Wow, these are perfect. Just setting up automation and this will let me detect presence reliably at a price where I can have it in every room without worries. And no batteries, wiring power is a pain but at least you can just set them up and forget them and not run around changing batteries all the time.
I've got a couple on order 100% *because* they work as simple detectors, pir as you say can be a little hit and miss and I've been having good luck with ls2410 based prototypes for the livingroom (though now esphome can use multiple sensors there's another prototype to try :D) so it may fit the bill for me, as you say who actually turns on different lights based on who's in the room ? :D
These sensors operate at 5.8 GHz. I have played with some similar sensors that operate at 3.2 GHz. They would detect through walls and to the rear. I couldn't use them because of the ceiling fans in my house setting them off. Does this sensor also detect through a wall?
A lot of mm wave sensors are a long way above 5.8GHz. Most of them are 25GHz and above, some even in the 60GHz range Aqara use a 60GHz sensor in the FP1, it is a XENSIV™ BGT60TR13C. I believe a similar sensor is in the FP2, but I haven't confirmed what it is. I don't know what Sonoff use, but I very much doubt it is 5.8GHz as this would be a more expensive sensor as they are not readily used in mm wave sensors.
Please, how much of an area can it cover? square metres please, and lets assume it is ceiling mounted in the centre of a room. I want to know if this will work in an open plan condo. would an 18x9m2 room require 2 of these? Also not sure of beam angle. If is it about 120 degrees that should be fine. But how accurate is it in your findings? Thank you and any feedback on this would be super appreciated.😀
Great review and nice it is zigbee. You are really correct about the Aqara fp2 - after initial excitement I found I had no use case for room positioning, and would much rather it hadn't used wifi. I thought I might start using Home Assistant for its new voice stuff (I much prefer working in Node-Red). Do you actually use HA at all?
@@notenoughtechwhat do you mean the hard way? I thought most ppl still found home assistant to be too technical to be able to use ... You just use all the native /proprietary software?
Will Sonoff release any device to detect the rain? To start with, just a digital detection (yes/No) is fine. Options for that device in app must be able to over ride output of a smart rekay. So Automatic drip irigation valve switch-on will be skipped. Any idea when weather based scenes be implemented? Paid version of Shelly has. I'm the VIP user of ewelink. But ewelink does not yet have this option.
Hello. What are your opinions when using the SNZB-06P presence sensor? I have a sensor (software v1.0.5) connected to nspanel pro (v2. 2.0). I noticed two problems. The sensor reports movement on the panel only after approximately 3 seconds. The sensor turns on the light even on a cloudy day. At a light intensity of approximately 50 lux, the sensor detects darkness. I changed the sensitivity value, but the problem still persists.
I don't think this is the case. Guys are making ecosystems that support hotels and businesses. A simple home use of 2-3 of these isnt going to cause problems even if they sell loads.
I do think it may not be problematic. But Shelly gives only last 5 logs with their free app and 100 logs even with paid version. One of the reason for me to be with Sonoff is unlimited logs even with free version of app.
Nice video as always....why use zigbee and need a charging cable Sonoff?For that reason only i will pass...Perfect sensor for bathrooms so you dont need to do the pottydance when the PIR sensor turn off the light....but come on ,who has an available socket for the SNZB-06P in the bathroom?
What about walls, fridge, doors? I mean my current 5Ghz sensors can detect fridge opening through brick walls, other problem is that all of them are radial - it is crazy to set it up for long rectangle corridor.
@@chrisrosenkreuz23false. Battery powered zigbee devices don't act as repeaters and there are even some mains powered devices that don't. This Sonoff Zigbee Presence Sensor does work as a repeater.
I got this one from a friend and am a total newbie. Using Ewelink app and alexa app. where is that menu at 0:49 hidden ? ua-cam.com/video/m66Mv_azIDk/v-deo.html I cant find that setting anywhere but i would LOVE to split my room into different zones, so each desk is only light up when it's in use (2 desks, small room, me and gf)
You know there is a written version of this linked right? So you can conveniently jump to the paragraph you care about most. Also video chapters. Bottom line is... There are other channels covering this if you don't like "babbling". 🤷
I have one of these but tge software does not have the options you show for presence, no presnece or any light levels. It just shows motion or no motion. What version of software did you use?
Home Assistant definitely shows presence and motion with these. I set one up a couple of days ago and it worked straight away with HA with a Sonoff Zigbee USB dongle.
If this device can detect me breeding, then it may get bored. 😂
It can certainly detect vigorous activities
they updated the firmware and now you can set up the timeout time a lot lower than bedfore. :D
That's awesome. I'll check this and make corrections to article and video
What is the new time? Any experience with how well it does at this lower time?
Wow, these are perfect. Just setting up automation and this will let me detect presence reliably at a price where I can have it in every room without worries. And no batteries, wiring power is a pain but at least you can just set them up and forget them and not run around changing batteries all the time.
Thanks for the video!
Will order it. But never order a product where they tell you they'll deliver updates for certain functions!
I'm happy you found it helpful.
Thank for the video - nice work - saves me so much time seeing your work -
Still in that silly cross road between Matter vs ZigBee. Wonder why no Matter support???
I'm yet to talk about matter. I have a script about why matter isn't that exciting I'll post it at some point
Stick with zigbee! They keep on changing so we keep on wasting money too LOL
I've got a couple on order 100% *because* they work as simple detectors, pir as you say can be a little hit and miss and I've been having good luck with ls2410 based prototypes for the livingroom (though now esphome can use multiple sensors there's another prototype to try :D) so it may fit the bill for me, as you say who actually turns on different lights based on who's in the room ? :D
As cool fp2 is
It would drive me crazy if you have kids 😂🤣😂
@@notenoughtech Thankfully kids are 100% not on the roadmap :D
does it work throgh a window? if i have it inside pointing out?
These sensors operate at 5.8 GHz. I have played with some similar sensors that operate at 3.2 GHz. They would detect through walls and to the rear. I couldn't use them because of the ceiling fans in my house setting them off. Does this sensor also detect through a wall?
Not to my knowledge. But detection cone can detect signal bounced from the wall
A lot of mm wave sensors are a long way above 5.8GHz. Most of them are 25GHz and above, some even in the 60GHz range
Aqara use a 60GHz sensor in the FP1, it is a XENSIV™ BGT60TR13C. I believe a similar sensor is in the FP2, but I haven't confirmed what it is.
I don't know what Sonoff use, but I very much doubt it is 5.8GHz as this would be a more expensive sensor as they are not readily used in mm wave sensors.
Dpes the sensor detect through a wall into another room or hallway?
Unlikely.
Please, how much of an area can it cover? square metres please, and lets assume it is ceiling mounted in the centre of a room. I want to know if this will work in an open plan condo. would an 18x9m2 room require 2 of these? Also not sure of beam angle. If is it about 120 degrees that should be fine. But how accurate is it in your findings? Thank you and any feedback on this would be super appreciated.😀
hey, did you go ahead buying this? would really like your feedback regarding your question if you did. thanks!
Great review and nice it is zigbee. You are really correct about the Aqara fp2 - after initial excitement I found I had no use case for room positioning, and would much rather it hadn't used wifi. I thought I might start using Home Assistant for its new voice stuff (I much prefer working in Node-Red). Do you actually use HA at all?
I don't use HA I like to do my automation the hard way hahaha
@@notenoughtech so that means that you re an OpenHab user ? :))
@@notenoughtechwhat do you mean the hard way? I thought most ppl still found home assistant to be too technical to be able to use ...
You just use all the native /proprietary software?
Will Sonoff release any device to detect the rain? To start with, just a digital detection (yes/No) is fine. Options for that device in app must be able to over ride output of a smart rekay. So Automatic drip irigation valve switch-on will be skipped.
Any idea when weather based scenes be implemented? Paid version of Shelly has. I'm the VIP user of ewelink. But ewelink does not yet have this option.
There are waterleak sensors that could be used to detect rainfall if you funnel it. But Sonoff doesn't have them in their line up yet.
Have 6 on order, was waiting for something simple, this is it.
Have you tried the EWelink ZigBee 5.8G Smart human presence detector yet?
no, I don't have that one yet, sorry
When using it with Alexa, does it also provide a trigger when you leave the room?
Yes you can set how long absence was for too
Thanks
Hello. What are your opinions when using the SNZB-06P presence sensor? I have a sensor (software v1.0.5) connected to nspanel pro (v2. 2.0). I noticed two problems. The sensor reports movement on the panel only after approximately 3 seconds. The sensor turns on the light even on a cloudy day. At a light intensity of approximately 50 lux, the sensor detects darkness. I changed the sensitivity value, but the problem still persists.
I didn't like the lux implementation but the detection for me was fast for movement
Thanks Mat.
Hello, i am very interested in learning node red, were can i get the basic
This is what I made notenoughtech.com/home-automation/why-nodered-server/
Hi, What is the power consumption on a "standby mode" or on average during human presence / out.
I haven't measured it I can't imagine more than 2-3W
Hello, do you know if it can be paired with ikea dirigera and exposed to homekit?
I wouldn't bet my money on it. I'd go with a custom coordinator instead
Any solution with battery? I want one to trigger lights or a dehumidifier on my bathroom
Mm-wave sensors are power hungry. They would last days at best on a battery
Good morning. I couldn't find link to the example regarding red node in the description. Did I miss something?
See the article linked at the very bottom
@@notenoughtech😅Thanks a lot
Hi and thanks. Could you please advise what is the detection angle of this sensor ?
If I remember correctly its close to 180 degrees
@@notenoughtech how far of object distance can it detect accurately?
How is the light sensor that comes with the device? Is it usable?
It's not. Not in the current form
@6:00 Son-off may dont want to crowd their servers by triggers. Or battery saving for future devices with Battery?
I don't think this is the case. Guys are making ecosystems that support hotels and businesses. A simple home use of 2-3 of these isnt going to cause problems even if they sell loads.
I do think it may not be problematic. But Shelly gives only last 5 logs with their free app and 100 logs even with paid version. One of the reason for me to be with Sonoff is unlimited logs even with free version of app.
Nice video as always....why use zigbee and need a charging cable Sonoff?For that reason only i will pass...Perfect sensor for bathrooms so you dont need to do the pottydance when the PIR sensor turn off the light....but come on ,who has an available socket for the SNZB-06P in the bathroom?
These sensors poll at high frequency hence the need for constant power. You would run out of power on a battery in days if not hours
does this work with Samsung smarthings hub?
Yes but you need to install the driver first. There is a UA-cam video. Only offers motion detected with no other settings.
Hey Matt can you do a review on a smart bicycle helmet with some useful sensors?
Maybe one day. I don't own one my bike trips tend to be wonderfully analogue
Will this be available at Amazon
At some point maybe but it will take a long time and the markup could be significant as Sonoff presence in western markets isn't significant
What about walls, fridge, doors?
I mean my current 5Ghz sensors can detect fridge opening through brick walls, other problem is that all of them are radial - it is crazy to set it up for long rectangle corridor.
Does it act as a zigbee router (repeater)?
Every ZigBee device acts as a repeater
@@chrisrosenkreuz23false. Battery powered zigbee devices don't act as repeaters and there are even some mains powered devices that don't.
This Sonoff Zigbee Presence Sensor does work as a repeater.
Thank you for pointing that out. I was actually unsure but couldn't be arsed to check. Now both I and the OP have our answers. @@Leonvolt28
@@chrisrosenkreuz23incorrect
@@chrisrosenkreuz23 Only mains powered ones do. Otherwise battery drain would be an issue.
Super filmy pokazał byś też że tyko oryginalnego aooffa można przerobić na suple tosmato i dodać więcej funkcji do przekaźników
Wait this sensor cam detect if I'm "breeding" ..... ?😅
Easily, unless you just lay there and wait for the earthquake to do its thing
Iulink?.?.?.
???
I got this one from a friend and am a total newbie. Using Ewelink app and alexa app.
where is that menu at 0:49 hidden ? ua-cam.com/video/m66Mv_azIDk/v-deo.html
I cant find that setting anywhere but i would LOVE to split my room into different zones, so each desk is only light up when it's in use (2 desks, small room, me and gf)
This one is from iHost.
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Does this sensor react to pets? Does anyone have information
Given how sensitive it was to reads from the bounced signal I'd say yes. I don't have pets to test it tho.
@@notenoughtech thank you
Doesn't leverage so much of what the hardware is capable of...
bad review.
Bad comment
OK, review, but get a hell on with it takes ages babbling Shut up get your point
You know there is a written version of this linked right? So you can conveniently jump to the paragraph you care about most. Also video chapters. Bottom line is... There are other channels covering this if you don't like "babbling". 🤷
Morning mate? Early?
I have one of these but tge software does not have the options you show for presence, no presnece or any light levels. It just shows motion or no motion. What version of software did you use?
Home Assistant definitely shows presence and motion with these. I set one up a couple of days ago and it worked straight away with HA with a Sonoff Zigbee USB dongle.
@@dmacaulay75 the ewlink software. Turns out u less you have their zigbee Pro hub, its just a motion sensor!