Yes, I agree to skip the nasty purple spectrum! Typically the better ones are 2 Kelvin diode types, both warm AND cool. But then there are the devoted red diodes which help to create a nice warm feel, while boosting efficacy. I definitely don't recommend the inset lights with those cheap plastic frames and shoddy driver. No dimmer! The "75W" light you showed makes false spectrum claims in their listing. It doesn't have UV or IR diodes. Certainly, their claims don't match the spectral graph they display in the listing. You should take a spectrometer reading to see what the thing is _really_ outputting. It's kinda funny, because Apogee is this amazing leader in horticulture lighting instrumentation. But there were no real proper readings shown here. No wattage meter readings or power factor measurements. No proper PPFD readings from a measured uniform distance. Nothing addressing target spot readings for various crop / plant types. No examples of home user instruments like mobile apps that measure lumens / PPFD. It's good to be simple. Just encourage growers to get out there and buy something and start growing. But many of these companies lie, showing inflated wattages, false PPE / PPF specs, etc. They use inferior drivers. This cheap junk has burned out far too many times for me personally and so many others. I would sooner see a grower buying a 95W light that they dim down as needed for $70. Rather than buy a $20 light that under performs or even fails prematurely. There are SO many growers who are completely disillusioned with LEDs. And it's all because of false promises and misrepresented products. This bottom feeder junk on Amazon is partly to blame! ugh..... 🙄
Thank you for another great lecture. If I may ask you for good light to grow aquatic plants, as we know water reflects some waves and mostly red ones are not going very deeply under the surface. Would kindly be able to recommend any not too expensive (roughly 50$) source of light for growing aquatic plants to the tank size 100x50x50cm, 250L? Most recommended once are over 200$. Kind regards, Kris.
Best quality from all my years of experience would be hlg. America made and no bs replacements if something happens to your light. I had a hlg 550 eco for close to two years and it’s driver stopped working and they replaced it with a more expensive higher quality 550rspec for free. Even send it out before i send the old one back in. Stay away from next light brand they are horribly overpriced and underperforming. All Chinese made lights are the same regardless of name.
I’m looking at doing aeroponics with garden plants. Peppers, tomato’s, lettuce, celery, etc. many of these plants require full sun. Would any of the lights you’re referencing in your video be sufficient for my purposes? I ask because one of your closing comments in the last 3-4 minutes mentions plants your referencing don’t require bright full light. This makes me think you’re not referencing garden plants, but instead micro greens or herbs. Thanks for the great videos!
can anyone explain what I'm missing as aside from an inset light and maybe a "warm" light for indoors for a better ambiance, what makes any of these lights actually worth picking for growth?
The LED spectrum is suitable for growth of plants (2700K for flowering plants and unto 6500K for leafy greens) and you can get more coverage (keep the light further away from the plants) so you can grow more in the same area. Plus the benefits he mentioned about shape (long thin for that space or square for that space). They are also lighter in weight and don't need fans to keep them cool. The old ones would get very hot.
When will we get something about the thermodynamic limitations of LUX indoors? I have heard Dr Bugbee say 2000ppfd is nothing outdoors. What I have never heard him say is that with "sunlight spectrum" 5400K indoors, you need 108,000 LUX to make 2000ppfd, and you can cook eggs with 108,000 LUX. LOTS of growers cranking the intensity knob from 750ppfd at 40500 LUX to 1000ppfd at 54000 LUX indoors that don't understand why all the smell disappears on that day.
Has anyone try doing a study on cannabis giving it 24 hour light and 24 hour of dark just curious cause the 12/12 cycle just wondering what it would do
Paid $79 for mine but everyone on Reddit thinks you gotta spend $250. It's like having a 1,000 horsepower car but the speed limit is 60mph. The cheaper lights can have plenty of power. Mine puts out 2,000 ppfd at the center at a distance of 12 inches. I only needed 900 to 1,000 for 16 hours a day.
This is great info, and the cost break down of cost of use, is on point, it can be very cheap to grow your own food at home. And this would be perfect for growing micro greens.
what about flood lights, lol what the heck, were you lacking ideas for this topic? What about shop lights, or flood lights, what are you actually looking to understand, is it par, is it watt, is it lumens on the box...?
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Seeing new videos of yours pop up always brightens my day. Very informative once again!
Yes, I agree to skip the nasty purple spectrum! Typically the better ones are 2 Kelvin diode types, both warm AND cool. But then there are the devoted red diodes which help to create a nice warm feel, while boosting efficacy. I definitely don't recommend the inset lights with those cheap plastic frames and shoddy driver. No dimmer! The "75W" light you showed makes false spectrum claims in their listing. It doesn't have UV or IR diodes. Certainly, their claims don't match the spectral graph they display in the listing. You should take a spectrometer reading to see what the thing is _really_ outputting.
It's kinda funny, because Apogee is this amazing leader in horticulture lighting instrumentation. But there were no real proper readings shown here. No wattage meter readings or power factor measurements. No proper PPFD readings from a measured uniform distance. Nothing addressing target spot readings for various crop / plant types. No examples of home user instruments like mobile apps that measure lumens / PPFD.
It's good to be simple. Just encourage growers to get out there and buy something and start growing. But many of these companies lie, showing inflated wattages, false PPE / PPF specs, etc. They use inferior drivers. This cheap junk has burned out far too many times for me personally and so many others. I would sooner see a grower buying a 95W light that they dim down as needed for $70. Rather than buy a $20 light that under performs or even fails prematurely.
There are SO many growers who are completely disillusioned with LEDs. And it's all because of false promises and misrepresented products. This bottom feeder junk on Amazon is partly to blame! ugh..... 🙄
Thank you for your expertise in all your videos, i really appreciate.
Good to see you again Bruce!
You are the king Bruce...thank you for everything..
Thank you for another great lecture. If I may ask you for good light to grow aquatic plants, as we know water reflects some waves and mostly red ones are not going very deeply under the surface. Would kindly be able to recommend any not too expensive (roughly 50$) source of light for growing aquatic plants to the tank size 100x50x50cm, 250L? Most recommended once are over 200$.
Kind regards,
Kris.
Thanks for all the info watching all the way from New Zealand
The man, the legend. I learn something every time I watch his videos. Thanks for educating us with your knowledge and research.
Great vid and thanks for the math on the end
really dig the new haircut! thanks for all the knowledge!
Do you publish your findings of the quality of light from the leds somewhere?
Best quality from all my years of experience would be hlg. America made and no bs replacements if something happens to your light. I had a hlg 550 eco for close to two years and it’s driver stopped working and they replaced it with a more expensive higher quality 550rspec for free. Even send it out before i send the old one back in. Stay away from next light brand they are horribly overpriced and underperforming. All Chinese made lights are the same regardless of name.
What was the name of that last tube light?I can't find it on amazon.
This is much-needed information, thanks again!
Glad you dropped this video
Thank you! That was great!
Great Video! We appreciate all you do. Thank you.
I bought a $20 panel from aliexpress with uv and ir, lettuces love it! I think more than expensive lights without IR
Thank you. I been wanting to get into house plants since growing cannabis in a tent. I think I may add a light to any house plants I get.
Thanks so much for this video!
I’m looking at doing aeroponics with garden plants. Peppers, tomato’s, lettuce, celery, etc. many of these plants require full sun. Would any of the lights you’re referencing in your video be sufficient for my purposes? I ask because one of your closing comments in the last 3-4 minutes mentions plants your referencing don’t require bright full light. This makes me think you’re not referencing garden plants, but instead micro greens or herbs.
Thanks for the great videos!
can anyone explain what I'm missing as aside from an inset light and maybe a "warm" light for indoors for a better ambiance, what makes any of these lights actually worth picking for growth?
The LED spectrum is suitable for growth of plants (2700K for flowering plants and unto 6500K for leafy greens) and you can get more coverage (keep the light further away from the plants) so you can grow more in the same area. Plus the benefits he mentioned about shape (long thin for that space or square for that space). They are also lighter in weight and don't need fans to keep them cool. The old ones would get very hot.
Electricity here in California is .32 / Kwh. HIgh usage goes up to .44 / Kwh.
Thank you Doctor Bugbee, keep the videos coming!
I am so Glad to see the Purple go away! I am using Grow LEDs for all my household lighting needs now.
i would like to know, if you have information, how bad are the led chip cob of 50w, they are freaking cheap. Great content, greating from Argentina.
What kind of houseplants are you envisioning? Basil and Oregano? Ficas?
Can someone recommend a brand of led that points the light directly downwards?
All lights that aren't a flat panel. The rectangular box style with sides. The lights are recessed.
When will we get something about the thermodynamic limitations of LUX indoors? I have heard Dr Bugbee say 2000ppfd is nothing outdoors.
What I have never heard him say is that with "sunlight spectrum" 5400K indoors, you need 108,000 LUX to make 2000ppfd, and you can cook eggs with 108,000 LUX.
LOTS of growers cranking the intensity knob from 750ppfd at 40500 LUX to 1000ppfd at 54000 LUX indoors that don't understand why all the smell disappears on that day.
It's all about getting the proper daily light integral. Use ppfd instead of lux.
Good stuff. I used 32w t8 4ft fluorescents from the hardware store for years. Plants grew fine. Especially herbs.
Awesome 👍 thanks
Hey I appreciate all that you share !
Any news on the cannabis course?
Great video, thank you
Has anyone try doing a study on cannabis giving it 24 hour light and 24 hour of dark just curious cause the 12/12 cycle just wondering what it would do
Please get a mic headset. I can barely hear @ full volume on my LG
what about a grow light review specifically for cannabis?
You should be able to apply these concepts to picking lights for growing cannabis, as well.
Paid $79 for mine but everyone on Reddit thinks you gotta spend $250. It's like having a 1,000 horsepower car but the speed limit is 60mph. The cheaper lights can have plenty of power. Mine puts out 2,000 ppfd at the center at a distance of 12 inches. I only needed 900 to 1,000 for 16 hours a day.
Bullcrap what light is it
It's a totally different topic but it might be appreciated to read/hear the man's pros & cons on "remediation".
We love u thks bugbee Sempaï
Hes the Best.
Troesma.
Appreciate the lecture as always. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Когда понимаешь что выбрал не тот университет
This is great info, and the cost break down of cost of use, is on point, it can be very cheap to grow your own food at home. And this would be perfect for growing micro greens.
I always learn something valuable from these videos. Coincidentally i was also wanting to start some venus flytraps myself so the timing is spot on.
what about flood lights, lol what the heck, were you lacking ideas for this topic? What about shop lights, or flood lights, what are you actually looking to understand, is it par, is it watt, is it lumens on the box...?
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