I have BTJ one of my 2 dynasty leagues and I wouldn’t trade BTJ for Marv straight up! I’d rather have BTJ. If I were anyone I would trade marv to get BTJ in a heartbeat
I don't get the continued low Amon-ra rankings, just generally, even my league. He's scored more per game than Puka and Nico, both this year and last year, both in standard and PPR.
Great video guys! As a former JSN owner and now Marv owner I don’t know how to feel😂 1QB start 7, traded JSN and the now 1.06 for MHJ. This was week 6 before the JSN breakout…. How stupid am I ???? Thanks guys for all you do for the community! Block out the haters!
Ha haters are welcome, the algorithm doesn’t discriminate in the comment section…and naw I don’t think that was a terrible trade, lost a little value but like the Marv aquisish
I’m in a five keeper league. Jonathan Taylor, Brian Thomas, and Drake London are locks. What two should I keep between Chris Olave, DK Metcalf and Rashee Rice?
@@TheFFDynasty Ended up going Kendre- who scored 4.1 to Doubs 3 in HPPR. Luckily GB D did the heavy lifting for the W. Thanks for getting back to me & Merry Christmas!
Marv isn’t on pace for 1k and 10… he would have to go off in the last two games to hit that. At this point he’s an average WR 2 with high end WR 2 upside. That’s not to say he can’t improve but to put him in a tier with guys like puka and arsb is idiotic.
i was one of those that traded Chase for Nabers. my season was cooked with a 1-5 start. i think Nabers has the potential to reach that Chase mark, especially with how much volume he gets
Yea we were telling people to try and buy Chase or JJ during that ridiculous 3 week span from Nabers…no shade at Nabers just have some guys still over him
I’m a little late to the video but I’m a little lower on BTJ for this offseason and it’s mostly because the draft scares me. Some mocks have them taking Travis Hunter and egbuka. Could end up with a crowded wr room in a hurry…. Not hating on BTJ but I’m not paying the premium for him rn because of that threat.
@ 😂 I wish I was higher on him last offseason because I would have drafted him more in rookie drafts. I do understand the hype but some people really have him as a top 6 dynasty wr and I’m just not willing to pay anything near that lol
I have Marv so I really hope yall are right with him. McBride just really seems like the guy there and Marv just doesn’t have the athleticism to warrant him getting fed easy short catches designed for YAC. I’m no film guy but just based on what I’ve seen. He’s a stud player but looking at the top 2 tiers only Nico is a real deal X receiver. Are you worried that receivers who don’t get moved around the formation have shown lower ceiling(Top 3 WR) hit rates as of recently?(IMO)
For the record I still think he should be considered a top 10 WR for now. Although I could definitely see that plummet if next year looks exactly like this year
Some people seem to get mad about your opinions for having people one tier lower or higher than them, i would have btj in tier two and rice at the bottom of tier 3 maybe move up jsn in tier 3 a little, but that my opinion and im a cooperate worker that doesn't make money from this so i think i have less skin in the game than you guys, keep up the great content
@ Yeah I love your guys channel, y’all convinced me to draft Ladarius McCocky with my 1.10 pick this year. I’m betting on the talent with Jeudy, his PFF grades are really solid and is currently WR13 in Half PPR. A lot of managers are sleeping on him and considering him a great buy low, if you can get him as your WR4-5 for 2025 you’re in a good spot.
AmonRA > Nico purely on volume alone. having Nabers and MHj over BTj is actually laughable. Both have equal or better QB play for most of the year yet BTj still manages to do more with less.
@@TheFFDynasty shouldn’t that then point to moving MHJ down then since his QB is locked in? Yeah there will be some positive regression, but maybe he just is what he is. Not a volume player, relies on TDs.
You don’t think JSN is as good as Odunze? At what point? In college he was better, as a prospect he was better and in the NFL he’s better. You both know nothing about this stuff, impossible to listen to. Clown take.
@theroll07😂bro what? Garrett Wilson himself said JSN was the best WR on OSU while they were teammates. You think Odunzhe is a better prospect than Wilson?!
@@TheFFDynastymy comment was harsh. But some of these takes make no sense. You’re not looking at current body of work… JSN and BTJ are putting up elite production and both need to be tier 2.
great video, if we are going by 2024 alone Harrison and Brian Thomas need to be flopped. Harrison drops too many balls and players smaller than his size.
Rome has the same numbers as Marv, look it up. And he's doing it with other alphas in the room. And that's not counting how dominant BTJ has been. You gotta stop smokin that Marv crack. You have to adjust. Can't trust any of these rankings after that.
We’ve always been big F1 fans, but it took him til he was 30 to get a good QB and in dynasty it’s hard to place a 30yr old too high because the falloff you know is somewhere around the corner. No disrespect to Terry but age too much of a factor in dynasty
Somewhat in our defense this was recorded last Saturday so 2 games have been played since then (which he obviously slayed) but yea we’re very aware that everyone is real mad about BTJ ha
All these keyboard warriors in here thinking its a wrap on MHJ career already. Well go and trade him for a 2nd and see how that goes for ya. Not all players jump into the nfl and kill it. Look at JSN starting to figure it out now too after people thought he was hot trash.... Wish i could be in your leagues
Lol. Cmon Man look at the comments. Why still so low on BTJ when he's 6th in wr scoring (1/2 point) iplayillafter being limited a couple games with injury. His season has been unreal, why no recognition?
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MHJ above BTJ is HILARIOUS 🤣 Take lock at its finest!
Just asinine!
@ yea these guys suck. Theyll wait another 3 years of Marvin sucking to move him down
It's cuz Marv still holds more value in most communities.
@@bigmike12211then sell marv for BTJ +
@@rzawistowski33 no they still believe MHJ is better… Awful
BTJ belongs in Tier 2. MHJ in Tier 3. Odunze in Tier 4.
@@aarondriskell2950 say it louder!
Big Mike wants them all CAPs!
Completely agree! All good players but for point scoring BTJ is just in a more optimal position.
how have btj and jsn not moved at all in like 2 months. they’re both top 6 recievers below the age of 23
@@hudsonseneca4410 TAKE LOCK!
I mean, go back and watch our last rankings video they have both definitely moved up
The fact your whole comment sections is blasting you about BTJ is a good sign you guys need to look at your own bias.
I’m loving the comment section rn idk about you
@TheFFDynasty It just shows community sentiment on values. What people are willing to pay should be the biggest factor in off-season tiers.
They were so quick to move Rice and Reed up the rankings earlier this year but hesitant to say BTJ is a top 7 dynasty WR lol
We moved BTJ up too
Thomas below Rice is wild when we haven't seen Rice with Worthy and Brown in the lineup
They will never move BTJ above Harrison. Harrison WR 36 on the year and BTJ WR 6. It’s honestly laughable 😂
I hear ya, everyone stays mad at us about BTJ no doubt ha
BTJ will be Tier 1 Next year. Anyone with eyes and common sense can see that
I see channels like this all the time. They love draft capital more than actual results. BTJ over Marv all day!
We’re for sure not the draft capital police
Agreed. mhj was a huge disappointment and doesn't have the athletic ability of btj
Only took Jags top WR and reception hog Te to get injured
No deeper analysis on BTJ? He’s having the best rookie WR stats in his class and all you say is “BTJ looks great….”??
Ha just breezed right by there, luckily for us the comment section has BTJ covered
BTJ is tier 1. Dude makes big plays.
He might be the greatest football player ever
@ lol touchy subject I see 😂
@@William_Stephens 🤣
@TheFFDynasty i know your joking but I really think it could be possible with him as wr
I have BTJ one of my 2 dynasty leagues and I wouldn’t trade BTJ for Marv straight up! I’d rather have BTJ. If I were anyone I would trade marv to get BTJ in a heartbeat
Yea you shouldn’t trade BTJ for MHJ straight up you should get something on top of that for sure
@TheFFDynasty so then why is mhj higher in ur ranks???
How is BTJj not higher than MHJ? You guys put more value on james I guess
I’m blankng, James who?
@@TheFFDynastylol I meant names
Brian Thomas could never hurt me
Well y’all are besties right? so that makes sense ha🍻
so youd send a late first for anyone thru tier 3 ?
For sure, probably even tier 4 especially in 1QB
Im loving the BTJ support in the comments. 😊
I’m here for it 🍿
I don't get the continued low Amon-ra rankings, just generally, even my league. He's scored more per game than Puka and Nico, both this year and last year, both in standard and PPR.
Where would you rank Downs in later tiers? He's had some decent production, but I can't even get a single trade offer for him.
Yea I think Casey said Downs was very close to being in that last tier with Pittman (which he also said people probably wouldn’t like ha)
Great video guys! As a former JSN owner and now Marv owner I don’t know how to feel😂 1QB start 7, traded JSN and the now 1.06 for MHJ. This was week 6 before the JSN breakout…. How stupid am I ???? Thanks guys for all you do for the community! Block out the haters!
Ha haters are welcome, the algorithm doesn’t discriminate in the comment section…and naw I don’t think that was a terrible trade, lost a little value but like the Marv aquisish
@ thank you for the reply! Makes my WR core: Nabers, Marv, and Rice and Downs/Dell. Would you trade 1.02 plus for 1.01? Thanks gentlemen!!
Tell Jason we appreciate it!
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I’m in a five keeper league. Jonathan Taylor, Brian Thomas, and Drake London are locks. What two should I keep between Chris Olave, DK Metcalf and Rashee Rice?
Rashee for sure, could flip a coin between the other two we have DK and Olave in the same tier
Hey guys- down 13.8 in .5 ppr with GB D and can flex either Kendre Miller or Doubs.. who should I flex??
Thank you!!
Hey sorry just catching up on comments, who did you go with?
@@TheFFDynasty Ended up going Kendre- who scored 4.1 to Doubs 3 in HPPR. Luckily GB D did the heavy lifting for the W. Thanks for getting back to me & Merry Christmas!
Marv isn’t on pace for 1k and 10… he would have to go off in the last two games to hit that. At this point he’s an average WR 2 with high end WR 2 upside. That’s not to say he can’t improve but to put him in a tier with guys like puka and arsb is idiotic.
At this point we know what he is but he can also improve, word
Well that’s just like, your opinion man (Lebowski voice)
This show absolutely hates BTJ. Clearly these guys didn’t draft him at all.
We don’t hate him ha
he’s gotta be tier 2 for sure
i was one of those that traded Chase for Nabers. my season was cooked with a 1-5 start. i think Nabers has the potential to reach that Chase mark, especially with how much volume he gets
Yea we were telling people to try and buy Chase or JJ during that ridiculous 3 week span from Nabers…no shade at Nabers just have some guys still over him
@ I managed to get 2 2nds back in that deal as well, makes it feel a little better
I’m a little late to the video but I’m a little lower on BTJ for this offseason and it’s mostly because the draft scares me. Some mocks have them taking Travis Hunter and egbuka. Could end up with a crowded wr room in a hurry…. Not hating on BTJ but I’m not paying the premium for him rn because of that threat.
Well if you don’t think BTJ > Superman then you’re wrong ha (according to our comment section anyways)
@ 😂 I wish I was higher on him last offseason because I would have drafted him more in rookie drafts. I do understand the hype but some people really have him as a top 6 dynasty wr and I’m just not willing to pay anything near that lol
Would you trade Rice & 1.08 for Nico & a 26 2nd or wait?
PUKa ranked like 20th overall WR WHILE MISSING like SIX GAMES!!!! Time to put some respect on his name!!
Tier 2 not enough respect huh?
I have Marv so I really hope yall are right with him. McBride just really seems like the guy there and Marv just doesn’t have the athleticism to warrant him getting fed easy short catches designed for YAC. I’m no film guy but just based on what I’ve seen. He’s a stud player but looking at the top 2 tiers only Nico is a real deal X receiver. Are you worried that receivers who don’t get moved around the formation have shown lower ceiling(Top 3 WR) hit rates as of recently?(IMO)
For the record I still think he should be considered a top 10 WR for now. Although I could definitely see that plummet if next year looks exactly like this year
Yea but we think it will easily turn in the other direction, it’s a good time to buy MHJ
McBride has 92 receptions, and ZERO TDs. No idea how that is even possible. Kyler is the issue, not McBride or Marv.
Mpj?
metatarsophalangeal joint?
I feel like Tank Dell and Jayden Reed are interchangeable. Should see Tank in Tier 5. I’d buy the sophomore dip.
Gonna be an even bigger dip on Tank with that leg injury, might be a little buy window for Reed too
Enjoy the follow up of the junior IR year after a sophomore slump, with a senior slow ramp up
A little short on the Harrison take. 😮
Short?
Maybe u guys should watch a jax game one day and you wont be so off on BTJ
never thought of that 🍻
Some people seem to get mad about your opinions for having people one tier lower or higher than them, i would have btj in tier two and rice at the bottom of tier 3 maybe move up jsn in tier 3 a little, but that my opinion and im a cooperate worker that doesn't make money from this so i think i have less skin in the game than you guys, keep up the great content
Ha yea the ranks really get people fired up that’s for sure, appreciate the love🍻
Watch Jerry Jeudy film breakdown - his route running and separation is top 10 and has great YAC ability.
We’ve been giving Jeudy a solid amount of love this season, can’t squeeze him into the top 24 but still been in in general
@ Yeah I love your guys channel, y’all convinced me to draft Ladarius McCocky with my 1.10 pick this year. I’m betting on the talent with Jeudy, his PFF grades are really solid and is currently WR13 in Half PPR. A lot of managers are sleeping on him and considering him a great buy low, if you can get him as your WR4-5 for 2025 you’re in a good spot.
Garrett Wilson > JSN, not looking good.
I mean it wasn’t like 5 greater than signs tho
AmonRA > Nico purely on volume alone. having Nabers and MHj over BTj is actually laughable. Both have equal or better QB play for most of the year yet BTj still manages to do more with less.
Had a similar convo in prior weeks, if you look at fantasy points data catchable targets BTJ actually has way more catchable targets than MHJ
@@TheFFDynasty shouldn’t that then point to moving MHJ down then since his QB is locked in? Yeah there will be some positive regression, but maybe he just is what he is. Not a volume player, relies on TDs.
You don’t think JSN is as good as Odunze? At what point? In college he was better, as a prospect he was better and in the NFL he’s better. You both know nothing about this stuff, impossible to listen to. Clown take.
If we’re impossible to listen to who are you listening to that’s tolerable?
No way is JSN a better prospect than Odunze, Odunze was a better prospect than a justin Jefferson
@theroll07😂bro what? Garrett Wilson himself said JSN was the best WR on OSU while they were teammates. You think Odunzhe is a better prospect than Wilson?!
@@MosesMal0n3 yeah Odunze was an better prospect than Wilson
@@TheFFDynastymy comment was harsh. But some of these takes make no sense. You’re not looking at current body of work… JSN and BTJ are putting up elite production and both need to be tier 2.
Ladd McConkey is a top 15 dynasty wr
He’s been exciting for sure
great video, if we are going by 2024 alone Harrison and Brian Thomas need to be flopped. Harrison drops too many balls and players smaller than his size.
Yea I mean, playing dynasty we don’t necessarily have to go off previous production alone…we’re just using patience w MHJ
What about Sutton?
Yea we mentioned him briefly at the end as being worthy of a discussion for that last tier for sure
God get Nabers a QB
Can’t get much worse ha
Is 1.03 and chase brown too much to give up to acquire
Marvin harrison?
1qb start 9
definitely would trade that for marv
Yea 1QB for sure
Ugghhh gross!
Not a fan of MHJ I take it
Rome has the same numbers as Marv, look it up. And he's doing it with other alphas in the room. And that's not counting how dominant BTJ has been. You gotta stop smokin that Marv crack. You have to adjust. Can't trust any of these rankings after that.
you got any of that Marv crack mayne? (Aggressively scratches neck)
@@TheFFDynasty I think you guys have enough for the whole class lol
Ladd McConkey should be next to JSN lmao
I traded away Harrison week 2 for Chase and a 2nd 😂
Daaaamn nice
Pittman over downs ?
Yea we’ve just seen Pittman have like 6 straight 1000 yd seasons or something like that you know
@ i understand
TMac getting mad disrespected
We’ve always been big F1 fans, but it took him til he was 30 to get a good QB and in dynasty it’s hard to place a 30yr old too high because the falloff you know is somewhere around the corner. No disrespect to Terry but age too much of a factor in dynasty
BTJ is 6th in the league in wr fantasy points (1/2 pt) and absolutely no respect from you guys
Somewhat in our defense this was recorded last Saturday so 2 games have been played since then (which he obviously slayed) but yea we’re very aware that everyone is real mad about BTJ ha
Brandon Eyeyuck and Ladd McConcrete… cmon guys
Ladd McConcrete? Not sure what you’re watching that dude moves well and is a dog
@ i was quoting you guys on both of those names, buddy with the long hair called him that not me
We love Ladd we would never call him Concrete
@ 30:42
All these keyboard warriors in here thinking its a wrap on MHJ career already. Well go and trade him for a 2nd and see how that goes for ya. Not all players jump into the nfl and kill it. Look at JSN starting to figure it out now too after people thought he was hot trash.... Wish i could be in your leagues
This is a dumb list it has Pittman not downs and top 5 receiver on the year Terry below dj moore and others
Terrys gonna be 30 next year bro. Love scary T but DJ gotta be over him if we looking at a 4 year window
This IS a dumb list for surrrre, rankings in general are kind of dumb tho
Love you guys but you're btj assessment is horrendous
This is the first we’re hearing of this
Lol. Cmon Man look at the comments. Why still so low on BTJ when he's 6th in wr scoring (1/2 point) iplayillafter being limited a couple games with injury. His season has been unreal, why no recognition?
Way too low on Ladd
Which is wild cause we have been so high on him the entire process
Ladd is way too low
How high you got him?
Ladd seems low
Dare I say I even take JSN over BTJ 😱
Ha the people won’t like that🍻
These guys need to find a new job, took me 4 minutes to click off this video
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I STAND WITH FF DYNASTY PODCAST. MARVIN HARRISON, RASHEE, WILSON OVER BTJ ALL DAY. CRY ABOUT IT BTJ BABIES.
Ha it’s all good homie, people really get fired up for the rankings I’m here for it