Chris Simms' 2024 Top 40 QB Countdown: No. 22 Derek Carr | Chris Simms Unbuttoned | NFL on NBC
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
- Chris Simms dives into the "Glory Days (Passed You By?)" tier of his 2024 Top 40 QB rankings, with Derek Carr coming in at No. 22 on the list. #NBCSports #ChrisSimmsUnbuttoned
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Chris Simms' 2024 Top 40 QB Countdown: No. 22 Derek Carr | Chris Simms Unbuttoned | NFL on NBC
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"Bad interception" vs Detroit? You must've forgot the play. You may want to go back and watch the play again. Carr threw it perfectly to Juwan Johnson and it went through his hands. How is that a "bad interception"?
Derek Carr doesn’t throw a catchable ball (anymore)
68.4% completion percentage. 2nd in the league behind Dak Prescott.
@@CaseyWinehouse that's an outright lie man, why do that?
Carr had the worst OC in the league by far and still finished well, one 47 yd missed field goal away from the playoffs.
Had a FEW big missed field goals... thats a problem with have that no one talks about.. I guess he's still a young kicker tho
Derek Carr: just good enough to leave you wanting more. Not good enough to get you on a playoff run but not bad enough to get you picking top 5 to draft someone early
I’d say Carr is like Wendy’s. Consistently decent, not too bad not too good and sometimes their options will surprise you
So basically the perfect 'transition' QB. But also not really since you probably need to a top 5 draft pick to get your franchise QB after him, so in reality, Carr's not good for anything except false hope, disappointment and wasted time
@@TNT_12wrong. The problem with fan (and media) perception is that they think QB's win or lose. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Carr hasn't been more successful in his career bc he's had the worst defenses of any starting QB in the NFL since at least 2000. That's a fact. He keeps getting chances bc teams know that it was the team around him holding him back, not the other way around (like with Simms). Carr plays at an elite level, and then will lose anyway bc the defense gave up 36 points. That's not the QBs fault. That's why it's moronic to look at a teams record to judge a QB.
HOF QB's in their prime couldn't win with comparable defenses. That includes guys like Rodgers and Brees, the latter of whom has almost as many non winning seasons as winning ones. The only time in Carrs career where he had a competent team around him, he went 12-3 as the starter, earned a pro bowl, was just edged out of winning an all pro (which was BS btw), and finished 3rd in MVP voting. Every other team in Carrs career had serious flaws that would have made it either impossible or nearly impossible for that team to make the playoffs. The '14 and '18 Raiders teams were literally the worst in the NFL, made up of more starting practice squad players then the rest of the NFL had COMBINED. Prime Brady would have struggled to win 4 games on those teams. The 2020 Raiders team gave up the most PPG in team history that year. Despite that, they were the 2nd team ever to win 7+ games giving up 30+ PPG. Both teams won 8 games. Was he supposed to make the playoffs then? How? He would have had to throw 50+ TDS just to have a chance (QB's who throw 50+ TDS in a season ALWAYS have elite weapons, a good OL, and either a very good defense giving them plenty of extra possessions, or a defense that gets a ton of turnovers.... giving them plenty of extra possessions. Carr had NONE of that).
So yeah, the misconceptions on Carr are many. If he played for a stable organization that put talent around him, he would be seen as an elite franchise QB. Unfortunately all he's had is terrible teams around him and constant coaching changes bc of said terrible teams (Raiders couldn't draft to save their lives. Literally the worst team at drafting of the last 2 decades. That's a fact btw, and it isn't close). If not for Gruden getting cancelled, Carr would still be with the Raiders, and they would be having plenty of success with Carr right now. Unfortunately he did get cancelled, and then McDumbass was hired, who destroyed the locker room culture and team trying to build it in his image. Was fired mere months after getting rid of Carr, arguably the biggest reason he was canned. And that's why Carr is a saint.
Carr has been my favorite person/player for a long time and I can say this with all honesty:
If you give him a clean pocket/time, he is elite and will carve anyone up. But, if you get to him with constant pressure he becomes average at best. In his defense, the only time in his career where he had a decent O-line he was an MVP candidate.
Most, if not all, QBs are like this. See Pat Mahomes and Tom Brady in their superbowl losses.
He is more dependent on his line than others. Zero pocket feel, he gets destroyed. That's his issue.
From a clean pocket with 3 or 4 seconds, Carr can put the ball anywhere on the field you want. Unfortunately, you can't count on that these days. Top QBs need to be able to make good things happen when plays fall apart. Carr's just not very good at that.
He is tho, as long as he's familiar with the system. That's a luxury he hasn't had very often in his career, esp last season.
Go look up Carr highlights, and you'll see plenty of plays where he's bought time and made amazing throws.
Hell in '21, with the playoffs on the line, he ran up into a collapsing pocket, made a throw in the run while being hit, on a 3rd down, that was an absolute dot that directly lead to the win. If not for that play, Raiders season likely ends right there.
I’d say Carr is like Wendy’s. Consistently decent, not too bad not too good and sometimes their options will surprise you
Chris Simms, I’m calling you out right now, you DID NOT watch all of Carr’s 2023 tape.
Your description of Carr is accurate to the middle of the season when he was playing with a rotator cuff injury & broken ribs.
Had you watched ALL of Carr’s tape, you would have said “how he played the last 6 games of the season is how he should’ve played ALL season and he would be higher on this list”.
You receive a failing grade on this evaluation.
Put in the work next time.
Na this is spot on Carr isn’t tough in the pocket at all and his athletic ability isn’t top tier either.
Dude he always has a stretch like that every year where he plays good for like a 7 game streak then plays like shit the rest of the season
This is sucha corny comment good lord
@@HoopsMegaCentral What data supports this opinion?
It’s fine to watch a game a believe a particular thing and if you’re correct, there will be data that’s supports this.
@@jgs1703 This I believe is a fair criticism of Carr, he can be “streaky”, Matthew Stafford has had this same issue.
That was what was great about Carr’s 2016 play, not his top end play, but his consistency Vs teams he should beat.
Haven’t watched him since he left the raiders but this description perfectly fits his time with the raiders. He’s pretty good if there is no pass rush and has an amazing defense. He too often misses plays and checks it down
The Saints were 9-5 when Carr started and finished games. Winston 0-3.
There once was a quarterback named Carr,
He sure doesn’t set high the QB bar.
Played in one playoff game,
In ten years which is lame.
With Derek at the helm the Saints shan’t go far.
Lmao
He will be better this upcoming season due to having a better OC, and being in a "QB friendly" system
I think Carr is a lot like online games. Like when it seems a ton of people say a game is trash, but millions of people play it and think it's great. They just don't go online and post their opinions.
Hmmmmm I’d say Carr is like Wendy’s. Consistently decent, not too bad not too good and sometimes their options will surprise you
@@szn1580 I was referring to what Simms talked about in the video. About him being polarizing. Are you saying you are an exception? Or just you read an analogy about Carr and wanted to make up an analogy?
And at least half of the people who say a game is bad are those who are bad at playing the game
This evaluations only show that these guys dont really watch games and film, just lazy narratives repeated over and over
As a saints fan who watched every snap, I disagree. He explained Derek Carr to a tee imo
@@justjamie4795or it was confirmation bias. He was way better statistically.
@@ericsipe8619yeah but if you watch every single snap like me he was bad
@@4loco457 except I did and the actual factual data doesn’t back that up. That’s called confirmation bias.
@@4loco457 ikr lmao. Dude was would play well in “garbage” time a bunch of games, but was the main reason we’d be down so much to begin with
Carr doesnt trust his own post snap processing ability and it causes him to rely too much on presnap. He has toughness he just sees certain looks and goes to the checkdown. On 1 play when carr was with the raiders belichick doubled the check down because he knew if car saw a certain coverage against the play that was called he was checking it down immediately regardless if it was 3rd and 15. Its can be absolutely brutal to the points teammates get frustrated
This guy actually watches ball this was a perfect example of Derek carrying last season
Chris Simms saying this makes me value Carr 100x more.
As a saints fan He will be fine this year. He had played through two broken ribs cause our trash asss O line. Also Pete didn’t know what to call last year without Sean Payton. New direction
Chris....i hope they cancel your show....
He had a TERRIBLE O-line that had him running the ENTIRE season. Hurt and out of 3 games! That's ridiculous.. Yeah he had a few problems, but the main one was the O line
Once again Chris simms showing he has no football IQ. Carr leads the nfl in 2 mins comeback wins since his rookie year and top 5 in air yds last year
Should’ve been in the 30’s. He’s gonna retire without a single playoff win as a starter.
Too low. Disappointing rating. All good.
Man. One playoff game in 10 years. And he lost. ‘Nuff said.
He didn't even play in that game.. And, he has been on a trash Raider team for a decade lol.
Carr shows the signs of age and the game speed getting too quick. It's the big reason why teams would want to go young, old dog new tricks.
This comment is incorrect & cannot be backed up by any objective data, as a matter of fact, there’s data that says the exact opposite.
@@TheStacanova lol ok my guy all your comments are able how great carr is and how many excuses he has. Lol sure lets take your opinion, totally not bias 🤣🤣🤣
@@foxfire1112 I probably have bias, which is why I check my Bias with data and typically, the Data matches my Evaluation.
My Data, has Carr as 12th last season, just last season.
Carr isn’t perfect, most people, including Chris Simms, misses his actual flaws for some type of lazy analysis, that just happens to match David Carr’s issues and were part of Derek’s draft evaluation, for that reason.
@@TheStacanova If your data shows that carr is the 12th best QB in the nfl then your data proves why posting stats is a horrible way to rank QBs. Garbage time is carr's specialty, he's made a career out of it. Oh and excuses, but you already have a ton of those for him
@@foxfire1112 Stop with this Bull$hit “Garbage time” nonsense, Carr doesn’t get blown out enough to make it statistically relevant.
“Garbage Time” time stats are invalid, because they come when the Defense is playing prevent and letting the QB complete a lot of passes underneath to keep the clock running.
Carr’s 4th Quarter last season had his smallest number of passing yards of any Quarter, so that obviously wasn’t happening.
The stats I use to create a QB ranking every season to check my own bias are:
Completion %
Interception %
Yards Per Attempt
Passer Rating
QBR
Total TD (passing & QB Rushing)
Total Yards (Passing & QB Rushing)
Total 1st Downs
Fumbles Lost
PFF Grade
I’m trying to accurately evaluate QB play.
I’m not trying to deceive myself or confirm a bias.
Here’s why Simms’ and everyone’s “Carr throws too many Checkdowns” are nonsense.
We have data that tracks this, ADOT or NFL Next Gen Stats “Intended Air Yards” & “Completed Air Yards”.
You would see an inordinate amount of checkdowns reflected there, and here’s how Carr compares to some other high profile QB’s
Will Levis IAY 10.5 CAY 6.7 (Most in NFL)
Josh Allen IAY 8.6 CAY 5.9
Derek Carr IAY 8.0 CAY 5.8
Dak Prescott IAY 7.9 CAY 6.3
Tua IAY 7.8 CAY 6.1
Kirk Cousins IAY 7.2 CAY 6.1
Kyler Murray IAY 7.1 CAY 4.5
Goff CAY 7.0 IAY 5.8
Mahomes IAY 6.6 CAY 4.0
Joe Burrow IAY 6.5 CAY 4.5
It’s really statistically impossible for Carr to be checking down more than Mahomes or Burrow did last season, & I’ll guarantee Simms doesn’t say the same about them as he did Carr.
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