West of Eden: An Alternative Dinosaur History
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
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West of Eden is the first book of a trilogy that depicts the start of a great and everlasting war between two races: the primitive, humanlike Tanu and the advanced saurian Yilane. Today, I want to take a look at the backstory and novel of West of Eden and cover the events that are sparked by this war between man and beast.
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If you watched this video the whole way through, you are a legend.
I hope you enjoyed this start to what is essentially a miniseries of me covering the West of Eden Trilogy. I'll try to get to the other books soon, but for now, I'm gonna get started on the next episode of the Paleontology Fringe Theories Iceberg, along with some other projects I plan to release next month.
Anyways, I'm writing this comment at like 1am and I'm very tired. Gonna go to sleep now. Thank you all again for watching!
For the next video, you could talk about these other books:
A Sound of Thunder
Meg by Steve Alten
Kronos Rising by Max Mawthorne
Age of Monsters by John Lee Schneider
Vengeance from The Deep by Russ Elliot
End of a Era by Robert J. Sawyer
Dinotopia
Bonehunters ny Harry Turtledove
Z-Rex by Steve Cole
thank you for the video Diego. Already found the audio book; i'm going to listen to it right away (even if the rape scene will no doubt be quite disturbing to listen to)
I think you’d enjoy Tales of Kaimere
No, I have ADHD
This is the one where the Dino Noah didnt let the mammals on the ark!
Bro this book is so unique.
Intelligent tylosaurs that evolved back to be on land is such a good concept.
Much more unique than the generic dromaeosaur.
@@cac_deadlyrang ikr
Found you
@Viking Spirit this novel was made after Godzilla? Or wait did it come before?
They do look a little goofy tho.....
While this book is definately dark and grim, I still feel this series could have potential to be adapted. Either as a Miniseries or a movie trilogy.
Always felt that way, given how things are going, with mind on content etc think it'll be a better series than a movie trilogy
ii feel like this could be a real event.. perhaps going on at another part of this terra earth.. beyond the ice walls 😎💯
If your care for this IP than a movie adaption is the last thing you want
@@mikesnyder3317 Why is that? Because with a movie or a show, it could bring this out of obscurity.
@@TylerRakstis movie companies would care little for the lore other then the very basics. They care about mass appeal and nothing more
In the book, Carek and his father killed a bunch of Yilane babies when they first found them in the beach. The war started out as revenge for the murder of helpless fathers and their children. And then it became an excuse for genocide.
They hate each other instinctually.
Something about that rings out in real life
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*slaps roof of car?*
"This bad boy is a generically modified Psittacosaurus that can go 30 mile an hour"
"But hey, if you're more for the waters, do I have just the vehicle for you!'
*slaps uruketo hull*
I personally would've preferred the Tanu to physically look distinct from humans and actually share morphological traits with new world monkeys, such as having flat noses with nostrils facing the sides or have a prehensile tail.
and the problems start
@@grendel8342huh?
@@topdeckhelix8450 the spec band wagon is coming, with all it's pretentious know-it-alls and connections to the worst parts of political Twitter. A good book is about to be dragged through the proverbial mud by a niche group of annoying people and anyone who enjoyed the book before hand will be treated like shit because of it.
Also if you want that, go look at the paramutan, they are a basal sister species of the tanu seen in the second and third book
@@grendel8342 oh that's cool
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Yalane cashier: enjoy your food
Yalane customer: thanks you too
*Customer immediately seizes up and dies*
Like a weirder, prehistoric themed version of Avatar. In some bizarre alternate history, James Cameron adapted this as his billion dollar earning films.
No James Cameron thought he'd try and make this into a movie and failed and called it Avatar well acting like it was totally a unique idea he came up with. Like James Cameron Avatar sucks 🖕
@@awaren8375 James Cameron ripped off Pocahontas when he made Avatar. This book would confuse Cameron to the point of mental instability.
Avatar is more Fern Gully+ Dances with Wolves. To me anyway.@@Cokehead_Drug_Addict_Zelensky
@@BattleBrotherCasten Watch 'A Man Called Horse' sometime if you haven't already.
He also cribbed the writers Brothers Strugatsky who literally wrote about a hell world called Pandora and how people survived on it
I read this book 20 years ago while backpacking through Guatemala. I found it in one of those gringo book swaps in a foreign owned cafe. There was an amazing amount of weird and obscure sci fi I read on that trip.
Glad to see so many people learn about West of Eden through this vid. The more people to be turned onto Harrison the better. The amount of work that went into realizing the Eden trilogy is nothing short of herculean.
Love him & all the 40's-70's SF authors! Dick LeGuin Anderson Niven etc etc
Getting tremendous Lovecraft inspiration vibes, with the biopunk technology and freakish humanoids that originated from the ocean.
I love it
38:06 I’ve hear this in a few stories like this, where two primitive but intelligent species see each other and have an almost inherent sense that they are proper threats to one another
Like Europeans with natives of America and africa
As a very young child I was molested by a much older female babysitter.
It went on for just over three years and at first I tried to struggle but eventually I started to enjoy it even though it also felt so very wrong and I was ashamed of it.
I sort of developed Stockholm syndrome towards her.
Yet I was also terrified of her because if I did not give her what she wanted she would hurt me.
Not trying to mention all this for sympathy, just that I can definitely relate to how the character reacts to being taken advantage of and struggling with feeling mutual enjoyment, anger, confusion and such.
I was able to get therapy and thankfully this character is not real, but this situation happens so freaking often, it is very upsetting.
We should be more open when talking about abuse, all the different forms it can take, the signs that a person is an abuser, and how to seek help as a victim and be more empathetic towards those victims.
Im sorry to hear that
Sorry to hear that man keep fighting man
I always loved how the Y'Lani travelled across oceans by knocking themselves out with drugs to slow their metabolism, and then climbed inside an ichthyosaur.
No drugs involved. They just went into a state of hibernation by slowing down their metabolism and bodily function. Read the book, it explains everything
Well, I definitely didn't expect the lizard-human sex scene to happen.
What chapter does it happen?
I'm a big HH fan, The Stainless Steel Rat is a great and fun series. Didn't even know he delved into weird Dino alt-history.
Stainless Steel Rat for President is a good one. I don't even know how many he did in the series..
HH, brother
@@rosiehawtrey a lot !!! Good author !
HH brother
Love your videos: always a good source for obscure / forgotten giant monster fiction, dinosaur or otherwise. AND A FEATURE LENGTH ONE TOO! Is there any chance you might give the 1970s films The Last Dinosaur and Legend of the Dinosaurs and Monster Birds a review?
Quite possibly. Those two films have been on my radar for a little while now, but at the moment, I've got several other planned projects to get through first.
Ay it's the man himself
@@DinoDiego16 Cool! Please take you time but looking forward to it regardless!
Haha I watched that late one Saturday night in early 80s,the last movie of the great Richard Boone aka Paladin amongst others,one of the better stage taught method actors of the golden age.
Had we not figured out that new world monkeys descend from old world monkeys by the 80s? And Tylosaurs are such a bizarre choice. And how did Tylosaurs hibernate?
Need to buy these books.
OH MY GOD! This is one of my favorite books!!!!! I used to read this just about every six months. Thanks for covering this book!
Make Room! Make Room! would also become another movie called "Soylent Green".
And later influenced Nightmare Cafe, in Treehouse of Horror.
Soylent Green is made out of people!!!!
I have read the trilogy numerous times and enjoy them immensely.
I would love to see a video on the short film Prehistoric Beast and the documentary "Dinosaur" that came after it. Both made by special effects legend Phil Tippett.
I find the story behind Prehistoric Beast and how it led to Dinosaur very fascinating, so it's definitely a possibility. I'll probably get to it at some point when I don't have a lot of planned content stacked up.
@Dino Diego I also think a video on Disney's Dinosaur would be good. I think the desert migration plot is sort of a callback to the "Rite of Spring" from Fantasia.
Truly the Yalanei of our world are Italians, only they know the gesture and sound sets
Gabba-gu!
Thank you for covering this. I remember this as one of my earliest reads. I loved Harry Harrison' works and thus drifted onto reading this because of that.
Love your long uploads. I put them on while I'm doing chores or in bed to fall asleep too. Great content as always
I just wanna say thank you so much for introducing me to this, I'm now half way through 3/3 of the Eden trilogy after not having read books for fun in FOREVER and I've fallen so in love with this series.
The way they breed other animals to be their tools reminds me of the tool breeders from All tomorrows in a way.
This was the first proper novel I ever read as a kid and totally shaped me and my career, so learning Harrison was in comics as well just made my day. This was awesome, thankyou.
Some elements of this story kinda reminds me of the original Planet of the Apes. Kerrick's initial treatment from the Ylane mirrors Charleton Heston's, the Ylane's arrogance and xenophobia reminds me of Dr. Zaius and the other apes, a sole Ylane being friendly to Kerrick is like Doctors Zira and and Cornelius being supporting to Heston's character, and the basic premise of humans being a "inferior" species to an unconventional "superior" species. I can't be the only one who sees it, right?
PLANET OF THE APES
is a rip off to this
@@piglin469 Ahhh no, try the other way around. Apes predates this by 16 years.
@@Harldin OHHH I am STUPID
@@piglin469 We all make mistakes, Harry probably took some inspiration from Apes
@@Harldin Yeah. Imagine if the tanu at least had metalurgy
I read these books when I was growing up and absolutely loved them
Really good Listen, i enjoyed this alot. i would probably never read the trillogy but it nice to have you cover it so I can at least be aware of its existance and content.
I remember reading this series about 25 years ago. One of the things that really stuck with me was the combination of vocal/visual cues for language and as well as the biotechnology used . Great call back;
Ooh, I think I had one of these books as a kid. Real old school sci fi, I remember a glossary devoted to the lizardmen's body language and a scene where two explorers find a tribe of male reptilian "Amazons" when one warrior flashes his genitals at them in a show of force.
My sister in law gave me this book on my 23 bday;) ...I took it to a busy philly laundromat and escaped reality🦖that was a looong time ago♡still special to me 40 years later✌
This was an amazing, great job with descriptions too! I hope to see what you come out with next for these books
I remember absolutely loving this book when I was younger, and I’m so glad to see it get featured in one of your videos!
Can't wait for your reading and thoughts on book 2 -3, Great content Sir. Keep up the great work!
This was friggin awesome. You should definitely do the rest.
Holy shit this is basically a full length feature, awesome!
Everytime I read these books, the story always seems to hit me like a fever dream.
Oh wow I read this, but over 20 years ago! I can’t wait to see what I remember and what I forgot.
This story would make a one hell of a game
I didn't know about return to Eden so thank you. Have the other two as well as Harrison's wheelworld and deathworld series, stainless steel rat books and the first bill the galactic hero, make room make room (filmed as soylent green) as well as some of his other alternate history novels. His insights into the human condition often seem to be prophetic and horrifically accurate.
You know, we always see stories about what life would be like if dinosaurs never went extinct.
But I think the real question we should be asking is,
*What if dinosaurs never existed in the first place?*
The world would be a very boring and sad place, that's for sure.
@@DinoDiego16 BIG LIZARDS WHATS BORING ABOUT THAT
Some other genera would have taken their place as the dominant group, perhaps synapsids/stem mammals.
The Permian Extinction never happens, dinosaurs evolve but never become as dominant as they ended up being would make for an interesting timeline.
@@swagmund_freud6669 Pseudosuchians of Triassic convergently evolved the same bodyplans as later dinosaurs like theropod like poposaurs or even ankylosaur like Ornithosuchus. I think its safe to say if Triassic extinction and dinosaurs were not a issue they would not only takeover but evolve in similiar way to dinosaurs we know.
This sounds like an interesting series, first contact experiences have really a lot of problems and this book captures well.
Man this story is incredible! I can't wait for you to cover the sequels!
i've read the whole trilogy and have been a fan my entire life, while i love that theres a video over this universe now i can't help but be a little worried now. Mostly because i can't wait to just be told to shut up in any online discussion now because of the band wagon thats going to come from this. There are three other races of tanu and one closely related subspecies by the way, for those of you wanting more "new world monkey" looking descendance look up the Paramutan. The paramutan share a lot of their descriptive features with their ancestors, most likely a more basal genus as a whole if not just a basal species.
Honestly this would make a great Table Top War Game setting.
I remember reading the books back in college, and really haven't run into anything like them since. Such a fantastic concept! Thanks for the trip down memory lane. On a similar note, anyone intrigued by these works might want to check out the "Silurian Hypothesis", a paper written by some NASA scientists on the possibility of an industrial civilization existing sometime in deep history, and what it would take to detect it. It is surprisingly plausible when one considers just how fast almost everything we have now would be consumed by nature if we weren't around to keep it going, and over geologic time even the more durable things would be weathered or subsumed by geologic processes. Human civilization takes up the barest fraction of the Earth's history, and the ratio of fossils found to creatures that lived is so incredibly low (due to the very unusual circumstances that have to occur to create a fossil). It really is conceivable that intelligent dinosaurs or something else could have existed and had a civilization for a brief few thousand years before wiping themselves out or something, and we would not have detected it yet.
niven's et al Shipstar has this as a plot element
I’ve only read the first book which I thought was amazing with the geneering nd stuff, I’ve read a few of his other books , also good another from around the same time is Harry turtledove’s world war in the balance trilogy another cool book ! Thank you for the video mate very wel done !!!
I...
LOVE
ALTERNATE HISTORY
**Snuggles back into his chair and pops open a bag of popcorn**
I read this series in the 80s while in the Navy overseas. Loved it and now I'm 62 and searching for it.
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WHAT THE?!
are you sure the Yilane didn't just modify themselves to look as they do now?
I'm 62, reading sci fi and much else from very early. This one was read long ago, barely remembered. Another similar themed dinosaurian smart plot is a series something like "the destroyermen." A WW I US Navy destroyer somehow ends up in such a world, adventures ensue. The writing is actually good! Back to Harrison - yes, his "living tools" concept was really interesting. This vid has prompted me to recall much from long ago. I now plan to re-read this, so thanks,
Very cool! I read this as a kid, didn't realize it was a trilogy. Also I didn't make the connection between these and the Stainless Steel Rat books.
Thanks for covering this. I found the first book at a Walden Books -- remember those? -- and gave it a try, but . . . nah. Not my goblet of mead. There was a scene in there that made me just put it down and never go back to it. Yick.
Yeah, this story definitely has a moment or two that makes you question your life choices. All questionable scenes aside, I still very much enjoyed every other aspect of this book.
2:15 this is on my TBR, I'll read it next then come back asap. lol :)
For anyone into the sci fi/alternative history genre I would highly recommend the West of Eden trilogy. It's brilliant
listened to the whole thing in one go lol you had me at the thumbnail. some background music would have been nice though, it was the one thing i felt was conspicuously missing tbh
Surprisingly epic!! 🦖🦕🦎🐊Great introductory data and Thanks for this audionarrative review!! It really gives to be adapted into an animated series, Graphic Novel Comic or movie! It would be Brutal!!👏🤩I can't wait for more!! Thanks a lot!! Splendid work!!😍👍
Back in 1985, CBS had a special about dinosaurs, hosted by the late Christopher Reeve. He said that Canada's Royal Tyrell Museum did a thought experiment about a hypothetical Earth where the dinosaurs never died but evolved into humanlike beings called dinosaureans. At the time, the syndicated cartoon Dino Riders, was on the air, and it was about humans and aliens being taken back in time an Earth of sixty-five million years ago, where the dinosaurs still roamed. More recently, there was a movie called The Good Dinosaur, which asked the question: "What if the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs missed?"
I WAS gonna watch this, but since the topic of the book is very similar to one I'm writing and it sounds rad as fuck, I definitely want to read it first and it's near the top of my backlog now. See you in however many weeks/months it takes me to get around to it and keep finding awesome shit to read!
Glad to hear that! I'd definitely recommend experiencing it yourself first. Hope you end up enjoying it!
The Yulane? (Hope that's correct spelling) They sound very similar to the Seraphon or "Lizardmen" from Warhammer! Look them up if you haven't already, I'm sure you'd like their lore.
I loved these books, surprised to see someone actually feature them.
The Yilane reminds me of the Toob Breeders and Temptors from All Tomorrows
Yeah, they definitely have an All Tomorrows vibe to them. Wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the things that inspired it.
Esperanto was meant to be a "common and shared secondary laguage" for everyone on the planet.
Living tech is so cool, I wish my car was some kind of giant snail
Mine is !!! Ha ha
For a future video maybe you should do one about dinosaurs in anime
Love this entire concept! I read them decades ago, and I've had that world affect how I worldbuild for my TTRPGs. It's fantastic!
I read all the books of this saga.
I loved it. Absolutely outstanding.
loooved this video, and looking forward to you covering the next books!
you should do more book overviews not not just dinosaurs adjacent books, you do an excellent job formatting and presenting the information that I feel its something you could do outside the genre you have established for this channel
Read the trilogy in the 90's...loved them a lot....really wish it got some kind of movie or series....Might dig them up and read them again after watching.
dinotopia
@@songofseikilos8659 Dinotopia is cute, but it's not a serious adult story like Eden is. Eden if made into a series would be absolutely Epic.
What a piece of Art, this need an adaptation ASAP
Bro I just realized I had a dream about me watching this video over a year ago! I remember waking up and telling my parents. "Strange, I had a dream where I was watching a documentary about humanoid dinosaurs fighting humans." And about five minutes in I got flashbacks to that. Funny, right?! 😅
“I love dinosaurs.”
I never would have guessed
My dad had the first edition hardback of this book when I was very young back in the early 80's. I was too young young to read it then, but I remember being fascinated by the cover art and illustrations. By chance I found an exact copy in a used book store a couple of years ago and finally read it. "Weird" would be an understatement but I really enjoyed the story and world building.
Right? I really liked the arc Kerrick went on
Such a cool idea I wouldn’t mind seeing an adaptation of or more fan art of.
We went from chucking spears with rock points to space flight in 10/15 thousand years,there could have been at least several epochs of time where multiple Civilizations thrived,died out or were destroyed by cataclysm's,the latest being the younger dryas period.
Hint: I know West of Eden is a science fiction novel.
It's not hard to believe that humans could have originated in the Ocean since the early Earth was once toxic to oxygen breathing life and now the oxygen rich world is near the top part of the ocean and on land.
Similar to fish, human embryos have gill arches which are bony loops in the embryo’s neck. In fish, those arches become part of the gill apparatus. But in humans, those gill arches become the bones of our lower jaw, middle ear, and voice box.
The middle ear of humans evolved from fish gills, according to scientists.
The name Tanu is of Hindu origin and Yaleane is a variation of the name Yalena (Russian)
All I could find on the names Yaleane and Yalena mean "shining light" and the Greek goddess Helena also means "shining light"
I wonder if they changed Danu to Tanu
Matsya is the fish avatar of the Hindu god Vishnu. The word Danu described the primeval waters that this deity embodied.
American writer Harry Harrison, born as Henry Maxwell Dempsey.
His mother Ria H. Kirjassoff, was Russian Jewish. She had been born in Riga, Latvia, and grew up in St. Petersburg, Russia.
Angkor Wat is an enormous Buddhist temple complex located in northern Cambodia and it appears to depict a Stegosaurus dinosaur.
Scientists reject the idea that any of the dinosaurs survived up into modern times.
Coelacanths were supposed to have gone extinct about 65 million years ago around the same time as the dinosaurs, today there are two known living species.
"The League of Scientific Fiction"! Also, I vote for the humanoid dinosaurs.
Always great to hear 'bout these stories I otherwise would not~
I am a pretty big stickler for accuracy, and i especially don't like excessively edgy and over the top dinosaur designs cough 65 cough. Things like Primal are the very few exceptions.
But for some reason, i can't get enough of the Science Fantasy genre of paleomedia. Particularly in literature. I especially loved The Quintaglio Ascension And this is another really good one.
And in some cases this also extends to other media, Like Lost Eden, the Dinotopia series, Warhammer, DnD etc. I just love this genre in paleomedia despite being heavily stylized.
I loved this trilogy and I have always enjoyed the work of Harry Harrison especially Slippery Jim D'griz in the Stainless steel rat series.
Excellent commentary young man and I'm pleased you managed to nail the reptilian culture and social structure of the Y'lani. I was intrigued by their birthing beaches and their metamorphosis from ellinil(?) to fargi and eventually Y'lani.
Brilliantly imagined I always thought.
Thank you for your hard work and dedication to the joy of reading. Stay safe be strong live free 🌎☀️🌧️
You inspired me to get the book myself, thank you
In my opinion Harrison was an interesting writer in that whilst he certainly had plenty of ideas and, as you mention, placed some humour in to sf it is as if he felt the need to churn follow up books as if he was under some contractual obligation or bet as to which author could produce the longest line of drivel (won I think by hubbard). So I recommend most of the non serial books and normally the first book of each series but not the follow-on books which he squirted out. Then came the Eden series, what a pleasant change.
This was actually pretty cool, looking forward to the next videos.
Excited for the next vids man
One of my favorite series of books from my teenage years!
I'd be interested to hear from you how do the Yilane compare with the Quintaglios once you finish reading the trilogy, since they are both fictional sapient saurians with a heavily advanced society that live among regular prehistoric fauna and even use some of said fauna as mounts and other comforts. However, even though their societies, cultures and moral principles heavily differenciate from one another and thus probably wouldnt be that fair to even compare the two, i do find the Quintaglios a fair bit more "approachable" in more aspects than one for better or worse.
Edit: i had a literal shower thought about what i said about the Quintaglios being more "approachable" than the Yilane (seriously i was literally taking a shower bath when i thought of this). Like, yeah, the Quintaglios are more approachable because that's how they're MEANT to be in a narrative amd story telling sense. Like, Sawyer went out of his way to make the Quintaglios as relatable to audiences as he could because they are meant to be the main protagonists that we as readers are supposed to follow with and empathize (plus they're the only other sapient race in their books for a great majority of them) and even though some people had a bone to pick with Sawyer making the Quintaglios way too human like he himself stood by that choice because he knew making them too alien would, for a lack of a better word ironically, "alienate" the audience from wanting to follow their journey.
The Yilane on the other hand are not meant to be sympathetic in the slightest since they are the main antagonists of the story (at least most of them) while this is really Kerrick's story told from his persepctive and the author went out of his way to make the Yilane as unhuman like to make us latch onto better to the already human protagonists (that and making Kerrick a rape victim certainly helps) meanwhile Enge was really the exception to the rule and was there to show that not ALL the Yilane are as "heartless" as our perspective might want to believe. That said, i do wanna see a version where the Tanu and the Yilane DO set aside their differences and find out that their respective uniqueness would work even better when they're both on the same side (unless that was already touched upon on the later books)
So yeah, even if taking into account how both races are essentially a bunch of green lizard men that have a lot of behavioral and societal traits deeply rooted in their animalistic/reptilian ancestry and instincts (which could be argued even those are executed very differently from one another) and how both have an equally fascinating natural and cultural history in their own rights, from a story telling perspective, for the most part you're supposed to find one race endearing while you're supposed to be largely repulsed by the other.
All that said and done though, i am extremely intrigued how would an encounter between the Quintaglios and the Yilane would go down like since they would arguably be about as alien to each other as we would be to either one of them down to the point where the Quintaglios dont even have scales despite also being reptiles. Hell i'd even pay to see the Quintaglios and the Tanu interacting. Would certainly make for an intriguing crossover episode lol.
These books are so great and deal so much with pretty actual issues as well. And I wonder if Bethesda took inspiration from them in creating The Elder Scrolls. The Yilané and the Argonians have quite a lot in common.
Yes,because dont forget Female yilane and female argonians are the same
They have strong sexual desires but the opposite is that yilena are dominated by females whilst Argonian females are more like single moms
West of Eden is not good science fiction, but it's definitely worth a read just as a piece of delightfully dated, out-there pulpy thrills.
Edit: it makes sense, looking back. He researched everything but the dinosaurs!
It is fantastic science fiction wtf
@@FiddleWiddle Humans couldn't evolve from New World Monkeys, Ectotherms can't maintain high-EQs like the Yilane, and instead of evolving new dinosaurs he just drops in extinct ones. Harrison was very talented within a certain range, and this book is not within that. Also, the Yilane talk to each other in the book like cartoon villains. For all the work put into trying to make them seem alien and bizarre they sure do have very simple dialogue. Why he put five years of research into everything but paleontology when writing a book like this, I'll never get.
@@thoughtfuldevil6069 is this story compelling and interesting? Yes. Does it fall within the science fiction genre. Yes. Is the worldbuilding immersive? Yes.
Then it's a good science fiction story. Simple as.
@@FiddleWiddle Like I said, it isn't fully science fiction. It's more science-fantasy. I liked it, but just not as much as you or Diego did. I wouldn't call it compelling or interesting, just a fun pulpy read to kill some hours on a plane ride. The flaws in the plot and world knock it down for me.
Thanks for introducing us to this weird and wonderful story.
I've read this series twice and will probably read through it all again. The biotechnology of the Yilane is always creepy and fascinating to me. And there is a constant sort of melancholy feel under the surface through the whole book that points to what a great author Harrison was. ANd I totally agree with the comments that a series of movies would be incredible, minus the interspecies rape.
Great video... I loved it. You did an amazing job. I can't wait for your next eden videos.
I read the original paperback when it came out but I never knew there were sequels. I may still have it in my library somewhere.
Story starts at 36:15
John W. Campbell's story "Who Goes There?' was also the basis for the Hammer film of 1970, "Horror Express". The special effects are laughable by today's standards, but the story and acting is top-notch, especially Telly Savalas as a Cossack Commander.
I read both of the books. I enjoyed both of them very much.
BRO WTF THEY GAVE THE BOY A LOINCLOTH MADE FROM HIS FRIEND
@@bull420840 well, yeah, but I was not done with the video