused

  • @JustinWilliams-f1v
    @JustinWilliams-f1v 9 місяців тому

    As an American I only watch your videos for how you say the word 'World'. LOVE IT!

    • @SteveBarrow-lp2ns
      @SteveBarrow-lp2ns 9 місяців тому

      Maybe as an American you should apply for a "PASSPORT" (Google it) and go instead of trying to invade the 'World' go out to visit and explore it...

  • @DaveyDavester
    @DaveyDavester 9 місяців тому +1

    I love how mark is calling out everything,Even for Every club.

  • @stephenbarry7967
    @stephenbarry7967 9 місяців тому

    Paul Tomkins has a new article out since yesterday. Excellent read.

  • @oblah6709
    @oblah6709 9 місяців тому +1

    Mark, Kompany had his chance to speak up about VAR during the Liverpool disallowed goal at Spurs. Instead he chose to go tribal with the “refs are human they make mistakes”. He wasn’t so philosophical when it was his own team on the wrong end of a decision.

  • @drakesnake
    @drakesnake 9 місяців тому +2

    Put Mark in the VAR room

  • @zakiiskandar8291
    @zakiiskandar8291 9 місяців тому +1

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:00 ⚽ *[VAR and its Impact on Football]*
    - VAR's consistent errors are ruining the football experience.
    - The PGMOL and VAR's incompetence in handling onside/offside decisions.
    - Lack of policy changes despite glaring mistakes; the frustration of fans.
    03:37 🛑 *[Inconsistencies in Refereeing Decisions]*
    - Recent controversial decisions showcasing PGMOL's inconsistency.
    - The shift in the interpretation of dangerous tackles, impacting the game.
    - The chaos surrounding penalties and the subjective "clear and obvious" concept.
    08:17 🔍 *[V's Impact on Fans' Understanding]*
    - V's failure in preserving fans' empowerment and understanding of the game.
    - Highlighting specific instances where V decisions have adversely affected teams.
    - The need for concise and understandable rules, removing subjectivity in decision-making.
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  • @davidruscoe4261
    @davidruscoe4261 9 місяців тому

    Hi Mark, I agree with you over not changing referee guidelines mid season.
    We should hear all of the referee and var conversations as they occur, as in Rugby. We should also make var make a definitive decision themselves. The ref can then either then agree or disagree as he/she is the final arbitar during the game. Fans would then know exactly what var thought and what the ref thought, and we would deny them the opportunity to hide behind the 'clear an obvious' debacle.

  • @forestgump8401
    @forestgump8401 9 місяців тому +1

    Make it like Cricket... The Captain or manager gets 4 appeals. has 15 secs to appeal. If he right then the decision is overturned and still has the same number of appeals. If its wrong losses one of the 4 appeals. then its down to a skill...

  • @lordthundyr894
    @lordthundyr894 9 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video as usual. "Clear and obvious error" is used to judge whether the referee made a mistake given the constraints of his position and view of the action. It is not used to make the objectively correct decision. Despite the criticism this has received from fans, the PGMOL has refused to change this critical aspect of VAR. VAR is a system that was implemented with the express purpose of preventing referee gaffs having a great influence on the match result yet has utterly failed to produce such an effect from week to week. The PGMOL cannot make any reasonable excuse that explains why a system where slow motion, multi-angle replay can be used but cannot prevent the officials making objectively incorrect decisions. Solution: the referee must look at the incidents and/or what the VAR sees must be on the stadium screens for all to see. No one cares that a referee might make a mistake; they're only human and have a largely impossible job. But everyone other than the PGMOL cares about the correct decision being made. It's beyond mystifying.

  • @mrorangepeel659
    @mrorangepeel659 9 місяців тому +2

    Let’s now quote Mr Goldbridge “Studs up, gone over the ball… that’s reckless and dangerous and that is a red card every day of the week” ONLY that’s exactly what happened when Curtis Jones nearly broke the leg of Bissouma earlier this season after which Mark said that decision was a travesty of justice and was only worthy of a yellow card. Mark is just as inconsistent as the referee’s.

    • @danielmccafferty5373
      @danielmccafferty5373 9 місяців тому

      I've always said the spurs game was a disgrace yes...for the offside. But NOT for the Jones red card, it's a leg breaker and unnecessarily lunges in. I'm obviously in the minority with this one but it's an opinion

  • @Saharadesertdragon
    @Saharadesertdragon 9 місяців тому +1

    CLARIFICATION!!! VAR it is technology it's the PGMOL operating it that are the numptys messing it up on the field and in the operations room . Please clarify this point

  • @milanserdar1056
    @milanserdar1056 9 місяців тому +1

    Problem is that there are so much these bad decisions that effected end results and points that enirety of PL INTEGRITY IS QUESTIONABLE

  • @ROCKONplaceboforever
    @ROCKONplaceboforever 9 місяців тому

    Good video they need to get rid of the corrupt referees and VAR

  • @jameshurley4959
    @jameshurley4959 9 місяців тому

    That's actually very true I have no idea what is and what isn't a penalty these days!

  • @markwoods1504
    @markwoods1504 9 місяців тому

    As far as I know with regards to the studs up tackle FIFA & UEFA stipulate it's a Red Card offence in both European games and World Cup games, VAR whilst a good idea and it was needed and we were all calling for something before it came in as turned into a joke but only in this country !!!!!! in Europe they rarely have a problem with it. Last year whilst on holiday in Pulgia I went to watch Lecce play AC Milan at home VAR no problem. Why is it so difficult in this country to implement properly ??????? Excellent Video Mark.

  • @markornjak3169
    @markornjak3169 9 місяців тому

    Just 5th video about VAR this week. Keep it up Mark great content!

  • @supra4lif3
    @supra4lif3 9 місяців тому

    Well said at the end. Var should fix the referees errors instead of covering them. We can deal with live mistakes but not a var team ignoring them

  • @allanhon
    @allanhon 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the detailed analysis. I still think some of the officials are corrupted and you know who they are....

  • @janclinton5049
    @janclinton5049 9 місяців тому +1

    Well said Mark. The corruption now in are game is frightening. How did refs get so much power?

  • @false_terror3647
    @false_terror3647 9 місяців тому

    I’m actually now just fed up hearing about Refs and VAR now.

  • @richardspencer4328
    @richardspencer4328 9 місяців тому +1

    Goldbridge vs Gary
    In the gold corner we have goldbridge the man for the fans.
    In the ref corner we have Gary the man of the PGMOL

  • @northernpilgrim1
    @northernpilgrim1 9 місяців тому

    I'm surprised that anyone expected that putting technology in the hands of the same officials who were incompetent before it was introduced would lead to anything other than where we are now. VAR should be operated by people who know the rules of football, but are not refereeing games themselves, so there is no 'protecting my mate' aspect to it. The other thing that needs to change is the assumption that the ref's original decision was right, as this is what is causing the inconsistency.

  • @tomtalley2192
    @tomtalley2192 9 місяців тому +1

    NFL says “hold my beer”!,

  • @SETXkemosabee
    @SETXkemosabee 9 місяців тому +1

    In an offside situation they can go to the tape, draw a fkn line, catch a player being an inch or less offside (or on) and then call it a “clear and obvious” error. How tf is that clear and obvious?! They’re not even consistent with what that terminology means.

  • @garybarnes3975
    @garybarnes3975 9 місяців тому

    Thanks Mark, i thought it was just me that thought Tony was cheating, i understand moving the ball to miss the foam, but to move the ball then the foam then the ball again, that was CHEATING!. Then ref watch condones it & say it's innovative. At least you call it as is. Keep up the good work!

  • @sicr7373
    @sicr7373 9 місяців тому

    Totally agree with everything said by Mark.

  • @frankieshankly5368
    @frankieshankly5368 9 місяців тому

    Its a common problem, keep it up man!! Bst rgrds form Norway

  • @TFCtankspot
    @TFCtankspot 9 місяців тому +1

    And yet again Paul Tierney is ref for LFC match. They are just pissing with everybody apart of City. :D