That would be good thing for the B12, especially PITT and WVU who could live without the Brawl but would prefer to have it. PITT sells out 3 games: WVU, PSU and ND when in Pittsburgh. Other than that there 5K fans show up.
Same here. I would love to have: Louisville & Pittsburgh in the Big 12 with American teams like Tulane and South Florida. Would help with travel for eastern teams in the conference too.
Hey man. I have brand new equipment. But my lighting is broken arm. But other than that i have a 4k camera, and a 300$ microphone. I appreciate the comment tho
West Virginia, like the Big 12 needs to be patient and allow the ACC to dismantle itself. The dismantling will either take place internally at the end of their media rights or it will take place with ESPN dismantling the conference, or the schools will agree to be removed from the conference collectively. We are all waiting for the expansion opportunities for the Big 12 to bring schools from the ACC into our conference.
@@aiden395 The BIG12 has "literally" been relegated down to a new Tier 2 after losing its top 6 (net) and now consisting of ~33% G5 equivalents. I can see it thriving at the Tier 2 level, but it will be increasingly unstable if it continues to expand.
@@aiden395 LOL... No self-awareness. The BIG12 has already collapsed and rebuilt. Compare the original BIG12 with the new. The ACC should similarly survive.
Once the renovation of the runway at local airport on the Mileground in Morgantown is finally completed for incoming and outgoing flights, a charter flight may be more affordable.
you would just fly into Pittsburgh then drive the 75 miles to Morgantown. It would be a lot cheaper than flying into a small regional airport. The entire WVU is hard to get to is way overblown and inaccurate.
When WVU was winning games that mattered with White and Slaton etc, they were respected. We overachieved some and it was magical. They said OU would beat us in fiesta bowl. Why? Because we lost to USF and Pitt. They’d aid UGA would beat us in sugar bowl. Why? Because we had a freshman quarterback and played in a terrible conference going up against the SEC champs. These aren’t slights….its just good common sense. WVU winning those games is magical….partly because it was so unexpected.
WVU alum here.. Paul’s point about overall image/brand of our program is very accurate. What Deion at Colorado proved is that you can rebrand an image is a very short amount of time. We need something that sets us apart in recruiting.. Oregon did it with their uniform and facilities and they built on it.. I’m sorry but a coal mining helmet for an interception at the sideline is not going to impress a 4,5 star talent .. Building a modern identity and brand has to be on top of the list for our program.
Colorado players are all transferring and Deon will ultimately be fired after this season . No just because of his record but because of his loose lips .
College Football needs 4 power conferences to maximize economic results. West Virginia needs to be in a rebuilt ACC with Cincinnati, Syracuse & Pittsburgh. Compete for one of the automatic CFP every year. College Football is not the NFL. Regional Interest and creating more interesting storylines is important. See NCAA basketball tournament.
The ACC will go the way of the Pac12 when Clemson and FSU leave. And Clemson and FSU aren't coming to the Big12. The whole point is to get into the SEC or B1G.
Paul got a new job and now will forget about me and the WVU fans 😢. Bro I didn’t know you got a job on here . I subscribed and started liking the content
Avid lifelong WVU fan here…..a big problem is our fans. The super unrealistic view and expectations. Most of our fans are allergic to logic and see any attempt to point this out as “hate”. Last year we won nine games, but got blown off the field by both good teams we played. And also had the luxury of not playing Kansas or Texas. There were obvious improvements, but today we are being disrespected when we haven’t proven ANYTHING is typical WVU fan nonsense. I’ll be happy with 8 wins this year! Because I’m a realistic fan that doesn’t feel slighted and undervalued.
Good points but 8 wins is a little much. 6-6 likely and a new contract for Brown. Always next year but next year never comes. However, most WVU fans luv talking themselves into unrealistic expectations for Brown and WVU football.
oklahoma state went to the big 12 championship and we shouldve won that game. we were in the game for 3 quarters against penn st with an offense that hadn't found itself yet. put the offense from any game past the texas tech game against penn st we may even win and the environment was insane (I was there). we did get cooked by oklahoma tho.
Getting WV some great rivals should be the #1 priority for Brett Y. Obviously, if we can get FSU and Clemson, we should do it. But Virginia Tech, Pitt, Syracuse and Louisville would be great adds as well. Even Georgia Tech would be an awesome addition.
As a diehard lifelong fan, I know WV Sports real well. We do good as underdogs when our backs are to the wall, BUT when we’re Supposed to Win the Big Games, we almost Always come up short. (We’re the Buffalo Bills of College Football and it’s historically been real Painful being a Mountaineer.) Neal Brown is a unique coach for us, so maybe, just maybe, with him WVU wins when we’re supposed to. We’ll see.
We solve this whole debate by WV going to the ACC. We should have never went into the Big 12. If WV would have been smart we would have had Louisville's spot in the ACC where we were better fit for as a football program. Don't get me started on Brown!!!!
a) L'VILLE could get the votes while WVU would not. b) After the SEC/B1G finish expanding, the P5 remainders should amicably realign into smaller regionals.
Brown has recruited better than any previous WVU coach. Brown has put more WV natives in gold and blue and developed them and put them on the field more than any other WVU coach. Fraizer, Clement, Martin, Fox, Nester, Milum, just to name a few. He came in had to deal with Covid, drastic portal changes, adjusting to NIL along with our own athletic director stating that the university was behind the curve with the country roads trust, and also had to overcome the train wreck of a culture Holgerson left in the wake of his departure. People that hate on Brown don't look at the full picture, he has us going in the right direction. Good things come with time, not everything is instant gratification.
@@tarheel7406a lot of people don’t like Wvu state of wv broke away became a not slave state. Southerners give no love. Although in 93 season Tennessee fans were great. We Are hillbillies but ass kicking and intelligent bible carrying fans not all
Yes. Been saying for over 2 years that the eventual P5 remainders should amicably realign into smaller regionals, including an 8-10 member new BIGEAST.
The Big12 does not dictate the timeline of when (or even if) programs will leave the ACC. All the Big 12 can do is make the choice obvious and easy by working hard to increase the brands value and working with network partners to agree to give future members from the ACC a full share if the time comes.
I get it, we're all fans of our own team. However, this guy isn't just drinking the kool-aid, he's waterboarding himself with it. Interested to hear his excuses IF West Virginia goes 6-6.
We won 9 games last year and return almost everyone. It's not that hard. PRE season everyone thought Texas Tech and TCU was a murderers row last year of a schedule and they ended up sucking. So I don't wanna hear schedule. You know where to find me. Click this bubble if you wanna hold me accountable!
@@GDoggy-em2xc Yes and NO. If WVU would start winning consistently and beat some good OFC schools like PSU SEC might consider. However, WVU ADM does not want the SEC or any such conference that gives WVU to much exposure. The Fans just the opposite but they have little if any say in WVU leadership on or off the field. WVU likes the 6-6 , 7-5 seasons and a minor bowl. Then they always have next year that never comes.
@@pitchshot2868 Except for TX/OK (I'm assuming), the SEC again tested the waters with UNC/UVA before expanding with AR/USCAR and again with TXAM/MO. As things stand, what was considered never a real possibility is now within reach for the SEC. As a result, the SEC isn't expanding in a way that may harm its chances of securing those two priority targets, and that includes adding WVU.
It's funny how ACC fans are asking we try poach teams from the Big 12! ACC is working on private equity money to boost per school revenue and they will win that battle vs. Big12 efforts especially as ACC alums run alot of those operations.
It makes sense if the ACC is after WVU,Cincinnati, UCF,USF and UCONN ( whenever FSU,Clemson and Miami leave). Cause basically you'll have the Big East Schools and a number of ACC schools still. And all will be still regional.
WVU has been saying it's underrated ever since joining the Big 12. They had a few good years with Holgorsen as head coach and a "good" year last year because of a mostly easy 2023 schedule. One thing we've noticed is that WVU fans are like the only B12 school whose fans have no earthly idea what talent is on the other teams. Even if WVU has improved, UCF (as one example) has gotten way more new talent compared to WVU. WVU keeps adding other programs' cast-offs and a lot of G5 talent. We see WVU in the bottom 1/4 of the B12.
Fatorma Mulba- Penn State, Jaden Bray- Oklahoma State- Jaheem Joeseph- Northwestern, Garnett Hollis, Northwestern, Justin Robinson- Mississippi State, T.J Jackson- Troy all conference Reid Carrico- OHIO STATE. So what were u saying again? Bc these are all p4 transfers and one VERY GOOD g5 player. How about shutting your mout and learn not to be so casual. Only thing i remember about UCF is kicking their ass last year.
@@hoopsfromthehills October 28, 2023 on the road in Orlando, FL, it was WVU 41 UCF 28. HC Malzahn said his Knights could not stop the WVU running game and GG was outstanding. Let's not forget the 4 TO's and 2 INT 's by Beanie Bishop working hard to earn a spot on the Steelers.
Memphis would be a good addition, especially with their partnership with FedEx. That said though, when there is a possibility that you could get ACC schools if the ACC does indeed implode or if 4-6 teams decided to leave, adding schools that are already from a Power Conference helps the look of the conference over elevating another G5.
I don't understand why the ACC doesn't prepare for FSU and Clemson to leave, and Add WVU, Cincinnati, UCF,USF And UCONN. Or better basically trade cause regionally SMU,Stanford,Cal needs to be in the Big 12 along with Oregon State and Washington state.
UNC UVA PITT and Miami currently negotiating w the BIG. Deal is imminent and will be announced once FSU and Clemson announce their move next offseason the SEC
Morgantown needs Huntington's attitude of gratitude and welcome in teams win or lose. Yeah,we're "lil brother," but teams are more receptive to Marshall because we dont go crazy or assault visitors.
@mountaineerpaultalksfootba4782 yet a law had to be passed to make couch burning a felony. Fan attitude hasn't changed at all when opponents come in, and I bet dollars to donuts security is still pretty tight. That LSU game in Morgantown changed things there. Facts isn't trash talk, but it obviously struck a deep nerve.
Not sure why WVU needs to "plead" for the BIG XII to add ACC schools (Pitt, Louisville, Miami, et al) when it seems very clear that the ACC schools are squarely the focus of Yormark and the BIG XII? I know there is lingering talk about the PAC 2, but they are highly unfavored by a majority of the BIG XII schools and fanbases. The ACC schools will be a much greater value to the BIG XII than the PAC 2. Let's focus on getting FSU, Clemson, Miami, Pitt, Louisville, NC State, Va Tech, BEFORE even glancing westward.
Remember when lots of BIG-12 fans thought, for a bit there, that you might well get Oregon and Washington? Not getting FSU and Clemson -- not going to happen.
@@LockedOnWestVirginia The Big12 plays 9 conference games so it’s only 4 or 5 times a year. The 3 non-con games don’t have to involve a lot of travel. 🤷🏽♂️
Plead all you want, only FSU and Clemson have the balls to go to court and challenge the ACC GOR in court, the other bastards (none including UNC) keep playing both sides, voting to sue FSU and Clemson all the while making plans to do the same on leaving the ACC when the lawsuits settle. They could have joined and made it a group suit but opted to stay behind and leave the dirty work to the two. FSU and Clemson should say F em and good riddance, file your own damned lawsuits and leave them behind.
Still confused? One of FSU's mistakes is going overly hostile in litigation. CLEMSON just filed for a dec judgment. Both the SEC and B1G will wait for UNC decision, and UNC can pursue more amicable solutions.
@@aCycloneSteve The PAC was delusional and incompetent, so it didn't preemptively backfill and rejected reasonable Tier 2 media deals. The ACC wasn't interested in UTAH (some claimed a partial share was offered), so the BIG12 was the option of last resort. Why don't you know this already?
Here's the thing I have no doubt that West Virginia and Big Ten discussions has mentioned the desire to bring in some ACC schools in certain names may have been dropped. I don't think that that would surprise anybody this is actually not news I wish you guys would stop pushing things that we have known since we first heard Clemson and Florida State filing suit. We're not being impatient what we are is getting irritated by the thought that the other two Pacific schools might come in Poughkeepsie prevent more Eastern schools. Now West Virginia was burned by a few of those programs in the ACC and they would be within their rights to do nothing to help the likes of those schools but West Virginia remembers its roots and its football was best when it played those schools. Like it or hate it that's the truth. I'm not saying that they're not up to Big 12 standard that's not what I'm saying. But these constant trolling about expansion come on find different content Drake it's getting old
I mean when it comes down to it, UL wants to play W. Virginia. Actually WVU & Cincy ought to be absorbed into the ACC for a really good fit. But they have to get better, WVU is average at best & Cincy didn't win a post season game in any sport last year.
ACC didn't want WVU when it was snatching up terrible football brands cause we're too stoopid for Wake, Duke, UVA, and UNC. Also top 20 in wins in both football and basketball, not average at best. Now WVU does not need the ACC. The ACC needs WVU.
@@schweber10 I would agree but we advocated for WVU & UC but ya'll just agreed to enter the Big12. As far as being too stupid idk, thats the joke but no one cares about academics, and NO the ACC doesn't need you, it just makes sense to have you. This is all going to implode anyways.
PPF College ranks WVU #25 along with 5 other Big XII schools in its Top 25 (AZ, UT, KSU, OkST and KU. PSU is ranked #10. 2024 Coaches Poll for preseason ranked WVU #33 but they finished #25 in the final 2023 Coaches Poll.
Okay Ken, then whoever the teams you've played your ENTIRE LIFE go away via Conference Realignment and you get tossed in a conference 1k miles away. Im sure you aren't gonna be happy about that.
@@aCycloneSteve Why would the future ACC be any less stable than the already Tier 2 BIG12? The BIG12 is far more scattered than the new [ACC]. Exit penalty? While I would agree, this channel posts daily vids about the B1G adding ACC schools with nary a mention of exit fees. You also seem a bit selective of the question.
@@tarheel7406 The XII has a fairly large exit fee. The ACC has a huge exit fee. Nothing is happening un the ACC until they deal with that. The ACC is unstable largely because they have teams that want to leave & other team that have signed up for long term second class status. With "perhaps" the exception of the Utah coach. PS: "The BIG12 is far more scattered than the new BIG12." What?
Yurcich being out is a PLUS for PSU. LOL! He got fired and the offense immediately improved. WVU is about to see an offensive scheme this year it didn't see last year. And BTW, they're facing an OC who knows their defense coming from the Big 12. There are losses on the O-line, but the problem is who does WVU have on their D-Line to take advantage of it? Especially if there will be a ton of presnap motion? Fleming is not the #2 WR at PSU. It will go Tre, Clifford, Fleming, Evans, Gallagher, Denmark. Unlike last year, you will see Singleton and Kaytron catch the ball a ton. Not sure how he left out one of the top running back duos from the conversation. And PSU is 3 deep at TE. PSU rarely runs a single TE set. And Tom Allen is a former elite SEC coordinator who is squarely focusing on defense instead of head coaching. PSU will drop from a top 3 defense to a top 10 since much isn't changing on that side of the ball. Who will PSU use to block Chop Robinson on one side and DDS on the other? And since Allen will play a 3 safety look, there's only so much WVU can do once the QB escapes the pocket. PSU never uses the full playbook in out of conference games. It'll be closer than last year, but no, WVU doesn't have the depth or talent to win a 4 quarter game against PSU.
@@LockedOnWestVirginia That's the point. Saying that PSU is at a disadvantage because of a new OC doesn't account for the fact the new OC is familiar with WVU. He's basically taking what worked and executing it with better talent. And he can also expand what worked since he has better talent.
@@magicray5088 I'll cheer for WVU in every game outside of PSU like I did last year. I think you have to do more with less and you're screwed being that far east in the Big 12. PSU was on an island in the B1G for years. I think if the question is, "How can WVU win?" then those are fair points about lacking chemistry on the O-Line and change in coordinators. But with him and guys like Kurtz feeling confident that WVU is 22 points better this year, that's where I'm pushing back. PSU is not a 3 TD favorite in this game. But I think 10.5 points is fair if it's played all 4 quarters.
@@heartbreak25 But im being put in a situation here on someone elses show and being asked "why will they win". You get me? Its not like i petitioned for the question its Drakes show and we didn't even go over the questions. It was all from the hip lol
Okay hot shot, you get on a show and get asked a question you haven't had time to prep for, and see how you do. I put 60 hours a week into what i do as a creator, what ab you?
@@LockedOnWestVirginia "hot shot?" lol ok. i guess we're going there. i've put in 39 years as a season ticket holder. how about you? also, any casual fan scrolling a message board would have ran across this topic at least once, so "no time to prep?" if you say so. if you know ANYTHING about WVU football, uofl would have been either second or third behind pitt and probably vt. do you not remember the 2005 game? 2006? we have history with louisville, and not just in football. and they're a border state. what history do we have with nc state, other than clobbering them at home in neal's first year? but whatever. good luck with your show.
@jD304304 I remember those games in 2005 (3 OT WVU win) and 2006 (Top 5 Thursday night game won by Louisville). I think between UofL and WVU only 1 or 2 of those games were blowouts as UofL had a bad coaching hire in 2007 and down years between 2007-2010. Most were close. I think that in 2007, it was a close, high scoring game that WVU won in the final minute. Louisville won the last one in Morgantown in another close, high scoring game in 2012, I think. I seem to recall a low scoring close game as well. Something like 17-10.
@@jD304304 This is MY OPINION. It would be DUMB DUMB DUMB to think only of wvu from a conference perspective in realignment and that is what I was trying to do. It's not all about us. And so I chose one of the best ran Athletic Departments out there. Sue me
Would love to get Louisville, Pitt, VA Tech, and NC State.
For what purpose for any of the parties?
I posted... and then saw your post. Great minds think a lot.🙂
Louisville would be a must add for me.
Pitt & Louisville makes a lot of sense for WV and Miami & FSU for UCF !
I want the backyard brawl in the new big 12
That would be good thing for the B12, especially PITT and WVU who could live without the Brawl but would prefer to have it. PITT sells out 3 games: WVU, PSU and ND when in Pittsburgh. Other than that there 5K fans show up.
Unfortunately Pitt has no interest in leaving the ACC. If that conference stays together I think Pitt will stay.
@@davidb3422 Keep them, PLEASE!
Same here.
I would love to have:
Louisville & Pittsburgh in the Big 12 with American teams like Tulane and South Florida. Would help with travel for eastern teams in the conference too.
I want Virginia tech on the schedule .
LOCKED ON WEST VIRGINIA?!?!!? FINNNALLLLYYYY LETSG GOOOO PAUL IS A GREAT CHOICE TO RUN THIS SHOW
Glad to see some love to the eastern schools. Like to see more on UC, UCF, and WVA.
Excited for Locked on West Virginia. Hopefully the Locked On crew can help Paul out with some lighting and maybe some better equipment!
Hey man. I have brand new equipment. But my lighting is broken arm. But other than that i have a 4k camera, and a 300$ microphone. I appreciate the comment tho
@@LockedOnWestVirginialet’s gooo Paul! My man
Congrats Paul on the new gig! Keep hustling. Great content fellas
Thanks!
Doce Grande!! Welcome Mountaineer Paul. Let's Go Mountaineers!!
Thanks Jay!
West Virginia, like the Big 12 needs to be patient and allow the ACC to dismantle itself. The dismantling will either take place internally at the end of their media rights or it will take place with ESPN dismantling the conference, or the schools will agree to be removed from the conference collectively. We are all waiting for the expansion opportunities for the Big 12 to bring schools from the ACC into our conference.
For what purpose?
The BIG12 has already dismantled.
@@tarheel7406ur delusional if u think that. The Big 12 is literally thriving
@@aiden395 The BIG12 has "literally" been relegated down to a new Tier 2 after losing its top 6 (net) and now consisting of ~33% G5 equivalents. I can see it thriving at the Tier 2 level, but it will be increasingly unstable if it continues to expand.
@@tarheel7406 The pac 12 and ACC are collapsing. The big 12 will survive. Thats what matters. Survival lol.
@@aiden395 LOL... No self-awareness. The BIG12 has already collapsed and rebuilt. Compare the original BIG12 with the new. The ACC should similarly survive.
I just check. The cheapest flight round trip from Morgantown to Corvallis is around $560. Morgantown to Portland $460
Once the renovation of the runway at local airport on the Mileground in Morgantown is finally completed for incoming and outgoing flights, a charter flight may be more affordable.
you would just fly into Pittsburgh then drive the 75 miles to Morgantown. It would be a lot cheaper than flying into a small regional airport. The entire WVU is hard to get to is way overblown and inaccurate.
Nobody flies to Corvallis, they fly to Portland or Eugene
When WVU was winning games that mattered with White and Slaton etc, they were respected. We overachieved some and it was magical. They said OU would beat us in fiesta bowl. Why? Because we lost to USF and Pitt. They’d aid UGA would beat us in sugar bowl. Why? Because we had a freshman quarterback and played in a terrible conference going up against the SEC champs. These aren’t slights….its just good common sense. WVU winning those games is magical….partly because it was so unexpected.
so true... and that time has passed.
WVU alum here.. Paul’s point about overall image/brand of our program is very accurate. What Deion at Colorado proved is that you can rebrand an image is a very short amount of time. We need something that sets us apart in recruiting.. Oregon did it with their uniform and facilities and they built on it.. I’m sorry but a coal mining helmet for an interception at the sideline is not going to impress a 4,5 star talent .. Building a modern identity and brand has to be on top of the list for our program.
amen!!!!
Colorado players are all transferring and Deon will ultimately be fired after this season . No just because of his record but because of his loose lips .
@@MattDixx nope... Deion understands its about getting peoples eyes on the program but he must win games and it's a little tougher on the gridiron.
College Football needs 4 power conferences to maximize economic results. West Virginia needs to be in a rebuilt ACC with Cincinnati, Syracuse & Pittsburgh. Compete for one of the automatic CFP every year. College Football is not the NFL. Regional Interest and creating more interesting storylines is important. See NCAA basketball tournament.
Yep
Cincy, Syracuse, Pitt all losers and bring nothing to the party. Try NCState, Louisville and Miami and let CINCY, PITT, Cuse join the AAC.
The ACC will go the way of the Pac12 when Clemson and FSU leave.
And Clemson and FSU aren't coming to the Big12. The whole point is to get into the SEC or B1G.
@@77thNYSV
a) Why would the ACC completely scatter?
b) FSU is now ~100% to BIG12, CLEMSON is ~10%.
@@77thNYSV no they won’t they will fill in with G5 schools . The ACC is not going anywhere. Want some good life advice, don’t believe the hype bro.😎
Great job Paul! Probably your best performance. Well prepared and on point! Great premier!
Thanks!
Great show. Paul is excellent.
Miami, Louisville, Va Tech, and NC St.
Pitt for a consolation team
For what purpose for any of the parties?
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@@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r I see you have no answer either. You will have to do better.
@@tarheel7406
Love those country roads
Hope WV does well.
Paul is the man! Smart for you all to get him part of the Locked On group.
Paul got a new job and now will forget about me and the WVU fans 😢. Bro I didn’t know you got a job on here . I subscribed and started liking the content
It's still the same man!
Hell yeah! About time
Avid lifelong WVU fan here…..a big problem is our fans. The super unrealistic view and expectations. Most of our fans are allergic to logic and see any attempt to point this out as “hate”. Last year we won nine games, but got blown off the field by both good teams we played. And also had the luxury of not playing Kansas or Texas. There were obvious improvements, but today we are being disrespected when we haven’t proven ANYTHING is typical WVU fan nonsense. I’ll be happy with 8 wins this year! Because I’m a realistic fan that doesn’t feel slighted and undervalued.
Good points but 8 wins is a little much. 6-6 likely and a new contract for Brown. Always next year but next year never comes. However, most WVU fans luv talking themselves into unrealistic expectations for Brown and WVU football.
oklahoma state went to the big 12 championship and we shouldve won that game. we were in the game for 3 quarters against penn st with an offense that hadn't found itself yet. put the offense from any game past the texas tech game against penn st we may even win and the environment was insane (I was there). we did get cooked by oklahoma tho.
You knew what you were getting into accepting the invite to the Big 12. You knew you were going to travel. I do feel WVU needs a travel partner.
Copy and paste on every show…
wow, very respectful info... thank you,
Getting WV some great rivals should be the #1 priority for Brett Y. Obviously, if we can get FSU and Clemson, we should do it. But Virginia Tech, Pitt, Syracuse and Louisville would be great adds as well. Even Georgia Tech would be an awesome addition.
FSU+UCONN
A lot of rivalries will be in the new Big 12.
If the ACC does fold Georgia Tech would be a tremendous selection for the Big 12.
Clemson and NC St would also be likely candidates for the Big 12.
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That's a big "if". Why would the ACC fold with CLEMSON, NCST, GATECH still members?
Mountaineer Paul Rules !!! Good stuff
As a diehard lifelong fan, I know WV Sports real well. We do good as underdogs when our backs are to the wall, BUT when we’re Supposed to Win the Big Games, we almost Always come up short.
(We’re the Buffalo Bills of College Football and it’s historically been real Painful being a Mountaineer.)
Neal Brown is a unique coach for us, so maybe, just maybe, with him WVU wins when we’re supposed to. We’ll see.
We solve this whole debate by WV going to the ACC. We should have never went into the Big 12. If WV would have been smart we would have had Louisville's spot in the ACC where we were better fit for as a football program. Don't get me started on Brown!!!!
maybe
a) L'VILLE could get the votes while WVU would not.
b) After the SEC/B1G finish expanding, the P5 remainders should amicably realign into smaller regionals.
Brown has recruited better than any previous WVU coach. Brown has put more WV natives in gold and blue and developed them and put them on the field more than any other WVU coach. Fraizer, Clement, Martin, Fox, Nester, Milum, just to name a few.
He came in had to deal with Covid, drastic portal changes, adjusting to NIL along with our own athletic director stating that the university was behind the curve with the country roads trust, and also had to overcome the train wreck of a culture Holgerson left in the wake of his departure. People that hate on Brown don't look at the full picture, he has us going in the right direction. Good things come with time, not everything is instant gratification.
@@tarheel7406a lot of people don’t like Wvu state of wv broke away became a not slave state. Southerners give no love. Although in 93 season Tennessee fans were great. We Are hillbillies but ass kicking and intelligent bible carrying fans not all
@@garybennett8336 WVU is a BIG12 type school with an inconvenient address.
Let’s Goooooooo! 👊🏼
Just bring the old Big East back 😅
Yes. Been saying for over 2 years that the eventual P5 remainders should amicably realign into smaller regionals, including an 8-10 member new BIGEAST.
The Big12 does not dictate the timeline of when (or even if) programs will leave the ACC.
All the Big 12 can do is make the choice obvious and easy by working hard to increase the brands value and working with network partners to agree to give future members from the ACC a full share if the time comes.
Let's Go Paul!
Means nothing until we are able to be AAU affiliated !!!!
Do we want them? Of course. But I feel like “pleading” is a bold face lie
I think using the word "pleading" is just a hook to get people to watch the video. It worked! Here we are! 🙂
@@adammartin2685 I have a feeling they are obviously all in favor. But the word salad for me was a bit over dramatic
I get it, we're all fans of our own team. However, this guy isn't just drinking the kool-aid, he's waterboarding himself with it. Interested to hear his excuses IF West Virginia goes 6-6.
We won 9 games last year and return almost everyone. It's not that hard. PRE season everyone thought Texas Tech and TCU was a murderers row last year of a schedule and they ended up sucking. So I don't wanna hear schedule. You know where to find me. Click this bubble if you wanna hold me accountable!
Does realignment have to every single topic
Unless BIG12 adds ACC schools, WVU is a better fit for the SEC
SEC won’t take them. Not in a million millenniums.
no they don't ...
@@GDoggy-em2xc Yes and NO. If WVU would start winning consistently and beat some good OFC schools like PSU SEC might consider. However, WVU ADM does not want the SEC or any such conference that gives WVU to much exposure. The Fans just the opposite but they have little if any say in WVU leadership on or off the field. WVU likes the 6-6 , 7-5 seasons and a minor bowl. Then they always have next year that never comes.
@@pitchshot2868 Except for TX/OK (I'm assuming), the SEC again tested the waters with UNC/UVA before expanding with AR/USCAR and again with TXAM/MO. As things stand, what was considered never a real possibility is now within reach for the SEC. As a result, the SEC isn't expanding in a way that may harm its chances of securing those two priority targets, and that includes adding WVU.
Yeah, I'm sorry to all my Big 12 friends, but I feel like WVU should be rewarded for sticking this out for so long. Throw us a bone lol
It's funny how ACC fans are asking we try poach teams from the Big 12! ACC is working on private equity money to boost per school revenue and they will win that battle vs. Big12 efforts especially as ACC alums run alot of those operations.
It makes sense if the ACC is after WVU,Cincinnati, UCF,USF and UCONN ( whenever FSU,Clemson and Miami leave). Cause basically you'll have the Big East Schools and a number of ACC schools still. And all will be still regional.
The Big 12 regionally should get SMU,Cal,Standford, WSU and Oregon State.
@@charleswebsterjr.6350 To where would CLEMSON, FSU & MIAMI go?
WVU has been saying it's underrated ever since joining the Big 12. They had a few good years with Holgorsen as head coach and a "good" year last year because of a mostly easy 2023 schedule. One thing we've noticed is that WVU fans are like the only B12 school whose fans have no earthly idea what talent is on the other teams. Even if WVU has improved, UCF (as one example) has gotten way more new talent compared to WVU. WVU keeps adding other programs' cast-offs and a lot of G5 talent. We see WVU in the bottom 1/4 of the B12.
Fatorma Mulba- Penn State, Jaden Bray- Oklahoma State- Jaheem Joeseph- Northwestern, Garnett Hollis, Northwestern, Justin Robinson- Mississippi State, T.J Jackson- Troy all conference Reid Carrico- OHIO STATE. So what were u saying again? Bc these are all p4 transfers and one VERY GOOD g5 player.
How about shutting your mout and learn not to be so casual. Only thing i remember about UCF is kicking their ass last year.
@@hoopsfromthehills October 28, 2023 on the road in Orlando, FL, it was WVU 41 UCF 28. HC Malzahn said his Knights could not stop the WVU running game and GG was outstanding. Let's not forget the 4 TO's and 2 INT 's by Beanie Bishop working hard to earn a spot on the Steelers.
I've been saying it for years West Virginia belongs in the ACC
If that were true, they would already be a member.
After the way Memphis looked against your iowa st team seems like somebody would take notice!
Memphis would be a good addition, especially with their partnership with FedEx. That said though, when there is a possibility that you could get ACC schools if the ACC does indeed implode or if 4-6 teams decided to leave, adding schools that are already from a Power Conference helps the look of the conference over elevating another G5.
@@Goeers206 Memphis is the CINCY of the South. Wanna be but never happen.
Cincinnati is in the eastern time zone...
Pitt and Louisville would be great for the big 12
It was reported that both PITT and L'VILLE were among the strongest supporters of the ACC adding CAL+2. What does that tell you?
@@tarheel7406 not sure what you're insinuating here. other than, they are supporters of the ACC.
@@TruckerCardsfan It means that even PITT and L'VILLE consider the BIG12 as the option of last resort.
I don't understand why the ACC doesn't prepare for FSU and Clemson to leave, and Add WVU, Cincinnati, UCF,USF And UCONN. Or better basically trade cause regionally SMU,Stanford,Cal needs to be in the Big 12 along with Oregon State and Washington state.
Huh? The ACC preemptively backfilled with CAL+2 and accepted a lower CFP payout.
BTW... To where are CLEMSON and FSU going if alone?
UNC UVA PITT and Miami currently negotiating w the BIG. Deal is imminent and will be announced once FSU and Clemson announce their move next offseason the SEC
Delusional
Washington State and Oregon State to the ACC??
I don't think the ACC wants the beavers and cougars.
Why?
More people live in the east the BIG XII that way we need more teams from the east NC VA. PA. Florida and KY. have more people than OR.WA.
Dallas love field to Corvallis $374 Dallas Love Field to Morgantown $475
Morgantown needs Huntington's attitude of gratitude and welcome in teams win or lose. Yeah,we're "lil brother," but teams are more receptive to Marshall because we dont go crazy or assault visitors.
What are you talking about? Why are you on a Big12 board talking crap about WVU?
WVU fans haven't behaved that way in YEARS. So ...
@mountaineerpaultalksfootba4782 yet a law had to be passed to make couch burning a felony. Fan attitude hasn't changed at all when opponents come in, and I bet dollars to donuts security is still pretty tight. That LSU game in Morgantown changed things there. Facts isn't trash talk, but it obviously struck a deep nerve.
Not sure why WVU needs to "plead" for the BIG XII to add ACC schools (Pitt, Louisville, Miami, et al) when it seems very clear that the ACC schools are squarely the focus of Yormark and the BIG XII? I know there is lingering talk about the PAC 2, but they are highly unfavored by a majority of the BIG XII schools and fanbases. The ACC schools will be a much greater value to the BIG XII than the PAC 2. Let's focus on getting FSU, Clemson, Miami, Pitt, Louisville, NC State, Va Tech, BEFORE even glancing westward.
Remember when lots of BIG-12 fans thought, for a bit there, that you might well get Oregon and Washington? Not getting FSU and Clemson -- not going to happen.
They can join the AAC or Conference USA
Because none of the western schools have to travel to WV..........SMH
HEEEEEEEEHEEEE.... yeah!!!
Not the same. WVU has to travel road games 6 times a year near OVER 1k miles or close. Not the same when othet teams have to do it ONCE.
@@LockedOnWestVirginia
The Big12 plays 9 conference games so it’s only 4 or 5 times a year. The 3 non-con games don’t have to involve a lot of travel. 🤷🏽♂️
We'll trade UL for WV
who's we? and why downgrade?
Plead all you want, only FSU and Clemson have the balls to go to court and challenge the ACC GOR in court, the other bastards (none including UNC) keep playing both sides, voting to sue FSU and Clemson all the while making plans to do the same on leaving the ACC when the lawsuits settle. They could have joined and made it a group suit but opted to stay behind and leave the dirty work to the two. FSU and Clemson should say F em and good riddance, file your own damned lawsuits and leave them behind.
Still confused? One of FSU's mistakes is going overly hostile in litigation. CLEMSON just filed for a dec judgment.
Both the SEC and B1G will wait for UNC decision, and UNC can pursue more amicable solutions.
Simple, if you want Big East play back then West Virginia should join ACC
Nobody told you to go join the pac 12 when you fans yapped about the 4 corners all last year. It only goes one way tho huh
WVU has no pending ACC invite.
Players are getting paid....this is the new college football look....we all have to deal with it. East to West Coast fight is 4-4 1/2 hrs .
Louisville, Pitt, NCST & VT? (yes, FSU, Clemson would be nice but FSU is another Texas)
Why would Tier 2 ACC flight risks move to the BIG12?
@@tarheel7406 Why did Utah move to to BIG12?
@@aCycloneSteve The PAC was delusional and incompetent, so it didn't preemptively backfill and rejected reasonable Tier 2 media deals. The ACC wasn't interested in UTAH (some claimed a partial share was offered), so the BIG12 was the option of last resort.
Why don't you know this already?
Here's the thing I have no doubt that West Virginia and Big Ten discussions has mentioned the desire to bring in some ACC schools in certain names may have been dropped. I don't think that that would surprise anybody this is actually not news I wish you guys would stop pushing things that we have known since we first heard Clemson and Florida State filing suit. We're not being impatient what we are is getting irritated by the thought that the other two Pacific schools might come in Poughkeepsie prevent more Eastern schools. Now West Virginia was burned by a few of those programs in the ACC and they would be within their rights to do nothing to help the likes of those schools but West Virginia remembers its roots and its football was best when it played those schools. Like it or hate it that's the truth. I'm not saying that they're not up to Big 12 standard that's not what I'm saying. But these constant trolling about expansion come on find different content Drake it's getting old
I mean when it comes down to it, UL wants to play W. Virginia. Actually WVU & Cincy ought to be absorbed into the ACC for a really good fit. But they have to get better, WVU is average at best & Cincy didn't win a post season game in any sport last year.
At best the ACC is mediocre
ACC didn't want WVU when it was snatching up terrible football brands cause we're too stoopid for Wake, Duke, UVA, and UNC. Also top 20 in wins in both football and basketball, not average at best. Now WVU does not need the ACC. The ACC needs WVU.
@@schweber10 I would agree but we advocated for WVU & UC but ya'll just agreed to enter the Big12. As far as being too stupid idk, thats the joke but no one cares about academics, and NO the ACC doesn't need you, it just makes sense to have you. This is all going to implode anyways.
@@bobfox2733 I guess we'll find out by the end of the season.
WVU does not NEED the ACC is any way, shape or form and the feelings are mutual. When R U going to understand that.
What is wrong with West Virginia... The ACC didn't want them ... why hand out a rope to save them....
lol at this guy had WVU 1-11 . WVU has never went 1-11 ever
Wv a top 25 program lol no the rankings dont agree
How so? They are getting votes. Time will tell bud
PPF College ranks WVU #25 along with 5 other Big XII schools in its Top 25 (AZ, UT, KSU, OkST and KU. PSU is ranked #10. 2024 Coaches Poll for preseason ranked WVU #33 but they finished #25 in the final 2023 Coaches Poll.
@fwilliamcony28 I'm talking all time top 25
Y'all WV fans need to slow down if this happens y'all have to be patient and see how things work out stop be so annoying
If WVU wants to play ACC schools so bad, why don't they join the ACC
No invite
Okay Ken, then whoever the teams you've played your ENTIRE LIFE go away via Conference Realignment and you get tossed in a conference 1k miles away. Im sure you aren't gonna be happy about that.
@@tarheel7406 No invite, exit penalty, questions on long-term ACC stability, even more distant travel than in the XII...
@@aCycloneSteve Why would the future ACC be any less stable than the already Tier 2 BIG12? The BIG12 is far more scattered than the new [ACC].
Exit penalty? While I would agree, this channel posts daily vids about the B1G adding ACC schools with nary a mention of exit fees. You also seem a bit selective of the question.
@@tarheel7406 The XII has a fairly large exit fee. The ACC has a huge exit fee. Nothing is happening un the ACC until they deal with that.
The ACC is unstable largely because they have teams that want to leave & other team that have signed up for long term second class status. With "perhaps" the exception of the Utah coach.
PS: "The BIG12 is far more scattered than the new BIG12." What?
Yurcich being out is a PLUS for PSU. LOL! He got fired and the offense immediately improved. WVU is about to see an offensive scheme this year it didn't see last year. And BTW, they're facing an OC who knows their defense coming from the Big 12. There are losses on the O-line, but the problem is who does WVU have on their D-Line to take advantage of it? Especially if there will be a ton of presnap motion?
Fleming is not the #2 WR at PSU. It will go Tre, Clifford, Fleming, Evans, Gallagher, Denmark. Unlike last year, you will see Singleton and Kaytron catch the ball a ton. Not sure how he left out one of the top running back duos from the conversation. And PSU is 3 deep at TE. PSU rarely runs a single TE set.
And Tom Allen is a former elite SEC coordinator who is squarely focusing on defense instead of head coaching. PSU will drop from a top 3 defense to a top 10 since much isn't changing on that side of the ball. Who will PSU use to block Chop Robinson on one side and DDS on the other? And since Allen will play a 3 safety look, there's only so much WVU can do once the QB escapes the pocket.
PSU never uses the full playbook in out of conference games. It'll be closer than last year, but no, WVU doesn't have the depth or talent to win a 4 quarter game against PSU.
What u talking about? We playrd Kansas several times.
WVU fan here and your right... but I will still hold out for a miracle win... even though NIL money has changed the game...
@@LockedOnWestVirginia That's the point. Saying that PSU is at a disadvantage because of a new OC doesn't account for the fact the new OC is familiar with WVU. He's basically taking what worked and executing it with better talent. And he can also expand what worked since he has better talent.
@@magicray5088 I'll cheer for WVU in every game outside of PSU like I did last year. I think you have to do more with less and you're screwed being that far east in the Big 12. PSU was on an island in the B1G for years.
I think if the question is, "How can WVU win?" then those are fair points about lacking chemistry on the O-Line and change in coordinators. But with him and guys like Kurtz feeling confident that WVU is 22 points better this year, that's where I'm pushing back. PSU is not a 3 TD favorite in this game. But I think 10.5 points is fair if it's played all 4 quarters.
@@heartbreak25 But im being put in a situation here on someone elses show and being asked "why will they win". You get me? Its not like i petitioned for the question its Drakes show and we didn't even go over the questions. It was all from the hip lol
Fake news!! The ACC didn’t want WVU at one point and I’m sure they’re regretting it now 😂
Why any regret?
😂😂😂😂 no
nc state over louisville . . . you can't be serious.
t-shirt fan.
Okay hot shot, you get on a show and get asked a question you haven't had time to prep for, and see how you do. I put 60 hours a week into what i do as a creator, what ab you?
@@LockedOnWestVirginia "hot shot?" lol ok. i guess we're going there.
i've put in 39 years as a season ticket holder. how about you? also, any casual fan scrolling a message board would have ran across this topic at least once, so "no time to prep?" if you say so.
if you know ANYTHING about WVU football, uofl would have been either second or third behind pitt and probably vt. do you not remember the 2005 game? 2006? we have history with louisville, and not just in football. and they're a border state. what history do we have with nc state, other than clobbering them at home in neal's first year?
but whatever. good luck with your show.
@jD304304 I remember those games in 2005 (3 OT WVU win) and 2006 (Top 5 Thursday night game won by Louisville). I think between UofL and WVU only 1 or 2 of those games were blowouts as UofL had a bad coaching hire in 2007 and down years between 2007-2010. Most were close. I think that in 2007, it was a close, high scoring game that WVU won in the final minute. Louisville won the last one in Morgantown in another close, high scoring game in 2012, I think. I seem to recall a low scoring close game as well. Something like 17-10.
@@jD304304 This is MY OPINION. It would be DUMB DUMB DUMB to think only of wvu from a conference perspective in realignment and that is what I was trying to do. It's not all about us. And so I chose one of the best ran Athletic Departments out there. Sue me
@@LockedOnWestVirginia NCst athletic program is better than Louisville's? thats a bad take.