The Walking Dead Season 2 Episode 7 "Pretty Much Dead Already" Reaction/Review
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- The Walking Dead Season 2 Episode 7 "Pretty Much Dead Already" Reaction/Review
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The significance of Rick shooting her was that the entire time Shane's whole angle is that he is the one making all of the hard decisions , and that Rick isn't capable of that. This shows that Shane has been taking the easy way out, and that Rick is the one capable of making the truly difficult decisions.
Also, Dale is the best. Period.
Agreed.
Yep, always has been all the way thru, that's why I love this character
Nate Baldree nah, it was a "she is dead because of me and i have to do it" everyone was shocked and i’m sure Shame would have shot her
FBI we got em we got em Shane didn’t and wouldn’t, he hesitated and looked surprised. He talked all the tough shit, but in the end couldn’t follow through with it.
Sophia’s human death was in no way Rick’s fault, he told her to stay put while go goes and kills the walkers coming their way, but she got scared and ran off and went missing. Sure Rick might’ve felt he was to blame, but he was also the only one we capable of doing it
What? Lol how did you come to that conclusion? To me this episode told us how shane was actually RIGHT because Sophia was actually already dead like he predicted. Rick knew that he was wrong the whole time Because he wanted to hang on to hope. And it was because of this "hope" that Rick was hanging on to that made shane so upset. Shane knew better than anyone else that a little girl isn't going to survive out in the wild alone for days and nights with dead people walking around trying to eat her. Shane was right, but his execution was too aggressive. Whereas Rick was too passive and didn't think about the well-being of his group. The barn was a hazard to the safety of everybody on the barn and yet Rick was willing to hold them by the neck with a stick and pull them in to the barn. Rick was just as guilty as Shane was because he was comprising the very same thing he wanted to protect, his family and his group. Rick was the one who took the final shot because he had to do it. He knew Shane couldn't do it because even though Shane didn't want to find the girl he didn't want to see the gurl actually die too. Shane was just scared for his safety hence killing off the walkers was his top priority. Either it was exterminating the barn or leaving the barn because he was scared. And Rick is guilty because of his pride that led him to keep thinking everything will be okay when clearly Shane is not okay with his opinion. Shane is also part of the people he is trying to protect but at the same time Shane is afraid of his way of protecting him because of the hazard and threat the zombies in the barn poses! Everything conflicts and this was a cool way to show how both characters could be right AND wrong at the same time. You can't deny that Shane was right. How could a normal human being take a shot to the heart and still keep moving? Because it's not a normal human anymore. They're dead. Instead of Rick telling Shane he was sorry, he shot Sophia because he still wanted to keep his pride as a "leader". Rick had too much pride and it stopped him from considering his best friend's feelings when he knew he was right because Shane was the only person who could fight Rick 1 to 1. Rick saw Shane as threat not because he's dangerous but because of his pride not letting him lose. We finally get to see his pride come in to full effect and his ego consumes him at the end of season 2 and he gave his speech "this is not a democracy". It consumes him and eats at him in season 3 and he still has nightmares about killing Shane to this very day because he knew he could have approached everything differently.
If it were Carl missing, Shane never would've stopped looking and would have killed anyone for trying to stop him. Him opening that barn was about him being Rick-blocked.
Dale is the moral compass of the group. And in some way represents the cling on to ones personal humanity in those trying times.
K B exactly I respect his way of thinking but they all needed to be like Shane to survive
@@Fbitypeshit clearly not cause shane didn’t survive lmao
The funny thing is how much they like Shane and dislike Dale when the majority consensus of fans is the complete opposite.
True, but he was annoying as hell, and the way he treated Shane was disrespectful as hell. Dale was holding onto humanity and all that, but imo his views were outdated for the state the world was in. Shane was a true survivor and if he wasn't in love with Rick's wife I think he wouldn't have died. Shane should have been alive all the way up until he most recent season.
@thevengefulone3974 uhhh Shane was literally gonna kill Rick that’s the only reason Rick killed him, and regardless Lori saying those things was because of how shane was acting. If he wasn’t In love with and trying to steal his best friends wife and kid then he would still be alive….
Been waiting for this one. Shane was right to "show" Hershel the truth. However, when the shoe was on the other foot, it wasn't so easy. Rick stepped up when nobody else would. Morgan struggled with this, too, even though he fully understood the zombies. Hershel truly thought they were sick.
Exactly. Shane aint about that life. He killed them walkers in the barn but couldn't put Sophia to rest. This is why Rick is a great man.
Exactly. Y'all both speaking facts
I think it was more the shock that stopped Shane, and the fact that he realized how much time they wasted.
fizzychizzy Rick doesnt stay great though, Shane is like a kitten compared to him
Yall all sound stupid that scene was meant for Rick to kill Sophia and put an and to the first half of the season's two conflict of "the search for Sophia" which was Rick's own fault to begin with anyway! He was the dumbass that expected a scared 12 yr old to stay put and find her way back to the highway if he didn't come back (did he even give her a time limit? how would she know when to actually stop waiting for him? she could have waited up to 5 or 2 hours for him before he eventually came back). That was a dumb move and I get why he had to make that quick decision but it was clearly the wrong one! Rick was constantly wrong in season 2 and that's the truth but go off (get off shane's dick and let it go!!1)
alright, so to clear up just one detail, Hershel never knew Sophia was in the barn. it was Otis who put all the walkers in the barn. he never got the chance to tell them because Shane killed him the night they met him.
This the episode where rick became the true leader of the group
True dat it was the day he started to shoulder the heavy dark burdens for the group
well shane did it first, while hershel thought his family was alive in that barn everybody could have die, Rick even go with hershel's way and then... shane did what need to be done, they seriously needed to wake before all the walkers kill em in their sleep, Rick and hershel were blind at this point, you can even see that Rick became mile shane at Alexandria, the only difference is that almost everybody got killed for Rick to realize it
FBI we got em Rick still has more compassion and is less unstable than Shane, even at his worst moments
Shane > Rick
FBI we got em yep
It's ironic how Shane was the one who wanted to stop looking for Sophie, but was ultimately the one who ended up finding her. 😂
"Think about what you're doing-"
"I've thought about it."
"Think about-"
"I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT!"
"Well, think about it again, we can't go out there!'
Best dialogue ever xD
Fact.
You have some low standards
@@bradsmith2661 It's golden! it's supposed to be a serious conversation but I bet they had many takes on that particular scene because they'd laugh
Mothified I suppose I know what you mean. What I love about this show is that it doesn’t need complex dialogue. Sometimes silence can seem just as loud as an action-packed scene and I love how guys like rick and Daryl can make you shit your pants with one sentence.
Y’all better stop disrespecting old man Dale!
Dale is a good guy.
@@pauletteleroy People like Dale are too soft for the apocalypse
@@liliks14 maybe, but he is still alive/ I think he just has a different moral compass than---let's say--Shane. Shane is more survival of the fittest, but he has something else brewing in him. Have you seen most of the Walking Dead? I don't want to say anything to spoil it for you.
You only realise how cool he was after to be fair 🤣
I didn't like Dale either, old nosy whiny bitch.
Fun fact: Sophia is still alive in the comics... so this was a shock even for comic book readers...
damn didn't know that.. how does that affect carol's character tho? is it different from the show or its the same ?
@@leonbelmont4028 if im not mistaken in the comics, carol's character does not follow the same route as it does in the show. Very interesting to see the difference between the comics and the show.
@@leonbelmont4028 well, honestly the comics and the show are very different from the first season actually, for example carol dies rather early in the comics but sophia lives , characters personalities are different, some villains are way creepier and more disgusting in the comics than the show. For me, I like the show better than the comics, but I think both are great stories only set in parallele universes. The good thing is we know how the Comics ended, which I really liked, hoping the show will do something similar. If you love graphic novels I recommend the comics, but some of the major characters in the show do not exist in the comics. I'm not saying any names cause I don't wanna spoil anyone.
@@leonbelmont4028 in the comic books Carol falls in love with Rick and Lori and wants a threesome relationship with them. They decline and call her crazy and she kills her self, this happens while they are living at the prison.
Sophia and Carl both live forever and grow old together to the end of the comics. Sophia sort of becomes the Carol we see in the show. It’s like they just switched places.
@@leonbelmont4028 carol died early in the comics they swapped Sophia and carol
Heya gang, did y'all remember when Rick prayed in the church for a sign from God - like anything - to show him the way to finding Sophia? And then the deer showed up, which led to Carl getting shot, then the farm, and then the following chain of events that eventually led to this episode where we finally found Sophia in the barn as a walker. So i.e. Rick prayed, and God delivered. Poetic stuff.
nice comment
Ew
Wow never thought about it tbh, at quick glance it seems like God didn’t answer him, but in reality, in a kind of twisted way, he did.
@@jacobherrera8735 To quote rick "gods got a strange sense of humor"
It's easy for Shane to be the hard boy when it's a bunch of strangers. He couldn't pull the trigger when it really counted. That's why Rick's the Man. A mad dog comes in handy sometimes, but eventually it has the be put down.
How long until the dog that you feed bites your hand? Basically what ended up happening.
Yeah only reason he could kill Otis was because he didn't know him.
Shane spent more time with Sofia than Rick. And I can’t imagine it ever being easy to shoot someone you knew
nahh my guy, rick was gonna get everybody killed by putting other walkers with hershel in that barn, shane was the man and woke everybody up, they fucking sleep 20 metres for there, rick came because that's his fault if Sophia died, he felt guilty and did it, shane would have had no problem doing it, he was just shocked like everyone
@@Fbitypeshit yep Can yu tell these idiots plz
Jimmy Macram’s opening for TWD!
Sophia 😭
American Mum convince them to react to Lost!
That actor that played Shane, going to get an Oscar sometime in his life
jamal bryant you really dont know his name? Everyone knows him. Even they knew who he was in the first episode.. hes the FREAKING Punisher
Alpha Wolf the punisher is not his real government name
John Bernthal guys.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Jon*
Yeah agree he's so good acting Shane
This is the episode when I started liking Daryl. Carol would have committed suicide by walker if he didn’t stop her from running to Sophia.
As to time for the show: it’s been about 3 or 4 days since Sophia went missing when they find her in the barn.
Carol is like a fine wine. & that’s all I’ll say for now
I feel like Carol looks the same every season, lol
The Legacy of Gaming lol. She looks the same but she doesn’t stay the same
Seriously? I started loving Daryl since Sophia got lost and he wouldn't stop looking for her. And before then he was never too bad. He was just grumpy because he just lost his brother. And he kept helping the group serving as their hunter even after they left his brother for dead (the brother being an asshole doesn't justify what they did).
i agree with shane on almost all his decisions its just that he chooses the worst ways to explain them so he always comes off as horrible. Plus he is low key crazy when it comes to lori and carl which is the thing i dislike about him
Shane was a really good survivalist but the everything around him finally took it's tole on him and turned him crazy, like many other people later on
@@animegamer489 Yeah i'm glad he came to his senses again in season 6
Also the fact that he tried to rape Lori. So big yikes
If Shane hadn't KILLED OTIS for no reason they would have known the very first day what happened to Sophia. Is he going to acknowledge that this is mostly his fault? Nooooope. He's just going to keep bitching that Rick and Hershel and Dale are too soft. Zero responsibility.
Shane sucks.
def -- his obsession with Lori clouds all his other judgements even when he has the right idea
In the words of Jimmy Macram, “Hersel should have kicked them out like yesterday.” (lol)
😂😂😂
I like Dale, he's a good guy, good heart. y'all mean. lol
Shane's speech was amazing. Loved that scene. Loved how Rick stepped it up too. Sophia being in the barn shocked me, I cried when Carol came running to her. Shane is rough around the edges, but a lot of what he's been saying was truth.
Shane isn't "rough around the edges". If anything, he's a good performer. But he doesn't think before he acts. He doesn't put the group first, and he's always a pussy at the critical moment.
@@johnjungkook2721 Opening the barn and killing the walkers was putting the group first. They were in danger, he solved it.
RIP Scott Wilson aka Herschel. Great actor!
finally some younger men that actually see past grey hair and see the beauty of Carol. Carol is beautiful and a lot of young people are like, "Carol is old" "why do people ship Daryl and Carol, she's old"...shes not old, she just has grey hair and she is still very pretty. so I'm glad to hear you all find her attractive.
She was alright then but that short hair shit doesn't work for me
Brown Papi cant fuck with short hair, on anyone, idc how pretty you are. But if she had longer hair...lawd
@@blueknightcraze6766 yeah she could get the long stroke with longer hair
Gray hair isn't attractive to me personally. If your hair isn't black or a dark color in general, it's not attractive. To me darker colors signify the vitality of a person. I'm not attracted to people who look like they can fade away at any moment.
Facts. Somehow they know not to sleep on her... regardless of what she's been through.
If Shane hadn't killed Otis they would've been knew Sophia was in the barn.
Shane was ahead of his time dangg
He'd fit right in in the later seasons
Ha 😂 this is kinda a spoiler
They would almost be finished the season
Jimmy Dean Bowl nah he would’ve become Negan by season 4-5
He's more like the punisher
I'm with Robbie, Carol fine!
DALE IS THE G.O.A.T!!!
"This is up there with Game Of Thrones" You damn right.
Also, subscribed.
Rick took the shot because he’s always the one that mans up and takes responsibility. Shane, regardless of all his big talk, didn’t do it. Everyone was just standing there stunned, and Rick did what had to be done. As he always does.
The big difference between Shane and Rick (IMO) is Rick has honor, Shane doesn’t.
Bro how can y’all hate dale!!! Rick is my dawg but even he annoys me with the way he ignored Shane’s darkness. Everybody keeps trying to ignore and hope the next person doesn’t say anything. Dale is the only one real enough to call a spade a spade.
Dale is nosy.
@@alamoja You need to be nosy when dealing with psychos
Facts
Yes, yes Carol is cute. 😍
Yesss... so, so... cute, that Carol. >_>
Bad-ass
He's like 9 years old all of you chill out
@@darkangel6679 ? I said Carol not Carl
@@LIVIA1797 you said he's cute and he's like 9
Wellz smiling the entire Sophia scene...he got some problems lol 😂
Credit to Rick right here. Shane acts all tough likes he's the only one who can make the tough decisions and he's fine shooting up a barn full of someone else's reanimated family and friends but Rick is the only one willing to step up and do the difficult thing for one of their own.
I agree with Rob. The moment they found out there were walkers in the barn, somebody should have checked for Sophia. They looking all over & around for her, but they hear of walkers basically in front of their noses and they do nothing. It took Shane ranting & raving like a lunatic to take a look inside. Shame. And Evan (?DC) is right, too - the way Shane play, I wouldn't want him on my team either. :-) ♡
Possibly the best episode of the series, the rest of this season is crazy!
Everytime see this scene, makes me tear up! Intense, sad...but beautifully shot!
i think rick killing sophia is one of the first big turning points of his character
I was waiting for y'all to get to this episode. This is when I realized this was a great show.
how do y'all not understand that shane is not right. it's hershels property and he said you can't stay. Shane had absolutely no right to do anything. if he had a problem with the walkers he should have left with anyone else that had a problem with the way hershel was handling his property. period.
shane is also wrong about Sophia. regardless of the fact that Sophia actually was dead. it doesn't matter the odds. if a child is lost you don't stop looking until you find a body dead or alive. anyone who doesn't agree can leave (like shane) anyone who still wants to help the mother out shoulf be allowed to do so because that is what makes us human. animals only do what means they survive (shane). humans do what is right regardless of the self-risk. rick is selfLESS, Shane is selfish. he only cares about his own survival. not the needs and wellbeing of others.
THAT SCENE WITH BABY MAGGIE SMASHING THE EGG ON BABY GLENN’S HEAD (who still has his hat) GAVE ME THE NOSTALGIC FEELS!!! SO CUTE!
I don't get it...how can they hate Dale........wtf
This was easily the hardest death for me to handle in the series....RIP Sophia...
yall needa keep puttin up 2 a day plz
I don’t care what anyone says, Shane had just as much right to his child as Lori and Rick did.
Another great episode. This one hurt though. One of the most shocking and saddest moment in the show. RIP Sophia.
- Yvette
I always laugh my ass off with the commentary after the episode! The absolute best!😂😍😍
honestyl I forgot how amazing this show at the beginning was, it's been a while
I forgot how annoying Hershel was in the beginning...But fuck I love that dude!
I know this a late comment but I really enjoyed your discussion after the reaction. You guys are really smart and understand the characters well.
I like how they keep comparing rick and shane as rick being the “good guy” and shane bein the “bad guy” makes me laugh every time
"She used to pour me whiskey shots, man. We're gonna put her in the barn. Nah, I'm good, bro. We cool on this one"
"So what happens if you can't fit people in the barn anymore?"
"Just let 'em live in the house..." 😂😂
This ep is the first time I cried seeing a walker die😢 for this whole ep I was with Shane regarding killing walkers in the barn....but when Sophia walked out of the barn.....it got me...conscience hit me hard...I let out the tears....damn!!! This series is so deep than u think nd the Screenplay, bgm , acting...jst everything is so perfect❤💥
y'all like shane too much, and hate on dale too much.
Nah, they hate Dale just the right amount. Agree on Shane though.
Love Shane's dialogue this ep but Rick really the best
9:39 This is still the realest moment in the show. Shane is THAT nigga
shane acted all tough like hes making all the hard decisions but froze when he saw sophia. rick had to step up during THE hardest choice.
Yo, I'm late af with this but they basically confirmed that Sophia died within the first 3 days being lost which is sad. Otis is the one that put her there and we see him in the 2nd episode. One of the group also confirms that they're on day 3 of the search, and by that time, Otis and Shane already went to the school.
Love that scene where Rick steps up, nobody else had the balls!
Comments are defending Dale but I'm with y'all. Dude was so confident about his pre-apocalyptic moral compass that he was becoming a survival liability for the rest of the group. What would have happened if nobody found the guns and the walkers escaped the barn one night? Dale was a good guy but I couldn't stand him by the end, acting like he was the only sensible moral authority of the group.
This was one of the first episodes of the series that just blew my mind
Looking for Sophia was them clinging to their humanity. While Shane can be a prick sometimes he showed them what they need to become to stay alive. Difficult times call for difficult decisisons.
Jon Bernthal is the perfect angry man .
Dude fucking kills it in the Punisher.
"Is that Sophie" lol....exactly my reaction...
This was the first scene where I cried so hard...its so sad
"oh noooo, is that Sophie??" sends me cause of the reaction and cause her name is Sophia LOLOLOL
When Sophia comes out if the barn, the two dudes on the left smiling and the two on the right in total shock. Dude in the middle can’t even watch🤣
You are correct Carol is very cute. Hot even.
Can't believe y'all are just now watching this..The acting and stories get better and better
Dale was the father figure they all need 😢
Something I’ll never understand is why they didn’t look in the barn after they discovered that Herschel was keeping any Walkers he found within the barn.
I mean, they were tearing open walker’s stomachs to check for Sophia’s remains. But didn’t check the barn once?
I understand it’s a show & the reveal is for shock value lol but it also would have been pretty damn impactful for Carol to go to the Hayloft and find her daughter standing among the dead below.
When rob said Herschel is dead I fell to the floor ! Lmao
This episode is the best so far, 2022. It shows you why Rick was the leader. Excellent episode. My Favorite.
Great video felllas! But I love Dale. Also screw hindsight; looking for Sophia is the right decision morally, even if not pragmatically. And the message of this show to me is that in the long run humanity is a key factor to survival. Also also, notice how Shane can easily mow down Hershel's family, but as soon as one of their own walks out he cannot do a damn thing. Only Rick was strong enough to do what needed to be done. He immediately pulled back the reigns from Shane.
The one episode that had me sobbing. And made me a lifelong fan. Thankyou for such an amazing journey. TWD my second family. My fave character Negan. God i love that guy. ❤
STILL the best episode ever. the fact that Jon Burnthal didn't win an emmy for this alone proves awards shows are bullshit.
This definitely isn’t the best episode bro😂 it’s really Peak but it’s definitely not top 5 eps in Twd
@@itz_swyte in your world perhaps, but in mine it is STILL the best ever. and guess what, i don't really give a flying rats ass about your world.
@@rockzhard2009 bro is pressed over a comment 🤦♂️🤣 ur delusional af if you really think this the best
@@rockzhard2009 idk why you saying my world when mostly every twd fan would disagree with you 😂
Na Evan KILLED that Maggie "Hey walker bait!" impression yo🤣
The episode that I first realized what this show was all about!
Re. Sophia, at some point after she ran way from the highway she was attacked by a Walker (we can see she's got dried blood on her neck and shoulder in this episode). She got away from the Walker (otherwise she would have been killed outright and she''d have been eaten) but of course as we know, walker inflicted wounds are fatal long-term. The tragic thing is she's just a little kid whodied on her own somewhere, without her mom (or anyone else) and probbaly not knowing what was happening or why😭
If Herschel had been honest with Rick from the jump he could have let him take at look in the barn and he could have identified Sofia. It would have saved a lot of time and heartache.
One of the best episodes in the series.
Shane was that guy
i still like how at carl (chandler riggs) actually did a minecraft playthrough at this time this season was shot
Did you notice...Rick literally stepped in front of Shane to handle what need to be handled. That's a sign.
One of my favorite early episodes man Shane had me on the edge
Rick is my favourite character he's such a good leader he is smart he knows what he's doing, And yeah he makes some mistakes along the way but he learns from his mistakes and becomes a better leader in every season! Shane was a good leader i too but he became crazy shortly after Rick showed up he started making rash decisions and became obsessed with Lori and Carl. I do like Shane he's a very good actor! but not fit to be a leader not anymore. Anyways great reaction as always! I love watching you guys can't wait for the next one! :)
I've been WAITING for you to get to this one lol... To this day, this is my favorite episode. Not saying there aren't some great shows coming up, but that might have been the best 10-15 minutes of television I've ever seen. This was the moment that changed everything to me. To this point, they were ALL still naïve as to how bad things were. Sophia represented "hope."
The second she comes out of that barn, reality hits, and they all realize that there is no hope. #gamechanger
This reaction had the best reactions from you guys. Ive been waiting for this! Man when i first saw this episode for the first time, hearing Shane's speech I reacted the same as you guys, but when I saw Sophia and then Carol running towards her calling her name I teared up. The acting in this show only gets better. I cant wait to see how you guys react to the next ones because things only get more inyense from this point on.
So glad ya’ll love the show
So this the show that finally got Rob animated
I like it when Robbie is in a good mood, it makes me smile =)
Is there a schedule for these episodes or are you dropping them randomly? Keep em pouring
TedolinY randomly
This was the first time I broke down crying 😭 when walkerSofia was revealed of course, not the last time
Go back and look at when they were making a plan on the car hood how maggie and herschel looked at each other...i always thought they knew she was in there the whole time.
They definitely did :D
In the next episode, you can tell Hershel is lying when he says "I didn't know" to Shane, by the tone of his voice. And when Glenn asks Maggie, she over react, but doesn't answer him with yes or no.
I disagree. I don’t think they knew. Otis was the one who put walkers in the barn before he died. I fully believed that Hershel and Maggie never knew...and I think Maggie gets angry with Glenn when he asks because she’s offended that he would think she would hide that from them....not because she knew Sofia was in there. What would their reasoning be for hiding her? There would be no motive for them to hide that.
I don’t think they knew...and if they did, I believe the show would’ve done something with it at some point, but after they’re asked and they deny knowing she was there, it wasn’t brought up again.
@@lindsh6097 Exactly. They couldn't possibly know. Their secret was that they were keeping walkers in the barn.
It wasn't relevant for the storyline if they knew it or not, so it was just left out.
Even tough Ottis was the one putting them in the barn, he still brought each walker through the open field. It's very likely the rest of them could see from the house when he was bringing someone new, and a little girl would be a specially disturbing event.
When they first mention finding Sophia in front of them, Maggie gives Hershel a look, and he just makes a "No" gesture with his head. He probably decided not to tell them, because he didn't know how they would react on the "sick people" he was keeping in the barn.
If I had a sick wife and stepson in my barn, and knew the strangers in my land believed they should be killed, I wouldn't tell them either. Let them give up on their search for the girl, and move on eventually. That's a pretty good reason.
I'm with Wilkins....wow....wow....wow....wow....wow....
Rick=Martin Luther King
Shane= Malcolm X
They both are survivors just have different ways of going about it and this theme will continue through the show
shan was the man
a realist who saw where to set the priorites
the ending of him was kinda weak written since they needed to rush the production it wasnt originally planned to end that way
I'm excited to see yall journey on the walking dead, it's got emotional moments, bad ass moments and wtf moments. Hopefully yall watch all of the series it's an awesome show, I myself have watched it since the beginning. Peace and yall got a new subscriber
I love robs reaction hes too funny
and just a quick fun tidbit of info.. that's helpful to know is that Otis put her into the Barn. He found her BEFORE he accidently shot Carl. Shane was wrong , and Rick was right in looking Sophia. Yeah , it didn't work out, but that doesn't make Shane right, and it's good that Carol got closure.
T Dog not letting that arm injury stop him, good to see
Bruh on the left, what you mean it's Hershel's fault? Did you see any walkers attacking that camp? You know why? Did they ever hear them before and wasn't it far enough from the house?... They should have minded their business. It's not his fault Lori was having a baby. Shane jeopardized all that to do it his way. Now what?... Going out in the woods again with a baby crying, good move. Bottom line, that was his land; If he wanted to eat dinner at the table with them, his perogative, keep it moving. If he's in a alcohol jacuzzi kicking back Jack and Cokes wit 'em, his spot. Wait till the barn fills up or they get killed grabbing em. That dude that shot Carl probably brought her in and didn't tell anyone. But I think it's weird that lady feeding them didn't notice a kid... they needed more kids in the mix for deniability. Back to Hershel: Y'all can say what you want, he didn't have to save Carl or let them stay there and it may have 'needed' to happen, but it wasn't Shane's place... Acting like he's running his sh*t. I would have had more respect if he let them out and led them to Hershel and the family at night to get the land... Then he could have ran thangs. He was extra amped cause he lost his piece. And I want to know why Lori kept running up in his face: You said even if it was his, it wasn't and cut him off... be gone wench.
The part with Sophia made me cry because I have a 4 year old