Why There’s No Need to Relive the Trauma All Over Again
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- A long-established approach to helping people through traumatic experiences is to get the victims to 'relive' their trauma by 'talking it through', or even by hypnotically reliving it as it happened. Getting people to 'relive' their trauma is NOT therapy, and if this approach could heal PTSD then the first real flashback would do the trick.
So in this video I'll explain what's wrong with this (everything!), the approaches to treating post traumatic stress disorder that can make the trauma worse, and what approach to take instead.
Key points in the video include:
0:00 Introduction
4:00 - why the long-standing approach of 'reliving' a traumatic experience can make the trauma worse
7:07 - how your memories are made
7:55 - memories that won't fade for PTSD sufferers
10:00 - examples of effective trauma treatment (and their drawbacks)
13:02 - why I think all therapists need to know how to use the Rewind Technique
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That poor woman. My heart is broken. I pray she truely heals.
I have ptsd talking is the worst thing for it
Just come home from seeing one of my clients again and she looks really fine and was smiling. The rewind changed everything for her. ❤
Good advice. I've been to several therapists who seemed to be more interested in hearing my gory stories, than in helping guide my mind to fixing itself.
Jeff Hohreiter: How did you deal with those therapists as you realized what they were doing instead of helping? Did you call them out, get angry ? Did you pay or not? I stopped paying if they did not what we had agreed upon on the phone and if they gave nothing to help. I have looked for help 38 years and am rather angry at them for losing all this time and energy. I'll have to process the anger resentment and get rid of it, just am stuck in burnout, so no real energy to process properly, and need help to get in touch with my feelings. How are you doing now?
I am so sorry...Wishing and praying that you find healing from a competent therapist...
Pick me
Physiatrist is a sacred profession, I meant no offense to physiatrists, but bad physiatrists just want to collect your story into their database instead of mending your memory!! When I knew that I feel like, even more depressed 😦 It’s so expensive to get a treatment here and I feel like they fooled me, or they are just not experienced enough to help me
Therapists don’t want their customers to improve, because they see them as walking ATMs. They usually just use the reflecting technique where they parrot back to you what you just said. I will never see a therapist again, I get more useful info from UA-cam.
I am so grateful that I found your channel. Being a young therapist myself I feel like I have so much to learn. I think I have learned more useful staff from 2 hours watching your videos than in my hole clinical psychology master in university :D Your channel is incredibly useful, i am actually wondering if you offer any type of online training for therapists ? Would be happy to learn more from you.
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I feel the same and I too love and work in the field!!!! So much to learn!
Me too!
Thank you for helping wounded souls out there. I am a physician and a lot of patients who need help but can’t get it. Therapy is a luxury for some people for so many reasons am here to learn how I can at least not to harm my patients.
Thank you guys for all you do. Thank you for taking the time learn even more about your profession
Да. Он предлагает целую программу для терапевтов.
Thank you for producing these videos. There is a mental health crisis currently and lower income folks in particular can have a difficult time accessing a therapist. These videos help immensely to fill the gap. You have helped me.
ptsd is truly a neurological thing. Im very logical and can talk myself through fear but it doesn't help.
Its written in our cells.
I clicked on this video after just learning how to overcome my issues that I could put into practice myself, at home. I have been suffering from PTSD since my fiance passed away beside me four years ago. After listening to your video I understand why I haven't been able to process his death and move forward. I am grateful for the knowledge you shares here. I wish there was help like you offer where I live, but there isn't.
"Memory of a traumatic event is encoded in the amygdala itself rather than processed by hippocampus and so it can not be turned into a normal narrative of a past event".
Sir, it's an excellent explanation. Today I came to understand the true nature of PTSD.
I further wanted to ask is this the comparable concept to cognitive knots, which is discussed by some researchers related to explanation of PTSD?
How to procced that as past. Please help
What does ptsd feel like
My brain feels stuck
I took your training in the Rewind Technique a few years back and have seen it really be a game changer for a number of clients in my hypnosis practice since then. I highly recommend this training to any helping professional.
4:51 sets the tone and the truth of this whole video...having a person recount their trauma in a state of high emotions only sets them back. The person needs to be worked up to a state of calm to tell the experience when they able to. The theory that a person must always be able to talk about or express their experience to relieve themselves of the fear is just not true. It is better to just keep telling others that you don't want to talk about it or can't talk about it especially if if seems to make you emotional each time. No matter how much they may insist or speak of you as a coward or too weak to face your demons, those are the people to cut off until they learn to respect your timing and your trauma. As for the victim in this story with her uncle rapist, she did too well to even show him kindness even at his fragile age of 80 even if she was in a better place. I certainly would have kept it to his face and to others even if he never apologized. Painful story but good advice video on PTSD.
This sounds so useful, thank you for posting it. I saw a psychiatrist for many years who had me revisit traumatic scenarios over and over (what I refer to now as trauma reminiscing) and it wasn't helpful, very activating and highly dissociative.
That explains everything ! I had a traumatic experience before 10 months i was good at a time and i decided to open up about it to my cousin ! After we talk initially i felt good but after a while its like my brain remembered everything and brought along feelings,emotions and the memories of the event ill not do it again !
The REWIND technique is really great when treating PTSD. Also understanding the memory storage process in our brain. You're an amazing professional and human being. Thanks so much for sharing this knowledge of yours, I'll use it to help myself and as many people as I'm abled. Be Kind... Rewind.
Cheers Mark, great vid
Hello...can you do a video concerning Guilt (guilt sensation even when not guilty), I went through your playlist but didn't see anything. thank you again for your precious help.
Good talk. Thank you for posting.
“Talking things through” and going into great detail can have many hidden re-traumatizing pitfalls. For one thing, it exposes a person to be seen through a certain lens by another (the therapist or therapy group members) and judged or imagining being judged. And we do it to ourselves and live in fear of that.
So wonderful, clear and conscise.
I absolutely love the results you get with this rewind technique Mark.
I found narrative therapy in a relaxed body to be very effective for my ptsd
A really useful video-thank you Mark!
Thank you, awesome video
Thank you for an informative, easy to understand technique that anyone can use to really help people or themselves. I find your approach to therapy to be very refreshing.
Thank you, Mark, for these excellent presentations about Rewind Techniques in dealing with clients that have gone through Trauma. I will use it in my therapy practice. Thanks, Donato.
I found several articles dictating your exact monologue shown here ~ great content! thank you
Thank you for posting this. I cried as the video was ending and felt relief at the knowledge that I could get help for my PTSD without exposure therapy. My doctor recommended I go get that exposure therapy and I found I couldn't bring myself to make the call. It occurred to me that I've already talked about and gone over much of those events over and over again, but still feel intense fear, anxiety, and stress every day for years. I know much of what I do on a day to day basis is all done to avoid reliving the trauma and I'm not even sure what, in all of the horrible crap that was happening to me, what I would've told the therapist anyway. I suppose now, after watching this, it's something I can't clearly remember.
Outstanding video thank you so much for the detailed information :-)
Excellent video. It is very important to find the right therapist.
I guess the beatings and rapes were even worse for June than witnessing her father kill her mother.
I am surprised that June was able to enter into new relationships. In spite of her PTSD, she was still able to function.
Thank You
well done.
Just fascinating. Not to mention super-helpful :)
It's very important to remember a traumatic event, one would not want to repeat or create a traumatic event, but many do, despite not remembering a traumatic event, for example look at how many children are abused by their own parents, and often these so called parents have been abused by their parents, so it's very important to remember a traumatic event. Often victims and offenders have no conscious memory, making them a danger to others and them selves. Sure it's unpleasant stuff, much easier to work on a lightning quick no effing about phobia cure , and very rewarding, these things work, a competent hypnotist can do this in less than a hour.
Amazing, thanks
Namaste Mark Thank You I totally agree with you we are all "programmed" from parents grandparents ancestors from birth & then our own traumas and usually not aware of who we really are You do wonderful work Thank You for your time and free videos and info You are a Gift to the world Bless You May all of life come to you & yours with ease & grace & Joy & Glory
That’s amazing.
I am not sure that the fact this technique works for some people means we need to abandon other ones. I can see a lot of potentiol issues with it such as if there is a dissosiative dissorder in the backround the entrie thing could devolve into chaos very quickly.
This information has given me so much hope. Thank you. I can relate to June's situation, as I'm still haunted by a very similar situation. However, both my psychiatrist and psychotherapist have diagnosed PTSD (complex) and recurrent depression, so I'm wondering if the rewind technique is also possible for CPTSD, and, if so, where I could find an expert to deliver this in the UK. So far my psychiatrist has just been pushing antidepressants and sleeping tablets on me, and my psychotherapist uses psychodynamic "therapy" and just waits for me to talk. I don't feel like I've actually had any therapy.
Could you please go into more detail about the rewind technique. It seems to me that you talked more around it that described it. Thank you.
Barbara did you ever get an answer?
@@lisaholder5756 I'm noticing he never responses to any questions unfortunately. Hopefully you and Barbara L. Adams will get some clarification.
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Hi im a Solution Focused Hypnotherapist and I use the Rewind technique for my clients with a specific phobia or PTSD. Its a technique that has to be thought as there is a lot to it so I don't think he could just describe it on here.
What if you have trauma that you don't remember just a terrifying feeling? It's debilitating.
I cut contact with my abusive narcissist mother a year ago after 36 years of pain.. I survived all those years by burying my my emotions and thought my life was normal. But these past few months have been a nightmare of ptsd emotional flashbacks which are crippling my daily life. I do not have access to a therapist now.. Is there a self help program of this method? Please?
Hi, please give me an update on your situation.
I can help. Don't want anything in return.
@@Swashbuckler9x I'm doing much better. Thankyou.
@@BlackhawkU9 don't be rude to the truth
@@susaville what treatment did you do? So glad you're feeling better.
@@mudskippa8958 I did not do any "treatment", exactly.. But Jesus helped me. I'm so thankful. I prayed whenever I struggled and I had to consciously tell myself I forgive my mom whenever those thoughts troubled me. It has been rough, but my husband and kids have been really supportive as well. I feel so much better and I think I've healed so much. Thanks for the comment.
11:22 Swing of an object with both eyes the same as EMDR? Since it mimics the dream (thadea wave brain) state of the eye movement. This may be why the brain is so willing to go into a hypnotic/dream state...
Ho my God. Yes, that is correct. Great fan of you
emdr saved me
Does it healed you?
Thank u for the video ..what are your thoughts on emdr ..?
Awesome
I tried EMDR with 2 different professionals and got very, very ill after a session. Tried Hypnosis, RTT and spent 20 days in hospital. Havening gave me problems as well after 5 sessions. Before all that I tried many different therapeutic approaches. Nothing works, I am losing hope. Now I am trying Somatic (Peter Levine) and it's my last resource. I am so, so tired.
Praying for your recovery. You are so needed in this world and I hope you know you are so very strong. Even though I dont know you, I'm immensely proud of you. God bless
Hi, I’ve also done everything I’m 10 years and nothing works...
I was recommended to go into Residential Trauma Treatment for 6/8 months...yet it’s Private Pay and cant afford..
Forgot NHS, their outdated approach retraumatized me.
Please let me know if U found help that worked as I’m getting so physically sick from CPTSD symptoms going untreated for 20 years...
Prayers 4U
Diane
Are you any better?
Somatic is supposed to be clinically effective
I have been doing trauma release work for a long time and what he is saying doesn't work for all people because he dismisses emotions. If you need anything let me know.
Stephen Parkhill had cancer and many other diseases healed with reliving and releasing trapped emotions. Flashbacks are not reliving, it is a trigger and creates flashes and pieces. I respect your knowledge, but we have had many positive results with releasings feelings from traumatic memories. With your methods, the emotions could stay stuck in the body and that is usually what causes great health conditions. Feeling and releasing trapped emotions from past trauma is extremely important. You guys have so much knowledge and information but always want to dismiss emotions. I get it, you don't want to get your hands dirty, but feelings store in the cells and organs, so just because you are tying to re categorize the event does not mean the feelings leave.
OMG this is so scary; sorry I posted earlier. Thank you, Mark!
Hi Uncommon, I found that by getting rid of a few people by detaching from them the thoughts interwined and conncected left with them and the trauma left. They were both so called mental health practioners and they both hurt me. My fear , scare and anxiety leaves when I do this
That is worse. Or maybe my problems bother me because they have been berated and I don’t understand what is wrong with me. I do mention PTSD, but I keep getting told that I am loved and I am fine. Lately, I have been getting dreams about being screamed at. My problems are considered delusional. This makes me angry. I have more trouble sleeping now. My eating is worse. I am
ashamed of myself. I need to get out of my anxiety, but I am older and it might be too late. That maybe it is hard to believe because I kept it to myself. I have been to asked to tell what happened. It came out with me to be diagnosed with bipolar disorder and highly conceited. I just did not want to talk. My doctor thought that I felt great about myself when I was really feeling horrible about myself. There may be no way out.
It is so bad that I fear being called liar, but the memory is vivid. No one followed me around with a camera all of my life or spied on me. I don’t believe in mind reading and telepathy.
How do you help the client to relax? How do you direct her to review the trauma in reverse?
The problem is the system of mental health is broken, the schooling is awful, the pay is awful and don’t even mention the governing bodies they are as bad as anything. How can we expect as a society to get quality mental health professionals when the process is broken.
I'm a practicing licensed psychotherapist in the US and I would absolutely love to earn some CEUs by getting training in the Rewind Technique. I'm going to seek out some certified training here in the US...unless you happen to be approved for CEUs here in the states?! *fingers crossed* :)
wait you are in the uk. can you please push this information on to other medical providers because here in oxfordshire all mmy past drs just ask questions the same things over and over. and when i asked why i had to go over it again and said that going over it all the time was making made everything more intense, they told me it is how ptsd is treated. that was all the "help" i got. now i get very little sleep because every night several times i wake up from the nightmares, it like i am trapped in it as well sometimes. i hate going to sleep and i fight going to sleep. which doesn't help. but my nightmares leave me so worn out that i struggle to control my sever emotionally unstable personality disorder (which i get no help with) so now i am stuck in a loop as not not sleeping means i struggle to control my emotions which make the nightmare worse and i get more flashbacks which leads to bad nights then staying up and back around again and again. its so bad i cant think straight last time i asked for help i received nothing but information on groups. my head was so bad i was almost ran over because nothing click in my mind. i almost asked to be an inpatient but then i would never get to see my children
Do you have any videos on intimate partner abuse/violence (IPV) and or cptsd (complex postmatic stress disorder) and/or recovering from childhood neglect/abuse? If so please put the links below :-)
Thank you for this. Are you familiar with PSYCH-K and what is your take on it?
Just how effective is this rewind technique really? Like whats the general success/fail rate?
I have complex PTSD from recent and past traumas. Can you please tell me how I can find a therapist that will use the technique you suggest rewind etc?
what if relaxing is near impossible ? multiple traumas bad experiences with out very few sessions ?
Does the Rewind method work for cPTSD where there isnt a conscious memory of a traumatic event to work with?
Do you have a video on treating trauma when the patient has symptoms of trauma but there is no memory of specific events?
Reporting the past event would have possibly retraumatized her... that's one of the main reasons many people choose that option. Unfortunately, many people who behave like her uncle have more than one "victim".....
Is there a link to training for use of Rewind Technique?
I found this at the end of The Filming of Trauma, with Gabor Mat`e and want to do this so badly. I'm doing brainspotting now after trying EDMR. This is what I need. Hope this helps. You can purchase the series of the film and it explains it. Also there's videos and searches for therapists in your area. Mine doesn't have any. Nothing unsure. Nobody knows the word Trauma here.
The above is the hypnosis I just found for sleep tonight on it.
How does someone do the "Rewind Technique" on themselves?
Nancy Boutin I would also like to know this!
There is an app
Please would you think about putting trigger warnings at the start of your videos
I don't see the references. :/
What if the trauma continues .? Like it is a chronic pain situation that is continuous trauma
Is this could be applied for CPTSD ?
Yes it can. Rather than considering this a technique custom designed for a specific diagnosis; understand that this technique facilitates the reprocessing of past events in such a way that the narrative of those events hold no “traumatic” or otherwise “negative” value anymore.
The same technique will help phobics overcome their phobias for example.
does confroting or challenging your abuser ever work? i have (along with anxiety and depression) such rage towards my abuser that i want to k him. i used to be such a kind and loving person but now i have such extreme thoughts that i know are wrong, but i cant move on from the abuse i suffered
Anger is normal. It will pass. You are still a kind and loving person.
@@tnt01 thank you.
@@bobby6308 i have been there and understand. take care.
@@tnt01 thank you for your messages. you are a good person, all the best
The information you share is so helpful, snd will help more people if put into an animated video. The delivery here is so dry.
Maybe keep this channel AND find a skilled videographer to creat the animation.
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Why don't you explain the Rewind technique?
Poor girl
Sir can i erase all my memories from past two years?
no u cant erase memories but you reduce their impact on your or turn the volume down for these memories
EMDR technique
for me last 3 years, but it wont change the fact i lost so much
ME TOO
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So, you are an EMDR therapist?
Skip to 7:07 or get triggered. You should really put a trigger warning on this vid. Really really not good to e subjected to trauma from your beginning story.
Should you be using your client's name?
Thank you for your comment - any names used in Mark's videos or articles are pseudonyms.
Wow! How about a gd trigger warning !!!! 🤬🤬🤬
People are clicking your vid to hear about treatment but you start with horror with no warning?!?! How is it you thought this was a good intro and with no warning????!!!!!
This video should have a trigger warning
So titled ptsd treatment without reliving the trauma...😠😭 well I just had an overload yes it is irresponsible as though you are intentionally trying to trigger someone on purpose
This is the most sadistic material I have ever had the unpleasant misfortune of viewing.
How dare you
No amount of telling myself I am currently safe will ever work.
You should have started the video over half way through.
This is not helpful....
In short he says see a hypnotist do not watch this video if you have real trauma currently present
Get to the point