Electrifiying everything does seem to be a joke and no infrastructure to support it at the mo. Feel sorry for the posties not being able to use their EV van heaters in the winter. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Your figures, like most people who don't fully understand EV tech, are bollocks. Battery life is not determined by miles, it's determined by charge cycles. A single charge a day for an RM van is ~350 charges a year (accounting for some bank holidays etc). Cycle life of a typical NMC/NMA battery bank is 2500 cycles. So that's replace every 7 years - in reality it will be closer to 10 years as the 2500 cycle life is based on a 80% DOD (depth of discharge), and with the vans doing only 100 miles a day on average they won't be doing an 80% cycle rate every day. Newer vans are more likely to be based on LFP batteries - they have a life of 5000 cycles, extending battery life to 15-20 years.
@@blower1 In the case of Royal Mail, the vans mentioned are local driven vans and most of them do very low millage a day, that's especial true of the delivery van. when they get to there delivery area the are stationary most of the day, The driver uses the van like a store room for all the mail, parks up and goes off on foot to deliver, after they have gone so far they then move the van to probably the next street or so, then off on foot delivering to your houses etc. So alot of them are not charged every day, maybe every few days.
@@blower1 Interesting to read this and yes it makes sense but still doesent equate to the number of charging points needed if all are electric and require charging and also how green is the eltericity supply st the moment, (National Grid reusing caol fired pawer stations tonight to meet demand) the country is just not ready for these users to change to all electric
Common practice in the UK is to employ very highly paid but incompetent CEOs who run their companies into a financial black hole and then recommend selling the company cheap to a foreign outfit.
I'm an HGV mechanic and have been since leaving school in 1979, I'm fed up of being told to what to drive, eat,do etc, being charged stupid money for fuel, by a government intent on taxing the life out of us, diesel and petrol cars are so much cleaner now, but I have younger people telling me that I know nothing and I'm stupid, really? this video you have done is spot on, Geoff.... I want to be left alone 👍 great video
I was in the motor trade and I agree with you. The Internal Combustion Engines have been around a long time (1879) but they have evolved continuously over the years becoming highly efficient engines. The electric car has also been out a long time (1890) and they still can't get it to do everything that an ICE can do. Too many people are telling us what to do without them doing any research whatsoever.
agreed. Eat fry ups, smoke Woodbines, drive 20 year old diesels and have coal fires. You'll still live as long as those runners/cyclists/triathletes/parkrunners who drop dead with heart failure. I'm serious, apart from the Woodbines.
I run a 1979 Cadillac Coupe Deville 8ltr V8 on LPG .If i had a LNG petrol station near me i would run that but strangely there are on a few in the UK . No MOT ,no road tax,cheap classic car insurance ,is gaining in value and half price LPG. I checked the emissions and they are next to nothing .Goes twice the milage between oil changes and spark plugs . On petrol on a run the underworked V8 gets mid 20,s so as LPG is half price it's like a 50 mpg car . It runs absolutely no difference between petrol Vs LPG .
So the local gossip near me is that Amazon were so insistant that all the vans at their local warehouse in Coalville were electric that they had to hire in 30 deisel generators to charge them all up. Also, the range was so poor they hired in 50 diesel vans which were'nt Amazon liveried to ensure all the deliveries could be done. I had an Amazon delivery of two items yesterday, the first of which came in a grey Amazon electric van and 10 minutes later the rest of our order rocked up in an Enterprise branded Transit.
@Geoff Buys Cars Thank you, Please acknowledge though that this is heresay, although I have heard the same thing from a number of sourses in the same area, many of which work for me who have partners working for Amazon.
I’ve just happened upon this channel. Despite us being an all electric family, with solar, your wish to be left alone resonates 100% with me. This may sound contradictory, but after nearly 70 years on this planet, I’ve never felt the sense that we’ve descended into insanity, to this extent…and we’ve been through a few things. The joy, optimism and sense of freedom we once felt, is ebbing away at a pace.
Hi Geoff. Totally agree. My employer is going down the same route. I have to take my van home because I am on call. With a range (fully loaded, heater lights etc) of 100 miles, I can get home and back to my place of employment and possibly visit one or two sites but not get home again. Total crap, not thought out and according to my employer no going back. Glad I'm retiring in a couple of months! Thanks for the video, your research and your time making and posting this🙃
My ex royal mail Vauxhall Combo 1.7di is 20 years old and has now done 460,000 miles still on its original engine, gearbox. It cost me £1500 14 years ago and it still does around 800 miles per fill up. Its the most reliable vehicle Ive owned. Good job because my business relies upon it. I hired a Nissan eNV200 for a month for my mobile valeting business. I cannot charge at home. once I'd loaded the van for work. I was getting 50 miles per charge! Public charging is sketchy at best, its also expensive. The range is too short, takes too long. I gave the thing back after 2 weeks as I was having to cancel appointments. The local Amazon depot only use their electric vans for deliveries within 15 miles of the depot because of the range issues. My buddy works for British gas. He has been issued an EV van that he takes home. he cannot charge at home so he spends 4 hours of his working day on pay charging the thing. This NetZero eco BS will see us all back to the stone age except we wont be allowed to have a fire to keep warm.
Yes, the sad thing is that many of us can see the problems but try telling it to the green brigade who are sold completely on anything and everything that anybody claims will help save the planet. There's a video on here that explains it all very well, including the fact that combustion engined vehicles (all of them, not just cars), only accounts for 3% of the world's emissions. Switching to EVs all over the world won't save that 3% as there are emissions involved in building and running electric vehicles, so in terms of "saving the planet" - the main selling point - how much is actually going to be saved in emissions, if anything at all? It's insane.
On the positive side, to charge up all those EVs there won't be enough power left to run the server farms needed for the 15 mile cities and social credit score with 24/ surveiilence devices every 20m across the 🎉whole country. The whole country could be brought to a standstill simply by plugging in all EVs at the same time?
@@raypilgrim6905 they've thrown in the towel re: xmas, probably be on strike every xmas until everyone completely shuns them for being unfit for purpose anyway.
UK emits approximately 1% of co2 into the atmosphere. UK Govt could throw another £ 100 Trillion at that 1 % and i could guarantee that 1% will still be there, I would like our IDIOTS in Parliament to stop wasting our taxes on UN - ACHIEVABLE TARGETS like Net Zero, there's only one way to almost achieve that 0 % is to have a DEAD EARTH like the MOON or MARS,
Most of us in the motor trade have watched this insane move to battery EV’s in disbelief for years just waiting for the penny to drop & people realise it ain’t gonna work..we live in a world run by 🤡
We live in a world run by clowns, while continue to vote for them. We all want to be so virtuous green, socialist and progressive. Those conservative common sense values of thirty years ago are so 'bigoted' and 'wrong'...
I read that British Gas moved to EVs for their HomeServe gas service engineers: customer complaints have gone up since there are fewer service calls per shift as valuable time is now spent charging up the vans.
The only penny that needs to drop for people is they arnt going to have a car. The powers that be are fully aware it wont work, calculated they might be, its only Joe public that are clowns.
long before that, no one will be buying stamps due to cost and as the majority of mail now is junk mail it will also be too expensive for these companies to send the junk mail by post as well
Many years ago, I used to visit a Royal Mail workshop to repair/service the AC Units in their security vans: The Depot Workshop was state of the art.... it had every latest gadget you could think of....(Mostly covered in dust I noted.) .. I thought at the time, no wonder postage is so expensive and rising: This switch by them to EV's is simply bonkers..... they are losing money on a daily basis due to their lack of foresight and insisting on "the Emperors New Clothes." It's gonna end in tears, believe me.
Problem is Geoff, before we can be left alone in peace, we need to fight for it. It has always been the way. Wish us all a good fight when the time comes. All the best mate.
@@leswallace2426 What about it? You will still be breathing clean air. Do you even know anything about today's internal combustion engines and how clean they are? Have you heard of Euro5? Ridiculous victim card type statement. We need to keep our economy moving, and these EV gimmicks are a step in the wrong direction for commercial vehicles.
Geoff, I want to be left alone too... The WEF and agenda 21/30 will make none of us are unless we finally grow a spine and say 'enough'. We have the power even if it feels as if we don't. Merry Christmas 🌲
Geoff, I want to be left alone too. I try to speak to people about the 2030 agenda and they look at me with that 'wtf you talking about' look on their face. It's too much for them to comprehend, all they care about is materialistic bullshit and their comfy lifestyle, which if they just opened their eyes just a little, it might enlighten them enough to actually think about standing up to the globalist bullshit because it's those globalists that are about to take away their comfy lifestyles.
The company are actively trying to run themselves into the ground in every way possible. I work for RM and we have 100% electric fleet in our office and its a bloody nightmare. Not enough charging ports, charger cables keep going missing so we have to borrow someone else's and the drop off of battery power in the winter is massive. Left depot with 50 miles remaining, drove 4 miles up the road and it dropped to 30 miles. Had to put on eco mode which in turn switches off the heating, did my round and when i got back to the depot i had like 15 miles left having only drove about 12 miles all day. Give me an engine any day, electric still isnt there.
your comment about charger cables disappearing rings bells, pdas disappear where I work, so another agency who's staff have their own delivery software package on their phones has been brought in. Sadly there is bloody-mindedness on both sides with most staff, incl. middle managers caught in the cross-fire.
I drove first generation 2013 electric belingo vans a couple of years ago as part of a highway job, had a real world range of 60miles which dropped to 45miles in winter with 24k/wh batteries. Worked well for visiting site but not up to delivery work. They lasted 9 year's before the fleet was replaced but only did around 40k miles so nowhere near 100k. I think time will tell on the royal mail vans, I wouldn't be surprised if the batteries are kept well beyond the first 100k, they certainly push their petrol fleet to the max and I expect the maintenance costs can easily exceed £600 some year's. The UKIP article was definitely looking at the extreme plus Royal Mail sell their van's on of course generating some revenue.
Why don’t we all become activists and target electric vehicles and the numb headed people of 2022 who think eliminating oil and gas is a good thing. What I’d love to see is everyone going back in time before oil was discovered in Scotland and see how we get to where we are now without it
This got really crazy from day one of lockdown in the uk, this needs to be stopped now, there is too many hidden agenda's and there's more going on that the people are aware of
@@GeoffBuysCars agree. The strikes will end soon and the govt will get their way through beligerance. Any one with any sense would leave. The rest if us are stuck here through inertia and being told by family we're nuts. Those of us that are left will be surrounded by the dullards that can't tie their shoelaces and we're left working 3 times as hard.
Well said Geoff. It's not about having agendas or being conspiracy theorists, there are huge numbers of us just like you who want to be left alone to live our lives simply and quietly and not be subject to the government's various agendas and/or the agendas of the various fanatics out there. That means we do have to rip into their plans and risk being called conspiracy theorists. And I did make it to the end of the video.
Thanks for watching to the end! Give us a subscribe because some other things have come to light since making this video, i've got some great videos coming this week.
I made it to the end of the video too, but I still think it's about having agendas and being conspiracy theorists (no offence). You can't have it both ways and expect to live in a functioning society while being left alone at the same time. Even Geoff's supposedly simple request towards the end to "just" be allowed access to cheap fuel (among other things) comes across as him not thinking rationally. There's no human right to that, but you're welcome to set sail and try to find your own source of oil and set up the infrastructure to process it if you like. Funnily enough, it would be much simpler for someone who wants to remain isolated and independent to fuel an EV vehicle with solar to travel anywhere they like at very little cost, but you'd have to stop reading misleading Facebook articles written by politicians with unashamedly transparent agendas to realise that.
@@dan_ You still didn't address the main point of Geoff's argument: the PO were making a blindingly bad economic decision based on the green agenda so popular with CEOs etc these days. Instead, in the end you settled for calling those of us who question these things as people with an agenda and conspiracy theorists, despite your "no offence" disclaimer. You final condescending comment warning us off reading Facebook articles wasn't necessary. You can live in a functioning society and be left alone. That doesn't mean untouched by society or the policies of its rule-makers. It means once we've found a decent enough way to live our lives we don't appreciate the powers that be messing us about on whatever happens to be their current political whim. Remember when their political whim was that diesel was the way to go? That went well didn't it. What was with the "squirrel" of someone being welcome to set sail and find their own oil supply and then setting up the infrastructure to process it? Last time I looked there were some very big companies already specialising in doing just that. Let me see, Aramco, Shell, Esso, BP to name but a few. As for someone who wanted to live alone fueling an EV via solar and then travelling where they like at very little cost, dear me, must have missed all those eco-greens in my neck of the woods. I don't recall any fleets of remotely practical vehicles that run only via solar attached to the vehicle itself. So you have to charge from your big array on your property (and size is limited without planning permission) before setting out. Once the government switches tax to electric vehicles (which it will) you won't be getting away with running an EV without giving them their tax fee regardless of where you electricity comes from. Plus of course unless you only do out and return to base journeys you'll have to recharge away from base and pay the fee. BTW further to the cheap fuel access request: just why hasn't fuel fallen back to where it was before Ukraine became the excuse for everything from bad weather to a shortage of yoghurt? (I made the latter up).
It is worth mentioning that the Transit-sized vans are almost always in excess of 3500 kgs MAM (ie Gross Vehicle weight), because of the additional weight of the batteries, which will limit the eligibility of drivers who passed their driving test after 1997 unless they took a further class C test. Also the C and C1 licences require the licence to be renewed every 5 years, with eyesight and medical fitness certification being required. There is apparently a temporary ruling to increase that weight limit for EV and hybrid models, to 4250 kgs for drivers who pass their test after 1997 but the vehicle, if over 3500 kgs has apparently to be fitted with a tachograph and limited to 60mph. A veritable minefield for operators and drivers.
Almost 10 years ago I bought a little diesel car for retirement, been totally trouble free and road tax exempt, I could never contemplate ever buying into this expensive racket, regards and well said
Yup, plus all those who willingly took these "safe" & effective jabs" to save granny will be part of that "carbon" they so drastically want to reduce...
We now live in a strange world where since covid people will enthusiastically do whatever the goverment tells them - without questioning it. Top analysis btw.
A few year's ago Royal Mail acquired electric tractors to work on the station taking mail out, then bringing mail in. from the train's. Two yer's later they were knackered and wouldn't work. They replaced Petrol tractor's with Morris Miner engine's geared right down that had been doing the job for year's "without any troubles at all" So yes the senior managr's in London really do know what they are doing??
You actually mentioned one thing the RM might have had in mind: what if they are expecting fuel prices to become stupidly expensive so that the petrol fleet is unworkable? (And if they are so divorced from reality that they believe that windmills and solar panels will make electricity cheap?)
bear in mind the new army of newly arriving fit young men waiting for training in their UK wide 4* hotels, sorry barracks that will be delighted to be paid to quell any uprisings,, just what the Aussies did...
I live in Germany and the Deutsche Post uses StreetScooter electric vans. Range is around 100 miles. DP bought the company that makes them, and regards the vans as a stop-gap until vans with much better range become available. In view of the fact that DHL/DP trucks frequently deliver goods around the UK, but I am yet to see a Royal Mail truck delivering stock to my local Lidl here in Deutschland I am guessing DP is run by a higher standard of human being.
Geoff I’m an RM truck driver , we’re in a nasty industrial dispute as pretty much everybody knows , but what isn’t reported is that we are in the process of being bought out by a group called VESA , venture capitalists owned by a Czech billionaire based in Luxembourg, Can you see where this going ? So our current ceo is going all out to defeat the nasty CWU , If he does , RM is going to become a gig economy business , majority of staff phoney self employed , vans ( yes the electric ones your describing ) won’t be owned by Royal Mail they will be leased by the employee , so the costs you describe will not be theirs ,
@@Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming the bbc did touch on it a few weeks ago with an interview with the c e o simon Thompson , he of course swerved the answer and wouldn’t be drawn on it but the company concerned v e s a have quietly been buying more shares , they are at 22% at the moment I believe, at 25% they can launch a takeover if I understand it correctly
@@Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming All you will hear on mainstream news is the pay dispute. Pay is the least of the problems that the CWU is fighting, pay is pretty far down the list in fact.
Postage prices (letters and large letters) use to increase by 1p a year. In recent years, a 2nd class letter/large letter has increased on average by 10p a year and we might moan about it at the time of the increase, but then we just accept it and it becomes the norm. Price hikes will become larger and larger year upon year, that's how they will pay for it. Every aspect of the postal service is in decline and will only get worse. Very often, I don't get a postal delivery because of staff shortages. My local Royal Mail delivery office currently have approximately 21 vacancies.
Great video, we need more guys and girls who make videos like yours to start talking about these issues and raising awareness of what we are dealing with!
The EV market is totally stuffing us in the taxi trade. We run a fleet of 8 seaters for airport and seaport transfers. We have resorted to buying secondhand diesels as all the new 8 seaters seem to only be available in EV with ridiculously low range. Our brookers large order with Vauxhall has ended as the Vivaro is now only available as EV with 96 or 142 mile range. This would constitute maybe one or two jobs before recharge instead of a 10 hour shift covering 100's of miles. The demand for used V class Mercedes by taxi drivers has pushed used prices so high we have had drivers sell them for more than they purchased them for after 2 years of hard taxi work. I speculate unless things change we will cease in 18 months to 2 years as nothing on the market will be able to do the job and make a profit. Even if we could source suitable vehicles licensing authorities are talking about bringing in a ban on Petrol and diesel taxis 5 years earlier than the official ban. All road policies are based around large cities where the low range is manageable. Those trading in rural areas will soon be in real trouble.
Luke this is so interesting. Pop me an email over if you want to discuss more maybe there's a video in this. People need to know. geoffbuyscars@gmail.com or direct message me on FB.
Luke this is the Corporate (NZ) agenda being used to decimate smaller enterprises using the #greenhandgrenade, the Govt is either complicit (aka corrupt) or stupid (both equally valid) and had fallen for the globalists’ plan, which will end when you “own nothing, and will be happy”.
I own an independent Land Rover repair shop in Ireland and I have been saying this for years. There is a big problem with EV’s They don’t work!!! And they’re not going to work.
Net zero is a scam... I recently booked 2 3 day trips to Europe. At the end of the booking, it gave me the option to pay for my offset LMFAO!! What a scam! It's pure genius.
It probably works something like this. Tour company has a deal with a third party to provide carbon offsets. Tour company's only involvement is to provide the check box, for which they get a cut of the loot. Carbon offset company sends money to it's wholly owned subsidiary, which plants loblolly pines to replace the ones that they just cut down and sent to the paper mill and/or EU approved renewable fuel plant. Carbon offset company reports "N trees were planted on your behalf."
I work for RM at Dorchester DO, and have driven the very vans you are talking about. The Merc vans have a range of 80 miles. You’ll be lucky if you get 20-30 miles. The Mercs are absolutely terrible to drive also. They are no good for parcel deliveries. In fact, if you go down to Dorchester delivery office today you’ll find all of the Mercs have now been sent to London delivery offices and swapped for Peugeots now. They were not fit for purpose. The only reason Dorchester DO went to all electric was because Prince Charles wanted them in Poundbury.
I work for a bus company and they have 2 electric buses that are essentially tokens bought to flex and show off for PR they're nice to drive and the range is perfectly decent for city work however they cost an extra £250k, have less loading capacity the heating on them is rubbish and they have a habbit of breaking down in really awkward places. The engineering workshop are not allowed to do any repairs to them as it voids the warranty and of course they take up extra space and pose a massive fire risk. They have ordered 30 more which will arrive at some point this year and the timing for charging the buses and bringing them in and out has to be planned as there isn't space for enough chargers. The two token buses we have got are limited to 45mph which means they cannot safely use the motorway or dual carriageways.
I feel the stress, being a car enthusiasts all my life 2020 was sadly the last year I took getting interested in new vehicles. I find no love in anything that will be produced in the next coming years due to these government agendas. I have more interest in buying a classic car or a older less advanced car than a new EV scam vehicle.
They have no soul agendas are made by couple rich who want again more control. Yes i get it but its not cheaper and yes fresh air as drives past really do get it but……hmmmm
Hi Geoff!, I run a 2005 Peugeot 407 with 86k on the clock. I regularly see 60+ mpg on motorways and 45+ on urban cycle. I am still only paying for tyres, brakes and battery plus servicing. The exhaust is original. I did look to replace it last year but changed the clutch instead (£990.00- it’s a dual flywheel something or other) it was the better option! A few of my neighbours run electric and I know that they laugh at my car but I simply point to our local power station that runs on Irish Sea gas and ask if their energy source is carbon neutral, I never get an answer! Let’s face it would you or me be happy to have power rationing and sit in the dark knowing a load of senseless pillocks are charging their EVs? Really? One or two have gone out and bought a petrol car, small ford or similar, to use while the EV charges. Who’s laughing now? WHY THE HELL DO I NEED TO BE FORCED TO GO ELECTRIC! WHY DO ANY OF US NEED AN EV? LEAVE ME ALONE - I AM HAPPY. PS - subscribed! Cheers buddy!
And, of course they're not electric till they're charged. So where does the charge come from? Oh! a fossil fuelled power station. Sorry, dont quite grasp the logic here
The EV thing is a complete scam. Whether it's designed to boost the ailing car industry or to create jobs and therefore more tax money or what I don't know, but it's not difficult to work out. I run a 2009 Jaguar XF 3 litre diesel and it will still cost less to run over the next ten years than any electric car, because what EVangelists never take into account is the actual buying cost of the new car. In fact most are leased, so it's all 'dead' money, you'll never own it so every payment is a 100% loss. As for emissions, even Volvo admit that you'll have to do 70,000 miles before you're creating less emissions than their equivalent combustion engine model (based on the XC60). So my Jag has done 60,000 in 13 years so should be good for another 10-15 or more. Then there's all the infrastructure that will need to be built and so on. I haven't seen the emissions value of building all that taken into account, or the problem with the vert toxic lithium waste from new batteries, and old spent batteries (they're virtually useless when they can only charge to 60% of their original value I believe). A couple of other things that haven't been thought through is who is going to pay thousands of pounds for new batteries when the car is (for example) as old as my Jag, and what are people going to do about charging who live in terraced houses or flats? The majority of British people do not have a driveway or garage.
During the cold spell a couple of weeks before Xmas I was speaking to an Amazon driver. He drives a electric Mercedes and it is supposed to have a range of 90 miles. He told me that the best he's seen out of it was about 60 miles and most days he has to find somewhere to charge it but during the cold spell the range had dropped to less than 30 miles so he was using a hired diesel van because his round would be impossible in the EV. It's cold again this week so I would guess he's using a hire van again. Honestly, how the hell are the people responsible for making these stupid decisions even allowed out unaccompanied?
@@sambrooks7862 I could be slightly out on the figures, but a friend of mine, a plumber, bought a Mercedes Vito EV not long ago and couldn't get more than 60 miles out of it. A lot of his work is in the city, 30 miles away so it was touch and go whether he got home or not. And this was in the summer, and he probably wasn't carrying the weight a loaded parcel van would be carrying. He's currently suing the dealer as he was told 160 miles minimum. totally unfit for purpose.
I'm just wondering that car manufacturers have got so far down that rabbit hole so to speak that many are to scared to shut EV manufacturing completely off. I dread the day almost when a massive apartment complex goes up, not because an EV started it but made it difficult to put out, I'll keep driving my ice vehicles
There's a cost you're missing - so you've got a yard full of Royal Mail vans - how do you charge all of them at once? Or even half of them? What sort of electrical/charging infrastructure will you need at the depot? There's also another cost - I've had my hybrid car for a year - which I mainly use on short runs (so fully electric) I've already run over three cats. They just don't hear you coming - how many cats will 40,000 silent Royal Mail vans be squashing per year?
It's impossible to ignore this clown world we're living in, but I'd love to be left alone. Just get them all out of my head so I can live in peace. I've completely had enough.
Could it be that Royal Mail do not buy ANY of their vans, but that they lease them? It seems to me that current EV sales are propped up by lease purchase & PCP packages that effectively mask the overall cost of the vehicle to the user. That works until (as we saw in the past with Ford) there is a surplus of ex-lease vehicles that cannot be sold, so new lease deals go up in price? As you state in this video and on others: older EVs need new batteries, and there is a surplus of private used EVs. When the value of those used EVs inevitably fall, the economics will change. And by then, fleet buyers like Royal Mail will have little choice: their infrastructure will be orientated around EVs and IC vehicles will eventually no longer be an option. 'You'll own nothing - but you will be FAR from happy!'
I work in local council waste disposal. Anyway, the powers that be decided to demo an electric Refuse vehicle. So, this EV turns up, on a trailer driven by a dirty diesel tractor unit because it couldn't make it up north by it's own power. Morning arrives and the vehicle goes out but it had to go back to the depot before the round had finished because the battery was running out (it lasted approx 6 hours). This was in summer too, so there was limited lights being used, no washers, no wipers and no heating (we daren't use the AC). It went back the day after................on the back of a trailer.....................driven by a dirty diesel tractor unit 🙂
I too just wish to be left alone. I found this piece to be very apt over the last almost 3 years: “The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
I want to be left alone too. I also can't helo but think there is a sinister motive. Nothing seems to make sense if you actually scratch the surface even a little. It just seems like a convenient way to screw us over? There's so many more things that could be done instead of just taxing the death out of something.
Adrian Bowley 7 days ago Geoff I’m an RM truck driver , we’re in a nasty industrial dispute as pretty much everybody knows , but what isn’t reported is that we are in the process of being bought out by a group called VESA , venture capitalists owned by a Czech billionaire based in Luxembourg, Can you see where this going ? So our current ceo is going all out to defeat the nasty CWU , If he does , RM is going to become a gig economy business , majority of staff phoney self employed , vans ( yes the electric ones your describing ) won’t be owned by Royal Mail they will be leased by the employee , so the costs you describe will not be theirs ,
Just another point Geoff, IWTBLA, Where does Parcel Farse fit in the electric powered thingy. Also 40ish years ago Royal Mail used to fly a Douglas DC-3 better known as the Dakota. It was amazing to see. Did nothing for the environment.
Well Geoff you answered both your questions in the first minute of your video. Firstly "We need to buy less crap" - Well we also need to do less personal transport in cars. All of us. Some of that we can fix ourselves, because driving our own car has become part of our culture and some of that needs picking up by affordable (or free), reliable public transport. Secondly, it's not Royal Mail who are buying the vans apparantly.
A couple of years ago I worked in a warehouse picking goods for dispatch. All the forklifts and LLOPs (like small forklifts with long forks) ran on batteries. This was because of no exhaust fumes and not because of government rules. The large batteries lasted just over an eight-hour shift of work; they took about that time to fully charge, and the batteries should have rested for eight hours. They had a large battery charging bay manned by battery changers 24 hours a day (shift work). I was told by a couple of staff charging and changing them that this process never worked, as the batteries were expensive and they hadn't got enough to work like that. They were used, charged, changed and used again. So they were constantly heating up when being used, and heating up when being charged with no rest period. This invalidated the warranty as the batteries were worked to death. You would get a freshly charged battery with 100% charge, use it for half an hour and it would be down to 20%. I know modern cars have modern battery technology, but I bet there is a similar process and problems.
Incompetent management as usual in the UK. Modern LiFePO4 battery packs would laugh in the face of such a task. But I doubt the average British manager would even begin to understand what I just explained.
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@@grahamstevenson1740 is it in the interests of the electric forklift company to keep the customer in the dark or something not offer that battery type. Until one of their competitors does, they reap the financial rewards replacing batteries that have of had their warranty invalidated.
@@altvamp Exactly. It will depend on mileage of course, but say a car costs £20,000 new. Who is going to buy a 5 year old car that needs another £10,000 spending on new batteries? They'll also probably be expensive to swap out. When cars get to 10 years old they're going to be scrap value, so we're going to have perfectly good, perfectly capable cars being scrapped because nobody is going to buy a 10 year old car that needs new batteries. Over time, if manufacturers realise that their cars will only have a 10-year life (if that), they'll no doubt start using components that are not required to last as long so quality will probably start to drop. Metal parts will be replaced with plastic ones and so on. Nobody seems to have thought this through. The only logic I can see in it all is that it will reduce the number of cars on the roads, which is what governments want. People who now run a car worth around 5 grand won't e able to afford one in future, not if they need to buy new batteries and will therefore be forced off the roads due to cost. In the meantime millions of perfectly good cars will be scrapped to be replaced with EVs that half the country doesn't want.
T His is really getting out of hand now, and if we don't do anything to stop any of it, none of us will be left alone. I want to be left alone too. The only way we will achieve this is to tell them all no, and stick together, and stand out ground
I was a manager of a world leading maker of airport vehicles, where the desire to go electric started in 1974. You would have thought that airports with closed perimeters and short distances would suit electric vehicles well, but they were nothing but trouble. There were several attempts to revive electric ground equipment, but the only types that ever survived in service were forklifts, small baggage tractors and access platforms, most with tiny distances run. But so many EVs were stranded with flat batteries due to staff forgetting to charge them. They needed a lot of maintenance, much more than a petrol or diesel vehicle. Batteries are not a single unit, they comprise a box with dozens or hundreds of elements any of which can fail and stop the battery's power supply. Replacing cells is a nightmare and a costly task and replacing the entire battery pack is shockingly expensive up to tens of thousands of £/€/$. Battery packs are really the fuel supply paid in advance at enormous cost perhaps £15,000 spent and incurred whether the vehicle is used or not. IC vehicles only incur fuel cost as and when they need it, a little each time at modest cost over time. IC vehicles can be parked anywhere, but an EV needs to be parked at a charger location, you need one charger for each EV, otherwise you need a team of staff to check and test the charge, then to move every charged EV to somewhere else to free the space for another EV. A vehicle left in place denies the use of that charger for another EV. A major problem was that drivers would forget about the cable located out of view on the ground, they would reverse and rip the cable out of both the EV and the charger. The airports seized their opportunity to massively overcharge for the installation of the very high ampage power supplies needed and for the chargers, docking, cabling and for the EV parking bay. The time taken to get chargers installed was shockingly long term because they needed the energy supplier to lay in more power cables which meant finding sources with sufficient high ampage, digging trenches to bring new cables to the desired sites, knocking down, modifying or constructing new walls. They needed cooling, fire protection, switching and metering. The airports could not charge for a dedicated parking bay for IC vehicles, but for EVs, they cynically charged for the charger's space, they painted a bay around the vehicles and invoiced for a sizeable annual fee. EVs only sound good, but they are excessively costly and they are not practical for most vehicle usage.
I forgot to mention problems with towing. Because, batteries went flat or failed, towing for EVs was much more frequent, so an IC vehicle is always needed to recover and save an EV. Some industrial and airport vehicles have hydraulic transmission, often with non standard wheels, no suspension and low ground clearance and so hydraulic EVs with flat batteries are a nightmare and were often abandoned.
Can’t believe people think the future is something that takes 8 hours to recharge and you have to turn the heater off in cold weather??? That’s like saying ‘use candles at home as we’ve closed all our coal fired power stations and we have high winds so needed to turn the wind turbines offa’
I work for Royal Mail. You are dead on point Geoff. Our CEO did write months ago that due to “the current financial situation” he was reviewing our new electric vans orders. I don’t know if that really happened because we are still receiving new electric vehicles (not just vans). But make no mistake, the ultimate goal of every decision currently being made is not improving the service, or the work force - is net zero. For example, they will use more trains to carry post in UK, instead of lorries. That sounds amazing, in theory. The problem is it’s being done at the expense of degrading the service. The postmen will receive the post much later in the day, and will only be able to start delivering it after 11-12am, instead of 7-8am. They’ll be out in the dark during Autumn/Winter, they’ll be much slower (because it will be dark) and they’ll get much more rush hour traffic. They’ll never have time to deliver everything. Post and parcels will always be delayed, similar to what it is at the moment with the strikes. And there’s no way out of this. A Labour government will just increase net zero targets and create more carbon taxes. Merry Christmas 🎄
you are full of excuses , didnt see a postal worker for a whole week because of some snow , Amazon and DPD and others were out and about , Royal mail wokers are slackers.
The rail postal service is nothing new and they got rid of that years ago after many years of reliable service. Obviously they have realised that its a important service that shouldn't have been cancelled.
@@bentullett6068 26/12 22, Can they regain their slots ? Will rail be used to shift mail or will TPOs return too ? Expect it will be down to costs. Have previously seen RM livered light 'planes around some airports too. Channel Islanders near the Airport know the sound of the daily post ! Probably next day's mail.
@@peterallam6494 rail was used to shift mail to places at speed. Pretty successful in its hey day but then planes took over. Unfortunately now for the plane it is seen as a un environmentally friendly option and the trains they were using on the one route were electric.
when i started at royal mail, we delivered mail and small parcels, and we used a bike, does not get any greener than a bike!!! royal mail introduced vans so we could do bigger parcels and said we were going green...
When I started at Royal Mail ( the post office ) 43 years ago we made deliveries in our cars, then royal mail came in a few years ago and we work from vans our office went from 5 vans to 15, we can't get them in our yard because it is too small and have to park them elsewhere at a cost, the vans are rubbish and when they go to be repaired, the parts they use are cheap and within a week they break down again. We would not be able to have electric vehicles because there wouldn't be enough space to charge them all at one time. e are constantly having to use hire vans . There plan to change to all electric by 2030 will never be acheived.
They (Government) told us no vehicle tax charge because the EV's are 0 emission, saw it a few weeks ago that that is going to change in 2025. They have lost millions of ££'s of revenue from people going electric so that have to claw it back from somewhere. No longer to be called an environmental charge, back to being plain old road tax. Despite all this money, they still can not fix the pot holes !
There is an Electric MEB van at the home opposite mine parked in street. Questioning the driver he recharges it at the local supermarket presumably while he is being paid.
Geoff, I want to be left alone too! The E-Lunacy continues. In what world does a vehicle with a range of around 100 miles represent progress? You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to see that the replacement of petrol and diesel cars with EVs will lead to a huge reduction in personal freedom and mobility. Wouldn't many of us rather just be left alone to drive the cars we choose?
"In what world does a vehicle with a range of around 100 miles represent progress?" The same world where we went from a space shuttle back to a rocket and capsule like we had in the sixties and seventies.
Totally agree with everything you say but then factor in these vans are supposedly environmentally friendly, that sort of goes out the window when you consider all the damage done mining minerals and disposing of batteries that can’t be recycled…..every 3 to 5 years for every vehicle in the country in the next 10 years, that’s without the power demand on the national grid that can’t be met
exactly, plus the lithium used to make the batteries(presumably they will be lithium based?) is a limited, finite resource, there may well not be enough, maybe for the first run of batteries, but what about replacements?
I’ve had a few heated debates with EV fans on you tube and Facebook, in fact lots, can’t help myself trying to educate them, in fact lots, not one, not one has come back to me when I throw in battery production and disposal, they either change the subject or dissapear, Every time
@@joeedwards627 perhaps because your willful ignorance is so frustrating. Try educating yourself, rather than them, about the current state of batteries, including source, production and recycling. Unless, that is, you are content in your little pearl-clutching bubble of ignorance.
@@andygozzo72 Lithium will need to be processed at a rate that is 7000% above current levels. The current levels of mining/distillation are currently declining due to lack of investment......Do the maths!
Why .... because they know that self driving vans can only be implemented after fully electric vehicles are introduced and factored into their operating budget. They'll save big time and save on unionisation risks once they don't need to pay for, manage, and give into a workforce of human drivers.
The other elephant in the room is the electricity infrastructure, our substations are not designed to cope if everyone converted to an electric vehicle and the more that do will create local supply issues to our domestic electricity at home.
They want us all off the road from our vehicles, they've been planning things for a long time, it's much more difficult to pass your driving test now, with the theory/hazard perception tests. They refuse to build more roads as they don't want driving to be more enjoyable, they made loads of bus lanes which was a big flop and a waste of money, now they make loads of cycle lanes, wasting more money and there's loads of them that are rarely used. Bike theft is sky high, they use angle grinders in plain view to steal expensive bikes, there's no funds put into place to stop bike theft so I'd never get a bike. Loads of places are parking for permit holders only and some places are even permit holders on Saturdays too. There making more red routes to prevent parking, soon it'll probably be nowhere to park at all, there's talks of fining you for parking on the kerb. There really trying to push us off the roads, there giving councils powers to fine drivers for more offences. We're probably heading towards a time where there was no cars.
Very true, l got that feeling last year on a visit to England with the government wanting cars off the road, l live in the states, very sad state of affairs.
An excellent reply , in Solihull West midlands GB they have introduced cycle lanes on 40mph roads as its next too motorway junction M42 A41. So as you come off motorway after doing 70+ on motorway it takes a while to get used to the decelarection then you have cycle lane markings and on first bend its extremley dangerous forcing you closer to oncoming. asregular user on said road only seen 1 cyclist usng lane in past 2 yrs 😞. as per electrc vans /cars it takes 100000 miles before you even start too reduce carbon issue , also slavery issue with mining precious metals in africa . company car drivers pay no road tax on their electric vehicles in gb , so replacing battery s on these vehicle s imposible as second hand car buyer.' We're probably heading towards a time where there was no cars.' but the liberal Wa@#ers in councils and facebook have no understanding ..
I worked in RM 10 years ago. At that time, they had a deal with Vauxhall for the Corsa Combi 1.7dti. They were basic vehicles, they even had a radio/tape player, but they only cost £2700! After 3 years, they were replaced & sold at auction, often for more than the initial cost.
I want to be left alone too, Geoff! On the face of it, and e vehicle would suit my usage , barring the need to be parked outside my terraced house to charge it, and the fact I could never afford the costs you have highlighted. The good news is, maybe, that I can get a cheap electric van in a few years from Royal Mail bankrupt stock sales.... As a former electrician with experience on battery locomotives, nothing about Net Zero has ever made sense to me.
But you would need to repair or replace the Van Batteries as RM wouldn’t want the cost of replacing them after 3 years. The Van market would be flooded with thousands of useless Vans, how would this make economic sense to you as the potential 2nd owner?.
The Volvo P1800 engine was capable of doing mega mileage, one as done 3 million miles. Surely it is better to make a simpler petrol car that can last longer with good fuel economy, yet we now design cars to break. I was always told a car has a 25 year life span apparently ones built now have a 15 year life span.
I also want to be left alone. I love my cars and I love driving. I want to drive what I want and where I want without being told what and where I can go.
All the Royal Mail Fiat Doblo vans at my office are diesels with all but one of them being '13 registration, so coming up for 10 years old. They're not being used as diesels should be either, they're driven 2 to 3 miles from the delivery office at the start of the day, parked for the first delivery loop, moved very short distances throughout the day to the next loops with some parcel deliveries in between, then back to the office. The vans are usually driven less than a total of 10 miles a day and the engine never gets warmed up. If you go by the trip computer most of them are averaging 25-30mpg, some of them even less than that. Royal Mail's claim to have the lowest CO2 per parcel is utter BS.
I was still driving car transporters when they started the roll out of Doblos. Delivering one load of new vans to one of RM's depots i asked the workshop about obvious DPF issues, the tech reckoned Fiat had put in a method for you, the RM driver, to be able to trigger static regens when required, similar to how full size trucks are now fitted. Did the regen system fitted work out as planned? i've always wondered about this.
DPF regeneration at least twice a week on my Rural duty and don't get me started on the exhaust fumes coming into the cab ( only stopped by the recirculation button being pressed every minute ! ). Mechanic inspected it when engine was cold & (allegedly) it's OK.
Not sure if they will be bankrupt Geoff ... didn't you mention that under the 'new van' scheme WE are bankrolling it through taxes? Give that clown another huge payrise!!
In Jersey during the hot summer weather postmen could not turn on their air-conditioning in their electric vans as they would run out of juice before they could complete their rounds. Jersey is 9 miles by five miles?
Geoff I want to be left alone too. There's one thing I always comment on to people the UK doesn't have enough electricity to charge all these vehicles. This is a crude sum and doesn't take into account that not all cars will be on charge at the same time nor any inefficiencies in the charging system but it's still extra energy needed but there are 31.9M petrol and diesel cars on the roads in the UK replacing them with electric cars with a 50kW battery equals 1,595,000 Mega Wats of power where are we getting all this extra electricity from?
I've been in haulage over 20 years... Holy crap money is everything if they did this with wagons you would see breakdowns and the grid go off the charts AND... zero profit 📈
Surely you meant NetZero profit. The blackouts are coming, BIG blackouts as we have insufficient generation capacity and as of this evening, the sun has gone down and there's no wind.
I remember people saying mobile phones would never catch on and would be for emergencies only… now I’m watching bull about EV’s on my mobile phone sat in the middle of no where in my electric car..
Great video. One large cruise ship produces more CO2 emissions than every single privately owned car in Europe. Alliance of British Drivers and MAG are fighting tooth and nail to stop this net zero agenda. Nothing to do with saving the planet. The Panama canal recently celebrated its centenary. The sea levels either side of the canal haven't risen one inch in over 100 years. The Maldives are still building holiday resorts. Even though it's the single most vulnerable place on earth for sea level rises. C02 levels are currently 0.04% of the atmosphere. If it drops below 0.015% everything dies. It's a heavy life giving trace gas. Toxic batteries are not the future.
How can the royal mail claim they'll be net zero carbon emissions by 2030? When charging their EVs is going to be mostly generated by electricity produced by fossil fuels, here in the UK most of our electricity is still produced by gas fired power stations.
@@galacticcentral6178 Just heard on the news our local power company has got coal fired generators already warmed up, ready for a coming spike in demand this week due to the big freeze in the UK...... You can't make this up......😁⚠️
I agree with everything you said, you hit the nail on the head when you said "what about the kids" - I have this conversation with my brother " what about our kids" & thire future. Well I don't think there is any further in this country, it's been going down hill for a good few years now & now I am waiting for it to burst. I have 6 year's to retirement & I am off to sunnyer shores,at that time my daughter will be 18 & I am hopping she will come with us. This country is finished.
when you retire in 6 years time it will be to late, you wont be able to move , restrained in a 6 mile village, hard luck, we all let it happen, never thought of who would pick up the tab, our children and grandchildren, like I say if the worker ant dies, the nest dies
You need to see it through the eyes of the CEO. He gets paid a stupid amount no matter how much he screws up, and when it goes bust, he just gets his MP mates to give him another company to screw up. None of the loss of money matters, there is loads of us to screw for more TAX.
Nice one fella brilliantly presented and great content. If the Royal Mail keep buying EV’s as you said they will definitely go bust as Hydrogen cell cars will dominate the market by 2030 and these EV’s will be worthless. Did you know a Welsh judge invented the first hydrogen cell… Sir William Robert Grove, FRS FRSE (11 July 1811 - 1 August 1896) was a Welsh judge and physical scientist. He anticipated the general theory of the conservation of energy, and was a pioneer of fuel cell technology. He invented the Grove voltaic cell. Sir William Robert Grove, FRS FRSE (11 July
@@jackmorgan1677 that’s right, how many commenters on here who are rightly fed up with this WEF government they may have unknowingly voted for will trip out next election and unknowingly vote for a different WEF Party, the opinion polls are depressing
@@SaltimusMaximus The polls are also skewed. The old phase "There's lies, damned lies and statistics" come to mind. Just look how quickly the government buckled on their nimbyist energy policies once we had a couple of days of snow; they ended up going back to good old reliable coal to get us through the winter. That's because they know where public sentiment really is
Have been saying this for some time, a complete scam. We’ve had the Peugeot vans for 6mths which started at about 136 miles fully charged, they are now down to 119 fully charged ( 12.5 % drop).
Here is a fact that many people don’t know about, during COP 26 in Glasgow, Jaguar supplied 240 e-pace and i-pace cars and Tesla supplied 21 cars based at Gleneagles for official transport. Unfortunately there are nowhere near enough chargers in Glasgow and Gleneagles to charge the cars so they had to bring in 30 diesel generators to charge the cars. Kinda defeats the the purpose of the exercise really
Another thing to think about is that garage mechanics that are old school and only deal with petrol and diesel will be redundant and a new breed of mechanics will have to train - at a cost - to be able to maintain the electric vehicles. I think the RM strikes has been instigated and when RM is either sold off, privatised or shut down, the strikers/workers will be blamed for being 'greedy'. It's so infuriating
Part of the current strike dispute is Royal Mail introducing franchising, self employed workers and owner drivers. So the plan is probably massively reduce the fleet, rather than replace it and have employees take on the burden. Easy way to hit net zero is get rid of your fleet
@@GeoffBuysCars it’s an asset stripping exercise, not a righteous moral race to net zero. Blaming the carbon footprint of the company is another way to reduce public services. Services across UK will be scaled back because they will also be getting rid of the use of aircraft to transport mail across the UK quickly, to reduce the carbon footprint of the company apparently
You know what's coming in 2030 . Everything is being put into place as we speak .You will not be left alone, you also know this .life is going to become increasingly difficult and frustrating for anyone who has the eyes to see. Prepare heart and mind and become less reliant on the things they tell us we need . You're an intelligent bloke so don't be ruled by your emotions . Look to what's important in your life and leave the fluff behind. BE THE MAN YOUR FAMILY NEEDS . God bless you brother .
2:25 Due to the buying power of the post office they get a lot of money off (most commercial entities when buying in bulk get up to 50% off list price) - last time they brought the transit vans - Ford closed down the production line for 6 months just to build the order for the post office - a number of these vans went straight to storage for up to 2-3 years before being used due to the price they where given.
@@GeoffBuysCars I know about this because a friend that had ordered a transit van was told it was going to be built on this date/time... he then had to wait 6 months for his van to be built because they were building a big order first
sorry, that is my fault - yes they are 4 arms of the brand/company... Royal Mail, Post Office and Crown Post Offices (these are the big high street Post Offices) where the smaller or sub-post offices are franchise
Adrian Bowley 7 days ago Geoff I’m an RM truck driver , we’re in a nasty industrial dispute as pretty much everybody knows , but what isn’t reported is that we are in the process of being bought out by a group called VESA , venture capitalists owned by a Czech billionaire based in Luxembourg, Can you see where this going ? So our current ceo is going all out to defeat the nasty CWU , If he does , RM is going to become a gig economy business , majority of staff phoney self employed , vans ( yes the electric ones your describing ) won’t be owned by Royal Mail they will be leased by the employee , so the costs you describe will not be theirs ,
A few things. I don’t think they need a charger per vehicle as some will be out and about, so they’re shared. Still 80mill. I would’ve also thought the clever idea is city/tow centre and village delivering well within the vans range is what’s needed, everything else, motorway, long distance is cleaner diesel or petrol vehicles, so not all of the 41,500 is EV. I’ve always wanted an ev, but not now. Until they do come up with the next battery tech, lithium ones are not the way forward, and it’s a rich persons playground atm.
Wow! 😯 Those figures only make sense if you want to destroy a business to make it cheap for a buy out! It ain't rocket science, but what really grinds my gears is that they think the public are stupid and thus have no idea what's going on here (and not just with the Royal Mail). Geoff I want to be left alone, too! 👍
Wow those figures look suspect and made to look bad for a reason. 70p per kwh of course it is. I pay 8.25p per kwh for 5 hours a night and he expects me to believe RM can't do better than 70p. Batteries need changing every 3 years also seems suspect. RM will not be able to improve those figures in 10 years time? Why aren't you questioning what you are being told? We don't have the luxury to be left alone and if you fall for this bullshit you are going to be poked with a much bigger stick than if you actually did something.
Unfortunately, most of the general public are stupid, or just prefer to stick their heads in the sand in regards to issues which don't immediately affect them. Until, of course, it does affect them and then it's too late.
I don't think the post office will make it past 2025. I just heard that a first class stamp costs 95p and I for one don't post envelopes unless they are prepaid by someone else. They also largely fail to deliver next day on first class so that won't help. On the upside. Though some of us could see all this bad stuff coming, we are now reaching a point where the slumbering masses are waking up and getting agitated. The important thing is to not let them panic. If we are united and calm we can make it through the "great reset" ..eyes open, pay attention. BTW you are doing a great job 👍
Some odd assumptions in this video. For example, what Royal Mail delivery van is doing 150 miles a day? That’s the range of the van, not it’s daily duty.
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Electrifiying everything does seem to be a joke and no infrastructure to support it at the mo.
Feel sorry for the posties not being able to use their EV van heaters in the winter.
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Your figures, like most people who don't fully understand EV tech, are bollocks.
Battery life is not determined by miles, it's determined by charge cycles. A single charge a day for an RM van is ~350 charges a year (accounting for some bank holidays etc).
Cycle life of a typical NMC/NMA battery bank is 2500 cycles. So that's replace every 7 years - in reality it will be closer to 10 years as the 2500 cycle life is based on a 80% DOD (depth of discharge), and with the vans doing only 100 miles a day on average they won't be doing an 80% cycle rate every day.
Newer vans are more likely to be based on LFP batteries - they have a life of 5000 cycles, extending battery life to 15-20 years.
@@blower1 In the case of Royal Mail, the vans mentioned are local driven vans and most of them do very low millage a day, that's especial true of the delivery van. when they get to there delivery area the are stationary most of the day, The driver uses the van like a store room for all the mail, parks up and goes off on foot to deliver, after they have gone so far they then move the van to probably the next street or so, then off on foot delivering to your houses etc. So alot of them are not charged every day, maybe every few days.
@@blower1 Interesting to read this and yes it makes sense but still doesent equate to the number of charging points needed if all are electric and require charging and also how green is the eltericity supply st the moment, (National Grid reusing caol fired pawer stations tonight to meet demand) the country is just not ready for these users to change to all electric
@@julesviolin JUST LOVE THE COMMENT IT HELPS WHEN YOU ARE SO SO LOW ON THE ISSUE WELL DONE AND WELL SAID !! A SMILE IS ALWAYS WORTH IT !!
Common practice in the UK is to employ very highly paid but incompetent CEOs who run their companies into a financial black hole and then recommend selling the company cheap to a foreign outfit.
Spot on. Experts know best.
Czech Sphinx already has 24%. Royal mail won't have any vans soon and will rely on driver owned vans like Evri and Amazon.
@@telx2010 There's no fool like an expert.
The company that buys will probably be Blackrock or Vanguard.
Ah, but you forgot to mention, they then move on to pastures new on a massive pay increase
I'm an HGV mechanic and have been since leaving school in 1979, I'm fed up of being told to what to drive, eat,do etc, being charged stupid money for fuel, by a government intent on taxing the life out of us, diesel and petrol cars are so much cleaner now, but I have younger people telling me that I know nothing and I'm stupid, really? this video you have done is spot on, Geoff.... I want to be left alone 👍 great video
I was in the motor trade and I agree with you. The Internal Combustion Engines have been around a long time (1879) but they have evolved continuously over the years becoming highly efficient engines. The electric car has also been out a long time (1890) and they still can't get it to do everything that an ICE can do. Too many people are telling us what to do without them doing any research whatsoever.
agreed. Eat fry ups, smoke Woodbines, drive 20 year old diesels and have coal fires. You'll still live as long as those runners/cyclists/triathletes/parkrunners who drop dead with heart failure. I'm serious, apart from the Woodbines.
I run a 1979 Cadillac Coupe Deville 8ltr V8 on LPG .If i had a LNG petrol station near me i would run that but strangely there are on a few in the UK .
No MOT ,no road tax,cheap classic car insurance ,is gaining in value and half price LPG.
I checked the emissions and they are next to nothing .Goes twice the milage between oil changes and spark plugs .
On petrol on a run the underworked V8 gets mid 20,s so as LPG is half price it's like a 50 mpg car .
It runs absolutely no difference between petrol Vs LPG .
anything to do with energy past and present is always politically based. rest assured, oil will never run out.
@@rocklover7437 you still need a MOT
So the local gossip near me is that Amazon were so insistant that all the vans at their local warehouse in Coalville were electric that they had to hire in 30 deisel generators to charge them all up. Also, the range was so poor they hired in 50 diesel vans which were'nt Amazon liveried to ensure all the deliveries could be done. I had an Amazon delivery of two items yesterday, the first of which came in a grey Amazon electric van and 10 minutes later the rest of our order rocked up in an Enterprise branded Transit.
oh my god that is absolutely brilliant. pinning this comment.
@Geoff Buys Cars Thank you, Please acknowledge though that this is heresay, although I have heard the same thing from a number of sourses in the same area, many of which work for me who have partners working for Amazon.
@@shieldaigbencher it's in line with what i'm hearing too.
This is utterly ridiculous isn’t it? Off book overhead costs don’t count I suppose!👀🙄🐑🙈🧐😎😜
@@G58 "This is utterly ridiculous isn’t it?"
Correct but when all this bs doesn't affect those pushing this crap it will go ahead with it anyway.
I’ve just happened upon this channel. Despite us being an all electric family, with solar, your wish to be left alone resonates 100% with me. This may sound contradictory, but after nearly 70 years on this planet, I’ve never felt the sense that we’ve descended into insanity, to this extent…and we’ve been through a few things.
The joy, optimism and sense of freedom we once felt, is ebbing away at a pace.
Well said 👍
Hi Geoff. Totally agree. My employer is going down the same route. I have to take my van home because I am on call. With a range (fully loaded, heater lights etc) of 100 miles, I can get home and back to my place of employment and possibly visit one or two sites but not get home again. Total crap, not thought out and according to my employer no going back.
Glad I'm retiring in a couple of months!
Thanks for the video, your research and your time making and posting this🙃
My ex royal mail Vauxhall Combo 1.7di is 20 years old and has now done 460,000 miles still on its original engine, gearbox.
It cost me £1500 14 years ago and it still does around 800 miles per fill up.
Its the most reliable vehicle Ive owned. Good job because my business relies upon it.
I hired a Nissan eNV200 for a month for my mobile valeting business. I cannot charge at home.
once I'd loaded the van for work. I was getting 50 miles per charge!
Public charging is sketchy at best, its also expensive. The range is too short, takes too long.
I gave the thing back after 2 weeks as I was having to cancel appointments.
The local Amazon depot only use their electric vans for deliveries within 15 miles of the depot because of the range issues.
My buddy works for British gas. He has been issued an EV van that he takes home. he cannot charge at home so he spends 4 hours of his working day on pay charging the thing.
This NetZero eco BS will see us all back to the stone age except we wont be allowed to have a fire to keep warm.
We won’t be able to put a light on either!
Yes, the sad thing is that many of us can see the problems but try telling it to the green brigade who are sold completely on anything and everything that anybody claims will help save the planet.
There's a video on here that explains it all very well, including the fact that combustion engined vehicles (all of them, not just cars), only accounts for 3% of the world's emissions. Switching to EVs all over the world won't save that 3% as there are emissions involved in building and running electric vehicles, so in terms of "saving the planet" - the main selling point - how much is actually going to be saved in emissions, if anything at all? It's insane.
On the positive side, to charge up all those EVs there won't be enough power left to run the server farms needed for the 15 mile cities and social credit score with 24/ surveiilence devices every 20m across the 🎉whole country.
The whole country could be brought to a standstill simply by plugging in all EVs at the same time?
That's if Royal Mail still exists in 2030.
Net Zero is virtually impossible.
Royal Mail surviving to 2030 is an impossibility
They are talking now that it's facing bankruptcy.
@@raypilgrim6905 they've thrown in the towel re: xmas, probably be on strike every xmas until everyone completely shuns them for being unfit for purpose anyway.
Death by thousands ev vans.
UK emits approximately 1% of co2 into the atmosphere. UK Govt could throw another £ 100 Trillion at that 1 % and i could guarantee that 1% will still be there, I would like our IDIOTS in Parliament to stop wasting our taxes on UN - ACHIEVABLE TARGETS like Net Zero, there's only one way to almost achieve that 0 % is to have a DEAD EARTH like the MOON or MARS,
Most of us in the motor trade have watched this insane move to battery EV’s in disbelief for years just waiting for the penny to drop & people realise it ain’t gonna work..we live in a world run by 🤡
We live in a world run by clowns, while continue to vote for them. We all want to be so virtuous green, socialist and progressive. Those conservative common sense values of thirty years ago are so 'bigoted' and 'wrong'...
Agreed!
I read that British Gas moved to EVs for their HomeServe gas service engineers: customer complaints have gone up since there are fewer service calls per shift as valuable time is now spent charging up the vans.
Being a clown is just a disguise for being a malicious psychopath eugenicist.
The only penny that needs to drop for people is they arnt going to have a car. The powers that be are fully aware it wont work, calculated they might be, its only Joe public that are clowns.
In the unlikely event that Royal Mail ever does make it to net zero, a book of second class stamps will end up costing about £30 to cover the costs 😂
long before that, no one will be buying stamps due to cost and as the majority of mail now is junk mail it will also be too expensive for these companies to send the junk mail by post as well
@@johnwaddell7239 well that's one benefit...
yes i think that could be £300
I imagine things will be delivered by A,I powered drones eventually.
Many years ago, I used to visit a Royal Mail workshop to repair/service the AC Units in their security vans: The Depot Workshop was state of the art.... it had every latest gadget you could think of....(Mostly covered in dust I noted.) .. I thought at the time, no wonder postage is so expensive and rising:
This switch by them to EV's is simply bonkers..... they are losing money on a daily basis due to their lack of foresight and insisting on "the Emperors New Clothes."
It's gonna end in tears, believe me.
Problem is Geoff, before we can be left alone in peace, we need to fight for it. It has always been the way. Wish us all a good fight when the time comes. All the best mate.
What about us, especially kids, being allowed to breathe clean air?
@@leswallace2426 What about it? You will still be breathing clean air. Do you even know anything about today's internal combustion engines and how clean they are? Have you heard of Euro5? Ridiculous victim card type statement. We need to keep our economy moving, and these EV gimmicks are a step in the wrong direction for commercial vehicles.
Geoff, I want to be left alone too...
The WEF and agenda 21/30 will make none of us are unless we finally grow a spine and say 'enough'. We have the power even if it feels as if we don't. Merry Christmas 🌲
Geoff, I want to be left alone too.
I try to speak to people about the 2030 agenda and they look at me with that 'wtf you talking about' look on their face. It's too much for them to comprehend, all they care about is materialistic bullshit and their comfy lifestyle, which if they just opened their eyes just a little, it might enlighten them enough to actually think about standing up to the globalist bullshit because it's those globalists that are about to take away their comfy lifestyles.
yep...'But what can i do, i am just one person'...said 8 billion people!
I fully agree👍 hopefully the majority will grow balls and take a stand
@@wellifthemediasaysit Spot on . Your comment is so true .Sounds like a lot of the people i know ffs.
Got to stop voting for the established parties, people just trot out and switch one colour to the other, they know that and they rely on it
The company are actively trying to run themselves into the ground in every way possible. I work for RM and we have 100% electric fleet in our office and its a bloody nightmare. Not enough charging ports, charger cables keep going missing so we have to borrow someone else's and the drop off of battery power in the winter is massive. Left depot with 50 miles remaining, drove 4 miles up the road and it dropped to 30 miles. Had to put on eco mode which in turn switches off the heating, did my round and when i got back to the depot i had like 15 miles left having only drove about 12 miles all day. Give me an engine any day, electric still isnt there.
Great to hear from someone who experiences it day to day!
your comment about charger cables disappearing rings bells, pdas disappear where I work, so another agency who's staff have their own delivery software package on their phones has been brought in. Sadly there is bloody-mindedness on both sides with most staff, incl. middle managers caught in the cross-fire.
I drove first generation 2013 electric belingo vans a couple of years ago as part of a highway job, had a real world range of 60miles which dropped to 45miles in winter with 24k/wh batteries.
Worked well for visiting site but not up to delivery work. They lasted 9 year's before the fleet was replaced but only did around 40k miles so nowhere near 100k. I think time will tell on the royal mail vans, I wouldn't be surprised if the batteries are kept well beyond the first 100k, they certainly push their petrol fleet to the max and I expect the maintenance costs can easily exceed £600 some year's. The UKIP article was definitely looking at the extreme plus Royal Mail sell their van's on of course generating some revenue.
We got one of the Mercs. 80 mile range, but turn on the windscreen demister and watch the miles drop....
@@carthagodelenda9014 totally they are really crap
Geff you are not alone. This needs to get really crazy before we get to the tipping point. Hang in there.
I don’t think we will reach tipping point. The cage door will shut and people will say ‘oooooh this is what they were all on about!’
@@GeoffBuysCars NASA lies are the easiest to spot.
Why don’t we all become activists and target electric vehicles and the numb headed people of 2022 who think eliminating oil and gas is a good thing. What I’d love to see is everyone going back in time before oil was discovered in Scotland and see how we get to where we are now without it
This got really crazy from day one of lockdown in the uk, this needs to be stopped now, there is too many hidden agenda's and there's more going on that the people are aware of
@@GeoffBuysCars agree. The strikes will end soon and the govt will get their way through beligerance. Any one with any sense would leave. The rest if us are stuck here through inertia and being told by family we're nuts. Those of us that are left will be surrounded by the dullards that can't tie their shoelaces and we're left working 3 times as hard.
Well said Geoff. It's not about having agendas or being conspiracy theorists, there are huge numbers of us just like you who want to be left alone to live our lives simply and quietly and not be subject to the government's various agendas and/or the agendas of the various fanatics out there. That means we do have to rip into their plans and risk being called conspiracy theorists. And I did make it to the end of the video.
Thanks for watching to the end! Give us a subscribe because some other things have come to light since making this video, i've got some great videos coming this week.
I made it to the end of the video too, but I still think it's about having agendas and being conspiracy theorists (no offence). You can't have it both ways and expect to live in a functioning society while being left alone at the same time. Even Geoff's supposedly simple request towards the end to "just" be allowed access to cheap fuel (among other things) comes across as him not thinking rationally. There's no human right to that, but you're welcome to set sail and try to find your own source of oil and set up the infrastructure to process it if you like. Funnily enough, it would be much simpler for someone who wants to remain isolated and independent to fuel an EV vehicle with solar to travel anywhere they like at very little cost, but you'd have to stop reading misleading Facebook articles written by politicians with unashamedly transparent agendas to realise that.
@@dan_ You still didn't address the main point of Geoff's argument: the PO were making a blindingly bad economic decision based on the green agenda so popular with CEOs etc these days. Instead, in the end you settled for calling those of us who question these things as people with an agenda and conspiracy theorists, despite your "no offence" disclaimer. You final condescending comment warning us off reading Facebook articles wasn't necessary.
You can live in a functioning society and be left alone. That doesn't mean untouched by society or the policies of its rule-makers. It means once we've found a decent enough way to live our lives we don't appreciate the powers that be messing us about on whatever happens to be their current political whim. Remember when their political whim was that diesel was the way to go? That went well didn't it.
What was with the "squirrel" of someone being welcome to set sail and find their own oil supply and then setting up the infrastructure to process it? Last time I looked there were some very big companies already specialising in doing just that. Let me see, Aramco, Shell, Esso, BP to name but a few.
As for someone who wanted to live alone fueling an EV via solar and then travelling where they like at very little cost, dear me, must have missed all those eco-greens in my neck of the woods. I don't recall any fleets of remotely practical vehicles that run only via solar attached to the vehicle itself. So you have to charge from your big array on your property (and size is limited without planning permission) before setting out. Once the government switches tax to electric vehicles (which it will) you won't be getting away with running an EV without giving them their tax fee regardless of where you electricity comes from. Plus of course unless you only do out and return to base journeys you'll have to recharge away from base and pay the fee.
BTW further to the cheap fuel access request: just why hasn't fuel fallen back to where it was before Ukraine became the excuse for everything from bad weather to a shortage of yoghurt? (I made the latter up).
It is worth mentioning that the Transit-sized vans are almost always in excess of 3500 kgs MAM (ie Gross Vehicle weight), because of the additional weight of the batteries, which will limit the eligibility of drivers who passed their driving test after 1997 unless they took a further class C test. Also the C and C1 licences require the licence to be renewed every 5 years, with eyesight and medical fitness certification being required. There is apparently a temporary ruling to increase that weight limit for EV and hybrid models, to 4250 kgs for drivers who pass their test after 1997 but the vehicle, if over 3500 kgs has apparently to be fitted with a tachograph and limited to 60mph. A veritable minefield for operators and drivers.
Almost 10 years ago I bought a little diesel car for retirement, been totally trouble free and road tax exempt, I could never contemplate ever buying into this expensive racket, regards and well said
Did the same. 2009 Ford Fusion 1400 diesel. 60 mpg
Did the same. Tesla Model 3 costs me 2p per mile. Servicing cost £0 and doesn't spew out shit.
@@GrahamWathey Until you have to replace the battery 🤣
@@paulone-off7286 not with a 1 million mile battery.
@@GrahamWathey until it breaks, which it will
Mate, well done for working out what’s going on, most people are so distracted they have no idea what’s coming
Yup, plus all those who willingly took these "safe" & effective jabs" to save granny will be part of that "carbon" they so drastically want to reduce...
We now live in a strange world where since covid people will enthusiastically do whatever the goverment tells them - without questioning it. Top analysis btw.
Don’t worry, that enthusiasm will be short lived.
@@traceywindle962 too right.
not me they don't..
People literally following arrows on the floor and a traffic light system at the entrance to a shop. Tell me it wasn't a massive psyop 😂
@FreeMobileGames4u those who did not take the jab have no regrets with our choice
A few year's ago Royal Mail acquired electric tractors to work on the station taking mail out, then bringing mail in. from the train's. Two yer's later they were knackered and wouldn't work. They replaced Petrol tractor's with Morris Miner engine's geared right down that had been doing the job for year's "without any troubles at all" So yes the senior managr's in London really do know what they are doing??
You actually mentioned one thing the RM might have had in mind: what if they are expecting fuel prices to become stupidly expensive so that the petrol fleet is unworkable? (And if they are so divorced from reality that they believe that windmills and solar panels will make electricity cheap?)
I believe RM has been ineptly run for deliberate reasons. And I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories at any level.
Totally agree Geoff 👍, seems to me there will come a time very soon where we will have to fight back purely to be left alone!
bear in mind the new army of newly arriving fit young men waiting for training in their UK wide 4* hotels, sorry barracks that will be delighted to be paid to quell any uprisings,, just what the Aussies did...
@@EelingStudios It's also the arms they would be given.
Coivid PLANdemic was the big start of not being left alone
I live in France and the postal service near me went electric, now they often deliver in rented diesel vans as the electric ones aren’t reliable.
Again #crazy they really need to reach out to arrival but even then there batteries just bit better believe lucid has lead so far
I saw a photo of a yard full of over 1000 dead EVs that were initially purchased for Paris government work.
I live in Germany and the Deutsche Post uses StreetScooter electric vans. Range is around 100 miles. DP bought the company that makes them, and regards the vans as a stop-gap until vans with much better range become available.
In view of the fact that DHL/DP trucks frequently deliver goods around the UK, but I am yet to see a Royal Mail truck delivering stock to my local Lidl here in Deutschland I am guessing DP is run by a higher standard of human being.
Geoff I’m an RM truck driver , we’re in a nasty industrial dispute as pretty much everybody knows , but what isn’t reported is that we are in the process of being bought out by a group called VESA , venture capitalists owned by a Czech billionaire based in Luxembourg,
Can you see where this going ? So our current ceo is going all out to defeat the nasty CWU ,
If he does , RM is going to become a gig economy business , majority of staff phoney self employed , vans ( yes the electric ones your describing ) won’t be owned by Royal Mail they will be leased by the employee , so the costs you describe will not be theirs ,
complete insanity. look forward to hearing more!
Why are we not hearing this? I have only heard of the pay despite, not the sell-off & billionaire.
@@Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming the bbc did touch on it a few weeks ago with an interview with the c e o simon Thompson , he of course swerved the answer and wouldn’t be drawn on it but the company concerned v e s a have quietly been buying more shares , they are at 22% at the moment I believe, at 25% they can launch a takeover if I understand it correctly
@@Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming All you will hear on mainstream news is the pay dispute. Pay is the least of the problems that the CWU is fighting, pay is pretty far down the list in fact.
@@Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming The Union execs are probably getting their palms crossed with silver by somebody.
Postage prices (letters and large letters) use to increase by 1p a year. In recent years, a 2nd class letter/large letter has increased on average by 10p a year and we might moan about it at the time of the increase, but then we just accept it and it becomes the norm. Price hikes will become larger and larger year upon year, that's how they will pay for it. Every aspect of the postal service is in decline and will only get worse. Very often, I don't get a postal delivery because of staff shortages. My local Royal Mail delivery office currently have approximately 21 vacancies.
Great video, we need more guys and girls who make videos like yours to start talking about these issues and raising awareness of what we are dealing with!
Got some great videos in the pipeline with things that have been sent to me since I made this and the Oxford video...
The EV market is totally stuffing us in the taxi trade. We run a fleet of 8 seaters for airport and seaport transfers. We have resorted to buying secondhand diesels as all the new 8 seaters seem to only be available in EV with ridiculously low range. Our brookers large order with Vauxhall has ended as the Vivaro is now only available as EV with 96 or 142 mile range. This would constitute maybe one or two jobs before recharge instead of a 10 hour shift covering 100's of miles. The demand for used V class Mercedes by taxi drivers has pushed used prices so high we have had drivers sell them for more than they purchased them for after 2 years of hard taxi work. I speculate unless things change we will cease in 18 months to 2 years as nothing on the market will be able to do the job and make a profit. Even if we could source suitable vehicles licensing authorities are talking about bringing in a ban on Petrol and diesel taxis 5 years earlier than the official ban. All road policies are based around large cities where the low range is manageable. Those trading in rural areas will soon be in real trouble.
Luke this is so interesting. Pop me an email over if you want to discuss more maybe there's a video in this. People need to know. geoffbuyscars@gmail.com or direct message me on FB.
Sent you an email.
Luke this is the Corporate (NZ) agenda being used to decimate smaller enterprises using the #greenhandgrenade, the Govt is either complicit (aka corrupt) or stupid (both equally valid) and had fallen for the globalists’ plan, which will end when you “own nothing, and will be happy”.
I own an independent Land Rover repair shop in Ireland and I have been saying this for years. There is a big problem with EV’s They don’t work!!! And they’re not going to work.
They want us all penned into cities
More people are waking up to the crippling cost of net zero. ( No such thing)
what gullible idiot really believes there such a thing as net zero , how naive can someone be ?
Crippling cost? My combined car costs are about £130/month less in an EV.
@@esm7708 You need to understand what net zero is. It'll bankrupt you.
@@CyrilSneer123 by providing the cheapest electric to the grid
Net zero is a scam... I recently booked 2 3 day trips to Europe. At the end of the booking, it gave me the option to pay for my offset LMFAO!! What a scam! It's pure genius.
What does that mean? pay for your offset? And, how is it pure genius
@@annag5541 it means pay more money to the company so you can feel virtuous you helped change something. That you did not.
It probably works something like this. Tour company has a deal with a third party to provide carbon offsets. Tour company's only involvement is to provide the check box, for which they get a cut of the loot. Carbon offset company sends money to it's wholly owned subsidiary, which plants loblolly pines to replace the ones that they just cut down and sent to the paper mill and/or EU approved renewable fuel plant. Carbon offset company reports "N trees were planted on your behalf."
Soon it would be mandatory rather than an option!
I work for RM at Dorchester DO, and have driven the very vans you are talking about. The Merc vans have a range of 80 miles. You’ll be lucky if you get 20-30 miles. The Mercs are absolutely terrible to drive also. They are no good for parcel deliveries. In fact, if you go down to Dorchester delivery office today you’ll find all of the Mercs have now been sent to London delivery offices and swapped for Peugeots now. They were not fit for purpose.
The only reason Dorchester DO went to all electric was because Prince Charles wanted them in Poundbury.
I work for a bus company and they have 2 electric buses that are essentially tokens bought to flex and show off for PR they're nice to drive and the range is perfectly decent for city work however they cost an extra £250k, have less loading capacity the heating on them is rubbish and they have a habbit of breaking down in really awkward places. The engineering workshop are not allowed to do any repairs to them as it voids the warranty and of course they take up extra space and pose a massive fire risk. They have ordered 30 more which will arrive at some point this year and the timing for charging the buses and bringing them in and out has to be planned as there isn't space for enough chargers. The two token buses we have got are limited to 45mph which means they cannot safely use the motorway or dual carriageways.
How long does it take to charge the battery and how big is the range? And what size buses are these...? Great comment by the way!
I feel the stress, being a car enthusiasts all my life 2020 was sadly the last year I took getting interested in new vehicles. I find no love in anything that will be produced in the next coming years due to these government agendas. I have more interest in buying a classic car or a older less advanced car than a new EV scam vehicle.
When India, Pakistan, Africa, Russia, 3rd world countries all have electric cars then I'll believe the bullshit 🙄.
They have no soul agendas are made by couple rich who want again more control. Yes i get it but its not cheaper and yes fresh air as drives past really do get it but……hmmmm
No cars after about 2007 do anything for me
I feel i must also add that......The sound of an EV is the sound of despair; don't they sound ghastly..!?
@@thephilpott2194 that's if you can hear them some have no sound at all. Had a few sneak up behind me when crossing over a junction.
Hi Geoff!, I run a 2005 Peugeot 407 with 86k on the clock. I regularly see 60+ mpg on motorways and 45+ on urban cycle. I am still only paying for tyres, brakes and battery plus servicing. The exhaust is original. I did look to replace it last year but changed the clutch instead (£990.00- it’s a dual flywheel something or other) it was the better option!
A few of my neighbours run electric and I know that they laugh at my car but I simply point to our local power station that runs on Irish Sea gas and ask if their energy source is carbon neutral, I never get an answer!
Let’s face it would you or me be happy to have power rationing and sit in the dark knowing a load of senseless pillocks are charging their EVs?
Really?
One or two have gone out and bought a petrol car, small ford or similar, to use while the EV charges. Who’s laughing now?
WHY THE HELL DO I NEED TO BE FORCED TO GO ELECTRIC!
WHY DO ANY OF US NEED AN EV?
LEAVE ME ALONE - I AM HAPPY.
PS - subscribed! Cheers buddy!
And, of course they're not electric till they're charged. So where does the charge come from? Oh! a fossil fuelled power station. Sorry, dont quite grasp the logic here
The EV thing is a complete scam. Whether it's designed to boost the ailing car industry or to create jobs and therefore more tax money or what I don't know, but it's not difficult to work out. I run a 2009 Jaguar XF 3 litre diesel and it will still cost less to run over the next ten years than any electric car, because what EVangelists never take into account is the actual buying cost of the new car.
In fact most are leased, so it's all 'dead' money, you'll never own it so every payment is a 100% loss.
As for emissions, even Volvo admit that you'll have to do 70,000 miles before you're creating less emissions than their equivalent combustion engine model (based on the XC60). So my Jag has done 60,000 in 13 years so should be good for another 10-15 or more. Then there's all the infrastructure that will need to be built and so on. I haven't seen the emissions value of building all that taken into account, or the problem with the vert toxic lithium waste from new batteries, and old spent batteries (they're virtually useless when they can only charge to 60% of their original value I believe).
A couple of other things that haven't been thought through is who is going to pay thousands of pounds for new batteries when the car is (for example) as old as my Jag, and what are people going to do about charging who live in terraced houses or flats? The majority of British people do not have a driveway or garage.
During the cold spell a couple of weeks before Xmas I was speaking to an Amazon driver. He drives a electric Mercedes and it is supposed to have a range of 90 miles. He told me that the best he's seen out of it was about 60 miles and most days he has to find somewhere to charge it but during the cold spell the range had dropped to less than 30 miles so he was using a hired diesel van because his round would be impossible in the EV. It's cold again this week so I would guess he's using a hire van again. Honestly, how the hell are the people responsible for making these stupid decisions even allowed out unaccompanied?
@Sam Brooks a good point! There needs to be more thought and development put into EVs before Joe Public is legislated into them.
@@sambrooks7862 I could be slightly out on the figures, but a friend of mine, a plumber, bought a Mercedes Vito EV not long ago and couldn't get more than 60 miles out of it. A lot of his work is in the city, 30 miles away so it was touch and go whether he got home or not. And this was in the summer, and he probably wasn't carrying the weight a loaded parcel van would be carrying. He's currently suing the dealer as he was told 160 miles minimum. totally unfit for purpose.
Geoff I want to be left alone too. We are horribly over tegulated and run by numpties making bad decisions and rewarded handsomely for it.
@ohno467 yes defo of stupidity is making the same mistake time after time but expecting a different outcome .
I'm just wondering that car manufacturers have got so far down that rabbit hole so to speak that many are to scared to shut EV manufacturing completely off. I dread the day almost when a massive apartment complex goes up, not because an EV started it but made it difficult to put out, I'll keep driving my ice vehicles
There's a cost you're missing - so you've got a yard full of Royal Mail vans - how do you charge all of them at once? Or even half of them? What sort of electrical/charging infrastructure will you need at the depot? There's also another cost - I've had my hybrid car for a year - which I mainly use on short runs (so fully electric) I've already run over three cats. They just don't hear you coming - how many cats will 40,000 silent Royal Mail vans be squashing per year?
The local post office resurfaced the parking area this year and now going to dig it up for electric vehicle charging points great planning
The post office service around here still uses the old Vauxhall Corsa MK2 Combos finished in pink.
And long may it stay that way!!!
We have loads of 07 Combos doing the rounds!
Good vans they are, parts are peanuts for them
It's impossible to ignore this clown world we're living in, but I'd love to be left alone. Just get them all out of my head so I can live in peace. I've completely had enough.
I just want to be left alone are not truthful words from a Utbe videoer.
I am with you Geoff.The agenda is starting to collapse and the sooner people awaken to it,the better for everybody
Could it be that Royal Mail do not buy ANY of their vans, but that they lease them?
It seems to me that current EV sales are propped up by lease purchase & PCP packages that effectively mask the overall cost of the vehicle to the user.
That works until (as we saw in the past with Ford) there is a surplus of ex-lease vehicles that cannot be sold, so new lease deals go up in price?
As you state in this video and on others: older EVs need new batteries, and there is a surplus of private used EVs.
When the value of those used EVs inevitably fall, the economics will change.
And by then, fleet buyers like Royal Mail will have little choice: their infrastructure will be orientated around EVs and IC vehicles will eventually no longer be an option.
'You'll own nothing - but you will be FAR from happy!'
I work in local council waste disposal. Anyway, the powers that be decided to demo an electric Refuse vehicle. So, this EV turns up, on a trailer driven by a dirty diesel tractor unit because it couldn't make it up north by it's own power. Morning arrives and the vehicle goes out but it had to go back to the depot before the round had finished because the battery was running out (it lasted approx 6 hours). This was in summer too, so there was limited lights being used, no washers, no wipers and no heating (we daren't use the AC). It went back the day after................on the back of a trailer.....................driven by a dirty diesel tractor unit 🙂
I too just wish to be left alone. I found this piece to be very apt over the last almost 3 years: “The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
I want to be left alone too. I also can't helo but think there is a sinister motive. Nothing seems to make sense if you actually scratch the surface even a little.
It just seems like a convenient way to screw us over? There's so many more things that could be done instead of just taxing the death out of something.
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Geoff I’m an RM truck driver , we’re in a nasty industrial dispute as pretty much everybody knows , but what isn’t reported is that we are in the process of being bought out by a group called VESA , venture capitalists owned by a Czech billionaire based in Luxembourg,
Can you see where this going ? So our current ceo is going all out to defeat the nasty CWU ,
If he does , RM is going to become a gig economy business , majority of staff phoney self employed , vans ( yes the electric ones your describing ) won’t be owned by Royal Mail they will be leased by the employee , so the costs you describe will not be theirs ,
I'll never leave people like you alone. I'll campaign to have your petrol car crushed into a cube, mate.
Yes Geoff, i want to be left alone too!
But they're not going to leave us alone . 2023 has to be the year the public step up and say enough.
Just another point Geoff, IWTBLA, Where does Parcel Farse fit in the electric powered thingy. Also 40ish years ago Royal Mail used to fly a Douglas DC-3 better known as the Dakota. It was amazing to see. Did nothing for the environment.
Well Geoff you answered both your questions in the first minute of your video.
Firstly "We need to buy less crap" - Well we also need to do less personal transport in cars. All of us. Some of that we can fix ourselves, because driving our own car has become part of our culture and some of that needs picking up by affordable (or free), reliable public transport.
Secondly, it's not Royal Mail who are buying the vans apparantly.
A couple of years ago I worked in a warehouse picking goods for dispatch. All the forklifts and LLOPs (like small forklifts with long forks) ran on batteries. This was because of no exhaust fumes and not because of government rules. The large batteries lasted just over an eight-hour shift of work; they took about that time to fully charge, and the batteries should have rested for eight hours. They had a large battery charging bay manned by battery changers 24 hours a day (shift work). I was told by a couple of staff charging and changing them that this process never worked, as the batteries were expensive and they hadn't got enough to work like that. They were used, charged, changed and used again. So they were constantly heating up when being used, and heating up when being charged with no rest period. This invalidated the warranty as the batteries were worked to death. You would get a freshly charged battery with 100% charge, use it for half an hour and it would be down to 20%. I know modern cars have modern battery technology, but I bet there is a similar process and problems.
Incompetent management as usual in the UK. Modern LiFePO4 battery packs would laugh in the face of such a task. But I doubt the average British manager would even begin to understand what I just explained.
I read somewhere recently the electric car batteries last 3-5 years and cost about 50% of the cost of the car to replace
@@altvamp Even at the time Tesla started making EVs popular about 10 years ago, they lasted many times more than that. Based of a 30% loss in capacity, EV batteries are projected to last over 2,000 charge cycles which amounts to a typical 12-15 year service life. The latest LiFePO4 batteries (being made by several outfits mainly in China like CATL and BYD, an electric vehicle manufacturer) are projected to last between 4,000 and 7,000 cycles. Even if you recharge them totally every day. that translates to a lifetime of 12-20 years.
Whoever told you that doesn't know the first thing about modern battery technology. They're living about 50 years in the past.
The theoretical target is the 'million mile battery' actually. And once their useful life in EVs is over, their high capacity gives them a second like in home battery packs for solar installations and grid storage. Plenty are likely to see 30-40 years of active service life.
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@@grahamstevenson1740 is it in the interests of the electric forklift company to keep the customer in the dark or something not offer that battery type.
Until one of their competitors does, they reap the financial rewards replacing batteries that have of had their warranty invalidated.
@@altvamp Exactly. It will depend on mileage of course, but say a car costs £20,000 new. Who is going to buy a 5 year old car that needs another £10,000 spending on new batteries? They'll also probably be expensive to swap out.
When cars get to 10 years old they're going to be scrap value, so we're going to have perfectly good, perfectly capable cars being scrapped because nobody is going to buy a 10 year old car that needs new batteries.
Over time, if manufacturers realise that their cars will only have a 10-year life (if that), they'll no doubt start using components that are not required to last as long so quality will probably start to drop. Metal parts will be replaced with plastic ones and so on.
Nobody seems to have thought this through. The only logic I can see in it all is that it will reduce the number of cars on the roads, which is what governments want. People who now run a car worth around 5 grand won't e able to afford one in future, not if they need to buy new batteries and will therefore be forced off the roads due to cost. In the meantime millions of perfectly good cars will be scrapped to be replaced with EVs that half the country doesn't want.
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His is really getting out of hand now, and if we don't do anything to stop any of it, none of us will be left alone. I want to be left alone too. The only way we will achieve this is to tell them all no, and stick together, and stand out ground
Rosemary. You could start by not even thinking of ever buying E lectric vehicle. It is simply never going to work for most folk.
I was a manager of a world leading maker of airport vehicles, where the desire to go electric started in 1974. You would have thought that airports with closed perimeters and short distances would suit electric vehicles well, but they were nothing but trouble. There were several attempts to revive electric ground equipment, but the only types that ever survived in service were forklifts, small baggage tractors and access platforms, most with tiny distances run. But so many EVs were stranded with flat batteries due to staff forgetting to charge them. They needed a lot of maintenance, much more than a petrol or diesel vehicle. Batteries are not a single unit, they comprise a box with dozens or hundreds of elements any of which can fail and stop the battery's power supply. Replacing cells is a nightmare and a costly task and replacing the entire battery pack is shockingly expensive up to tens of thousands of £/€/$. Battery packs are really the fuel supply paid in advance at enormous cost perhaps £15,000 spent and incurred whether the vehicle is used or not. IC vehicles only incur fuel cost as and when they need it, a little each time at modest cost over time. IC vehicles can be parked anywhere, but an EV needs to be parked at a charger location, you need one charger for each EV, otherwise you need a team of staff to check and test the charge, then to move every charged EV to somewhere else to free the space for another EV. A vehicle left in place denies the use of that charger for another EV. A major problem was that drivers would forget about the cable located out of view on the ground, they would reverse and rip the cable out of both the EV and the charger. The airports seized their opportunity to massively overcharge for the installation of the very high ampage power supplies needed and for the chargers, docking, cabling and for the EV parking bay. The time taken to get chargers installed was shockingly long term because they needed the energy supplier to lay in more power cables which meant finding sources with sufficient high ampage, digging trenches to bring new cables to the desired sites, knocking down, modifying or constructing new walls. They needed cooling, fire protection, switching and metering. The airports could not charge for a dedicated parking bay for IC vehicles, but for EVs, they cynically charged for the charger's space, they painted a bay around the vehicles and invoiced for a sizeable annual fee. EVs only sound good, but they are excessively costly and they are not practical for most vehicle usage.
Amazing comment. Just posted on my facebook
I forgot to mention problems with towing. Because, batteries went flat or failed, towing for EVs was much more frequent, so an IC vehicle is always needed to recover and save an EV. Some industrial and airport vehicles have hydraulic transmission, often with non standard wheels, no suspension and low ground clearance and so hydraulic EVs with flat batteries are a nightmare and were often abandoned.
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Geoff, I want to be left alone too! Excellent video, RMs actions prove that they have already reached "NET ZERO COMMON SENSE"!!!
Can’t believe people think the future is something that takes 8 hours to recharge and you have to turn the heater off in cold weather??? That’s like saying ‘use candles at home as we’ve closed all our coal fired power stations and we have high winds so needed to turn the wind turbines offa’
I work for Royal Mail. You are dead on point Geoff. Our CEO did write months ago that due to “the current financial situation” he was reviewing our new electric vans orders. I don’t know if that really happened because we are still receiving new electric vehicles (not just vans). But make no mistake, the ultimate goal of every decision currently being made is not improving the service, or the work force - is net zero.
For example, they will use more trains to carry post in UK, instead of lorries. That sounds amazing, in theory. The problem is it’s being done at the expense of degrading the service. The postmen will receive the post much later in the day, and will only be able to start delivering it after 11-12am, instead of 7-8am. They’ll be out in the dark during Autumn/Winter, they’ll be much slower (because it will be dark) and they’ll get much more rush hour traffic. They’ll never have time to deliver everything. Post and parcels will always be delayed, similar to what it is at the moment with the strikes.
And there’s no way out of this. A Labour government will just increase net zero targets and create more carbon taxes.
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you are full of excuses , didnt see a postal worker for a whole week because of some snow , Amazon and DPD and others were out and about , Royal mail wokers are slackers.
The rail postal service is nothing new and they got rid of that years ago after many years of reliable service. Obviously they have realised that its a important service that shouldn't have been cancelled.
@@bentullett6068 26/12 22, Can they regain their slots ? Will rail be used to shift mail or will TPOs return too ? Expect it will be down to costs. Have previously seen RM livered light 'planes around some airports too. Channel Islanders near the Airport know the sound of the daily post ! Probably next day's mail.
@@peterallam6494 rail was used to shift mail to places at speed. Pretty successful in its hey day but then planes took over. Unfortunately now for the plane it is seen as a un environmentally friendly option and the trains they were using on the one route were electric.
Well at least the government is only doing what the electorate want them to do.
Wait, are they??????
when i started at royal mail, we delivered mail and small parcels, and we used a bike, does not get any greener than a bike!!! royal mail introduced vans so we could do bigger parcels and said we were going green...
ha that's amazing.
Aye, remember postie, on his round by bike or on foot.
Because going green is just a bullshit selling point lol. It makes them look good to the Greta Thunbergs of the world/
When I started at Royal Mail ( the post office ) 43 years ago we made deliveries in our cars, then royal mail came in a few years ago and we work from vans our office went from 5 vans to 15, we can't get them in our yard because it is too small and have to park them elsewhere at a cost, the vans are rubbish and when they go to be repaired, the parts they use are cheap and within a week they break down again. We would not be able to have electric vehicles because there wouldn't be enough space to charge them all at one time. e are constantly having to use hire vans . There plan to change to all electric by 2030 will never be acheived.
They want Royal Mail be totally owner/driver so that they don’t have the overheads of their own fleet.
@@stuartbarrow6052 I heard it's going to be bought by DPD or similar soon
@@0skar9193 I wish it's gonna be taken over by a private equity group who will asset strip it.
'There plan'?
Arent they pushing for agency/casuals, with their own vans, to deliver packets?
They (Government) told us no vehicle tax charge because the EV's are 0 emission, saw it a few weeks ago that that is going to change in 2025. They have lost millions of ££'s of revenue from people going electric so that have to claw it back from somewhere. No longer to be called an environmental charge, back to being plain old road tax. Despite all this money, they still can not fix the pot holes !
There is an Electric MEB van at the home opposite mine parked in street. Questioning the driver he recharges it at the local supermarket presumably while he is being paid.
Geoff, I want to be left alone too!
The E-Lunacy continues. In what world does a vehicle with a range of around 100 miles represent progress? You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to see that the replacement of petrol and diesel cars with EVs will lead to a huge reduction in personal freedom and mobility. Wouldn't many of us rather just be left alone to drive the cars we choose?
The average car journey in the UK is 8 miles. 100 miles is more than enough for most people most of the time.
"In what world does a vehicle with a range of around 100 miles represent progress?" The same world where we went from a space shuttle back to a rocket and capsule like we had in the sixties and seventies.
@@chigwife862 .......and if they cant afford the expense of an EV?
Electric CARS have a LOT more than 100 miles range. Up to 500 miles in some cases but 220-250 miles is quite normal.
@@geoffdundee we certainly never could, and have no where to charge it
My postman is the nicest guy you could meet, and says all the managers are idiots
Totally agree with everything you say but then factor in these vans are supposedly environmentally friendly, that sort of goes out the window when you consider all the damage done mining minerals and disposing of batteries that can’t be recycled…..every 3 to 5 years for every vehicle in the country in the next 10 years, that’s without the power demand on the national grid that can’t be met
exactly, plus the lithium used to make the batteries(presumably they will be lithium based?) is a limited, finite resource, there may well not be enough, maybe for the first run of batteries, but what about replacements?
that is patent bullshit - you are talking shite
I’ve had a few heated debates with EV fans on you tube and Facebook, in fact lots, can’t help myself trying to educate them, in fact lots, not one, not one has come back to me when I throw in battery production and disposal, they either change the subject or dissapear, Every time
@@joeedwards627 perhaps because your willful ignorance is so frustrating. Try educating yourself, rather than them, about the current state of batteries, including source, production and recycling. Unless, that is, you are content in your little pearl-clutching bubble of ignorance.
@@andygozzo72 Lithium will need to be processed at a rate that is 7000% above current levels. The current levels of mining/distillation are currently declining due to lack of investment......Do the maths!
Why .... because they know that self driving vans can only be implemented after fully electric vehicles are introduced and factored into their operating budget.
They'll save big time and save on unionisation risks once they don't need to pay for, manage, and give into a workforce of human drivers.
The other elephant in the room is the electricity infrastructure, our substations are not designed to cope if everyone converted to an electric vehicle and the more that do will create local supply issues to our domestic electricity at home.
They want us all off the road from our vehicles, they've been planning things for a long time, it's much more difficult to pass your driving test now, with the theory/hazard perception tests. They refuse to build more roads as they don't want driving to be more enjoyable, they made loads of bus lanes which was a big flop and a waste of money, now they make loads of cycle lanes, wasting more money and there's loads of them that are rarely used. Bike theft is sky high, they use angle grinders in plain view to steal expensive bikes, there's no funds put into place to stop bike theft so I'd never get a bike. Loads of places are parking for permit holders only and some places are even permit holders on Saturdays too. There making more red routes to prevent parking, soon it'll probably be nowhere to park at all, there's talks of fining you for parking on the kerb. There really trying to push us off the roads, there giving councils powers to fine drivers for more offences. We're probably heading towards a time where there was no cars.
Great comment. And so true.
AGENDA 21/2030...Also no private home ownership
Very true, l got that feeling last year on a visit to England with the government wanting cars off the road, l live in the states, very sad state of affairs.
An excellent reply , in Solihull West midlands GB they have introduced cycle lanes on 40mph roads as its next too motorway junction M42 A41. So as you come off motorway after doing 70+ on motorway it takes a while to get used to the decelarection then you have cycle lane markings and on first bend its extremley dangerous forcing you closer to oncoming. asregular user on said road only seen 1 cyclist usng lane in past 2 yrs 😞. as per electrc vans /cars it takes 100000 miles before you even start too reduce carbon issue , also slavery issue with mining precious metals in africa . company car drivers pay no road tax on their electric vehicles in gb , so replacing battery s on these vehicle s imposible as second hand car buyer.' We're probably heading towards a time where there was no cars.' but the liberal Wa@#ers in councils and facebook have no understanding ..
@@theoracle9842 You will own nothing and be happy..... we tried to warn everybody but the Normies called us names.
I worked in RM 10 years ago. At that time, they had a deal with Vauxhall for the Corsa Combi 1.7dti. They were basic vehicles, they even had a radio/tape player, but they only cost £2700! After 3 years, they were replaced & sold at auction, often for more than the initial cost.
that's an amazing anecdote. thank you.
Where I live in Kidderminster, these are still the only royal mail vans I see, apart from the huge Peugeot ones
Most of my office still use these Combi vans 😂😂
Absolute nonsense again £2700 😂😂😂😂😂
Still using 09 reg combi round here," weapon🤣🤣
I want to be left alone too, Geoff! On the face of it, and e vehicle would suit my usage , barring the need to be parked outside my terraced house to charge it, and the fact I could never afford the costs you have highlighted. The good news is, maybe, that I can get a cheap electric van in a few years from Royal Mail bankrupt stock sales.... As a former electrician with experience on battery locomotives, nothing about Net Zero has ever made sense to me.
But you would need to repair or replace the Van Batteries as RM wouldn’t want the cost of replacing them after 3 years. The Van market would be flooded with thousands of useless Vans, how would this make economic sense to you as the potential 2nd owner?.
@@paulnolan1352 It was more a satirical comment on the future availability of ex RM vans than my intention to buy one.
The Volvo P1800 engine was capable of doing mega mileage, one as done 3 million miles. Surely it is better to make a simpler petrol car that can last longer with good fuel economy, yet we now design cars to break. I was always told a car has a 25 year life span apparently ones built now have a 15 year life span.
It’s like australia mate, we’re on a suicidal path to net zero, net zero means how much cash you will have in your pocket by 2030.
I also want to be left alone. I love my cars and I love driving. I want to drive what I want and where I want without being told what and where I can go.
All the Royal Mail Fiat Doblo vans at my office are diesels with all but one of them being '13 registration, so coming up for 10 years old. They're not being used as diesels should be either, they're driven 2 to 3 miles from the delivery office at the start of the day, parked for the first delivery loop, moved very short distances throughout the day to the next loops with some parcel deliveries in between, then back to the office. The vans are usually driven less than a total of 10 miles a day and the engine never gets warmed up. If you go by the trip computer most of them are averaging 25-30mpg, some of them even less than that. Royal Mail's claim to have the lowest CO2 per parcel is utter BS.
And the dpf regeneration you have to do every other day 😆
Then you have to regenerate them evey 3 days to blow out those dangerous fumes
And the Doblo's got a larger turning circle than the larger electric vans!
I was still driving car transporters when they started the roll out of Doblos.
Delivering one load of new vans to one of RM's depots i asked the workshop about obvious DPF issues, the tech reckoned Fiat had put in a method for you, the RM driver, to be able to trigger static regens when required, similar to how full size trucks are now fitted.
Did the regen system fitted work out as planned? i've always wondered about this.
DPF regeneration at least twice a week on my Rural duty and don't get me started on the exhaust fumes coming into the cab ( only stopped by the recirculation button being pressed every minute ! ). Mechanic inspected it when engine was cold & (allegedly) it's OK.
Britain has gone mad they've hit the self destruct button big time
Not sure if they will be bankrupt Geoff ... didn't you mention that under the 'new van' scheme WE are bankrolling it through taxes? Give that clown another huge payrise!!
In Jersey during the hot summer weather postmen could not turn on their air-conditioning in their electric vans as they would run out of juice before they could complete their rounds. Jersey is 9 miles by five miles?
Geoff I want to be left alone too. There's one thing I always comment on to people the UK doesn't have enough electricity to charge all these vehicles. This is a crude sum and doesn't take into account that not all cars will be on charge at the same time nor any inefficiencies in the charging system but it's still extra energy needed but there are 31.9M petrol and diesel cars on the roads in the UK replacing them with electric cars with a 50kW battery equals 1,595,000 Mega Wats of power where are we getting all this extra electricity from?
That's when you realise they don't want you to get rid of your car and get an electric car. They want you to get rid of your car.
I've been in haulage over 20 years... Holy crap money is everything if they did this with wagons you would see breakdowns and the grid go off the charts AND... zero profit 📈
Yes and no food
Surely you meant NetZero profit. The blackouts are coming, BIG blackouts as we have insufficient generation capacity and as of this evening, the sun has gone down and there's no wind.
Conclusion is brilliant...and so true.
Someone is making lots of money from it.
70 miles range on the Mercedes vans in our Rm office, and that’s if you keep the heating off which has been great in the cold days
I remember people saying mobile phones would never catch on and would be for emergencies only… now I’m watching bull about EV’s on my mobile phone sat in the middle of no where in my electric car..
Great video. One large cruise ship produces more CO2 emissions than every single privately owned car in Europe. Alliance of British Drivers and MAG are fighting tooth and nail to stop this net zero agenda. Nothing to do with saving the planet. The Panama canal recently celebrated its centenary. The sea levels either side of the canal haven't risen one inch in over 100 years. The Maldives are still building holiday resorts. Even though it's the single most vulnerable place on earth for sea level rises. C02 levels are currently 0.04% of the atmosphere. If it drops below 0.015% everything dies. It's a heavy life giving trace gas. Toxic batteries are not the future.
How can the royal mail claim they'll be net zero carbon emissions by 2030?
When charging their EVs is going to be mostly generated by electricity produced by fossil fuels, here in the UK most of our electricity is still produced by gas fired power stations.
What Natural gas, coal etc.??? ! Every scam-artist Energy firm tells us we are getting "100% Renewable Energy". Surely you don't doubt them, eh???
@@galacticcentral6178 Just heard on the news our local power company has got coal fired generators already warmed up, ready for a coming spike in demand this week due to the big freeze in the UK......
You can't make this up......😁⚠️
I agree with everything you said, you hit the nail on the head when you said "what about the kids" - I have this conversation with my brother " what about our kids" & thire future. Well I don't think there is any further in this country, it's been going down hill for a good few years now & now I am waiting for it to burst. I have 6 year's to retirement & I am off to sunnyer shores,at that time my daughter will be 18 & I am hopping she will come with us. This country is finished.
when you retire in 6 years time it will be to late, you wont be able to move , restrained in a 6 mile village, hard luck, we all let it happen, never thought of who would pick up the tab, our children and grandchildren, like I say if the worker ant dies, the nest dies
Wow, you're illiterate.
@@markfox1545 No - actually I have Dyslexia but I know how to spell " your a Pr!ck
You need to see it through the eyes of the CEO. He gets paid a stupid amount no matter how much he screws up, and when it goes bust, he just gets his MP mates to give him another company to screw up. None of the loss of money matters, there is loads of us to screw for more TAX.
Nice one fella brilliantly presented and great content.
If the Royal Mail keep buying EV’s as you said they will definitely go bust as Hydrogen cell cars will dominate the market by 2030 and these EV’s will be worthless.
Did you know a Welsh judge invented the first hydrogen cell…
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We’re all with you Geoff don’t worry!
Yes we're all 'with you' while continuing to vote Labour, Tories or the Greens (WEF agenda), that's how much we are 'with you'...
@@jackmorgan1677 that’s right, how many commenters on here who are rightly fed up with this WEF government they may have unknowingly voted for will trip out next election and unknowingly vote for a different WEF Party, the opinion polls are depressing
@@jackmorgan1677 The Tories are finished come the next election Jack.
@@SaltimusMaximus The polls are also skewed. The old phase "There's lies, damned lies and statistics" come to mind. Just look how quickly the government buckled on their nimbyist energy policies once we had a couple of days of snow; they ended up going back to good old reliable coal to get us through the winter. That's because they know where public sentiment really is
Geoff , I agree 200% . We are being railroaded into stupidity !
I think you meant NetZeroGrossStupidity.
Have been saying this for some time, a complete scam. We’ve had the Peugeot vans for 6mths which started at about 136 miles fully charged, they are now down to 119 fully charged ( 12.5 % drop).
Here is a fact that many people don’t know about, during COP 26 in Glasgow, Jaguar supplied 240 e-pace and i-pace cars and Tesla supplied 21 cars based at Gleneagles for official transport.
Unfortunately there are nowhere near enough chargers in Glasgow and Gleneagles to charge the cars so they had to bring in 30 diesel generators to charge the cars.
Kinda defeats the the purpose of the exercise really
Another thing to think about is that garage mechanics that are old school and only deal with petrol and diesel will be redundant and a new breed of mechanics will have to train - at a cost - to be able to maintain the electric vehicles. I think the RM strikes has been instigated and when RM is either sold off, privatised or shut down, the strikers/workers will be blamed for being 'greedy'. It's so infuriating
Geoff! I want to be left alone too! Great video, sadly this country is corrupt…
nailed it.
Part of the current strike dispute is Royal Mail introducing franchising, self employed workers and owner drivers. So the plan is probably massively reduce the fleet, rather than replace it and have employees take on the burden. Easy way to hit net zero is get rid of your fleet
drop the stock, sell the stock low, cash in on a bribe.
@@GeoffBuysCars it’s an asset stripping exercise, not a righteous moral race to net zero. Blaming the carbon footprint of the company is another way to reduce public services. Services across UK will be scaled back because they will also be getting rid of the use of aircraft to transport mail across the UK quickly, to reduce the carbon footprint of the company apparently
Absolutely disgraceful what's happening in the world today. I just want to be left alone too. Take care, Poo.
Agree. I can’t see where this ends
You know what's coming in 2030 . Everything is being put into place as we speak .You will not be left alone, you also know this .life is going to become increasingly difficult and frustrating for anyone who has the eyes to see. Prepare heart and mind and become less reliant on the things they tell us we need . You're an intelligent bloke so don't be ruled by your emotions . Look to what's important in your life and leave the fluff behind. BE THE MAN YOUR FAMILY NEEDS . God bless you brother .
2:25 Due to the buying power of the post office they get a lot of money off (most commercial entities when buying in bulk get up to 50% off list price) - last time they brought the transit vans - Ford closed down the production line for 6 months just to build the order for the post office - a number of these vans went straight to storage for up to 2-3 years before being used due to the price they where given.
Love this comment.
@@GeoffBuysCars I know about this because a friend that had ordered a transit van was told it was going to be built on this date/time... he then had to wait 6 months for his van to be built because they were building a big order first
Dont confuse Royal Mail with the Post Office, they are 2 separate companies.
sorry, that is my fault - yes they are 4 arms of the brand/company... Royal Mail, Post Office and Crown Post Offices (these are the big high street Post Offices) where the smaller or sub-post offices are franchise
Finally there is someone else that sees what's happening, I to want to be left alone! Good post.
You are correct, it doesn't make sense, unless it's paid for by the taxpayer.
Adrian Bowley
7 days ago
Geoff I’m an RM truck driver , we’re in a nasty industrial dispute as pretty much everybody knows , but what isn’t reported is that we are in the process of being bought out by a group called VESA , venture capitalists owned by a Czech billionaire based in Luxembourg,
Can you see where this going ? So our current ceo is going all out to defeat the nasty CWU ,
If he does , RM is going to become a gig economy business , majority of staff phoney self employed , vans ( yes the electric ones your describing ) won’t be owned by Royal Mail they will be leased by the employee , so the costs you describe will not be theirs ,
Royal mail sat around at the start of the tech revolution, " this bloody e mail stuff won't catch on, will it?". Now look.
A few things. I don’t think they need a charger per vehicle as some will be out and about, so they’re shared. Still 80mill. I would’ve also thought the clever idea is city/tow centre and village delivering well within the vans range is what’s needed, everything else, motorway, long distance is cleaner diesel or petrol vehicles, so not all of the 41,500 is EV. I’ve always wanted an ev, but not now. Until they do come up with the next battery tech, lithium ones are not the way forward, and it’s a rich persons playground atm.
Also, 2030 is the great reset.
Wow! 😯 Those figures only make sense if you want to destroy a business to make it cheap for a buy out! It ain't rocket science, but what really grinds my gears is that they think the public are stupid and thus have no idea what's going on here (and not just with the Royal Mail). Geoff I want to be left alone, too! 👍
Wow those figures look suspect and made to look bad for a reason.
70p per kwh of course it is. I pay 8.25p per kwh for 5 hours a night and he expects me to believe RM can't do better than 70p. Batteries need changing every 3 years also seems suspect. RM will not be able to improve those figures in 10 years time?
Why aren't you questioning what you are being told?
We don't have the luxury to be left alone and if you fall for this bullshit you are going to be poked with a much bigger stick than if you actually did something.
Unfortunately, most of the general public are stupid, or just prefer to stick their heads in the sand in regards to issues which don't immediately affect them. Until, of course, it does affect them and then it's too late.
Blackrock will buy RM, like they are buying everything.
The general public IS stupid.
Well said. Net zero agenta will bite us so badly in the future that i am scared of what it will look like.
I don't think the post office will make it past 2025. I just heard that a first class stamp costs 95p and I for one don't post envelopes unless they are prepaid by someone else. They also largely fail to deliver next day on first class so that won't help. On the upside. Though some of us could see all this bad stuff coming, we are now reaching a point where the slumbering masses are waking up and getting agitated. The important thing is to not let them panic. If we are united and calm we can make it through the "great reset" ..eyes open, pay attention.
BTW you are doing a great job 👍
Some odd assumptions in this video. For example, what Royal Mail delivery van is doing 150 miles a day? That’s the range of the van, not it’s daily duty.