If you really think about it, the west had several decades of carrier building and operating experience over the Soviets. The first Soviet carriers were the Moskva class helo carriers which started construction in 1962. By then, the USA designed and built the first nuclear powered carrier, the Enterprise, entering service in 1961.
While requiring a lot of cleanup the USS Oriskany is a treasure as a dive site. One neat feature is that the currents sometimes line-up and will carry a diver through the hangar without needing them to propel themselves. I hope another carrier gets the same honor in the future.
From what I heard on the scuttlebutt network... It took a metric fuck-load of ordnance to take her down. Apparently they wailed on her for hours throwing everything but kitchen sinks at her. They really built those old gals tough.
My grandfather is a plank owner for USS America, and served on it during its shake down cruise and its first tour in the Mediterranean. He was so sad that they sunk her instead of keeping her around. I'm glad she put up a fight till the very end!
Great Video! I served on the USS America CV-66 from 1985-1989. Great ship and all of the former America sailors were sad at first about the sinkex, but glad she was able to go down in one piece and provide so much useful info on how to make all the future navy ships even better.
When I read the title, I was expecting something else. Then I realised he was talking about the carrier. "They had us in the first half not gonna lie."
Loved the sub segment. Ship sinkings are fought to a surprising degree by the crew sealing bulkheads and working the firefighting and draining systems and shoring up minor leaks with whatever material's on hand. However, when those aren't present, sinkings through minor causes or perpetuating damage can last for a long time. At Operation Crossroads (mentioned in the video), numerous ships sustained varying degrees of damage but stayed afloat after being subjected to an air burst and an underwater nuke! Battleship USS Nevada even took sustained gunfire from the mighty USS Iowa and still refused to die, and, wrecked and irradiated, had to be sunk with a torpedo spread from destroyers. Similarly, USS Hornet, even after her crew abandoned her, remained afloat, even following sustained gun and torpedo fire from US destroyers. So much so that the Japanese actually stumbled across her and possibly even boarded her, only to find that the ship, while afloat, was too heavily damaged to make salvage efforts worthwhile, and she was again torpedoed and finally sank.
I love that Blackburn seemed to just make rickety adorably goofy planes out of spite seemingly. Especially their Great War era stuff- must have taken exceptionally brave pilots to get up in them. 😂
a few years ago I built a model of her sister ship uss kittyhawk. It sucks that she is getting scrapped because she was the last super-carrier that could be turned into a museum ship. Another great video as always!
Yeah. Unfortunately, as long as super carriers remain as useful as they've proven to be, we probably won't be getting any museum carriers due to security concerns. Once they've been deemed as obsolete as battleships, we might get to walk their halls.
The USS Hornet in Alameda, California was original built with a straight flight deck, the angle deck was retro fitted to her, and the ship is a weird mixture of WWII and early Cold War ship. There is also a example of the quarantine airstream trailer that had astronauts inside her
@fightertales i was there recently and man, the old navy base is practically gone. Only a few buildings exist anymore. Definitely glad they are developing the area but a bit of me is sad that thoes old buildings are gone
I was stationed on her in 1986-1989 she was a fast ship I was a MR2 And I was also the ships locksmith and engraver all the sign and name tags and awards I engraved them and it was a nice experience of my life and been all over the world and seen many places. To all that sail her she is to only one not scraped of the kitty hawk class. They made another America in a new class of carriers. And her number is 6.
It's kind of weird on the one hand she'd be more buoyant than a regular carrier since a lot of her equipment and armament would be stripped freeing up additional tonnage from her displacement. She'd be able to take on more water before her weight exceeds her displacement and there are a lot less volatiles on board to hasten the destruction. It would take less time to sink since there wouldn't be a damage control crew aboard. So if a fire raged it wouldn't go out and could additionally compromise the integrity of the hull but a fire alone would never sink a ship. She wouldn't have flood control either but ultimately that would be a slow way to go, damaged area would flood and then stop once all compromised areas were flooded, then more damage more flooding and maybe if it happened enough to off balance an capsize her the additional and unnatural stress would start a chain reaction of flooding and breaching. The example of the destroyer strikes is also important since small ships and freighters, oilers etc aren't expected to stand up and fight while cruiser, battleships and carrier are meant to take a hit and keep fighting (British carriers more so). It's sheer bulk also protects the 1000 or so pounds of explosives in a torpedo are going to have much less impact on the 60000 tons of a super carrier than the 8000 or so tons of a destroyer. If you then look at what it took to sink some ships, outside of lucky hits, you can get a pretty good idea of what it took. For geewiz the Prinz Eugen survived two atomic blast at less than a mile. So unless it detonated right on top even a MOAB or a nuke wouldn't sink it in one hit.
As a USN Veteran, of Twenty+ (20+) years, I DO Appreciate that you covered this topic...... Not much is known about HOW it sunk, and as a USN Vet, it is Better that way....as it is a "Need to Know" Basis. But, as an 'Operation Specialists' 1st Class, I have my ideas.....Of Which, I will NOT discuss. I especially like your "humor"...'Why The Navy Destroyed America' instead of "Why .... Destroyed the USS AMERICA CV-66"....very catchy!! One LAST Thing, 'Falcon'.......... it is a Ship not a boat...............AlThough, it Is a "boat" now ( boats are for underwater craft ).🤭😜
Thanks for the kind words! As far as the "boat" part goes; the Naval Aviators are the ones who refer to it as such- but I know that everyone else calls her a ship!
I had always heard the JFK was sister to Enterprise. Enterprise was nuclear powered, but because of cost, Congress mandated JFK was to be conventionally powered. I guess it makes sense that America was/is a sister to Enterprise as well. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.
The couple of people I knew over the years that supposedly were on The Enterprise said she was an electrical nightmare. Nothing specific, but apparently frustrating even by the standards of an older carrier. I can only assume adding more stuff not originally meant on it would complicate matters.
The first purpose built Carriar to be laid down was the HMS Hermes (in 1918), though it wasn't commissioned until 1924, and the purpose built IJN Hosho was commissioned in 1922 (laid down in 1919)
that was a good video keep up the good work honestly you are one of the best story tellers on UA-cam I love it how you save history and you keep the sun at you back to my friend happy flying
American warships are built with absolutely insane amounts of redundancy. When USS Samuel B. Roberts FFG-58 struck an Iranian mine, the mine broke the keel. Let me say that louder for those who weren't paying attention: the Samuel B. Roberts had her damn keel *broken* and she managed to limp away to safety. Phil Swift may as well have sawed her in half! The Sammy B. would be repaired by the next year and recommissioned to serve until 2015. American warships are like horror movie monsters: you may be able hurt it or injure it, but unless you *kill it* kill it, it'll probably come back with a vengance!
Honestly I think war ships should go out in two ways. To the museum to remind us of our victories, or made a reef by our own weapons to remind us that we can still be humbled if not careful.
HMS Centaur was not the first carrier to receive an angled deck. Centaur was commissioned in September, 1953 with the originally designed straight deck with angled lines painted on her deck. She was the only member of her class to be commissioned with the straight deck. In 1952 both HMS Triumph and USS Midway tested angled lines on their straight decks. In late 1952, USS Antietam was modified with the first true angled flight deck. Centaur did not receive an angled deck until 1954.
You are correct; I fucked up. The Centaur was the first British ship to be rebuilt with angled decks (not counting any straight deck repaints). I honestly missed Antietam.
Honestly thought that this was going to be a Mike Sparks-esque “Why the US Navy is secretly overthrowing and destroying America” rant. Good thing it was far from that, tad bit disappointed because I was prepared to also have a good laugh.
USS AMERICA CV-66 BABY! Proudly served on Her from 1983 - 1986 and what a glorious time of my youth. Love the video, I have an insider to an insider that told me it took six weeks of attack to finally get that Titan to sleep. Thank you so, so, so much!
Hows the artifical reef the carrier created doing today? I'd like to assume well, but considering im in a country where our reefs are constantly struggling im always a little skeptical about stuff like this.
Saw my dude dropped a new vid and had to view and comment immediately for the algorithm. Please god youtube change your AI so I can watch vids over a pleasant cup of tea some weeks later
My fathers war and carrier class was mentioned in one Falcons videos! And ahoy to ye Falcon! Always good to hear what tales you come up with! Also watching the NAFO parade video was great! I couldn’t stop laughing at Digital Vagrants jokes about how they might have sent all the T-34s from the museum to the front.
Having visited WW2 museum ship aircraft carriers it is a little shocking that aircraft carriers are just getting BIGGER. Those ships are already fucking massive.
Highly recommend the USS Yorktown, if that wasn't the one you had seen yet. Has a destroyer next to it, not to mention it's also next to the entrance to Fort Sumter of Civil War fame. Actually, even one or two other small museums next to all that. Literally down the road from Charleston, SC, which is a pretty awesome place in its own right.
Nicely done! There is so much inept writing and presenting on YT, it's refreshing to encounter excellence like this. Subscribing. Oh, and my uncle flew an A-6 Intruder from the USS Oriskany during the Vietnam War.
OK, elephant in the room time; You can sink any carrier with a nuke, a near miss will do. If you are trying to sink a carrier "war were declared", so if you have nukes, you might as well use them. Less than a nuke? well, a couple of torpedos detonated under the hull or setting the hanger deck on fire with a missle will probably send one out of the war zone for repairs. And where does it need to go for major repairs, all the way to Norfolk, VA? Can it be repaired in the Japan, Australia, or Hawaii. Anywhere near the Persian Gulf? Is there a qualified shipyard (with a huge drydock) anywhere nearby. And, if the machinery spaces a damaged, how are you going to tow it?
It literally did take four weeks to sink her. All because of how she was built. Compartmentalization. The USS America had so many compartments that were design to slow the flooding in such a way that it would give her crew the time needed to stop the flooding, restore power to necessary systems like air defense, damage control assets and equipment, navigation, and propulsion. Although it will be done in order of which systems that take top priority first and then work down the list. It basically took teams of Cleaners in Full body hazmat suits weeks to remove, ans clean the ship of any and all hazardous materials and chemicals. Then you have Navy’s Department of Intelligence go through and remove any and all secrets that were still on the ship, after they were done. Then you had EODs come onto the ship with contracted demolition company to set charges outside and inside of the carrier, that would cut holes in all of the water tight components in such a way to ensure that USS America will settle upright on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico on 13:47 an even keel.
With carrier origins, let us not forget the goofy WW1 "carriers" where a single engine, outboard motor boat, would tow a "trailer" with a single aircraft on board. the boat would gun the engine, turn into the wind, and the pilot would time the crests and falls of the waves to take off. These were used in the English channel to extend the range of aircraft that would otherwise have to take off from aerodromes in the U.K.
Old tin cans aren't that easy to put under either..USS Buchannon SINKEX 2000. 3 Hellfire missiles 3 Harpoons and laser guided 2400 pounder couldn't put her under... One Sailor was heard to say: "They don't make 'em like that anymore." ua-cam.com/video/9M2SmUT5z-I/v-deo.html
I think this is still the best use of our old carriers, i know that the history and tradition is sad to lose but the information gathered can be invaluable to protecting further lives, and id bet those heroes that gave their lives in the past, would probably not want it wasted so people can muddy the floors and disrespect their old home.
Having read the ExSum of the SinkEx, the major takeaway was that if you want to know how you(finally) will sink something that you ended up not sinking, you must change the circumstances. I challenged the parameters of the sinkex. How? Can’t say. BUT! Based on the available photos, use “open air analysis and analytics. Thus, you can see several artificialities; there is no fuel slick on the water’s surface, no armed and gassed planes, no ordinance, etc. Granted, the environmental protection crowds ensure that the vessels sacrificed in SinkEx’s have no contamination prior to being introduced into the “wild.” Therefore, no secondary explosions or compounding damage could be assessed. That said, I would suggest that an inordinate number holes would have to be introduced into the frames to even remotely put enough water in the boat to even put the deck partially awash, especially if there was active damage control closing off compromised components. Until you have been on an aircraft carrier, it’s unlikely you could ever have an appreciation for just how much mass they possess. Some day the full story will be able to be told, and a fine tale it will be!
I’m pretty sure they did it to demonstrate just how powerful American engineering is. They bombarded the Carrier with all kinds of munition to show that the carriers US built is superior for a reason and they finally sank it by setting charges on important component of the carrier. It’s cruel but it acts as a message to the world
@@cpte3729 ??? I was referring to the common trope of libertarians wishing we got less involved in world affairs and only focused on ourselves. In no way did I mention jews. A bit weird how your first though was when you heard "globalism" was "jews". Also, in no way did I state an opinion, only mentioned my thought process from this title
10:55 The uss Oriskany to sink her they had to cut massive holes though the ship and place explosives at the bottom of the ship on sea connection pipes she’s still an aircraft carrier and would still be hard to sink conventually unless you just had a nuclear bomb laying around
Don't let the name get to you. USS America served her country proudly and well. She did everything her crew asked of her and she brought them all home again. A ship can be replaced or rebuilt. People can't... USS America. CVA-66 WILL be remembered, as she has been remembered. So long as WE honor her... She will always remain with us.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography which 3? well I like the plot, and Tom Clancy has always had good plots up until The Bear and The Dragon. But really, good film, most of the scenes are good imo. The nuke's CGI can be improved tho, but its 2000s so...
great job sidekick
Anytime, CHAMP
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I know how to sink a carrier. You aim for the big red circle at the front.
Dick Best knew what he was doing
(In a terribly cheesy but heroic New York accent)
“This is for Pearl.”
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography "keep an eye on owah altitood Murrayyyyy"
Never forget the Admiral Kuznetsov approach. If we sink ourselves before the American's can sink us, it's still counts as a victory.
One sinks the AK by flooding the dry dock.
@@thesuit4820 Haha there's no way the American's can reach our dry docks, it's the perfect plan
Kuznetzov to Putin: EXISTENCE IS PAIN!!! WHY WON'T YOU LET ME DIE!?!
Modern problems require Soviet Era solutions.
If you really think about it, the west had several decades of carrier building and operating experience over the Soviets. The first Soviet carriers were the Moskva class helo carriers which started construction in 1962. By then, the USA designed and built the first nuclear powered carrier, the Enterprise, entering service in 1961.
“No dumbass that’s classified.”
Little references like that just make my day.
While requiring a lot of cleanup the USS Oriskany is a treasure as a dive site. One neat feature is that the currents sometimes line-up and will carry a diver through the hangar without needing them to propel themselves. I hope another carrier gets the same honor in the future.
And it's wild how slow she went down, even though they did everything possible to compromise her ability to stay afloat.
That's the US navy ships for you right there. Just take a look at the American ships in the Pacific theatre in ww2.
From what I heard on the scuttlebutt network... It took a metric fuck-load of ordnance to take her down. Apparently they wailed on her for hours throwing everything but kitchen sinks at her. They really built those old gals tough.
My grandfather is a plank owner for USS America, and served on it during its shake down cruise and its first tour in the Mediterranean. He was so sad that they sunk her instead of keeping her around. I'm glad she put up a fight till the very end!
My grandfather was on USS America for her first shake down
Great Video! I served on the USS America CV-66 from 1985-1989. Great ship and all of the former America sailors were sad at first about the sinkex, but glad she was able to go down in one piece and provide so much useful info on how to make all the future navy ships even better.
Thanks for doing what you did and I'm glad you liked the video!
the art on this channel is top tier
Agreed
Btw first reply lol
Deserves more subs
When I read the title, I was expecting something else. Then I realised he was talking about the carrier.
"They had us in the first half not gonna lie."
Loved the sub segment.
Ship sinkings are fought to a surprising degree by the crew sealing bulkheads and working the firefighting and draining systems and shoring up minor leaks with whatever material's on hand. However, when those aren't present, sinkings through minor causes or perpetuating damage can last for a long time.
At Operation Crossroads (mentioned in the video), numerous ships sustained varying degrees of damage but stayed afloat after being subjected to an air burst and an underwater nuke! Battleship USS Nevada even took sustained gunfire from the mighty USS Iowa and still refused to die, and, wrecked and irradiated, had to be sunk with a torpedo spread from destroyers.
Similarly, USS Hornet, even after her crew abandoned her, remained afloat, even following sustained gun and torpedo fire from US destroyers. So much so that the Japanese actually stumbled across her and possibly even boarded her, only to find that the ship, while afloat, was too heavily damaged to make salvage efforts worthwhile, and she was again torpedoed and finally sank.
1:18 BLACKBURN BLACKBURN CAMEO LOL
the funniest named (and funniest looking) Royal Navy aircraft by far 😂
I love it tbh
I love that Blackburn seemed to just make rickety adorably goofy planes out of spite seemingly. Especially their Great War era stuff- must have taken exceptionally brave pilots to get up in them. 😂
Watching your videos, even the ones about destroying a super carrier, get me in such a patriotic mood. Keep it up Falcon!
Thanks man, it means a lot
8:36
“We have found the Nuclear Wessels and Admiral, It is the Enterprise!”
Oh god no, the Kaiser is back. Not again ):
"I understand that reference"
I think the channel could use more not necessarily "plane" videos and this one is a great addition.
Keep up the good work and as always, love the art!
I've got a variety of content planned that should scratch your itch! Thanks for coming!
a few years ago I built a model of her sister ship uss kittyhawk. It sucks that she is getting scrapped because she was the last super-carrier that could be turned into a museum ship. Another great video as always!
Yeah. Unfortunately, as long as super carriers remain as useful as they've proven to be, we probably won't be getting any museum carriers due to security concerns. Once they've been deemed as obsolete as battleships, we might get to walk their halls.
How would the Kitty Hawk Museum be funded? Ask the countless Organizations that attempted to turn other Decommissioned Carriers into Museums.
It's always a good day when I get to see Lazerpig's pet Twink.
I'd love to see you and the rest of NAFO getting drunk and just watching SINKEX videos. 😂
Even Rounder Table: NAFO tries to float (or sink) a boat.
Let’s just remember, within 20 years of the first flight,planes were used effectively in war and functional aircraft carriers were made.
Crazy to think about right?
Another great video Falcon. I had heard of USS America before, but the added details and context was really great.
She deserves recognition for sure
@@fightertales Absolutely.
Another banger Captain! Loved the editing ! Everything was amazing but your editing skills are insane!
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The USS Hornet in Alameda, California was original built with a straight flight deck, the angle deck was retro fitted to her, and the ship is a weird mixture of WWII and early Cold War ship. There is also a example of the quarantine airstream trailer that had astronauts inside her
I've spent a LOT of time visiting the Hornet. I love that ship
@fightertales i was there recently and man, the old navy base is practically gone. Only a few buildings exist anymore. Definitely glad they are developing the area but a bit of me is sad that thoes old buildings are gone
0:27 I recognize that cutscene anywhere, thats when they launched a Harpoon at the Kestrel in AC5! Nice touch.
Good spot~!
I was stationed on her in 1986-1989 she was a fast ship I was a MR2 And I was also the ships locksmith and engraver all the sign and name tags and awards I engraved them and it was a nice experience of my life and been all over the world and seen many places. To all that sail her she is to only one not scraped of the kitty hawk class. They made another America in a new class of carriers. And her number is 6.
commenting for the algorithm god
It's kind of weird on the one hand she'd be more buoyant than a regular carrier since a lot of her equipment and armament would be stripped freeing up additional tonnage from her displacement.
She'd be able to take on more water before her weight exceeds her displacement and there are a lot less volatiles on board to hasten the destruction.
It would take less time to sink since there wouldn't be a damage control crew aboard. So if a fire raged it wouldn't go out and could additionally compromise the integrity of the hull but a fire alone would never sink a ship. She wouldn't have flood control either but ultimately that would be a slow way to go, damaged area would flood and then stop once all compromised areas were flooded, then more damage more flooding and maybe if it happened enough to off balance an capsize her the additional and unnatural stress would start a chain reaction of flooding and breaching.
The example of the destroyer strikes is also important since small ships and freighters, oilers etc aren't expected to stand up and fight while cruiser, battleships and carrier are meant to take a hit and keep fighting (British carriers more so).
It's sheer bulk also protects the 1000 or so pounds of explosives in a torpedo are going to have much less impact on the 60000 tons of a super carrier than the 8000 or so tons of a destroyer.
If you then look at what it took to sink some ships, outside of lucky hits, you can get a pretty good idea of what it took. For geewiz the Prinz Eugen survived two atomic blast at less than a mile.
So unless it detonated right on top even a MOAB or a nuke wouldn't sink it in one hit.
As a USN Veteran, of Twenty+ (20+) years, I DO Appreciate that you covered this topic......
Not much is known about HOW it sunk, and as a USN Vet, it is Better that way....as it is a "Need to Know" Basis. But, as an 'Operation Specialists' 1st Class, I have my ideas.....Of Which, I will NOT discuss.
I especially like your "humor"...'Why The Navy Destroyed America' instead of "Why .... Destroyed the USS AMERICA CV-66"....very catchy!! One LAST Thing, 'Falcon'.......... it is a Ship not a boat...............AlThough, it Is a "boat" now ( boats are for underwater craft ).🤭😜
Thanks for the kind words!
As far as the "boat" part goes; the Naval Aviators are the ones who refer to it as such- but I know that everyone else calls her a ship!
As a former sailor, I'd rather see a ship sunk than scrapped. 2 ships I served aboard are on the bottom. One a sinkex and the other a collision.
I had always heard the JFK was sister to Enterprise. Enterprise was nuclear powered, but because of cost, Congress mandated JFK was to be conventionally powered.
I guess it makes sense that America was/is a sister to Enterprise as well. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.
Both America and JFK were slated to be Nuclear powered but were made to be Kitty Hawk classes due to budgetary reasons
The couple of people I knew over the years that supposedly were on The Enterprise said she was an electrical nightmare. Nothing specific, but apparently frustrating even by the standards of an older carrier.
I can only assume adding more stuff not originally meant on it would complicate matters.
Falcon's Fighter Tales easily my favorite military history vtuber channel
Bless
The first purpose built Carriar to be laid down was the HMS Hermes (in 1918), though it wasn't commissioned until 1924, and the purpose built IJN Hosho was commissioned in 1922 (laid down in 1919)
that was a good video keep up the good work honestly you are one of the best story tellers on UA-cam I love it how you save history and you keep the sun at you back to my friend happy flying
American warships are built with absolutely insane amounts of redundancy. When USS Samuel B. Roberts FFG-58 struck an Iranian mine, the mine broke the keel. Let me say that louder for those who weren't paying attention: the Samuel B. Roberts had her damn keel *broken* and she managed to limp away to safety. Phil Swift may as well have sawed her in half! The Sammy B. would be repaired by the next year and recommissioned to serve until 2015. American warships are like horror movie monsters: you may be able hurt it or injure it, but unless you *kill it* kill it, it'll probably come back with a vengance!
it's not clickbait if it's technically correct.
Exactly!
Honestly I think war ships should go out in two ways. To the museum to remind us of our victories, or made a reef by our own weapons to remind us that we can still be humbled if not careful.
HMS Centaur was not the first carrier to receive an angled deck. Centaur was commissioned in September, 1953 with the originally designed straight deck with angled lines painted on her deck. She was the only member of her class to be commissioned with the straight deck. In 1952 both HMS Triumph and USS Midway tested angled lines on their straight decks. In late 1952, USS Antietam was modified with the first true angled flight deck. Centaur did not receive an angled deck until 1954.
You are correct; I fucked up. The Centaur was the first British ship to be rebuilt with angled decks (not counting any straight deck repaints). I honestly missed Antietam.
Honestly thought that this was going to be a Mike Sparks-esque “Why the US Navy is secretly overthrowing and destroying America” rant. Good thing it was far from that, tad bit disappointed because I was prepared to also have a good laugh.
USS AMERICA CV-66 BABY! Proudly served on Her from 1983 - 1986 and what a glorious time of my youth. Love the video, I have an insider to an insider that told me it took six weeks of attack to finally get that Titan to sleep. Thank you so, so, so much!
Thanks for doing what you did! America was a hell of a ship!
im so glad i subscribed
For the algorithm! Fantastic stuff Falcon.
Hows the artifical reef the carrier created doing today? I'd like to assume well, but considering im in a country where our reefs are constantly struggling im always a little skeptical about stuff like this.
Might be worth looking into
Saw my dude dropped a new vid and had to view and comment immediately for the algorithm. Please god youtube change your AI so I can watch vids over a pleasant cup of tea some weeks later
My fathers war and carrier class was mentioned in one Falcons videos! And ahoy to ye Falcon! Always good to hear what tales you come up with! Also watching the NAFO parade video was great! I couldn’t stop laughing at Digital Vagrants jokes about how they might have sent all the T-34s from the museum to the front.
Having visited WW2 museum ship aircraft carriers it is a little shocking that aircraft carriers are just getting BIGGER. Those ships are already fucking massive.
Highly recommend the USS Yorktown, if that wasn't the one you had seen yet. Has a destroyer next to it, not to mention it's also next to the entrance to Fort Sumter of Civil War fame. Actually, even one or two other small museums next to all that.
Literally down the road from Charleston, SC, which is a pretty awesome place in its own right.
@@hunters8571 Sadly that's a few thousand miles away. I'd love to see it but wrong coast.
Nicely done! There is so much inept writing and presenting on YT, it's refreshing to encounter excellence like this. Subscribing.
Oh, and my uncle flew an A-6 Intruder from the USS Oriskany during the Vietnam War.
Thanks for the sub! Your uncle sounds pretty cool
@@fightertales He was indeed.
Excellent content as always, much awaited much appreciated.
Not America but it was cool that her sister USS Constellation made an appearance in the movie Lupin the 3rd Mystery of Mamo
OK, elephant in the room time; You can sink any carrier with a nuke, a near miss will do. If you are trying to sink a carrier "war were declared", so if you have nukes, you might as well use them.
Less than a nuke? well, a couple of torpedos detonated under the hull or setting the hanger deck on fire with a missle will probably send one out of the war zone for repairs. And where does it need to go for major repairs, all the way to Norfolk, VA? Can it be repaired in the Japan, Australia, or Hawaii. Anywhere near the Persian Gulf? Is there a qualified shipyard (with a huge drydock) anywhere nearby. And, if the machinery spaces a damaged, how are you going to tow it?
US Navy Mentioned
*Anchor Away Intensifies*
Got me in with that title, well played. But still great vid!
5hrs of this video being up yet this thing is so amazing!
Smoothest clickbait I think I’ve ever seen. Good content though!
It literally did take four weeks to sink her. All because of how she was built. Compartmentalization.
The USS America had so many compartments that were design to slow the flooding in such a way that it would give her crew the time needed to stop the flooding, restore power to necessary systems like air defense, damage control assets and equipment, navigation, and propulsion. Although it will be done in order of which systems that take top priority first and then work down the list.
It basically took teams of Cleaners in Full body hazmat suits weeks to remove, ans clean the ship of any and all hazardous materials and chemicals. Then you have Navy’s Department of Intelligence go through and remove any and all secrets that were still on the ship, after they were done. Then you had EODs come onto the ship with contracted demolition company to set charges outside and inside of the carrier, that would cut holes in all of the water tight components in such a way to ensure that USS America will settle upright on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico on 13:47 an even keel.
6:49 that kinda looks like mavericks emblem on the tails of the tomcats in the back
You are correct.
Wait, the phone number at 11:27 doesn't belong to Jenny anymore?
Ayyy someone got the joke
Without context, it seemed like the US Navy just said: "Fuck this country" and revolted XD
With carrier origins, let us not forget the goofy WW1 "carriers" where a single engine, outboard motor boat, would tow a "trailer" with a single aircraft on board. the boat would gun the engine, turn into the wind, and the pilot would time the crests and falls of the waves to take off. These were used in the English channel to extend the range of aircraft that would otherwise have to take off from aerodromes in the U.K.
The Kuznetsov yerns for the embrace of the abyss
Great video! This is great!
Wonderfully paced and entertaining video good sir. Seeing a new video dropped has made my grey British morning 🖤
We need more vids!
Also congrats on 20k
Thank you! More is on the way
Old tin cans aren't that easy to put under either..USS Buchannon SINKEX 2000. 3 Hellfire missiles 3 Harpoons and laser guided 2400 pounder couldn't put her under... One Sailor was heard to say: "They don't make 'em like that anymore." ua-cam.com/video/9M2SmUT5z-I/v-deo.html
You were wrong about it's powerplant. The America was powered by sheer FREEDOM
I was expecting a video about the military industrial complex but this is cool too
I didn't get the "actual photo of my dad" piece- can you explain it???
Thats my dad
Man, I just love these videos, keep up the good work
I think this is still the best use of our old carriers, i know that the history and tradition is sad to lose but the information gathered can be invaluable to protecting further lives, and id bet those heroes that gave their lives in the past, would probably not want it wasted so people can muddy the floors and disrespect their old home.
The QECs have design lineage that incorporates some ideas from non builds, like Malta class and CVA-01.
I loath clickbait titles, and generally avoid them on principle. But I like your videos, so I decided to see what it was about.
I have no idea what you're talking about
Ooh we gonna be upset I think
I was aboard The USS Trenton when we sunk the America. It was wild. It did take 4 weeks. Can't comment anymore than that.
I'm sure it was a hell of a show
pfft, this is the funniest bit of clickbait I've seen in a while.
Having read the ExSum of the SinkEx, the major takeaway was that if you want to know how you(finally) will sink something that you ended up not sinking, you must change the circumstances.
I challenged the parameters of the sinkex. How? Can’t say. BUT! Based on the available photos, use “open air analysis and analytics. Thus, you can see several artificialities; there is no fuel slick on the water’s surface, no armed and gassed planes, no ordinance, etc. Granted, the environmental protection crowds ensure that the vessels sacrificed in SinkEx’s have no contamination prior to being introduced into the “wild.” Therefore, no secondary explosions or compounding damage could be assessed. That said, I would suggest that an inordinate number holes would have to be introduced into the frames to even remotely put enough water in the boat to even put the deck partially awash, especially if there was active damage control closing off compromised components. Until you have been on an aircraft carrier, it’s unlikely you could ever have an appreciation for just how much mass they possess. Some day the full story will be able to be told, and a fine tale it will be!
"it's Classified" THat ladies and gentlemen Is called doing OPSEC the right way.
I mean I’ve seen some suicidal things in my days but damn
The Kuznetsov is really going for gold here
So we now know how to sink a Type 003 Aircraft Carrier
I would imagine so
Anyone else here remember seeing "Cap" Weinberger give this press briefing? 7:47
I have f 14 a in 1:72 nd scale diecast modell by hobby master VF 33 that served on USS America !!! Thats what brought me to this video!!!😊
You got me with that title lol
I’m pretty sure they did it to demonstrate just how powerful American engineering is. They bombarded the Carrier with all kinds of munition to show that the carriers US built is superior for a reason and they finally sank it by setting charges on important component of the carrier. It’s cruel but it acts as a message to the world
Well, think of it this way, it took 2 nuclear bombs to sink a US ww2 BB, no wonder America took 4 weeks
@1:17 Was that a Blackburn Blackburn? Now there’s an ugly plane.
I love me some of those crappy 1950s carrier jets.
You, sir, have a broad definition for a "skirmish line." lol
Until next time Falcon.
God damn that is a good title, got me thinking this was an opinion piece about anti-globalism and isolationism, then I saw the channel
"anti globalism" dude just get it over with and say you hate jews
@@cpte3729 ??? I was referring to the common trope of libertarians wishing we got less involved in world affairs and only focused on ourselves. In no way did I mention jews. A bit weird how your first though was when you heard "globalism" was "jews". Also, in no way did I state an opinion, only mentioned my thought process from this title
12:28 I thought they would just nuke it. That's the first thing I'd do, but some of these American made ships can survive that, so idk.
This Video is Excellent!
Top tier. Solid music and art.
A fellow jeep speeder. A man after my own heart
Great Video As Always!
I wish I was in the Blueside Navy but, I had to be a corpsman with ANGLICO and call in the boom boom.
ANGLICO is bad ass.
@@fightertales best logo in all of the military
“Gun powder fired catapult”
Ok, that would be the point where I nope out…
11:27
Jenny, don't change your number!
10:55 The uss Oriskany to sink her they had to cut massive holes though the ship and place explosives at the bottom of the ship on sea connection pipes she’s still an aircraft carrier and would still be hard to sink conventually unless you just had a nuclear bomb laying around
A good history lesson with a badass ost
Wasp and hornet was destroyed in the pacific campaign of ww2
Don't let the name get to you. USS America served her country proudly and well. She did everything her crew asked of her and she brought them all home again.
A ship can be replaced or rebuilt. People can't... USS America. CVA-66 WILL be remembered, as she has been remembered.
So long as WE honor her... She will always remain with us.
Great video. One question: when exactly did Gaddafi declare the line of death? I though I remembered it being 1981?
Technically it was coined in 1973 but it was only in the 80s when we full on challenged it
I love that natowave bgm 👌
The Sum of All Fears is one of my favorite films lol.
3 specific scenes from that film at absolutely fantastic. The rest is…
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography which 3? well I like the plot, and Tom Clancy has always had good plots up until The Bear and The Dragon. But really, good film, most of the scenes are good imo. The nuke's CGI can be improved tho, but its 2000s so...