6 DEVS Make a 3D GAME without COMMUNICATING!

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  • Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
  • #PassTheGameChallenge
    Replica: / discord
    PLAY "Titan Smasher": blackthornprod-games.itch.io/...
    Made By:
    Blackthornprod: www.youtube.com/@Blackthornpr...
    Lana Lux: / lana_lux
    Pontypants: / @pontypants
    Tarodev: / @tarodev
    Mike Geig: / mikegeig
    00:00 - Intro
    00:25 - Noa (Blackthornprod)
    01:28 - Replica
    02:08 - LanaLux
    03:20 - Pontypants
    06:17 - Liam (Blackthornprod)
    07:49 - Tarodev
    09:24 - Mike Geig
    11:12 - Polish & Bug Fixing
    11:25 - Gameplay
    12:51 - Outro
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    6 game developers create a 3D video game without communicating using Unity. Discover what we make, how we did it, and the many challenges, struggles and successes along the way!
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  • @Blackthornprod
    @Blackthornprod  Рік тому +1081

    3 mins 18 seconds is the highscore to beat! How fast did you SMASH the TITAN?
    Oh and which other devs should we invite to take part in this sort of challenge?

  • @likky1
    @likky1 Рік тому +8075

    I still think everyone should be able to react to the final game and contribute their thoughts about the game. It would add a little extra to the video

    • @asuryan
      @asuryan Рік тому +456

      Yeah! Let all of them play and record their reaction and opinion after.

    • @QckSGaming
      @QckSGaming Рік тому +67

      100%

    • @alanaraujo7891
      @alanaraujo7891 Рік тому +28

      Totally

    • @psyhonut
      @psyhonut Рік тому +17

      Agree

    • @JonathanChase
      @JonathanChase Рік тому +79

      Yes! The end feels rushed, it would be nice to get reactions from those involved and see what their first experience is like playing through the finished product.

  • @Gorzkyy
    @Gorzkyy Рік тому +6545

    i like how tarodev was just like, yeah lets just change the entire game into a shooter

    • @marrok6278
      @marrok6278 Рік тому +513

      He’s built different

    • @ergohash2517
      @ergohash2517 Рік тому +856

      he made it more fun though imo

    • @SpicyMelonYT
      @SpicyMelonYT Рік тому +110

      Yeah hes cracked!

    • @boon8950
      @boon8950 Рік тому +33

      😂 Love that man

    • @diligencehumility6971
      @diligencehumility6971 Рік тому +323

      Yeah, but it actually turned out better. He actually introduced an end goal / loop. There were no winning condition before, not even a reason to play.

  • @huistelefoon5375
    @huistelefoon5375 Рік тому +2285

    Developers: fixes bugs and adds gameplay elements
    Tarodev: *BLOOD HARVEST*

  • @neokoga
    @neokoga Рік тому +1586

    I think the instructions to the devs should allow for a 20-30 minute window to hop in the game and get a sense of it before the 4 hour window starts, this way they are developing for 4 hours and not spending some of that time just trying to figure out what it is.

    • @KnightMirkoYo
      @KnightMirkoYo Рік тому +111

      I agree! Although "figuring out what someone's code does" is also a part of development :)

    • @ryanscocca9660
      @ryanscocca9660 Рік тому +45

      it seems to me that they are allowed the time to play the game beforehand and then their time starts when they want

    • @TBH_Inc
      @TBH_Inc Рік тому +27

      Ya, you don’t want them to feel time pressure to not explore the entire game and miss out on important stuff.

    • @Darknova67
      @Darknova67 Рік тому +18

      Would also help to make sure none of them go in there and completely change the games concept

    • @vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
      @vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Рік тому +17

      @@Darknova67 Isn't that part of the fun, having devs misinterpret elements in their own interesting ways?

  • @omegand.
    @omegand. Рік тому +4299

    Taro actually made that many changes in 4hours ? Jesus he's cracked af

    • @izjgxj4275
      @izjgxj4275 Рік тому +539

      Tbf it seemed like he was the most comfortable working in 3d and stuff like the movement script wasnt written on the spot. Very impressive nonetheless he definitely did a great job

    • @QckSGaming
      @QckSGaming Рік тому +110

      Well he just added many of their own pre-made assets in, not from scratch so it's understandable

    • @Sakros
      @Sakros Рік тому +169

      To be fair that's kind of what you wanna be doing regardless: keep all of your scripts from all projects somewhere to use them in later projects. And to be honest I still don't do that, I have literally 24 different movementcontrollers for 3d alone, let alone 2d.. This video showed the power of that a little bit.

    • @izjgxj4275
      @izjgxj4275 Рік тому +54

      @@Sakros yea designing things in a reusable way is definitely the goal for bigger things like movement system and stuff like that :)

    • @Blackthornprod
      @Blackthornprod  Рік тому +449

      He is. Absolute legend

  • @NotTheHeroStudios
    @NotTheHeroStudios Рік тому +2491

    I love how Tarodev just came in and said "nah this game needs to be more brutal, ima change everything"

    • @anthonychase7012
      @anthonychase7012 Рік тому +120

      He basically said “This is cool but it needs more blood like everywhere”

    • @-Seek-17
      @-Seek-17 Рік тому +16

      And made the factory useless

    • @WhiskeyFiend
      @WhiskeyFiend Рік тому +6

      Literally the worst.

    • @-Seek-17
      @-Seek-17 Рік тому +2

      @@WhiskeyFiend so you hate Noah too right

    • @mariox204
      @mariox204 2 місяці тому

      ​@@-Seek-17is impresive in the tecnical aspect after all it did all in 4 hours in the aspect of working on a bigger project with what the other did he is garbage

  • @Graph06
    @Graph06 Рік тому +31

    I feel like in all of these videos there's always one person thats like "nah I dont like this" and scraps a bunch of other people's work

  • @Oskar1000
    @Oskar1000 Рік тому +310

    You should two loops. Would be fun to see people see what everyone else did and add a second pass

    • @iceman10129
      @iceman10129 Рік тому +3

      This is the best suggestion if you ask me. Its like Telestrations

    • @darkshadowsx5949
      @darkshadowsx5949 Рік тому +7

      i would hate to see my work get removed by another dev and probably end up removing their stuff in retaliation.
      this is probably how that suggestion would turn out.
      they should be given more time especially since you can waste a lot of time bug fixing other peoples work and contributing almost nothing. which seems to happen every one of these dev challenges.

    • @iceman10129
      @iceman10129 Рік тому +5

      @@darkshadowsx5949 That or its a rule that you do not remove any core aspects of the game. It should always be refine, refine, refine. Thats the only way you are going to up the quality.

    • @TheEpicSheepGod
      @TheEpicSheepGod 8 місяців тому

      @@iceman10129 I mean tbh no core aspects were really removed, it just went from a slow passive defense progression to a proactive combat progression, he didn't keep everything the first and second dev had but he still kept some elements, the building mechanic was still there, the resource mechanic was still there, he gave a reason for the blood to exist, he improved on the combat mechanic. he didn't really do anything that made the game less fun and arguably just added things that turned the game from something you play once and think its alright to a game that you might play a couple times trying to get a better score.

  • @epistxme
    @epistxme Рік тому +714

    It'd be sick to see one of these go two rounds through everybody

    • @Sakros
      @Sakros Рік тому +38

      Oh yeah, imagine a game takes a total time of a week or so to complete, everyone gets 3 rounds of the game, everytime seeing what everybody else did. I think that would also be fun.

    • @rustywrx
      @rustywrx Рік тому +37

      Taro could complete change it 3 times in a row lol

    • @epistxme
      @epistxme Рік тому +16

      @@rustywrx This is why i need to see it

    • @tiacool7978
      @tiacool7978 Рік тому +2

      I'm really hope they don't his. I'd love to see the finished project above a 5 minute type game. At the very least, I would like to see how much it would change.

    • @darkshadowsx5949
      @darkshadowsx5949 Рік тому +5

      could you image adding things to the game just to see them removed by taro? he has no teamwork skill and took over the whole project.

  • @Pontypants
    @Pontypants Рік тому +555

    Amazing how it turned into an actual game! 😅 So cool to watch what everyone did. Thanks so much for having me on! Cheers! ^.^

    • @Blackthornprod
      @Blackthornprod  Рік тому +26

      Thanks for joining Ponty!

    • @Betruet
      @Betruet Рік тому +10

      You're a champion Ponty, would love to see you in more of these

    • @marcusnguyen7037
      @marcusnguyen7037 Рік тому +1

      It’s nice seeing you get a lot of recognition from other creators! I really love your content and I hope you make more!

    • @GX_Ethernal
      @GX_Ethernal Рік тому +1

      Love you Ponty!

  • @borahbros1664
    @borahbros1664 Рік тому +456

    It hurt so much at the end seeing the whole home building tower defense game destroyed for a boss battle game at the very end

    • @themechanic9974
      @themechanic9974 Рік тому +15

      Yeah

    • @No_Name13098
      @No_Name13098 Рік тому +52

      @@themechanic9974 I really liked the research and waves that could have put in the game

    • @TheHeadlessCreator
      @TheHeadlessCreator Рік тому +77

      Yeah I don’t know why people are praising him from changing it to a generic boss game. This reminds me of the horror game they were making and that developer at the end literally changed everything to make it a boss shooter.

    • @TrynafindLea
      @TrynafindLea Рік тому +3

      I fully agree

    • @TrynafindLea
      @TrynafindLea Рік тому +4

      The game would have been nice if tarodev didn’t ruin it

  • @Maddogs1
    @Maddogs1 Рік тому +750

    Weird, everyone seems to be praising what Tarodev did, but he completely changed the game and undid alot of work that almost everyone before him did - the stone and gold became almost entirely pointless, and it lost all creativity and replayability and just became a super simple boss speedrun...

    • @fuzzybuttz2003
      @fuzzybuttz2003 Рік тому +210

      I was thinking this too, the only buildings that matter are the grinder and titan destroyer, the rest are useless now.
      This was just extremely selfish imo and it looks like there is now a lot less to do, all cuz Tarodev wanted a fast paced game.
      Now the gameplay actually looked boring, watching this guy just run around and shoot enemies into the sky.

    • @kingasparagoose6849
      @kingasparagoose6849 Рік тому +97

      Yeah i kinda hated what he did

    • @capitalcrossant6024
      @capitalcrossant6024 Рік тому +16

      It became better in the end tho

    • @GoddessCynthia
      @GoddessCynthia Рік тому +80

      Yea, the meat grinder and throwing enemies into it is a cool idea in a vacuum, but def not for this project. kinda ruined it tbh.

    • @realGBx64
      @realGBx64 Рік тому +49

      @@capitalcrossant6024 no it didn’t. It became a 3 min slasher game instead of something more tactical.

  • @potatoesforlife2319
    @potatoesforlife2319 Рік тому +311

    I'm so happy to see Ponty in this video. I've been watching him for about 2 years now and seeing him teaming up with everyone to work on this game is just amazing.

    • @MakerFaffa
      @MakerFaffa Рік тому +5

      Same

    • @apesander
      @apesander Рік тому +4

      Yes i, was so happy to hear. He made me go into gamedev.

    • @Scoare
      @Scoare Рік тому +3

      same :)

    • @gigabit6226
      @gigabit6226 Рік тому +2

      Same, glad to see him collaborating with other creators!

    • @Blackthornprod
      @Blackthornprod  Рік тому +16

      A great dev indeed

  • @iceman10129
    @iceman10129 Рік тому +224

    I would love to know what #2 and #3 thought of all their work being thrown in the trash.

    • @bruhmomentum9560
      @bruhmomentum9560 Рік тому +46

      Tarodev is good but I have a feeling he wont be invited again.

    • @Drixitty
      @Drixitty Рік тому +21

      you do know the whole point of the video is they didn't know eachother's intentions

    • @anileaf7267
      @anileaf7267 Рік тому +67

      @@Drixitty Everybody else seemed to understand their intentions fine

    • @CorwinTheOneAndOnly
      @CorwinTheOneAndOnly Рік тому +21

      I'm from the future... it keeps happening...

    • @jensen_2261
      @jensen_2261 Рік тому +65

      @@bruhmomentum9560
      He was invited again and he did great actually. He took the absolutely brutal criticism of everyone here very well and learned from it.

  • @EarnestEdwinEarnerThe3rd
    @EarnestEdwinEarnerThe3rd Рік тому +14

    it went from a game where you defend ur town to the buildings being removed

  • @greenberrygk
    @greenberrygk Рік тому +106

    I definitely liked the game when the goal was research. It gave an incentive to place walls and it made towers unique. I like the grinders and blood systems, but I think that the titan is just not as fun as the original more endless approach.

    • @rocketblaster8701
      @rocketblaster8701 Рік тому +1

      honestly though it could've been worked upon like in the game you the player are clearly pretty large, similar to the titan, so someone might've been able to build upon this by making a mini story where you the player are a friendly giant that has decided to help people by helping with the construction of the town, however then the this much more sadistic giant calling himself titan came along and wants to kill the villagers and you the player are trying to stop him, HOWEVER TARODEV REMOVED THE HOUSES FROM THE GAME so none of the future devs had any idea of what was built before tarodev because it was removed instead of being left in to, hopefully, inspire someone else to build upon it

    • @hope3830
      @hope3830 Рік тому

      @@rocketblaster8701in all fairness, the devs before him made it seem as if you could only have 1 house which was doing research, therefore it goes from a game where you build a town and defend it to a game where you have one house you wall in and surround with towers

  • @LanaLuxGames
    @LanaLuxGames Рік тому +31

    I love how dark this got. :D

    • @Blackthornprod
      @Blackthornprod  Рік тому +5

      True ;D! Sacrificing harmless meat bags to smash a titan. Not too bad.

  • @keithjarvis4352
    @keithjarvis4352 Рік тому +130

    This reminds me of improv - The key element of which is to always say "Yes, and -" so that you can continue to build off a scene. In improv you never want to say no to an idea. But TaroDev said no to a few key elements the other developers added... which would be fine if it were his own project but for a collab like this shouldn't have happened. For as great of a developer as I am sure he is... erasing others work shows a lack of adaptability and inefficiency within a team dynamic

    • @temkin9298
      @temkin9298 Рік тому +16

      The problem is there wasn't much united vision before Taro and was too passive. No end point as research had no point for the player. No conflict no game no fun. All games makes conflict against something. Lona brought about a too aimless feature for others to follow.
      I would've liked to know what would be the end product would be but without Taro game would lack too much.

    • @brendondavid7349
      @brendondavid7349 Рік тому +8

      @@temkin9298 think that problem is solved by giving people more time to work on the game and instead of one session it loops through each dev twice

    • @robertperry934
      @robertperry934 Рік тому +4

      This is the only comment with constructive criticism that’s crazy it’s not just saying “taro bad! he did bad!” It’s actually giving advice to him instead of just saying he did something wrong I thank you good sir

  • @Mr.Hellboi
    @Mr.Hellboi Рік тому +19

    wouldve been cool if you guys had the boss spawn after the research is over

  • @DesignFrameCaseStudies
    @DesignFrameCaseStudies Рік тому +4

    It's fascinating to see everyone's approaches. Thanks for orchestrating this!

  • @franklinbolton8730
    @franklinbolton8730 Рік тому +13

    Would love to see two teams start with the same core concept that you provide and see what they do with it.

  • @Betruet
    @Betruet Рік тому +9

    Great job all! Flippin Vampire Tarodev extracting blood lol. Fun video to watch keep these coming!

  • @keineahnung9311
    @keineahnung9311 Рік тому +163

    I love this Video concept.
    I think it would be cool if you lenghten this process and give every dev 2 times the Chance to polish like : first dev - 2 - 3 -4 - 5 -6 - first again - 2 - 3 -4 - 5 -6.

    • @Blackthornprod
      @Blackthornprod  Рік тому +87

      Hey! Thanks so much. A mega edition with 12 developed is in the making 💪

    • @enzomarujo274
      @enzomarujo274 Рік тому +2

      perfect

    • @enzomarujo274
      @enzomarujo274 Рік тому +2

      @@Blackthornprod PLEASE

    • @xiarno3373
      @xiarno3373 Рік тому +5

      @@Blackthornprod Two chances would still be nice!

    • @highrealist
      @highrealist Рік тому +11

      He probably meant that 6 get a second round, not 12 devs with one round.

  • @jupi0679
    @jupi0679 Рік тому +4

    Love your Videos, also appreciating the effort put into the video itself , and the ideas behind it

  • @kenar420
    @kenar420 Рік тому

    that was so epic and inspiring as someone who's really invested in game design and devlopment in the last month. I gotta say for the video it would have been really fun for all of the devs who didn;t see the final form to see how it looks like in the end.

  • @comfortcornermeditations8254

    You guys blow me away with all of this !!
    Fabulous collaboration 👏👏👏👏

  • @PugTato-
    @PugTato- Рік тому +6

    The problem with no communication is that you have an idea, but when the 5th dev came in, he changed the game to be more about grinding blood and defeating titans. The original game was more about tower defense and protecting a village. There was no balance, and so much was scraped.
    Still amazing at the end. However, it would be better if it kept more aspects of the tower defense.

  • @lucasbyeon7932
    @lucasbyeon7932 Рік тому +10

    It would be really cool to have 10 or even 20 developers working on a game.

  • @jodymoses4596
    @jodymoses4596 Рік тому +2

    It amazing that you guys are so consistent with these games. I woudn't mind seeing Miziziziz and TanTan on these, because I feel like they are very committed to these types of challenges.

  • @PhantomSavage
    @PhantomSavage 6 місяців тому +1

    Some changes that would make this better:
    - Increase the time it takes for the Titan to spawn
    - Bring back the research meter
    - The blood harvester and canons cannot be built until research is at 100%

  • @raptorthefirst
    @raptorthefirst Рік тому +8

    would be nice to see dev reactions what they've got in the end

  • @CreativeSteve69
    @CreativeSteve69 Рік тому +9

    This looked like a fun challenge noah. It was a blast watching what lana did to the game in her part, as well as the others. turned out great.

  • @NevTheDeranged
    @NevTheDeranged Рік тому

    This whole series has really been a joy to watch. Great work, everyone!

  • @theturkey2720
    @theturkey2720 Рік тому +1

    Hi, I haven’t seen any of ur Videos in a while, but I just wanted to say thank you. Your probably the reason why I got really into coding like 3-4 years ago, when I was 16. Now I’m 19 and study CS. Time flys by pretty fast.

  • @Tarodev
    @Tarodev Рік тому +120

    What a great result! So cool seeing which devs added what (but also made me nervous as I may have yeet'd some of them).

    • @Blackthornprod
      @Blackthornprod  Рік тому +17

      It's the name of the game ;D!

    • @Betruet
      @Betruet Рік тому +6

      So glad you are involved in these. Its great to watch everyone's styles smashed together

    • @mayankbhaisora2699
      @mayankbhaisora2699 Рік тому +3

      Taro my man… It’s always fun watching you make game… 🧙‍♂️

    • @anthonychase7012
      @anthonychase7012 Рік тому +1

      Love what you added to the game, I think it needed a bit of a brutal element to it.

    • @Tarodev
      @Tarodev Рік тому

      @@anthonychase7012 🙏

  • @kylebanks
    @kylebanks Рік тому +3

    It's so impressive that these games always end up with a cohesive style and gameplay. Always a joy to watch ☺️

  • @yiannchrst
    @yiannchrst Рік тому

    These videos are so cool! We definitely need more!

  • @dacolib
    @dacolib Рік тому +43

    I know it would need a lot of people, but it would be fun to see this project become like a tree, where after each dev finishes two different devs continue, and then we can see how different each branch became

  • @AIAdev
    @AIAdev Рік тому +13

    In order for tarodev to receive redemption he needed to implement a unicorn. I’m disappointed.

    • @Tarodev
      @Tarodev Рік тому +6

      No joke, I had it in the back of my mind. I almost put it in my video as a cameo 🤣

  • @CommanderSammer
    @CommanderSammer 8 місяців тому

    These videos are so good, I've literally been binging them this week

  • @FGrayce8742
    @FGrayce8742 Рік тому

    Such a great video concept- really enjoyed it! Subscribed

  • @rdr2_fan289
    @rdr2_fan289 Рік тому +57

    Tarodev just hoped in and started to just change the entire game

    • @realGBx64
      @realGBx64 Рік тому +21

      You spelled “ignoring the main part of the challenge” wrong.

    • @gserendipity
      @gserendipity Рік тому +3

      @@realGBx64 as in? the challenge is to "Pass the game" and he did just that, you just hatin' for no reason

    • @gserendipity
      @gserendipity Рік тому +2

      @@realGBx64 you can't accept that tarodev just made the game 10x more fun

    • @realGBx64
      @realGBx64 Рік тому +9

      @@gserendipity sure no official rules were broken, as there were none. He was being a dick by ignoring the game concept and basically just did what he felt like. If you want to make your own game that’s fine, but then don’t pretend to play this game of making a game *together*. I think that detracts from the video.

    • @realGBx64
      @realGBx64 Рік тому +8

      @@gserendipity lol, no. But I came here to watch how people creatively build on each other’s work, instead of you know, what Tarodev did. Also, what is “fun” is subjective, and unlike you, I understand that. What tarodev did was missing the point of the challenge (part of the challenge is cooperation without communication).

  • @andygeers
    @andygeers Рік тому +4

    I love this format of video so much - it is so inspiring to see how quickly it can evolve from one person to the next. If you could persuade Thomas Brush to take part in one that would be fab

  • @cheesymcnuggets
    @cheesymcnuggets Рік тому +5

    Incredible, everyone did very good this time around and the speedrun aspect was a smart final touch.
    I read a comment asking about putting other devs reactions to the final product in and i 100% agree (if they have the spare time of course).
    I’m sure everyone would agree a longer video is worth it but even if you wanted to a specific duration, you’re an amazing editor and that shouldn’t be a problem :)

  • @kawaikami
    @kawaikami Рік тому

    I love this format The Most! Really cool! Thanks and Keep it up!:)
    btw, 2m 21s, though I kept dying several times:D

  • @Smabverse
    @Smabverse Рік тому +1

    I kust keep loving these 'Pass the Game' devlogs!

  • @TylerF891
    @TylerF891 Рік тому +3

    Always look forward to these videos!

  • @ThePenguinMan
    @ThePenguinMan Рік тому +32

    For Christmas you should do a white elephant kind of thing where each dev makes a demo for a game. Then everyone gives a short description of their demo, then you choose which game you want to code on. And at the end everyone gives their game to someone else to keep.

  • @deepspacegod9075
    @deepspacegod9075 Рік тому +2

    The "tower defence idea" was completely scrapped by that guy

  • @MrGoose-thelegendhimself
    @MrGoose-thelegendhimself Рік тому

    I found your channel today, and I am blown away by the effort and skill in these projects. These games look incredible, and are incredibly fun! You guys should consider posting some of your games on steam! Also, what tool do you use when sketching on paper?

  • @msharris22_2
    @msharris22_2 Рік тому +63

    love how tarodev legit went in there said "hey this is cool, Lets just add some blood, defeat the whole perpous of the game and put almost all of everybody elses work in the garbage!".

    • @sipofliquid
      @sipofliquid Рік тому +17

      yeah people praise him for it but he stepped over everyone, took away too much, and was not a team player. dick move

    • @benzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzs
      @benzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzs Рік тому

      ​@@sipofliquid the whole point of the video i s that you cannot communicate with your group so how can you be a team player

    • @zeyface6366
      @zeyface6366 Рік тому +2

      @benzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzs Well, some of the developers playtest to see what direction the game is going in and then build on that. They also try to keep the art style consistent
      Others just ignore the work of the other devs, make their own thing often completely changing what the game is about. Some of them also just add use their own art style everywhere even if it doesn't fit with the game
      Like with the horror game all the devs built on each others work and the game had a clearly defined distinct art style. Then the last dev added a big boss, removed most of the gameplay the other devs had made and made it a basic shooter. He also threw out all of the written story then slapped the blackthornprod art style on everything
      It was such a 180° they had to put fake early version of the boss (that never existed before the last dev) to make it seem like it fit

  • @lifecraftgacha
    @lifecraftgacha Рік тому +10

    I loved the research version more. Maybe they can make it another game mode in the game?

  • @maximebarbero6622
    @maximebarbero6622 Рік тому

    What a great video!!! Happy to see some of that content

  • @skyenet
    @skyenet Рік тому

    I love these challenges! Always awesome results ;D

  • @TheVeryRandomPerson
    @TheVeryRandomPerson Рік тому +45

    I really wished Tarodev did not change the original point of the game. I really liked how it was before he changed everything.

    • @temkin9298
      @temkin9298 Рік тому +2

      Simpler the idea easier to make it is. Idea too complicated without a clear vision is trash in making. Look up people who give their starting as game dev bios , almost everyone of them tells this "Take simple easy to make stuff then build upon the foundation you have done if it has become too unfun then change it up.
      Portal is about portals.
      Half life is about fps , momentum, puzzle solving.
      Sonic is about speed, exploration, momentum, platforming.
      Tower defence genre is protecting something from waves of enemies.
      Rarely does a complicated game ever rise to be a good game.
      So as everyone has said at some point "keep it simple, don't overcopmlicate it"

    • @DemonKing19951
      @DemonKing19951 Рік тому +2

      @@temkin9298 To be fair it wasn't particularly complicated before his modifications. The only thing he did was modify the goal from filling up a bar to reducing a bar. I definitely think for the amount of time they had though he took the better direction. It's way easier to grasp killing the big boss than it is to research a solution to monsters. It's almost like humans evolved in a world where stabbing the giant thing causing you problems is the more natural solution.

    • @charliesgreatguide9792
      @charliesgreatguide9792 Рік тому +1

      I 100% agree.

  • @tankstar5294
    @tankstar5294 Рік тому +63

    "I hope you enjoyed all my new little additions" the additions changes the hole game 9:14

    • @mattthompson1381
      @mattthompson1381 Рік тому +15

      You edited your comment and still misspelled "whole"

    • @constantspider
      @constantspider Рік тому

      @@mattthompson1381 he's beginning to believe

  • @chiefbackpack2577
    @chiefbackpack2577 Рік тому +1

    That’s so cool, crazy how the game is going in one direction and then the next person get it and changes the direction completely.

  • @NotSoTipical
    @NotSoTipical Рік тому

    This is cool. I didnt realise i could go into fullscreen until titan had spawned. Thus not being able to WSDA either. So only moving through quick dash.
    Solid game! And thanks for allowing us to play it.

  • @moocowp4970
    @moocowp4970 Рік тому +3

    I'm forever in awe of how much you all can get done in 4 hours, meanwhile it takes me a whole day/days to get a fraction of this stuff done!

  • @MrHocotateFreight
    @MrHocotateFreight Рік тому +52

    Moral of the story: if you ever start a game dev company, this game of "developer telephone" is perfect for weeding out who will change the game in their own selfish way. As a company manager, you'd want to make sure you get rid of Tarodev first.

    • @svampebob007
      @svampebob007 Рік тому +18

      this is a good example of constructive criticism!
      Nobody can say he's a bad game developer, just not the right developer for the job.
      He literally came in and said "I don't like this, in the trash it goes".
      Tarodev is almost like a newly hired triple A game exec that on his first day barges in the game dev meeting, look at the next FPS development 1 week away from launch and says "scrap that, keep the guns, rewrite the story, we're making a RGP fanfic furry dating simulator now"

    • @floofyduccgang53
      @floofyduccgang53 Рік тому +4

      Don't forget to bit Liam too Anna previous video about making a horror game change the entire thing into a lame third-person shooter near the end

    • @lilacdoe7945
      @lilacdoe7945 Рік тому +4

      I'm not defending him, but ironically, he restored the original vision of the blood diamonds. After all (3:12), they were poorly rendered blood splatters at first 😂

    • @lyo6200
      @lyo6200 Рік тому +4

      Honestly tarodev does an amazing job when he’s the last one, go watch the latest video. And NOA CANNOT BE AT THE END, he COMPLETELY changed the second to last game they made

    • @bsdetector837
      @bsdetector837 Рік тому

      What an idiotic take. Good thing you’re not a company manager 😀

  • @fastalpaca
    @fastalpaca Рік тому

    Great vid! Such a fun concept!

  • @adnzip8198
    @adnzip8198 Рік тому

    I like this concept a lot because it shows the style of different developers and how they add their own little touches to the game! It's very cool to see how as a developer to change the game changes in a different direction than the previous developers' ideas.

  • @ytuser4562
    @ytuser4562 Рік тому +42

    All the devs really improved on and tweaked previous devs’ contributions, while adding a little of their own. They kept each others ideas and created a product that was the culmination of all of them.
    Except Tarodev. He was like “nah let’s change everything these people have already done and rework the entire premise of the game (removing houses and research, making walls useless) cause we need BLOOD”

    • @temkin9298
      @temkin9298 Рік тому +1

      Too little change if you see what they did as improving slightly Taro at least changed the game and built enough that it can be considered a game.
      If the ones before built enough I would say yes Taro f-bombed the premise.
      One dev only changed ui in 4 hrs! I would've wanted them to focus on workable improvements.
      Houses could help teching up to unlock necessary things.
      Trees perhaps would slow the enemies down but given that game looks fps tower defence with no action it is hardly workable.
      It is hard making games and usually games start with many ideas clashing and what is considered best ones gets selected for improvement and implementation. With not much time left with no tangible premise Taro at least down greaded the premise to serve something in the end. Bad games cling to much to unachievable or too unfun ideas and achive less than half, best games refine and redefine themselves through planing and experimenting, hlf2 leak is unrecognizable to released one. If you want a quick well implemented game you have a basic premise, 70%(no research) of all games are war or fight games because it is the most simplest conflict there is. Resource management &tower defence game with the end condition of research needs too much dev timea and coordination.
      24 hrs game jams are usually with a clean vision and understanding without code reading taking too much time. That's why Tero gets praised.

  • @AussieCrime
    @AussieCrime Рік тому +3

    taro really was like, nah these ideas are shit here a new game in 4hrs xd

  • @whyTV51
    @whyTV51 Рік тому +1

    for the love of god pls give every dev atleast 24hrs it’ll make the game look more fun to watch and over all just be more entertaining

  • @mrdanielhendricks
    @mrdanielhendricks Рік тому

    This spaghetti challenge series is dope, keep makin em

  • @mouaztabboush5571
    @mouaztabboush5571 Рік тому +6

    Any plans on looping the challenge? It would be cool for the first developer to continue working on the game after it has been changed so much. This way we also get a chance to see other developers reacting to the change.
    Love your videos

  • @mmheti
    @mmheti Рік тому +287

    A little sad that some are unable to add to the idea without changing it completely. Taro basically erased all the work of previous two devs. Very uncool.

    • @shaun4914
      @shaun4914 Рік тому +10

      Agree

    • @kokujins6931
      @kokujins6931 Рік тому +20

      Not at all he gave purpose to the game

    • @TheManHimslef42
      @TheManHimslef42 Рік тому +25

      @@kokujins6931 there already was a propose to the game and it was go get 100% research

    • @cressothegrey4354
      @cressothegrey4354 Рік тому +24

      @@kokujins6931There already was purpose. You were supposed to build research stations and defend them from pillagers until your research maxed out. Taro completely threw all of that out the window. The final product ended up being not even close to the intention of the other devs

    • @BeanzMcQueens
      @BeanzMcQueens Рік тому +8

      But it was more fun to play.

  • @Jabrils
    @Jabrils Рік тому +1

    This came out REALLY good

  • @boon8950
    @boon8950 Рік тому

    Please do more, this would make a great series. I also found new game Dec youtubers to watch

  • @lvdb2006
    @lvdb2006 Рік тому +4

    Never thought I’d see you make a 3d game!

    • @Blackthornprod
      @Blackthornprod  Рік тому +1

      Maaan it's been a long time ;D! Will be making more from now on though.

    • @lvdb2006
      @lvdb2006 Рік тому

      @@Blackthornprod really good idea I loved this game and I can’t wait to see what else you can come up with! I’m also thinking about doing a pass the game challenge with my friends because of your videos, thanks for the inspiration!

  • @borahbros1664
    @borahbros1664 Рік тому +11

    I’d love to see a spin off to see what could’ve happened if you took the 3rd or 4th version of the build and gave it to different devs

  • @alanaraujo7891
    @alanaraujo7891 Рік тому

    Great video, man! If you guys could get Thomas Brush to participate in one of these challenges that would be WILD!!!

  • @Pr0xy_xx
    @Pr0xy_xx Рік тому +1

    Please keep this series going!

  • @DerpyPotato-cf8qh
    @DerpyPotato-cf8qh Рік тому +5

    I’d love to see Vimlark do one of these

  • @Benjabenjaaaa
    @Benjabenjaaaa Рік тому +5

    Noah: ("Liam is the better player") (Liam: Uses arrow keys) (Anyone who has ever played a game before: )

  • @NoName-sv6iy
    @NoName-sv6iy Рік тому +1

    Devs: Resource harvesting survival game
    Tarodev: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

  • @bluzenkk
    @bluzenkk Рік тому +2

    i think the video need to have a meet up gathering talk at the end of the video.
    It would be very entertaining to see how devs talk to one another on the game they co-op-ly created.

  • @YasserSedrati
    @YasserSedrati Рік тому +67

    Taro is a BEAST.
    He always moves the project he takes too far in the right direction.

    • @FRACTUREDFUNGI
      @FRACTUREDFUNGI Рік тому +20

      not in my opinion, he kind of ruined what was special about the game, just recycled the models and destroyed legit everything else that was there. Like he completely changed the game.

    • @YasserSedrati
      @YasserSedrati Рік тому +7

      @@FRACTUREDFUNGI he makes it fun to play, fun to watch.. and everybody get amazed.
      If the first idea wasn't good enough, no one is forcing the developer to stick to it. He can do whatever he wants, and for most ppl he did the right thing (for you he didn't) and this means 90% ppl liked it and that's a big achievement.
      Better tgan keeping it not fun enough so you will like it and 70% will not.
      And I think what taro added is what makes BTP get excited to the game and publish it, and add speedrun competition.

    • @slimboarder.o7
      @slimboarder.o7 Рік тому +6

      @@YasserSedrati yeah but he just made a New game without using anything that was there before

    • @lawrence4301
      @lawrence4301 Рік тому +1

      @@YasserSedrati I dont think that every single game should follow what the masses wants, and its impossible to tell if 90% of people liked it or not because he didnt stick to the original vision so we've got nothing to compare it to. Theres a timeline where he sees the original idea and sticks closely to it and it ends up with a version that 90% of people like also.
      Also you should generally try and collaborate where possible and not run off and do your own thing. Its not as clear cut in this case because theres no communication available and doing your own thing is a part of the challenge/fun, but people shouldn't push for everyone to just do whatever they personally think would make a project better.

    • @shrek9382
      @shrek9382 Рік тому +4

      @@lawrence4301 bro taro deadass removed half of the game original features.

  • @UnhappySisyphus
    @UnhappySisyphus Рік тому +14

    Taro did the entire game loop essentially xD. What happened to the houses tho?

    • @Tarodev
      @Tarodev Рік тому +7

      I turned them into grinders >

    • @walterh2113
      @walterh2113 Рік тому +1

      How I wish I could turn my house into a grinder

    • @UnhappySisyphus
      @UnhappySisyphus Рік тому

      @@walterh2113 lmao

    • @UnhappySisyphus
      @UnhappySisyphus Рік тому +2

      @@Tarodev ohhhhh... the game seems much better now tho, I like how you changed it to be more fast paced :)

  • @constantspider
    @constantspider Рік тому

    this video was so fun to watch, seeing how each person would add something to make this tower defense game more fun!
    *tarodev*
    R.I.P. tower defense game. i loved you, but now we must move on to fast paced boss killer

  • @DestusG
    @DestusG Рік тому

    Epik challenge must have been really frustrating like a project just came and u have to figure everything out without help. Nice to see pontypants😁✌🏽

  • @ilovequiktrip3110
    @ilovequiktrip3110 Рік тому +31

    It was kind of a bummer when the game was going in one direction, but that one guy entirely changed all of the goals and the point of the game. What happened to researching and protecting your base? If I had been one of the people who worked on the game before he got to it, I would've been pretty disappointed to have my stuff overrided like that
    It was a really cool game in the end though.

  • @tiacool7978
    @tiacool7978 Рік тому +23

    I just want to say the character Lana created looked really nice. But it looked freaking amazing once they made it into the titan character. Whoever did the animations were really on point.

  • @azrhyga
    @azrhyga Рік тому +1

    Awesome!! Very good job doing it!!

  • @Nooumy
    @Nooumy 4 місяці тому

    I like the speedrunning bit at the end would love to sea more of it

  • @shadow61871
    @shadow61871 Рік тому +5

    Kinda sucks that Tarodev just got rid of everyone else's work and made his own thing. He pretty much reset the entire thing and it turned from 6 devs making a game, into 1 dev making a game, and 1 polishing it. This made the video somewhat pointless as it pretty much destroyed the idea of seeing the game evolve.

  • @allanhedlund8007
    @allanhedlund8007 Рік тому +5

    "Liam is the better player"
    Also Liam: immediately starts playing with the arrow keys

  • @LKLM138
    @LKLM138 Рік тому +1

    This is so great consept! Please make it 6 hours per dev.

  • @shakob4875
    @shakob4875 Рік тому

    This is turning out to be a great great series, i’d love to see Thomas Brush on the next project!

  • @tristencox5914
    @tristencox5914 Рік тому +45

    Tarodev: man this is so cool, these guys clearly had a vision of what they wanted thi.s game to be. I'm going to trivialize all the enemies and make the previous building aspect nearly irrelevant

    • @saaskkehhuciha2949
      @saaskkehhuciha2949 Рік тому +6

      I don't get it why you mad at him tbh.
      Liam is literally the one who made so the player can attack, completly erasing the purpose of a tower defend game.
      Because why bother defend the tower if you can just attack the enemy without cost.
      Taro saw that, and probably misunderstood the game and thinking it just a game where you need to kill the enemy, so he gave the game objective, by adding a boss.
      In my opinion Liam is the one to blame.

    • @Volkaer
      @Volkaer Рік тому

      @@saaskkehhuciha2949 Yeah I'd have to agree with Saaskkehh on that.

  • @jackawaka
    @jackawaka Рік тому +6

    pretty great video! pretty cool to see Tarodev's take on everything and to see the progression of the game, I found that the "tower shooting while placing" bug wasn't corrected, as building a grinder allows you to gather blood without placing it.

  • @Zigzagfabricguy
    @Zigzagfabricguy Рік тому +2

    Every other dev: Adds small new features or adds to current ones
    Tarodev: Entirely changes the whole game

  • @PietroChiovaro
    @PietroChiovaro Рік тому +1

    That’s amazing, I would love to join next time 😃

  • @seurg
    @seurg Рік тому +20

    Tarodev for the win.
    Suggestion add 30-60mins to the next devs allowing them to study the current game progress on top of their actual 4hours.

  • @cloudie9450
    @cloudie9450 Рік тому +32

    Tarodev really changed the game.

    • @realGBx64
      @realGBx64 Рік тому +10

      Yeah very disappointing how he put in no effort to understand the concept and refine it, but just totally reworked the whole game.
      Like, I am not that fan of strategy, so let’s make it into a shooter.

    • @granthurley2881
      @granthurley2881 Рік тому +3

      @@realGBx64 i think that he just kinda changed the game to his specialty instead of doing nothing with the four hours he had

    • @realGBx64
      @realGBx64 Рік тому +2

      @@granthurley2881 yeah I am sorry but he didn’t do it “instead of doing nothing”. He did it “instead of respecting and expanding on the work others made”.

  • @echoskelet
    @echoskelet Рік тому

    I love these kinds of projects .Cool

  • @chriskush4058
    @chriskush4058 Рік тому

    Love these type of videos!!

  • @samyam
    @samyam Рік тому +17

    Wow what a cool end product! I love Tarodev’s addition of the big boss and the gruesome blood machines 😆

    • @Blackthornprod
      @Blackthornprod  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Sam! And yeah, Tarodev was on fire!

    • @userjaya32
      @userjaya32 Рік тому +6

      @@Blackthornprod the same fire he used to burn everything the devs before him made.

    • @chilldogs1881
      @chilldogs1881 Рік тому

      worth it to make the game cohesive

    • @LineOfThy
      @LineOfThy Рік тому

      @@userjaya32 not really, he just added enough to make it same very different