The Mystical Origins of Coffee & Tea

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 4 лют 2025

КОМЕНТАРІ • 225

  • @Daradajee
    @Daradajee 4 роки тому +159

    Most words for tea around the world are derived from either the Mandarin Cha or the Hakka Teh. Countries which recieved tea culture by land usually have a name like cha/chai and those that got it by sea have te/tea. Chai if by land tea if by sea!

    • @teslastellar
      @teslastellar 3 роки тому +2

      Didn't know that. Thanks for the info👍

    • @ibrahimkhatib6191
      @ibrahimkhatib6191 3 роки тому +1

      Wow! That was cool to learn

    • @safi.uh_
      @safi.uh_ 3 роки тому +3

      interesting enough the philippines has the word Tsa (said Cha) i wonder what circumstances caused it to be an outlier :0

    • @Despotic_Waffle
      @Despotic_Waffle 3 роки тому +1

      Malay/Indonesian literally uses Teh, and the main dialect of Chinese spoken here is Hakka chinese too

    • @collinsjeri07
      @collinsjeri07 3 роки тому

      Cool!

  • @SeekersofUnity
    @SeekersofUnity 4 роки тому +89

    This is super cool. I had no idea this humble brew was steeped in such deep mystical history. Superb video.

    • @belteshazzarbenyakovleib1071
      @belteshazzarbenyakovleib1071 3 роки тому +1

      The only psycho active substance permitted in Islam my own teacher in the Kabbalah would not teach until he had two cups of coffee

    • @theurbancrystalhealer6952
      @theurbancrystalhealer6952 2 роки тому

      You must be from the west 🙄

    • @theurbancrystalhealer6952
      @theurbancrystalhealer6952 2 роки тому

      Not true, weed and Hashish is permitted. It does not intoxicate you

    • @randomchannel-px6ho
      @randomchannel-px6ho Рік тому

      @@theurbancrystalhealer6952 Hashish does not intoxicate you lololololol

    • @415-t1k
      @415-t1k Рік тому

      ​@@theurbancrystalhealer6952wallahi you're a kaafir for what you just wrote

  • @abdulwahidburhani9245
    @abdulwahidburhani9245 4 роки тому +16

    Salaam to all, it was Sidi Abul Hasan as Shadilli ,the founder of the Tariqa Shailillah. He saw goats eating the beans and how eating the beans affected them. He spent most of his day and nights in Mentioning Allah, (Zikr) , and it helped him to stay awake. Thanks for the videos

  • @Haexz1
    @Haexz1 4 роки тому +110

    During the 18th/19th centuries in the UK the drinking of tea and coffee was pushed quite heavily by the religious authorities to get people away from drinking beer during the day and while working. This also played into the idea of the Protestant work ethic where northern European protestants were more productive than the southern European Catholics because they drank tea/coffee which helped with work while Catholics drank beer and wine (a stereotype which lives on today).

    • @zoyablake9538
      @zoyablake9538 4 роки тому +2

      Thank you!

    • @ryanackerman8622
      @ryanackerman8622 2 роки тому

      @haexz1 This is fascinating, and I would love to learn more! Do you know of any good sources that go further into this?

  • @TheEsotericaChannel
    @TheEsotericaChannel 4 роки тому +13

    No idea why this came up in my feed - considering it's unlisted - but such solid work and also famously also applicable to Jewish Mysticism, i.e., kabbalah, as well. Mazel tov on your wedding, much appreciation for you and you work, brother!

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 роки тому +7

      That is strange indeed, seems to be only you! I've heard others mention the kabbalah connection too! Not surprising that different people used coffee for the same effects.
      Thank you very much 😊

  • @hemanbhojwani3333
    @hemanbhojwani3333 4 роки тому +24

    While I consider myself Agnostic, I really enjoy watching all of your videos as they are so educational and rather objective. Thank you so much for doing what you do!

    • @jansalomin
      @jansalomin 2 роки тому +2

      I think its sad that the study of religion is thought to be only by the religious

  • @siractewolde5908
    @siractewolde5908 3 роки тому +9

    It IS again the Ethiopian who we're lucky to find Coffee in the Village called Kaffa in Ethiopia. The People find Out of you Bru it with fire it becomes tasty and has its faszinating effect to be awake. As Ethiopia AS an orthodox Christian Land was a worldpower and Hold good relationship to other countries such as Greek, Persian, Yemen and India, the Coffee spread World wide. The Habesha have until today a mystical ceremonie with Coffee called Bunna until today which Last more than hundreds years. The Muslims we're Always Welcome because the Habeshas Christians are very generous and introduced it to them and the Arab World copied it and intregreted it in their culture and Religion AS Well. Maat Salam, may the Lord Bless you.🙏🏾☕☕☕

  • @markusarseneault7358
    @markusarseneault7358 4 роки тому +43

    did you say yellow tea? A true tea lover are you? amazing; and yes, the spiritual element of tea is something well documented; I even made a tea poem as an assignment for my sufism class back at McGill: The Tea of Union is not to be cold
    The Tea is not meant to sit
    The steam of love to disappear
    The liquor is a drink, so the Tea is annihilated
    A Cup and leaf is all that’s left
    not that good but I saw symbolism in tea drinking and sufism

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 роки тому +10

      Very cool!
      Yes I am somewhat of (newbie) tea nerd.

    • @erdogane.8045
      @erdogane.8045 3 роки тому +5

      A westener studying sufism at university level? Wow! Very interesting and beautiful...

  • @abdallahomar7436
    @abdallahomar7436 4 роки тому +78

    I'm from Ethiopia and coffee from Ethiopian highland is the one of the best coffee i have tested

    • @ibrahimkhatib6191
      @ibrahimkhatib6191 3 роки тому +1

      I second that opinion

    • @samnatt248
      @samnatt248 3 роки тому

      The one that grows on the yemeni mountains is the best in the world.

  • @jaqenhghar3572
    @jaqenhghar3572 4 роки тому +16

    You deserve a lot more views and likes,

  • @barca29np
    @barca29np 4 роки тому +17

    Great video. In Morocco we tend to drink tea a lot more. We call it attay. It is used in practices of tasawwuf. Marijuana was also used in some areas as well even being eaten or added to food.

  • @halawa_7
    @halawa_7 2 роки тому

    Your content is consistently fascinating.

  • @azadehamighi9608
    @azadehamighi9608 3 роки тому

    you are most intelligent soft spoken person and I love all your videos and be honest with with you I mediated with your voice!! thanks for all your hard work.

  • @saifullahbaloch5052
    @saifullahbaloch5052 4 роки тому +6

    You are doing an amazing job , well-done and keep it up , really very helpful.❤️

  • @texanfilms
    @texanfilms 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. You’ve got a real knack for communicating effectively. Keep em coming!

  • @jamesstevenson7725
    @jamesstevenson7725 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for the information on Tea's connection with Buddhism

  • @adrianaslund8605
    @adrianaslund8605 4 роки тому +13

    Imagine how fantastic coffee must have seemed to a north european farmer.
    In Sweden before coffee was introduced it was common to have a drink of strong alcohol to help you deal with your workday. Which ofcourse has very undesirable sideeffects.
    But here comes a drink that seems practically ideal for the purpose of reinvigorating the body and mind to work harder physically.
    With generally mild side effects.
    Its very heavily roasted in scandinavia for some reason.
    Maybe it stayed fresh longer that way and people assumed that the harsh bitterness was a sign of potency.
    Bitterness was associated with medicinal qualities after all.
    The ethiopian Arabica coffee ive tried seems generally much fresher and fruiter in taste. And also quite potent.

    • @EliAbramzon
      @EliAbramzon 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/mAPG18zNtXk/v-deo.html

    • @tommerenator
      @tommerenator 10 місяців тому

      Look up specialty coffee. There is a fantastic specialty scene in Scandinavia, and "Nordic roast" is actually the lightest roast you can get😅

  • @christiangnosis4019
    @christiangnosis4019 4 роки тому +37

    And it´s still used like the Sufis used it, not just by Sufis either, which is really interesting. Especially in mystic communities and scholarly communities. It seems, and pardon my wilder theorizing, that caffeine is most useful to the Scholars and Mystics (which is far from a drawn line, rigorous religious study and mysticism often do go hand in hand). For example, where I live, I´ve seen Islamic groups, both on more and less orthodox end, use it to stay awake through the 1st and 5th daily prayer. Religious Jews doing scriptural study at the cafes is not uncommon, I don´t know if there´s any local Kabbalah practitioners, but from non locals, I know coffee is popular with them for the long study of more hidden meanings of the Torah. I, personally, as a Christian with Mystic leanings and an interest in discerning fact from falsehood in the Nag Hammadi find, am quite reliant on caffeine for late studies. Been studying Hus recently, which has been amazing, but late night studies often require a bit of Coffee, as I tend to stay up to the point of messing with my sleeping patterns, due interest in and the importance of the material.

    • @MB-tb6jy
      @MB-tb6jy 3 роки тому +2

      That is interesting...

    • @belteshazzarbenyakovleib1071
      @belteshazzarbenyakovleib1071 3 роки тому +1

      Yes I practice Kabbalah my own teacher would not teach until he had finished two cups of coffee , I drink quite a bit of it and am consistently in study

    • @belteshazzarbenyakovleib1071
      @belteshazzarbenyakovleib1071 3 роки тому +1

      Midnight and sunrise a quite auspicious times for study and teaching

    • @monus782
      @monus782 3 роки тому

      @@belteshazzarbenyakovleib1071 I’m not Jewish but I’ve had a bit of exposure to the religion and one of the things the holiday of Shavuot is mostly associated with, or so I’m told, is studying texts all night and if so do they also drink coffee in that time to stay awake?

  • @hectormiranda7553
    @hectormiranda7553 2 роки тому

    Fascinating presentation. Thank you

  • @rhodaseptilici3816
    @rhodaseptilici3816 3 роки тому

    Tha you for your talks they are wonderful. Congratulations. Happy holidays and a blessed New Year!

  • @muurishawakening
    @muurishawakening 4 роки тому

    Great information about the history of coffee and tea. Thank you very much. Really appreciate you and your channel.

  • @nicoantuna
    @nicoantuna 4 роки тому +2

    Great video! I love hearing about the overlap of cultural practices and religion

  • @karengomez7133
    @karengomez7133 Рік тому

    Love your content ❤

  • @afghanistanable
    @afghanistanable 2 роки тому +1

    As Rumi would say: Don’t go back to sleep. The king of love has secrets to tell you, don’t go back to sleep. Hence coffee.

  • @mussaratlotia3980
    @mussaratlotia3980 4 роки тому

    Very interesting information. Your videos are fantastic

  • @kmmmsyr9883
    @kmmmsyr9883 3 роки тому +7

    There is a saying in Turkey: "Kahve Yemen'den gelir" (Coffee comes from Yemen)
    Ironically enough, Ottomans banned coffee several times (yes, Turkish coffee was banned in Turkey), 2 most recognizable bans are: by Shaykh al-Islām Ebussuud Efendi, during the reign of Suleiman the Magnificent and by Murad IV (legends say that Murad IV walked in the streets of Istanbul secretly and executed whomever he caught drinking coffee or alcohol by his own hands)
    When Turks lost the famous 2nd Siege of Vienna in 1683, they also brought the coffee culture to Austria, and Vienna became the center of coffee houses around the world.
    Turkish coffee culture btw declined because of coffee bans by the Ottomans and import of tea and western coffee. Today, we drink more coffee than Brits and probably any other nation, for example my father drinks more than 10 glasses of tea in a day and my mother drinks tea instead of water (yes, I'm worrying for them), but I'm the only one who drinks coffee daily in the family.

  • @johnmutuku6878
    @johnmutuku6878 4 роки тому +4

    Coffee went to Yemen as it was an Ethiopian province, it was also brewed in Ethiopia for centuries.Ethiopia in many aspects can be vowed as the cradle of Islam and the other Abrahamic beliefs systems

  • @PathOfAvraham
    @PathOfAvraham 4 роки тому +22

    "Coffee, Coffeehouses, and the Nocturnal Rituals of Early Modern Jewry" by Dr. Elliot Horowitz is a fascinating peak into a parallel phenomenon in later Judaism.

  • @tabrazbaloch
    @tabrazbaloch 4 роки тому +5

    These Middle Eastern paintings are very beautiful.

    • @co2_os
      @co2_os 3 роки тому +1

      Ikr, I just can't imagine how much art was lost due to extremism or war then and even recently. It just hurts to think about.

  • @wolvesarecoming022
    @wolvesarecoming022 Рік тому

    The only channel I ever put a notification

  • @shadbakht
    @shadbakht 4 роки тому +59

    Fun fact: tea is “cha” in Chinese, as most other nations pronounce a derivative of it.
    But the English word “tea” comes from the Minan and Hakka pronunciation of tea which is “Teh”.

    • @MH-ln6pv
      @MH-ln6pv 4 роки тому +3

      Oooh, I'm going to use that to sound smart. I'll have to tome it right though. Did they say anything about scones?

    • @Daradajee
      @Daradajee 4 роки тому +3

      Most countries either use derivatives of the Mandarin Cha or the Hakka Teh.

    • @andrij3078
      @andrij3078 4 роки тому +1

      We call it teh also in indonesia, clearly it comes from hakka

    • @almostsagar
      @almostsagar 4 роки тому +3

      In hindi, we call it "chai".

    • @zohah3795
      @zohah3795 4 роки тому +3

      In punjabi we say as in chinese "cha"

  • @firtlast1571
    @firtlast1571 4 роки тому +1

    Very useful channel .

  • @hassanabdikarimmohamed2505
    @hassanabdikarimmohamed2505 4 роки тому +3

    It was Somali traders who were the important link between the Ethiopian farmers of coffee and the Yemeni market during Ottoman control, Somali traders were the ones who moved coffee into Ottoman yemen

  • @chrisatteridge
    @chrisatteridge 3 роки тому

    Really enjoyed this one

  • @paatacha
    @paatacha 2 роки тому +1

    I find it hard to exist without coffee , but now I know that this supports my spirituality:))))))))☕

  • @TrueHealth27
    @TrueHealth27 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this! Very interesting! Along these lines, I noticed you have yet to cover Buddhism as a general 'What Is' topic on your channel. Given all the various others you've covered, I'm curious as to why. Thanks.

  • @scottleary8468
    @scottleary8468 4 роки тому +5

    I love coffee and tea so much that it makes me happy to find out that these two beverages are condsidered by some to be 'divine' and 'mystical'! This is awesome!

    • @scottleary8468
      @scottleary8468 3 роки тому

      @ملقرت ملك صور
      It's spelled 'divine,' not 'devine.' And the tea that I drank at the restaurant this afternoon was definitely 'divine.' It tasted 'divine'!

  • @thornsilverhollysong1715
    @thornsilverhollysong1715 3 роки тому +2

    Really loved this video, as both a fan of coffee and a mystic in my own religion (devotional polytheism under the Pagan umbrella). I love the idea of practicing a vigil of devotion and communion with the Divine while drinking coffee! (I was drinking it while watching this in fact.) Thanks for educating us on this topic. :)

  • @whootoo1117
    @whootoo1117 4 роки тому +12

    Coffee is originally from modern day Ethiopia, which was Adal, Efat and Bale kingdoms. They were all cushite muslim kingdoms (Oromo, somali, Afar etc) and major city was Harrar. The origin of urban usage of coffee is from this city. In terms of different types of usage of coffee is still relevant. It's used as snacks in popcorn, beans and fried in sesam oil. That oil itself is used on the scull when a bit warm. It gives a quick effect. Brewing and drinking is the one popular. But coffee beans shell is also used as lighter drink and friendlier than coffee and thee called Hashar. Cities Berbera and Zeila was the first cities exported to arab countries and to Ottoman turkey, egypt and the world. Both cities did these facilities until 1930s or even later. But now alot is exported through Djibouti or airplanes. The truth is that coffee was a sufi thing and they used for work, memorizing, reading and being awake. This culture was minimized because of change of dynamics, ethnic conflicts, religious wars,resource fighting and wars, draughts and cut of supply.
    That's it. Thanks

    • @samnatt248
      @samnatt248 3 роки тому

      Coffee also grows in Yemen on the mountains in a wild form.. it is native to Yemen as well. The hight of the mountains coupled with the winds from the ocean provide optimal conditions for its growth

  • @imanmouhab5407
    @imanmouhab5407 4 роки тому +5

    I thought coffee originally comes from the Arab world, specifically Yamen. and that’s why coffee companies call good quality coffee 100% Arabica !!!. Where originally is brought from. Also even the mocha coffee style; is named on the Mocha port in yemen; spelled in Arabic (ميناء موخا); where coffee used to be shipped from, and distributed to the rest of the world hundreds of years ago. ottomanEmpire used to brag about the coffee-and serve it to their royal guests as a sign of generosity and well- guest courtship.

  • @jaytomioka3137
    @jaytomioka3137 3 роки тому +1

    Matcha, ground green tea 🍵 was associated with Zen Buddhism for deep meditation and mystical trance states.

  • @judithtaylormayo
    @judithtaylormayo 2 роки тому

    Very intereting.. I wonder if you would give a talk on the different head dresses that are worn in the area. From a one rectangular shaped cotton cloth, to one with a kind of rope, then we can go into turbins, some small and there are varey in sizes all the way up to some extreemly exagerated ones . Thank you.

  • @kevinrombouts3027
    @kevinrombouts3027 4 роки тому +2

    Loved this. News to me.

  • @someguy1000009
    @someguy1000009 4 роки тому +3

    Extremely interesting

  • @razielcorvin427
    @razielcorvin427 4 місяці тому

    Amazing

  • @zurozuro7169
    @zurozuro7169 3 роки тому +1

    Looking forward to a video for mistical use of cannabis

  • @temesgentsion7113
    @temesgentsion7113 3 роки тому

    In Ethiopia there is a book written by one Monk who rights coffee as referred by ethiopians as bunna came from the word Bunn who was some kind of Wich or sorcerer who leaved in Ethiopia and was worshipped by the locals. He latter died and where he was berried they find these tree has grown the next day after they berried him the tree has already ripped and was ready to be drunk. The book states the people started to drink coffee as a religious ceremony by locals and until recently (some still do) people make a strong point about coffee ceremony where some kind of food is served with it and the food is thrown on the ground around the coffee for some kind of being ( usually now a days people just trough popcorn for decoration and because it has now became a capture ) usually named "adbare". The book at last prohibits Cristians from drinking it and specially forbids (the church still adhere to these) throwing foods around the coffee ceremony.

  • @sustaingainz7856
    @sustaingainz7856 Рік тому

    I like the idea of the tea ceremony as a zen meditative practice. Dis sufis apply a similar degree of ceremony to the brewing of coffee?

  • @kfwimmer
    @kfwimmer 2 роки тому

    Really really interesting.

  • @سلمانقتل
    @سلمانقتل 4 роки тому +3

    👍 good video

  • @majmulBahrain67
    @majmulBahrain67 4 роки тому +8

    Great video! I knew coffee came from Yemen/ Horn of Africa region but I never knew it was associated with Sufi groups

  • @Giantcrabz
    @Giantcrabz 4 роки тому +2

    Great video as always. Small tip though, "irregardless" is not a real word.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 роки тому +3

      Huh... you're right! Must be some unconscious thing I do. Thanks for pointing it out!

  • @WolfgangKLX
    @WolfgangKLX 2 роки тому

    Watching while sipping coffee

  • @Ali-pw1hu
    @Ali-pw1hu 3 роки тому +2

    I have read about Hasish use in the Sufi circles. Notably, a prominent sufi mystic called hashish a 'secret'. Wonder if you could touch upon that.

  •  4 роки тому +1

    Chocolate also has a religious story, since its Aztec origins, until the debate among Catholics about whether it broke fast or not.
    It's "sinful" quality is nearly undeniable, lol.

  • @adrianaslund8605
    @adrianaslund8605 4 роки тому +7

    Japan got into tea when an emperor was hungover and was given tea by a chinese monk. It worked! And the rest is history.

  • @codywurtz6221
    @codywurtz6221 4 роки тому

    I feel like your my lost brother i absolutely love religious history and origins.

  • @mayankpaneri1295
    @mayankpaneri1295 3 роки тому +1

    just wow!

  • @MarcelaBellyDance
    @MarcelaBellyDance 2 роки тому

    Wow! I love this episode thank you 🙏🏽 As a coffee and tea drinker myself this is very inspiring.

  • @3rdKind2
    @3rdKind2 4 роки тому +4

    One of my favorite channels, what do you recommend to start reading Ibn 'Arabi?

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 роки тому +3

      Do you want to read ABOUT Ibn 'Arabi or do you want to read Ibn Arabi himself?

    • @3rdKind2
      @3rdKind2 4 роки тому +1

      @@LetsTalkReligion i want to read Ibn Arabi's works, but some writings ABOUT him is welcome as well

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 роки тому +5

      @@3rdKind2 Hmm.. none of his works are especially easy that I could definitely recommend it as a first. I think the important part is that you get a text with good commentary (if you read an English translation).
      Honestly, you could start with the Fusus al-Hikam. It is his last crowning work and it isn't the easiest text, but it is such a masterpiece and so engaging that it is a good place to start just on that basis, it will inspire you to read more.
      Just don't expect to understand what he is saying without reading it a few times :)
      I would also highly recommend reading the works of some of his followers, who tend to explicate his ideas in simpler ways. Fakhr al-din Araqi's "Lama'at" (Divine Flashes) and Mahmud Shabistari's "Gulshan I-ras" (Rose Garden of Mysteries) are some of the best in that genre.

    • @3rdKind2
      @3rdKind2 4 роки тому +1

      @@LetsTalkReligionThanks

    • @oceanmachine1906
      @oceanmachine1906 4 роки тому +3

      Bezels of Wisdom, it is Ibn Arabi's famous commentary upon the Prophets themselves, from Prophet Adam up to Prophet Muhammad.

  • @muhammedaneesta1718
    @muhammedaneesta1718 3 роки тому

    Read about this in Graves of Tarim by Engsung Ho, a really brilliant work.

  • @ToppaToxic
    @ToppaToxic 2 роки тому

    Coffee was not only chewed but made into a coffee drink pre Yemen, and used in rituals as well

  • @QHawk7
    @QHawk7 3 роки тому +1

    *Yeah, both shrink and block your pineal gland* , they also rise your cortisol , making you tense, thus more susceptible to negative thoughts, negative energy . Humans lived just fine without them for centeries .

  • @jona7200
    @jona7200 4 роки тому

    super dope video!

  • @ABOUCAY
    @ABOUCAY 4 роки тому +3

    Hello, i've discovered your channel few weeks ago, amazing !...Please have you ever heard about african ancien pre-islamique religions ? Specialy related to mandinka empire ? it will be great if you could make a video related to this ancien expression of human spirituality.
    As from my humble knowledge it also an expression of a monothéiste cult... ty

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 роки тому +1

      Hello, thank you :) I'm glad you found your way here! I have heard of it but I don't know that much about it. Would love to explore those topics in a future video though.

  • @johnbarker3673
    @johnbarker3673 4 роки тому

    Bean juice is amazing; having one right now.

  • @ravisekharsridharreddynedu8538
    @ravisekharsridharreddynedu8538 4 роки тому +1

    Brother. Good
    Zen and tea can not be same parated
    I'm India too. Tea Muslims and others
    South India s Madras presidency- erstwhile-- coffee drinking or taking especially Brahmins
    Was fashion now passion
    Previously for fever
    English man s habit
    But from Ethiopia( E opal like that of Australia)
    Arabia-- Sufis-- oh!!!!
    The British forced it s growing in Indonesia-- 4/5 to the government
    Tea& Tibetan yogis to quell thirst too?
    Thank you
    Great vedios on religions and cults

  • @kingdavid6729
    @kingdavid6729 3 роки тому

    Let's Talk could you do a video on the origin of opium?

  • @adminomhfoz1908
    @adminomhfoz1908 4 роки тому +3

    i wonder - is the journey in this channel - changing the direction of your own personal adventure? Or are you taking us on the journey with you?

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 10 днів тому

    A video 📹 on hashish??

  • @IbisLawrence
    @IbisLawrence 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks to the Original African/Ethiopians that knew about it and used it generations before all this. Yes,, conscious humans that are part of this world.

  • @peaceevol
    @peaceevol 3 роки тому

    I just woke up for morning prayers and my first idea is coffee, thanks

  • @julelemaitre
    @julelemaitre Рік тому

    If anyone reads this and is interested in Tea and its philosophy, I highly recommend the book of tea, by Kakuzo

  • @aspenenglish4976
    @aspenenglish4976 3 роки тому

    Wow! Just wow! I’m grateful to belong to a faith that does not use either substance. They’re both actually bad for your body. Herbal tea does have some healing and calming properties that I have no problem with.

  • @CancelledPhilosopher
    @CancelledPhilosopher 3 роки тому +1

    Coffee and tea are associated with Muslim and Buddhist mysticism, and are engines of political revolution. Very interesting.

  • @Nous98
    @Nous98 4 роки тому +5

    Since you've talked about coffee and Sufism now, how about Alcohol and Sufism and in Islamic civilization? I know it is kind of a taboo to talk about alcohol and Islam and can spin out of control to a legalistic/jurisprudence (fiqh) discussion on its permissibility. But as it play a huge part in Sufism (whether literally or metaphorically), I think you should talk about it. If you stick to historical and cultural side and also remain secular and academic, I hope there won't be any problem. Although if you think it will create too much problem to the channel then it is fine too. Btw, great video once again!

    • @PathOfAvraham
      @PathOfAvraham 4 роки тому

      Yes very curious about this as well!

    • @justahumanbeing.709
      @justahumanbeing.709 4 роки тому +2

      good idea, would be interesting to hear about the symbolism of wine in Sufism. 'Dye your prayer mat with wine if your Master asks you too!' - Hafiz.

    • @justahumanbeing.709
      @justahumanbeing.709 4 роки тому +3

      @AutoDriver4000 I agree, I think it's pretty well known that by wine, they meant Divine Love and the intoxication of it.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 роки тому +3

      It will definitely come up in future discussions :)

  • @BlackRose-px2iw
    @BlackRose-px2iw Рік тому

    It were the Ethiopians (Muslims, as well as Christians and Jews) who first developed/created Coffee, and not Arab Muslims, as us often claimen. Arab Muslims simply saw/recognized a good idea and ran with it. :-)

  • @fire.smok3
    @fire.smok3 3 роки тому

    Wow, interesting

  • @akhalif579
    @akhalif579 4 роки тому +1

    Very well again on this. If I may little add, coffee is discovered in Somali region of Harar area at the time of discovery and transport to yemen by the somalis. you can look other researches 13,14/18, centuries Harar and Jima were Adal empire to Aden yemen. So the khat at the same time and used sufis that correct both. currently coffee area Ethiopia influence is in 19 century or named. Thank you.

  • @gabrielfox457
    @gabrielfox457 3 роки тому

    I'm trying to stay off of it right now because caffeine and sugar becomes an addiction, but I can drink coffee or Coca-Cola and get into a trance and do my art or come up with lines of poetry.

  • @ΑλκοολικόςΦιλόσοφος

    ☕️☕️☕️❤️❤️❤️ Coffee is the best gift of god to humanity

  • @craigmiller1870
    @craigmiller1870 3 роки тому +1

    In a similar way that coffee was imported en mass to Europe from the Middle East spurring on original, intellectual, and anti-authority thought, do you think Hashish importation could have also made a big impact on European society, philosophy, and art during the Enlightenment?
    Anyway, this seems like a very big question to ask. I'll do some research on my own too, haha.

  • @mart-juhaneiskop3133
    @mart-juhaneiskop3133 3 роки тому

    i am going to enjoy my turkish coffee after this.

  • @ahmedesfaque3324
    @ahmedesfaque3324 3 роки тому +1

    Just wondering why South-central America is excluded in terms of 'Coffee:Religious Mysticism'.??

    • @samwalker8200
      @samwalker8200 3 роки тому

      I was wondering the same thing with such a rich culture of psychoactive plant use though coffee as a drink is not from the Americas hot chocolate was not sweetened like today's

    • @samwalker8200
      @samwalker8200 3 роки тому

      "The earliest credible evidence of coffee-drinking as the modern beverage appears in modern-day Yemen in southern Arabia in the middle of the 15th century in Sufi shrines where coffee seeds were first roasted and brewed in a manner similar to how it is now prepared for drinking." -wikipedia

    • @samwalker8200
      @samwalker8200 3 роки тому

      "The original domesticated coffee plant is said to have been from Harar, and the native population is thought to be derived from Ethiopia with distinct nearby populations in Sudan and Kenya. Coffee was primarily consumed in the Islamic world where it originated and was directly related to religious practices."

    • @ahmedesfaque3324
      @ahmedesfaque3324 3 роки тому

      @@samwalker8200 I still believe that the history is being distorted by some means. If you trace human origin 'theory', so far it would lead you to Africa or (Perhaps) somewhere in Ethiopia. Islamic world is just 1500 years or so. We basically follow the history or (theories of anything) that has been written or dictated by the way 'west' wants. Thus it doesnt make sense. Pre-colombian, or mayan or Aztecs whatever was out there , they were advanced in cultivating agros and knew well their plants and nature, lived harmoniously.

  • @Quantumanandha
    @Quantumanandha 3 роки тому +1

    Psychedelic Herb 🔥

  • @kenoohki
    @kenoohki 6 місяців тому

    Now I want a cup of either. Lol

  • @turtlefromthenorth
    @turtlefromthenorth 3 роки тому

    I still have a suspicion the discovery and first use of tea and coffee was more direct and less of a spiritual affaire, and still just a beverage along side any meditation or spiritual exaltation.

  • @abccba9483
    @abccba9483 4 роки тому +1

    Question what do you believe in

  • @rajaeelastname4878
    @rajaeelastname4878 4 роки тому

    I read in a few articles that Coffee was indeed considered to be haram by some scholars in the Islamic world.

  • @BlackRose-px2iw
    @BlackRose-px2iw Рік тому

    The best Coffee is still made in Ethiopia, and there is still a strong Coffee culture.

  • @kinggreen369
    @kinggreen369 4 роки тому

    Your great incarnation contempory human society comes closer thru you global

  • @KY-te4mn
    @KY-te4mn 2 роки тому

    @ 5:37 , I think now I know what Donald Trump meant with his 2017 Tweet that just said Covfefe or something similar lol which no body understood and confused a lot of people at time . I could be wrong but it’s interesting

  • @fretnesbutke3233
    @fretnesbutke3233 Рік тому

    If not used habitually, caffeine can be a very psychoactive drug.

  • @david_oliveira71
    @david_oliveira71 Рік тому

    Fun fact about coffee: we lose salt, potassium, and a little calcium and magnesium when drinking coffee

  • @samnatt248
    @samnatt248 3 роки тому

    Coffee is native to Yemen, it grows there wildly

  • @richidpraah
    @richidpraah 3 роки тому +1

    All great drugs seem to come to us by way of experiential religious practice

  • @noone3992
    @noone3992 Рік тому

    Didn't Ethiopian warriors chew coffee beans with animal fat before battle?

  • @yunusmatta8432
    @yunusmatta8432 3 роки тому

    we call it buun in somali

  • @dakrontu
    @dakrontu 4 роки тому +2

    I have avoided caffeinated drinks for many years because they cause irregular heartbeats. Coffee is also a diuretic. I have seen plenty of people who cannot function without tanking themselves up on coffee in the morning. They are hooked on it. It is mildly addictive, which reinforces the need for it. It probably adversely affects their driving, makes them more argumentative, etc. It also impacts their ability to sleep.
    .
    But I can say that I am a much calmer person without caffeine. I prefer not having my mind affected by it. I see other people getting into frantic activity with it, unable to relax. And yet they can come out of this within a few days, easily enough, if they care to try.
    .
    I can understand why people will ascribe magical or mystical properties to a drug, not having a clue about its chemical basis, or the fact that it has nothing whatsoever to do with spirituality or contact with a deity. This is the kind of historical social development one can inevitably expect. Same as people chewing chat, smoking opium, getting themselves into fruitless alternative mental states by repeating phrases till they end up in a trance-like stupour, drinking alcohol that robs them of their mental finesse, or whatever. Pointless time-wasting balls-and-chains that people saddle themselves with in life, when they could be free.
    .
    I have no need of caffeine, I am able to function perfectly well without it, I feel less stressed-up, more inner calm. But I am not unique, I am just an ordinary person, so the same inevitably applies to other people too. It's not my business to tell people whether to drug themselves with caffeine or not, but unless they stop using it, they are never going to learn the benefits of freedom from it.
    .
    I am an Aspie. As such, I am sensitive to irritating distracting sensory inputs from intoxicants in the environment. Scents. Smokes. Sprays. Pungent liquids like coffee. Vapours from aromatic compounds and alcohols. For me, freedom from such inputs is more important than for NTs (Neurotypical people). Perhaps that explains my attitude.
    .
    But I think a lot of people would benefit from such freedom if they could be bothered to investigate. Which means they need to figure out that they have been duped if they think that any of these intoxicants have a net benefit. But most won't. Like people who associate alcohol consumption with having fun, when the connection is tenuous, and it comes down to an attitude of mind, but they will never find that out. They are victims of sophisticated advertising practices that enslave so many people and have done for over a century. Or victims of cultural and religious practices going back millennia.

    • @robertmacdonald5496
      @robertmacdonald5496 3 роки тому +1

      Strange that you don't mention the circulatory and exercise-related benefits of moderated caffeine consumption.

    • @tanko.reactions176
      @tanko.reactions176 2 роки тому

      > Same as people chewing chat, smoking opium, getting themselves into fruitless alternative mental states by repeating phrases till they end up in a trance-like stupour, drinking alcohol that robs them of their mental finesse, or whatever. Pointless time-wasting balls-and-chains that people saddle themselves with in life, when they could be free.
      most ignorant thing i have read in quite some time...

  • @marionetta4658
    @marionetta4658 3 роки тому

    Man! We owe so much to the Islamic culture; Coffee, Guitars, Chess, Algebra and Shakira!