bro just do the soldier aim up strategy to avoid being headshot no i'm serious you can actually block headshots via aiming up with your rocket launcher and looking at an angle proportionate to where the aimbotter is
@@commanderdemonno9819 This is why "spinbot" (aka antiaim) exists. The whole point is to avoid getting hit by other ragers, so you make your head behind cover. Looking down is better than zero pitch or up pitch, because your head protruded more in one direction, and you face that direction towards the wall. If you're fairly talented in csgo, you can just look down and behind you while peeking a bad rager who's scouting or awping, and they'll probably miss.
_”If you know both yourself and your enemy, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.”_ Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little more about fighting than you do, tin can, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor.
Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat and then he beat the crap out of every single one.
A few days ago, my team and I started to face 2 hackerbots in the enemy team on a casual payload match. One person in the enemy team voted to kick those bots, but the others, instead of voting in favor of the kick, just decided to not kick them and basically abused the fact there were hackers in their team to destroy us. It went out of control and they ended up having 5 hacker bots in their team. We decided not to give them what they wanted, and we decided to peacefully protest by staying in spawn, taunting, having fun, while they had very few to no players to kill at all. Eventually when we decided to leave spawn, we managed to win 3 games in a row against those aimbots by using strategies and weapon combinations, we even had our own sniper taking care of the bots. After all, you can't download skill!
theory: valve is dealing with the problem by using a time machine to sent the tf2 team several years back, so they can invent MvM to prepare us against the bot invasion
For scout, I’m surprised you didn’t use Bonk, as bots don’t see you as invincible and still shoot at you like normal, making for an almost perfect distraction.
Wrong, this is not necessarily true. While a badly coded cheat with limited features or a poor resolver would just shoot the invincible scout, a proper cheat would simply ignore the scout because it's a waste of time. It is still useful though, because while they can't hit you, they also can't stop you. If you're really fast, you can play objective before they catch up.
Bonk then using taunt kills on bots. The bonk isn't detected by any bots that are around rn. (I've only encountered 1 hacker that had aimbot against bonk on.)
I remember seeing an influx of aimbot in an uberupgrades server that I frequent, let's say it didn't go well for any of them The admins didnt even bother banning them since the aimboters didn't have a clue of how the mod and upgrades work
@@randomimperialguardsmanfor9342 do you like to be op? If you kill a enemy you get cash instantly... however this ain't your weak-ass MVM upgrades. You can upgrade almost EVERY item to be op. A demoman going faster then a scout who seemingly can teleport across the map in an instant, detonator helipyros, a cumming scout, airstike soldiers with slow rockets that they can aim mid-flight... it happens all the time
I'm a bit sad he didn't mention this. I've found decent success in picking off bots per bonk. Since they aren't like humans, they won't back off and some even straight up ignore you (I guess they know you're invincible) so you can get right up close to them, and the moment bonk wears off, hit them with a full soda popper barrel.
@@StickmanHatena Yeah i fond out this strategy on my first time dealing with bots 1 on 1 and i find it one of the best ways to deal with bots, weird he didn't mention it in the video.
There are certain scripts that ignore Bonk, but a baby face's can outrun his hit box at max speed, granted he doesn't get hit once with a pistol. Since a aimbotter locks on to the Visual head and not the head hitbox, it'll be fun for the scout and not the gibus and pyrovision aimbotter.
Scout can be very effective against a bad aimbot, with a bfb with full boost and the bonk you can outrun their aim most of the time, once I got a hacker to leave because I started to dominate him with thid method
It’s called hybrid knight: I noticed that aimbots normally don’t shoot unless they are on full charge. If you can aim, just dump them pills at them and if you run out, you cut them
Then it would also be a good idea to change shields to tide turner because running in a straight line is about the worst thing you can do to counter a sniper.
I remember I was playing a match control points, every slot in the enemy team were aimbot snipers except one soldier. My team was get spawn camped pretty hard not even heavys could do anything. I was about to leave but then I remembered bonk exists. It took me a few tries but I got out safely got to the last control point with about a minute left we were rolling the enemy originally and had 11 minutes. So I managed to win against a bunch of bots.
Pyro is actually pretty good against bots if you can predict them. They tend to have a harder time getting headshots from the flinching from afterburn. You can use the scorch shot to hit a wall that is next to a corner that the bot is about to turn, and you can spray the flamethrower around corners to deal decent damage and make it harder for the bots to headshot. Bots usually seem to use the cozy camper, so they are usually affected by afterburn.
6:58 'as the bots like to only face one direction' mate,you forgot that apparentely all the non bots are bullet magnets,meaning bullets hit when they shouldnt
I mean, this can't really be countered. The tf2 hvh meta had stayed the same for years, so I doubt it'll change now. Soldier would be effective against a lot more classes, but the problem is that projectile aimbot is rather difficult to develop, especially a good one. Exilelord made one as a hobby, not intended to be released, but seems to work rather well. So until projectile aimbot progresses in development, everything should stay the same.
Scout should be higher (behind soldier), he has amazing utility against bots, use the boston basher to farm uber at max and gain ubercharge from vac. way more quicker. Then go bonk to tank the headshots and potentially kill taunt kill them with sandman or atomizer while under bonk.
I'm 99% sure they wait for your bonk to run out and shoot u instantly so its not that helpful, and building uber with the basher isnt that much better than shooting yourself as soldier/demo.
@@lukamtc9188 Plus who's to say they don't have idiot teammates helping the bots, "oh there's a scout with bonk let's shoot at him so that when the affect wears off he's as slow as the BFB"
For Scout, I would use the: Soda Popper and Atomizer for mobility And a Bonk to ignore damage Maybe throw in a Bonk -> Atomizer tauntkill to take out the bot
Hey ace, I believe that the back scratcher would be good for pyro as it makes medium healthkits heal 132 hp, enough to bring you back over 150 from the first shot
@@greendesigner It's a nice understimaded meelee,think about it,extra health from packs,helps medic with Uber, extra damage and the less healing applies only when DEPLOYED Why nobody loves my cleaning boi
@@luka9967 I use Back Scratcher on Pyro all the time. Medics don't care about me, and I play Pyro aggressively, so dispensers aren't an option either. More health pack health is excellent. Not a minor increase, but +75%. That makes even the *Small* health kit a half-heal.
second scoping them will always work, you need an unfortunate victim first that they headshot and you can clap them in the middle of them cocking the sniper rifle
For scout i suggest the bonk and the atomizer. The bonk allows you to eat headshots and the atomizer has a taunt kill to kill the bots whil under bonk. You see, bots either dont move or can be bodyblocked really easily making those tank kills easy to hit. For primary, i dont know, none will help you but I guess the force a nature or soda popper for the extra mobility
I’d love to see top tens about other games! That top ten video game soundtracks or Mario kart music tracks sound interesting, I’d really enjoy seeing either of those!
You could possibly take them head-on if AND ONLY IF: 1. You are a Medic and have an Übercharge ready. 2. You are any one of the other eight classes, but are paired with option one. 3. You are a Spy and are disguised as a Heavy. Heavy is taller than Spy, so the bots will aim right above your head. 4. You are a Scout and chug a whole can of Bonk, but the effects only last a few seconds, so you will have to act fast. 5. You are a Demoknight. 6. You are an Engineer and are hiding behind one of each building.
I was once stuck with maybe 4 other people in a 5AM payload lobby full of bots and we found that the Vacc+Heavy, Engineer and Demoman were the optimal classes to fight 8+ aimbot snipers all pushing the cart, since Demoman can deal damage without exposing their heads and Engineers can set up a sentry nest at a corner, keep their heads down and keep repairing sentries. The aimbots don't deal enough DPS to out damage the repair rate of an Engie, although of course the Jag is the most effective. This is probably just for Payload, though
Top 10 favorite overclocks sounds really good actually! And maybe after that, 10 favorite tracks of Grip! It was you who actually got me into that game!
scout is one of the best at countering the bots in my experience. the aimbot they have is very inconsistent, and they seem to prioritize shooting other classes.
Honestly, as someone who's new to Deep Rock and interested in Grip, I really wanna see those! Maybe even favorite cars in Grip? Favorite loadouts for DRG?
engi is a good choice. teleporters get your dead teammates back to the front lines faster, and your sentries cant be headshot. for scout, i would also reccommend the shortstop over the soda popper, and maybe the bonk over the winger. a little more range can help out alot, and the bonk can help you get into the back lines faster. also, wrap assassin is perfect in all situations
One thing I noticed about the bots are that if they get knocked back it takes them a moment for the aimbot to re-adjust which is just enough time for you to fire another rocket, grenade, or flare to finish them off. In all honesty all the bots have really done have increased my reaction speed. They are the only reason why I love using the direct hit now.
some good reccomendations but i would personally move sniper up to either before or right after heavy, since often the range is so long no other class can consistently kill enemy aimbotters quick enough. a decent pocket sniper can survive headshots and take them out fast.
for pyro, you use stock flame thrower, flare gun and volcano fragment. flamethrower gives more airblasts to support your team and push back bots from around corners, flare guns are good for either badly damaging the bots or outright killing them, and the volcano fragment, if needed to fight bots up close, does a little extra damage even after you would die.
Against bots I like to use bonk if I play a scout, it normally distracts the bots the way a sentry gets distracted with it and allows for the rest of the team to do kill them.
I would absolutely LOVE to see you do some "top x" vids about DRG. If you do top overclocks though, you should do top 16, so it's your favourite OC on each of the 4 weapons on each of the 4 classes.
For demoman, stock is just better because you do not need to run away from sightlines, you can simply not enter them at all. And it is easier to peak around a corner, fire a shot and take cover than it is to charge against an aimbot, kill them, hope your charge is ready and then run away. Plus, it is not like any extra health will matter against 150 quickscope headshots.
@@g2ltt733 But you are not going to be using the eyelander, the eyelander can only get you up to 235HP, which is a lot, but it will still take 2 quickscopes.
If you really want to do scout against aimbots try bonk! Atomic punch to close the distance if there is a no man's land on the map. You can usually run through no man's land and shotgun them away. I have mainly done this on upward with also the force of nature because I've noticed they like to camp at the edges, so you just get close and knock them off.
Something that every class have in common and is super effective against all kinds of cheaters; from bots, script kiddies and straight up edgy people with a desire of attention: *The "Vote Kick" option"* Really people, as soon as you see a bot joining your team *READ* his user name and look at his profile picture (since some bots change names, copying usernames from other people in your team/server) before pressing F1 by instinct, then vote kick. If the bot has stealed the name of someone ask that someone to made the vote himself to evade kicking a bystander that just wanted to have fun and give a few seconds so, if you are kicking the wrong person he can have a bit yo write in chat "That's me not bot". And to the other team, calling out the bot yourselves is nice and all but, then again, while they're at it try to not kill people AFK that is trying to vote or made the vote themselves and stop pushing the cart/capturing the point/pushing them all the way to spawn an denying their hard work until the bot arrived. It makes all the process more fast and easier. TF2 it's in a bad state right now and Valve it's not doing a lot, then let's be us trying to keep this the best place that we can. Hopefully we are going to have the update we need soon
Votekick is all well and good until they have bots that automatically vote "no" (or scumbags who refuse to vote yes) and prevent the offending party from getting booted off. Or they just join right back in using one of their 1892374820 alternative accounts, even if you near-unanimously kick them off (which, God bless, most TF2 players are willing to kick if you inform them)
Well on pay load defense demos sticky bombs, work wonders, especially on chockey areas, last on such upward were you can safely spam stickies from up top.
If you dont wanna fight them or see them go to these severs. Training severs. Community severs. Big TF2 creators severs. MvM (boot camp to) Tips for fighting them. First, before you fight your enemy you need to know your enemy, They spin around, They spam chat (for some reason not on 2fort) They always get heads. They ALWAYS go sniper. Now you know your enemy you need to fight them with there weaknesses. Only 1 that works good is go behind walls and surprise kill them or stealth kill them. (DONT DISGUISE THEY WILL GET MAD AND WILL GET OTHER BOTS TO GO MEDIC AND BODYGUARD THEM)
Normally, I'd agree, but by now, there is no place to leave to. They're everywhere. Also, 90% of the games I'm in, they're kicked in less than 20 seconds and I get MAYBE killed once by them, if I'm unlucky. You can tell people got used to it, and they're calling votes or pressing F1 within seconds.
I think, not sure, but if you want to test a more team saving approach Bonk the atomic punch might work to attract the headshots while being temporally invulnerable (not sure if bot will ignore so try to at times get in front of more defenseless team member to attest try to headshot block while Bonk is active.)
Im going to predict it before he says: scout: backscatter, milk, fanowar soldier : direct hit batt backup equalizer pyro: backburner or phlog flare gun axetinguisher demoman: bootlegger scottish resistance skullaxe thing i forgot what is called heavy: tomislav bannana fists of steel engineer: frontier justice wrangler gunslinger sniper: youre screwed :medic crossbow vaccinator ubersaw spy: ambassador kunai if your good or stock if all else fails and dead ringer
I noticed recently that when junping directly over a sniper as scout causes them to miss, so you take agro but wont get killed so your team can finish it off
If these bots want attention then I’ll give them attention. “How so” you might ask? By painting the walls red if you know what I mean. (Insert Evil laughter and Endless Despair from Blazeblue here)
Depends on how you interpret that question, Owen Hunt. In game, I manage to quintuple kill some bots with my iron bomber and didn’t even had crits nor a medic on me. If not in game, well that’s something I can arrange.
Engineers Sentrys are pretty good at blocking pathways because most bots will not move into the line of a sentrys fire, but it's more for defensive then offensive
I'd honestly think Bonk might be the best choice for Scout, possibly using his invincibility as a way to shield his allies as they gang up on the bot, or maybe the bot is focused on scout since he is the closest target so your team can help when the bot is distracted. I don't know how exactly how the bots work but I love to see that somehow Demoknight is a Demoman's best option to combat a sniper bot
One thing ive noticed is some bots get confused by the Boston Boarder taunt, so maybe you can use that to get behind them and use the backscatter as soon as you untaunt to get minicrit?
Why not bonk it makes you invulnerable for a few seconds and allows you to get close with no downside and the slow down from damage taken won't matter much anyway considering you'll probably be killed if there's more than one aimbot.
I’ve got a nice Scout loadout. It’s called bonk taunt kill scout. Drink Bonk! Atomic punch! And have a taunt kill bat ready. Then, walk up to a bot sniper, and taunt kill. Try and get them as close to a wall, too. So that if they move, they probably won’t get too far out of taunt kill range.
I dont know if you missed this or have a reason that im not aware of not to mention this, but scouts bonk: atomic punch is extremely useful against bots since it can distract them while your team guns them down.
As a Pyro, I tend to enjoy using the flare Gun against bots since heavies and sniper slow down when aiming or revving and move in a predictable pattern. For snipers you can hit one flare, survive the quick scope, and crit with the second flare. For heavy, you always want to be at range since the minigun will be less effective and they’ll be unable to prevent you from doing 90 burst damage at range per flare. Scorch shot is arguably better for CC as the flare gun has problems when dealing with groups, but if you’re just dealing with one bot at a time and they aren’t over healed then the flare gun is a good pick.
Good details for scout users For certain bots, bonk can make them waste their shots. Upon getting in close proximity, the bots often switch to melee, and your shotgun deals more damage.
I got an idea for a top 9 loadouts idea, dunno if anyone recommended this before, and it's kinda hard to make a name for, but, best self class countering loadouts, like for example, for Scout, it would be a loadout for countering other Scouts, Pyro, a loadout for countering other Pyros's etc.
A lv 2 or 3 sentry can shut down any bot and a entire team of engis can completely stop any bot (or player) from going anywhere near your nest also the pomson 6000's projectile fires BELOW your crosshair and is so slow the bots probably will not even get hit and if I remember correctly the rescue ranger does more damage than the pomson
I was going to say bonk because you are invincible for a few seconds,but now that you move slowly after the effect wears when you get shot it may not be,use the bonk only if there are multiple at diffrent agles that winger wouldnt work,then use bonk to kill at least one with ease
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Normal Sniper: Sniper counters Heavy, Scout counters Sniper.
Aimbot Sniper: Heavy counters Sniper, Sniper counters Scout.
my scout: counters aimbot sniper with superior crouch jumps
@Who Knows this is why every team needs a medic or 2.
bro just do the soldier aim up strategy to avoid being headshot
no i'm serious you can actually block headshots via aiming up with your rocket launcher and looking at an angle proportionate to where the aimbotter is
@@commanderdemonno9819 heavy can do it as well (watch "how it feels to play sniper" for evidence)
@@commanderdemonno9819 This is why "spinbot" (aka antiaim) exists. The whole point is to avoid getting hit by other ragers, so you make your head behind cover. Looking down is better than zero pitch or up pitch, because your head protruded more in one direction, and you face that direction towards the wall. If you're fairly talented in csgo, you can just look down and behind you while peeking a bad rager who's scouting or awping, and they'll probably miss.
I know people wanted a mann vs Machine update but I don't think this is what they meant
Very true
And you can't even get australium weapons in the new MWM mode.
Lol yeah
@@dominikfrommer7822 aT lEaSt iT's NoT PaY To PlAy.
Community: We want Mann vs machine update!
Valve: I'm about to do what's called a pro gamer move.
_”If you know both yourself and your enemy, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.”_
Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little more about fighting than you do, tin can, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor.
StickMaster500 Who are you
Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat and then he beat the crap out of every single one.
@@greenmachine9 He's StickMaster500, never heard of him?
And anytime a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a Zoo
This man is on every tf2 video I’ve seen who is he truly?
All those years of MVM has trained us for this very cause.
*one second later, finds a team with 7 "myg0t" bots in the enemy team, and 3 in your own team, that are already trying to kick you*
well, he did recommend brass beast
@@omoriperocondrip9130 unusual hat bot shitter kicked me : l
Pfffft
valve predicted it thats why they made mvm lmao
A few days ago, my team and I started to face 2 hackerbots in the enemy team on a casual payload match. One person in the enemy team voted to kick those bots, but the others, instead of voting in favor of the kick, just decided to not kick them and basically abused the fact there were hackers in their team to destroy us. It went out of control and they ended up having 5 hacker bots in their team. We decided not to give them what they wanted, and we decided to peacefully protest by staying in spawn, taunting, having fun, while they had very few to no players to kill at all.
Eventually when we decided to leave spawn, we managed to win 3 games in a row against those aimbots by using strategies and weapon combinations, we even had our own sniper taking care of the bots.
After all, you can't download skill!
-MrPaladin
skill.exe has been succesfully failed in dowload
xd
Me (a heavy, with Tomislav) and a vaccinator medic managed to clear an entire server of sydneys.
Bravo
theory: valve is dealing with the problem by using a time machine to sent the tf2 team several years back, so they can invent MvM to prepare us against the bot invasion
In our time of need, the lists return
Aw yeah, I’ve been rewatching the old ones. Now we got a new one on the bot problem
Yeah and as for the games i’d like to see no man’s sky
Yea
Can anybody check my comment I made that is recently new hoping that everyone will learn more of how to defeat a bot. Please and thank you.
For scout, I’m surprised you didn’t use Bonk, as bots don’t see you as invincible and still shoot at you like normal, making for an almost perfect distraction.
Wrong, this is not necessarily true. While a badly coded cheat with limited features or a poor resolver would just shoot the invincible scout, a proper cheat would simply ignore the scout because it's a waste of time. It is still useful though, because while they can't hit you, they also can't stop you. If you're really fast, you can play objective before they catch up.
you can bodyblock for teammates
@@caughtintheweb0 you can tauntkill them while your invincible.
@@aaronking2020 you can come close to them while at bonk: and 100% kill them with a weapon that minicrits on the back
Bonk then using taunt kills on bots. The bonk isn't detected by any bots that are around rn. (I've only encountered 1 hacker that had aimbot against bonk on.)
I remember seeing an influx of aimbot in an uberupgrades server that I frequent, let's say it didn't go well for any of them
The admins didnt even bother banning them since the aimboters didn't have a clue of how the mod and upgrades work
What’s uberupgrade?
@@randomimperialguardsmanfor9342 imagine normal tf2 but with MvM upgrades
@@randomimperialguardsmanfor9342 do you like to be op? If you kill a enemy you get cash instantly... however this ain't your weak-ass MVM upgrades. You can upgrade almost EVERY item to be op. A demoman going faster then a scout who seemingly can teleport across the map in an instant, detonator helipyros, a cumming scout, airstike soldiers with slow rockets that they can aim mid-flight... it happens all the time
@@Fluffy_W what is the ip
Hah
I would like the ip as well
"For scout, the winger"
*Angry Bonk Noises*
Actually, that seems like it might work. You got any way to deal 125 faster than a quickscope?
nut jar, you can get all the health back from any unscoped shots if u hit em once with something
I'm a bit sad he didn't mention this. I've found decent success in picking off bots per bonk. Since they aren't like humans, they won't back off and some even straight up ignore you (I guess they know you're invincible) so you can get right up close to them, and the moment bonk wears off, hit them with a full soda popper barrel.
@@StickmanHatena Yeah i fond out this strategy on my first time dealing with bots 1 on 1 and i find it one of the best ways to deal with bots, weird he didn't mention it in the video.
There are certain scripts that ignore Bonk, but a baby face's can outrun his hit box at max speed, granted he doesn't get hit once with a pistol. Since a aimbotter locks on to the Visual head and not the head hitbox, it'll be fun for the scout and not the gibus and pyrovision aimbotter.
Alternate Title: Top 9 best loadouts for MvM
this comment is so underrated :v
Bruh
TF2 is just MVM or “Suprise MVM”
For pyro, anything with the gaspasser and powerjack
what about personal loadout
"Scout is the worst option to counter aimbots"
Bonk! Atomic Punch: Spam me
..you?
Scout can be very effective against a bad aimbot, with a bfb with full boost and the bonk you can outrun their aim most of the time, once I got a hacker to leave because I started to dominate him with thid method
@@csaba4444sub Nope, Cathook ignores bonk atomic enemies.
@@boo2593 Well the important partis the baby faces blaster. You can outrun many aimbots with it and bam bam they ded son
@@boo2593 thats even better?
*The fact that this video had to be created shows how deformed and corroded the current state of TF2 is.*
Yeah. It’s sad. Fixing VAC isn’t that difficult
At least the Asian servers are bot free
@@spunk3787 i can tell you that asian servers also have bot issues
Just play on community servers
@@padacuw4722 jokes on you i only play medieval mode
I love how Sniper's counters/ weaknesses are reversed when using an aimbot.
The fact that this video exists is clear cut evidence on how bad of a state tf2 is in
It’s called hybrid knight: I noticed that aimbots normally don’t shoot unless they are on full charge.
If you can aim, just dump them pills at them and if you run out, you cut them
Some of them. Others quickscope. If always they charge first then you can just kill the guy pathetically
Loch n load's projectile speed is useful here.
Then it would also be a good idea to change shields to tide turner because running in a straight line is about the worst thing you can do to counter a sniper.
@@cactusgamingyt9960 well yes, but my aim with it is shit but the loch n load is good i guess
I remember I was playing a match control points, every slot in the enemy team were aimbot snipers except one soldier.
My team was get spawn camped pretty hard not even heavys could do anything. I was about to leave but then I remembered bonk exists. It took me a few tries but I got out safely got to the last control point with about a minute left we were rolling the enemy originally and had 11 minutes. So I managed to win against a bunch of bots.
That’s not something just anyone can pull off. Good job man!
Good on ya for saving ur team!
Every great game needs a hero like me in Hollow Nest
1000 IQ move
"NOOOOO!!! YOU CANT JUST COUNTER HOW OUR AIMBOTS COUNTER HEAVY, HOW DARE YOU USE STRATEGY AGAINST US NOOO!!!"
"Haha Family Business goes Kapow Kapow"
I had a stroke reading this
@@aaronking2020 so r/Ihadastroke
@@dr_doot No.
Hey, it runs in the family.
@@dr_doot Reddit sucks
as a heavy/medic main, i can confirm that this is easily the best time to be a heavy/medic main.
A reccomended loadout:
Soldier with a cow mangler
And a medic
Top 10 Tips for Starting Out in SoT!
what is SoT?
I Know How King Crimson Works It stands for Sea of Thieves
@@simonj6801 Sea of Thieves
:3
@@simonj6801 pls tell me how kingu crimsonu works pls
@@alin9908 King Crimson is easy to understand, all he does is... and that's how he works.
For scout, use atomic punch and atomizer to taunt kill, works almost every time
Wasn't expecting a top 9 list, not gonna lie.
Top 10 Favorite Sea of Thieves events, maybe?
does he allow opinion-based lists?
@@testhekidmost lists are opinion based.
@@reubenkaufman4894 thanks for the elaboration
1. Top Ten "Top Ten Lists" to make videos about
2. Top Ten Tips (pp tips) in TF2
3. Top Ten Ocarinas to make while playing TF2
Hey ace, for the scout, i've seen that bonk can be good for getting through sightlines without getting shot a lot.
And something that shoots fast and for the melee i'd use the fan of war
Thats a good choise you can tank a shot for your team
Pyro is actually pretty good against bots if you can predict them. They tend to have a harder time getting headshots from the flinching from afterburn. You can use the scorch shot to hit a wall that is next to a corner that the bot is about to turn, and you can spray the flamethrower around corners to deal decent damage and make it harder for the bots to headshot. Bots usually seem to use the cozy camper, so they are usually affected by afterburn.
Alternate title: 9 best load outs for playing casual tf2
Too true, i got back into tf2 last month; and good lord its sad how casual is almost dead.
@@Dovah22 its gaining players though look at the steam community charts!
That cool dude! is awesome! The reason i say casual is dead is because the bot plauge.
@@thatcooldudeisawesome876 its going through a bot plague they r bots not real ppl
Omfg
6:58 'as the bots like to only face one direction'
mate,you forgot that apparentely all the non bots are bullet magnets,meaning bullets hit when they shouldnt
Ace: makes the top 9 loadouts for dealing with bots
bot makers: *interesting*
That's fine. If I find where the sydney bot creator lives, I'm going to introduce him to sasha
I mean, this can't really be countered. The tf2 hvh meta had stayed the same for years, so I doubt it'll change now. Soldier would be effective against a lot more classes, but the problem is that projectile aimbot is rather difficult to develop, especially a good one. Exilelord made one as a hobby, not intended to be released, but seems to work rather well. So until projectile aimbot progresses in development, everything should stay the same.
We are basically witnessing an arms race between Valve and the TF2 bot creators.
Scout should be higher (behind soldier), he has amazing utility against bots, use the boston basher to farm uber at max and gain ubercharge from vac. way more quicker. Then go bonk to tank the headshots and potentially kill taunt kill them with sandman or atomizer while under bonk.
Or use force of nature to one-shot if u can
I'm 99% sure they wait for your bonk to run out and shoot u instantly so its not that helpful, and building uber with the basher isnt that much better than shooting yourself as soldier/demo.
I’m pretty sure you can’t kill taunt with a Boston Basher, unless obviously if you change weapons after gaining full uber lul
@@SwampPhyre i said sandman or atomizer
@@lukamtc9188 Plus who's to say they don't have idiot teammates helping the bots, "oh there's a scout with bonk let's shoot at him so that when the affect wears off he's as slow as the BFB"
For Scout, I would use the:
Soda Popper and Atomizer for mobility
And a Bonk to ignore damage
Maybe throw in a Bonk -> Atomizer tauntkill to take out the bot
Fist of steel. Fist of steel. FIST OF STEEL
@Sightless_Seeker pretty sure it doesn't stack
still the best option
Bonk
Just bonk
@@tankmaster2596 It does, and the Battalion's stacks as well
Just found your channel, you have really enjoyable content so I’ll give a sub! Also is that a floran I see?
Thanks man, and yes it is!
Hey ace, I believe that the back scratcher would be good for pyro as it makes medium healthkits heal 132 hp, enough to bring you back over 150 from the first shot
Neat I got noticed
@@greendesigner It's a nice understimaded meelee,think about it,extra health from packs,helps medic with Uber, extra damage and the less healing applies only when DEPLOYED
Why nobody loves my cleaning boi
@@luka9967 I use Back Scratcher on Pyro all the time.
Medics don't care about me, and I play Pyro aggressively, so dispensers aren't an option either.
More health pack health is excellent. Not a minor increase, but +75%. That makes even the *Small* health kit a half-heal.
@@lev7509 I play phlog so I use powerjack because I need to move fast
@@luka9967 i recommend the manmelter with phlog so you can extinguish your team.
I have a loadout, its name is...
“The Disconnect Loadout”
this joke is like your birth
a tragedy
@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan fucking ended him
I got shat on
I rather call it a Rage quit
@@frozenfiredarknight3764 I call it "aight, I'ma head out"
Ace is back with his loadouts
second scoping them will always work, you need an unfortunate victim first that they headshot and you can clap them in the middle of them cocking the sniper rifle
Good to see this series come back
For scout i suggest the bonk and the atomizer. The bonk allows you to eat headshots and the atomizer has a taunt kill to kill the bots whil under bonk. You see, bots either dont move or can be bodyblocked really easily making those tank kills easy to hit. For primary, i dont know, none will help you but I guess the force a nature or soda popper for the extra mobility
I’d love to see top tens about other games! That top ten video game soundtracks or Mario kart music tracks sound interesting, I’d really enjoy seeing either of those!
You could possibly take them head-on if AND ONLY IF:
1. You are a Medic and have an Übercharge ready.
2. You are any one of the other eight classes, but are paired with option one.
3. You are a Spy and are disguised as a Heavy. Heavy is taller than Spy, so the bots will aim right above your head.
4. You are a Scout and chug a whole can of Bonk, but the effects only last a few seconds, so you will have to act fast.
5. You are a Demoknight.
6. You are an Engineer and are hiding behind one of each building.
1:00 I would love to see all of thous Ace!
I was once stuck with maybe 4 other people in a 5AM payload lobby full of bots and we found that the Vacc+Heavy, Engineer and Demoman were the optimal classes to fight 8+ aimbot snipers all pushing the cart, since Demoman can deal damage without exposing their heads and Engineers can set up a sentry nest at a corner, keep their heads down and keep repairing sentries. The aimbots don't deal enough DPS to out damage the repair rate of an Engie, although of course the Jag is the most effective.
This is probably just for Payload, though
Just what we need. Thank you, Ace.
Recently I’ve noticed that the bot problem is getting much better with most teams kicking the bot before they can join
Top 10 favorite overclocks sounds really good actually! And maybe after that, 10 favorite tracks of Grip! It was you who actually got me into that game!
scout is one of the best at countering the bots in my experience. the aimbot they have is very inconsistent, and they seem to prioritize shooting other classes.
And the worst one for you is?
@@eh2587 engineer or pyro
@@SimulacrumF turtling is pretty effective against bots
This is the point we're at. This is how neglected the game is.
Fun fact. As pyro if you look straight up you can get your arm hit box to block your head.
Honestly, as someone who's new to Deep Rock and interested in Grip, I really wanna see those! Maybe even favorite cars in Grip? Favorite loadouts for DRG?
engi is a good choice. teleporters get your dead teammates back to the front lines faster, and your sentries cant be headshot.
for scout, i would also reccommend the shortstop over the soda popper, and maybe the bonk over the winger. a little more range can help out alot, and the bonk can help you get into the back lines faster.
also, wrap assassin is perfect in all situations
Scout is actually the best option for hauling a medic out of a bad situation with haste, since the medic matches his speed when healing him.
If Uberupgrades truly is the aimbot free space ATM, now might be a good time to do a Top 9 Uberupgrades Loadouts vid
Bots: Keep appearing
Valve:*introduces an item that reduces headshot damage by 100%*
Bot makers: F*ck
Maybe a secret update removing headshot damage would stop bots completely
One thing I noticed about the bots are that if they get knocked back it takes them a moment for the aimbot to re-adjust which is just enough time for you to fire another rocket, grenade, or flare to finish them off. In all honesty all the bots have really done have increased my reaction speed. They are the only reason why I love using the direct hit now.
some good reccomendations but i would personally move sniper up to either before or right after heavy, since often the range is so long no other class can consistently kill enemy aimbotters quick enough. a decent pocket sniper can survive headshots and take them out fast.
for pyro, you use stock flame thrower, flare gun and volcano fragment. flamethrower gives more airblasts to support your team and push back bots from around corners, flare guns are good for either badly damaging the bots or outright killing them, and the volcano fragment, if needed to fight bots up close, does a little extra damage even after you would die.
As a demo knight main, I feel very proud after killing 5 bots in a row with a bottle
Against bots I like to use bonk if I play a scout, it normally distracts the bots the way a sentry gets distracted with it and allows for the rest of the team to do kill them.
Bot will actually ignore a bonk scout so it will not always work.
I would absolutely LOVE to see you do some "top x" vids about DRG. If you do top overclocks though, you should do top 16, so it's your favourite OC on each of the 4 weapons on each of the 4 classes.
Something add to the battalions backup, if you fully charge any banner, you can switch to the battalions and retain the full charge
The ultimate aimbot counter: Play on community servers with active admins; NEVER casual.
community servers were always superior! quickplay is forever!
At least no "Festive Hitman" people will knock ya heads of
For demoman, stock is just better because you do not need to run away from sightlines, you can simply not enter them at all. And it is easier to peak around a corner, fire a shot and take cover than it is to charge against an aimbot, kill them, hope your charge is ready and then run away. Plus, it is not like any extra health will matter against 150 quickscope headshots.
The extra health does matter alright 6:37
@@g2ltt733 But you are not going to be using the eyelander, the eyelander can only get you up to 235HP, which is a lot, but it will still take 2 quickscopes.
Not sure if you’ve already done this, but how about: Top 9 list on how to counter [Insert class from TF2]. (Probably already suggested)
If you really want to do scout against aimbots try bonk! Atomic punch to close the distance if there is a no man's land on the map. You can usually run through no man's land and shotgun them away. I have mainly done this on upward with also the force of nature because I've noticed they like to camp at the edges, so you just get close and knock them off.
Something that every class have in common and is super effective against all kinds of cheaters; from bots, script kiddies and straight up edgy people with a desire of attention:
*The "Vote Kick" option"*
Really people, as soon as you see a bot joining your team *READ* his user name and look at his profile picture (since some bots change names, copying usernames from other people in your team/server) before pressing F1 by instinct, then vote kick. If the bot has stealed the name of someone ask that someone to made the vote himself to evade kicking a bystander that just wanted to have fun and give a few seconds so, if you are kicking the wrong person he can have a bit yo write in chat "That's me not bot".
And to the other team, calling out the bot yourselves is nice and all but, then again, while they're at it try to not kill people AFK that is trying to vote or made the vote themselves and stop pushing the cart/capturing the point/pushing them all the way to spawn an denying their hard work until the bot arrived.
It makes all the process more fast and easier. TF2 it's in a bad state right now and Valve it's not doing a lot, then let's be us trying to keep this the best place that we can. Hopefully we are going to have the update we need soon
some bots can even change pfps, only way to see the real bot is with console
Votekick is all well and good until they have bots that automatically vote "no" (or scumbags who refuse to vote yes) and prevent the offending party from getting booted off. Or they just join right back in using one of their 1892374820 alternative accounts, even if you near-unanimously kick them off (which, God bless, most TF2 players are willing to kick if you inform them)
F2P players only have the option of voting in ban callouts.
Not always possible every time I try it just say I can’t call a cite on this person (probably because I’m f2p
Well on pay load defense demos sticky bombs, work wonders, especially on chockey areas, last on such upward were you can safely spam stickies from up top.
I remember killing two bots with a fish using scout it was the funniest thing
note sometimes bots misheadshot you when you were to close thanks gaben
Never has The bad hit box mechanics been so helpful
If you dont wanna fight them or see them go to these severs.
Training severs.
Community severs.
Big TF2 creators severs.
MvM (boot camp to)
Tips for fighting them.
First, before you fight your enemy you need to know your enemy,
They spin around,
They spam chat (for some reason not on 2fort)
They always get heads.
They ALWAYS go sniper.
Now you know your enemy you need to fight them with there weaknesses.
Only 1 that works good is go behind walls and surprise kill them or stealth kill them.
(DONT DISGUISE THEY WILL GET MAD AND WILL GET OTHER BOTS TO GO MEDIC AND BODYGUARD THEM)
Top load out for dealing with aimbots
1: LEAVE
Anyway that's my top load out for dealing with aimbots thank you for attending my seminar
Normally, I'd agree, but by now, there is no place to leave to. They're everywhere.
Also, 90% of the games I'm in, they're kicked in less than 20 seconds and I get MAYBE killed once by them, if I'm unlucky. You can tell people got used to it, and they're calling votes or pressing F1 within seconds.
Sercil yeah that’s why tf2 still has the players it had, even though bots are in almost every game, it’s almost guaranteed kicked
maybe update the kicking system? sounds like a bad idea but i am open for suggestions
FUNKe reference?
2: Stop using matchmaking; use community servers with active admins.
I think, not sure, but if you want to test a more team saving approach Bonk the atomic punch might work to attract the headshots while being temporally invulnerable (not sure if bot will ignore so try to at times get in front of more defenseless team member to attest try to headshot block while Bonk is active.)
I need this so hard as a medic Main
I actually used the soldier kit out and it worked wonders
Im going to predict it before he says: scout: backscatter, milk, fanowar soldier : direct hit batt backup equalizer pyro: backburner or phlog flare gun axetinguisher demoman: bootlegger scottish resistance skullaxe thing i forgot what is called heavy: tomislav bannana fists of steel engineer: frontier justice wrangler gunslinger sniper: youre screwed :medic crossbow vaccinator ubersaw spy: ambassador kunai if your good or stock if all else fails and dead ringer
Mostly wrong.
No, not banana dalakohs bar
I use the Direct Hit and the Panic Attack for hackers, the fact that you can one shot them before they even see you is amazing
I play demoknight, the bots cant handle a charging pan man!
finally an actual useful loadout video that isn't judging my real life personality by a weapons I use in 13 years old casual free to play game
When you queue up for casual but get into MvM
I noticed recently that when junping directly over a sniper as scout causes them to miss, so you take agro but wont get killed so your team can finish it off
If these bots want attention then I’ll give them attention. “How so” you might ask? By painting the walls red if you know what I mean. (Insert Evil laughter and Endless Despair from Blazeblue here)
Have you killed them
Depends on how you interpret that question, Owen Hunt. In game, I manage to quintuple kill some bots with my iron bomber and didn’t even had crits nor a medic on me. If not in game, well that’s something I can arrange.
Engineers Sentrys are pretty good at blocking pathways because most bots will not move into the line of a sentrys fire, but it's more for defensive then offensive
i once beat an aimbot sniper as heavy
I'd honestly think Bonk might be the best choice for Scout, possibly using his invincibility as a way to shield his allies as they gang up on the bot, or maybe the bot is focused on scout since he is the closest target so your team can help when the bot is distracted. I don't know how exactly how the bots work but I love to see that somehow Demoknight is a Demoman's best option to combat a sniper bot
Fliing quillotine for scout for ranged oof
For scout you could use Bonk to get up in their face and body block shots though I'm not sure if that would work.
roses are red,
violets aren't blue,
im not first,
and neither are you.
No one is first
K then but who cares if you are first or not xD
potry
One thing ive noticed is some bots get confused by the Boston Boarder taunt, so maybe you can use that to get behind them and use the backscatter as soon as you untaunt to get minicrit?
the fact you hold your weapon on your left hand makes me angry. im not discriminating against left-handed people im just mad
its normal thing in any fps games
for scout i would use the atomizer and Bonk atomic puch and go for tuant kills
Why not bonk it makes you invulnerable for a few seconds and allows you to get close with no downside and the slow down from damage taken won't matter much anyway considering you'll probably be killed if there's more than one aimbot.
The bot know using are using the bonk and they will actually hold on rather than mindlessly shooting.
I’ve got a nice Scout loadout.
It’s called bonk taunt kill scout. Drink Bonk! Atomic punch! And have a taunt kill bat ready. Then, walk up to a bot sniper, and taunt kill. Try and get them as close to a wall, too. So that if they move, they probably won’t get too far out of taunt kill range.
I dont know if you missed this or have a reason that im not aware of not to mention this, but scouts bonk: atomic punch is extremely useful against bots since it can distract them while your team guns them down.
As a Pyro, I tend to enjoy using the flare Gun against bots since heavies and sniper slow down when aiming or revving and move in a predictable pattern. For snipers you can hit one flare, survive the quick scope, and crit with the second flare. For heavy, you always want to be at range since the minigun will be less effective and they’ll be unable to prevent you from doing 90 burst damage at range per flare. Scorch shot is arguably better for CC as the flare gun has problems when dealing with groups, but if you’re just dealing with one bot at a time and they aren’t over healed then the flare gun is a good pick.
Good details for scout users
For certain bots, bonk can make them waste their shots.
Upon getting in close proximity, the bots often switch to melee, and your shotgun deals more damage.
I got an idea for a top 9 loadouts idea, dunno if anyone recommended this before, and it's kinda hard to make a name for, but, best self class countering loadouts, like for example, for Scout, it would be a loadout for countering other Scouts, Pyro, a loadout for countering other Pyros's etc.
For Heavy i use iron curtain or brass beast. Dalokahs bar or banana as secondary and the GRU as melee
A lv 2 or 3 sentry can shut down any bot and a entire team of engis can completely stop any bot (or player) from going anywhere near your nest
also the pomson 6000's projectile fires BELOW your crosshair and is so slow the bots probably will not even get hit and if I remember correctly the rescue ranger does more damage than the pomson
What about the Bonk and the Boston basher?
I was going to say bonk because you are invincible for a few seconds,but now that you move slowly after the effect wears when you get shot it may not be,use the bonk only if there are multiple at diffrent agles that winger wouldnt work,then use bonk to kill at least one with ease