20 Things You Missed in Xianzhou Luofu Main Story (Honkai: Star Rail Lore)
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
- An analysis of the Xianzhou Luofu Trailblaze missions. It also includes Kafka, Luocha and a bit of Dan Heng's companion missions. What happened to Tingyun, where is Tingyun now, did Luocha actually did what Jing Yuan accused him of? How did Kafka know what to do with Blade and how does her powers of Spirit Whisper work for hypnosis? Let's try to answer all of these and more. I hope you enjoy the video :D
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0:00 Luocha, Stellaron, Aeons and The Abundance
2:58 Jingliu and Luocha in Shackling Prison
3:48 Who brought the Stellaron and who activated it
7:43 Stellaron Hunter's Plan
8:42 Where is Tingyun
11:14 Jing Yuan and Kafka's secret agreement
12:15 Truth behind Mara struck and Kafka Spirit Whisper
15:05 Ten Lords Commission
15:51 Matrix of Prescience
16:31 Plague Marks and Hexafleet
17:47 Trailblazer and Kafka
18:17 Penacony and Aeon of Harmony
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0:00 Luocha, Stellaron, Aeons and The Abundance
2:58 Jingliu and Luocha in Shackling Prison
3:48 Who brought the Stellaron and who activated it
7:43 Stellaron Hunter's Plan
8:42 Where is Tingyun
11:14 Jing Yuan and Kafka's secret agreement
12:15 Truth behind Mara struck and Kafka Spirit Whisper
15:05 Ten Lords Commission
15:51 Matrix of Prescience
16:31 Plague Marks and Hexafleet
17:47 Trailblazer and Kafka
18:17 Penacony and Aeon of Harmony
sheesh.. love this video... u point out some special things!!!
u earn a sub!!!
Love these long videos!
12 ??
Also wanna mention that it was mentioned in the story that Silver Wolf opened the Jade Gate for us
I noticed something. When the Astral Express crew went to meet Yukong, Tingyun didn't accompany them. In fact, she avoided being present at meetings with officials. If we assume that she was already replaced by Phantylia it makes a lot of sense. Since Yukong has known Tingyun for 30 years it would be easy for an impostor to accidentally blow her cover by acting out of character or say something that contradicts known facts about the real Tingyun.
That's explains actually why Tin was with such arrogant attitude..
I suspected she was switched at that point but phanty avoiding yukong makes sense too
0:44 either her death was staged or Phantilya didn't really use her real body. Coz I doubt Luocha actually had a meeting with the fake tingyun and he even said it on his last dialogue line that it didn't happen or they assumed that the tingyun was fake so they had to cancel it so the one arriving on the ship may also have been fake.
I've heard from somewhere as well that tingyun had met with luocha before our arrival to luofu and the tingyun here said she didn't recognize him or met him.
And another thing, when tingyun said she's too weak to fight in the beginning (could also be lying to not get caught) versus later on, right before her "death", she said "I'm a lot stronger than I look".
So there's a possibility that shes not on the planet at all, got intercepted in space by phantilya or she had to flee so the supposed luofu ambassador arrived last on luofu before the lock down because they had fought, or the real tingyun was swapped with the fake during the quest; but she also didn't really interact with any luofu officials so there's a chance that the tingyun we knew was fake all along.
*OH YEAH* didn't Tingyun got lost trying to guide Fu xuan as well? So it could even be that she wasn't real since the beginning.
There's also a possibility of that because the "connection" was all fked up as if it was intentional to block the real tingyun or anybody from connecting with the luofu spaceship to exposed phantilya or something. Just a guess here since there's a lot of possibilities.
I honestly think that Tingyun was replaced by the time we used Diting for the first time as a trial run before tracking Kafka. There was a part where Diting notified us that he lost the scent of Tingyun in the middle of it, while Welt noted that she used "the wind" to cover up her scent. I think this is where she was switched with Phantylia.
@@kimbap5631 I highly doubt it. This would be the worst place imaginable to kidnap Tingyun - a very lively street full of people. Not to mention the extremely short window of opportunity
About Tingyun replacement
When we first arrived the Loufu, we met the real Tingyun, who talked about Yukong with respect ( when March told her that Yukong might be a bad person, Tingyun immediately defend Yukong).
After Tingyun gave us Diting, she ran away so we could use it to sense her. During that time, Tingyun's clues that were used for Diting to find her became more and more ambiguos and misleading, like those objects aren't belong to Tingyun.
After that, we met the fake Tingyun near a port area and alone. This is when she became sus as she talked down on Yukong (she not when we first met her), had trouble taking us and Fu Xuan to a destined place (she could guild us to meet Yukong but not JY).
But Tingyun was very reluctant to even escort us as soon as we left the meeting with Yukong. It feels to me that she wanted to sneak away about her business from the start
@@Jackie_Tikki_Tavi this, in my opinion, means that she probably still didn't fully trust us because we are outsiders that somehow got into Loufu without permission from anyone while a war still occured inside it.
@@straycat9478 the timber was different. It wasn't mistrust but annoyance
Idk, I think her not being present with the first meeting with Yukong makes me think even that far back she wasn't the real one
But Loucha already had an appointment with Tingyun before we even met her
4:47 The one who opened the gate was Silver Wolf, Yukong mentions that she did her usual taunt before letting the Astral Express members step in the Luofu and Yukong tried to deduct that conclusion as a possible suspicion of being allied with the Stellaron Hunters, before Jing Yuan intervened and saved the crew from being investigated on suspicion further.
Do you guys realize that we haven't gotten a companion mission with Jing Yuan yet 😔 this man is actually full of mystery 😔
and tingyun too 😭 (depending on which direction hoyo is gonna take, we might never have a tingyun companion mission 😔)
Oh right. I literally forgot
HOYO WHEN
EXACTLY and whenever we meet him in game he always disappears the next minnute, HOW CAN I TAKE PHOTOSHOOTS WITH HIM
@@entropyigacha him 😂.
My thinking is he's going to die.
At some point in the story. Which is why you can't get a companion mission for him.
I also think Kafka will die, because after her companion mission....she's not a visitor. Even Silver Wolf can visit, even though she's a wanted criminal...and so can Luocha.
The Mara Struck condition reminds me of Honkai Impact's Fu Hua, and how she needs to regularly dispose of memories to prevent overflow. I wonder if this is Hoyo's way of telling us what would have happened if she didn't do that
Phoenix is equal to the Herscher of sentience power.
Both of them can be revived and both of them are compare on the memories.
The Mara struck conditions sounds similar to Archons’s Erosion
@@sentience3033truee, not only archon but also all long live species. Azdaha for example.
Zhongli also fears about erosion. Its common trope in Hoyo games for long live species to end up in insanity
@@angpham941 & Zhongli is also a dragon who descended to Teyvat . Who knows ….maybe he is also scion of permeanance
All I know is Welt was right to be sus as hell against Luocha. I want a genuine reaction to how Luocha might be involve with the Stellaron and Antimatter legion in some way.
Oh Welt experienced it once i bet he wouldn't fall for the second time XD
In the infinite multitude of universes, surely there must exist an Otto who isn't sus.
We have yet to find one.
Edit: Okay, there's Simp-sama, but he's still at least semi-sus, so that doesn't count.
After everything his counterpart do to Welt, we can't blame Welt
Welt getting some ptsd flashback in Luocha's companion mission had me 😭. Grandpa's been through a lot already, I just hope he doesn't have to go through all of that the second time in this universe
@@PrincessStabbityPLS H2Otto
Worst he did was to crash a political wedding
About Luocha and Jing Liu visit to the shacking prison, I may have a little theory
In both Imbibitor Lunae trailers and quest, is mentioned an item called the “transmutation arcanum”
According to what we know, this item can alter a specie mortality and change the cycle of life (to give Vidyadhara the ability to reproduce)
It’s highly probable, but not confirmed, that Blade was turned into an immortal by DanFeng by using this item
Now, back to JingLiu and Luocha. They want to destroy the Abundance. However, long species of the Xianzhou are carring the curse of mara. So to destroy the mara (aka Abundance), you either need to annihilated the whole population, or you could turn every long life species into mortals. The first plan involving Phantylia and utter destruction failed. So now is plan B. And in order to turn everyone into mortals, maybe the Transmutation Arcanum could be use. If it can give immortality, and ability to reproduce, then why not mortality?
However the Transmutation Arcanum was not hand over by Dan Feng and is missing. There are only 3 places I can think of where the Transmutation Arcanum could be: with Dan Heng (but probability near 0%), hidden inside Blade, and hidden inside the last place DanFeng visited, aka the shacking prison.
Hence why JingLiu is looking for Blade, and why her and Luocha visited the shackling prison
It makes sense, but it is surely totally wrong, so do not take it too seriously pls !!!
That a good theory tbh
isn't transmutation arcanum a ritual. and not an item?
@@ipocrita4825 maybe a ritual involving an object ?
Interesting theory! I think they want to destroy Yaoshi the Abundance and not just the traces of it, however. Mara isn't equivalent to Abundance, and tbh they'd have to destroy every single long-life species in the universe if they wanted to go that route. 👀
With all the lore and hints in-game at the moment, it is very plausible that the Transmutation Arcanum can be used to genetically mutate living creatures (which was also a power Vidyadhara used to have) so that's a good point! Especially considering that from some of the readable collectables we learn that Xianzhou natives do have biological differences from short-life species...
Sorry I know you said not to take it too seriously but I love debating on theories and such! x'D
The only problem I have with this is that
If that item can cure their immortality.. and the people of the xianzhou hate their immortality.. why haven’t they ever used it?
I think either Luocha is an emanator of Yaoshi and is fooling them and is working for the abundance or is planing to become the new abundance or a new aeon that's gonna absorb them. Like he cannot go from "the dead shall resurrect" to "I want to kill yaoshi" and expect us to belive him.
My guess is his plan is to subvert yaoshi (because he believes the abundances perspective to be foolish and in replacing them he will be able to kill the abominations of yaoshi by effectively taking the source of the immortality and redefining it (rather than abundance being a long life span my guess is his perspective is much more vague
My man came from a whole ass universe after his original self went thru some crazy ass universeS-threatening gymnastics to bring his waifu back only to say naw, we literally can not even begin to guess with this man. His plans are always beyond the entire current universe💀
@@liateapot2313true gigachad🗿
One can be the emanator of Yaoshi and still want to kill Yaoshi. If Yaoshi is to believe that its non-existence is better for the entire world, it will also kill itself.
@@liateapot2313 he's really a well written character.
Tingyun’s funeral is just a way to lower our guard, so they can surprise us later on that Tingyun is alive. From what we know, Tingyun is real (so it’s she is not just phantylia this whole time) since she’s someone who travel between worlds, I suspect them she was intercepted by Phantylia. In which she was then switched out. The body phantylia used was mostly likely a fake body which is why is disappeared after phantylia left it. Since if it was normal possession you would’ve expected the body to still stay intact. Hoyoverse would’ve never left opening for this theory if they confirmed that Tingyun is dead.
It's pretty much a given she's being held hostage by the Antimatter Legion. Possibly tortured.
If we ever free her from her prison cell later in the story, I would be very interested to see a corrupted Tingyun wielding Destruction or Anti-Matter Legion powers.
@@PLBiohazard Yehay! 5 star Destruction Tingyun.
@@silverhawkscape2677 she always has been destruction from begining, with 999 taunt value...
@@Synchronizebud Facts
@@Synchronizebud 🤣🤣🤣
I find strange that Luocha says he knows Tingyun yet when you ask her about him she says she hardy knows him. Maybe he met Phantylia and not the original.
Or maybe he met the original and the one we have the dialogues is the fake one. (However i believe it's the one you said)
@@manuelbonelli3690 I like to cope and think we actually get to play as the real one, specially knowing that Luocha is suspicious ASF and that he probably knew about Phantylia's plan
@@alejandronunez5110 I think we don't play with tingyun. If we assume the original is the first one we meet then we know for a fact that she doesn't fight at all. She should be considering as an NPC who doesn't interact in battle while all the other important characters do. So it makes complete sense that the one we play is the fake one since she also follow us in the story. (Of course then it's a gacha so lore characters will most likely be playable no matter what. But it's actually really nice to have this where you can say thatwe don't play with the real her. Another thing to "prove" that is the symbol under her feets during her ultimates, it resembles a lot the flowers Phantylia creates in her boss battles. And lore wise it could be an explanation why she gets attacked so much in the gameplay, Phanttylia is an emanator if the destruction, and in gameplay wise the destruction path likes a lot to be hit...ting in battles really looks like she has an aggro of a destruction character lol)
@@manuelbonelli3690 But it actually does make sense if we were playing as the real tingyun. You say she doesnt fight but its only her basic atk who fights and even then its a decorational fan as her weapon. The voicelines that we have from playable tingyun say things that only the real tingyun would know as Phantylia definitely didnt have enough time to meet some of these people.
I think Loucha and Tingyun knew each other through their job (they're both Traveling Merchants) but it's the fake Tingyun that says he doesn't know Loucha.
kafka said there are 3 ways to kill an Aeon, but the 3rd way is still unknow. So what if the 3rd way was to replace an Aeon on their own path? Since Aeon is Aeon and Path is Path.
Loucha said: *His power was from Abundance, but he was an enemy with Yaoshi* . So what if (again), the thing inside Loucha's coffin was a powerful being that follow the Path of Abundance, but cant ascend to Aeon hood since Abundance already has an Aeon that was Yaoshi.
My theory was based on the fact we never have any information about 2 Aeons that followed a same path can be exist as the same time, or a path can had more than 1 Aeon
And my another theory was, "Path" are concepts, like philosophies, they exist before Aeons and can be cultivated. All beings can learn, practice and "follow" that Path some how. And Aeons are just ahead of the curve, they are number 1 on the Path they followed, while the rest of us are behind, follow their "trail" .
And in every race, there could be only one "number 1", only one can see the horizon while the rest can only see shadow
Mmm... It would be an interesting parallel to HI3's Otto. (Spoilers ahead)
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It wouldn't be the first time an Otto attempted to wrangle a cosmic power to create a "god" who could be controlled by humans, and not the first one to perhaps become a "false god" himself.
Nah, luocha wants TO BE the new aeon of abundance, because that way maybe he could revive his wife (because he is otto from Star rail and he will want to do the same as him)
@@tacasiotacasio644and after he managed to revive his wife(kallen). She will become playable.
@@tacasiotacasio644 luocha isnt otto, its the void archive. 2 seperate beings that only look similar but with different goals
@@TheWeeklySlopYT don't forget that he did the "Otto gesture" in the prison
Luocha 100% had a Stellaron at some point, because in the Express, he guess that we have a Stellaron inside us, and he says that our Stellaron makes him feel different than other Stellarons, like he was more sweet or idk
my favorite part of this whole story quest is when Welt airdrops Luocha a self help book
Now that I noticed, Kafka's Spirit Whisper works very similarly to Aponia's Discipline. Specially when they use it to hipnotize people, with Kafka saying "Listen" before the deploying the order and Aponia saying "Please". I wonder if Kafka's Spirit Whisper has anything to do with Discipline or SWARA.
It's almost work same but aponia discipline took it on higher plane, she basically can whisper to you to become a doctor and you can't deny her wish till you become the doctor or till your body can't contain her power. Also people who under her discipline didn't notice her psychic power at all till they realise they did something wrong according to themselves. As for Swara is different than Kafka whisper due to fact Swara only focus on channeling ki and enhancing someone body along increase their reflex. Also Swara can work as telepathy removal like hua did against sirin by cutting her line with woh
Yep, she was certainly inspired by Aponia on her power.
Hoyo often does this on new chars.
By the way, when we met Fuli, Aeon of Remembrance, in the simulated universe, the Trailblazer seem to vaguely recognize her and called her Kafka. I don't know if that's just Fuli's effects to those who meet her, but it's just uncanny that Fuli's servants in the Garden of Recollection also have abilities to affect memories whether to erase them or to copy them similar to Kafka's spirit whisper. It bothers me too that she did say that she's the Trailblazer's mother in the truth and lie stuff.
My mind just keeps saying that Kafka's Fuli and the MC is her offspring. But I still have doubts about that idea
Check the voice lines business ambassador of Tingyun, she said she keeps a letter if something happens, but if she returns she burns it. We didn't find the letter.
It's my impression luocha is preserving her soul. Phantylia said she stole the body on a whim.
I was under the impression possessing someone on a whim refered to Jing Yuan nearly turning into an antimatter legionary
I understood that the body 'stolen on a whim' was the body created by the Arbor. Taking Tingyun's body wasn't a whim, it was central to her whole plan. Phantylia had planned to watch the chaos as Tingyun from start to finish, but when the MC stopped the spread of Mara by shutting off the elixir cauldrons that plan went sideways. So she improvised, killing off Dan Shu and taking the body that had been promised to her. This wasn't Phantylia's 'true form' or anything, it was a body created by and enhanced with the powers of the abundance. An 'abomination' from the perspective of the Xianzhou natives.
The astral express is about to leave the xianzhou, but the story might go on without them and we might see the events unfold after they have left
I love it! *spoiler ahead*
And it’s not just in XL, in update 1.5 we go back to Belobog. And there’s a new area where they are expanding outside of the walls.
@@bubble_uwu still, hope we dont have to wait a year for penacony
Ok so, i have some evidence as to y penacony is in 1.4,
1. I think we have to meet topaz there
2. Harmony trailblazer kit is already leaked meaning its close to release
3. Jing liu is releasing and xl is continuing the story without us
Penacony is a planet for prisoners right, and it has connections with xipe, this is why i think that we might get penacony A LOT sooner than i expected, i guess they oearnt from gnshin that plauers dont wanna wait a year for the story to progress
@@pappa_panda also, I don’t think it would fit with the story. Teyvat is much smaller than Star Rail’s world. From the very beginning we already knew the exact locations we would be going to (the 7 nations), but since Star Rail is about Astral Exploration, it would be more favorable to the story to have maybe 2 or 3 planets a year with events calling back to previously explored planets.
@@luckystarplays1837 thats what seems to be happening, 1.4 i heard we going back to belobog and 1.5 is the start of penacony, but u didnt hear this from me...
There's an interaction with Luocha on one of his visits to the Astral Express where he can sense the Stellaron inside of the Trailblazer... 👀
Oh, he was talking about our messy Chi. Do you think he realised about the Stellaron...?
Penacony sounds interesting with how it went from a prison planet to the planet of festivities
I wouldn't call it festivities, its mostly mafias from the prison having parties everyday after being free, sound funs enough
Feels like AHA is going to be there tooo not just XIPE
Wouldn't be surprised if Xipe's notion of harmony is creating a hive mind, which conflicts with free will. Our next big adventure could possibly have some elements of the Rick and Morty episode with Unity in it, considering the planet she took over was full of violent rapists, genocidal maniacs.
@@SpinDlsc Technically speaking. A Planet that needs a Hivemind to be united.
@@eiffelmaria3268 Aha seems to be always present wherever the Astral Express go, my theory is that Aha seem convinced that Akivili has returned since the train is moving on again. Dude really misses trolling his bestie.
17:05 a bit unrelated to the whole vid but there are new interesting infos about xianzhou fanghu by a pearlkeeper in alchemy commission, a fanghu vidyadhara tourist in aurum alley, and a vidyadhara egg in scalegorge waterscape.
- fanghu high elder is a female
- unlike loufu where the preceptors seem to be on their high elder's neck all the time, glaciator marum is the one leading the ship
- there's a vidyadhara egg that said he was exiled from his homeland (fanghu) because he urged her to condemn imbibitor lunae's sedition. the egg also mentioned the distance between fanghu and loufu is like one million eons away
After your video about Fontaine Archon Quest and the trial.
I'm definitely watching every missed video you have.
That was such a great catch, and it was obvious too, but I was so focus to Furina that I missed it.
Whatever was in the coffin is probably the Stellaron; that would explain why he didn't have it when the tree started growing again. Or he simply used the one that was already there.
In his LC animation it seemed to me like he has Yaoshi in there.
@@elizabethroa6970 but Yaoshi isn't dead-
Plus, I'm pretty sure the Xianzhou would have *some* sort of way to detect Yaoshi's presence.
And in the end of the arc he also wanted to destroy yaoshi so I dunno bout that
But the Stellaron Burst happened before we got on the Luofu. A lot of people think that he used the coffin to hide Jingliu
@@ex.staticBut Jing Liu came to the Arbor after Loucha. Doesn't make sense for them to appear in that order. I'd say inside that coffin is the real Tingyun. It would explain why Loucha gave up finding her, or that their deal cannot continue anymore. Most likely had her after Phantylia replaced her.
Offtopic for xianzhou Luofo:
In the companion quest for kafka, we technically get to have 2 choices. *we either help her or dont*
If constantly disagree and dont help kafka, she will ask you for the last time if you do refuse and by refusing her for the last time and head to the marked point you instantly finish the companion quest giving you the achievement "true free will".
This means in the future updates of this game, and if its consistent and keeps on doing this. This means there might be a possible choice where we refuse to help Elio completely which also means we will refuse to become the vessel of destruction (said theory that trailblazer is a vessel for destruction). So theoretically if we get to have that option to refuse and be arrogant about it that we decide to NOT help Elio and the Stellaron Hunters, trailblazer themselves are technically *free* to do what they think is right and what they want.
Though the only problem with this is we wouldn't know which one is canon.
It's a 99% probability that the option to refuse of helping kafka is just an alternate ending and not a canon ending at all.
Just like how if you refuse to board the astral express, it gives you a different ending.
But then again you can't replay this companion quest so who knows if that is still canon.
so this achievement is missable?
Elio's script isn't focused on making the Trailblazer a "vessel of Destruction." It's made clear the Stellaron Hunters want the Trailblazer to get "glances" from each of Aeons, like we have already gotten from Nanook and Qliphoth. It looks to me like Elio wants TB to get the recognition of the other Aeons and in the end TB will succeed Akivili as the new Aeon of Trailblaze. It just so happens that we will come into conflict with Nanook during the script, and it's unknown why Elio wants this in the first place.
@@NCGrey90 i think elio wants us to kill Nanook. If their leading us to be favored by the Aeons we grow stronger with each blessing by the Aeon allowing us to gain ranks in the universe
The fact that we have that option also shows to me that Kafka’s spirit whisper has some sort of limit as she said Listen to us at the beginning of the game but we can refuse to help her, meaning that at some point we stop being affected by it
It seems that there will be another new problem in Xianzhou Luofu which will again involve us when we are about to leave for the next planet which is "Penacony"
If it's not Knock-off Otto and Emo Quintette I don't know what is. (i love them both)
which makes sense cuz Caelus / Stelle still don't have a new weapon from that location
Not the luofu but another ship of the alliance probably
Kinda expecting it since we only have half of the location available
I have the same guess
When you play live service games like genshin or HSR, so much stuff like this can fall through the cracks. I love HSR to death but man I wish I could experience all these story beats at once and not across 2 months lol
Oh you are so spot on, I'd love if there was a way to replay cutscenes or even replay main quests (with no rewards so to speak) from archives or something.
@@razr6081 with the QOL updates we've been given, I'm sure itll happen at some point
Not to mention the wall of texts in monologues of NPCs.
@@razr6081really hoping so
@@shiroiron Walls of text>? most of the lore is literally spoonfed to you
Tingyun's death is foreshadowed literally from her Normal Attack name. I could never forgive hoyo for this.
I'm looking into it
What in the name of fuk...
9:23
I also doubt that - assuming "Tingyun" is indeed Phanty all along - Phanty would play a role for 30 years just for this whole plan of planting Stellaron
But thing is... I won't completely deny this possibility
After all, one aspect of sowing discord is to build people's trust
This is so well made, will be sure to keep up with your videos
I predict the next story line would have something to do with free will. A perfect world with no discourse is already a red flag. And. Since Himeko will be joining us, whose to say she wouldn't succumb to "the family", even more so due to her past in honkai impact, or at the very least something similar to that Himeko.
The major issue is that The Xianzhou showed we not always get a new path
We didn't the get hunt here
There's no guarantee we'll get a harmony trailblazer on penacony
(Also if my assumption is correct
That might be Derived from penal colony as it used to be prison planet for the IPC)
@@KudaGeatsune3821 I don't see how that is an issue, I only theorised a possible brainwashed/hypnotised society story line with himeko thrown into the mix, plus not every world needs to have new MC form, heck just because we didnt get a new MC form for the xhianzou increases the chance the MC getting new form for the next world.
kinda reminds me of alhaitham's story quest perhaps like what happened in his quest we might try to break the hive mind by sowing doubts and make them think like individuals
@@KudaGeatsune3821 just my random thoughts... The next trailblazer path would be harmony.. I'm Imagining it would be nice if it has skill arround follow up attacks, since it's just my imagination, maybe with Imaginary element would perfectly fit.. It just my random imagination.. I never dare getting forbidden knowledge from illegal sources, just random imagination😌
@@KudaGeatsune3821spoilers already had a kit for Harmony MC. Even at Imaginary element.
the story is actually crazy good if you piece it together
Very well made video, it was very nice to see everything recapped and get the refresher on everything, along with things side by side. Made it all much clearer, because, this story is pretty intricate. I am excited for the new planet, but I also really hope we get to go back to the Loufou soon and find the answers to all of these questions that yet remain.
I think Tingyun will get a 5-star version someday.
So did Luocha smuggle in Jing Liu in the coffin? Jing Liu was supposed to be dead in the animated Jing Yuan shorts, but she was somehow alive. And Luocha did say that the person in the coffin is an acquaintance, it could be that both of them are just people with the same goal rather than comrades.
She got Mara struck and It's on whole another lvl.
Jing Liu never died. Jing Yuan spared her and sent her to the prison instead. But she escaped.
@@rumanatarafder616 where can I find that piece of lore?
@@Kahez er...i think it was implied in Yanqing's companion quest.
Amazing work as always! I really appreciate all the hard work you put into your videos! I hope I can see another one!
I have so many questions, like what is jingliu's motives? I can't wait for more of xianzhou in the future
Simple as that she wants to kill yaoshi
Maybe Jing Liu's affairs with his Former Disciple Jing Yuan and also his Former Colleague, Blade still haven't ended personally
Probably kills Yaoshi and everyone will be cure from Mara struck.
@@azurial2016 yeah but they seem to want to follow nanook
@@ManiyaVinas i mean nanook is probably one of the strongest aeons in hsr
This is such a well made video, Xianzhou Luofu's story is a mess being spread around everywhere, from notes, to dialogues, cinematics, story, gameplay, videos, but you compiled them all in sequence. Already knew most part of the story and intentions, but watching it in sequence felt so much better and clearer, even then I have missed certain parts such as we are already under Kafka's hypnotize since day one. Listen.
Previously I disliked how Blade immediately stops fighting ILDH, but after re-understanding how mara-struck works once again (Info overloaded when playing the game, details are forgotten), along with Kafka's ability. Basically Blade had no real urge to kill Dan Heng, it was just the trigger for his mara-struck, and once it was locked by Kafka. The hate recedes.
Amazing that you still have all these footage. I wanted to read/watch cutscenes from the beginning again to further understand the stories but there's no replay.
gotta say, I'm very excited for the future. Just one of the Xianzhou ships had so much lore behind it, I wonder what the rest of the fleet has in store. Because Herta's Space Station and Jarilo-VI only serves as our intro to the game, the Trailblazers, and their role in the galaxy, getting to see the intrigue, politics, and past of other larger factions reveals a wider galaxy that awaits us. It gives me so much hype to know that it may not be the last time we see the Xianzhou Luofu, Tingyun, or the Stellaron Hunters.
The Xianzhou Natives:
"Oh no! Mara struck! Help!"
Fu Hua and Kebin:
"Amateurs"
Hua might be find a way to cure but Kevin you can see the result based on his faced😐
About the IPC, there was a few months ago, two new IPC characters presented in community post of HSR youtube channel.
you know i really waiting for this theory from you, thank you for the amazing explanation as usual :)
The character line also weird, luocha knew tingyun but on tingyun voice line she claim she doesn't know him, based on voice lines our playable tingyun is the real one because she describe others character really vividly. It's scary to imagine that phantalya has mind hijack tingyun in some occasion and the host not remember anything about it just like a parasite.
I think when it comes to motive, it makes more sense to assume Luocha and Jingliu as a party who just wants to destroy the Aeon, in general.
That should include Destruction, of course, but why make wars when you can make use of your enemies?
It's because of how Jingliu words it: "A game of chess between gods" and "picking the right side" but they certainly don't look like someone who has take sides with Destruction (hence it wouldn't make sense for them to help us or the Xianzhou).
my reaction when I see the thumbnail: HUH????? Luocha with who? WHO????
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New drinking game: take a shot every time Kafka says "listen"
I'm guessing the chapter before fighting Nanook will be regarding IX and the Doctors of Chaos
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I also wanna add that *stress* can accelerate mara-struck condition - several ppl at the beginning of Xianzhou's story assumes that the reason Cloud Knights get stricken with mara quicker is that their job must've been very stressful
What Fu Xuan said is simply that the longer you live, the more likely you're addled with stress and emotional instability - and thus you begin getting mara-stricken
On the other hand... the Elixir Seeker trailers imply that the mara-struck condition was due to Yaoshi's blessing, that they eventually became monsters... but I doubt Foxians' lives had anything to do with Yaoshi, while the Vidyadhara was blessed by Long, yet Fu Xuan also includes them in the list of "long life species susceptible to mara"
So maybe, the "emotional numbness and stress" is something that happens to all long-life species, but the "becoming monsters" part is unique to Yaoshi's blessing?
Vidhyadhara cant get mara can they ? i swear somewhere they cant
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Yeah bc they can molt and rebirth themselves
thank you so much for this video!
Also something that has been bothering my mind is that
Jingliu
Blade
DanHeng Imbibitor Lunae
They are all follows the Path of Destructions.
Jing yuan:Nooooooo..... I wasn't invited.Just because I'm not destructions
FINALLY!!! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED!!!
And they're indeed self destruct one way or another lol
i think it just aligns with their motives as character designs but i wouldnt pay much mind to it. dan heng doesnt follow the hunt nor does march follow preservation yet thats their class. more so, clara is as far as you can get from destruction
Read someone mention that the playable characters' paths aren't entirely canon. Also agreeing with the comment above mine ^^
I think I'm going to have two watch this at least two more times to understand the full video
great vid but a lot of theories that leave way more questions than answers.
GOD I CANNOT WAIT TILL PEOPLE SEE THE FAMILY'S LORE...
do you know smthg ?
@@jaferussadiqkhergoonwala6500 Picture them as a cult
@@jaferussadiqkhergoonwala6500 based on info from the Databank and Simulated Universe, The Family appear to act like a hive mind.
There's no infighting, everyone thinks the same. Everyone acts the same. And those that don't mysteriously disappear with no recollection from The Family.
@@patrickcarter2829yes they are like borg from star trek
@@patrickcarter2829like propagation?
Luocha such a great charactere, weather as Otto or now Luocha he always play the complexity mastermind characters which is really cool to me even if he bad or not
12:50 When talk about about Mara-Struck, The symptoms are pretty similar to the concept of Erosion in genshin. Both occur when you live long or Immortal, have something to do with memories, and also can lead to madness and change of personality.
I hope that Tingyung is alive somewhere or in that coffin of Luocha... Maybe Luocha found her dead and left coffin? Because later Luocha did not carried his coffin so maybe he wants revenge?
Whatever who is in the coffin is unknown in luocha story, someone tell him to keep his promise and deliver the coffin to xianzhou, he claim that know the person in the coffin, that person was dead befores reaching laofu SO i don't think is tingyun
Saw comments pointing out that we havent gotten a path nor weapon despite completing the Xianzhou story quest... wonder if we'll somehow get dragged into Jingliu's and Luocha's "annihilation" of the Abundance, and then gain the path of Abundance ourselves like we gained the path of Preservation on Jarilo-VI. Healer TB let's goooooo
Awesome video!
Thank you for the great content!
the pacing in this length of the game was so off, I missed all this.... thanks this is a great video, it puts everything together nicely.
On the topic of tingyun’ whereabout, what about the character in natasha’s light cone? It seems like she is healing somebody that really looks like tingyun. Maybe somewhere later in the updates we would help rescuing tingyun and bring her to natasha?
Very interesting video. I believe that the Stellaron is also the Seed mentioned in the Undestroyed Letter correspondence between Guochen and Dan Shu. Specifically, it says:
"To this end, I have met with the messenger. She has agreed to provide me with what I desire. Once the Seed is found, she will send someone to deliver it to the Xianzhou. I am not sure how she plans to accomplish this, but it was a condition of our agreement, so I shall wait and see."
The entire document seems to be talking about their research using arbor branch samples that we know have been smuggled out by the Vidyadhara preceptors and sent to the Alchemy Commission. This is where they also claim to have unintentionally and miraculously made the Bloomborn Scion who is, imo, very clearly Bailu.
As you know, Dan Shu is head of the Disciples of Sanctus Medicus and was head of the Alchemy Commission until recently. Jing Yuan has been investigating them for some time and is suspicious of their activities - this could also be the real reason he visits Bailu every year, too. I believe Jingliu and Dan Shu made agreements to smuggle the stellaron into the Arbor, potentially even using Vidyadhara preceptors to get through the scalegorge.
I hope this information helps you piece things together :)
So many cool details I didn’t know about. Thank you for making the video. There is this one point I’m confused about. 10:54 “for some year” How could that be possible given that when the Express crew first met Tingyun, she is-like it said at 9:59-the real Tingyun. The timeframe between when they first met Tingyun and the time when the foxian got swap is what confusing me.
Bruh you remember all of that! Nice content! 👍
i think Penecony is going to be interesting cause from what weve seen so far about the Aeons they arnt characterized in the normal "healing is good, destruction is bad" kinda way, its more too much of one thing can cause just as much destruction and anquish then not enough. so if we are taking that into the context of Penecony, too much harmony, can lead to a lack of choice, agression to those who threaten the whole even if its in a minor way, and the near absense of negative emotions, which are really important for the brain to function. more then likely the IPC are going to try to create some sort of trade deal or port on Penecony and while they do that more then likely we are going to discover a quiet rebellion, people who hold debates and read galactic news, people who want the freedom to choose what they want to do with their life even if they have to deal with the hardships that come with it. kinda the flip side of what we did on the Loufu
Luocha has a voice line (when he visits the express) that goes smth like: feel the power of stellaron inside you. He says that it was just his intuition. Very sus if you ask me
01:05 - aren't the one who "activated" the Stellaron Sanctus Medicus and not Luocha/Jingliu?
Meaning, while Medicus and the Legion where working together, they had different objectives!
Been a while since reading that part, but it definitely left the impression that Sanctus Medicus had had possession of the stellaron for quite some time but had continuously failed to activate it until a third party (presumably the antimatter legion) got involved.
Agree, this part make me confus. Who deliver Stellaron and who activate Stellaron. I mean Arbor is in Scalegorgewaterscape. How can someone just go inside it when Jing Yuan need Dan Heng to open it.
19:15 I was wondering why Topaz is coming out, so I guess that answers my question! Although, I sort of assumed we wouldn't be going yet because of Jingliu and Luocha. I wonder if that storyline will be continued in a companion quest so we can move on to Penacony or if it will be pushed to later.
So if the ipc was invited does that mean we could meet topaz there. And i want to see the masked fools involvement in something i kinda thought it was hinted with sampo at the end of belobog and also in that bomb mission in the xianzhou
Xipe is legit horrifying. Connecting your thoughts and emotions with billions of people, understand them and they understand you. But in the end, will you still be you?
It's borg from star trek. Assimilation
They're like the opposite of free will
You know what would be really funny? What if our Luocha is really Otto Apocalypse and his hatred for the Abundance is that he was awakened by the Aeon from his well deserved rest for his actions in Honkai Impact.
Lol, that would be the worse karmic reprisal on the Aeon of Abundance, thinking that they'd get a powerful agent working for them but instead awakened a foe they shouldn't cross. 😂
Otto apocalypse died in Hi3, voids archive is the one who Cross the black hole with welt, he was in the express For some time with welt and Himeko but he left before dang heng join to the express
Luckily we have Welt if that is the case lol
I mean this also makes sense because I think you see him in Welts splash art in the background, and the Welt in game is from HI3 if I recall correctly so it stands to reason that Luocha could be Otto
Penacony...
Such a mysterious and breathtaking destination
Yo tengo una teoria (tocada con pinzas) de donde puede estar Tingyun: ya ven que tenia un compañero y amigo con el cual tenia una especie de juego de intercambio de regalos "diferentes", no les parecio raro que de la nada su regalo preparado de Tingyun para el este en forma de zorro? Eso mas la informacion de que lo mas probable es que ella fuese remplazada desde hace unos cuantos años antes de nuestra llegada, pues nos da a entender que haya una posibilidad de que esa figura (no recuerdo que era) sea la verdadera Tingyun o este atrapada dentro, ademas de que durante la mision, el amigo (no recuerdo el nombre) dijo que la cuidaria. Si no creo que lo mas probable sea fuese haya sido cuando se le investigaba al Luocha, pues entre esas partes a partir de cierto punto ya no contaba con el ataud que siempre llevaba. O pues si, simplemente esta muert@
Please do a video in the whole lore about the high cloud quintet accident
From my stand point, Tingyun that we met at the start is real and yet to be replaced until we recieve Ditting. There're some missing link in the story for now. I believe in the fact that we did know Tingyun but only for a brife time.
Another point to make is the present of Aha the Elation, the bomb that Sampo send to us and the laugh that occur during Phantylia fight (turn of music and idle for a while). This suggest there're rooms for many plots to come. In some way I dont want to accept Tingyun death just yet... we'll see how Mihoyo unveil the secret someday
I wonder if Genshin's 'erosion' is but another term to describe being 'mara-struck'. Also since there is a Honkaiverse, the Aeon Long is stated to have Long Scions spread across different worlds, so maybe Teyvat maybe one of them? (This is on the basis that each planet is a 'leaf' of the imaginary tree, rather than each 'leaf' being a separate 'universe', a bit confusing cuz of translation errors)
The Mara struck conditions sounds similar to Archons’s Erosion
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Notice that there's only 5 Vidyadhara High Elders, so the 6th Xianzhou ship may not have one
IIRC Yukong said that said 6th ship being "mysterious" is normal
17:47 odd how tingyun is upset that they weren't marastruck, as if she knew how to control people with it.
Remember that one guy named Ast Rickley? Will we finally meet the man and watch him sing?
Luocha's casket. Real Tingyun inside, frozen-like state. Or could be a minigun.
In jarilo VI a mother got corrupted, next is in loufu disguised daughter and next must be....
At 4:57 it was the stellaron hunter who open the gate since they found traces of hacking
Another quality video from the Feline with Azure Headwear.
I laughed so much when we see Luocha and hear JY's words about him at the end of the quest like, 'is it really you behind the scenes all along AND AGAIN?' LMFAO... Kinda felt bad for Welt considering he gives Luocha a freaking 'people isn't born evil' book..... yeah about that
Just to remind you, we never met Tingyun. Everytime is Phantylia who be as Tingyun to make the stellaron pass to XianZhou and use the follower of abundance as the suspect so that we think it causes by abundance but if luocha carrying stellaron then how he can pass when guard check hin out
We can say real one is already ded but her making farewell gifts for us are huge sus lol.
Remember on Loucha's trailer the roots that is creeping out of the coffin? It's the same as the roots that Phantilia's flowers to use when attacking. My theory is Luocha's objective to meeting Tingyun is to posses her with Phantilia.
4:32
Do you know how the Astral Express crew could go inside in the first place? How did the gate open? Who opened it?
And the way Tingyun said her starskiff was the last to enter doesn't mean anything on its own if we don't know *when* exactly that happened before our crew's arrival - could it be before 45 system hours ago?
And don't you think the earlier Stellaron burst was sus to begin with? I don't think it was just an excuse/pretense for Kafka to make us come there
Silver Wolf graffiti-tagged the Jade Gate's system (Yukong had the report on this when we first met her) and she and Sam were apparently ready and waiting to (metaphorically) smash a hole to let Kafka and Blade escape the Luofu if the script went wrong.
There's a limit to how much the Stellaron Hunters can exploit foresight; while they might be able to do some more on their way out (I'm still waiting to see if the Matrix of Prescience survives, because so far Elio's operating style seems to focus on information denial - the problem being that the timing for their best shot at it has expired) I'm willing to believe they couldn't get much more value out of knowing exactly when somebody else would activate the Stellaron than they did get. From their perspective it really was primarily about getting us there.
8:22 Since Kafka says "That Stellaron" has nothing to do with the Stellaron Hunters, and there was a burst before Luocha or Tingyun/Phantylia were in their planned positions, there could be another Stellaron on the Luofu.
No clue why itd be there or who would put it there, but the language used and time frame line up for it
If we consider what happened to otto. I suppose he could be against the abundance (while being it himself) might be from the fact that he can’t/the aeon refused to bring someone back to life therefore making him hate the abundance
One thing I'm curious about is the history behind the Hsr Abyss Flower.
A lot of people may forget about it because in the game we have lightcones as "weapons"
I don't believe they just gave Luocha that sword/rapier? Purely for aesthetics.
in Hi3 the Abyss Flower is a powerful weapon made from the core of the PE herrscher of death. it is not something we can just gloss over.
And there was an incident as well with the abyss flower that caused Einstein and Tesla to stop aging. Sounds familiar?
Kafka: I taught you Common Sense.
Trailblazer in the event: Barl for me like a dog. 😊
18:01
Not to say you're wrong, but the *very beginning of the story* has her using her Spirit Whisper on the Trailblazer
Now I actually have a huge question here- will the MC ever get the path of the hunt? Perhaps we will get it in future Xianzhou quests? And another question lies here- if we *do* get it, will it be before harmony or after harmony?
I guess it might be before yet we didnt finished companion missions which we get on fu xian banner remember.
@@mirage6335 Yeah might be
Can you cover the story behind the book of revealing, the institute of natural philosophy, narciszenkreuz ordo, Jakob, mary-ann, Seymour and ann from Fontaine?
2:37
I do recall that those who have walked a certain path of an Aeon can still exist, even if that Aeon is dead.
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I know the 10 Lords is an "unofficial" commission, but then what would the 6 be?
Sky Faring, Realm Keeping, Alchemy, Divination, Artisanship... what's the last one if 10 Lords isn't in this?
It's also worth noting that in Luocha and Tingyun's voicelines, the former knew of Tingyun but she didn't know of him
Gosh I’m so glad I’m playing HSR since the start though the lore is so complicated I don’t understand it fully 😅
I have a theory that Luocha is working with Aha as well as Sampo. This would explain Aha's laugh in Phantylia's boss fight. Maybe even the real Tingyun is involved, it could explain Luocha's line about her.
I'm probably overthinking it, but it's a possibility.
Tbh watching this video made me think about something in Genshin. It's quite possible that genshin is in the same universe as HSR. I wonder if what Zhongli describes as an erosion would be a "mara".
Which means stellaron will be in exalting sanctum.
However as kafka before said future is impossible to avoid.
And unfortunally she were at the same time in companion mission coinsidance?
8:27
17:55 ofcourse she knows it.
1 Blade/Hunters was in Luofu for a stakeout mission (for the stellaron or Luocha group)
2 Stellaron broke (by Antimatter Legion, Sanctus Medicus, or Luocha group)
3 Jing Yuan actually know of the Hunter's prescence from the start, so he caught Blade so fast. he used him to bait Kafka call for the Nameless
4 Nameless meets Hunters and Jing Yuan, Hunters retreated
5 Nameless (IL) solves the Arbor problem
Luocha group, Legion, still unknown plots