Oldshovel is the seth of classic MTB, or Seth is the oldshovel of ultra modern stuff. Anyways, we we're lucky we can see quality content from people like them.
Doctor: So you have been resting and not putting to much pressure on your injury? SETH: Yeah sitting on the couch. Doctor: Lets look at your channel shall we?
My grandad made a wooden, working drivetrain with wooden links, chainring and everything. It wasn't on a bike, just some weird contraption and it was only a fixed singlespeed. It was insane!
SRAM’s older masterlinks were awful though, especially 8 and 9 speed. Huge leap in 11 speed and 12 speed drivetrain components. I guess the price went up that much as well.
I bought a new rim for may bike that had a smaller (sprocket?) than the old one, and I needed to make the chain shorter, so I took 2 links off and riveted the chain with a nail, (yes a NAIL) and after 5 years is holding up fine, who needs master links anyway right?
Park tool: we makes the most durable tools in the world. Seth: "rips the handle of the master link remover tool handle" Get well soon seth and rips more bikes and tools
He was using the tool wrong though, there's a masterlink opening tool and a masterlink closing tool, and seth was trying to use the opening tool backwards to close a link. It's not surprising it slipped.
Hey Seth! During quarantine you have brought joy and entertainment, and have even inspired me and my friends to build tons of jumps and trails! Thanks man
I have once disassemble whole chain. The parts I have gain for that are very useful, washers and two types of plates. The plates are very useful when you have to repair some broken big plastic parts, firstly you heat up the plat to red hot, then wait to cool down then put that plate across the broken part boundry, then you heat up some iron rod and use it for melt in plate into the plastic. You use them ass many as you nedd depending on the lenght of broken boundry. Burning plates is neccesery for burning of all oil and greasses and secondly to form from those burn of oils and greasses a porous carbon layer. Those porous layer helps alot plstic to bound into the metal. The good practice is to melt in entirely plate into the plastic and smear plastic on top of plate to prevent rust.
On my second hand bike I put on (what I thought was) a second master link when the chain broke, came back to look at it later and there were 3 others already on it, worked fine so didn’t change it for a while
Years ago at a bike shop I worked at, the mechanic made a chain from the “drops”, or ends left over when fitting a new chain. Pieces of chains from $8 to $80. Ran it on his mountain bike for a year. There was no noticeable wear difference in any section.
Would be weird if there was more wear on the cheaper parts. As long as the chain is lubed evenly a couple times a year it doesn't get much wear in general.
When I was younger I used to repair the bikes of all my friends. I didn't have any special tools. One of the most common things I needed to fix was chains. I used a flathead screwdriver, a hammer, and a pair of vice grips to repair chains. I have taken entire chains apart myself, using this method, so have parts to fix other chains.
3:09 is exactly my reaction every time I have to participate in performing an action that involves steady force without speed and then the item flies away or I hit my hand.
I can't believe you are still testing that pedal! What a dedication to good content and thorough testing! I'm looking forward to that video! This was a great video as well!
I've been running two different sizes of spokes on the same wheel of my ebike for a few months now, it acts almost as good as a regular wheel, just harder to keep it perfectly centered. The two sets of spokes are ten or twenty milimeters different from each other. I never knew it would last this long without breaking.
It wouldn't break if its perfectly built 😉 I've once done 6 different lengths of spokes on a pair of wheels, 258, 265, 270, 275, 289, 295mm 😉 the reason for using that 6 type of spoke is; i built it just for experimental reasons.. on a 36 holes rim and 32 holes hub, that's why i needed those different length of spokes.. no damage or breaking for more than 3 years of bike to work & weekend riding.. It took me more than a day to build those wheels 😊
My LBS stated power links are on back order. Lol🤣😂😅 And yes I spotted the link @6:17-6:19🥸. Thanks for sharing the most expensive “chain” video in the world I think. Great video as always & Get well!
When ot started it was okay. By the third video it was a bit much... Now I feel if the video doesn't start with that sentence my world will be shook up. Even my little daughter knows the words by now.
I need to see more of that gorgeous ST in the driveway. I have a Atlas blue ST that I picked up in September. Love the ST!! Also the bike stuff is kinda cool....
When I first saw masterlinks, I thought the whole chain was made up of masterlinks. I had no idea about that little piece can save alot of time. Well thanku ! For answering a 2 year old question of mine. 😂
Your channel is starting to remind me of a guy known in the homebrewing community, Brulosophy. He tests all the processes and methods that should result in unsatisfactory beer...only to find out that almost none of them are true (at a homebrew scale at least). Your hardtail is basically a test bed for all the things that mountainbikers typically frown upon...yet still get the job done.
I know you spot that upside down link!
one of them is a little bit different but kinda the same?!?...lol. got one upside down😎
does that matter for the function of the link, i assume it does.
You are giving me ideas end I may destroy my bike with my ideas
@@sanderbraal9169 it does matter, yes
I have wondered what would happen if you made a chain like this, so cool, thanks
5:33 "Is there any reason why I couldn't go out for a ride like this?"
*Definitely hits the car*
i was looking for this comment
@@joaquin6421 same
@@blakewildgoose5450 saem
I was about to comment this😂
Found the comments i was looking for 😂😂😂
Everyone: Oil Slick is dead.
Seth: Hold my chain tool...
What are you talkin bout oil slick aint dead
Bro in bmx there’s still whole oil slick frames
We want A 104th battle pack you’re the chode with an all oil slick paint bike. Aren’t you
Wash your filthy mouth son. It ain't dead.
Oil slick isn't dead. It just hasn't *acended* to iridencient!
Someone online: "why can't I find one master link anywhere online today?"
Seth bought them all.
You can buy 1000 on aliexpress in ome but this guy buys 100 individual packaged just to be cool.
@@GlobalDesignHD Or a few million if you go through Alibaba wholesale.
@@GlobalDesignHD well he doesnt have 2 months to spare he probably 2 day shipped them from amazon or smth.
@@WestCoastMountainBiker Especially, XX1 user....
Your chain cost more than my bike.
Lmao im just 20$ under
Lol
@RollinRat YBN makes titanium chains that are a lot more than 100, and then you might be able to get a ceramicspeed coating
ive got like 200 on it but mine is a specialized mtb
Nobody cares.
6:17 got at least 1 link upside down, which will cause shifting issues at some point during engagement. Looks cool!
Was wondering about that as well
Yeah, good thing KMC master links can go both ways up, I got scared I put mine back the wrong way 😅
This cracks me up
good evening
You should do a restomod with taya 8s masterlinks
Oldshovel in the house!! if you love this channel go and check out oldshovel everyone!
@@Blackaudix oldshovel is great!! I love Spindatt as well!
Oldshovel is the seth of classic MTB, or Seth is the oldshovel of ultra modern stuff. Anyways, we we're lucky we can see quality content from people like them.
6:17 is ticking me off! Seth you put on a master link backwards!!! All the way to the right of the frame
I caught that as well and he shows it again at 7:38
was just about to comment the same :) the arrow pointing the wrong way on the link
Really easy to see at 7:35.
Yeah tru. Didn’t go that far in the vid
That’s just so he can the Master Master Link quicker...just kidding of course 😂
Doctor: So you have been resting and not putting to much pressure on your injury?
SETH: Yeah sitting on the couch.
Doctor: Lets look at your channel shall we?
I don't know what this is but I'm interested and learnding
Out of all possible UA-camrs I didn't expect to see you here
you gunna make a trap base out of nothing but masterlinks ?
Lol hi
Gotta learnd!
I'd watch you mountain bike through a trap base.
How bored were you in 2020?
Seth: "I made an entire chain out of quick links."
"So I'm gonna snap that together"
The plyers explode
That's right, that's what happened. We saw it in the video.
Stfu
@@wuzihuzi Omg bro I was totally there!!1
It bugged me that one or more of the links are in the incorrect orientation
And it didn't bug you that half the chain was made out of master links!? :)
Its upside down so you can find the masterlink for taking it apart.
@@kudosbudo bruh
@@kudosbudo bruh
@@kudosbudo bruh
6:17 i demand you to fix that masterlink thats the wrong way
*WE demand
**ALL demand
My grandad made a wooden, working drivetrain with wooden links, chainring and everything. It wasn't on a bike, just some weird contraption and it was only a fixed singlespeed. It was insane!
That's sick.
6:18 upside down link sent me crazy!!
SRAM did this in the early 00's as a demo when their Powerlinks were new.
Forbidden comment
Shhh 🤫
But not Shimano.
AHP! lalla shh
SRAM’s older masterlinks were awful though, especially 8 and 9 speed. Huge leap in 11 speed and 12 speed drivetrain components. I guess the price went up that much as well.
Imagine disassembling your chain every time you're cleaning/lubing it...
Would make for a VERY clean chain
You mean y'all don't do that? 🤔
@@TrailFeatures 😂😂😂
I wish I had so much time...
my chain is waxed. when it starts to get noisy i change it. when all 3 chains are used they get cleaned with boiling water and rewaxed.
"Every chain has a master link"
Bmx guys: *sweating profusely*
I bought a new rim for may bike that had a smaller (sprocket?) than the old one, and I needed to make the chain shorter, so I took 2 links off and riveted the chain with a nail, (yes a NAIL) and after 5 years is holding up fine, who needs master links anyway right?
Bmx guys are using halflink chains for almost 20 years now, a masterlink won't fit on a halflink chain
@@73Xtian true da
@@truefoxtrot2884 that's how engineering skill should be used!
@@73Xtian yea i got a "master pin" on my shadow interlock v2. its just a pin with no grooves for the chain breaker.
“I’m gonna snap that together” snaps it apart 🤣🤣🤣
Park tool: we makes the most durable tools in the world.
Seth: "rips the handle of the master link remover tool handle"
Get well soon seth and rips more bikes and tools
The tool didn't break though 👍
@@schwuzi that should NOT have happend espacially at that price
He was using the tool wrong though, there's a masterlink opening tool and a masterlink closing tool, and seth was trying to use the opening tool backwards to close a link. It's not surprising it slipped.
@@timb171 Did he? Park Tool MLP-1.2 Master Link Pliers description: "Then squeeze the handles to open or pull the handles to close the link."
Seth: Today we will be doing something different but kinda the same!
Me: The similarity with every video is that it’s something crazy!
Stfu with the me comments
My brain: "This is the stupidest project I've ever seen"
Also my brain: "I need it"
thnx man! this was indeed one of the main questions that keeped me busy at night.. now i can sleep again!
I saw the person ask this question on his Instagram story. So glad to see him really getting involved with his fanbase!
Hey Seth! During quarantine you have brought joy and entertainment, and have even inspired me and my friends to build tons of jumps and trails! Thanks man
Seth: is there any reason I could not go on a ride like this.
Also Seth: almost crashes into the SUV
😂😂 I didn't notice it. wonder if he had really smashed the SUV, cuz there's a cut on the most interesting moment))
3:08 This can potentially become a meme
So much yes !
Hell yes
YES!
Alternate title: how to flex on your friends the have $90 sram XX1 chains
When the grip slips of that chain tool, Seth had the same expression as when the tyre blew up.
4:29 - Rare footage of Seth as an edgy teenager
The things seth does to entertain us. Bless you brother.
@6:17 you need to flip that link around or your shifting will skip.
I have once disassemble whole chain. The parts I have gain for that are very useful, washers and two types of plates. The plates are very useful when you have to repair some broken big plastic parts, firstly you heat up the plat to red hot, then wait to cool down then put that plate across the broken part boundry, then you heat up some iron rod and use it for melt in plate into the plastic. You use them ass many as you nedd depending on the lenght of broken boundry.
Burning plates is neccesery for burning of all oil and greasses and secondly to form from those burn of oils and greasses a porous carbon layer. Those porous layer helps alot plstic to bound into the metal. The good practice is to melt in entirely plate into the plastic and smear plastic on top of plate to prevent rust.
On my second hand bike I put on (what I thought was) a second master link when the chain broke, came back to look at it later and there were 3 others already on it, worked fine so didn’t change it for a while
so many mechanics know that specific "ow!" when you got stabbed by the little metal left behinds.
"We're all bored and it's my job to entertain you."
Yes
5:46 use your dropper post for an easier dismount
I wondered years ago if it was possible to make a chain out of master links, now I know it is possible and AWESOME! Too funny! Thanks Seth.
This is awesome
But who else caught the one master link that was upside down OCD for the win lmao..
seth: makes a video about how to cope with MTB injuries and one of the steps was to clean your bike,
Also Seth: 4:35
Ngl ive always wanted to try this but my bank account wouldnt let me 🤣
Think of the environment as well dude!
Years ago at a bike shop I worked at, the mechanic made a chain from the “drops”, or ends left over when fitting a new chain. Pieces of chains from $8 to $80. Ran it on his mountain bike for a year. There was no noticeable wear difference in any section.
Would be weird if there was more wear on the cheaper parts. As long as the chain is lubed evenly a couple times a year it doesn't get much wear in general.
When I was younger I used to repair the bikes of all my friends. I didn't have any special tools. One of the most common things I needed to fix was chains. I used a flathead screwdriver, a hammer, and a pair of vice grips to repair chains. I have taken entire chains apart myself, using this method, so have parts to fix other chains.
"Condor - all power lock" - you just won youtube for the evening!
awesome video 😎❤️
Ur vids are no less awesome
Your right
3:09 is exactly my reaction every time I have to participate in performing an action that involves steady force without speed and then the item flies away or I hit my hand.
I can't believe you are still testing that pedal! What a dedication to good content and thorough testing! I'm looking forward to that video! This was a great video as well!
Dad showed me how to change a chain at 6 years old, and this was this first question I asked him. Thanks Seth!
Me this morning: I need to buy a master link.
Seth: I am building a chain out of master links😂.
Oh no we’re out!
Seths face at 3:09 made me laugh so hard. His reaction is priceless.
5:33 *Hits the car* CUT!!
If you wanna change the chain you don't have to search for the master link! Big advantage!!!
@4:55 "I can't find the masterlink!" the first serious problem is really funny :))
Really want see how this holds up long term. Maybe it will last longer than a normal chain 🤔
6:16, 7:14 and 7:33 That one master link that is backwards gives me OCD
I’m in the hospital now with a possibly broken collarbone this is just what I needed Seth💪🏼👍🏼
Thank you so much for this video! I have actually already asked myself if this could work! And then I found your video about it.
🎉
3:00 and that little scene was the funniest thing I have ever seen XD. just the pure confusion in Seth's face when the tool breaks, just perfect.
6:17 that one link is bugging me its backwards
6:17 that link is backwards...
:(
It is the master master link
Seth: Today we are going to do something a little different but kinda to same
Me: Yeah that’s about right
A moment of respect for the Park Tool chain breaker. That thing took a beating, taking what... 120 links apart? 2 pins per link? Bravo.
Was wondering how this is going to work and then Seth starts disassembling every link in the original chain. What dedication!
Seth’s favorite part of his videos is saying: “today we’re doing something different, but also the same”
kinda*
1:38 : the look of "what am i doing with my life?"
100% accurate
We need to hear full conversation 6:40
I've been running two different sizes of spokes on the same wheel of my ebike for a few months now, it acts almost as good as a regular wheel, just harder to keep it perfectly centered. The two sets of spokes are ten or twenty milimeters different from each other. I never knew it would last this long without breaking.
It wouldn't break if its perfectly built 😉
I've once done 6 different lengths of spokes on a pair of wheels,
258, 265, 270, 275, 289, 295mm 😉 the reason for using that 6 type of spoke is; i built it just for experimental reasons.. on a 36 holes rim and 32 holes hub, that's why i needed those different length of spokes.. no damage or breaking for more than 3 years of bike to work & weekend riding.. It took me more than a day to build those wheels 😊
That’s some bike bling right there!
How to flex on plebs who run 100 dollar chains:
6:17 one master link is upside down
I wanna ask. How often do you have to replace a master chain link? I'm new to the cycling scene.
never unless you open and close it often
I've been watching him for 3 years but i don't have a bike lmao
You should replace your master link after you use it 4 to 5 times
Never unless you open the link
@@thomashardbattle4287 I mean if you want to wash your chain and want to take it off for extensive washing
I appreciate you taking safety seriously. Simply test riding it around your driveway and you still wore your helmet.
My LBS stated power links are on back order. Lol🤣😂😅 And yes I spotted the link @6:17-6:19🥸. Thanks for sharing the most expensive “chain” video in the world I think. Great video as always & Get well!
"TODAY WERE DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT KINDA THE SAME" never gets old😏
Was old before it was middle aged
This needs to be a merch shirt
Disagree
It already is a shirt and he’s wearing it in the video
When ot started it was okay. By the third video it was a bit much... Now I feel if the video doesn't start with that sentence my world will be shook up. Even my little daughter knows the words by now.
@6:25 WHY IS A LINK UPSIDE DOWN.
RIGHT!? I thought no one was gonna comment on that!
It's technically @ 6:17 and then again at 7:38
Everyone: first
The people who care:
you just did it though...
True
I just cant explain the feeling of coming home from school and seeing a BP notification. It’s great!
I did this with KMC Z7 reusable links about 2015 & it gave a better result & improved operation compared to the links used in this video clip .
Everyone: oil slick is dead
Secretly Everyone: Loves oil slick
You know you're bored when you have the time to take apart & then rebuild an entire chain out of master links. haha. Noice!!
Grow that beard out, Seth!
I need to see more of that gorgeous ST in the driveway. I have a Atlas blue ST that I picked up in September. Love the ST!! Also the bike stuff is kinda cool....
I must admit I had never ever thought of doing this. Great job!
No one “ “
Seth ”hhhungzivedddddduhhhhhhh what are we doing here?“
how the fuck does a master link cost 14 dollars
it costs like 10 cents to make
Everything and anything that has to do with cycling is Overpriced..... Even them bicycles themselves is just ludicrous
To the 1% reading this god bless, stay safe and have a wonderful day (my dream is to become a famous dirtbike rider) Thanks ❤️❤️
6:15 I notice that there is a master link flipped from the rest 🙃, although it looks great the chain 👍
well, you know what they say; a chain is only a strong as its weakest link
5:33
To be continued
It looks like he was going to hit it
Mountain biking’s like sex: sometimes wearing protection kills some of the fun..
Seth, you give me faith I'll still be riding in my 40's. Thanks man
When I first saw masterlinks, I thought the whole chain was made up of masterlinks. I had no idea about that little piece can save alot of time.
Well thanku ! For answering a 2 year old question of mine. 😂
Watching Seth make the chain is like a Redline Rebuild timelapse (go watch, they're incredible)
thanks for doing this i've been wondering about it for YEARS
Jumanji! You did it and I watched. I hope the next time my chain breaks I'm with you.
Your channel is starting to remind me of a guy known in the homebrewing community, Brulosophy. He tests all the processes and methods that should result in unsatisfactory beer...only to find out that almost none of them are true (at a homebrew scale at least). Your hardtail is basically a test bed for all the things that mountainbikers typically frown upon...yet still get the job done.
I was just thinking about this one and then to my surprise, my favorite MTB youtuber did it ♥️
berm peak express, answering the real questions of Life
I was wondering this since my first mechanic experiences! Thank you seth!