oooh Theo... My recommendation is to put in some of the ugly sticky traps. This worked for my dog when I started to have floor plants but obviously Theo can get about anywhere. I put the sticky traps in to get fungus gnats and after a half dozen times of the dog panicking bc there was a sticky trap stuck to him he decided it is best to not touch mama's plants after all, whether they have the trap or not LOL. Def recommend trying that with the. My dog is a long hair who doesn't shed and it didn't cause him any pain or anything or any sticky residue to pull them out of his hair but they freaked him out enough that plant theft and biting has stopped... When I get a new plant, he does sniff it but he backs up right away and doesn't return to it... I got a pack of the butterfly shaped ones off of amazon last year, it was like 50 or something in the pack but I stuck them in every single plant they fit in and I got a surprising amount of dog and spiders (real spiders not spider mites). Def worth the like 4 dollars!
hey girl i have had the same thing happen to my plants were the roots just go straight to the bottom in the past i have them sitting in a cover pot so an outer pot and i think thay do this because their is moisture in the cover pot and the roots are wanting to find the moisture what u can do is take a bottom and cut the bottom and the side and ise it as kinda like a pot extender to put soil in on the top that way u can take the plant out the pot and put a bit more soil in the bottom 😊🌱💗🌺
my Scindapsus and Epipremnum Pinnatum Albo(also my Monstera Peru) did the same thing after a while. I put my Epipremnum Pinnatum on a moss pole because I wanted it to grow mature leaves and it never produced runners anymore. but I wanted my Scindapsus to trail so whenever it produces runners, I just chop them off and sometimes propagate them as wet sticks.I'm pretty sure it's not due to lack of light because mine is very close to a very bright south facing window. I believe they produce runners just because they want to climb.but after a few times of chopping the runners they finally push out leaves.
my Syngoniums do the same thing. their roots come out of the holes just one month after repotting. no matter how big their pots are, the roots will go to the bottom. most of my Syngoniums now live in vases of water. I put hydroponic fertilizers in their water and their even happier than when they were in soil
My husband got me my first alocasia (bambino) for Mother’s Day and it had 2 corms.. one was tiny with one leaf and the other was bigger with maybe 6-7 leaves. It needed some help, browning leaves. He knows I’m a sucker for rescuing plants lol well when I woke up the entire larger corm had died… I wasn’t too familiar with them but I tossed the bigger one and kept an eye on the smaller one. It now is opening it’s 4th leaf since and not one brown tip!! Yesss! 😅 thanks for sharing your plant imperfections! I get one small issue and I go into panic mode! 😂
A few days ago I cut 30 empty nodes off my 5 foot cebu blue. Happened just a few months ago too. Cutting it last time encouraged really great branching up above which I was very pleased with though! It gets good light, humidity, and warmth. What I discovered by accident is when it got so long that it tangled with another plant it started putting out leaves again. So, maybe it really wants to climb???
Was gonna say the same. My scindapsus is trailing and regularly sends out runners. My epipremnum pinnatum is climbing a plank and never had a runner on any of the vines. I just prune the runners off the scindapsus as prefer the trailing look
This jives with what others are saying. Also I’ve noticed all my small leaf trailing philodendron don’t have this problem but they all also regularly grow back up themselves after they reach a certain length. Maybe I need to encouraging my scindapsus and pinnatum to do the same thing lol
I had a hard time growing syngoniums because I usually underwater all my plants - now I keep Syngoniums moist most of the time and they are happy I haven't had a problem with root rot or roots that circle at the bottom of the pot, maybe the roots are seeking water at the bottom of the pot - that is just a guess. Also regarding the leafless vines I am really lazy in regards to fertilizing my plants they are lucky if they get any fertilizer once a year although I do usually repot them every couple of years and use slow release fertilizer my plants don't grow super fast but I can barely keep up with them as it is. Good luck with the plants problems please keep us updated if you find any solutions Thank You for all the great information you give us.
Regarding the Syngonium, I agree with you about seeking water. I think Drea should try a slightly denser soil that retains water a little longer. I know that aroids generally prefer well-draining soil, but my Syngonium are thirsty all the time and I really cannot miss a watering with them. I also noticed that they are pushing out growth with a ton of air roots on them, probably seeing moisture. This video is timely because I am considering repotting mine into a different soil because of their watering requirements, at least with a few of the most thirsty ones. On a side note, I think Drea is one of the most informative plant UA-camrs I have ever had the pleasure to view. I get so much great information from her, and I am a long-time plant enthusiast with an extensive collection. I hope her membership continues to grow because she has a gold-mine of content to offer, completely boss, in my opinion.
Awe thank you Tina!💚 And I do use my forest floor mix for my syngonium because it retains more moisture than my epiphyte mix, but I honestly think they would also do just fine in my basic mix of just premium potting soil and perlite. I think I might try watering them a little bit sooner between waterings moving forward and see if that helps at all.
My Go Glow died and I think it was because I moved it to a brighter spot and didn’t increase watering. 😢 I’ve spent the past year trying to break free of the oft-repeated advice that if your plant is having problems it is probably due to overwatering.
The problem with the plants in the beginning of your video is that they are climbers, they are shooting runners to look for a surface to climb on , if they can find it they start to grow smaller and smaller leaves and sometimes no leaves at all.
when I got my thai it had I believe 3 leaves with like one fenestration in total, and the pot was HUGE compared to the plant, it is an 8 inch grow pot but it is also about 10 inches tall. The roots could be seen through the holes in the bottom and even felt when I squished around the edge. I turned to google and it said that while the Thai is the same as the large form deliciosa they are very heavy rooters even in comparison. So I decided to not bug the roots since it is growing well and sounded normal for that specific plant. I had honestly expected like the 6 inch grow pots that are not any taller than the 4inch, so I was quite shocked to get such a wide and deep pot and for it to have so many roots. My only complaint is that it came in coir without any amendments, but it is staying very fluffy and airy and since it's growing I am just watering it more like once a month instead of every 5-10 days like my other plants. It seems to enjoy the coir but if I hadn't had a moisture meter to check it I would have root rotted it really fast bc coir never feels dry to my fingers and it never really feels moist either. NORMALLY I would have repotted but it was expensive and came with a 3 month guarantee but that is voided if you repot. Since it's putting out leaves and upsizing I am okay with it at this point since I know a repot would require disturbing the roots since I would be doing it to get rid of the coir or at least to add some perlite!
Some of my syngoniums roots escape thru the bottom as well. If you've seen any of HarliG's collection of Syngoniums, they do the same thing... and I mean massive roots out the bottom of the pot. My guess is they are seeking water, so even a bit of moisture is remaining in the bottom the roots will hunt it out. I use cache pots so I ignore it since it just seems to be a growth pattern and I can't see it, so my solution is "have at'er".
Humm My small leaf adansonii is just doing the same thing. I just cut the leafless vines off and pitched them. I am wondering if it is too much light and the plants are reaching out for some shade?? Also only the vines that had out grown the trellis were doing it. My sill decursiva plant also takes a run. Same for my Raphadorha ?spelling? Pinnata Running away. I just put her onto a moss pole. to see if it helps.
My guess about syngonium is they love water so they try to get all their roots where the most water is, at the bottom. I could be wrong. Edit - I see others think that too 😊
Kaylee Ellen calls vining with no leaves "shooting blanks". She says her scindapsus r especially good @ doing it & she thinks that they may require more feed. She has a channel on You Tube called Kaylee Ellen.
For the syngoniums, I wonder whether putting ventilation holes in the side of the pot, or using a grow bag or orchid pot, would help. My understanding is that one of the advantages of grow bags is that they promote air pruning - the roots hit the edge of the bag, and stop growing when they're in contact with air, which then promotes the growth of new roots from the stem or branching of the roots, instead of the root getting longer and longer and just circling around the bottom. This is why some seedling trays have long slits along the sides, to encourage more even root growth. I have never tried this with indoor plants or syngoniums specifically, so I don't know how they would respond, but just a thought!
Yes I’ve read about that being done with seedlings but the article I read mentioned some cons to using those specific seedling pots long term that kinda put me off the idea. Orchid pots maybe though.
Scindapsus and other vining plants will shoot runners if they are looking for some light or if they are just feeling like aholes. You can chop them or you can leave them and they may fill in leaves.
Kaylee Ellen's video from this week she also used to scindapsus with empty leaf nodes as an example of her pet peeves, and she is growing them in her freakin business shop where the humidity is 80 percent (I donno for sure but she gets shiny fast and says a lot she has to open doors to film bc of the heat), so if she is having that issue with all her grow lights and humidity etc then I can't even begin to troubleshoot it for anyone. I thought it was weird when she said it, now I am like THE BEEEEP?? bc it's happening to you a whole continent away and in what I consider pretty perfect conditions for a home! UGH weirdness
I def think your plants were lacking nutrients. They need a lot more in summer especially in high light. I fertilize weakly weekly and mine don’t do that. Mine are all near southern facing window. Hope this helps. 😊
Sometimes I even give them more if the forecast for the next week is full of sunshiny days. All of the plants mentioned are pretty fast growing too. I find that my faster growing plants are pretty heavy feeders.. :)
I cut runners off of my Scindapsus exotica just this morning. Gave them away to friends. I have 30 different types of Syngoniums and I find the circling at the bottom of the pot normal. I’m not sure there is anything you can do to change it.
If these plants are allowed to grow up as they would in nature this doesn’t happen. And if allowed to grow up the leaves will mature and get bigger, grown as hanging plants doesn’t allow the leaves to ever mature to the size they would be if grown up. Once I put all my climbers on homemade moss poles where those aerial roots can actually grow into the pole they become water roots and establish a whole other root system, this issue went away. When it reaches the end of the pole you can extend the pole, when it reaches the end of the second pole you can take the top portion off without the bottom roots because there’s an established root system in the pole and repot that and let it continue to grow up and mature. The leaves get staggeringly large. It’s a whole other way of growing climbers that allows them to grow as they would in nature.
Great video so informative! Thanks for sharing it with us.
You’re welcome!💚
oooh Theo...
My recommendation is to put in some of the ugly sticky traps. This worked for my dog when I started to have floor plants but obviously Theo can get about anywhere. I put the sticky traps in to get fungus gnats and after a half dozen times of the dog panicking bc there was a sticky trap stuck to him he decided it is best to not touch mama's plants after all, whether they have the trap or not LOL. Def recommend trying that with the. My dog is a long hair who doesn't shed and it didn't cause him any pain or anything or any sticky residue to pull them out of his hair but they freaked him out enough that plant theft and biting has stopped... When I get a new plant, he does sniff it but he backs up right away and doesn't return to it... I got a pack of the butterfly shaped ones off of amazon last year, it was like 50 or something in the pack but I stuck them in every single plant they fit in and I got a surprising amount of dog and spiders (real spiders not spider mites). Def worth the like 4 dollars!
Thank you for sharing
My pleasure!💚
hey girl i have had the same thing happen to my plants were the roots just go straight to the bottom in the past i have them sitting in a cover pot so an outer pot and i think thay do this because their is moisture in the cover pot and the roots are wanting to find the moisture what u can do is take a bottom and cut the bottom and the side and ise it as kinda like a pot extender to put soil in on the top that way u can take the plant out the pot and put a bit more soil in the bottom 😊🌱💗🌺
my Scindapsus and Epipremnum Pinnatum Albo(also my Monstera Peru) did the same thing after a while. I put my Epipremnum Pinnatum on a moss pole because I wanted it to grow mature leaves and it never produced runners anymore. but I wanted my Scindapsus to trail so whenever it produces runners, I just chop them off and sometimes propagate them as wet sticks.I'm pretty sure it's not due to lack of light because mine is very close to a very bright south facing window. I believe they produce runners just because they want to climb.but after a few times of chopping the runners they finally push out leaves.
my Syngoniums do the same thing. their roots come out of the holes just one month after repotting. no matter how big their pots are, the roots will go to the bottom.
most of my Syngoniums now live in vases of water. I put hydroponic fertilizers in their water and their even happier than when they were in soil
My husband got me my first alocasia (bambino) for Mother’s Day and it had 2 corms.. one was tiny with one leaf and the other was bigger with maybe 6-7 leaves. It needed some help, browning leaves. He knows I’m a sucker for rescuing plants lol well when I woke up the entire larger corm had died… I wasn’t too familiar with them but I tossed the bigger one and kept an eye on the smaller one. It now is opening it’s 4th leaf since and not one brown tip!! Yesss! 😅 thanks for sharing your plant imperfections! I get one small issue and I go into panic mode! 😂
A few days ago I cut 30 empty nodes off my 5 foot cebu blue. Happened just a few months ago too. Cutting it last time encouraged really great branching up above which I was very pleased with though! It gets good light, humidity, and warmth. What I discovered by accident is when it got so long that it tangled with another plant it started putting out leaves again. So, maybe it really wants to climb???
Yes, I think you're right! I think also that they're looking for something to hold on to since they're climbers.
Was gonna say the same. My scindapsus is trailing and regularly sends out runners. My epipremnum pinnatum is climbing a plank and never had a runner on any of the vines. I just prune the runners off the scindapsus as prefer the trailing look
This jives with what others are saying. Also I’ve noticed all my small leaf trailing philodendron don’t have this problem but they all also regularly grow back up themselves after they reach a certain length. Maybe I need to encouraging my scindapsus and pinnatum to do the same thing lol
I have my Baltic B.P. on a trellis and it's very happy it's also venistrating. I think that's the way you spell it.
Try that!?
I had a hard time growing syngoniums because I usually underwater all my plants - now I keep Syngoniums moist most of the time and they are happy I haven't had a problem with root rot or roots that circle at the bottom of the pot, maybe the roots are seeking water at the bottom of the pot - that is just a guess. Also regarding the leafless vines I am really lazy in regards to fertilizing my plants they are lucky if they get any fertilizer once a year although I do usually repot them every couple of years and use slow release fertilizer my plants don't grow super fast but I can barely keep up with them as it is. Good luck with the plants problems please keep us updated if you find any solutions Thank You for all the great information you give us.
Regarding the Syngonium, I agree with you about seeking water. I think Drea should try a slightly denser soil that retains water a little longer. I know that aroids generally prefer well-draining soil, but my Syngonium are thirsty all the time and I really cannot miss a watering with them. I also noticed that they are pushing out growth with a ton of air roots on them, probably seeing moisture. This video is timely because I am considering repotting mine into a different soil because of their watering requirements, at least with a few of the most thirsty ones. On a side note, I think Drea is one of the most informative plant UA-camrs I have ever had the pleasure to view. I get so much great information from her, and I am a long-time plant enthusiast with an extensive collection. I hope her membership continues to grow because she has a gold-mine of content to offer, completely boss, in my opinion.
Awe thank you Tina!💚 And I do use my forest floor mix for my syngonium because it retains more moisture than my epiphyte mix, but I honestly think they would also do just fine in my basic mix of just premium potting soil and perlite. I think I might try watering them a little bit sooner between waterings moving forward and see if that helps at all.
My Go Glow died and I think it was because I moved it to a brighter spot and didn’t increase watering. 😢 I’ve spent the past year trying to break free of the oft-repeated advice that if your plant is having problems it is probably due to overwatering.
The problem with the plants in the beginning of your video is that they are climbers, they are shooting runners to look for a surface to climb on , if they can find it they start to grow smaller and smaller leaves and sometimes no leaves at all.
All of my Syngoniums are doing this!
when I got my thai it had I believe 3 leaves with like one fenestration in total, and the pot was HUGE compared to the plant, it is an 8 inch grow pot but it is also about 10 inches tall. The roots could be seen through the holes in the bottom and even felt when I squished around the edge. I turned to google and it said that while the Thai is the same as the large form deliciosa they are very heavy rooters even in comparison. So I decided to not bug the roots since it is growing well and sounded normal for that specific plant. I had honestly expected like the 6 inch grow pots that are not any taller than the 4inch, so I was quite shocked to get such a wide and deep pot and for it to have so many roots. My only complaint is that it came in coir without any amendments, but it is staying very fluffy and airy and since it's growing I am just watering it more like once a month instead of every 5-10 days like my other plants. It seems to enjoy the coir but if I hadn't had a moisture meter to check it I would have root rotted it really fast bc coir never feels dry to my fingers and it never really feels moist either. NORMALLY I would have repotted but it was expensive and came with a 3 month guarantee but that is voided if you repot. Since it's putting out leaves and upsizing I am okay with it at this point since I know a repot would require disturbing the roots since I would be doing it to get rid of the coir or at least to add some perlite!
Some of my syngoniums roots escape thru the bottom as well. If you've seen any of HarliG's collection of Syngoniums, they do the same thing... and I mean massive roots out the bottom of the pot. My guess is they are seeking water, so even a bit of moisture is remaining in the bottom the roots will hunt it out. I use cache pots so I ignore it since it just seems to be a growth pattern and I can't see it, so my solution is "have at'er".
Humm My small leaf adansonii is just doing the same thing. I just cut the leafless vines off and pitched them. I am wondering if it is too much light and the plants are reaching out for some shade?? Also only the vines that had out grown the trellis were doing it. My sill decursiva plant also takes a run. Same for my Raphadorha ?spelling? Pinnata Running away. I just put her onto a moss pole. to see if it helps.
Let me know if it does help💚
I will. Funny several run away issues we are having are with the same plants?? Please update your end of this too.
My guess about syngonium is they love water so they try to get all their roots where the most water is, at the bottom. I could be wrong. Edit - I see others think that too 😊
Yes. I was wondering if she was bottom watering
Kaylee Ellen calls vining with no leaves "shooting blanks". She says her scindapsus r especially good @ doing it & she thinks that they may require more feed.
She has a channel on You Tube called Kaylee Ellen.
For the syngoniums, I wonder whether putting ventilation holes in the side of the pot, or using a grow bag or orchid pot, would help. My understanding is that one of the advantages of grow bags is that they promote air pruning - the roots hit the edge of the bag, and stop growing when they're in contact with air, which then promotes the growth of new roots from the stem or branching of the roots, instead of the root getting longer and longer and just circling around the bottom. This is why some seedling trays have long slits along the sides, to encourage more even root growth. I have never tried this with indoor plants or syngoniums specifically, so I don't know how they would respond, but just a thought!
Yes I’ve read about that being done with seedlings but the article I read mentioned some cons to using those specific seedling pots long term that kinda put me off the idea. Orchid pots maybe though.
Where did you get those cool circular shelving units?
Nebraska Furniture Mart!
Scindapsus and other vining plants will shoot runners if they are looking for some light or if they are just feeling like aholes. You can chop them or you can leave them and they may fill in leaves.
“…or if they’re just feeling like a holes.” 🤣🤣🤣
Kaylee Ellen's video from this week she also used to scindapsus with empty leaf nodes as an example of her pet peeves, and she is growing them in her freakin business shop where the humidity is 80 percent (I donno for sure but she gets shiny fast and says a lot she has to open doors to film bc of the heat), so if she is having that issue with all her grow lights and humidity etc then I can't even begin to troubleshoot it for anyone. I thought it was weird when she said it, now I am like THE BEEEEP?? bc it's happening to you a whole continent away and in what I consider pretty perfect conditions for a home! UGH weirdness
Is very true i have scindapsus black Mamba and scindapsus platinum and snake scale all r doing that leggy even with the grow light
I haven’t watched her latest video yet but funny we’re both complaining about the same thing this week lol
I def think your plants were lacking nutrients. They need a lot more in summer especially in high light. I fertilize weakly weekly and mine don’t do that. Mine are all near southern facing window. Hope this helps. 😊
Sometimes I even give them more if the forecast for the next week is full of sunshiny days. All of the plants mentioned are pretty fast growing too. I find that my faster growing plants are pretty heavy feeders.. :)
I cut runners off of my Scindapsus exotica just this morning. Gave them away to friends. I have 30 different types of Syngoniums and I find the circling at the bottom of the pot normal. I’m not sure there is anything you can do to change it.
Glad to know it’s not just me with the syngonium roots💚
If these plants are allowed to grow up as they would in nature this doesn’t happen. And if allowed to grow up the leaves will mature and get bigger, grown as hanging plants doesn’t allow the leaves to ever mature to the size they would be if grown up. Once I put all my climbers on homemade moss poles where those aerial roots can actually grow into the pole they become water roots and establish a whole other root system, this issue went away. When it reaches the end of the pole you can extend the pole, when it reaches the end of the second pole you can take the top portion off without the bottom roots because there’s an established root system in the pole and repot that and let it continue to grow up and mature. The leaves get staggeringly large. It’s a whole other way of growing climbers that allows them to grow as they would in nature.