Actually, the aardwolf is the sole living member of the family Protelidae, which like hyenas (family Hyaenidae) is part of the superfamily Hyaenoidea, within the superfamily, Protelidae is more derived than the extinct family Lophocyonidae, but is basal to the split between Percrocutidae and Hyaenidae, which actually makes hyenas more closely related to percrocutids than to the aardwolf.
Hmm, how about this quote I found in a 2019 paper: "The aardwolf (Proteles cristata) is a unique, insectivorous species of the family Hyaenidae" Westbury, M. V., De Cahsan, B., Dalerum, F., Norén, K., & Hofreiter, M. (2019). Aardwolf population diversity and phylogenetic positioning inferred using complete mitochondrial genomes. African Journal of Wildlife Research, 49(1), 27-33. And this from a 2021 paper: "During the Miocene, Hyaenidae was a highly diverse family of Carnivora that has since been severely reduced to four species: the bone-cracking spotted, striped, and brown hyenas, and the specialized insectivorous aardwolf." Westbury, M. V., Le Duc, D., Duchêne, D. A., Krishnan, A., Prost, S., Rutschmann, S., ... & Hofreiter, M. (2021). Ecological specialization and evolutionary reticulation in extant hyaenidae. Molecular biology and evolution, 38(9), 3884-3897. And this one: "The four extant species of hyenas (Hyaenidae; Carnivora) form a morphologically and ecologically heterogeneous group of feliform carnivorans that are remnants of a formerly diverse group of mammalian predators. They include the aardwolf (Proteles cristatus), a termite-feeding specialist, and three species with a craniodental morphology adapted to cracking the bones of prey and/or carcasses, the spotted hyena (Crocuta crocuta), brown hyena (Parahyaena brunnea), and striped hyena (Hyaena hyaena)." Koepfli, K. P., Jenks, S. M., Eizirik, E., Zahirpour, T., Van Valkenburgh, B., & Wayne, R. K. (2006). Molecular systematics of the Hyaenidae: relationships of a relictual lineage resolved by a molecular supermatrix. Molecular phylogenetics and evolution, 38(3), 603-620.@@indyreno2933
@sciencenerd7639, you mean three: the Brown Hyena (Parahyaena brunnea), the Striped Hyena (Hyaena hyaena), and the Spotted Hyena (Crocuta crocuta), the Aardwolf (Proteles cristatus) is placed in its own family along with many fairly similar extinct genera, which is Protelidae, Protelidae is the second most basal family within the Hyaenoidea superfamily after the extinct Lophocyonidae, with Percrocutidae being the true sister group to the hyenas (family Hyaenidae), while Protelidae is basal to both percrocutids and hyenas, in fact, Protelidae is one of the only five extant families of carnivorans to have only one surviving species, the other families being Ailuropodidae, Odobenidae, Ailuridae, and Nandiniidae, where the only surviving members of those families are the Giant Panda (Ailuropoda melanoleuca), the Walrus (Odobenus rosmarus), the Red Panda (Ailurus fulgens), and the Feripaka (Nandinia binotata) respectively.
My understanding after looking at the literature is that the aardwolf used to be in Protelidae and now it is in Hyaenidae. I am happy to revise my opinion if you can provide a citation of a paper from within the last 15 years that places the aardwolf in Protelidae. I just showed you three papers that say the aardwolf is in Hyaenidae. During the last 25 years more DNA evidence has become available and that is the reason for some taxonomic adjustments. @@indyreno2933
Upon reviewing the literature, my understanding is that the aardwolf used to be classified in Protelidae and now it is classified in Hyaenidae. I am happy to revise my opinion if you can provide a citation of a paper from the last 15 years that shows the aardwolf in family Protelidae. I just haven't been able to find one. I have shown you three journal articles which classify the aardwolf in family Hyaenidae. In recent years, an increase in available genomic data has led to some adjustments in taxonomy.@@indyreno2933
I already posted a comment on this so I would just copy it here: "I wouldn't call the Aardwolf a hyena at all but maybe for a different reason. I think those common names should define the animal not for a scientist but for a normal person and I don't think anyone would call that a hyena. It's like calling a wolf and a fox or a jackal the same name, one is clearly dangerous and the others are not." The common names are not tied to taxonomic clades. Are the sheeps cows or what? I think we are calling the aardwolf a hyena because we don't really live with hyenas and aardwolfs. We literaly know the aardwolf because it's the strange species of the Hyenidae. But I think it's like calling "wolf" a fox. That said, all of you, do whatever you want, I don't correct people on this. I'm saying my opinion because the topic was brought up. It has more to do with the debate on how common names should work, it's not really an important issue.
But.... it has wolf in its name.. Animals find their niche.. Just like those Meerkats.. "Lake Cats".. Those Felines filled that spot by "becoming" the Prairie Dog and the Ferret when lake went dry..🤔🙄😎
@@Lanval_de_Lai wolves, foxes and jackals are all part of canidae so we call them canines. Spotted/striped and brown hyenas and aardwolves are part of hyenidae so we call them hyena's.
@@Lanval_de_Lai And by that same logic, prairie dogs shouldn't count as marmots, squirrels or even rodents because some ignoramuses from a long time ago opted to call them "dogs" cuz they yip and bark? Rock solid argument you got there. Morphology, phylogeny and evolution don't matter, only the random vernacular names do.
Interesting how the aardwolf has basically the exact same diet and ecological role of the bat-eared fox, yet the aardwolf barely has any back teeth, yet the bat-eared fox has the most of any canine. The question is, which dental formula is the best for eating termites?
6:08 Lmaoo you know what good to actually hear you rant and show your personality more in I this video for the first time !! It really makes you stand out I appreciate the uploads 🔥💯
You could do one about parrots. I always wanted to know how they evolve so many species with so many colours. ( I particularly love the golden parakeet)
this was great aardwolves are hyenas and are very unique too It is so hard to find footage or anything else about them other than what is listed on Wikipedia. Striped hyenas are my favorite animal and their history is very interesting as well as how easily "tamable" they are if raised in captivity. Hyenas are awesome animals and I love learning about them
I wish I could see what it was like to see all these amazing different creatures around the prehistoric ice age era. It's one of the most interesting era of animals that were similar to ones nowadays but in complete psycho mode compared to our tame normies
the weirdest thing about Hyenas is that in some species, the females have what's called a pseudo-penis. it resembles it but not really and the females give birth through where there's chance it will split causing the mother-to-be to die from bleeding.
Actually, the aardwolf is the sole living member of the family Protelidae, which like hyenas (family Hyaenidae) is part of the superfamily Hyaenoidea, within the superfamily, Protelidae is more derived than the extinct family Lophocyonidae, but is basal to the split between Percrocutidae and Hyaenidae, which actually makes hyenas more closely related to percrocutids than to the aardwolf.
I'ma give you the correct phylogeny of carnivorans which Indy reno seems to not accept first let's start with caniformes -Canidae(dogs) -Ursidae(bears) -Odobenidae(walrus) -Otariidae(sea lions and fur seals) -Phocidae(true seals) -Mephitidae(skunks and stink badgers) -Ailuridae(red panda) -Procyonidae(raccoons, coatis, kinkajous, ect.) -Mustelidae(weasels, otters, badgers, ect.) Now it's time for feliformes -Nandiniidae(African palm civet) -Felidae(cats) -Prionodontidae(Asiatic linsangs) -Viverridae(civets, genets, and oyans) -Hyaenidae(hyenas) -Herpestidae(mongooses) -Eupleridae(malagasy carnivorans)
0:52 Had no clue taxonomists and paleontologists were 300 pound redditors. Or there are redditors just making shit up. Also, morphology doesn't ALWAYS mean things are related.
I wouldn't call the Aardwolf a hyena at all but maybe for a different reason. I think those common names should define the animal not for a scientist but for a normal person and I don't think anyone would call that a hyena. It's like calling a wolf and a fox or a jackal the same name, one is clearly dangerous and the others are not. I'm totally against saying "they are in Hyenidae so they are all hyenas" because that's not how common names should work, but hey if you really look at them and think "HYENA" that's a good reason, I totally respect it.
So I assume you wouldn't call a prairie dog a rodent because it has "dog" in its name, or a flying fox a bat because it would confuse laypeople too lazy to do a 5-minute Google search, to pander to the ignorant? Like, what sort of asinine logic is that. Common names don't matter, only the animal's phylogeny does. The former is arbitrary and made by people who have no clue what they are talking about, while the latter is rooted in verifiable scientific facts.
Carnivorans have the second largest number of extant families that any mammalian order is divided into, with carnivorans being split into twenty-five extant families: Canidae (Dogs), Ursidae (Bears), Ailuropodidae (Giant Panda), Phocidae (Seals), Cystophoridae (Hooded Seal and Elephant Seals), Otariidae (Sea Lions and Fur Seals), Odobenidae (Walrus), Mephitidae (Skunks and Stink Badgers), Procyonidae (Raccoons and Bassarisks), Ailuridae (Red Panda), Nasuidae (Coatis, Kinkajou, Olingos, and Olinguito), Melidae (Badgers), Mustelidae (Weasels, Ferrets, and Minks), Lutridae (Otters), Ictonychidae (Zorillas, Muishund, Shulang, Huro, Grisons, Wolverine, Tayra, and Martens), Felidae (Cats), Protelidae (Aardwolf), Hyaenidae (Hyenas), Nandiniidae (Feripaka), Prionodontidae (Linsangs), Poianidae (Oyans), Genettidae (Genets), Viverridae (Civets), Herpestidae (Mongooses), and Eupleridae (Malagasy Carnivorans).
Aardwolves used to be Protelidae, but now they are classified in Hyaenidae, due to DNA analysis. The giant panda is in Ursidae, also due to DNA analysis. Badgers, wolverines, and otters are in Mustelidae. Racoons, coatis, and olingos are in Procyonidae. Taxonomy has changed a lot in recent years because we can sequence genomes more easily.
@drosophilamelanogaster9488, hyenas are more closely related to the extinct percrocutids than they are to the aardwolf, therefore, the aardwolf is the sole living member of the family Protelidae, aardwolves are not hyenas, but they are still hyaenoids, which are members of the superfamily Hyaenoidea, within Hyaenoidea, Protelidae is more derived than another extinct family called Lophocyonidae, but is basal to the Percrocutidae + Hyaenidae split, in fact, the giant panda, walrus, red panda, aardwolf, and feripaka are the only five carnivoran species to the sole extant members of their own families, with the giant panda being the sole extant member of the family Ailuropodidae, the walrus being the sole extant member of the family Odobenidae, the red panda being the sole extant member of the family Ailuridae, the aardwolf being the sole extant member of the family Protelidae, and the feripaka being the sole extant member of the family Nandiniidae, all five of these extant families belong to already existing superfamilies with Ailuropodidae being part of Ursoidea, Odobenidae being part of Otarioidea, Ailuridae being part of Procyonoidea, Protelidae being part of Hyaenoidea, and Nandiniidae being part of Viverroidea.
I just showed you three papers that say aardwolves are in Hyaenidae. Did you not know that science gets updated when we get new evidence? You know we can sequence genomes now, right? Here are the 3 journal articles again: "The aardwolf (Proteles cristata) is a unique, insectivorous species of the family Hyaenidae" Westbury, M. V., De Cahsan, B., Dalerum, F., Norén, K., & Hofreiter, M. (2019). Aardwolf population diversity and phylogenetic positioning inferred using complete mitochondrial genomes. African Journal of Wildlife Research, 49(1), 27-33. And this from a 2021 paper: "During the Miocene, Hyaenidae was a highly diverse family of Carnivora that has since been severely reduced to four species: the bone-cracking spotted, striped, and brown hyenas, and the specialized insectivorous aardwolf." Westbury, M. V., Le Duc, D., Duchêne, D. A., Krishnan, A., Prost, S., Rutschmann, S., ... & Hofreiter, M. (2021). Ecological specialization and evolutionary reticulation in extant hyaenidae. Molecular biology and evolution, 38(9), 3884-3897. And this one: "The four extant species of hyenas (Hyaenidae; Carnivora) form a morphologically and ecologically heterogeneous group of feliform carnivorans that are remnants of a formerly diverse group of mammalian predators. They include the aardwolf (Proteles cristatus), a termite-feeding specialist, and three species with a craniodental morphology adapted to cracking the bones of prey and/or carcasses, the spotted hyena (Crocuta crocuta), brown hyena (Parahyaena brunnea), and striped hyena (Hyaena hyaena)." Koepfli, K. P., Jenks, S. M., Eizirik, E., Zahirpour, T., Van Valkenburgh, B., & Wayne, R. K. (2006). Molecular systematics of the Hyaenidae: relationships of a relictual lineage resolved by a molecular supermatrix. Molecular phylogenetics and evolution, 38(3), 603-620.@@indyreno2933
@sciencenerd7639, hyenas are more closely related to the extinct percrocutids than they are to the aardwolf, therefore, the aardwolf is the sole living member of the family Protelidae, aardwolves are not hyenas, but they are still hyaenoids, which are members of the superfamily Hyaenoidea, within Hyaenoidea, Protelidae is more derived than another extinct family called Lophocyonidae, but is basal to the Percrocutidae + Hyaenidae split, in fact, the giant panda, walrus, red panda, aardwolf, and feripaka are the only five carnivoran species to the sole extant members of their own families, with the giant panda being the sole extant member of the family Ailuropodidae, the walrus being the sole extant member of the family Odobenidae, the red panda being the sole extant member of the family Ailuridae, the aardwolf being the sole extant member of the family Protelidae, and the feripaka being the sole extant member of the family Nandiniidae, all five of these extant families belong to already existing superfamilies with Ailuropodidae being part of Ursoidea, Odobenidae being part of Otarioidea, Ailuridae being part of Procyonoidea, Protelidae being part of Hyaenoidea, and Nandiniidae being part of Viverroidea.
Citation needed. Your information looks out of date. Did you know that we have more DNA evidence available than we did back in the 1990s? I am very happy to revise my opinion when you provide a citation for a peer reviewed journal article written within the last fifteen years which supports your claim. I looked but could not find any. @@indyreno2933
Aardwolf (note the correct spelling) are in the family Hyaenidae. Animals have common names and also belong to a family. If the family name translates to, or is named after an animal, then all members of that family may be referred to by that name. As such, aardwolves are hyenas in regard to them being members of the hyena family. Would you protest lions are not cats? Because that is exactly the same reasoning; lion is the common name, but they are cats in regard to the family name.
Everyone loves the big cats of Africa (myself included), but I've always felt hyenas never got the credit they rightly deserve as fascinating predators with complex social hierarchies and unique biology (e.g., the female spotted hyena gives birth through a pseudopenis, and the offspring are born with their eyes open). Always a treat to see a video giving them some love!
@carlosalbuquerque22, Percrocutidae is actually valid, there are no recent studies showing that it isn't, Percrocutidae in fact still belongs to the superfamily Hyaenoidea.
@@indyreno2933 Wrong again Reno, as usual. Percrocutidae; - are not hyenas - are not in Hyaenidae - are not the superfamily 'Hyaenoidea', which is you yet again inventing your own taxonomic terms. They are the superfamily Herpestoidea
The word is "haenids". If you called them that, you wouldn't get yourself all tied up in knots. Like you might say gelid or hominid. It makes your job easier.
im subbed on my other account, watched most of your content so far. i'm just starting this video, but i have a request..zodiacal toes, where and when did they evolve? Not looking for an overall bird video, just the parrots and them toes. Dont know what it is about them, but having 2 finger and 2 thumbs is kinda cool
Controversy? The aardwolf is part of the Hyaenidae family, it is a full-blooded hyena. That's like saying that the giant panda isn't a bear because it's part of a separate subfamily from the other extant ursids, or that panthers (tigers, lions, leopards, jaguars) aren't true cats because they are also in a separate subfamily from the felines (cougars, lynxes, cheetahs, housecats, etc.).
@@Dr.Ian-Plect Lanval de Lai is even worse, essentially saying that we shouldn't call it a hyena cuz its common name (aardwolf) will confuse clueless laymen, and the animal "doesn't look like a hyena".
@@Dr.Ian-Plect Considering his morbid obsession with taxonomic splitting, I asked him what his views are on the taxonomy of _Homo sapiens_ . Still waiting for a response.
Once you get really famous I’ll be able to say I’ve been here since 80k :D You’re funny, dude! Plus your videos are really interesting! Idk if I like the fact that hyenas aren’t dogs (I knew this info but I like to repress it), but that’s on biology. Subbed!
Dude, it's called CONVERGENT EVOLUTION. Try educating yourself on the matter before running your mouth like a Bible thumper trying to deny reality based facts XD
He's right, aardwolves are in family Hyaenidae
Actually, the aardwolf is the sole living member of the family Protelidae, which like hyenas (family Hyaenidae) is part of the superfamily Hyaenoidea, within the superfamily, Protelidae is more derived than the extinct family Lophocyonidae, but is basal to the split between Percrocutidae and Hyaenidae, which actually makes hyenas more closely related to percrocutids than to the aardwolf.
Hmm, how about this quote I found in a 2019 paper:
"The aardwolf (Proteles cristata) is a unique, insectivorous species of the family Hyaenidae"
Westbury, M. V., De Cahsan, B., Dalerum, F., Norén, K., & Hofreiter, M. (2019). Aardwolf population diversity and phylogenetic positioning inferred using complete mitochondrial genomes. African Journal of Wildlife Research, 49(1), 27-33.
And this from a 2021 paper: "During the Miocene, Hyaenidae was a highly diverse family of Carnivora that has since been severely reduced to four species: the bone-cracking spotted, striped, and brown hyenas, and the specialized insectivorous aardwolf."
Westbury, M. V., Le Duc, D., Duchêne, D. A., Krishnan, A., Prost, S., Rutschmann, S., ... & Hofreiter, M. (2021). Ecological specialization and evolutionary reticulation in extant hyaenidae. Molecular biology and evolution, 38(9), 3884-3897.
And this one: "The four extant species of hyenas (Hyaenidae; Carnivora) form a morphologically and ecologically heterogeneous group of feliform carnivorans that are remnants of a formerly diverse group of mammalian predators. They include the aardwolf (Proteles cristatus), a termite-feeding specialist, and three species with a craniodental morphology adapted to cracking the bones of prey and/or carcasses, the spotted hyena (Crocuta crocuta), brown hyena (Parahyaena brunnea), and striped hyena (Hyaena hyaena)."
Koepfli, K. P., Jenks, S. M., Eizirik, E., Zahirpour, T., Van Valkenburgh, B., & Wayne, R. K. (2006). Molecular systematics of the Hyaenidae: relationships of a relictual lineage resolved by a molecular supermatrix. Molecular phylogenetics and evolution, 38(3), 603-620.@@indyreno2933
@sciencenerd7639, you mean three: the Brown Hyena (Parahyaena brunnea), the Striped Hyena (Hyaena hyaena), and the Spotted Hyena (Crocuta crocuta), the Aardwolf (Proteles cristatus) is placed in its own family along with many fairly similar extinct genera, which is Protelidae, Protelidae is the second most basal family within the Hyaenoidea superfamily after the extinct Lophocyonidae, with Percrocutidae being the true sister group to the hyenas (family Hyaenidae), while Protelidae is basal to both percrocutids and hyenas, in fact, Protelidae is one of the only five extant families of carnivorans to have only one surviving species, the other families being Ailuropodidae, Odobenidae, Ailuridae, and Nandiniidae, where the only surviving members of those families are the Giant Panda (Ailuropoda melanoleuca), the Walrus (Odobenus rosmarus), the Red Panda (Ailurus fulgens), and the Feripaka (Nandinia binotata) respectively.
My understanding after looking at the literature is that the aardwolf used to be in Protelidae and now it is in Hyaenidae. I am happy to revise my opinion if you can provide a citation of a paper from within the last 15 years that places the aardwolf in Protelidae. I just showed you three papers that say the aardwolf is in Hyaenidae. During the last 25 years more DNA evidence has become available and that is the reason for some taxonomic adjustments. @@indyreno2933
Upon reviewing the literature, my understanding is that the aardwolf used to be classified in Protelidae and now it is classified in Hyaenidae. I am happy to revise my opinion if you can provide a citation of a paper from the last 15 years that shows the aardwolf in family Protelidae. I just haven't been able to find one. I have shown you three journal articles which classify the aardwolf in family Hyaenidae. In recent years, an increase in available genomic data has led to some adjustments in taxonomy.@@indyreno2933
Who is saying the aardwolf isn’t a hyena?? They’re literally in the same family as the other hyenas. Literally a hyaenid hyena.
thank you!
I already posted a comment on this so I would just copy it here:
"I wouldn't call the Aardwolf a hyena at all but maybe for a different reason. I think those common names should define the animal not for a scientist but for a normal person and I don't think anyone would call that a hyena. It's like calling a wolf and a fox or a jackal the same name, one is clearly dangerous and the others are not."
The common names are not tied to taxonomic clades. Are the sheeps cows or what? I think we are calling the aardwolf a hyena because we don't really live with hyenas and aardwolfs. We literaly know the aardwolf because it's the strange species of the Hyenidae. But I think it's like calling "wolf" a fox.
That said, all of you, do whatever you want, I don't correct people on this. I'm saying my opinion because the topic was brought up. It has more to do with the debate on how common names should work, it's not really an important issue.
But.... it has wolf in its name..
Animals find their niche..
Just like those Meerkats.. "Lake Cats".. Those Felines filled that spot by "becoming" the Prairie Dog and the Ferret when lake went dry..🤔🙄😎
@@Lanval_de_Lai wolves, foxes and jackals are all part of canidae so we call them canines.
Spotted/striped and brown hyenas and aardwolves are part of hyenidae so we call them hyena's.
@@Lanval_de_Lai And by that same logic, prairie dogs shouldn't count as marmots, squirrels or even rodents because some ignoramuses from a long time ago opted to call them "dogs" cuz they yip and bark? Rock solid argument you got there. Morphology, phylogeny and evolution don't matter, only the random vernacular names do.
Interesting how the aardwolf has basically the exact same diet and ecological role of the bat-eared fox, yet the aardwolf barely has any back teeth, yet the bat-eared fox has the most of any canine. The question is, which dental formula is the best for eating termites?
Echidnas are toothless and they eat termites.
Nature aint looking for "the best" - good enough will do. And oftentimes there are more than one solution to a problem.
anteater: ya'll got teeth!?😰
4:13 I love this brown hyena
6:08 Lmaoo you know what good to actually hear you rant and show your personality more in I this video for the first time !! It really makes you stand out I appreciate the uploads 🔥💯
long time no see man, good to see you again
Aside from how informative and interesting your videos are, I really enjoy your sense of humor as well! Keep up the good work!
6:35 that is the cutest cutie I 've ever seen! 🥰
i was not prepared for The Count lol
Yah!
Thanks for the baby aardwolf, i needed that
I'm glad to see you're back.
Excellent video, informative, entertaining and visually interesting.
Absolutely love your content, Im very thankful for all the work you put into it and its wonderful to see you again
Babe wake up animal origin posted🎉🎉🎉
You could do one about parrots. I always wanted to know how they evolve so many species with so many colours. ( I particularly love the golden parakeet)
The algorithm requires engagement.
Indeed.
Interesting
I've missed your videos!
Nice man, great vid as always
thanks for the wonderful video!
He’s back just when the world needed him the most :D
this was great
aardwolves are hyenas and are very unique too
It is so hard to find footage or anything else about them other than what is listed on Wikipedia.
Striped hyenas are my favorite animal and their history is very interesting as well as how easily "tamable" they are if raised in captivity. Hyenas are awesome animals and I love learning about them
Nice, good video as always man
Great content as always
I respect the hyenas as their loyalty to each other, and survival instincts are impressive. However, they are not my favorite species. 😅
man i love this channel
I missed your video! Need to release more videos.
Thanks for sharing with us Big Dog
Hey man, i think it would be really cool if youd add the measurements in meters as well on the screen
Finally
Great video, thanks
I love the ice age make more ice age videos please ❤
I love hyenas ❤ Ty for the vid
please do crows or rats next :D they’re my favorite animals
The next episodes I wanna see is the evolution of horses or tapirs seeing that they are one of several large mammal groups still not covered yet
He's back!
Can you do a video on the evolution of the Red panda and its extinct relatives.
Did you forget some game open on background? I can hear some strange music faintly.
Did they hunt hominids back then?
I wish I could see what it was like to see all these amazing different creatures around the prehistoric ice age era. It's one of the most interesting era of animals that were similar to ones nowadays but in complete psycho mode compared to our tame normies
wish you could universal units such as kilos over pounds
Wait actually that might be the case
Make a video about the evolution of the monotremes
Great video!
the weirdest thing about Hyenas is that in some species, the females have what's called a pseudo-penis. it resembles it but not really and the females give birth through where there's chance it will split causing the mother-to-be to die from bleeding.
Okay no hackling at my very serious question. Were gnolls bursting our of their chest always a feature, or a more recent evolutionary adaption?
can you do a vid on Evolution of the Acinonynx as cheetahs needs some love as i haven' seen anyone done one on them plz
Aardwolves are hyenas and you could have easily done another 10 minutes explaining just that.
There had never been a 200 Ibs Hyena.
The aardwolf is in the family of hyaenidae
By the logic of those people, is a pistol shrimp a gun??
Actually, the aardwolf is the sole living member of the family Protelidae, which like hyenas (family Hyaenidae) is part of the superfamily Hyaenoidea, within the superfamily, Protelidae is more derived than the extinct family Lophocyonidae, but is basal to the split between Percrocutidae and Hyaenidae, which actually makes hyenas more closely related to percrocutids than to the aardwolf.
@@indyreno2933 Tripe as usual, Reno
I've already pointed out you made up 'Hyaenoidea'. Aardwolves are in Hyaenidae.
@colonelchair2737 False equivalence alert.
@@indyreno2933 What are your views on the taxonomy of _Homo sapiens_ ?
I'ma give you the correct phylogeny of carnivorans which Indy reno seems to not accept first let's start with caniformes
-Canidae(dogs)
-Ursidae(bears)
-Odobenidae(walrus)
-Otariidae(sea lions and fur seals)
-Phocidae(true seals)
-Mephitidae(skunks and stink badgers)
-Ailuridae(red panda)
-Procyonidae(raccoons, coatis, kinkajous, ect.)
-Mustelidae(weasels, otters, badgers, ect.)
Now it's time for feliformes
-Nandiniidae(African palm civet)
-Felidae(cats)
-Prionodontidae(Asiatic linsangs)
-Viverridae(civets, genets, and oyans)
-Hyaenidae(hyenas)
-Herpestidae(mongooses)
-Eupleridae(malagasy carnivorans)
@Corlacanth_yes, here's the list of all the mammalian orders from having the most to fewest number of extant families:
1) Rodentia (Rodents (contains 38 extant families: Diatomyidae, Ctenodactylidae, Petromuridae, Thryonomyidae, Bathyergidae, Hystricidae, Octodontidae, Echimyidae, Abrocomidae, Chinchillidae, Erethizontidae, Ctenomyidae, Capromyidae, Myocastoridae, Dinomyidae, Caviidae, Aplodontiidae, Gliridae, Zenkerellidae, Anomaluridae, Pedetidae, Sciuridae, Castoridae, Geomyidae, Heteromyidae, Platacanthomyidae, Spalacidae, Dipodidae, Calomyscidae, Cricetidae, Zapodidae, Sigmodontidae, Muridae, Gerbillidae, Cricetomyidae, and Nesomyidae))
2) Carnivora (Carnivorans (contains 25 extant families: Canidae, Ursidae, Ailuropodidae, Phocidae, Cystophoridae, Otariidae, Odobenidae, Mephitidae, Procyonidae, Ailuridae, Nasuidae, Melidae, Mustelidae, Lutridae, Ictonychidae, Felidae, Protelidae, Hyaenidae, Nandiniidae, Prionodontidae, Poianidae, Genettidae, Viverridae, Herpestidae, and Eupleridae))
3) Primata (Primates (contains 21 extant families: Lorisidae, Galagidae, Phaneridae, Lepilemuridae, Cheirogaleidae, Daubentoniidae, Indriidae, Lemuridae, Tarsiidae, Aotidae, Callithrichidae, Saimiriidae, Cebidae, Atelidae, Pitheciidae, Colobidae, Presbytidae, Cercopithecidae, Papionidae, Hylobatidae, and Hominidae))
4) Chiroptera (Bats (contains 20 extant families: Pteropodidae, Rhinopomatidae, Craseonycteridae, Emballonuridae, Rhinolophidae, Hipposideridae, Nycteridae, Megadermatidae, Verspertilionidae, Molossidae, Antrozoidae, Natalidae, Myzopodidae, Thyropteridae, Furipteridae, Mystacinidae, Mormoopidae, Phyllostomidae, Noctilionidae, and Desmodontidae))
5) Cetacea (Whales (contains 14 families: Eschrichtiidae, Cetotheriidae, Balaenidae, Eubalaenidae, Balaenopteridae, Ziphiidae, Kogiidae, Physeteridae, Orcinidae, Monodontidae, Phocoenidae, Delphinidae, Iniidae, and Platanistidae))
6) Diprotodontia (contains 12 extant families: Vombatidae, Phascolarctidae, Burramyidae, Phalangeridae, Tarsipedidae, Acrobatidae, Pseudocheiridae, Petauridae, Hypsiprymnodontidae, Potoroidae, Sthenuridae, and Macropodidae))
7) Artiodactyla (Even-Toed Hoofed Mammals (contains 11 extant families: Tragulidae, Hydropotidae, Moschidae, Antilocapridae, Giraffidae, Cervidae, Bovidae, Camelidae, Tayassuidae, Suidae, and Hippopotamidae))
8) Soricomorpha (Shrews, Moles, Desmans, and Solenodons (contains 4 extant families: Solenodontidae, Soricidae, Talpidae, and Desmanidae))
9) Pilosa (Sloths and Anteaters (contains 4 extant families: Cyclopedidae, Myrmecophagidae, Choloepodidae, and Bradypodidae))
10) Afrosoricida (Tenrecs, Potamoes, and Kruipmols (contains 3 families: Chrysochloridae, Potamogalidae, and Tenrecidae))
11) Perissodactyla (Odd-Toed Hoofed Mammals (contains 3 families: Equidae, Rhinocerotidae, and Tapiridae))
12) Lagomorpha (Lagomorphs (contains 2 families: Ochotonidae and Leporidae))
13) Dasyuromorphia (Carnivorous Marsupials (contains 2 families: Myrmecobiidae and Dasyuridae))
14) Erinaceomorpha (Hedgehogs and Gymnures (contains 2 families: Echinosoricidae and Erinaceidae))
15) Peramelemorphia (Bandicoots and Bilby (contains 2 families: Macrotidae and Peramelidae))
16) Scandentia (Banxrings (contains 2 families: Ptilocercidae and Tupaiidae))
17) Sirenia (Sirenians (contains 2 families: Trichechidae and Dugongidae))
18) Didelphimorphia (Opossums (contains 1 family: Didelphidae))
19) Cingulata (Armadillos and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Dasypodidae))
20) Macroscelidea (Sengis and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Macroscelididae))
21) Pholidota (Pangolins (contains 1 family: Manidae))
22) Proboscidea (Elephants and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Elephantidae))
23) Hyracoidea (Hyraxes (contains 1 family: Procaviidae))
24) Paucituberculata (Shrew Opossums (contains 1 family: Caenolestidae))
25) Tachyglossa (Echidnas and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Tachyglossidae))
26) Dermoptera (Colugos and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Cynocephalidae))
27) Notoryctemorphia (Marsupial Moles (contains 1 family: Notoryctidae))
28) Tubulidentata (Aardvark and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Orycteropodidae))
29) Microbiotheria (Colocolo and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Microbiotheriidae))
30) Platypoda (Platypus and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Ornithorhynchidae))
@@indyreno2933 I only saw this just now and that has nothing to do with carnivorans
@Coelacanth_yes, here's the list of all the mammalian orders from having the most to fewest number of extant families:
1) Rodentia (Rodents (contains 38 extant families: Diatomyidae, Ctenodactylidae, Petromuridae, Thryonomyidae, Bathyergidae, Hystricidae, Octodontidae, Echimyidae, Abrocomidae, Chinchillidae, Erethizontidae, Ctenomyidae, Capromyidae, Myocastoridae, Dinomyidae, Caviidae, Aplodontiidae, Gliridae, Zenkerellidae, Anomaluridae, Pedetidae, Sciuridae, Castoridae, Geomyidae, Heteromyidae, Platacanthomyidae, Spalacidae, Dipodidae, Calomyscidae, Cricetidae, Zapodidae, Sigmodontidae, Muridae, Gerbillidae, Cricetomyidae, and Nesomyidae))
2) Carnivora (Carnivorans (contains 25 extant families: Canidae, Ursidae, Ailuropodidae, Phocidae, Cystophoridae, Otariidae, Odobenidae, Mephitidae, Procyonidae, Ailuridae, Nasuidae, Melidae, Mustelidae, Lutridae, Ictonychidae, Felidae, Protelidae, Hyaenidae, Nandiniidae, Prionodontidae, Poianidae, Genettidae, Viverridae, Herpestidae, and Eupleridae))
3) Primata (Primates (contains 21 extant families: Lorisidae, Galagidae, Phaneridae, Lepilemuridae, Cheirogaleidae, Daubentoniidae, Indriidae, Lemuridae, Tarsiidae, Aotidae, Callithrichidae, Saimiriidae, Cebidae, Atelidae, Pitheciidae, Colobidae, Presbytidae, Cercopithecidae, Papionidae, Hylobatidae, and Hominidae))
4) Chiroptera (Bats (contains 20 extant families: Pteropodidae, Rhinopomatidae, Craseonycteridae, Emballonuridae, Rhinolophidae, Hipposideridae, Nycteridae, Megadermatidae, Verspertilionidae, Molossidae, Antrozoidae, Natalidae, Myzopodidae, Thyropteridae, Furipteridae, Mystacinidae, Mormoopidae, Phyllostomidae, Noctilionidae, and Desmodontidae))
5) Cetacea (Whales (contains 14 families: Eschrichtiidae, Cetotheriidae, Balaenidae, Eubalaenidae, Balaenopteridae, Ziphiidae, Kogiidae, Physeteridae, Orcinidae, Monodontidae, Phocoenidae, Delphinidae, Iniidae, and Platanistidae))
6) Diprotodontia (contains 12 extant families: Vombatidae, Phascolarctidae, Burramyidae, Phalangeridae, Tarsipedidae, Acrobatidae, Pseudocheiridae, Petauridae, Hypsiprymnodontidae, Potoroidae, Sthenuridae, and Macropodidae))
7) Artiodactyla (Even-Toed Hoofed Mammals (contains 11 extant families: Tragulidae, Hydropotidae, Moschidae, Antilocapridae, Giraffidae, Cervidae, Bovidae, Camelidae, Tayassuidae, Suidae, and Hippopotamidae))
8) Soricomorpha (Shrews, Moles, Desmans, and Solenodons (contains 4 extant families: Solenodontidae, Soricidae, Talpidae, and Desmanidae))
9) Pilosa (Sloths and Anteaters (contains 4 extant families: Cyclopedidae, Myrmecophagidae, Choloepodidae, and Bradypodidae))
10) Afrosoricida (Tenrecs, Otter Shrews, and Golden Moles (contains 3 families: Chrysochloridae, Potamogalidae, and Tenrecidae))
11) Perissodactyla (Odd-Toed Hoofed Mammals (contains 3 families: Equidae, Rhinocerotidae, and Tapiridae))
12) Lagomorpha (Lagomorphs (contains 2 families: Ochotonidae and Leporidae))
13) Dasyuromorphia (Carnivorous Marsupials (contains 2 families: Myrmecobiidae and Dasyuridae))
14) Erinaceomorpha (Hedgehogs and Gymnures (contains 2 families: Echinosoricidae and Erinaceidae))
15) Peramelemorphia (Bilby and Bandicoots (contains 2 families: Macrotidae and Peramelidae))
16) Scandentia (Treeshrews (contains 2 families: Ptilocercidae and Tupaiidae))
17) Sirenia (Sirenians (contains 2 families: Trichechidae and Dugongidae))
18) Didelphimorphia (Opossums (contains 1 family: Didelphidae))
19) Cingulata (Armadillos and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Dasypodidae))
20) Macroscelidea (Elephant Shrews (contains 1 family: Macroscelididae))
21) Pholidota (Pangolins (contains 1 family: Manidae))
22) Proboscidea (Elephants and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Elephantidae))
23) Hyracoidea (Hyraxes (contains 1 family: Procaviidae))
24) Paucituberculata (Shrew Opossums (contains 1 family: Caenolestidae))
25) Tachyglossa (Echidnas and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Tachyglossidae))
26) Dermoptera (Colugos and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Cynocephalidae))
27) Notoryctemorphia (Marsupial Moles (contains 1 family: Notoryctidae))
28) Tubulidentata (Aardvark and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Orycteropodidae))
29) Microbiotheria (Colocolo and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Microbiotheriidae))
30) Platypoda (Platypus and Fossil Relatives (contains 1 family: Ornithorhynchidae))
It looks like, therefore it is.
The 'science' of today's wold...
0:52 Had no clue taxonomists and paleontologists were 300 pound redditors. Or there are redditors just making shit up. Also, morphology doesn't ALWAYS mean things are related.
That ardwolf is looking really majestic
Get mad I want it😅😂
Please upload more you and Moth Light Media really running the palaeontology game in these UA-cam streets ! 🤌🏾💯
I wouldn't call the Aardwolf a hyena at all but maybe for a different reason. I think those common names should define the animal not for a scientist but for a normal person and I don't think anyone would call that a hyena. It's like calling a wolf and a fox or a jackal the same name, one is clearly dangerous and the others are not.
I'm totally against saying "they are in Hyenidae so they are all hyenas" because that's not how common names should work, but hey if you really look at them and think "HYENA" that's a good reason, I totally respect it.
So I assume you wouldn't call a prairie dog a rodent because it has "dog" in its name, or a flying fox a bat because it would confuse laypeople too lazy to do a 5-minute Google search, to pander to the ignorant? Like, what sort of asinine logic is that. Common names don't matter, only the animal's phylogeny does. The former is arbitrary and made by people who have no clue what they are talking about, while the latter is rooted in verifiable scientific facts.
Carnivorans have the second largest number of extant families that any mammalian order is divided into, with carnivorans being split into twenty-five extant families: Canidae (Dogs), Ursidae (Bears), Ailuropodidae (Giant Panda), Phocidae (Seals), Cystophoridae (Hooded Seal and Elephant Seals), Otariidae (Sea Lions and Fur Seals), Odobenidae (Walrus), Mephitidae (Skunks and Stink Badgers), Procyonidae (Raccoons and Bassarisks), Ailuridae (Red Panda), Nasuidae (Coatis, Kinkajou, Olingos, and Olinguito), Melidae (Badgers), Mustelidae (Weasels, Ferrets, and Minks), Lutridae (Otters), Ictonychidae (Zorillas, Muishund, Shulang, Huro, Grisons, Wolverine, Tayra, and Martens), Felidae (Cats), Protelidae (Aardwolf), Hyaenidae (Hyenas), Nandiniidae (Feripaka), Prionodontidae (Linsangs), Poianidae (Oyans), Genettidae (Genets), Viverridae (Civets), Herpestidae (Mongooses), and Eupleridae (Malagasy Carnivorans).
Aardwolves used to be Protelidae, but now they are classified in Hyaenidae, due to DNA analysis. The giant panda is in Ursidae, also due to DNA analysis. Badgers, wolverines, and otters are in Mustelidae. Racoons, coatis, and olingos are in Procyonidae. Taxonomy has changed a lot in recent years because we can sequence genomes more easily.
@drosophilamelanogaster9488, hyenas are more closely related to the extinct percrocutids than they are to the aardwolf, therefore, the aardwolf is the sole living member of the family Protelidae, aardwolves are not hyenas, but they are still hyaenoids, which are members of the superfamily Hyaenoidea, within Hyaenoidea, Protelidae is more derived than another extinct family called Lophocyonidae, but is basal to the Percrocutidae + Hyaenidae split, in fact, the giant panda, walrus, red panda, aardwolf, and feripaka are the only five carnivoran species to the sole extant members of their own families, with the giant panda being the sole extant member of the family Ailuropodidae, the walrus being the sole extant member of the family Odobenidae, the red panda being the sole extant member of the family Ailuridae, the aardwolf being the sole extant member of the family Protelidae, and the feripaka being the sole extant member of the family Nandiniidae, all five of these extant families belong to already existing superfamilies with Ailuropodidae being part of Ursoidea, Odobenidae being part of Otarioidea, Ailuridae being part of Procyonoidea, Protelidae being part of Hyaenoidea, and Nandiniidae being part of Viverroidea.
I just showed you three papers that say aardwolves are in Hyaenidae. Did you not know that science gets updated when we get new evidence? You know we can sequence genomes now, right?
Here are the 3 journal articles again:
"The aardwolf (Proteles cristata) is a unique, insectivorous species of the family Hyaenidae"
Westbury, M. V., De Cahsan, B., Dalerum, F., Norén, K., & Hofreiter, M. (2019). Aardwolf population diversity and phylogenetic positioning inferred using complete mitochondrial genomes. African Journal of Wildlife Research, 49(1), 27-33.
And this from a 2021 paper: "During the Miocene, Hyaenidae was a highly diverse family of Carnivora that has since been severely reduced to four species: the bone-cracking spotted, striped, and brown hyenas, and the specialized insectivorous aardwolf."
Westbury, M. V., Le Duc, D., Duchêne, D. A., Krishnan, A., Prost, S., Rutschmann, S., ... & Hofreiter, M. (2021). Ecological specialization and evolutionary reticulation in extant hyaenidae. Molecular biology and evolution, 38(9), 3884-3897.
And this one: "The four extant species of hyenas (Hyaenidae; Carnivora) form a morphologically and ecologically heterogeneous group of feliform carnivorans that are remnants of a formerly diverse group of mammalian predators. They include the aardwolf (Proteles cristatus), a termite-feeding specialist, and three species with a craniodental morphology adapted to cracking the bones of prey and/or carcasses, the spotted hyena (Crocuta crocuta), brown hyena (Parahyaena brunnea), and striped hyena (Hyaena hyaena)."
Koepfli, K. P., Jenks, S. M., Eizirik, E., Zahirpour, T., Van Valkenburgh, B., & Wayne, R. K. (2006). Molecular systematics of the Hyaenidae: relationships of a relictual lineage resolved by a molecular supermatrix. Molecular phylogenetics and evolution, 38(3), 603-620.@@indyreno2933
@sciencenerd7639, hyenas are more closely related to the extinct percrocutids than they are to the aardwolf, therefore, the aardwolf is the sole living member of the family Protelidae, aardwolves are not hyenas, but they are still hyaenoids, which are members of the superfamily Hyaenoidea, within Hyaenoidea, Protelidae is more derived than another extinct family called Lophocyonidae, but is basal to the Percrocutidae + Hyaenidae split, in fact, the giant panda, walrus, red panda, aardwolf, and feripaka are the only five carnivoran species to the sole extant members of their own families, with the giant panda being the sole extant member of the family Ailuropodidae, the walrus being the sole extant member of the family Odobenidae, the red panda being the sole extant member of the family Ailuridae, the aardwolf being the sole extant member of the family Protelidae, and the feripaka being the sole extant member of the family Nandiniidae, all five of these extant families belong to already existing superfamilies with Ailuropodidae being part of Ursoidea, Odobenidae being part of Otarioidea, Ailuridae being part of Procyonoidea, Protelidae being part of Hyaenoidea, and Nandiniidae being part of Viverroidea.
Citation needed. Your information looks out of date. Did you know that we have more DNA evidence available than we did back in the 1990s? I am very happy to revise my opinion when you provide a citation for a peer reviewed journal article written within the last fifteen years which supports your claim. I looked but could not find any. @@indyreno2933
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Ardwolves are not hyenas they are not called hyenas
Aardwolf (note the correct spelling) are in the family Hyaenidae. Animals have common names and also belong to a family. If the family name translates to, or is named after an animal, then all members of that family may be referred to by that name. As such, aardwolves are hyenas in regard to them being members of the hyena family.
Would you protest lions are not cats? Because that is exactly the same reasoning; lion is the common name, but they are cats in regard to the family name.
@@Dr.Ian-Plect ardwolves are hyenas and nit just by name baka boy
@@Dr.Ian-Plect STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
@@bluepuppystudios3617 aardwolves are hyenas whether you like it or not.
After that breakdown, thanks to a random redditor (who probably doesn't understand much phylogeny), all I have to say is: are you OK, brother?
It’s pronounced neesh not nich - Reddit user
Everyone loves the big cats of Africa (myself included), but I've always felt hyenas never got the credit they rightly deserve as fascinating predators with complex social hierarchies and unique biology (e.g., the female spotted hyena gives birth through a pseudopenis, and the offspring are born with their eyes open). Always a treat to see a video giving them some love!
I could have lived my life without remembering that hyena burr fact you RUINED ME
@@Distix-uz8qr You're welcome.
@marshalmarrs3269 *That's a LIE!! Did you know the mom lats the older cubs kill and eat the weaker, younger cubs?!* 😖😖
Thats why they aren't peak predators
Didn't even know there was some debate about placement of aardwolf
Actually, there isn't. Just ignoramuses not understanding phylogeny.
Great to be welcomed back with a great video. Thanks.
Good to see you back
Hope life is treating you well
Binge-watched your videos several months ago
Keep up the good work
Thank you for the aardwolf baby picture, really needed that today.
Will you make evolition of other dinosaur groups like ceratopsians abelisaurids ankylosauridae stegosauridae ornithopod
YES! Aardwolf are hyenas!!!
Aardwolves are not hyenas.
@@indyreno2933 yes they are, cope
@TheFoshaMan, no they're not, the aardwolf is the only extant member of the family Protelidae.
@@indyreno2933 Tripe again, Reno. Aardwolves are hyenas.
@@indyreno2933 "Aardwolves are not hyenas."
Wow...who could argue with such a rock solid argument.
Thanks for the video cheers from Brazil
No mention of Dinocrocuta? Percrocutidae is no longer considered valid so those absolute units were true hyenas
Actually, Percrocutidae is valid.
@@indyreno2933 Various recent studies show it isn't
@carlosalbuquerque22, Percrocutidae is actually valid, there are no recent studies showing that it isn't, Percrocutidae in fact still belongs to the superfamily Hyaenoidea.
@@indyreno2933 See Wuang 2022 among others
@@indyreno2933 Wrong again Reno, as usual.
Percrocutidae;
- are not hyenas
- are not in Hyaenidae
- are not the superfamily 'Hyaenoidea', which is you yet again inventing your own taxonomic terms. They are the superfamily Herpestoidea
Thanks!
The word is "haenids". If you called them that, you wouldn't get yourself all tied up in knots.
Like you might say gelid or hominid. It makes your job easier.
You popped off like never before
And it was incredible.
im subbed on my other account, watched most of your content so far. i'm just starting this video, but i have a request..zodiacal toes, where and when did they evolve? Not looking for an overall bird video, just the parrots and them toes. Dont know what it is about them, but having 2 finger and 2 thumbs is kinda cool
Do you mean zygodactyl toes?
Controversy? The aardwolf is part of the Hyaenidae family, it is a full-blooded hyena. That's like saying that the giant panda isn't a bear because it's part of a separate subfamily from the other extant ursids, or that panthers (tigers, lions, leopards, jaguars) aren't true cats because they are also in a separate subfamily from the felines (cougars, lynxes, cheetahs, housecats, etc.).
Watch out for an ignoramus called Indy Reno spewing taxonomic nonsense in response to your comment.
@@Dr.Ian-Plect Lanval de Lai is even worse, essentially saying that we shouldn't call it a hyena cuz its common name (aardwolf) will confuse clueless laymen, and the animal "doesn't look like a hyena".
@@daliborjovanovic510 Yep, the typical pathetic ignorance encountered here.
@@Dr.Ian-Plect Considering his morbid obsession with taxonomic splitting, I asked him what his views are on the taxonomy of _Homo sapiens_ . Still waiting for a response.
@@samrizzardi2213 He outright makes things up too.
What about the Dinocrocuta?
gotta love them yeeny babies
Wasn't the Dinocrocuta Gigantea recently categorised as a true hyena? That hyena was even bigger than lions and preyed on rhinos.
Not widely accepted.
wth is your pfp
Once you get really famous I’ll be able to say I’ve been here since 80k :D You’re funny, dude! Plus your videos are really interesting! Idk if I like the fact that hyenas aren’t dogs (I knew this info but I like to repress it), but that’s on biology. Subbed!
I like hyenes
one of my favorite groups of animals, spotted being my favorite among them, Aardwolves 2nd.
first
Well that’s an unnecessary comment
@@Denneth_D. much like yours fr
had to search for why the Aardwolf is also called a Civet Hyena, and I wish I hadn't googled that...
I would love to see you make a video on the evolution of pigs or anteaters
Extra Nice
Stop lying they are dogs all cats look similar you not gonna tell me something that look like a dog is more cat like
Continue in ignorance.
Dude, it's called CONVERGENT EVOLUTION. Try educating yourself on the matter before running your mouth like a Bible thumper trying to deny reality based facts XD
learn what convergent evolution is
they are feliformia, but are as closely related to your house cat as a your dog is to a seal.