I just completed the game, and really enjoyed it. However, the choices at the end are quite intriguing, and both scenarios dont actually work too well for both of them, if you look closely. Norah staying with Harry means that, she dies inevitably, and with her passing, Harry is left alone for the rest of his days, but at least they could spend a few more years together. While this is is sad, this something that all of us will go through, but, the memories never die, or go away and that is normally something "comforting". With Nora choosing her fate, while many would think it is best for her as she would be spending eternity with no pain, sickness, death and never growing old, would be quite intriguing. However, throughout the game, and specially at the end, it is hinted strongly that were she to choose her fate, her basic existence, as a human, would stop, and every trace of her would be wiped away, specially when she says "Goodbye Harry". Her memories of her love for Harry, and another other memories, good or bad. Also, she would be part of a hivemind, and that normally entails, conforming to a central thinking, which mean, no free will, no free thoughts, and above all, no ability to love, except the Elder God. While Harry is yes alone, knows that Norah is alive and healthy, but he knows he will never see her ever. And she , will never remember him, never worry how he is, or, know if he has passed away , or even know that he loved her. From that moment on, her thoughts, actions, desires, are determined by the hivemind. So I think the question would be, if u could live forever, would you want to live knowing and remembering someone, or live forever as a entirely different being who has basically been "rebooted", as that is definitely something hinted at in the story. Still an amazing game, some of the puzzles got a bit "frustrating" towards the latter part of the game but the overall experience was good. And the ending, I think will get people talking for a long time.
Wow, I didn't think about a hivemind, I do think that her choices at the end are somewhat clear but as you said, the consequences not so much. And you're right about the memory wipe, that would explain why all the picture frames in her "house" near the end are empty. When you first visit her home it's full of them, but they're all gone upon her 2nd and subsequent visits, I didn't piece that puzzle together, but it makes total sense. I thought the game was amazing too and it might appear "simpler" on the surface than it really is. In my video, I tried to focus less on the outcome/consequences and more on the path towards there as I thought her transformation (figuratively) was the most interesting part of the story to me. But yeah, very cool thoughts 🙂 thank you for the comment!
@@CheeseTurbulence your review was brilliant, summed up the game perfectly and succinctly. As with most things in life, we all perceive things differently, which does not make it wrong or right, just an observation. It is easy for us to sometimes sit on the sidelines, but were we in her shoes, what would we do with no hindsight. Looking forward to your next reviews...
woah - I didn't think of that. This is such a tragic love story. OMG yes the puzzles we're frustrating towards the end. Thank you for that perspective - I'm reeling with the idea.
Regarding the natives and the black-ooze, there’s also the possibility (actually it’s very likely) that the segregation between the masters and slaves existed before the meteor hit the island. After that, some of them were transformed or showed symptoms similar to Harry’s expedition. Maybe the masters also used the “water animals” for doing more labor-intensive work, getting to places that were otherwise impossible. Regardless of that though, I think there’s still a lot of mystery around the lore of this game, e.g. I don’t understand the weird family tree you see when you open the notebook during the desert vision Norah has. None of the names seem to be otherwise mentioned in the game and the tree starts with Harry, not Norah. So his involvement might be bigger than what the story initially conveys.
I tend to aggree with your "master and slave" theory as looking at the one level of the game, how masters lived WAY up higher than the salves, and the slaves had to endure the raising and falling water, not the masters. If this were the case, the game also never fully explains if Nora and her mother are part of the "Master" or "Slave" race. In addition, your highlighting that Harry was mentioned instead of Norah, is interesting as well!
I thought the family tree was strange as well. One part it mentions an uncle and she says I don't have an uncle by that name? You have to wonder if her mom knew of her past and was her family the masters or a slave? I assume the second since they rose up too take down the masters and her ancestor escaped the island somehow. So where was Harry the whole time? It seems weird that he was simply in hiding and forced her to find him when he was fine the whole time..
What a lovely review and analysis ! Such a shame this game flew under the radar. I couldn't bear to keep Nora and her husband apart. The resolution in that ending is so romantic and cathartic. I have never been in a serious relationship so it was nice putting myself in Nora's shoes......
What a wonderfully compiled video dear sir. Both visuals and sound were just perfect. Spitting facts and making sense which I did not even think of. This game filled a little void of ever ending Firewatch for me. Although I think both are worlds apart, the genre is what feels home to me.
I chose the accept your fate ending because how could she really enjoy being with Harry if she's bedridden with agonizing pain in her illness. Either way, her mortal will end, at least this way she can live on in a sense. It was a really sad ending though. Maybe I just chose it to satisfy my curiosity of what the people that made all the sculptures and art on the island look like though lol.
I just finished the game, and it was just amazing, while both endings tragic, i find the ending with norah choosing to be next to harry to perhaps being the most honrable, maybe even the best, atleast it is the one which resonated the most with me. overall, beautiful game.
Wow! Dank für dein Video! Ich konnte mich extrem mit dem Spiel identifizieren. Ich bin selber schwer und unheilbar krank. Muss den ganzen Tag im Bett liegen und mein Partner pflegt mich. Ich habe jeden Tag starke Symptome und Schmerzen. Aber ich liebe meinen Partner über alles und ich versuche die kleinen Dinge zu geniessen, Zeit mit ihm zu verbringen, 1-2x im Monat kann ich mit dem Rollstuhl ein bisschen raus gehen. Diese Dinge genisse ich. Auch wenn ich gesund werden könnte, würde ich es nicht wollen, wenn ich dafür meine Partner, den ich so sehr liebe und meine Familie nie mehr wiedersehen könnte. Die Krankheit ist schrecklich, aber meinen Freund und meine Familie zu verlieren wäre für mich schlimmer. Das Spiel hat mich wirklich mitgenommen. Danke dir für dein Video!☺️ (Sorry wegen dem deutschen Kommentar, da es etwas komplexer war ist es einfach in der Muttersprache zu schreiben.)🤗
The game explains this and he says it in the video: if Harry went back to her alive and explained everything to her, he was afraid that she might make the choice to continue living with her sickness along with him and die an early death. By him luring her to the island and faking his death, he was hoping that she would stay and perform the ritual, forgetting about him, and she would continue living forever as a water animal. He was trying to force her to make the decision he thought was best.
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I just completed the game, and really enjoyed it. However, the choices at the end are quite intriguing, and both scenarios dont actually work too well for both of them, if you look closely. Norah staying with Harry means that, she dies inevitably, and with her passing, Harry is left alone for the rest of his days, but at least they could spend a few more years together. While this is is sad, this something that all of us will go through, but, the memories never die, or go away and that is normally something "comforting". With Nora choosing her fate, while many would think it is best for her as she would be spending eternity with no pain, sickness, death and never growing old, would be quite intriguing. However, throughout the game, and specially at the end, it is hinted strongly that were she to choose her fate, her basic existence, as a human, would stop, and every trace of her would be wiped away, specially when she says "Goodbye Harry". Her memories of her love for Harry, and another other memories, good or bad. Also, she would be part of a hivemind, and that normally entails, conforming to a central thinking, which mean, no free will, no free thoughts, and above all, no ability to love, except the Elder God. While Harry is yes alone, knows that Norah is alive and healthy, but he knows he will never see her ever. And she , will never remember him, never worry how he is, or, know if he has passed away , or even know that he loved her. From that moment on, her thoughts, actions, desires, are determined by the hivemind. So I think the question would be, if u could live forever, would you want to live knowing and remembering someone, or live forever as a entirely different being who has basically been "rebooted", as that is definitely something hinted at in the story. Still an amazing game, some of the puzzles got a bit "frustrating" towards the latter part of the game but the overall experience was good. And the ending, I think will get people talking for a long time.
Wow, I didn't think about a hivemind, I do think that her choices at the end are somewhat clear but as you said, the consequences not so much. And you're right about the memory wipe, that would explain why all the picture frames in her "house" near the end are empty. When you first visit her home it's full of them, but they're all gone upon her 2nd and subsequent visits, I didn't piece that puzzle together, but it makes total sense.
I thought the game was amazing too and it might appear "simpler" on the surface than it really is. In my video, I tried to focus less on the outcome/consequences and more on the path towards there as I thought her transformation (figuratively) was the most interesting part of the story to me.
But yeah, very cool thoughts 🙂 thank you for the comment!
@@CheeseTurbulence your review was brilliant, summed up the game perfectly and succinctly. As with most things in life, we all perceive things differently, which does not make it wrong or right, just an observation. It is easy for us to sometimes sit on the sidelines, but were we in her shoes, what would we do with no hindsight. Looking forward to your next reviews...
woah - I didn't think of that. This is such a tragic love story. OMG yes the puzzles we're frustrating towards the end. Thank you for that perspective - I'm reeling with the idea.
@@CheeseTurbulenceI think in the end she said something about living as one at the “fate” ending
Regarding the natives and the black-ooze, there’s also the possibility (actually it’s very likely) that the segregation between the masters and slaves existed before the meteor hit the island. After that, some of them were transformed or showed symptoms similar to Harry’s expedition.
Maybe the masters also used the “water animals” for doing more labor-intensive work, getting to places that were otherwise impossible.
Regardless of that though, I think there’s still a lot of mystery around the lore of this game, e.g. I don’t understand the weird family tree you see when you open the notebook during the desert vision Norah has. None of the names seem to be otherwise mentioned in the game and the tree starts with Harry, not Norah. So his involvement might be bigger than what the story initially conveys.
I tend to aggree with your "master and slave" theory as looking at the one level of the game, how masters lived WAY up higher than the salves, and the slaves had to endure the raising and falling water, not the masters. If this were the case, the game also never fully explains if Nora and her mother are part of the "Master" or "Slave" race. In addition, your highlighting that Harry was mentioned instead of Norah, is interesting as well!
I thought the family tree was strange as well. One part it mentions an uncle and she says I don't have an uncle by that name? You have to wonder if her mom knew of her past and was her family the masters or a slave? I assume the second since they rose up too take down the masters and her ancestor escaped the island somehow. So where was Harry the whole time? It seems weird that he was simply in hiding and forced her to find him when he was fine the whole time..
What a lovely review and analysis !
Such a shame this game flew under the radar.
I couldn't bear to keep Nora and her husband apart. The resolution in that ending is so romantic and cathartic.
I have never been in a serious relationship so it was nice putting myself in Nora's shoes......
Not a word about how Call of the Sea is inspired by and even part of the Cthulhu mythos.
What a wonderfully compiled video dear sir. Both visuals and sound were just perfect. Spitting facts and making sense which I did not even think of. This game filled a little void of ever ending Firewatch for me. Although I think both are worlds apart, the genre is what feels home to me.
Thank you so much, very much appreciated! 🙇♂️
Fantastic analysis. Just finished the game and this video helped me understand some of the things I missed.
Thank you, much appreciated! 🙂
I chose the accept your fate ending because how could she really enjoy being with Harry if she's bedridden with agonizing pain in her illness. Either way, her mortal will end, at least this way she can live on in a sense. It was a really sad ending though. Maybe I just chose it to satisfy my curiosity of what the people that made all the sculptures and art on the island look like though lol.
I just finished the game, and it was just amazing, while both endings tragic, i find the ending with norah choosing to be next to harry to perhaps being the most honrable, maybe even the best, atleast it is the one which resonated the most with me. overall, beautiful game.
What a beautiful analysis! This game is a truly amazing experience
Thank you very much! 🙂
Wow! Dank für dein Video! Ich konnte mich extrem mit dem Spiel identifizieren. Ich bin selber schwer und unheilbar krank. Muss den ganzen Tag im Bett liegen und mein Partner pflegt mich. Ich habe jeden Tag starke Symptome und Schmerzen. Aber ich liebe meinen Partner über alles und ich versuche die kleinen Dinge zu geniessen, Zeit mit ihm zu verbringen, 1-2x im Monat kann ich mit dem Rollstuhl ein bisschen raus gehen. Diese Dinge genisse ich. Auch wenn ich gesund werden könnte, würde ich es nicht wollen, wenn ich dafür meine Partner, den ich so sehr liebe und meine Familie nie mehr wiedersehen könnte. Die Krankheit ist schrecklich, aber meinen Freund und meine Familie zu verlieren wäre für mich schlimmer. Das Spiel hat mich wirklich mitgenommen. Danke dir für dein Video!☺️
(Sorry wegen dem deutschen Kommentar, da es etwas komplexer war ist es einfach in der Muttersprache zu schreiben.)🤗
Thank you for the review, that helped piece together a lot of the questions I had when I played the game. The review was excellent!
Thank you very much for watching! 🙂
Danke!
Loved your interpretation!
great video man for a great game
Glad you enjoyed it! (the game _and_ the video!)
Closed out at the spoiler warning a minute in lol, I'll be back when I've finished it!
Video will be here waiting for you! 😛 Also check out the comment from @stan edgie (pinned) he makes a great point too.
less than three!
Called it in first 30 mins
why did harry lure norah tho
The game explains this and he says it in the video: if Harry went back to her alive and explained everything to her, he was afraid that she might make the choice to continue living with her sickness along with him and die an early death. By him luring her to the island and faking his death, he was hoping that she would stay and perform the ritual, forgetting about him, and she would continue living forever as a water animal. He was trying to force her to make the decision he thought was best.
@@GaetanLloyd At least it backfired in a way: Nora ended up having the choice to her own regardless.