I am all for using oregano…..used it this past winter when I felt one was starting to cough/sneeze. Sprinkled it on their food….so they all get to have it! Also thumbs up to apple cider vinegar and probiotics! Sorry for all the health issues that your chickens are having. What we won’t do to make them better. They are the best pets..each one has their own personality…..always making me laugh. Thanks for all the information you provided us with….Will definitely save this video.
I have been looking and reading for months and months trying to diagnose my flock. Your video is the best and most informative I have seen. This was much help! Thank you!
Check them for worms too..safegard equine paste pea sized amt for chickens. Mine was lethargic. Tucking head day Time. Decreased appetite and energy. Vet said only worms. Lungs sound great! Heart ok and keel and did pelvic exam. No egg stuck. I had been giving her dog med antibiotic doxycycline. Vet said continue that 10 days 1/8 of a pill. 100 mg pill .so.dose for 1 lb hen is very small.
@@zoemarialawson8943 food grade diatomic is earth paralyzed all worms is all natural. Bc scientifically each worm needs its own “Chemical to treat/kill” so the easiest most affordable way and is completely safe for all animals including your dogs and cats or even 1500 pound horses.
@@zoemarialawson8943 diatomaceous earth paralyzes all instead of any wormer bc scientifically each worm needs its own chemical to officially kill it meaning to 100% vaccinate for worms you would have to have like 26 different medications.. so food grade diatomaceous earth paralyzes all types of worms is all natural & safe to use on all animals including cats & horses “different doses for animal size of course”
This was incredibly helpful--clear, concise, and to the point. One of our hens suddenly died a few days ago, and now we have one with bubbly discharge from her eyes. I'm going to give this Denagard a shot. Thank you for sharing all this info.
Thank you. We had some peafowls that started visiting my guinea coop and one showed up sick one day and started sleeping by my coop. A few days later my whole flock was sneezing and my king male who was recovering from a cat attack, didn’t make it 😢 it was heart breaking and sounds like your rooster, the rest of the flock is on Deneguard now and will do monthly maintenance - I wish I had found your video sooner and would have started treating them right away.
So sorry to hear that. Its definitely hard to lose ones from the flock when dealing with the disease. It can be managed, but there will be losses no matter what you do. I wish you the best with working through it!
I'm so glad this came up on my UA-cam Home feed, and I watched. My small flock is healthy at this time but a month ago I purchased three pullets from someone who, in retrospect, I wish I had not. So sorry that this happened to you and you cannot add to your flock. I have had chickens less than two years and still have a lot to learn about all the diseases and issues that can afflict chickens. Thank you for informing others.
@@SirKnight7 Since this all started a year and a half ago, I did lose three chickens. Two of those were sick initially and got better after treatment, but over time did have more flareups that they finally succumbed to. Three other of the initial ones that came with the disease got better and have had no other issues. The other chickens in my flock that were here originally along with the three bantams I rescued are all doing fine.
An idea on the sugar and water for denagard. When you do sugar, start by using hot water and mix it until diluted to a full liquid state, then mix rest of water with formula. I learned that method from hummingbird feeding. If you don’t then you will have a lot of granuals.
This really appears to be a bacterium that we cannot get away from. You could literally pick it up walking through a local Rural King or TSC or any feed store. How can you ever get away from it? Do Hatcheries test for it? I'm treating my flock for it. Can you add vitamins to the water when your treating for the 3-5 days?
@@lisaterry9217 hatcheries with NPIP certification have been tested for mycoplasma. I think it happens more often from smaller breeders selling at poultry swaps, etc. Yes it is ok to give vitamins, just don't combine with other medications.
@@oneseedoneworldwhen you say other medications can you be a lil more specific? I’m just curious like no pre/probiotics? No ACV? Poultry cell? Are these medications or just concentrate nutrients? Idk cinnamon garlic electrolytes? I do so much for my chickens lol all natural if possible feed them scrambled eggs on a regular basis too 🤗 spend a lot of my time out with my chickens on my property most days I would say probably more then most people do. But still have the occasional issue every once in a while that’s not predator related & just can’t seem to put my finger on it. & even tho a neighbors daughter is an avian vet she’s 6 hours away so isn’t any help sadly. Wouldn’t know where to get a checkup or any tests done in my area 🤷🏻♂️ just got me in a panick bc I love my birds so much lol that being said the 2 coldest months of the year I had more eggs then anyone I’ve talked to with chickens and unbelievable amount for the number of birds so it’s really hard to pinpoint what the problem is “if there is one”
Look up colloidal silver! It’s a natural antibiotic that was around long ago before antibiotics today came about. They don’t build up resistance from it either.
That sucks! We had a run in with a respiratory issue and Mareks a few years back, also from bringing in some adult chickens. We sent to the lab for testing, but nothing conclusive regarding the respiratory issue unfortunately (but at least negative for AI and ILT). We made the hard decision to cull our entire flock and let the land rest. It was really hard, but many were dying and not thriving, so for us it was the best. This year we've started again, hatching eggs only (which unfortunately doesn't help with mycoplasma, but at least eliminates other diseases). So far they are doing well, but I am still anxious! All the best for your flock ❤
I bet that was hard to have to cull your flock, although completely understandable when dealing with Mareks! So far our flock is pretty healthy with the exception of a couple that have had some sneezing and raspy breathing, although even that has started to get better with the medication. So hopefully we will be able to maintain that going forward. I also wish you all the best with your new flock!
@@samantharoseman4206 the new chickens we got were a year or more old. We got them from the same person we got our original flock from a few years ago. Three of the new chickens that we got this time had issues, and one died which I had tested at the lab. That new rooster that died lab tests came back that it had MS and MG.
Thank you. 1 month into my first flock one of my buff orpingtons has a foamy eye and is sneezing after a cold snap. This video is very informative and helpful. Really sad my flock has this, and I bought these two orpingtons from a very reputable breeder in Ontario Canada.
Sorry to hear about your flock, although I'm glad the information in the video was helpful. Most backyard breeders or small breeders don't test for it, so in some cases may not even know that its in the flock. Large breeders (like Tractor Supply) do test for it. I wish you the best with managing it.
So glad i found this video. I have 7 original chickens and just bought tractor supply out the day before Easter including turkeys. We got one free which had supposedly an issue during shipping with their leg being dislocated. After a time being in a box with another turkey both were lame. Lost those 2 and now we have one more becoming lame. I just ordered some of this off amazon and will be using asap. Thanks so much for sharing.
Sorry to hear that you lost 2. I have read that Mycoplasma can be a lot harder on turkeys. Its also hard too, because there are several diseases in poultry that have similar symptoms. I wish you the best of luck with your flock!
Thank you, I know you did this video awhile back, but I’ve had birds for 10 yrs, I’ve had Marek’s and Respiratory, I have a poultry vet and treated the whole flock, however only a few had any symptoms, what I would like to add, is that I have added to my flock, but ensure that I follow strict bio security, and quarantine. So you can and may add to your flock.
It is manageable. I have lost some and have others that been fine with it being in the flock for over 2 years now. My personal preference is just to wait it out until this flock is gone and then start over without having to deal with it. All but three of my chickens are older now (some of which are even past laying), so I think in the next couple of years I'll be able to start MG free.
Thanks for your video!!! You helped me a lot!!! Because I didn’t know what to do, in 3 days my cockerel began to fall down, coughed, sneezed, began to walk badly .. I was advised to buy an Antibiotic, but they didn’t have a Tractor. and suddenly I saw your video on UA-cam and immediately ordered drugs from Amazon..what else helped my rooster's vitamin complex ..what else helped my rooster vitamin complex Nutri Drench..this complex helped him to hold out until the medicine ...
I'm glad the video helped! Have you confirmed that the rooster has MS or MG (the two types of mycoplasma). The one problem with mycoplasma is that the symptoms are similar to many other things that chickens can get, so without a lab test you wouldn't know for sure. I hope your flock does well and stays healthy!
After the flock is gone you would just let the run remain dormant for a couple of months or more and rake out and remaining feathers and poop and dispose of it. For the coop you could probably use just water with a small amount of bleach in it. Although there may be other better products available.
Mine were separated for several months, but unfortunately they were still in close proximity (my run is separated in two areas with two separate coops). But I don't have an area where I can separate far enough to block something like MG. But agreed that any new chickens brought in should be separated for a while for multiple reasons.
Treating our large backyard flock with your recommendation, thank you! Curious if with the recommendations it helped their egg production bounce back as well. Lack of egg production is one of our symptoms.
I will say with mine it was hard to tell, because half my flock is older and doesn't lay as much anyway. Some of the issues also came about during molting time and/or winter, so they weren't really laying much then either! I will say that this past spring (after almost a year of dealing with MG and treatments) I pretty much had full normal laying from even the older girls. So overall, I would say that it did help with the egg production. It just took a while for me being able to tell!
Oh no. That's similar to what happened to me with the new batch of birds I got in the spring were infected. Since making this video I've lost two birds from MG complications. The Denagard cleared up the symptoms in two others. The rest of mine seem to fine. Once its in the flock, many birds will be carriers but never show any symptoms. I wish you the best of luck with dealing with it. It definitely sucks to have it in your flock, but it can be manageable if you choose to keep them.
@@oneseedoneworld I learned today about Tylan antibiotics as well. I believe I will alternate monthly treatments. It's my luck I would develop the super plasmas.
@@stephencarlisle6339 I prefer the Denagard over Tylan for the Mycoplasma, since over time I believe chickens can build up a resistance to Tylan which makes it less effective. In a couple of studies I read, Denagard didn't have that resistance build up so it stayed effective. Plus with Denagard there isn't any egg withdrawal. But I know a lot of chicken owners that have used the Tylan 50 with good results.
@stephencarlisle6339 I think Tylan 50 its an injection, and not for drinking, right? Or maybe someone did try it to dissolve in water for chickens to drink?
The chicks hatched and were brooded indoors. Sanitize EVERYTHING. Then two males developed splay leg. One at 3 weeks and one at 13 weeks. The rest of the flock is ok so far. I have worked so hard to build a great program. I practiced biosecurity and only brought in hatching eggs! I protect them from outside birds and sanitize everything. Guess we will call the state lab for testing. UPDATE: Breeder shipped birds out of country and had them tested for everything. We may just be dealing with poor absorption. Sigh of relief here! Also, been researching benefits of colloidal silver for MS treatment. Might be an inexpensive game changer for wormer and all things chicken 💜
Ours came from a "reputable breeder" as well. The unfortunate thing is so far there is no requirement for testing for MG or MS for breeders. If you have a vet or lab that can test for you, I would definitely recommend it. There are multiple types of things that chickens can get that have similar symptoms, so unless tested, you can't be sure its mycoplasma. Some things that have similar symptoms can be treated and gotten rid of. I'm sorry you are dealing with sick chickens, and I hope you can get it resolved, or at the very least manageable.
@oneseedoneworld I just bought 2 pullets and one of the eyes on one swelled a bit and was shut the next morning. Was supposed to get 4 but the other 2 had an eye that was swollen shut also. She said it was probably nothing but a simple symptom of a respatory infection. Could that be mycoplasma? That's the only symptom. Thanks.
@@Question-all It is possible, but hard to tell with out a test. Swollen eyes can be one of the symptoms, but swollen eyes can also be caused by eye worm, or other diseases.
This was amazing information and thank you for sharing I was just wondering what I should do if I don’t use nipple water feeders or anything of that sort I just use a hanging cup for their water cause my flock is 2 hens and 1 rooster so I don’t need that much I was just wondering on how much denagard would I put or if I would have to use a water feeder when I use the treatment
I use 2 TBLSP per gallon, so you could just scale that back to fit a smaller container. You don't have to use a hanging feeder. I just have a big water dish that sits on the ground for mine, and I just change it out everyday. One additional note is that I found my chickens prefer apple juice concentrate mixed in over the sugar, some chickens can be picky :)
Ty for the video/ great information..i have a young rooster that i just noticed is drooling profusely.. this newest flock of 7 are young and aren't getting the food like the older flock because of the older flock running them off.. not sure if he is just filled up on water, or if it's sour crop.. just researching but, ty for the info on micro and deneguard
Drooling is most likely sour crop, at least with my experience with it. Hope you can get him feeling back up to par again! I'm glad you found this info helpful, thanks for commenting!
Thank you sincerely for the best source of info I’ve found online from someone who is managing this first hand ❤️ I’m concerned that I brought a pair of turkey poults in with mycoplasma. One became very sick, gaping, stumbling, never grew, swollen airsac and then died after about 10 days. Initially, after one orange tinged dropping, I thought it was coccidiosis so I treated with Toltrazuril to no avail. However, the other poult has grown strong, no signs of sickness, absolutely zero issues. Is this possible with mycoplasma? Could one clearly exposed bird never show any symptoms? They were the only two birds in a quarantined brooder. I have 3 brooders in my house right now and have NO place else to keep my other chicks but in the house in separate rooms. Desperately trying to keep this from spreading 😞 Also, not sure what to do with this lonely turkey 😞 I will get them tested but I’d love to hear if this is possible with mycoplasma. Thank you so very much! ❤️
Sorry to hear you are dealing with this as well! Yes, some birds can be carriers and never show any symptoms. I have several chickens in my flock that have yet to show any issues (and this is after two years since it first arrived with the new chickens). It is a pain to deal with, and some birds will die, but it can be managed with treatments and also feeding your chickens/turkeys anything that will boost their immune systems helps too. Many times mycoplasma can just make other underlying issues worse, so the stronger the immune systems the better chance they have.
@@oneseedoneworld thank you for your very quick input, I value it so very much. Well shoot.. I guess I have the opportunity now to seriously consider the 40 chickens outside who hopefully have not been exposed. Sharing your daily struggles & losses with this could not be more powerful. I spend hours daily tinkering & improving the life of my chickens, they are my greatest joy. I can’t bear the thought of starting that battle knowing the cost. Thank you ❤️
@@Tanya-jl6rd It is a challenge. I had some die pretty quick after the new ones came with the disease.. Others got sick and then better with treatment, and others never had an issue. I'm down to 7 now and not getting anymore until these are all gone. 4 of the 7 are older and don't really even lay much anymore, but I still love each of them. I wish you the best with yours!
Thank you, I wish you all of the best with yours too! I will follow your content elsewhere 😊 it’s a great resource to find folks who share the hard parts of keeping these little feathered buddies. Thank you for your time 😊
Thank you for the info. I thought culling was my only option and it was saddening to me. I will be using denegard moving forward. Do you use it forever? Once a month ?
Yes, one treatment a month for 3-5 days. Although I don't do it every month myself. I do treatments when symptoms flare up. In the beginning of the summer I had two hens that were sneezing constantly, so I did a treatment then. Within 3 days they were fine. Then this past week I had one that was having trouble walking, so I started another round of Denagard. By the 4th day, she was back to running around normally with the other girls. Best of luck with your girls!
@@CCteamBlue They didn't have swelling. It was more extreme weakness. Like they couldn't hold weight, would stumble, or go just a few steps and plop down and not be able to stand back up.
How long should I let the run/dirt rest before bringing in new hens, will cull and raise chicks through the winter. Hoping lots of rain and cold will get the disease out of the pen/run.
Thorough cleaning and drying out of the coop, and then disinfection with bleach. Leave the coop and run bird free for several weeks (hot, dry weather is optimal) before restocking with new birds.
Thank you, I found your video very informative. My 10 yr old son bought 17 chicks with his birthday money from a backyard breeder. Unfortunately, they were ill chick and only 7 chicks are still alive. We have tried 2 different antibiotics, which helped 6 chicks but the 1 chick remains ill. Our vet mentioned that it may be mycoplasma and that the humane option would be euthanasia. 😔
So sorry to hear this. That has to be especially hard for your son! Culling the entire flock can be an option, and then starting over again (although you do have to make sure the coop is sanitized and the entire area should probably be left for a month or two to clear out any remaining possible infection. The other option is what I do, keep the birds that remain and treat as necessary. Some birds will only be carriers and never have symptoms. But then you also can't add any more birds to your flock. I wish breeders were required to test for MG prior to selling, but unfortunately so far that is not the case. Whatever you choose, I hope you're able to get through it ok, and that your son will not be turned off to having chickens after such a rough first experience.
Its been almost a year since we first got the infected chickens. Since then I had 6 chickens out of 12 get sick. 3 died (2 older chickens and one of the new ones that came with the MG). 3 others that had a lot of respiratory issues (sneezing, wheezing, etc) got better with 1 to 3 treatments of the Denagard. I now only treat if issues arise, but haven't seen any more issues since around October. I also adopted 3 bantams last August that were found in the woods. They have not had any issues so far. Some birds will never exhibit any signs and will just be carriers of the disease.
My flock has Mycoplasma MS and in just so sad that no matter what I do I keep randomly loosing one every other month. They did 21 days of antibiotics prescribed by the Vet and I also used VetRX on them almost daily. Yet I have a few sneezing badly and having respiratory! Issues. I haven’t tried Denaguard but that’s what I’ll be doing next thanks to your video, any other tips other than the Deneguard every month? I have been giving them vitamins in their food and water and sometimes plain Greek yogurt as well. Did you ever tried colloidal silver? What do you do if one of them gets really bad with sneezing droplets and struggling to breathe? Thanks 🙏🏻
At the time I am watching your video, one of the sick roosters is having a rasp breathing problem. Like you, we treat our flocks as pets and give them names so selling and slaughtering them is out of question.
We already buried 9-10 of them. Some begin to show signs of recovery, some are beginning to suffer from it and this particular rooster starts to breathe with a little ease. I hope he recovers tomorrow.
@@sugiantoyusuf5229 So sorry to hear that. I have lost a few of mine over the years and three last year to the mycoplasma. I wish you the best of luck with your flock!
I am so disappointed with my two new girls. I drove quite a ways to get them. I didn't notice unti after i got them home that their beaks were trimmed. One looks to be growing back ok, but i am afraid the poor hen that's sick may have a cross beak condition. Its a shame she is so sweet. I put garlic in her water unti the Denegard gets here and it seems to be helping. I would advise having it on hand before you need it. I am not experienced to give an injection, and this is the only oral antibiotic i have found so far.
One of the chickens I got in the spring had a beak trimmed as well, and I believe it was done to hide crossbeak (although I immediately noticed it). This is the 2nd hen I've had with crossbeak, and both have done fine with eating and drinking as the crossbeak while noticeable, wasn't overly severe. The first one that had crossbeak lived for almost 4 years without issue from the crossbeak. I wish you the best with yours!
@@Cityhomesteaders727 Not sure why they don't carry it. I always get mine from Amazon, but there are a couple of other pet supply places online that carry it also (Valley Vet Supply, PBS Animal Health).
I'm wondering if I have the start of mycoplasma in my flock but I haven't had the one chicken tested yet her only thing is I noticed she had bubbly stuff on the one side of one eye I noticed it one night when I was putting them to bed but and I separated her . Theres no other symptoms at all and the next day it wasn't as much and even I didn't see it at all but then saw some a bit later but not much so idk if it's mycoplasma or something else . Your vid has great info too
The foamy eye can be a symptom of mycoplasma, although they also could have just some irritation. Without testing its hard to know for sure since so many different things with chickens have similar symptoms.
@oneseedoneworld I hope it's something else and not mycoplasma but she went to the vet this morning and got a stool sample, antibiotics and eye cream so tomorrow I'll know for sure what it is !
Since this all started a year and a half ago, I did lose three chickens. Two of those were sick initially and got better after treatment, but over time did have more flareups that they finally succumbed to. Three other of the initial ones that came with the disease got better and have had no other issues. The other chickens in my flock that were here originally along with the three bantams I rescued are all doing fine.
My understanding is that mycoplasmosis does not affect humans, so the meat would be safe to eat. However if you were treating the disease with Denagard or other medical treatments, you would not want to cull the birds for eating for several days after treatment. For me, I don't eat my birds, only use them for eggs, so I can't speak from personal experience, only from studies I have read on the subject.
Hello my girl started to wheeze and has lost weight, was lethargic and her breathing sounded really congested. No eye swelling, or heavy nasal discharge just occasional sneezing but a lot wheezing.I’ve been treating her with penicillin and safeguard for about a week. She has improved some but it’s not herself, I want to try Denagard but I was wondering if could share a dose not for water but to feed her orally, I have 1 ml and 0.5 ml that I can measure and give it to her so I make sure she gets the same amount everyday at the same time. Also how do the vet test for Mycoplasma??? Stool sample? What are your thoughts on oregano oil? Thanks for making such a great video. I will save this video for future reference. I subscribed. Thanks for your response.
It is not recommended to give chickens undiluted Denegard or the daily dose all at once. Since the disease is so contagious, it is best to treat the whole flock instead of just one chicken even if they don't show symptoms. 1 TBS per gallon of water for treatment, although if just doing as a preventive you can use about half that. Denagard is pretty strong and bitter, so it is best to dilute in water and add some sugar (although more recently I found that my chickens prefer it with a diluted apple juice and water solution). Vets test for mycoplasma with a blood sample or a throat swab. I have not used oregano oil myself, although I do feed my chickens fresh oregano from the garden from time to time. Oregano oil can help strengthen their immune systems to help them fight various poultry diseases. I hope you can get your girl back to healthy again! With my flock, Denagard helped some and not others. Sometimes there are other underlying things that you may not be aware of that are exacerbated by the addition of mycoplasma.
MG can't be cured, you can only mitigate the symptoms, so they always will be contagious. Besides keeping them separate, you also need to wear separate clothing/shoes, separate tools, etc before handling chickens that have not been affected. Hopefully you are able to keep them very far apart.
Hi there, Great video! I have subscribed! We gave our flock Ivermectin pour on 1 week ago to treat the flock for mites, lice & worms. Do you know when it would be safe for us to use the Denagard for respiratory illness? I’m almost certain that our flock has Mycoplasma. 1 hen is showing really bad symptoms (coughing, gurgling, open mouth breathing, diarrhea etc).
Thank you for subscribing! Sorry to hear your chickens are having a rough time. I dont have personal experience with Ivermectin, so I can't say for sure. I did read that Ivermectin should not be used in combination with other medicines, and while egg withdrawal is not required, at least 7 days is recommended. Just based on that I would wait at least a week, but would recommend checking with a local vet for more solid confirmation. Sorry that I don't have a more definitive answer for you, but I wish you the best of luck with your flock!
Thank you for all your firsthand honest info! I enjoy watching your chicken videos. Your calm demeanor has helped me not to panic a couple times now. I am going to order the generic Denagard thru your link. Thank you for sharing.
Unfortunately so many people don’t understand this or care enough to test their flock or keep good hygiene. I’ve been so worried about this, I’m still looking into what it could be but all my birds have randomly started sneezing and almost “barking” but like a high pitched single cluck, like if a raspy chihuahua were to bark.
Yes, mycoplasma does not affect humans. I dont use my birds for meat, but all the research I've done on it, the only time you need to hold off on using the meat is after the treatment. If not treating the meat is fine.
A combination of info provided by vet websites, poultry medicine supply sites and chicken forums. Additionally I have been treating my flock for it for over a year now using these dosages.
Thank you so much for your video, I'm very upset, because I keep quails and chickens and my quails got sick a month ago and unfortunately it's mycoplasma. Since than I keep them in my room and I change shoes when I go out to the garden or to clean the chicken coop, but can't change clothes everytime I'm going out of my room :( So my question is what else can I do to protect my chickens from this bacteria? For me they're like pets, I love my quails too, I can't kill them and I wouldn't kill my chickens if they would get it but I don't know if there is any chance they won't catch it. I have 3 chickens and unfortunately one of them is already sneezing now and one has diarrhea. It's such a strange disease, because 3 of my quails showed symptoms and all of them died within 3 weeks but 2 of them has no symptoms at all. Is this infection take so much time to hit or will they remain asymptomatic? Unfortunately there is no Denagard in my country, so I try to treat them with Tylan. I've ordered Gale of the Wind tea so I'll make a tea for them, I've read it is effective against mycoplasma.
So sorry to hear of the issues you are experiencing. Some birds will just be carriers and never show any symptoms. I have several like that. I have had some with the sneezing, etc., that cleared up with treatment, and never had a problem again, others need treatment from time to time, and others unfortunately will succumb to the disease. Since you don't have access to Denegard, the Tylan may help, and anything you can do to boost your flocks immune system can be helpful as well (oregano and other herbs, dried hot pepper flakes, etc.) Some viewers suggested colloidal silver, although I don't have any experience with that myself, so you would need to research that more on dosage, etc. Additionally, I think some of the things you are doing like changing shoes, etc., can help reduce spread, and just try and be as careful as you can with any cross contamination. It is hard to deal with at times, but can be manageable to an extent. I wish you the best of luck with your chickens and quails!
what should I do? Give me advice please help me!! Can you tell me... I bought little Bentham roosters from the market place. I already had my chickens, but I didn’t keep them with my chickens, They were separately in a different cage, can my chickens get infected???...
Did the new roosters have Mycoplasma? It does travel very easily. To avoid cross contamination to your existing flock the new roosters would have to be kept completely separate in an area far enough away from them where feathers, feces, etc., couldn't reach them. Additionally, you would need to sanitize any tools, clothes and shoes you use/wear before going from one flock to the other, as it can travel on your shoes, clothes and tools.
So we have had a majoj problem with microplasm. Our first symptom was with lack of egg production which i which i wish i saw this video before the second symptom; death! We've lost a total of 13 chickens in 2 weeks. I ordered the Trigard version and am going to start the rest of my flock asap. Are the precautions that need to be taken, the same as the name brand version?
So sorry about the issues you are having and losing so many chickens! I hope you can get it under control with treatment. Yes use the same precautions for the generic or name brand versions.
I had a very healthy flock ,but bought from a girl for more chickens,and ive had to deal with sick chickens of 9 so been treating them on meds for 2 months of coughing ,sneezing,runny noses,and ive been to vets that arent chicken vets but perscribed amoxicillin then it got worse lost 4 and went to another vet and he perscribed tetracycline,it really helped and i did order tiaguard ,so its been so hot and dry here ,but ive noticed 2 of my hens have swollen faces ond 1 has tiny bubbles in her eyes so now what do i do ,i just watched your video and they just came off sulfadimethoxine after they were on the tetracycline, and now i got some recovery 911 for electrolytes and vitamins and oregano to replenish things in their bodies so ive not used their eggs now for 2 months my poor girls seem like theyve been on meds so long,so now with the foamy eye on one do i give tiagard to them again which is a generic form of denagard, ugh i feel like i let my poor hens down ,their my beautiful pets and im doing the best i can ,im new to all this ,please any advice would be great
I'm sorry you are having to go through all this! And you ended up with it the same way we did. I wish they would require breeders/sellers to test for it. It sounds like you are doing everything possible to help mitigate it and then some. You could try the tiagard one more time. I had one girl that required a couple of rounds two different times. There are some that respond well to the treatments, others may only respond for a short time or not at all. I have had experience with both. Some of my girls cleared right up after the first couple days of treatment and haven't had a problem since. Others struggled for a while and needed more treatments over the course of a couple months or so, and I had some that didn't make it at all. I hope your flock can work through the worst of it and that you can get to the point where you can start using eggs again!
I too am currently dealing with this. I’m on east coast in NC. Our vet said they have seen large increases in respiratory issues but we got ours the same way. Adding new adult birds😢. I’m devastated. We’ve lost 5 of 24 already and am fairly certain we will lose more. We are awaiting necropsy results but the suspicion is MG. We quarantined for 6 weeks before adding to the flock but as they can be carriers we are fairly certain the stress once combined brought it out and infected our entire flock. Our vet put ours on tylan soluble in waterers and for the swollen eyes and faces we have terramycin ointment.
@@jacksonsworld3266 Hopefully your flock will work through it with the treatments. I lost three initially, but since then the flock has done ok and symptoms pop up rarely.
Hello, and thank you for your vid. Relly nice coop. I have about 28 chickens with 5 little ones and three rosters. I just noticed one of my birds about 10 months old that was fathered by the silky rooster and a white Hin has swollen feet with no sore on the bottom. I was told it could be hereditary. Would you know, if that is the case, how soon the feet would swell after they are hatched. The Hin and Silky roster do not have swollen feet. Then, about a day or two later I noticed another chicken from the same Brode is now getting swollen feet. I have separated the two but have treated only with a Epson salt soak and colloidal Silver. The toes and pads are swollen. What do I do. If I treated with the Denagard and it turned out to be an infection from a cut would the medication do harm. From what I can tell is they are not sneezing, no runny eyes. and don't sound congested. It's Bumble foot, a bacterial infection or what your spoke of. Don't know what to do? Thank you for your time.
I don't know about the hereditary part. Are both feet swollen? Bumblefoot can mimic other leg and foot issues. The early warning signs of bumblefoot are hard puffy scabs that may look like small blisters. Also I don't know if it would show up on both feet in two chickens, so it sounds like it could be something else. But if the chickens are walking and acting normal, then it may, as you mentioned, just be hereditary. Denegard wouldn't hurt them, but I cannot say it would be necessary to treat them with it either if the only thing they have is swollen feet. There are so many different things that chicken can get and many of them have very similar symptoms, so sometimes its hard to tell without testing. Do you have a vet in your area that treats chickens?
Thank you for getting back to me. Yes, both feet are swollen, and they have a yellow circle like mark but not lesion on the tops of their feet. Anyway, really appreciate all your efforts.
From what I have read, people do use it for ducks. although I can't speak to any detailed info on that. You can use Denagard as a preventative. Use half dosage for preventative for 3 to 5 days. I did not experience any side affects in my chickens, however there are some cases of chickens that can have hypersensitivity to this medication, so if you notice issues stop dosage immediately. Don't combine with high doses of the anticoccidials monensin, narasin, or salinomycin (mixing these medicines with Denagard can cause illness/death). Daily dose must be given gradually over time--not all at once nor in a single meal. Never give undiluted or bird's system may react with extreme gagging or other symptoms. Also since making this video, I found that adding apple juice concentrate to the water worked the best for my girls (since the medicine tastes so bad, they might avoid drinking. Adding sugar to the water (as mentioned in the video) did work, but the apple juice concentrate worked the best. I just mix one container of the apple juice concentrate in with 2 gallons of water along with the dosage of Denagard. I now have a mix of bantams and regular size hens, so now I just do half dosage whenever I need to use it to make sure the littles don't get too much.
I got a couple of new chicks that were hatched recently. Now worried because i discovered one of the chickens in my flock has MG disease. If I separate the new chicken, will they be safe from MG forever?
It is possible, but they would have to be far enough away. MG can be carried on clothes, shoes, tools, etc. So you would need to change and sanitize the clothes and shoes you wore when working with affected chickens before going to the non affected area. Even then there would still be a chance it could spread if something was missed. It is unfortunately a highly contagious disease in chickens. The good news is that it can be manageable with medicine, and some birds never even show symptoms at all. Out of 14 birds, I had 2 die and 3 others that had varying symptoms that cleared when they received a monthly dose of Denagard. The remaining 9 birds haven't had any issues at all so far. With some, the MG can aggravate an underlying issue that you may have been unaware of, but if your birds are healthy there is a good chance they can live for years like normal chickens without an issue. You just have to be cautious to not spread to other flocks once you are aware your flock has it.
Hi , you mentioned that you took your deceased chicken to a lab to get tested, how do I find a place to take mine and how costly is it. I'm in LA area and is hard enough to fin a vet that treats chickens.
You might be able to check with local vet and see if they can recommend a place. The lab I went to handles all kinds of testing for animals, even large animals like cows, horses, etc. The cost here for a necropsy I think was $40 and then an additional $30 for the histology. I know that is pricey for a chicken, but for me it was worth it to see what I was dealing with for the rest of my flock. Plus the lab tests are much more extensive and provide detailed reports that a vet couldn't do. I did find this website that lists necropsy labs by state, so maybe this will help give you some direction for your area. www.heritageacresmarket.com/poultry-necropsy-labs/
I don't remember the amount I used initially, although I think it may have been a 1/4 cup. Over time though I have switched to using one container of frozen apple juice concentrate mixed with 2 gallons of water instead of the sugar. My chickens seemed to prefer that when they were getting their treatments.
Have a flock of 40 took in a roo. Two months ago and. Lost two hens. Signs were the same, right leg limping getting worse after 3 weeks. Now a 3rd hen starting to limp..😢😢
Its possible, since those are some of the symptoms. The issue is that there are other problems that can cause this as well, such as dust/irritation. However if it continues, you may need to consider having them tested (if you have a vet that will do it nearby).
Sorry to hear that. It can be managed, but it is worrying and can reduce over all flock egg laying, health and longevity. I wish you the best with working through it!
Yes, Valbazen can be used on ducks as well. I don't raise ducks, and I did have a hard time finding exact info for dosage for ducks. I did find this on one forum though: "Valbazen: .08 mls per pound of duck. For a 5 lb duck that would be .4mls. (can round up to .5 for ease of use) Given once and then 10 days later given one more time." Hope that helps!
@@paisleyramirez7206 I have not used it myself, but know a lot of people have used it successfully with chickens. You'll probably want to double check dosages, but it should work the same way.
Once the flock is gone you would make sure and remaining feathers, feces, etc. is cleaned up and disposed of. The let the yard/run lay dormant for a couple of months (and sanitize the coop) prior to getting new chickens.
Do you know if water like flooding can kill the bacteria in the soil? I also read a second hand comment that without any host the bacteria will die after 72 hours. Don't know if that is true. It is very hard to get info on this subject.
Hello, could you please tell me if you've had any experience with swelling in the feet, ankle(s), and/or hock(s) that can happen with MS and if so, did the Denagard help at all? If not, do you think it would help if that's the only symptom and they're acting perfectly normal otherwise? I realize there is no cure, but if there's anything at all that can be done to keep it under control and from worsening, that would be GREAT. Any and all advice/recommendations would be greatly appreciated, including natural remedies (internal/topical). Thank you in advance for your time.
I have not had any issue with foot swelling with MS/MG. That sounds like it could be Bumblefoot. Bumblefoot can be caused when they get an infection from bacteria which can happen if they have had an injury, or irritation from poor litter management. You can get antibiotics for treatment from a vet, and you can also soak their feet in warm water with epsom salts. While dealing with it, separate the affected chickens and change their bedding daily. i don't have affiliation with them, but Azure Farm has a more detailed article on Bumblefoot and treatment here: www.azurefarmlife.com/farm-blog/2022/1/20/treatment-for-bumblefoot-in-chickens-naturally-and-surgically#:~:text=Wrap%20your%20chicken%20securely%20in,the%20kernel%20without%20aggressive%20intervention.
I have three chickens who all have a swollen hock and are limping. That’s the only symptom. Otherwise they look completely normal. I and wondering if its infectious synovitis. They started limping about 10 days apart. The one who started limping four weeks ago now just looks wobbly on her feet. It’s a s if the hocks give way under her. Is that what your chickens did?
I think my rooster has ms for awhile I thought it was mareks but not all the symptoms fit, scaly leg mites did not look right. But ms fits perfectly. Is it contagious?
That's one issue with a lot of the chicken issues is that so many of them have similar symptoms. But yes MS and MG are both super contagious, can travel on your shoes, tools, clothes, and generally if one chicken has it, then all of them will have it. Just some aren't as affected with symptoms as others. But the only way to know for sure is to have the flock tested.
We had got a new rooster that suddenly died after only having him two weeks. So I took him to a local lab and they did a necropsy and histology which is where I found out about mine. But if you have a local vet that handles chickens, they can test live chickens with a tracheal swab. Generally, if one chicken has it, you can figure that the rest of the flock does too, since it is so contagious among birds.
Some can. It will will really depend on the bird. Some will be carriers and never show any signs of illness. Others will need treatment from time to time, and others won't make it. I have 4 birds that are five years old now that have it and my other birds are 2 to 3 years old.
Unfortunately not, Denagard is primarily used for mycoplasma strains MG and MS. I don't have experience with bird flu, so I'm not sure what treatments they use for that.
I am clueless. 8 chicken flock. 8months old. One chicken only with rt eye shut , hoarseness & lethargic since Sat afternoon. Eating mealwroms only with enthusiasm sunday. Sav A Chik on water, isolated. Some loose stools. Not perching. TSC said eye infection so using teramycin. Shes not getting better. Any advice? Sat was very windy witb the eclipse. Help!
I'm sorry your chicken is going through this! Its hard to tell, because there are several different diseases chickens can get that have similar symptoms, and you can't know for sure without a lab test (for live chickens, normally done by a vet with a swab test). You could try the denagard, but can't say for sure if that would mitigate the issue. Its good they are eating the meal worms on their own, but the hoarseness, swollen eye and not perching is concerning. Do you have a local vet that sees chickens?
@@oneseedoneworld NOT sure about a vet I'll check. Her eye isn't swollen at ALL. Just will only open it every now and again. I did order some just because it seems like a good idea. I got 2 drops of Vetrx in her mouth a few minutes ago & she immediately perked up a bit, ate really good & drank. Yea!
@oneseedoneworld She is doing much better this morning after 2x VetRx treatments Yesterday. Trying to use her voice & laid a normal egg. I have her in the mancave/garage
Oil of oregano definitely helps with boosting their immunity, but may not curb more extreme symptoms. But regular feedings using oregano and other herbs, hot pepper flakes, etc may give them a better chance overall.
Yes. Mycoplasma affects chickens, turkeys, game birds, pigeons and other wild birds. Ducks and geese can become infected when held with infected chickens, or from being exposed to infected items, feathers, or feces.
I lost all my chickens 😭😭😭😭 i am distraught i could reminise about those days when they were just chicks when i brought them then they had chicks aswell then they started dying one by one
@@rhondaellerbe3463 I think it will probably vary depending on the hen and how affected they are by the disease. I had some that never stopped laying, others that stopped and started again a week or two after treatment, and others that started laying within just a couple of days after treatment completed. In my experience there wasn't a specific trend.
Im scared that my flock has it avian TB. TY For sharing. i will never kill my flock love them I have 17, , My 2 roosters that died started wasting away got so skinny,. no sneezes ,. vet gave me amoxcillian did xrays on 2 hens said lungs dark & shouldnt be so was somthing respertory. never said avian tb But now my leghorn fluffing up, tucking her head & not herself. & I have a silkie mix, a cochin bantam & another mix that are distancing from flock & not wanting to free range :( scares me. All eating. i dont see diareha. So the DENAGARD at TS IS NOT FOR CHICKENS? Which do i buy for ? My flock is 7 months old to 2.5 years old. I cant imagine losing them all but have lost 3 hens & 2 roosters in less than 2 years months apart. Im so scared!! Im in NC. 1/24/2024
I am sorry to hear you are going through this with your flock. There are several different diseases that chickens can get that have similar symptoms so it is hard to tell exactly what they may without lab tests. Denagard was not made originally for chickens, it is primarily used for treating pigs, which is why it would say at TS its not for chickens. However, Denagard has been used for years to treat chickens with different issues (primarily mycoplasma) they just get much smaller doses than the pigs do! I hope you can get your flock back to being healthy again!
I had to order it. Is there anything I can do to save my leg horn until it gets here? Stopped eating and acts like she doesn't wanna leave run. Scared. Tucks head fluffs up
@@zoemarialawson8943 You may have to do syringe feeding by mouth if they won't eat on their own. If you haven't done it before, there are some videos on UA-cam on how to safely do it. Generally some liquids with vitamins/electrolytes, watered down yogurt, etc. That can keep them hydrated and give them some nutrients.
Yes, since the disease is so contagious, you may have some that are carriers and never show signs of sickness. Just don't mix with any other medications. I haven't ever treated just one chicken. I just put it in the water as directed (and with apple cider concentrate or sugar to get rid of the bitter flavor) and put in the main waterer for all the chickens to drink from. That has worked best for me.
still no sneezing or lung issues Just lame left foot that started out in right foot & switched withing 24 hrs! maybe im not dealing with mareks! idk whats happening. @@oneseedoneworld
If they haven't been treated with medicine, yes you can eat them. Mycoplasma doesn't transfer to humans. If you have treated with Denagard or another type of medicine, you need to wait 10 days to 2 weeks before consuming the meat. Chicks will most likely be infected since it transfers from the hen to the chick in the egg.
@@oneseedoneworld I got a flock about 200 so it is convenient for me to vaccinate them and I did already order that product. Do you recommend and I am going to treat the whole flock with it
I fortunately have not run into an issue with blindness or even eye problems with my flock. The two issues I have dealt with is respiratory and walking issues. In both cases of walking issues, I ended up losing the hens, although with one, treatment to work for several months where they got better for a while and then it came back.
I prefer the Denagard over Tylan for the Mycoplasma, since over time I believe chickens can build up a resistance to Tylan which makes it less effective. In a couple of studies I read, Denagard didn't have that resistance build up so it stayed effective. Plus with Denagard there isn't any egg withdrawal.
@@oneseedoneworld one of my hens was suffering from this diesease and I gave her very small pieces of garlic and some guinea hen weed and she made it through and she is loves to eat medicinal plants like stinging nettle blue vervain marjoram&bird peppers aka chilli peppers in America
@@sunfrancis6669 I had misunderstood your first comment. Yes, those medicinal plants and other types of herbs can help boost their immune systems. While the disease isn't curable, building up the immune systems will better help them mitigate a lot of the symptoms.
DOES it cause a chicken to hang it's wings down and tail? Stand more upright like a penguin and waddle like a penguin? I have a chicken with those symptoms now that I noticed yesterday.
Thats a new one to me. Although chickens should normally have their tails up. If the tail feathers are down all the time and that isn't normal for your chicken it generally means they aren't feeling well, but that could be from anything.
@@oneseedoneworld All the clinical people I have talked to say she can't be tested until she's dead, and I'm doing my Best to save her life not have her put down...
I am all for using oregano…..used it this past winter when I felt one was starting to cough/sneeze. Sprinkled it on their food….so they all get to have it! Also thumbs up to apple cider vinegar and probiotics! Sorry for all the health issues that your chickens are having. What we won’t do to make them better. They are the best pets..each one has their own personality…..always making me laugh. Thanks for all the information you provided us with….Will definitely save this video.
Crushed garlic cloves in their water helps too!
Do you use dried or fresh oregano?
I have been looking and reading for months and months trying to diagnose my flock. Your video is the best and most informative I have seen. This was much help! Thank you!
Thank you! I'm so glad you found it helpful! I wish you the best with your flock!
Check them for worms too..safegard equine paste pea sized amt for chickens. Mine was lethargic. Tucking head day Time. Decreased appetite and energy. Vet said only worms. Lungs sound great! Heart ok and keel and did pelvic exam. No egg stuck.
I had been giving her dog med antibiotic doxycycline. Vet said continue that 10 days 1/8 of a pill. 100 mg pill
.so.dose for 1 lb hen is very small.
@@zoemarialawson8943 food grade diatomic is earth paralyzed all worms is all natural. Bc scientifically each worm needs its own “Chemical to treat/kill” so the easiest most affordable way and is completely safe for all animals including your dogs and cats or even 1500 pound horses.
@@zoemarialawson8943 diatomaceous earth paralyzes all instead of any wormer bc scientifically each worm needs its own chemical to officially kill it meaning to 100% vaccinate for worms you would have to have like 26 different medications.. so food grade diatomaceous earth paralyzes all types of worms is all natural & safe to use on all animals including cats & horses “different doses for animal size of course”
This was incredibly helpful--clear, concise, and to the point. One of our hens suddenly died a few days ago, and now we have one with bubbly discharge from her eyes. I'm going to give this Denagard a shot. Thank you for sharing all this info.
Thank you! I hope you have success with getting your hen healthy again. Its hard when they're sick, plus so many things have similar symptoms.
Thank you. We had some peafowls that started visiting my guinea coop and one showed up sick one day and started sleeping by my coop. A few days later my whole flock was sneezing and my king male who was recovering from a cat attack, didn’t make it 😢 it was heart breaking and sounds like your rooster, the rest of the flock is on Deneguard now and will do monthly maintenance - I wish I had found your video sooner and would have started treating them right away.
So sorry to hear that. Its definitely hard to lose ones from the flock when dealing with the disease. It can be managed, but there will be losses no matter what you do. I wish you the best with working through it!
I'm so glad this came up on my UA-cam Home feed, and I watched. My small flock is healthy at this time but a month ago I purchased three pullets from someone who, in retrospect, I wish I had not. So sorry that this happened to you and you cannot add to your flock.
I have had chickens less than two years and still have a lot to learn about all the diseases and issues that can afflict chickens. Thank you for informing others.
Thank you! I hope all goes well with your flock!
@@oneseedoneworldhow are the chickens now?
@@SirKnight7 Since this all started a year and a half ago, I did lose three chickens. Two of those were sick initially and got better after treatment, but over time did have more flareups that they finally succumbed to. Three other of the initial ones that came with the disease got better and have had no other issues. The other chickens in my flock that were here originally along with the three bantams I rescued are all doing fine.
An idea on the sugar and water for denagard. When you do sugar, start by using hot water and mix it until diluted to a full liquid state, then mix rest of water with formula. I learned that method from hummingbird feeding. If you don’t then you will have a lot of granuals.
Great advice!
Thank you so much for the encouraging words and gelp with how to keep our flock as healthy as possible. I'll be ordering the Denagard today.
I'm glad the info was helpful! I wish you the best with your flock!
This really appears to be a bacterium that we cannot get away from. You could literally pick it up walking through a local Rural King or TSC or any feed store. How can you ever get away from it? Do Hatcheries test for it? I'm treating my flock for it. Can you add vitamins to the water when your treating for the 3-5 days?
@@lisaterry9217 hatcheries with NPIP certification have been tested for mycoplasma. I think it happens more often from smaller breeders selling at poultry swaps, etc. Yes it is ok to give vitamins, just don't combine with other medications.
@@oneseedoneworldwhen you say other medications can you be a lil more specific? I’m just curious like no pre/probiotics? No ACV? Poultry cell? Are these medications or just concentrate nutrients? Idk cinnamon garlic electrolytes? I do so much for my chickens lol all natural if possible feed them scrambled eggs on a regular basis too 🤗 spend a lot of my time out with my chickens on my property most days I would say probably more then most people do. But still have the occasional issue every once in a while that’s not predator related & just can’t seem to put my finger on it. & even tho a neighbors daughter is an avian vet she’s 6 hours away so isn’t any help sadly. Wouldn’t know where to get a checkup or any tests done in my area 🤷🏻♂️ just got me in a panick bc I love my birds so much lol that being said the 2 coldest months of the year I had more eggs then anyone I’ve talked to with chickens and unbelievable amount for the number of birds so it’s really hard to pinpoint what the problem is “if there is one”
@@baddogcustoms7496 natural things like cinnamon garlic and acv are fine. Its other prescribed medications that should not be mixed.
Look up colloidal silver! It’s a natural antibiotic that was around long ago before antibiotics today came about. They don’t build up resistance from it either.
How do you dose Colodial Silver for chickens
@@joyadams507 I’ve read it’s just a few drops in their water or one drop in their mouth daily for a few days.
I use this!
Thank you for this info.
@@eenuh4 Can you explain more about how you use it and how? Thanks
Thank you, that was better information than I got from an Avian Vet!
This was extremely helpful. Thank you for such an informative video. 👍🏾🙂
Fantastic information and very much appreciated! Just subscribed. Again, thank you and bless!!
Thank you for subscribing! I'm glad you found it helpful!
I haven't had any issues with mine, but great information to keep in mind.
That sucks! We had a run in with a respiratory issue and Mareks a few years back, also from bringing in some adult chickens. We sent to the lab for testing, but nothing conclusive regarding the respiratory issue unfortunately (but at least negative for AI and ILT). We made the hard decision to cull our entire flock and let the land rest. It was really hard, but many were dying and not thriving, so for us it was the best. This year we've started again, hatching eggs only (which unfortunately doesn't help with mycoplasma, but at least eliminates other diseases). So far they are doing well, but I am still anxious! All the best for your flock ❤
I bet that was hard to have to cull your flock, although completely understandable when dealing with Mareks! So far our flock is pretty healthy with the exception of a couple that have had some sneezing and raspy breathing, although even that has started to get better with the medication. So hopefully we will be able to maintain that going forward. I also wish you all the best with your new flock!
Hello! Where did you get your hatching eggs? If you didn't get them from your own chickens, why do you think they have MG? Just curious. Thanks
@@samantharoseman4206 the new chickens we got were a year or more old. We got them from the same person we got our original flock from a few years ago. Three of the new chickens that we got this time had issues, and one died which I had tested at the lab. That new rooster that died lab tests came back that it had MS and MG.
Thank you. 1 month into my first flock one of my buff orpingtons has a foamy eye and is sneezing after a cold snap. This video is very informative and helpful. Really sad my flock has this, and I bought these two orpingtons from a very reputable breeder in Ontario Canada.
Sorry to hear about your flock, although I'm glad the information in the video was helpful. Most backyard breeders or small breeders don't test for it, so in some cases may not even know that its in the flock. Large breeders (like Tractor Supply) do test for it. I wish you the best with managing it.
So glad i found this video. I have 7 original chickens and just bought tractor supply out the day before Easter including turkeys. We got one free which had supposedly an issue during shipping with their leg being dislocated. After a time being in a box with another turkey both were lame. Lost those 2 and now we have one more becoming lame. I just ordered some of this off amazon and will be using asap. Thanks so much for sharing.
Sorry to hear that you lost 2. I have read that Mycoplasma can be a lot harder on turkeys. Its also hard too, because there are several diseases in poultry that have similar symptoms. I wish you the best of luck with your flock!
Became buying from corporations all mine died
Thank you, I know you did this video awhile back, but I’ve had birds for 10 yrs, I’ve had Marek’s and Respiratory, I have a poultry vet and treated the whole flock, however only a few had any symptoms, what I would like to add, is that I have added to my flock, but ensure that I follow strict bio security, and quarantine. So you can and may add to your flock.
It is manageable. I have lost some and have others that been fine with it being in the flock for over 2 years now. My personal preference is just to wait it out until this flock is gone and then start over without having to deal with it. All but three of my chickens are older now (some of which are even past laying), so I think in the next couple of years I'll be able to start MG free.
Thanks for your video!!! You helped me a lot!!! Because I didn’t know what to do, in 3 days my cockerel began to fall down, coughed, sneezed, began to walk badly .. I was advised to buy an Antibiotic, but they didn’t have a Tractor. and suddenly I saw your video on UA-cam and immediately ordered drugs from Amazon..what else helped my rooster's vitamin complex ..what else helped my rooster vitamin complex Nutri Drench..this complex helped him to hold out until the medicine ...
I'm glad the video helped! Have you confirmed that the rooster has MS or MG (the two types of mycoplasma). The one problem with mycoplasma is that the symptoms are similar to many other things that chickens can get, so without a lab test you wouldn't know for sure. I hope your flock does well and stays healthy!
thank you that was very good of you to share this with others!
Very thankful for your video, u seem like a good person, may god bless u brother
Thank you!
Thanks for the info. What do you santize the coop and run with.
After the flock is gone you would just let the run remain dormant for a couple of months or more and rake out and remaining feathers and poop and dispose of it. For the coop you could probably use just water with a small amount of bleach in it. Although there may be other better products available.
Which is why you should quarantine all new animals before the are introduced into your farm
Mine were separated for several months, but unfortunately they were still in close proximity (my run is separated in two areas with two separate coops). But I don't have an area where I can separate far enough to block something like MG. But agreed that any new chickens brought in should be separated for a while for multiple reasons.
Treating our large backyard flock with your recommendation, thank you! Curious if with the recommendations it helped their egg production bounce back as well. Lack of egg production is one of our symptoms.
I will say with mine it was hard to tell, because half my flock is older and doesn't lay as much anyway. Some of the issues also came about during molting time and/or winter, so they weren't really laying much then either! I will say that this past spring (after almost a year of dealing with MG and treatments) I pretty much had full normal laying from even the older girls. So overall, I would say that it did help with the egg production. It just took a while for me being able to tell!
Thank you very much for your reply! This was a very helpful video for us.
Well.... thanks for the info. I have 30+ chickens. The last bunch I bought at auction brought along this wonderful bacteria
Oh no. That's similar to what happened to me with the new batch of birds I got in the spring were infected. Since making this video I've lost two birds from MG complications. The Denagard cleared up the symptoms in two others. The rest of mine seem to fine. Once its in the flock, many birds will be carriers but never show any symptoms. I wish you the best of luck with dealing with it. It definitely sucks to have it in your flock, but it can be manageable if you choose to keep them.
@@oneseedoneworld I learned today about Tylan antibiotics as well. I believe I will alternate monthly treatments. It's my luck I would develop the super plasmas.
@@stephencarlisle6339 I prefer the Denagard over Tylan for the Mycoplasma, since over time I believe chickens can build up a resistance to Tylan which makes it less effective. In a couple of studies I read, Denagard didn't have that resistance build up so it stayed effective. Plus with Denagard there isn't any egg withdrawal. But I know a lot of chicken owners that have used the Tylan 50 with good results.
@stephencarlisle6339 I think Tylan 50 its an injection, and not for drinking, right? Or maybe someone did try it to dissolve in water for chickens to drink?
The chicks hatched and were brooded indoors. Sanitize EVERYTHING. Then two males developed splay leg. One at 3 weeks and one at 13 weeks.
The rest of the flock is ok so far.
I have worked so hard to build a great program. I practiced biosecurity and only brought in hatching eggs! I protect them from outside birds and sanitize everything. Guess we will call the state lab for testing.
UPDATE: Breeder shipped birds out of country and had them tested for everything. We may just be dealing with poor absorption. Sigh of relief here!
Also, been researching benefits of colloidal silver for MS treatment. Might be an inexpensive game changer for wormer and all things chicken 💜
Ours came from a "reputable breeder" as well. The unfortunate thing is so far there is no requirement for testing for MG or MS for breeders. If you have a vet or lab that can test for you, I would definitely recommend it. There are multiple types of things that chickens can get that have similar symptoms, so unless tested, you can't be sure its mycoplasma. Some things that have similar symptoms can be treated and gotten rid of. I'm sorry you are dealing with sick chickens, and I hope you can get it resolved, or at the very least manageable.
Splay legs are often a vitamin deficiency.. try a supplement maybe.
Thank you so so much for taking the time to share this with us
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching!
@oneseedoneworld I just bought 2 pullets and one of the eyes on one swelled a bit and was shut the next morning. Was supposed to get 4 but the other 2 had an eye that was swollen shut also. She said it was probably nothing but a simple symptom of a respatory infection. Could that be mycoplasma? That's the only symptom. Thanks.
@@Question-all It is possible, but hard to tell with out a test. Swollen eyes can be one of the symptoms, but swollen eyes can also be caused by eye worm, or other diseases.
I'm sorry about your flock! thank you for the video
Thanks for this video, it’s really helpful.
great video - thank you so much for denagard info.
Thank you, glad it was helpful! Hope all goes well with your flock!
Thanks for all of this great information.
This was amazing information and thank you for sharing I was just wondering what I should do if I don’t use nipple water feeders or anything of that sort I just use a hanging cup for their water cause my flock is 2 hens and 1 rooster so I don’t need that much I was just wondering on how much denagard would I put or if I would have to use a water feeder when I use the treatment
I use 2 TBLSP per gallon, so you could just scale that back to fit a smaller container. You don't have to use a hanging feeder. I just have a big water dish that sits on the ground for mine, and I just change it out everyday.
One additional note is that I found my chickens prefer apple juice concentrate mixed in over the sugar, some chickens can be picky :)
Thank you so very much for sharing this!
Ty for the video/ great information..i have a young rooster that i just noticed is drooling profusely.. this newest flock of 7 are young and aren't getting the food like the older flock because of the older flock running them off.. not sure if he is just filled up on water, or if it's sour crop.. just researching but, ty for the info on micro and deneguard
Drooling is most likely sour crop, at least with my experience with it. Hope you can get him feeling back up to par again! I'm glad you found this info helpful, thanks for commenting!
Thank you. Very good vedio
Thank you!
good poultry pathology cauded by mycoplasma # i will check whether this anti biotic is produced & marketed in Pakistan Karachi # 👍🇵🇰
Thank you sincerely for the best source of info I’ve found online from someone who is managing this first hand ❤️ I’m concerned that I brought a pair of turkey poults in with mycoplasma. One became very sick, gaping, stumbling, never grew, swollen airsac and then died after about 10 days. Initially, after one orange tinged dropping, I thought it was coccidiosis so I treated with Toltrazuril to no avail.
However, the other poult has grown strong, no signs of sickness, absolutely zero issues. Is this possible with mycoplasma? Could one clearly exposed bird never show any symptoms? They were the only two birds in a quarantined brooder. I have 3 brooders in my house right now and have NO place else to keep my other chicks but in the house in separate rooms. Desperately trying to keep this from spreading 😞 Also, not sure what to do with this lonely turkey 😞 I will get them tested but I’d love to hear if this is possible with mycoplasma. Thank you so very much! ❤️
Sorry to hear you are dealing with this as well! Yes, some birds can be carriers and never show any symptoms. I have several chickens in my flock that have yet to show any issues (and this is after two years since it first arrived with the new chickens). It is a pain to deal with, and some birds will die, but it can be managed with treatments and also feeding your chickens/turkeys anything that will boost their immune systems helps too. Many times mycoplasma can just make other underlying issues worse, so the stronger the immune systems the better chance they have.
@@oneseedoneworld thank you for your very quick input, I value it so very much. Well shoot.. I guess I have the opportunity now to seriously consider the 40 chickens outside who hopefully have not been exposed. Sharing your daily struggles & losses with this could not be more powerful. I spend hours daily tinkering & improving the life of my chickens, they are my greatest joy. I can’t bear the thought of starting that battle knowing the cost. Thank you ❤️
@@Tanya-jl6rd It is a challenge. I had some die pretty quick after the new ones came with the disease.. Others got sick and then better with treatment, and others never had an issue. I'm down to 7 now and not getting anymore until these are all gone. 4 of the 7 are older and don't really even lay much anymore, but I still love each of them. I wish you the best with yours!
Thank you, I wish you all of the best with yours too! I will follow your content elsewhere 😊 it’s a great resource to find folks who share the hard parts of keeping these little feathered buddies. Thank you for your time 😊
Thank you for the info. I thought culling was my only option and it was saddening to me. I will be using denegard moving forward. Do you use it forever? Once a month ?
Yes, one treatment a month for 3-5 days. Although I don't do it every month myself. I do treatments when symptoms flare up. In the beginning of the summer I had two hens that were sneezing constantly, so I did a treatment then. Within 3 days they were fine. Then this past week I had one that was having trouble walking, so I started another round of Denagard. By the 4th day, she was back to running around normally with the other girls. Best of luck with your girls!
@@oneseedoneworld can you explain “trouble walking” did their hock joint get swollen or feet? Did it present as a splay leg?
@@CCteamBlue They didn't have swelling. It was more extreme weakness. Like they couldn't hold weight, would stumble, or go just a few steps and plop down and not be able to stand back up.
How long should I let the run/dirt rest before bringing in new hens, will cull and raise chicks through the winter. Hoping lots of rain and cold will get the disease out of the pen/run.
Thorough cleaning and drying out of the coop, and then disinfection with bleach. Leave the coop and run bird free for several weeks (hot, dry weather is optimal) before restocking with new birds.
Thank you, I found your video very informative. My 10 yr old son bought 17 chicks with his birthday money from a backyard breeder. Unfortunately, they were ill chick and only 7 chicks are still alive. We have tried 2 different antibiotics, which helped 6 chicks but the 1 chick remains ill. Our vet mentioned that it may be mycoplasma and that the humane option would be euthanasia. 😔
So sorry to hear this. That has to be especially hard for your son! Culling the entire flock can be an option, and then starting over again (although you do have to make sure the coop is sanitized and the entire area should probably be left for a month or two to clear out any remaining possible infection. The other option is what I do, keep the birds that remain and treat as necessary. Some birds will only be carriers and never have symptoms. But then you also can't add any more birds to your flock. I wish breeders were required to test for MG prior to selling, but unfortunately so far that is not the case. Whatever you choose, I hope you're able to get through it ok, and that your son will not be turned off to having chickens after such a rough first experience.
Need an update on how your birds are doing since you’ve done this
Its been almost a year since we first got the infected chickens. Since then I had 6 chickens out of 12 get sick. 3 died (2 older chickens and one of the new ones that came with the MG). 3 others that had a lot of respiratory issues (sneezing, wheezing, etc) got better with 1 to 3 treatments of the Denagard. I now only treat if issues arise, but haven't seen any more issues since around October. I also adopted 3 bantams last August that were found in the woods. They have not had any issues so far. Some birds will never exhibit any signs and will just be carriers of the disease.
With some of your flock getting healthier, did it also help them produce eggs again?
@@VK-xc4bj This past spring and summer my flock produced eggs normally. They aren't doing much right now due to molting and winter coming on though.
My flock has Mycoplasma MS and in just so sad that no matter what I do I keep randomly loosing one every other month. They did 21 days of antibiotics prescribed by the Vet and I also used VetRX on them almost daily. Yet I have a few sneezing badly and having respiratory! Issues. I haven’t tried Denaguard but that’s what I’ll be doing next thanks to your video, any other tips other than the Deneguard every month? I have been giving them vitamins in their food and water and sometimes plain Greek yogurt as well. Did you ever tried colloidal silver? What do you do if one of them gets really bad with sneezing droplets and struggling to breathe? Thanks 🙏🏻
At the time I am watching your video, one of the sick roosters is having a rasp breathing problem. Like you, we treat our flocks as pets and give them names so selling and slaughtering them is out of question.
Sorry to hear about your rooster. Hope you are able to treat him and mitigate the issue.
@@oneseedoneworld Thank you.
We already buried 9-10 of them. Some begin to show signs of recovery, some are beginning to suffer from it and this particular rooster starts to breathe with a little ease. I hope he recovers tomorrow.
@@sugiantoyusuf5229 So sorry to hear that. I have lost a few of mine over the years and three last year to the mycoplasma. I wish you the best of luck with your flock!
I am so disappointed with my two new girls. I drove quite a ways to get them. I didn't notice unti after i got them home that their beaks were trimmed. One looks to be growing back ok, but i am afraid the poor hen that's sick may have a cross beak condition. Its a shame she is so sweet. I put garlic in her water unti the Denegard gets here and it seems to be helping. I would advise having it on hand before you need it. I am not experienced to give an injection, and this is the only oral antibiotic i have found so far.
One of the chickens I got in the spring had a beak trimmed as well, and I believe it was done to hide crossbeak (although I immediately noticed it). This is the 2nd hen I've had with crossbeak, and both have done fine with eating and drinking as the crossbeak while noticeable, wasn't overly severe. The first one that had crossbeak lived for almost 4 years without issue from the crossbeak.
I wish you the best with yours!
Why can i not find it in the feed stores such as TSC?
@@Cityhomesteaders727 Not sure why they don't carry it. I always get mine from Amazon, but there are a couple of other pet supply places online that carry it also (Valley Vet Supply, PBS Animal Health).
Hit with this and pox at the same time. Tropics for; especially when wild chickens are everywhere.
That's rough! I hope you have some success with managing it.
I'm wondering if I have the start of mycoplasma in my flock but I haven't had the one chicken tested yet her only thing is I noticed she had bubbly stuff on the one side of one eye I noticed it one night when I was putting them to bed but and I separated her . Theres no other symptoms at all and the next day it wasn't as much and even I didn't see it at all but then saw some a bit later but not much so idk if it's mycoplasma or something else . Your vid has great info too
The foamy eye can be a symptom of mycoplasma, although they also could have just some irritation. Without testing its hard to know for sure since so many different things with chickens have similar symptoms.
@oneseedoneworld I hope it's something else and not mycoplasma but she went to the vet this morning and got a stool sample, antibiotics and eye cream so tomorrow I'll know for sure what it is !
@@ayu4ever78 Best of luck!
How are the chickens now?
Since this all started a year and a half ago, I did lose three chickens. Two of those were sick initially and got better after treatment, but over time did have more flareups that they finally succumbed to. Three other of the initial ones that came with the disease got better and have had no other issues. The other chickens in my flock that were here originally along with the three bantams I rescued are all doing fine.
Great job!👍
From what my veterinarian stated ok to eat the eggs but not for meat when they have this disease
My understanding is that mycoplasmosis does not affect humans, so the meat would be safe to eat. However if you were treating the disease with Denagard or other medical treatments, you would not want to cull the birds for eating for several days after treatment. For me, I don't eat my birds, only use them for eggs, so I can't speak from personal experience, only from studies I have read on the subject.
Thanks for the information, i hate it but that is nature 😢. I am using antibiotics at the moment. But I fear the worst. 😢
Hello my girl started to wheeze and has lost weight, was lethargic and her breathing sounded really congested. No eye swelling, or heavy nasal discharge just occasional sneezing but a lot wheezing.I’ve been treating her with penicillin and safeguard for about a week. She has improved some but it’s not herself, I want to try Denagard but I was wondering if could share a dose not for water but to feed her orally, I have 1 ml and 0.5 ml that I can measure and give it to her so I make sure she gets the same amount everyday at the same time. Also how do the vet test for Mycoplasma??? Stool sample?
What are your thoughts on oregano oil?
Thanks for making such a great video. I will save this video for future reference. I subscribed. Thanks for your response.
It is not recommended to give chickens undiluted Denegard or the daily dose all at once. Since the disease is so contagious, it is best to treat the whole flock instead of just one chicken even if they don't show symptoms. 1 TBS per gallon of water for treatment, although if just doing as a preventive you can use about half that. Denagard is pretty strong and bitter, so it is best to dilute in water and add some sugar (although more recently I found that my chickens prefer it with a diluted apple juice and water solution).
Vets test for mycoplasma with a blood sample or a throat swab.
I have not used oregano oil myself, although I do feed my chickens fresh oregano from the garden from time to time. Oregano oil can help strengthen their immune systems to help them fight various poultry diseases.
I hope you can get your girl back to healthy again! With my flock, Denagard helped some and not others. Sometimes there are other underlying things that you may not be aware of that are exacerbated by the addition of mycoplasma.
Hi I was wondering after the chickens get better can you put them back with the others or do they have to stay separate?
MG can't be cured, you can only mitigate the symptoms, so they always will be contagious. Besides keeping them separate, you also need to wear separate clothing/shoes, separate tools, etc before handling chickens that have not been affected. Hopefully you are able to keep them very far apart.
Excellent information sir, much appreciated!
Hi there, Great video! I have subscribed! We gave our flock Ivermectin pour on 1 week ago to treat the flock for mites, lice & worms. Do you know when it would be safe for us to use the Denagard for respiratory illness? I’m almost certain that our flock has Mycoplasma. 1 hen is showing really bad symptoms (coughing, gurgling, open mouth breathing, diarrhea etc).
Thank you for subscribing! Sorry to hear your chickens are having a rough time. I dont have personal experience with Ivermectin, so I can't say for sure. I did read that Ivermectin should not be used in combination with other medicines, and while egg withdrawal is not required, at least 7 days is recommended. Just based on that I would wait at least a week, but would recommend checking with a local vet for more solid confirmation. Sorry that I don't have a more definitive answer for you, but I wish you the best of luck with your flock!
Thank you for all your firsthand honest info! I enjoy watching your chicken videos. Your calm demeanor has helped me not to panic a couple times now. I am going to order the generic Denagard thru your link. Thank you for sharing.
Sounds like your chicken might have had gape worm.
@@Luckyt2173 update on your chickens?
Unfortunately so many people don’t understand this or care enough to test their flock or keep good hygiene. I’ve been so worried about this, I’m still looking into what it could be but all my birds have randomly started sneezing and almost “barking” but like a high pitched single cluck, like if a raspy chihuahua were to bark.
I hope your flock does ok. If it is MG it can't be cured, but can be managed.
So if the bird is infected and you don't treat it, is the meat still good for human consumption?
Yes, mycoplasma does not affect humans. I dont use my birds for meat, but all the research I've done on it, the only time you need to hold off on using the meat is after the treatment. If not treating the meat is fine.
How did you come up with the dosing amount? Thanks 🙏
A combination of info provided by vet websites, poultry medicine supply sites and chicken forums. Additionally I have been treating my flock for it for over a year now using these dosages.
@@oneseedoneworld thank you so very much! Have you ever used Colloidal Silver in your management?
@@joyadams507 I haven't myself, although I have read of some that do.
Thank you so much for your video, I'm very upset, because I keep quails and chickens and my quails got sick a month ago and unfortunately it's mycoplasma. Since than I keep them in my room and I change shoes when I go out to the garden or to clean the chicken coop, but can't change clothes everytime I'm going out of my room :( So my question is what else can I do to protect my chickens from this bacteria? For me they're like pets, I love my quails too, I can't kill them and I wouldn't kill my chickens if they would get it but I don't know if there is any chance they won't catch it. I have 3 chickens and unfortunately one of them is already sneezing now and one has diarrhea. It's such a strange disease, because 3 of my quails showed symptoms and all of them died within 3 weeks but 2 of them has no symptoms at all. Is this infection take so much time to hit or will they remain asymptomatic? Unfortunately there is no Denagard in my country, so I try to treat them with Tylan. I've ordered Gale of the Wind tea so I'll make a tea for them, I've read it is effective against mycoplasma.
So sorry to hear of the issues you are experiencing. Some birds will just be carriers and never show any symptoms. I have several like that. I have had some with the sneezing, etc., that cleared up with treatment, and never had a problem again, others need treatment from time to time, and others unfortunately will succumb to the disease. Since you don't have access to Denegard, the Tylan may help, and anything you can do to boost your flocks immune system can be helpful as well (oregano and other herbs, dried hot pepper flakes, etc.) Some viewers suggested colloidal silver, although I don't have any experience with that myself, so you would need to research that more on dosage, etc. Additionally, I think some of the things you are doing like changing shoes, etc., can help reduce spread, and just try and be as careful as you can with any cross contamination. It is hard to deal with at times, but can be manageable to an extent. I wish you the best of luck with your chickens and quails!
Do you think the sparrows that I hear in the background will carry it to neighboring flocks?
Wild birds can carry the disease, but it would be difficult to know whether they were or not in your area.
what should I do? Give me advice please help me!! Can you tell me... I bought little Bentham roosters from the market place. I already had my chickens, but I didn’t keep them with my chickens, They were separately in a different cage, can my chickens get infected???...
Did the new roosters have Mycoplasma? It does travel very easily. To avoid cross contamination to your existing flock the new roosters would have to be kept completely separate in an area far enough away from them where feathers, feces, etc., couldn't reach them. Additionally, you would need to sanitize any tools, clothes and shoes you use/wear before going from one flock to the other, as it can travel on your shoes, clothes and tools.
So we have had a majoj problem with microplasm. Our first symptom was with lack of egg production which i which i wish i saw this video before the second symptom; death! We've lost a total of 13 chickens in 2 weeks. I ordered the Trigard version and am going to start the rest of my flock asap. Are the precautions that need to be taken, the same as the name brand version?
So sorry about the issues you are having and losing so many chickens! I hope you can get it under control with treatment. Yes use the same precautions for the generic or name brand versions.
I had a very healthy flock ,but bought from a girl for more chickens,and ive had to deal with sick chickens of 9 so been treating them on meds for 2 months of coughing ,sneezing,runny noses,and ive been to vets that arent chicken vets but perscribed amoxicillin then it got worse lost 4 and went to another vet and he perscribed tetracycline,it really helped and i did order tiaguard ,so its been so hot and dry here ,but ive noticed 2 of my hens have swollen faces ond 1 has tiny bubbles in her eyes so now what do i do ,i just watched your video and they just came off sulfadimethoxine after they were on the tetracycline, and now i got some recovery 911 for electrolytes and vitamins and oregano to replenish things in their bodies so ive not used their eggs now for 2 months my poor girls seem like theyve been on meds so long,so now with the foamy eye on one do i give tiagard to them again which is a generic form of denagard, ugh i feel like i let my poor hens down ,their my beautiful pets and im doing the best i can ,im new to all this ,please any advice would be great
I'm sorry you are having to go through all this! And you ended up with it the same way we did. I wish they would require breeders/sellers to test for it.
It sounds like you are doing everything possible to help mitigate it and then some. You could try the tiagard one more time. I had one girl that required a couple of rounds two different times.
There are some that respond well to the treatments, others may only respond for a short time or not at all. I have had experience with both. Some of my girls cleared right up after the first couple days of treatment and haven't had a problem since. Others struggled for a while and needed more treatments over the course of a couple months or so, and I had some that didn't make it at all. I hope your flock can work through the worst of it and that you can get to the point where you can start using eggs again!
I too am currently dealing with this. I’m on east coast in NC. Our vet said they have seen large increases in respiratory issues but we got ours the same way. Adding new adult birds😢. I’m devastated. We’ve lost 5 of 24 already and am fairly certain we will lose more. We are awaiting necropsy results but the suspicion is MG. We quarantined for 6 weeks before adding to the flock but as they can be carriers we are fairly certain the stress once combined brought it out and infected our entire flock. Our vet put ours on tylan soluble in waterers and for the swollen eyes and faces we have terramycin ointment.
@@jacksonsworld3266 Hopefully your flock will work through it with the treatments. I lost three initially, but since then the flock has done ok and symptoms pop up rarely.
Hello, and thank you for your vid. Relly nice coop. I have about 28 chickens with 5 little ones and three rosters. I just noticed one of my birds about 10 months old that was fathered by the silky rooster and a white Hin has swollen feet with no sore on the bottom. I was told it could be hereditary. Would you know, if that is the case, how soon the feet would swell after they are hatched. The Hin and Silky roster do not have swollen feet. Then, about a day or two later I noticed another chicken from the same Brode is now getting swollen feet.
I have separated the two but have treated only with a Epson salt soak and colloidal Silver.
The toes and pads are swollen.
What do I do. If I treated with the Denagard and it turned out to be an infection from a cut would the medication do harm. From what I can tell is they are not sneezing, no runny eyes. and don't sound congested.
It's Bumble foot, a bacterial infection or what your spoke of.
Don't know what to do?
Thank you for your time.
I don't know about the hereditary part. Are both feet swollen? Bumblefoot can mimic other leg and foot issues. The early warning signs of bumblefoot are hard puffy scabs that may look like small blisters. Also I don't know if it would show up on both feet in two chickens, so it sounds like it could be something else. But if the chickens are walking and acting normal, then it may, as you mentioned, just be hereditary. Denegard wouldn't hurt them, but I cannot say it would be necessary to treat them with it either if the only thing they have is swollen feet. There are so many different things that chicken can get and many of them have very similar symptoms, so sometimes its hard to tell without testing. Do you have a vet in your area that treats chickens?
Thank you for getting back to me. Yes, both feet are swollen, and they have a yellow circle like mark but not lesion on the tops of their feet. Anyway, really appreciate all your efforts.
Can you use denegard as a preventative or just when they are sick. Can ducks drink water with denegard? Any side effects?
From what I have read, people do use it for ducks. although I can't speak to any detailed info on that. You can use Denagard as a preventative. Use half dosage for preventative for 3 to 5 days. I did not experience any side affects in my chickens, however there are some cases of chickens that can have hypersensitivity to this medication, so if you notice issues stop dosage immediately. Don't combine with high doses of the anticoccidials monensin, narasin, or salinomycin (mixing these medicines with Denagard can cause illness/death). Daily dose must be given gradually over time--not all at once nor in a single meal. Never give undiluted or bird's system may react with extreme gagging or other symptoms.
Also since making this video, I found that adding apple juice concentrate to the water worked the best for my girls (since the medicine tastes so bad, they might avoid drinking. Adding sugar to the water (as mentioned in the video) did work, but the apple juice concentrate worked the best. I just mix one container of the apple juice concentrate in with 2 gallons of water along with the dosage of Denagard. I now have a mix of bantams and regular size hens, so now I just do half dosage whenever I need to use it to make sure the littles don't get too much.
I got a couple of new chicks that were hatched recently. Now worried because i discovered one of the chickens in my flock has MG disease. If I separate the new chicken, will they be safe from MG forever?
It is possible, but they would have to be far enough away. MG can be carried on clothes, shoes, tools, etc. So you would need to change and sanitize the clothes and shoes you wore when working with affected chickens before going to the non affected area. Even then there would still be a chance it could spread if something was missed. It is unfortunately a highly contagious disease in chickens. The good news is that it can be manageable with medicine, and some birds never even show symptoms at all. Out of 14 birds, I had 2 die and 3 others that had varying symptoms that cleared when they received a monthly dose of Denagard. The remaining 9 birds haven't had any issues at all so far. With some, the MG can aggravate an underlying issue that you may have been unaware of, but if your birds are healthy there is a good chance they can live for years like normal chickens without an issue. You just have to be cautious to not spread to other flocks once you are aware your flock has it.
Hi , you mentioned that you took your deceased chicken to a lab to get tested, how do I find a place to take mine and how costly is it. I'm in LA area and is hard enough to fin a vet that treats chickens.
You might be able to check with local vet and see if they can recommend a place. The lab I went to handles all kinds of testing for animals, even large animals like cows, horses, etc. The cost here for a necropsy I think was $40 and then an additional $30 for the histology. I know that is pricey for a chicken, but for me it was worth it to see what I was dealing with for the rest of my flock. Plus the lab tests are much more extensive and provide detailed reports that a vet couldn't do. I did find this website that lists necropsy labs by state, so maybe this will help give you some direction for your area. www.heritageacresmarket.com/poultry-necropsy-labs/
How much sugar do you add to the I've gallon of water? Sorry if someone already asked this and it was answered
I don't remember the amount I used initially, although I think it may have been a 1/4 cup. Over time though I have switched to using one container of frozen apple juice concentrate mixed with 2 gallons of water instead of the sugar. My chickens seemed to prefer that when they were getting their treatments.
First time hearing about this
That's a good thing. Hopefully you won't ever have to deal with it.
Have a flock of 40 took in a roo. Two months ago and. Lost two hens. Signs were the same, right leg limping getting worse after 3 weeks. Now a 3rd hen starting to limp..😢😢
Sorry you're having issues with the flock. The Denagard might help. I had one with walking issues that cleared up within 3 days if treatment.
Hi if I have a hen that sneezes from time to time and has some discharged from one side and eye, can this be micoplasma
Its possible, since those are some of the symptoms. The issue is that there are other problems that can cause this as well, such as dust/irritation. However if it continues, you may need to consider having them tested (if you have a vet that will do it nearby).
I have just encountered mycoplasma in poultry and a situation worrying
Sorry to hear that. It can be managed, but it is worrying and can reduce over all flock egg laying, health and longevity. I wish you the best with working through it!
Can you treat ducks also since you want to treat everyone ?
Yes, Valbazen can be used on ducks as well. I don't raise ducks, and I did have a hard time finding exact info for dosage for ducks. I did find this on one forum though: "Valbazen: .08 mls per pound of duck. For a 5 lb duck that would be .4mls. (can round up to .5 for ease of use) Given once and then 10 days later given one more time." Hope that helps!
@@oneseedoneworld what about tiagard generic for Denagard?
@@paisleyramirez7206 I have not used it myself, but know a lot of people have used it successfully with chickens. You'll probably want to double check dosages, but it should work the same way.
So how do you cure you’re backyard ?
Once the flock is gone you would make sure and remaining feathers, feces, etc. is cleaned up and disposed of. The let the yard/run lay dormant for a couple of months (and sanitize the coop) prior to getting new chickens.
Do you know if water like flooding can kill the bacteria in the soil? I also read a second hand comment that without any host the bacteria will die after 72 hours. Don't know if that is true. It is very hard to get info on this subject.
Hello, could you please tell me if you've had any experience with swelling in the feet, ankle(s), and/or hock(s) that can happen with MS and if so, did the Denagard help at all? If not, do you think it would help if that's the only symptom and they're acting perfectly normal otherwise? I realize there is no cure, but if there's anything at all that can be done to keep it under control and from worsening, that would be GREAT. Any and all advice/recommendations would be greatly appreciated, including natural remedies (internal/topical). Thank you in advance for your time.
I have not had any issue with foot swelling with MS/MG. That sounds like it could be Bumblefoot. Bumblefoot can be caused when they get an infection from bacteria which can happen if they have had an injury, or irritation from poor litter management.
You can get antibiotics for treatment from a vet, and you can also soak their feet in warm water with epsom salts. While dealing with it, separate the affected chickens and change their bedding daily. i don't have affiliation with them, but Azure Farm has a more detailed article on Bumblefoot and treatment here: www.azurefarmlife.com/farm-blog/2022/1/20/treatment-for-bumblefoot-in-chickens-naturally-and-surgically#:~:text=Wrap%20your%20chicken%20securely%20in,the%20kernel%20without%20aggressive%20intervention.
I’m trying colloidal silver for a swollen hock. Safer than abx.
I have three chickens who all have a swollen hock and are limping. That’s the only symptom. Otherwise they look completely normal. I and wondering if its infectious synovitis. They started limping about 10 days apart. The one who started limping four weeks ago now just looks wobbly on her feet. It’s a s if the hocks give way under her. Is that what your chickens did?
I think my rooster has ms for awhile I thought it was mareks but not all the symptoms fit, scaly leg mites did not look right. But ms fits perfectly. Is it contagious?
That's one issue with a lot of the chicken issues is that so many of them have similar symptoms. But yes MS and MG are both super contagious, can travel on your shoes, tools, clothes, and generally if one chicken has it, then all of them will have it. Just some aren't as affected with symptoms as others. But the only way to know for sure is to have the flock tested.
How did you test? I'm looking for the most cost effective way to confirm whether this is mycoplasma making my chicken sick.
We had got a new rooster that suddenly died after only having him two weeks. So I took him to a local lab and they did a necropsy and histology which is where I found out about mine. But if you have a local vet that handles chickens, they can test live chickens with a tracheal swab. Generally, if one chicken has it, you can figure that the rest of the flock does too, since it is so contagious among birds.
Will they live a long normal life or will their life be shorten even with the treatment?
Some can. It will will really depend on the bird. Some will be carriers and never show any signs of illness. Others will need treatment from time to time, and others won't make it. I have 4 birds that are five years old now that have it and my other birds are 2 to 3 years old.
how do i get my chickens tested for this
Some vets (if they handle poultry) will do either a blood test or a swap test. Some counties have labs that will do it as well for a fee.
How long does it take to start working
I normally see results in 1 to 3 days depending on the issue.
Can this help with bird flu
Unfortunately not, Denagard is primarily used for mycoplasma strains MG and MS. I don't have experience with bird flu, so I'm not sure what treatments they use for that.
I am clueless. 8 chicken flock. 8months old. One chicken only with rt eye shut , hoarseness & lethargic since Sat afternoon. Eating mealwroms only with enthusiasm sunday. Sav A Chik on water, isolated. Some loose stools. Not perching. TSC said eye infection so using teramycin. Shes not getting better. Any advice? Sat was very windy witb the eclipse. Help!
I'm sorry your chicken is going through this! Its hard to tell, because there are several different diseases chickens can get that have similar symptoms, and you can't know for sure without a lab test (for live chickens, normally done by a vet with a swab test). You could try the denagard, but can't say for sure if that would mitigate the issue. Its good they are eating the meal worms on their own, but the hoarseness, swollen eye and not perching is concerning. Do you have a local vet that sees chickens?
@@oneseedoneworld NOT sure about a vet I'll check. Her eye isn't swollen at ALL. Just will only open it every now and again. I did order some just because it seems like a good idea. I got 2 drops of Vetrx in her mouth a few minutes ago & she immediately perked up a bit, ate really good & drank. Yea!
@@sherrylwalker9344 Well thats a good sign. I hope she continues to improve!
@oneseedoneworld She is doing much better this morning after 2x VetRx treatments Yesterday. Trying to use her voice & laid a normal egg. I have her in the mancave/garage
I would use oil of oregano
Oil of oregano definitely helps with boosting their immunity, but may not curb more extreme symptoms. But regular feedings using oregano and other herbs, hot pepper flakes, etc may give them a better chance overall.
Thank for the info do you recommend vaccination because I know there’s vaccine
I haven't looked into a vaccine. For my smaller flock it probably wouldn't be cost effective.
Is it contagious to ducks because I also have ducks and they are my babies.
Yes. Mycoplasma affects chickens, turkeys, game birds, pigeons and other wild birds. Ducks and geese can become infected when held with infected chickens, or from being exposed to infected items, feathers, or feces.
Well this sucks. I just went out and one of my hens has a swollen eye! So annoyed rn!
Hope she heals up quick for you! Could it possibly be an injury from another chicken?
I lost all my chickens 😭😭😭😭 i am distraught i could reminise about those days when they were just chicks when i brought them then they had chicks aswell then they started dying one by one
So sorry to hear you lost your flock. Losing pets is always so hard.
Will this help chicken canker?
No, Denagard would not be used for canker. Canker can be treated with Ronidazole (Ronnivet-S).
Is there a ground treatment?
Not that I am aware of. Since it travels on feathers, feces and even dust particles, I don't think a ground treatment would be very effective.
May the Lord be gracious ❤
Good sir, about how long does it take to see increase or normalizing egg production after chicken is stressed with this illnesses?
@@rhondaellerbe3463 I think it will probably vary depending on the hen and how affected they are by the disease. I had some that never stopped laying, others that stopped and started again a week or two after treatment, and others that started laying within just a couple of days after treatment completed. In my experience there wasn't a specific trend.
Im scared that my flock has it avian TB. TY For sharing. i will never kill my flock love them I have 17, , My 2 roosters that died started wasting away got so skinny,. no sneezes ,. vet gave me amoxcillian did xrays on 2 hens said lungs dark & shouldnt be so was somthing respertory. never said avian tb But now my leghorn fluffing up, tucking her head & not herself. & I have a silkie mix, a cochin bantam & another mix that are distancing from flock & not wanting to free range :( scares me. All eating. i dont see diareha. So the DENAGARD at TS IS NOT FOR CHICKENS? Which do i buy for ? My flock is 7 months old to 2.5 years old. I cant imagine losing them all but have lost 3 hens & 2 roosters in less than 2 years months apart. Im so scared!! Im in NC. 1/24/2024
I am sorry to hear you are going through this with your flock. There are several different diseases that chickens can get that have similar symptoms so it is hard to tell exactly what they may without lab tests. Denagard was not made originally for chickens, it is primarily used for treating pigs, which is why it would say at TS its not for chickens. However, Denagard has been used for years to treat chickens with different issues (primarily mycoplasma) they just get much smaller doses than the pigs do! I hope you can get your flock back to being healthy again!
I had to order it. Is there anything I can do to save my leg horn until it gets here? Stopped eating and acts like she doesn't wanna leave run. Scared. Tucks head fluffs up
@@zoemarialawson8943 You may have to do syringe feeding by mouth if they won't eat on their own. If you haven't done it before, there are some videos on UA-cam on how to safely do it. Generally some liquids with vitamins/electrolytes, watered down yogurt, etc. That can keep them hydrated and give them some nutrients.
@@oneseedoneworld I found a avian vet ! Appointment Monday. She will eat watermelon..blueberry and a little chicken food. Still sits alot tucks head.
@@zoemarialawson8943 Its good that she is eating some to help keep up strength. So glad you found an avian vet. Best of luck!
Can I use denaguard on whole flock even if not acting sick
Yes, since the disease is so contagious, you may have some that are carriers and never show signs of sickness. Just don't mix with any other medications. I haven't ever treated just one chicken. I just put it in the water as directed (and with apple cider concentrate or sugar to get rid of the bitter flavor) and put in the main waterer for all the chickens to drink from. That has worked best for me.
still no sneezing or lung issues Just lame left foot that started out in right foot & switched withing 24 hrs! maybe im not dealing with mareks! idk whats happening. @@oneseedoneworld
Will it only make a foot lame? @@oneseedoneworld
I got this stuff … but it dint work for my hen…😌
Sorry this didn't work for you. Sometimes there are underlying issues and the chicken can't be saved.
😢 Can you eat them? Can you rise chiks froom them & not be infected?
If they haven't been treated with medicine, yes you can eat them. Mycoplasma doesn't transfer to humans. If you have treated with Denagard or another type of medicine, you need to wait 10 days to 2 weeks before consuming the meat.
Chicks will most likely be infected since it transfers from the hen to the chick in the egg.
Can this be transferred to humans??
No. This disease affects chickens, turkeys and can be carried by wild birds. But doesn't affect humans.
can we eat their meat?
Yes as long as they aren't being treated with antibiotics or other medicines.
Any vaccine available
Yes there is a vaccine for chickens for mycoplasma if you have a vet that handles poultry.
And I have another question for u is bronchitis In chickens, the same as for close to microplasma
Bronchitis is something that can be healed up with proper treatment, where as the mycoplasma can not be gotten rid of (only managed).
@@oneseedoneworld I got a flock about 200 so it is convenient for me to vaccinate them and I did already order that product. Do you recommend and I am going to treat the whole flock with it
You lost me at step 1 😭
The worst part is when the chicken start going blind 😢 you just know death is days away
I fortunately have not run into an issue with blindness or even eye problems with my flock. The two issues I have dealt with is respiratory and walking issues. In both cases of walking issues, I ended up losing the hens, although with one, treatment to work for several months where they got better for a while and then it came back.
Give them 1 cc three days in a row of tylan 50 it will fix them
I prefer the Denagard over Tylan for the Mycoplasma, since over time I believe chickens can build up a resistance to Tylan which makes it less effective. In a couple of studies I read, Denagard didn't have that resistance build up so it stayed effective. Plus with Denagard there isn't any egg withdrawal.
@@oneseedoneworld oh what do I know I only raise a few thousand chickens every year
@@jrodjrod199 I wasn't questioning your knowledge and experience, just stating why I prefer the Denagard for my backyard flock.
@@jrodjrod199 do give it orally?
@@miguelestrada8013 inject it in the breast muscle
You need to plant more medicinal plants on your yard
I do have some medicinal plants growing around each year, although could always do more. Unfortunately that won't do much for mycoplasma.
@@oneseedoneworld one of my hens was suffering from this diesease and I gave her very small pieces of garlic and some guinea hen weed and she made it through and she is loves to eat medicinal plants like stinging nettle blue vervain marjoram&bird peppers aka chilli peppers in America
@@sunfrancis6669 I had misunderstood your first comment. Yes, those medicinal plants and other types of herbs can help boost their immune systems. While the disease isn't curable, building up the immune systems will better help them mitigate a lot of the symptoms.
what is tablespoon to ml help 😅!?!
One tablespoon is equal to 14.7868 ml
DOES it cause a chicken to hang it's wings down and tail? Stand more upright like a penguin and waddle like a penguin? I have a chicken with those symptoms now that I noticed yesterday.
Thats a new one to me. Although chickens should normally have their tails up. If the tail feathers are down all the time and that isn't normal for your chicken it generally means they aren't feeling well, but that could be from anything.
@@oneseedoneworld I'm concerned about her having Marek's decease. Is that a possibility?
@@CoyMoutonmareks is a very serious issue but typically causes some type of paralization sadly so does some nutrient deficiencies tho
@@CoyMouton Its hard to say without a test being done by a vet or local lab. There are several diseases that have similar symptoms.
@@oneseedoneworld All the clinical people I have talked to say she can't be tested until she's dead, and I'm doing my Best to save her life not have her put down...