Vaste Vrienden | Dutch Short Film (English Subtitles)
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2017
- kandidaatnummer Nederlandse Filmacademie: 100630576
"Stan has been friends with Gijs for a while now, but their friendship just isn't what it used to be."
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This is my first short film. I made it as part of my directors course at the Amsterdam Film School.
I'd like to thank all the people that helped me make this film. It has been a really fun expierence to create my first film. I hope to make more films in the future. This is only the beginning.
Stan: Rohan Sukhraj
Gijs : Julian Moon Snijder
Lotte Verspoor
Roos Peursum
Amir Karagic
Writer/Director: Sjors de Boer
1st AD: Jeanne Veldhoen
DP: Nick van der Feer
1st AC: Matthijs Sluijs
2nd AC: Tom Pranger
Data Handling: Leda Zhang
Gaffer: Keanu van Eck
Best Boy: Thijs Stam
Sound: Thijs Stam
Marlijn van Rossum
Annika Epker
AS: Atze van der Kam
Make-up: Tamara Theijsmeijer
Susan Hartsuiker
Producer: Sjors de Boer
PA : Daud Pechler
Martijn van Renswoude
Ferdi van der Kamp
Editing and Sound Design: Sjors de Boer
Color Grading: Thijs Stam
Niels Lokhorst
Catering: Karin Maasdijk - Фільми й анімація
Growing up and growing apart. LIFE
Its really sad when you love some1 but cant do anything abt it and its more painful when u kw tht the other1 is clueless abt it.
This was really good, could actually be turned into a movie or even a series
Fantastic, true to life and how complicated it can be. Well acted too!
Fantastic. Very tight drama. Character development is concise and the emotion is well developed. I am ready for more!
Well done to the director, both actors and the crew behind the screen, you guys did a good job. And it is really unbelievable that is your first short film which you made it as part of your directors course cause it is really amazing and nice in shorting and evrything.
Congratulation to all of you!
This is a beautiful film. The actors do a very good job of showing their characters. Very well filmed and edited.
Stan loves Gij's but may not know how to express it outside of feeling taken for granted or a bit jealous. Good to see Gij's make the effort to know his friend is important to him. Sweet film .
how does he make an effort ... Gij is a selfabsorbed brat!
Well, he sought him out at the spot where he thought he'd be, to tell him he knew things got out of hand and to say he was sorry. Isn't that an effort that a self-absorbed brat would not make?
considering how they ended up there he definitely is a selfabsorbed brat ... what an a**ehole!
Stan should told Gijs how he really feels about him.
@@livinglife5463 Are you sure that he is in love with Gij? Maybe the loved one is in Utrecht and Stan would love to tell the truth to his friend, who is so much interested in new affairs with girls, a real "hunter", that Stan is afraid to loose his friend. Maybe he already knows that this friendship is a dying one. Gij is not interested in learning. He wants sex and party. Stan does not even talk about these things. I have had this in my life too. During youth we were closest friends. My friend was into sex and drugs and Rock'n Roll. Girls. Fishing. The only thing we shared at the end was our passion for fishing and when I gave this up, there was no fundament for our friendship but the past, not the present and not the future. Today we have this old basic trust (German: Urvertrauen) and somehow we still love each other as friends, but it is a shadow only compared with the past. This happens. And maybe this could happen to Stan and Gij too.
The message is very deep: "Send money and we'll make the sequel".
Your comment is funny, insightful, and perhaps satirical. That would be a reasonable message, btw. Other films have been at least partly funded this way. "The Way He Looks" is an example of a successful gay film developed from a short film that, unlike Vaste Vrienden, already pointed to a happy ending.
the one guy need to tell that one he won't to be with hem
Echt zeer mooi gemaakt Sjors, de verhaallijn, muziek, geluid, realistische camera movement, alles top. Zeker zo doorgaan, mijn sub heb je!
guys, calm down they are not gays. tgey are just best good friends. best friends are too feel jelous . it is normal.
This was a realistic and intimate short film. I felt like I was their with them watching everything transpire. Anyway, THANKS FOR SHARING.
There is a hint of BL in this short film where we find that Stan is sarcastic with Gijs about his many girlfriends but who is hiding the fact that he might have a crush on Stan, who doesn't date girls and is exceedingly handsome. There is a flare-up, it subsides, followed by an apology from Gijs and they're best friends again. It leaves one wondering if this scenario could be the pilot for a 4-part 'romdram' web series of 15-minute videos, which explores how the friendship develops, from the first kiss to them becoming boyfriends.
Do you think so?? I was expecting that, but couldn't see anything....Maybe I'm just to used to Asian BLs where nothing is that subtle... lol
Warren Abeshouse mmm
Dude. No. Lol.
Boyfriends? No. I don't think this is possible. But a developing friendship? Maybe Stan's coming out? Crisis? Happy end or split? Yes.
Just need one best friend like that :(
The black hair guy is really beautiful, those sweet brown eyes.
He is not Dutch.
@@eduardaucamp9272 What is his language? Do you know which passport he has? Your comment sounds a bit racist.
@@RohanSukhraj your not from india bro...i thought you were indian or from suranami
@@RohanSukhraj oww ...ik begrijp.....i was watching your video to learn dutch....coz its been 2 years and im still too bad with dutch😂🤣😂🤣🖖🖖your video was super good
He looks of Indian/Surinamese descent. It was once a Dutch colony. If the parents moved to NL when Suriname gained independence then they chose NL and are also Dutch. There are many beautiful dark skinned Indian- Afro- Asian- Dutch ppl now from colonialism.
You have a great start to your filmmaking career! Bravo!
wouw !! echt heel tof super gaaf en ingrijpend, kan me er helemaal in zien voor kommen. ook goede muziek er bij (maakt het nog ingrijpender). mooi werk en goed gedaan!
wel een pakkende film. Ik heb zoon gevoel dat er nog iets aan komt met stan ;) Ik zie daar toch nog wel een 2de kortfilm van ;)
A poignant,enigmatic moment;beautifully captured💥👌👌👌🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟👍KUDOS to yourself and EVERYONE involved.Looking forward to your next OR a continuation of two characters with an interesting dynamic👋🌟✌
thats quite awhile since I visited NL my native nice to hear one of my languages again.....yeah stan is totally right being real friends is not that easy some people are to selfish and this is with Gijs and correct of Stan to say that to him. Friends means also sharing not your girlfriend but the joy of life the joy of being real friends.
But doesn't have Gij the right to hear what Stan really thinks? Stan does not tell the truth. He does not say: "Gij, we need to talk. I want to tell you one (or more) thing(s).". It seems that he wants to do so, but he doesn't, maybe because he is too pessimistic concerning the results. Friendships can have an end when youth has an end and the adult life is at the edge. They can have an end because of changes in the daily life. Stan changed when he went to Utrecht. Gij maybe is still the same. That can be difficult and a challenge for a friendship.
Muito bom! òtimo roteiro, direção e interpretações. Dizer muito sem precisar falar muito. As entrelihas estão cheias de significado. Amei!
Super mooie film, heel goed gedaan man!
Super gaaf Sjors!
First off Stan is a beautiful man WOW and love his voice too!!!
He doesn't need that twit Gijs who is always trying to control him!
Interesting short film
Geweldig!
Man Stan doesnt have a crush on the sucker Gijs. Stan is a good friend, cares for hes best friend. But the other guy isn a douche and just cares about his ego n hes chicks. He uses Stan with the best friend bond for hes own agenda. Stan is sort of sickm of it, as naturally any other person feels when they are being used and taken for granted and not corresponded
I'm not sure if you're right. Maybe it is just a friendship with does not develop like the two characters do. Gij maybe is like he always was and can't understand that Stan changed in Utrecht. Boys want to have fun. That is Gij. And Stan? He is not the Stan Gij knew before Stan left their city to study in Utrecht.
Hope, there is a second part of the story. Good acting!
I saw your film today 2-18-18. Don't understand Dutch language but I tried to go by what I saw and perceived . Looks like Stan felt left aside by Gijs's other interest. That interest being the girl Stan feeling left behind or replaced in priority of Gijs life. Glad they made up. But I see more of the same down the road. Sad but true in many peoples lives. Good acting and story line. Good club music.
Hey, Thomas! Thanks for your comment! It is really exciting to know that people from other countries are watching my film!
Because of your comment I have now translated the film and added English subtitles.
I like the way you approached the story and how you interpreted the characters. Your feedback is appreciated!
Maybe you could rewatch the film with subtitles and see if the story holds up to your original viewing!
Thanks, once again!
-Sjors de Boer
Went back to watch it with English subtitles. Got a better idea of the film. Thank you. On another note: I have been following a fellow Dutch, a guy named Dwayne Verheyden from Monfort Holland. He plays accordion in the style of Norteno/Tex/Mexican music. He is doing very well in the US and Mexico. He's on UA-cam and other social media's. Keep your work in film. Will make an effort to follow you. Tom in Minneapolis, MN.
Sjors de Boer so ... there seems to be some debate on whether Stan had feelings for Gijs ... was it complicated? Did he have a crush? Or was he just tired of Gijs’ possessiveness?
I found that I was "triggered" by the way Stan wasn't communicating with Gijs. By that I mean that, to me, his frustration apparently was growing but he did not address the issue or confront Gijs with his feelings. Something that goes wrong in many relationships (romantic or not) in my opinion. I also got the impression that they hadn't seen each other for a while (during the beginning of the sort) so that was a little confusing for me. What happened to the friendship up to the point we as viewers joined the two men? The build up of Stan's frustration was very good conveyed. It was believable. I expected an out burst of anger or emotions. Like some one else in the comments, I also wonder if the friendship will endure. Due to the non-communication on Stan's part. I have no knowledge on the making of films so I can't give any input on that. :) But I would like to mention that the camera work was good for me. The way it all was filmed.
Some thoughts I had as well.
Well executed but disappointing, because whatever needed to happen between them didn't happen. At the end they're just back to their unsatisfactory status quo. As a story this doesn't work. In 14 minutes we want more than a situation; we want some resolution, change, or development. Stan can't hide forever that he has a crush on Gijs. They need to deal with that, if they want to be real friends. In this respect, we get 14 minutes in which nothing important happens.
Clearly, the writer/director Sjors de Boer has the skill and talent and access to actors and production support to create a quality film that works as a story as well.
*_Veel succes!_*
alwaysuseless I somewhat disagree. What audiences want, or rather what we have been continued to expect, can run counter to effective and original storytelling in film-making. In my view short films can be compared with short stories, or musical tone poems. In each of these expressions beginnings middles and ends may be employed. However, there is no golden empirical rule convention should be followed.
I believe the film-maker succeeded in this short film in not over complicating the storytelling. Essentially, this is a captured moment of a relationship that has elements of co-dependence. One character is socially subservient to another, yet resents both being used, and not being appreciated for his attachment. Yes, this fictional emotional relationship can be seen in real life sexually emerging gay men; but it can also be seen among young heterosexuals. When all is said and done I think the film-maker has brought off this work with economy and purpose.
It’s amazing how the short film has been made into the most frustrating art form ever.
We? You can say what you want, but you don't know what all the other people want. It is a short film. We don't know much about the development of the friendship before as well. We just see the door open for a moment. Let your fantasy play, if you want. Maybe the friendship will develop. Maybe Stan will tell his friend that it is more than friendship. Maybe he will tell him that there is more than friendship in Utrecht. Maybe there will be a crisis and maybe their friendship will have an end because they do not understand each other anymore. Maybe their friendship will grow and be a fundament for both for the rest of their lifes. Maybe they will forget each other. But it is a short film. Too many "maybe's"...
I really liked it !
@@matsoh3161 Of course, I can't predict how little a given viewer may expect, want, or require from a short film. But you can't change the definition of "story" by demanding so little. A story, long or short, has a beginning, middle, and end. That, in large part, is the difference between a *story* and a *situation.* "Vaste Vrieden" gives us a situation; it doesn't tell a story. For a film of 14-minutes duration, I find that disappointing. In those 14 minutes the filmmaker could have given us more, and if done well, it would be a better film. Note that I'm not claiming that the film could or could not have been a satisfying story without being longer than 14 minutes. A proof in the affirmative would be in the pudding (i.e., in that accomplishment), which we don't have here.
what is saundtrack? what is the song? in party
Gaaf gedaan Sjors, respect
Not the ending I expected
That was a great short film, thank you. The acting, direction and production were better than I expected having watched a few short films recently. The only thing is the ending which was kind of a return to the status quo in their friendship. Not sure what would work well as an alternative ending without extending the story line further.
@@esrat2508 hey?
This is very good! :)
Heel vet gemaakt man.
What's the song that plays at the club? Also, I feel that Stan is still doubting the friendship he has with Gijs.
Heel gaaf!
About becoming a good film director: some has got it - others just havent. You definitely has it. Hopefully you will start using your talent!
k weet dits off topic maar STAN IS ZO KNAP
Really rather a sad film. Although they make up at the end you can see where their friendship is going. Stan's feelings for Gijs have mutated into love, but Gijs is not going to reciprocate to this new reality. Ultimately Stan will take the train to Utrecht and not come back.
It is easy to miss the subtitles. They are grey on black, in a tiny font at the very bottom of the screen.
Leuk Sjors!!
❤
Rohan Sukhraj lekker bezig man! Ziet er goed uit ❤💪🏼
were you grandparents Guyanese?
Rohan, you are a good actor. You conveyed a lot without saying too much. I would like to see you in a more developed role. Good luck.
Indian ?
Hi boy 😍
Well done
The two should just kiss already or go their separate ways. The film raises conflict but doesn't resolve it. That does not make for a good film and is why many feel frustrated with the ending, because there was no real ending, just more of the unsatisfactory sameness.
Too much like life. LOL!
Hence why people waste an hour or more watching a movie to escape it.
Subtitles don’t show up
Hebt u en 2nd part?
Mooie film.
I couldn't read the subtitles in very small print on a very dark background, but one didn't need to to pick up the theme of alienation between the white Dutch and the minority Indonesian population which has been going on for the last 75 years and is replicated all over Europe. And yet the bond of love and friendship on the part of the Dutch boy for his friend is very strong and intense and may lead to a physical sexual relationship that is deeply genuine for both of them not finding it elsewhere.
do they have feelings for each other but Gijs has no clue and Stan knows?
Im straight and i got jealous when my nest friends treat me nothing cause im fucking good friends to them .. they are not gays its just i feel this thing man🤦🏻♂️
Nou goed, ik kijk em nog een 2e keer dan ;)
Both kids have their own deeper meaning of friendships at the start.
The other guy is kind exploring his own true sexuality- undiscovered yet, and tries to validate it by navigating with other opposite sex. He got his Danielle girl already, but he finds her uninteresting. Yet, when his friend left him with the packs of pretty girls in the club, he was angry, worried and run after Stan. This symbolizes that Stan is more important than the pretty girls, is it not?
Many young men (unknowningly gay) are trying to discover what they really want inside their own feelings, but could not bervalize - such kind of feelings.
It was that abandoning night that started to wake him up in a situation that he is more at ease with Stan's presence than those libidinal girls.
Btw, only women can turn men weak in their knees. Straight men are opportunist when pretty women around.
The abandoning of his friend at the club, somehow created a stage of a slowly discovering his own feelings towards Stan - He put more premiums for Stan's friendship & presence.
Unluckily, the script & the director just hang in there with complete abandoned, while the story & the feelings of the two kids start building up in a higher level of friendship commitment. Dang!
Stan is a smart kid -more aware kid on what he likes and feelings inside him towards his friend, but still waiting for the right moment on how & when is the right moment to express his own meaning of deeper friendship. He got already what he wanted from his friend - Stan wants his friend to focus on their current feelings. Beautifully made short film. 👏
Looks like Stan wanted more than friendship with Gijs who is a womanizer. They seem to have made up in the end after their quarrel but their differences seem to remain. As such not sure what the short is trying to tell.
ME EITHER - IT'S FRUSTRATING! WHAT A STUPID MEANINGLESS ENDING...
People grow apart. They will fight again until its eventually over. Stan is moving on. Gijs will be the guy who stays at that high school level mentality, always trying to relive the successes of the past because his present is just not that great.
There are a couple of messages I got from what I watched. First, relationships change as you get older; you may have different interests or whatever, things just change. Second, not being honest with yourself or others can cause problems in relationships; don't keep secrets or keep things bottled inside from people who are important to you. Third, true friends will admit a mistake or accept an apology and move forward; don't be the one to hold on to anger.
Nick Villanueva That’s literally every Wehraboo (pro-Nazi era Wehrmacht era Americans that aren’t German by nationality or descent)
Rajbkkl Äße ß.
Left me completely puzzled. Wish they had said the unsaid.
another short which leaves you hanging...
es de vital importancia captar lo antes posible a la persona manipuladora, si entra en tu vida puede hacerte desgraciado si no le paras los pies de inmediato.
The brown guy is the Alpha, yet powerless...
How is he alpha?
what´s the point of this short ...?
Rajbikkl -- The last few words lead me to think there had been "more" to their friendship "back in the day". Gijs has trouble maintaining an emotional relationship with anyone but Stan. With girls it's strictly about the sex.
Hi winsboy. No, I think they just saw more of each other when they were in high school. Now Stan has gone off to university, while still not having told Gijs that he has a crush on him.
@@alwaysuseless - Hey, Kiddo! Too long between my/our comments. Anyway, I can't help feeling that Gijs feels a need to keep Stan in his life. Gijs obviously cares more for his friend than all the girls he hits on, whether or not he's ready to face that fact remains to be seen. At this point at least one more episode is needed for them both to be honest with themselves and each other. Leaving things as they are isn't healthy for anyone. Let's hope Sjors de Boer hasn't moved on to bigger and better things and will cleanup the mess he left us to deal with. Hope all is well with you, my friend!
@winsboy It's too bad the instructor in Sjors de Boer's directing class didn't specify upfront that the students' films had to tell a story, not just present a situation.
Sjors de boer, onthoud de naam
It’s a Bromance,but Stan is a little more into it.Gigi doesn’t have a clue.
I think Stan is jealous
P
Heel vet maat!
The intro is kak funny
8:07 that voice crack lmao
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I may be stupid but I don't get the moral of the story😓
😘
goede muziek ook
Friendship is love without sex and lasts the space of a morning . Sex , like beton , includes love and even friendship . According my gay experience.
is this real dutch or is it slang
It’s real. There’s slang though... just like there would be with ppl in any language.
Vette short film goed gemaakt, stein85 out✌
the bad thing is that,the guy with the black hair,never showed his real feelings he had on his best friend.
Ooooh ik zee het wel, hij is jaloors. Ik dacht dat het "Bros before hoes" was. Maar nee "f*ck de game" lol
The remotes not even on -.-
I'm afraid it's only an argument.
Gaat he echt naar en feestje of en wedding
🇪🇸 ❤ ESTA TÍA lo que NO TIENE ES VERGUENZA 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
Eerst liken dan kijken xd
Strange film! Like the life; nothing, apparently, happens!
Dude there aren't English subtitles click bait!!!!!!
You have to turn them on in the Video Player!
@@sejecem OK thanks!!
That indian guy speaks such a good Dutch
Because he looks indian he’s supposed to speak bad Dutch? He’s Dutch born...
How pointless was that! A narcissistic mate and a complete carpet. Stan was a pushover. He even said it himself. So then Stan just gets pulled back (commonly known as 'hoovering' ) to be abused again. Control is not friendship, its just control.
The ending was weak
Really? Maybe because the two characters are weak? Like people are very often? There must not be a happy or a tragic end. The end of a film can be like that too, frustrating maybe.
and what is point?..
Remind me again, WHY this is under gay related videos?
Unfortunately, we live in a time when any closeness between men is considered gay. Friendship has been impoverished in our time.
sadly, it's true ...
Well that was boring
Pointless!
WHAT A STUPID, MEANINGLESS ENDING... WASTE OF TIME...
Boring