I like that these are still affordable compared to other ones... I'm still trying to plan my setup and I'll be going about it in stages, first engine goes in and gets dialed in, then suspension/brakes...then fuel and turbo...My goals for my Lincoln aren't high, I'm aiming for 350-400ish hp...I'm not racing, just looking to make a nice cruiser with enough power to move out of it's own way, keep up with modern traffic....and not blow up in the process.
Never ended up using these. After switching to onboard air boost control everything worked perfectly with our old $60 eBay gates. I’ve actually been meaning to sell these since I don’t need them anymore.
If you are having boost control issues it’s likely due to your wastegate tube basically being at a T on the header. They need to have some angle to them or mount on a bend.
Zero boost issues since we switched to onboard air. Matter of fact the original setup is working so well now that I never even put these VS Racing gates on and am thinking about just selling them. The problem, as several people already guessed, was actually the oversensitive 4port mac valve. Now that it’s out of the equation the boost control is working flawlessly and buttery smooth. Check out the newer videos for more info.
Usually yes when dealing with open loop boost control or just a set boost pressure. When using closed loop boost control as we’re doing it can lead to erratic surging as the ecu tried to catch the overboost and pull DC from the MAC valve causing the boost to fluctuate up and down as you can see in the last track day video. However in recent testing when I take the boost controller out of the equation and just run on gate pressure I have zero boost creep issues which tells me the wastegate placement isn’t the issue at all. I just don’t think using a 4-port and fluctuating compressor air as a reference is going to work out. So we’re switching over to an onboard air setup within the next week or two instead of continuing to fight this current setup.
They’re actually exact knockoffs of the JGS gates that Motion Raceworks sells for $500, not the BSI gates. I corrected that in a pinned comment after seeing the JGS gates in person.
Thanks for the information! I love the piston setup vs a rubber diaphragm. Im building a twin vsracing 7875 gbody and was looking for a nice set of gates for a while
They say Imitation is the best form of flattery. Those VS are not even close to the quality as the black sheep wastegate.. IMO.. Remember you pay for what to get.
Can’t wait to try these bad boys out! Apparently these are clones of the JGS piston style wastegates, not the Blacksheep wastegates. My mistake.
They look awesome 👌shorting the existing gate piping looks like a winner.!
I like that these are still affordable compared to other ones...
I'm still trying to plan my setup and I'll be going about it in stages, first engine goes in and gets dialed in, then suspension/brakes...then fuel and turbo...My goals for my Lincoln aren't high, I'm aiming for 350-400ish hp...I'm not racing, just looking to make a nice cruiser with enough power to move out of it's own way, keep up with modern traffic....and not blow up in the process.
Thanks for the great review! I'm looking into one of these for my bmw how is yours working for you?
I like them.. a tad bit simpler and eliminates the diaphragm as a failure point… may be in my future for a set of these
What do you think about the gen2 44mm vs wastegate?
Never ended up using these. After switching to onboard air boost control everything worked perfectly with our old $60 eBay gates. I’ve actually been meaning to sell these since I don’t need them anymore.
@@BadLuckGaragewanna sell these to me ill buy em
Thankk you for making this video..good stuff i just subscribed aswwwell keep up the good work
Awesome, thank you!
If you are having boost control issues it’s likely due to your wastegate tube basically being at a T on the header. They need to have some angle to them or mount on a bend.
Zero boost issues since we switched to onboard air. Matter of fact the original setup is working so well now that I never even put these VS Racing gates on and am thinking about just selling them. The problem, as several people already guessed, was actually the oversensitive 4port mac valve. Now that it’s out of the equation the boost control is working flawlessly and buttery smooth. Check out the newer videos for more info.
Pretty sweet. Wonder how long those orings last with no lubrication, the heat will burn off anything you use.
Seem to be doing pretty well. The black sheep industries gates are the same setup and have been out for a few years now with a fantastic reputation.
@@BadLuckGarage that’s awesome. If mine ever fails, I may look into these. I have a tial right now, I learned my overboost lesson with eBay cheapies.
Wouldn’t poor gate placement give you a higher boost by not efficiently exhausting pressure??
Usually yes when dealing with open loop boost control or just a set boost pressure. When using closed loop boost control as we’re doing it can lead to erratic surging as the ecu tried to catch the overboost and pull DC from the MAC valve causing the boost to fluctuate up and down as you can see in the last track day video. However in recent testing when I take the boost controller out of the equation and just run on gate pressure I have zero boost creep issues which tells me the wastegate placement isn’t the issue at all. I just don’t think using a 4-port and fluctuating compressor air as a reference is going to work out. So we’re switching over to an onboard air setup within the next week or two instead of continuing to fight this current setup.
Thanks for sharing. I bet theyre the same as BSI's gates. Ordered mine today!
They’re actually exact knockoffs of the JGS gates that Motion Raceworks sells for $500, not the BSI gates. I corrected that in a pinned comment after seeing the JGS gates in person.
Thanks for the information! I love the piston setup vs a rubber diaphragm. Im building a twin vsracing 7875 gbody and was looking for a nice set of gates for a while
@@Carolina_Squid Hell yea! Sounds beastly!😈
Hey. I think you should do on board air! Yeah, do on board air. I bet on board air is the way to go. 🤣🤣
Good idea!!😄
@@BadLuckGarage 🤣😁
My gate is working well so far. Very simple to use. 4 pound spring gives me 4 pounds.
Good to hear! Hopefully I’ll have a similar experience because 3-4lbs is what I want on gate.
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They say Imitation is the best form of flattery. Those VS are not even close to the quality as the black sheep wastegate.. IMO.. Remember you pay for what to get.
Thanks for watching. Glad this video helped you out!
@@BadLuckGarage Well I was trying to help you out do not waste your money By the original.
@@PontiacLS Thanks for watching. Glad this video helped you out!