Studio One Quick Tip - Using 'Define Tempo' To Timestretch Audio Events In Studio One
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- In this video, I demonstrate how to stretch Audio Files (Loops) using 'Define Tempo' vs the traditional 'Stretch Event' approach.
Define Tempo is a unique approach to use when timestretching Audio Events which (in some cases) may be preferable to use vs basic timestretching.
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Hi, thanks for this quick video for time stretching tempo. I wonder if it will be accurate when you want to import an entire audio from, i.e. a disco song find parts of this song cut the 4 or 8 bars and adjust these to your tempo set . Am asking as I am currently working on both my fav DAWs bouncing between LogicX 10.4.6 to Studio One 4.6 . LogicX just upgraded this feature of calculating the tempo and supposedly allowed me to align the down beat and in flex time snip the transients to the beat, unfortunately in my experience I found a great lack of accuracy in this algorithms and wasting a lot of time trying to do what is suggested in LogicX manual... without achieving a proper results with this tempo matching/time stretching. It’s all over the places despite all the different ways to achieve this goal. Any suggestions on doing this in Studio One 4.6? That might be more accurate? A lot of my colleagues are using time warp in Abletone Live and apparently on what they told me is the most accurate time warp feature in all of the mentioned above DAWs. Thanks ! Alexia.
Hi Alexia, I totally hear what you are saying. I haven't had a chance to use Ableton Live since about 2008, but from my personal experience, I have never found that an "automated" feature works as advertised, properly with accurate results. (I would love for someone to prove me wrong though)
I have 2 videos which may be of help to you:
marcus-huyskens-music.com/mh-music-blog/improved-manual-tempo-mapping-in-studio-one-411-part-1
marcus-huyskens-music.com/mh-music-blog/improved-manual-tempo-mapping-in-studio-one-411-part-2-tempo-scaling-and-working-with-midi
Even though they are both relatively long in terms of run-time, I would advise watching them both.. Part 1 covers the basics of how things works and how to set up Studio One properly, and Part 2 (the first half) should answer ALL your questions, and leave you with the skillset to handle anything and everything.
I will say this, with these new options that were added in the 4.1.1 update, I am able to handle any task with respect to manual tempo mapping and (when needed) conforming a looped section of any sample to a static BPM. But FWIW - Define tempo is still useful - but only when the audio loop is a perfect loop and you just need to quickly snap it to a bar boundary while also defining its source tempo.
Hope this helps! please let me know. Cheers, M
@@marcushuyskensmusic Thanks Marcus! I will check your 2 videos linked. Take care! A.
Hi M. Just checked your tutorial videos you linked...Awesome! Looks like I need to *play* more in S.One so I can have a better learning curve /craft the art of this features in S.One I was wondering as I got quite of numbers of projects to work on and i would like to speed up the learning curve and master the Studio One DAW in a way I don't have to spend as much time as required having a tutor, so am asking you do you tutor people via web? If you do I'd like to start to *master* Studio One and start to work on my own and my clients projects within S.One. As mentioned in previous text I work in LogicX as I know this one since 14 years now...But S.One has so many features that allows you a better workflow and a more (up-todate?) if I can say that?
Second that…so many vids why do I wanna watch a 30 min vid with a bunch of filler about your personal life just teach me!!!
5 yers on and still relevant. Dozens of vids on this channel are my go to's. Some I don't use often and come back to remember how to do. Awesome reference manual this channel.
Damn thank heavens for tutorials under 10 minutes thanks!!!
You are constantly digging out the hidden golden nuggets and sharing them with us. Thanks Marcus!
Thank you, Marcus. Where would we be without you? bless
There is another usecase. When you simply use a lot of audio files in your project and client says it could be a bit faster, you can just simply select all, type in the Project tempo to the File tempo, Set tempo to Timestretch, Drums and Polyfonic instruments accordingly to the preferred algorythm, you just change the project tempo and you don't have to worry about anything being out of sync. I was especially missing this feature as this is automatic in Ableton Live what I prefer for music production, but sometimes I have to adjust things at mixing, so It's nice to know about some production techniques in Studio One.
Well, I should have come here an hour ago :) Thank you very much. I would never have found this.
For sure you are the best instructor with the best and most useful information about Studio One! Thanks.
The exact video i've been looking for for months lmao,
Shit is so unintuitive in S1,
Thanks man!~
I've used studio one for about the same time as you and never knew you could do that, this is so needed so thank you for pointing it out. Keep em coming Bless
Glad you enjoyed!! Always nice finding something that I didn't know about :)
I'm searching for this so long!!!! TANKS!!!!!!
Thanks Marcus for this top piece of advice.
This is really cool and useful. I am able to use a lot of samples I have now in my productions without the major timestretch headache.
Well - Just to be clear, Studio One has always allowed users to easily snap a loop to the current song's BPM by using alt/option - but this method is IMHO better because it also adds the File Tempo to the audio event at the same time :)
Wow! Wonderful video making us aware of a little known, but extremely useful feature. I really appreciate your knowledge in your videos!
HOLY SHIT! This is golden Marcus. Thanks for sharing.
You are my hero of the day. I was really going something between frustrated and crazy. I could not even find something about that problem in the help files. I knew it had something to do with the missing bpm values. Presonus should make this option as default. If I time stretch a sample, I want it to follow my bpm change and nothing else
Hey, nice! I have always used the Click+Alt option when importing a loop in a different tempo. This is much better and I will embed this in my workflow tomorrow. Thanks!
Yeah me too!! But this is much better and it's literally the exact same amount of effort..
Thanks for watching :) Cheers, M
Thanks Marcus,
I came across this video of yours when searching for help on 'Time Stretching MIDI' and was having no luck in finding precisely what I wanted . Watching yours though provided me with a thought and I tried what you were showing in relation to MIDI and worked, but not define time. So thanks for the thought, I'd forgotten to hold CTRL when I first tried it on MIDI.
A video on MIDI Time Stretching though would be cool and real helpful. Your videos are really helpful and so to the point. Some blab on and on and take forever to get to the actual point of the video. Take care and rock on!
Yess! exactly what I needed!
Thanks man. That was very helpful
Thanks for this. I started using Studio One last month and discovered you from Groove3's Studio One tutorials!
Wow wow wow!!! Tnx a lot Marcus
This is so helpful...as always from you Marcus, thank you!
Great feature that I can use. Thanks for finding and demonstrating it!
Hello, Thank you so much. Your Explanation helped me just perfectly, after having strugeled around since a few hours.
SUPER DUPER HELPFUL. I NEEDED TO ADJUST THE TEMPO AND SLOW A SONG DOWN WITH BOTH MIDI AND AUDIO EVENTS THAT WERE ARRANGED WITH EVENTS IN DIFFERENT PLACES AND THIS STILL WORKED. "ALT + COMMAND" ON MAC WITH TIMESTRETCH ENABLED. I WAS ABLE TO STRETCH ALL FILES AT ONCE AND STRETCH IT BACK TO GET THE FILE TEMPO. ONCE I DID THAT, I ADJUSTED THE TEMPO AND ALL MY FILES FOLLOWED SUIT WITH NO NOTICEABLE ARTIFACTS. (I ONLY CHANGED MY TEMPO WITHIN 5 BPM'S OF EACH OTHER, I DONT KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING GREATER THAN THAT, IM SURE IT WILL STILL SOUND AWESOME. I FEEL SUCH A GREAT SINCE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT. LOL. THANKS YOUR MARCUS HUYSKENS MUSIC.
Man, this is gold. I was doing a remix in Studio One several months ago and could lock the tempo while changing project BPM.. So I had to do it in Ableton. THANK YOU.
*Couldn't
the last missing piece for a perfect DAW. thanx!!
That is definitely very useful. Thanks for that tip! Great!
Cheers!
Really useful tutorial, thank you very much for sharing.
Thanks Marcus, this is helpful because i am a Trap Producer and make and download loops with no bpm
omg this is literally exactly what i need today
Awesome.. Thank you..
Thx, that actually is a great tip. Keep it up with tips like that.
Nice tip. Thanks as always.
Ho Man, Thank you. I notice my loop won't snap even if it was stretched. I noted that tags were missing and i try to punch it in manually with no success.You "alt" and stretch was perfect. Thanks
Woohoo! Good advice!
Nice tip Marcus. Thx
great video
Thank you!
Killer tip
Thank you!!!!!
Nice one Marcus.
Great stuff. I subbed for more S1 content. Just started out after years with Bitwig and Ableton before that. (Very excited about the .daw format for BW and S1 synergy.)
Do you happen to know if there is a feature or quick workflow for taking a random clip and simply making its tempo the project tempo? I really just want the DAW to assume 2 or 4 bars based on the literal amount of samples and set appropriately with no stretching.
Think sample based chops. Sometimes I'll start with a scratch recording of my own but one I'm very happy with the specific timing / groove of and by the time you get the click going, the magic is gone. And playing it any faster or slow would ruin the idea.
I'd love to just highlight a specific segment of midi or audio and make the tempo adjust so that its 2, 4, or however many bars.
thanks for this ! wow
Super useful tyanks
Just on this point, you just sent me back to my old bedroom in the mid to late 1990's I'd told a friend to drop everything and get round to mine asap, i told him that i was gonna be the next mauro piccatto because i had exported my first 20 minute mess around on ejay dance 4
Point is though it had a great time stretcher, and it allowed you to set 2 bpms simultainiously the input bpm then the output bpm too
Wow.thanks.
Great share mate, any chance you can show the short cuts on the screen as you do em, would be appreciated
Great Tip.
Thanks
Didnt know that either. Looking for a capture method like ableton to define a real performance for me. Might be way to do so.
Thank you so much bro!!
Very cool !!! Nice feature! Thanx Big Big !!!... 8-)))
Fantastic! ;o)
Can you make a video about doing this same thing with acapellas?
Great. I remenber havig a option in logic 9. Where you set the loop and then you have this option to stretch that sample to the selected "loop parameter"
I have a problem. I don't want my guitars or superior drummer to stretch but like first 20 seconds of the intro were in 174 and the rest in 120? It's all written in 120 and I don't want files to stretch when I move it to the 120 side. How to get rid of that?
Super thanks !!!!
Theres allways something we need to verify and learn more about any point in Presonus Studio one !!!
So you can't just drag and drop files and they instantly sync to the project?
Great tip! -
After doing this what is the easiest/quickest way to save the sample back to your sample library in its original correct tempo? If I drag it back to my sample library it seems to take the tempo of the current song rather than the original BPM. Also it will save it with a (1) after the file name. I'd like to overwrite my files and save them with the original correct tempo back to my sample library.
I want to do a Mashup with two songs one is an instrumental the other one is the vocal stems how do i link the tempos of both files?
Hi, but I found not all the files works... for example I import one song mp3 from the internet, and when I open the Track Inspector, it even don't have any row indicated to the "Tempo".. just very simple info like "Start time", "End time"..etc
As stated elsewhere in the comments, you need to have timestretch on for the track concerned. Finally it worked for me, but is this the only way to get the find the actual tempo of the loop? I'm still looking for a way to change the song tempo to the loop, not the other way around. (Now I can copy the newly found tempo in the normal tempo track to get there, but surely there is a direct way?)
What is the best way of record guitar with no click? Timestretch? In the old days we could record that way.
wow! I'm an Ableton guy. I dab into S1 last weekend, really digging the program. This feature is insanely awesome. I having a hard time getting used to is in midi clips in the arranger. I keep layering them accidentally, and I keep trying to consolidating midi like the audio clips, comm b. How do you connect midi events? I think a big part of my workflow to chopping audio and midi then consolidating into new clips/events.
would this do it to a full instrumental songs like trying to find a tempo of a song besides tap tempo which is not accurate all the time
Fan-bloody-tastic. I feel like looping up some remixes now.
PS. Enjoying your courses on Groove3.com
I'm going to find that very useful! All these years I've been using time stretch and never knew that option, thanks Marcus!
...on another note, for those of you who like killing two birds with one stone, you might want to find a new hobby.
Ed Kihm lol - horrible expression isn’t it.. 😂
@@marcushuyskensmusic Yeah, but I use it all the time and follow it up with the hobby joke.
Hi Marcus! I think the option Define Tempo (alt+control) doesn't exist in S1 4.6, am I wrong?
It is very strange ... I have two operating systems on my own computer, in the main system (WIN 10 1909 X64) the 'Define Tempo' command does not appear at all when I select the question mark ... In my second (WIN 10 1809 X64) system the command appears normally. Note that the Studio settings are the same...
Well, I just found it! The settings of the track-> tempo should be 'timestretch', no 'follow"!
THANK YOU !
Dam! This tip was so hot.
It's bad.. Studio One is the only DAW you have to tell to it the tempo but Reaper, Logic, Reason, Live, Cubase..
One those daw you just timestretch one time and you can change the tempo and the loop follow the bpm automatically .
but in Studio One this trick doesn't work at all :(
When I hold down option and command, "define tempo" doesn't show up. Any ideas?
Try pressing command first and then hold the option key. :)
I can't do it on PC ? what I'm missing here ? Are there any shortcuts for PC ?
I found it...I had to press timestretch for it to work...if it's on Follow this thing wont' work !
@@Joeknowsit-ALL pls how did u do this ? kindly help
@@ChimezieDavid I just did it like he did in the video...make sure first your tempo is set to TIMESTRETCH . And then press CTRL & ALT together and come on the side of the region, it has to be right in the middle till you see the timing symbol shows up. If it didn't show up, move a little bit up and down till you see it first and then stretch in or out to the grid. ET voila !
I'm not getting that 'Define Tempo' option. Any ideas why not? (V4 Mac)
Same here
Any luck finding this?
I figured it out. Make sure the track is set to Timestretch. Then you will have that option for Define Tempo.
how can this apply to acapella please help
I do have a way to handle that type of workflow - It works for either Acapella, or instruments without any rhythmic elements defining the beat / Bars..
its a little more involved though.. I may cover it in a future video.. It involves manual Tempo Mapping
Cheers, M 🍻
@@marcushuyskensmusic hey thanks but can it be simplified just as easy as u did this video ... that would help u all
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thank you!